2004 R32 TURBO Cranks but Will Not Start
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- In the shop we have a 2004 R32 Vr6 TURBO that will not start. This is a modified VW R32 with about 180,000 miles. It was towed in for a crank but no start. In this video we diagnose a no start condition and inspect the REAL reason why the car fails to start. Is is mechanical, or electrical? You will have to watch the diagnosis process. #r32 #humblemechanic
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This was a good one! Now for those of you saying "this should be a 1 minute diag" you're not necessarily wrong. However someone is paying good money for a diagnosis. This means if you ONLY did the visual of watching the cams while cranking, you are doing an incomplete diag. There is too much you can miss by not checking codes, not doing a full visual inspection, and other things I did. Doing that resulting in calling a customer back saying "Oh we also found". someone is paying good money for a diagnosis, they should get it. It's also a cover your butt thing too.
A really good one indeed. I just hope there's going to be a part2 of this repair and I also hope the block is ok, at a first glance at least it seems that the guy owning the car is lucky. But we will see (I hope).
I did NOT expect that!
Even though I thought the crank sound was a bit off, I was 100% sure it was something related to steering column electrics, since it quit on him when he turned the wheel...
When i heard the no compression sound I thought that it whould not be a electric problem but to see this yikes 😳 those guide bolts are not really torqued that high and look a bit squetchy m6 if i remember
It wasn’t no compression, because some still had compression. It was weak like the battery was going dead. Plus with mods ans weird electrical it’s always good to cover bases. In real time, 25 min or so diag and inspection. Lol
Forgive my ignorance but this was total coincidence then, freak failure -- it just happened to occur immediately after the transmission work
Hey Charles, I wanted to really thank you. I purchased a GTI 2 years ago from a shady dealer, not knowing all the issues to look out for.. I got screwed.. and i was super broke at the time living on beans... However, I’m super glad you have these knowledgeable videos because you gave me the confidence and courage to tackle all these issues by my damn self! Aside from being able to tear down my engine now, I’m venturing off into fixing other cars on the side for some side money. But what I’m most grateful for is, with my mechanical experience that i’ve learned through you, I scored an Aviation Mechanic position for a major company! Never went to college for anything, never paid a cent for anything. Just pure good ol’ Humble Mechanic. Honestly, thank you.
Oh man thank you so much!!! Means the world
Stay determined King, never stop learning, never stop pushing. 🤙🏽
As soon as I heard it crank, I knew it was bad. Holy crap, that's some carnage!
Yea. A lot of cracking noise.
Lots of part numbers laying in the bottom of the pan 🤣
Comment at 16:56 made me think of SMA haha.
LOL FACTS!
It that not where you write the part numbers down to remember them? Maybe even just punch them in as its a modified VW. LOL
Lol
Well there is your problem lady...😉
As a mechanic myself I really love this stuff. diagnosing and fixing these kind of repairs are very satisfying
Love the video Charles
Diagnosis is the fun part!
Charles performing an autopsy on this thing to figure out where to reinforce his own build 😂😂
As sad as it is for the owner, I love these style of videos. Real life stuff for car enthusiasts and mechanics alike. Can’t wait to see the engine tear down and repair!
As an ex VW trained tech, this is classic repair logic. Love it.
What an excellent video. Well explained and very methodical. I really hope the owner allows you to continue to document the repairs & fixes needed to bring the car back to 100%. Keep producing these excellent videos humble.
A lot of things we dont know
And a lot of things we don t know we don t know ... sum up my relationship 😂😂
I had to put that part on speaker for the whole shop....we're still dying over it!
Hahahha
Soo your assuming that we probably don’t know what we don’t know but we just may know what we don’t know we just forgot
And a lot of things we don't know we don't know that we don't want to know
Web development project managers use the term 'known unknowns and unknown unknowns'
Thanks for the awesome vid, a real treat to tag along for the diagnosis! That R32 looks really nice, I hope you can keep it on the road.
as a C- shade tree mechanic, i really appreciate videos like this over the “unboxing parts” that flood youtube. Thank you.
I really like how methodical you are, so many people will just start pulling stuff off. Incredible work Charles!
Thanks for showing... The sound when you turned it over was the big giveaway.
:)
I hope he has you fix it so we can see the full teardown and fixing. Great vid!!
Patients is key. I like how you didn't just jump to the first thing you thought was wrong. You kept digging deeper and deeper.
patience is the key, patients are at the doctors
Oil pressure gauge thats synced to the turn signals, thats a new one, lol
When the reverse light circuit goes from a short circuit popping the fuse, all my dash gauges and dash lights go out... which is terribly inconvenient when you have a coolant leak combined with an hour drive. Side note, water doesn't smell like coolant. The leak got worse, no gauges, engine slowed til it locked up. Not a VW, just a cautionary tale on gauges, and series of unfortunate circumstances piling up. I was buying the car, my first and last drive. On the plus side, it's been a good parts car for me.
Oem+
Gotta make sure your blinker fluid pressure is correct!
Indicators come on to warn of oil surge in high G situations. A veyron has it as standard 🤥
The oil temp needle on the wrong side of the "stop" pin. OH PLEASE NO...PLEASE MAKE IT STOP ( oh didn't mean the car...)
Awesome video, timing chain guide rail failure was my worst nightmare with my Vr6 .
Luckily it is not super common
Wow, super interesting. I hope you get to do an engine disassembly so we can see the full damage.
Great video of your process. Love the improvements in lighting the new shop allows. Its so professional and stuff. :)
Always like the diag videos. Alot of good info. Gets my mind racing with possibilities
Ouch that sucks, hopefully he decides to fix it.. or.... does Charles get yet another R32 🤔 👀 🤣🤣🤣
I thought it was a fuel problem/fuel gauge problem cause by that crazy wiring. Never knew the engine oil cap trick.
Many engines you can see the cams through the oil filler cap.
You can't do the oil cap trick on all cars. Sometimes you have to pull the timing cover. But there are other ways to check. For instance if it has a cam driven water pump. Just remember that not all tricks work all the time.
Notification squad! You have all of us in the shop guessing, we’re taking bets on what it is!
Hope the customer wants you to do the work because that's amazing content that tbh you don't ever really see in TH-cam any more because people just throw things away now. Great video 😁😁👍👍👍
He did. However I don’t have the bandwidth for it now since we are doing a full big turbo R32 build. Haha
@@HumbleMechanic There are no new video's on this one? Kinda wanted to see what you did or got to do to it. Probably smarter to get a new crate motor for the car since the turbo blew up everything right?
I have an 03 Jetta GLI with the 200hp VR6 and 6 speed trans....completely bone stock....313,000 miles and still going. After 17 years of ownership, I’ve been lucky and haven’t had any weird electrical problems. As an aircraft mechanic I tend to think that leaving stock is best bet for longevity.the stock 04 GTi R32 was a beast. No need to modify imho.
I'd quite enjoy watching you go through this car fixing all its issues.
ME too. But with having to build my own VR6t I don't have the time :(
I just have too say a massive thanks today I had Todo a door lock mechanism in a R32 golf I started by pulling the door card off and drilling out the pop rivets for the speaker then i got to a stand still so I decided to google it and found your video on it and figured out I went completely the wrong way about it so thank you so much
And that was my worst nightmare when I had my R. That car is gone but it’s piece of mind to just do that Timing service. Just had my stage 3 2.7t done and it’s nice to know that will not fail.
Way to deep dive. Charles always happy to see you perform a great inspection. Wish you can work on my tiguan. I need carbon cleaning so bad. Took it to a shop 3 months ago for induction cleaning blew away 300 bucks but still cold start issue. That engine light just gets me so mad!
Could be your intake flap runners
Man that sucks!!!
I had intake manifold replaced and mechanic lied about not having any carbon buildup. He was too lazy to do the entire job and make some cash. I hate leaving the car at someone's who isnt honest. Expensive lesson learned
What a clean car with no oil leaks.
It's unfortunate about the motor breakdown.
Thumbs up for diagnostic
New to your videos as I never owned a vag car but now have a 290 cupra, im loving these videos and this one was great, sorry for the owner but this could have been so so much worse. Watching your r32 with interest now👍🏻👍🏻.
The hazard switch's reaction was the same as most french brands standard factory electrics lol
So as it appears to have backed itself out should threadlock of been used, or a one time use bolt that was used twice?
Just trying to figure what caused it to loosen
Great video buddy love german 1J's
It’s amazing to think that after so many decades, this type of engine(pistons, valves, crankshaft ,etc) is still used!
As soon as you used the scope to see the carnage, I couldn’t help but to quote the flex seal commercial, “thats a lot of damage!” Lol
My first job when I was 18 in 2004 was working at a VW dealership in Seattle. I remember how badass these things were and wanting one so bad. But I liked my built scirocco too.
I always say plastics with metals are never compatible. Amazing video. Thanks for sharing.
Great diag; I especially like that you took the time to test some of the electronics inside the car. Sometimes that can lead to some of the most surprising discoveries; like one time I found a car stereo(stock head unit) that would cut out when you turned the wipers on _and_ off. Which lead to both the battery and the alternator getting tested and both being needing replacement.
Loved the video. It was so satisfying to see the fault being found. I hope the block is not damaged though. I'm holding my fingers crossed 🤞.
yeah me too!
Yikes! Bummer for the owner but this was such a great video - so great to get such detailed content! For the mk4 r32 it seems like there are a lot of resources for non-r mk4s but not much r32 specific nitty gritty tear down videos.. thank you for sharing this!
Had the exact same symptoms when my timing belt broke on my mk4 jetta.
Judging by the foreshadowing it's not going to be a simple fix....
Edit: oh my
Timing is perfect on a dull Thursday!
Always Humble and Great!!!
Perfect? I thought the timing was a catastrophic failure... but the video was great!
4:00
After having my 88 turbocoupe towed home from the side of the highway (many years ago) due to the air intake falling off, I felt that.
The start of this video reminds me of a time I had a TDI Passat in the shop (Dealership in Charlotte)that I was diagnosing. It had an intermittent no start that was becoming a pain to diag or even recreate. After spending some time on it I looked at previous repair done. someone unbolted the steering column for something I can't remember the repair exactly. But Low and behold the CAN wires from the ignition were smashed flat by the steering column when they put those 4 column bolts back in.
Rewired those two wires and it never returned.
You are a GREAT mechanic. One of the best for sure!!
Hey Charles
Yet another great learning experience. Appreciate as well how well you narrate. The we's us's and our's. Thanks again.
Well done mate, you've done well to maintain your curiosity! It's the best possible trait.
we sticked around till the end. thanks for the owner sharing his vw with charles . thanks charles for a great video from you Namibia Africa friend
Was that boroscope footage showing the right time and date? Because it said June 2020. Has the video been lying around for half a year? That would actually be quite sad. We love your content 😊
Cheers for the video. "foreshadowing" oh yes I'm digging that. Again all the best, I'm planning a binge of your channel real soon untill then I'll grab what I can here and there prior to work. OH..... and a Happy New Year to you and yours.
Nice video, for newer techs this is awesome educational content.
Feel bad about the event and the result, not sure if it's the car or the owner that needs therapy more, at this point.
But they both do.
yea it really stinks for the guy
Good job Charles. You may just be a mechanic yet. 😂. Nice job tracking that damage down man. We need more mechs like u in shops. Super skills 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Hahah one day I’ll be a real boy too 😂😂
"Look at how shoe-horned everything is."
Really? My stock '10 CJAA TDI makes that R32 look like an airplane hanger.
You must have never worked on a new beetle.
*laughs in Transporter T4, Sharan 7M*
Yea, the only thing that looked a bit closer than usual was the downpipe, and still...not that bad.
Nice video! I have not seen that type of damage in a while! Last one was a CCTA where the balance shaft gear broke! Nice find👍🏻
A borescope sure is a handy tool! Just started my channel and am a VW enthusiast.
I finally started working at vw and I'm working on vr6 atlas with a foreman and we are fighting the timing issues and now I see how similar these vr6 are.
Nice!!! What’s the timing issue?
@@HumbleMechanic atlas head gasket replacement, other guy put it back together, came back with code p001600 crank cam correlation bank 1 sensor A, it was out of time originally but I got in time with same issue, I replaced the seals that cam adjuster brackets seats on, ran for 30 minutes with no issue, after that same code came back on, I ordered a 2 solenoids that are inside the bracket, and If that doesn't fix it, I think vw will just tell me to do whole timing chain, good deal for me is, I'm hourly trainee and I'm learning a lot throughout this.
Thanks for another great video, Charles. Hope it wasn't block damage.
Charles I'm dying to see the rest of the story! We all want to see you pull it apart and fix it....VR6 turbo is super interesting especially with your perspective! C'mon wtf Chuck!😂
Good stuff Charles, that got messy, You are right about lowered and modified cars, You could spend 20 minutes trying to set it on the lift, just to avoid damaging skirts:(
Hahah thanks. And yea not horrible but frustrating
Man u just help me start my vw cc .GOD bless you
Love the channel and the VW wizardry you are able to master.
From a diagnostic process standpoint: Pulling fuses (fan comes on which I would assume was the engine control unit fuse and a computer controlled fan) and then running a code check?! Seems like you're fighting yourself with an incorrect order of operations by possibly setting that intermittent communication fault.
Because of the multitude of issues I wanted to be sure we didn’t have other things afoot. Lol I’d still have check those things even if I jumped right to pot compression
@@HumbleMechanic yeah I can understand that, everyone has their own process.
I try to get codes and actual values ASAP with as little adulteration as possible. I've accidentally "fixed" too many CAN shorts during interior disassembly before knowing exactly whichcircuit I was chasing haha
100%!!! I like to be as hands off as possible. The owner mentioned about the fuse issue so I wanted to quick check
@@HumbleMechanic that makes sense now, obviously not all the info can be in the video.
Love the channel man, keep it up! 👍
Great video. Given that this is a modified engine, I wonder in your experience, which of VW's engines, have the more frequent timing chain failures? Thanks for sharing this interesting case of timing chain problems, Charles.
best mechanic ever VW
thank you! There are some way more talented techs out there. LOL
@@HumbleMechanic You are the best I have seen and I have seen a lot!
15:40 I think WV engines should start without working cam position sensors as long as you have crank position sensor and just keep cranking the engine. If I remember correctly, the engine should start after 8 full rotations. Of course, that will cause major wear to starter and the battery may fail so you still need to fix those sensors.
That is a gloriously beautiful looking little black beast.
The project car is looking wonderful
I would love to see the full fix especially the electrical issues
Fun video, I appreciate you always using clean language too. Not even a VW guy, never owned or worked on one, but you make good clean videos. Thanks.
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Nice one, glad you went right inside for a look 👀, love this stuff.
Ouch!! No bueno!! Great job Charles. 👍🏼👍🏼
Great video! I can see you having a tv series in the future, super cool content and presentation
That was some gnarly and interesting carnage. Sad for the owner :(
Really enjoying this in depth diagnostic video!
Ouch, that really sucks 😓
Enjoyable watching YOU diagnose (instead of me) though lol 🖖😅
HAHAHA
Another fantastic video my friend! 👍 Still enjoying the W8 very much! 🤞🏻
DUDE!!! So great to see ya comment. How are ya?
Loved this video . Can’t wait to see your R32 up and running . Just wanted to ask a question. I have a MK5 R32 with a n APR Stage 1 running 279.2 HP . Just ordered a K&N High flow air filter for it . Is this a good filter for my R32 . Would love to see your Yellow R again .👍😃
Had this issue with my 02 GTI VR6 back in 2016. Cam & crank Position sensor faults. Was driving home from work and it just died. Turned out timing chain went and carnage ensued. Said goodbye to her & bought my current CC. I miss that VR6 sound though.
When you think about how good a tool You Tube can be for DIY lessons it because of people like this. It is a shame that more don't follow his lead.
Another AWESOME video Charles. I was guessing maybe a camshaft positioning sensor because i had an Audi A4 that wouldn't start because of the camshaft sensors. Keep the informative videos coming. Where do i find the link for the bore scope??? I want one of those now.... lol
This makes me sad, but now the owner can have a dual turbo setup created by the MK4 Guru himself!
Can't wait for the next video on this car.
As soon as I heard u crank I knew what it was, I had that with a fsi in the shop. I was yelling at the phone crank it while looking in the oil fill🤣🤣
Hahahha
Makes me appreciate my Honda even more lol
Ok drive your honda and i will my passat 1.9tdi and we will see which will run longer.
@@timjeklar8699 Is there a petrol to diesel mile ratio to make it fair? lol
Be interesting to watch videos from this to see everything that is wrong with it. :) I notice that the needle on the aftermarket oil gauge was smack against the stop when you turned the hazard lights on.
Awesome video!
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Tutorial great loved it From start to finish
Thank you very much information was very helpful take care and have a great day HumbleMechanic
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Thank you
Nice job!!! Keep up the great work! Awesome video!
Great video Charles as per your usual! 👍👍😎👍👍
Super cool video, thanks for taking the extra time to show the nasty stuff 🤓
Absolutely crazy!!!! Good work!!
Yea, I'm pretty familiar with these involved repairs... Why, just the other day I replaced the timing belt in my 3 cyl. Chevy Metro. 😉
Big job.. love fixing other people problems
The electrical stuff reminds me of my old Conquest, the tach would drop to 0 in sync with the right turn signal just like this thing lol
The one dislike is Ray j lol
Wow! Cranking no start to engine rebuild. That escalated quickly!
Oh do I have a clue.. but gonna keep watchin :)
The fuel pump and your mouth primed at the same time 🤣🤣🤣 love you man! 5:00
Hahahah
1:35 this similar thing happened to me, i pulled over to a empty space at a road to start a obd2 diagnosis (to see the coolant temperature, was messing with the cooling system) and after connecting the obd2 to my phone via bluetooth, the car shut off like when you turn the key off (the key was still in the ingition and engine was running idle). Golf 4 2003
If you removed the upper timing chain cover, can the 2 guides be replace at this point???
Sad thing they never inspected the whole chain when they removed the trans.
Humble Mechanic, you're the best !! Don't forget to put also a protection to your beard dude !
Haha facts! Luckily the camera can zoom!