Please add your growing zone and 1st/last frost dates to your 'about' page. That would be helpful to us in order to adjust our thinking and planning for our own gardens. Thanks!
*edit*: Added a little blurb to our about page! Thanks again for the idea =) Good tip! I'll noodle on what would be the most helpful on that front. Cheers!
@lera m Zone 9! But.... I'm not a huge fan of the zone system for annual edibles. They've led to some really incorrect guidance on when to plant. I've added a more informative description to the About page =)
@@NextdoorHomesteadbut it does help us newbies who know nothing to see that so and so in zone blah blah blah was able to grow wooptywoos when the professional officials said that we can't because yada yada. Seeing a backyardagan successfully grow something in my same zone gives me hope and inspiration to try it too.
I'm in the PNW and I always leave a couple of lettuce plants to bolt because the flowers come out very early in spring and the bees are ravenous for them.
OK, thank you! I feel like a crazy person but I just have to let some of our overwintered greens bolt for the bees. It's the only way I can compete with the rosemary plants in the neighborhood that hog all the bee life =)
I've been slowly turning my lawn into organic white dutch clover. It comes out just after my first flowers (cherry blossoms) arrive, which is the same time dandelions start to come out. one of the best "first foods of the season" for bees.
I've been planting my tomatoes in the shade every year. They seem to like it especially the cherry and grape tomatoes. I even tried planting some big tomatoes and I was surprised to have a harvest last year also. The yard long beans, basil, water spinach, kale, sorrel and even peppers grow in my shady spot with only 2 1/2 hours sun.
2.5 hours is really impressive! I agree on sorrel - it's another great shade option. I love the red veined sorrel and have a lot of it coming in right now!
You have given me hope and encouragement that may be able to grow in my forest of a backyard. I have tall looking pines and gumball trees, as well as some I identified deciduous trees that steal the sun once spring is over. I get a lot if direct sun, then it turns shady and hot. I just purchased a variety of cherry and currant tomatoes , and some everglades seeds. I was concerned I'd have to use my front yard for the morning sun, but if midday sun and afternoon dappled shade can still grow them, I may have more space options.
The type of blueberry you should grow in shade is the Scandinavian Blueberry which is called Billberry in the US. It contains like 10 times more flavinoids than the American Blueberry, is nootropic and a MAOI which you supposedly can get high of if you eat enough of it.
The bilberry is native to UK and is the original plant that all other blueberries are derived from. It's not a type of blueberry. It is the mother of all.
I wish I'd done collards in Fall to overwinter! I love them and they're doing great this Spring for us too. What kind of strawberries do you like to grow?
100%. I was telling a farmer friend that I didn't think I wanted to plant Kohlrabi because it's not enough food per plant. And he reminded me to include the greens! Kohlrabi is now back =)
Awesome info! We live in the woods and don’t like to mass clear so we hand clear anywhere we need to create a garden bed, pop up a high tunnel or greenhouse and all of our paths are hand cleared. I’ve studied forest farming and wildcrafting because I naturally have ALOT of shade and dapple sun areas. So any food or medicine I can grow in low light areas is a bonus to us!
An FYI for anyone interested in em. Peppermint (and mint of course) are both incredibly aggressive growers. I would suggest planting them in their own separate pots and or in a corner of your yard that you don't intend on growing anything else. They WILL out compete and actually kill other plants and are INCREDIBLY tough to remove once they've set roots. On the plus side of that they're incredibly resilient and continuously grow throughout all seasons (from my experience).
1000%. Great advice and I should have mentioned this. I haven't had an issue with them growing out of control in the ground because our native soil is so tough but they will take over a container in a season or two. They're deceptive too! In season one they might seem like they're playing nice but all the while sending out runners underground and then just explode the next Spring and take the space =)
Add Shiso to that list, also a mint relative. But they dont spread by runners but by aggressive seed spread. They are extremely shallow rooted, so if you let a plant go to seed then next season expect a carpet of the stuff. But you can easily rip them out with a tug. Popular for Asian cuisine, they love the sun and shade, but I advise against letting this plant self dow as it's fatality toxic to any ruminent animal in any form, fresh or dried, and also dogs in concentrated seeds form. I missed out on the chance to have a herd of goats clear my forrest floor of unwanted brush and poison ivy because I had this mint running wild everywhere the wind blows. Its been two years and I'm still pulling new seedlings each spring. Wish I'd thought to sell it to the local Asian Food Mart. I could have made a buck or two.
OTOH, I do let my Lemon Balm Run as wild as it can. My peppermint got knocked over by critters and escaped, taking over the strip of soil beside my front walk. I wasn't too disappointed though, because fireants had also taken over that strip and were a literal pain to deL with when trying to harvest badol and peppers from. The o ly sunny spot in my yard. Bonus, I always have a gift for people walking by: freshly cut mint for tea!
@@NextdoorHomestead Yeah they for sure are. My mom put some in my oregano pot and by the time I noticed it was already too late, I kind of let the two run their course and it became a faction war between the two. A combination of a really bad frost storm and I imagine the both of them fighting for root space and nutrients really killed back the bunch. So I pretty much dug out as much as I could, planted a new set of oregano and left what I 100% verified to be oregano n remove whatever peppermint stragglers that I managed to miss. By the end I hope the oregano just outcompetes the peppermint with my assistance and I can finally have my oregano pot back lol.
We live in a forested area and are shaded on all sides- we only get about 4hrs of sun in the main part of our garden. I can reliably grow indeterminate tomatoes, hot peppers, broccoli, kale, romaine and butter crunch lettuces (I just leave it to go to seed and it comes up in its own each year), ground cherries (these also self sow) and garlic, asparagus and strawberries. And so many herbs do well in shade- chives, thyme, oregano, lovage, sage, self sown cilantro and dill… and basil in containers
I have good deal of shade in my Northern Michigan garden. I found that Swiss Chard Bright Lights did incredibly well in medium shade, and was a gorgeous addition of color lining my paths. Can't wait to try some of your tips!
That's awesome - I personally *love* swiss chard and have lots growing =). I mostly just go with the rainbow mix, but I think that ends next year. I want to find some specific varieties and narrow it down to the best. Anyhow, hope the tips help!
Agree on the blueberries….we have a much cooler, mostly shade spot of the yard, and potted blueberries have grown fine there, even with imperfectly acidified soil.
I attended a seed exchange event in my community the other day (it was so much fun and an amazing way to make sure extra seeds don't go to waste and try new varieties!) Anyway, they had a short presentation on seed saving and talked about how if you save from plants that do particularly well in the conditions you're looking for, within a couple generations you'll have plants that are more suited to those conditions. Have you experienced anything like this? I'm thinking of trying to do that for plants I'm trying to grow in my shady back yard.
That sounds like a blast! I haven't personally done any sort of landracing attempts but I think it's only a matter of time. I'm not huge on seed saving normally but I think if done with a goal of creating a line that's hyper-adapted to your microclimate, it could be really fun =)
Alpine strawberries and thimble berries are the only two fruits I know of that grow in shade. Thimble berries are dreadfully susceptible to spider mites.
In defense of the ornamental grass, bunching grasses are good nesting locations for ground beetles, which eat garden pests. So if you can't grow food there, you can use the area to grow support plants for your garden.
I love that, thank you Carson. It's hard sometimes to give up productive (in terms of food production) space but it's nice to find other ways to benefit your own little ecosystem =)
Thank you! Great to finally find a cold region/shade gardening channel. While my garden isn't strictly all shade, it is a north facing garden in Scotland, and few are the days when it isn't overcast. I am delighted to see a tomato growing in such conditions - when, for the past 20 years, I have been unable to get more than 3-4 tomatoes total, regardless of all the tips and tricks I've ferreted out of the internet. Nothing's worked and this is the first year I've finally given up. So I am definitely going to try and track down some black tomato seed! Might I suggest - I have blackcurrants and redcurrants fruiting reasonably well under the dense shade of an ancient hazelnut tree, gooseberries fruiting sufficiently under the denser shade of a large goat willow, and many raspberries will tolerate a bit of shade too. Also, in the perennial vegetable bracket - Red-Veined Sorrel works for me (in leaf right now. In fact, there have been a few leaves throughout the winter). Alchemilla mollis will happily produce mountains of edible leaves wherever you plant it. It does best in sun, but a bit of shade will keep it that little bit more manageable. An acquired taste, some people don't like the very slight fur on the leaf surface in a salad, but if you chop it up well with other leaves or use them like spinach to pad out a stew, they're fine. Last year, I planted an Ostrich Fern in a mostly shady place. It's quite small at the moment, but I hear these 'Fiddleheads' are very popular in California at least. My Marjoram plants have had a crown of tiny leaves in the centre all winter just like the mint, so that's another one to try. I'm currently dividing mine up to try in the wilder permaculture garden, see how they fare among other, larger plants. Some Hostas are edible. I'm unsure exactly which ones, but I have 'Bressingham Blue' in my garden. It's more green than blue, but I'm limited to what I can grow because I have a ton of slugs and snails, this is a slug-proof variety and slug-proof Hostas are as rare as hen's teeth. I'll have to give carrots another go. I think that my habit of a Spring sowing is what's producing poor results. Evidently, they need that extra few months. Good luck with the channel.
Thank you kindly Debbie! If you've long struggled to get tomatoes to fruit, might I suggest going even more extreme and trying to grow a parthenocarpic variety? Something like 'Oregon Star' or 'Oregon Spring'? They don't require pollination at all to set fruit and were bred as such to give harvests in the very low sun conditions of the Pacific Northwest coast. Just an idea! And I LOVE red-veined sorrel. I've got 36 of 'em waiting to plant out right now actually =) We're growing Jostaberry (a currant / gooseberry hybrid) which likes to be out of our harsh sun but I will definitely look out for some standard currant bushes too! And thank you for the tip on the Hosta variety! A local nursery owner told me about the slug issue around here, I didn't know there were resistant varieties. Cheers!
North West England... Tiny 'garden' n mostly in shade a little light only during a sunny summer 😂😂😂!! (we mainly have cloudy wet skies even in summer). Agree red veined sorrel, however crop very tiny compared to any sun areas. N brambles... Few raspberries if can grow tall enough. Everything else just dies off chives!! Everything. strawberries grow but no fruit so use it to prpergate runners. 2 Parsley plants did well for a few months then died, replanted but they died. So annoying such limited space n little grows. Tomatoes, carrots all others mentioned just failed. 😢
No idea. A field would have more access to Sun etc... With tiny town 'spaces ' 'gardens' extra challenges. Little space, light, cold, soggy. Too many summers a wash out. Not able to even dry washing outside.
I just subscribed!!! I have a thing for gardeners that smile in their thumbnails in such a way that lets me know that they love gardening as much as I do :) That’s how Jess from Roots and refuge got me. Her thumbnails are so joyful and jolly!
Nasturtium really needs to be added to this list. Grows in full shade, through mild winters. Is both food and medicine. Grow extremely easy even in depleted soil. And It’s so pretty
=) Ok, I have to admit I have bad luck with nasturtiums! I am giving them another shot right now though - they're in some trays (hopefully germinating). I didn't know they were edible, thank you for the tip!
Nasturtium seeds (if your plants set seed) may also be pickled like capers, which they sort of taste like. I missed the boat to start my own here this year (northern Gulf of Mexico Coast zone 8b). I may buy some locally grown potted nasturtiums this spring to hang in shade (little mom & pop growers are less likely to treat their plants with neonicotinoid systemic poisons like some of the big box stores use on their "ornamental" plants). I like hanging baskets of beautiful trailing nastutiums in shade to add some peppery bite to my salads with their leaves and flowers, and maybe even get enough seeds to save a few for next fall and pickle the rest. Fairly heavy shade gives them more of a growing season in the heat here.
@@wardsdotnetyou are right - nasturtium does NOT like the heat. It is mainly a late fall/winter/early spring plant here on the northern Gulf Coast. (Deep South zone 8b) It gives up and dies when summer's heat comes on in April/May. Cilantro is like that too.
Hello! I just find your channel and I love it! Gardening was such an important part of my recovery from depression and anxiety ♥️ Now it's lovely to watch content creators like you talk about plants, nature and gardening with so much love and passion. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I don't know a lot about plants that thrive on shade so this is perfect! I would absolutely love to do Spanish subtitles for this video for free, so I can share it with friends and family! If that's something you'd be interested in, please let me know 🌿
Hi Rosario! Thank you so much for this lovely comment, it just brings such a smile to my face. Truly. I would absolutely love to have Spanish subtitles, that sounds wonderful. Emberrasingly, I've never added subtitles to a video and will need to learn how! If it is really something you are interested in doing, let me know - my email is on the About page for the channel =)
I'm excited! My growing areas are partial sun thanks to mature trees throwing shade. Also a plus, I'm in Zone 9! Very cool! Looking forward to more videos 🌻
@@NextdoorHomestead I really like your food garden ideas for marginal land! 🙂 Carrots and winter rye have an antifreeze protein. Red (Pakistani) carrots do well in the winter season. 🥕
violets are great in shade as groundcover - and not only the flowers are edible, the leaves, too. Almost all year round - I'm in Germany Zone 7b-ish, so in zone 9 they might be awesome in winter, too.
@@MartinaSchoppe Hello Martina. My Grandma taught me how to make crystallised flowers. Sweets & cake decorations. They're gorgeous! Candied or crystallized flowers add a delicate floral flavor and a beautiful appearance. Do take care though, not all flowers are edible. Here are the ones I commonly use: hibiscus, shrinking violets, lavender, primroses, roses, borage, jasmine, violas, nasturtiums, cornflowers, sage, thyme flowers. 🌹🌺 Process: Pick the flowers on a dry, sunny day when they are fully open. Remove the stalks. Pour a lightly beaten (but not frothy) egg white into a saucer. Have another saucer of caster sugar beside it. Using tweezers, dip the flower heads or petals first into the egg white and then into the sugar. Use a fine paintbrush to tease the sugar into any crinkles and hollows within the flower. Shake off any excess sugar before laying the flowers on a sheet of baking parchment. Place in a warm, dry and airy spot to dry for 24-48 hours. When fully dry, store the crystallised flowers carefully between layers of baking parchment or greaseproof paper in an airtight container. This extends their life and preserves them for up to a year. 🍃🌺🌼🍃🌼🌺🌼🍃🌺🌼🍃
@@MartinaSchoppe I just *love* johnny jump ups (viola tricolor). We've actually got a couple dozen germinating in the garage right now and some volunteers popping up in the vegetable garden. I think they are the prettiest edible flower out there. I tried growing them in our cool seasons last year as some folks seem to have success with it but they couldn't handle it unfortunately =(
Thanks for the video. I will have to give carrots and Tomatillos a chance in my more shaded area. I have at least 20 oaks plus numerous other tress so I have very little sunny areas in my yard,
Try Perilla in the shade. I think it would do great and it’s full of benefits. Perilla grows wild and plentiful deep in the forest behind my house where there is no sun light due to the thick trees and brush.
Im in zone 7a/b, NWArkansas. We tend to be very hot in summer, i.e. 90-100. Some years worse than others. I see youre in zone 9. Is that Southern California? Florida?
Hello there! I actually had no idea NW Arkansas was quite that warm in Summer. I've always wanted to visit the Fayetteville area. Anyhow, my sincere apologies, but my family and I've decided not to share out our location. We're a dry, long, hot summer climate though! Happy gardening =)
Glad I found you. You get a sub too😊😊!! How do you afford all the soil for bigger containers? Found some in my garden shed from previous owners, but am completely dismayed by how much soil to use them, even coco coir is expensive now. 1 brick fills maybe 1/2 of one of my containers. Good grief...
Thanks so much Jean - so glad you enjoyed our video =) I think the price of potting mix is utterly absurd and a real problem. It's pricing people out of gardening. The way that I afford it is by making lots of compromises and patiently waiting for sales. So for instance, with our most recent round of containers, I waited until Home Depot had a sale on "in ground" soil for $2 a bag and I mixed that with cheep aged steer manure and wood chips we got for free from an arborist. We then add in very affordable (but very good) Espoma garden tone fertilizer and perlite I bought for a fraction of the cost during the offseason. We've experimented A LOT with different approaches to mixing our own potting soil to get to a point where we can do it affordably. If that's too much effort, Walmart had a very good price on Promix Potting soil recently which is very good.
Seconding lemonbalm. It's the only plant that lives in the shadiest spot under the deck. Also survived 15F frost and 115F summer. None of the mint types survived
@NextdoorHomestead yes, it's hard to find edible non-tree perenials with these temps for a small urban garden. But at least I have a variety of sun/shade levels to work with.
Wasabi Japonica grows fine in the shade here, in the Netherlands. Keep it out of the sun, use big pots. Had some frost, didn't mind it at all. Full summer sun kills it.
Sigh, it's so true! Folks from the right climates and ecosystems would laugh at how much effort I have to go through to grow blueberries. I suppose that's the price we pay to get so much variety in our home gardens =)
Blueberry grow well in acidic soils, so in damp forests with water saturated soil nearby, boggy areas, with plenty of leaf and vegetation matter rotting in those damp soils.
So, I like your knowledge an presentations, a TH-camr tip for you ( and I would not offer it except for personal experience,) try pulling back your hair into a ponytail for a couple months. I think you would look more professional and get more views. Just sayin.
Thanks for the suggestions! Looking forward to getting some of these plants into my garden this year. I’ve been trying to figure out my shady areas for two years now! Hoping I can fill my beds this year🙂.
No problem! Lots of experimentation is definitely the key. We're trying a variety of alliums and some more greens in these shady spots to try and expand our list =) Best of luck!
non edible but flowering, my begonias and hollyhock thrive in shade with irregular watering. Full blooms almost year round in full shade 9b. My hollyhock gave me a 4 foot spike of big pink flowers in January with nothing but dappled light. My begonias bloom in full shade. Smaller butterflies and bigger moths seem to settle in them, especially when the bees take over stuff like the bottlebrush tree.
Well yeesh I'm convinced. I wanted to plant hollyhock anyhow and I'm not sure why we don't have begonias already =) Thank you for the tips - these sound *perfect* for what I need actually. Good weekend project!
In USA's "growing zones system" 9 is subtropical bordering tropical? I live in a northern temperate coastal climate and want to be sure how to relate to your advice.
Does rhubarb grow well in a hot climate? Mine grows in the deepest, darkest, coldest corner of my garden and it is thriving. But I live in temperate climate.
It's generally harder to grow in hot climates! I'm not a huge rhubarb person but it does sound fun to try sticking it in a shady corner somewhere... =)
Hmmm, I can definitely speak to plants that tolerate clay soil but I don't have much in the way of issues with rocks or shallow soil. I wouldn't want to give bad advice on that context!
I find that I can grow anything in partial sun…or what I call morning till noon and delay some growth that way. I have tomatoes/dill in both full and partial..in full sun I have more growth and fruit, in partial sun my dill has not gone to seed and less tomatoes. Keep making your professional videos
If I can get a few weeks of dill production this year, I'll be a happy camper! Ours seems to go to seed if you look at it funny =) Thank you for the encouragement Jason! Means the world to us.
Maybe it's a Dutch thing, but we love our Frisee Andive, raw and cooked. great video, I've moved and have more shade now so I was looking for inspiration
That's awesome! I don't see it here much except as a small bit in a mix or even as a garnish =/ I'm so glad it was helpful! Best of luck with the new shady spots =)
I click the like button and subscribe too 😏I live in Minneapolis and we are still in 40s in 2 of may ! Too cold to plant anything and for me to go out ( I am skinny 76 years old lady )
During the day?! I hope Summer comes quickly for you =) I don't like to garden in the cold much either... Thank you very much for supporting our video and channel!
I have a shady part of my backyard due to a neighbors fence. I planted mint there. I wanted it to spread and provide grown cover to the area. The first year it started spreading nicely but the next year it was nowhere. Gone. Im disappointed. I planted a number of trees to provide shade to my house. Saves on AC in our sauna like summers. But they must be deciduous so they dont provide shade in the winter. Then the sun is good. Hardly used any heaters this past winter.
Inland empire So. Cal. almost everything could use some shade. In other words many things cook in summer heat. I move some containers with the season to extend growth
Yeah, the equation certainly changes to favor a bit of shade later in the year. Unfortunately a lot of our garden still gets few hours of direct light even when it's in the triple digits.
Ah, sorry Lida! You're definitely not the first to say so. I love having a little music but clearly need to work on getting the volume levels right! Thank you for watching!
I so am enjoying your thoughtful and encouraging videos!! I grew spinach plants this winter(Georgia) on a south wall in big pots. Had a good continuous crop. My arugula did not do well….except for one plant. I forgot to mulch or didn’t have mulch back then. We had a 9 degree night back in December which was so brrrr cold…..for Atlanta, Georgia!! Please continue to send your videos out…..to us. I am subscribed! Because I have a north front…..my south side is a little….unpredictable….in summer. Tree canopy overgrowth is an issue also in the south side back yard. So I am listening closely to your….advice. So grateful for your videos!! Ahna
Thank you for the kind words and for checking out our channel Ahna! Growing on a South wall of a home seems like you did everything right 😁. Sometimes nature just wins. I just went to check my lettuce and at least ten of my seedlings were eaten to nubs! I've got so much gardening and videos planned for this year, I can't wait to share! I hope your Spring garden grows beautifully. Cheers,
😂…also,no….😂 I grow small tomatoes under palm trees, so they get dappled sun at best. Sweet 100 have done well, but now I’m going to try the black cherry, too! Thanks!
Haha part of the shade in my garden is from a palm! So we actually grow super sweet 100s, and I love them, but for us the black cherries were better producers in the shade. I hope they work for you!
Nice tips. I also have a lot of shade in my garden. I have a few strips of full sun though. My full sun is mostly a thin strip against the fence line and a couple other areas.
It's one of my favorite things to grow period! My only advice is don't give up on it too fast - it takes its time and then *explodes* and plant it in a container =) Best of luck with the garden this year!
I did arugula in my half day sun, planter garden alongside spinach. The spinach bolted instantly, probably due to being sprouted in full sun, then thinking the season was ending with only partial sun, but the arugula has done pretty well with sun until only around noon.
Spinach is so funny that way! It doesn't just need to be the right conditions, it needs to be *consistent* too or it freaks out that things are changing. I find it a relatively challenging green!
Parts of my garden are overrun with lemon balm and I do nothing to help it. It grows in poor soil with no water during our drought summers, it spreads and will take over that garden space and out compete even other mints.
Ours are all in containers but it sure does spread fast. One difference vs. peppermint (in my experience) is it establishes better in season one instead of waiting for season two to explode.
Tomatillos do okay with less sun and lower temperatures and fail less . My Swedish grown tomatillos taste as good as they do grown in hotter weather, my Swedish tomatoes are not that tasty. I have had lovely looking tomatoes setting on, and then it turns off cold and wet and then 😢😥
Hey Carl! When it comes to perennials, I think you have some leeway =). They may not grow as fast or as large but most will still grow in partial shade (full shade may be another matter - I'd go with mint in that case). So that said, the perennial herbs I think smell the most wonderful in the garden are anise hyssop, lavender, mexican mint marigold, and lemon verbena. I hope others throw in their suggestions too! It's a great question.
Heya! We've decided not to share our specific location - I hope you understand =). We do have a blurb about our growing climate on the About page though =) I've spent a bit of time gardening in South Florida and it's definitely a very different experience. I have low humidity and much less precipitation and our Springs take quite a lot longer to really warm up (especially at night). I miss the biodiversity of south Florida a lot!
i just found you so this is the first video of yours i have seen, forgive me if you mentioned these elsewhere... a number of plants we think of as "purely ornamental" are in fact edible. now they may not be your first choice! but... Hosta, is in fact edible, although it upsets some folks digestion. also Ostrich fern fronts (fiddle heads) and ramps... and if you have a "pure shade" and want something fun? get a mushroom plug and a nice log....
What awesome additions! I actually had no idea hosta was edible, I've stayed away from growing it in our shady sitting area because it's toxic to dogs. I just kind of assumed it was inedible for us as well!
I'm fond of ornamental plants that are also edible .. Hostas, Day Lily, Canna Lily, Fern (not all are edible, make sure you know what you have) Dahlias just to name a few. Grow food right under the noses of the HOA! 😁
Commenting as I watch. Arugula is Rocket here, and yes, ours prefer shade due to how harsh our sun can be here. We get better yield and softer flavour through autumn/winter. in spring it gets very bitter, and bolts towards the end. Endive: I don't even know what this is, but sounds like it would suit our half and half spots. Carrot: yeah, we grew our last lot in mostly shade. It was fine we just had to be careful with water retention. Corn salad: never heard of it, but cool. Our lettuce does good in pretty much full shade. Tomatos: All year crop for us. Our cherries all do well in shade. Tomatillos: haven't tried yet. Pole bean: have only done snow peas. So a bit different, but they do so good in mostly shade and ours got over 6ft lol. Mint: Only mint that we've managed to grow is cat mint, but it is thriving and in the shade. Blueberries: have just died. Everytime. Lemonbalm: something in my garden adore lemon balm so it gets eaten before I ever get usable lol. But yes, we get good sprouting with shade. Japanese grass: cool. Some additions we've had luck with in shade: Lemongrass Monsteria deliciousa Dragonfruit Corn & sorghum & wheat surprisingly Amaranth is fantastic in shade. Maybe not full shade, but majority of the day is fine. Malabar spinach. It grows well in sun or shade. Depending on your climate. Anyway, you're an awesome creator. Glad you came up in my rec!
What?! This is just such a tremendous comment. Hahaha, I'm so stoked reading someone else's experience with all these. - You should 100% try tomatillos they are the best - my next video is on blueberries actually - they are totally fussy - Malabar is maybe a top 5 plant for me. I'm so excited to make a video on it this year and hopefully spread the word ;) Thank you so much for the kind words. Really appreciate it!
@@NextdoorHomestead Look forward to the blueberry stuff then! Pretty much any "speciality" types I'd have to buy from seed tho, as our local nurseries don't stock the best options. And yes, once I get my hands on some tomatillo seeds I will definitely see how they go. They look similar to Cape gooseberries so hopefully grow just as well here. We also rely solely on rain water on our property so experimenting with shade has been incredibly important over the past 6 years that we've been on this property, because as you found out, shade makes for less evaporation. Having said that, I'm having some really good success with sunken terracotta pot watering systems now so it's not as important. I have invested in some shade cloth tho for when summer comes back.
Can someone explain to me why I see it with Spanish subtitles? Other videos get German dub for no apparent reason. TH-cam is a huge mess right now! Why can't I see the videos as is? I tried to switch off subtitles, but they keep coming back and the settings don't change anything.
It's probably my mistake honestly! This is the only video where I manually added subtitles (generously created by a viewer - thank you!!!!) and I probably didn't do it correctly. I'll go double-check the video's subtitle settings =) Cheers!
@@NextdoorHomestead OK. Thanks. I'm particularly frustrated when I click on a video with English title and then don't hear English. I speak German, but the translations I get are usually atrocious. I don't mind subs or dubs, far from it, but I don't want them forced upon me.
I encouragee.in balm. My ground is clay. Like terracotta on the potters wheel clay clay. The only things successfully growing in it are weedy plantain, clover, and dandelions. And prickly vines. The lemon balm give me a bit of joy to those warzone looking areas. It's not very aggressive against my weeds and soil but it is taking a few spots. I also plan to get some catnip going so it can acclimate and propagate. Besides indulging myself of catnip tea, and getting my cats high, I need some naturL deterrent for the horrible mosquito population, and catnip'll do the trick fo me and the cats. Grab a few fresh leaves, crush them in your hands and apply to any exposed skin and you'll avoid mosquito attention for at least half an hour if not longer. Look it up. I kid you not. Forget expensive citronella geraniums and oils and coils, and deet sprays, catnip has been doing it this whole time. It even works with the essential oil, but don't use that on or near the cats, because of concentration toxicity of essential oils and cats' livers. Even when I dilute it super weak, it still works and my cats want to run. Everything. I used catnip spray around my doorway and screen and it reduced the number of skeeters hanging around to sneak in. So Lemon Balm and Catnip are the two mints I HOPE will spread throughout my yarden.
Lovely video! I think one of the things about carrots is that if you plant them in a really shady spot early in the season, the soil will be too cold for them to germinate. At least that's my butter experience anyway!
I'm so excited to watch through your videos! You've got such a distinct color grade going on. Can't wait to actually get into the gardening bit. And yeah, I can totally see that being an issue. My carrot germination strategy is very similar to my flower and herb germination strategy.... sow an insane number of seeds and don't worry at all about the germ rate =). It, uh, works for me!
Do you think that the amount of cloudy days a biome experiences, in which the light is more evenly diffused, can have a dramatic effect on plants in shady areas? I have been wondering this for a while.
Hmmm, I can say that I've noticed *everything* grows at a snails pace when we get extended cloudy periods but even the shade plants grow well (within reason) on sunny days. Purely my observation though!
this is a non-vege, but for the darkest corner with literal 100% shade, oyster mushroom is perfect to grow in a bucket. Just remember to cover with a clear plastic garbage bag so that it wont dry out
Enjoyed your video. I also have grown black cherry tomatoes and many family members Enjoyed them...myself included. I have seedlings going at the moment..along with some other varieties. Will check out your tomatillo video as I did not have success last year. Thank you for sharing the information. Greetings from Zone 10...South Florida.
Greetings Sonia! Thanks so much for watching =) I have become a bit of a proponent for tomatillos - they can be a really good safeguard when the tomatoes and peppers don't want to grow!
I would add hostas. They are part of the asparagus family and are similarly edible, and are grown in Asia as an edible instead of a decorative. Hostas can do well in as little as 3 hours of sunlight. They are easier to propagate and transplant than asparagus, and they don't take as long to get established.
@@NextdoorHomestead I don't know if there's a difference in how they taste, and blanching may be required to make the mature leaves palatable. However, I think we have the whirlwind, the one with the white stripe, and the halcyon, or whichever is the small standard green one.
I’d add bush beans to the list. I’ve done great with bush beans with only 4 hours of direct sun while I need more like 6 hours for pole beans. I’d also look at peppers for locations that get only morning sun if you live in hot climates (this helps avoid sun scald.) Finally, you mentioned limited blueberry varieties due to heat. Check out Rabbiteye blueberry varieties. These grow in the southern US (Georgia to Texas) and handle intense heat just fine. There are lots varieties.
You know, I need to look into Rabbiteyes more. They're not easy to come by around me and it's a truism here that only southern highbush will work. Thanks for the reminder! And yeah, I agree with you re: bush beans. I've had better luck with pole beans due to their growth habits but Provider bush beans seem to do well enough in just about any context.
@@NextdoorHomestead if you do go with a rabbiteye, it’s recommended to get at least two different varieties that blossom at the same time. The cross pollination yields substantially more fruit.
Sorry for the late reply Elliot - for some reason your comment was flagged for review automatically. I have absolutely no idea why. I'm definitely going to ask around and see if I can find some to try out.
Thank you for sharing this information. Going to be handy for my tiny garden with the house at my east, and a big 8ft wall at my west! Not idea but glad to hear the mizuna and rocket (arugala) should be ok.
@@NextdoorHomestead No I don't, but perhaps I should give it a try once more. When I was a schoolkid, my brother and I used to wander the ploughed fields from last fall right about this time of the year. We each had a "wallpaper knife" a long, thin, but dull piece of metal with a handle. What you're looking for is the yellow leaves of dandelion that got dug under and is peeking through the ground. We used to bring home three or four plastic shopping bags and mom would clean it and make a dressing from just vinegar, oil, salt pepper and sour cream. We'd sit at the dining table and munch the salad down like a bunch of cattle. Something in the way the farmers are working their crops changed sometime in the eighties. No one plants potatoes anymore where I live and the same goes for sugar beets a farmer explained to me. Anyway, the fields were already "raked even" and if there were any dandelion, they'd be spread out flat on the ground which makes it green and bitter (or maybe Roundup did its "magic" lol). My father tried to grow dandelion in our garden and put dirt around the dandelion like you would do with potatoes. He also put black buckets over the plants and we had some beautiful results, but it took lots of effort and it just wasn't a whole lot. On the rare occasions you see dandelion being sold, you pay an arm and a leg. In our local slang, dandelion at this stage is called "Bettsäächer" which literally translates to "bed pisser". I think it is because of its diuretic properties. Sorry for the long story you didn't really ask for. To put this into a time perspective - I recently turned 59. People nowadays consider bed pisser salad rabbit food. Greetings from Germany.
Hehe. Hi Samantha, you sound like you're in Wisconsin. I'm in Madison, now getting weather in 40's. Been skipping my sweater too. Haha. Yes, he's in the south. Tho I'm not sure where. Was in Atlanta a few years ago, it was mid 40's, I wore a sweater, but saw a kid with full parka with hood up! Plants may be tolerant, but folks are not necessarily tolerant to cooler weather in the South. Hehe.
I live in zone 8b and anytime I've grown carrots in the shade, my harvest ends up being full of tiny little 2 inch nub carrots. This has happened to both my Danver carrots and red chantonnay carrots. So def not recommending carrots in shade if you live in the Western Washington state area. Maybe it works in yours though.
Dude... shade garden is not 4 hours ( in my winter garden is less than 2 hours.)and literally nothing apart from potatoes and beet leaves didn't grow...
This a good video :) the people complaining want all the information in one place and obviously don’t want to do their own research. Your doing great. Thanks for the tips.
Black cherry is one of my struggling garden's clear winners, is successful on spite of all the challenges and taste amazing, thanks i will try one in the shady planter this year.
I don't know how well they will take to containers as I live too far north for them (Ontario) but I recall that Pawpaws are a secondary woodland tree, growing in the under-story in partial shade around other trees; likely it will want a lot of compost and rotted leaf litter but I'm sure there are other channels on here that can give you advice on commercial breeds (only just now becoming available to the gardener) and advice on planting and care
i have a blueberry i planted in my garden last year i think and so far it didnt produce much fruits yet, but this year i really tried to give my plants a good environment and hope it manages to give some berries
Good luck! I'm rooting for you and those blueberries =) I've generally found that even borderline bushes will give some berries so I think you've got a good chance at it!
Please add your growing zone and 1st/last frost dates to your 'about' page. That would be helpful to us in order to adjust our thinking and planning for our own gardens. Thanks!
*edit*: Added a little blurb to our about page! Thanks again for the idea =)
Good tip! I'll noodle on what would be the most helpful on that front.
Cheers!
@@NextdoorHomestead So, what is your growing zone?
@lera m Zone 9! But.... I'm not a huge fan of the zone system for annual edibles. They've led to some really incorrect guidance on when to plant.
I've added a more informative description to the About page =)
@@NextdoorHomestead Thank You,
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@@NextdoorHomesteadbut it does help us newbies who know nothing to see that so and so in zone blah blah blah was able to grow wooptywoos when the professional officials said that we can't because yada yada. Seeing a backyardagan successfully grow something in my same zone gives me hope and inspiration to try it too.
Fall/Spring shade
0:38 arugula
1:29 frisée endive
2:36 carrot
3:28 macha greens
Summer shade
5:16 black cherry tomatoes
6:09 tomatillos
6:58 pole beams
Perennial shade
7:47 peppermint
8:23 blueberries
9:59 lemon balm
Bonus
11:36 Japanese forest grass
Thank you.
Thanks!
Thanks a million!❤
You are a hero! Thank you.
Thank you so much!
Mint is a container ONLY plant! Please learn from my suffering...it is very hardy. Unless you want to grow only mint, put it in a container.
Best shade plant I've found is Garlic Chives - They're almost impossible to kill and require no care plus pollinators like the flowers.
Oh that's such a good addition! I love me some chives.
Agreed, I grow chives in a container on my porch. No direct sun at all
I just chop mine down for the winter and they pop back up come early spring! 4years same bunch
@@NextdoorHomestead they're a really intensely flavored vegetable too, a bit tough but in stir fries, soups or stews they're amazing.
Wild nodding onions aren't picky, you can eat the green tops and the bees love the flowers too. They grow wild in my yard.
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I'm in the PNW and I always leave a couple of lettuce plants to bolt because the flowers come out very early in spring and the bees are ravenous for them.
OK, thank you! I feel like a crazy person but I just have to let some of our overwintered greens bolt for the bees. It's the only way I can compete with the rosemary plants in the neighborhood that hog all the bee life =)
I've been slowly turning my lawn into organic white dutch clover. It comes out just after my first flowers (cherry blossoms) arrive, which is the same time dandelions start to come out. one of the best "first foods of the season" for bees.
@@dethaddr I need to get back to planting clover - thank you for the reminder! We used to and I sort of fell out of the habit...
I've been planting my tomatoes in the shade every year. They seem to like it especially the cherry and grape tomatoes. I even tried planting some big tomatoes and I was surprised to have a harvest last year also. The yard long beans, basil, water spinach, kale, sorrel and even peppers grow in my shady spot with only 2 1/2 hours sun.
2.5 hours is really impressive!
I agree on sorrel - it's another great shade option. I love the red veined sorrel and have a lot of it coming in right now!
Did you feed them a lot?
You have given me hope and encouragement that may be able to grow in my forest of a backyard. I have tall looking pines and gumball trees, as well as some I identified deciduous trees that steal the sun once spring is over. I get a lot if direct sun, then it turns shady and hot. I just purchased a variety of cherry and currant tomatoes , and some everglades seeds. I was concerned I'd have to use my front yard for the morning sun, but if midday sun and afternoon dappled shade can still grow them, I may have more space options.
Your full off Dug
I can grow lemons in 3 hours of sunlight
The type of blueberry you should grow in shade is the Scandinavian Blueberry which is called Billberry in the US. It contains like 10 times more flavinoids than the American Blueberry, is nootropic and a MAOI which you supposedly can get high of if you eat enough of it.
The bilberry is native to UK and is the original plant that all other blueberries are derived from. It's not a type of blueberry. It is the mother of all.
Now THAT is the type of blueberries I need
In Michigan I have great success with parsley, strawberries, and rhubarb in shade. Kale and Collards do very well all winter as well.
I wish I'd done collards in Fall to overwinter! I love them and they're doing great this Spring for us too.
What kind of strawberries do you like to grow?
Wow, you are such a great presenter. Fabulous video. Thank you so much. Great information.
This was such a kind comment, thank you so much Veronica! I'm so glad it was helpful =)
I've also found thyme to be a great shade tolerant herb doesn't grow AS big, but it hangs in and provides some nice additional food/spice in the life
1000% I totally agree. I'm working on an herb video and we put the thyme in a shadier spot on purpose so it doesn't get too big.
Hostas do well in the shade and the new spring buds taste delicious roasted like asparagus!
Hahaha if nothing else this video has been a cosmic reminder to get myself to the nursery for some Hostas! I can't wait to try them now!
They are edible?
… don’t forget that the carrot tops are very edible … as are the leaves from many vegetables you wouldn’t think of !
100%. I was telling a farmer friend that I didn't think I wanted to plant Kohlrabi because it's not enough food per plant. And he reminded me to include the greens! Kohlrabi is now back =)
Awesome info! We live in the woods and don’t like to mass clear so we hand clear anywhere we need to create a garden bed, pop up a high tunnel or greenhouse and all of our paths are hand cleared. I’ve studied forest farming and wildcrafting because I naturally have ALOT of shade and dapple sun areas. So any food or medicine I can grow in low light areas is a bonus to us!
That sounds seriously delightful. Good on you for working with your ecosystem and I'm so glad you got something useful from this video =)
Any suggestions of how you deal with wildlife like squirrels, raccoons, and deer.?
An FYI for anyone interested in em. Peppermint (and mint of course) are both incredibly aggressive growers. I would suggest planting them in their own separate pots and or in a corner of your yard that you don't intend on growing anything else. They WILL out compete and actually kill other plants and are INCREDIBLY tough to remove once they've set roots. On the plus side of that they're incredibly resilient and continuously grow throughout all seasons (from my experience).
1000%. Great advice and I should have mentioned this. I haven't had an issue with them growing out of control in the ground because our native soil is so tough but they will take over a container in a season or two.
They're deceptive too! In season one they might seem like they're playing nice but all the while sending out runners underground and then just explode the next Spring and take the space =)
Add Shiso to that list, also a mint relative. But they dont spread by runners but by aggressive seed spread. They are extremely shallow rooted, so if you let a plant go to seed then next season expect a carpet of the stuff. But you can easily rip them out with a tug. Popular for Asian cuisine, they love the sun and shade, but I advise against letting this plant self dow as it's fatality toxic to any ruminent animal in any form, fresh or dried, and also dogs in concentrated seeds form. I missed out on the chance to have a herd of goats clear my forrest floor of unwanted brush and poison ivy because I had this mint running wild everywhere the wind blows. Its been two years and I'm still pulling new seedlings each spring. Wish I'd thought to sell it to the local Asian Food Mart. I could have made a buck or two.
OTOH, I do let my Lemon Balm Run as wild as it can.
My peppermint got knocked over by critters and escaped, taking over the strip of soil beside my front walk. I wasn't too disappointed though, because fireants had also taken over that strip and were a literal pain to deL with when trying to harvest badol and peppers from. The o ly sunny spot in my yard. Bonus, I always have a gift for people walking by: freshly cut mint for tea!
@@NextdoorHomestead Yeah they for sure are. My mom put some in my oregano pot and by the time I noticed it was already too late, I kind of let the two run their course and it became a faction war between the two. A combination of a really bad frost storm and I imagine the both of them fighting for root space and nutrients really killed back the bunch. So I pretty much dug out as much as I could, planted a new set of oregano and left what I 100% verified to be oregano n remove whatever peppermint stragglers that I managed to miss. By the end I hope the oregano just outcompetes the peppermint with my assistance and I can finally have my oregano pot back lol.
We live in a forested area and are shaded on all sides- we only get about 4hrs of sun in the main part of our garden. I can reliably grow indeterminate tomatoes, hot peppers, broccoli, kale, romaine and butter crunch lettuces (I just leave it to go to seed and it comes up in its own each year), ground cherries (these also self sow) and garlic, asparagus and strawberries. And so many herbs do well in shade- chives, thyme, oregano, lovage, sage, self sown cilantro and dill… and basil in containers
I have good deal of shade in my Northern Michigan garden. I found that Swiss Chard Bright Lights did incredibly well in medium shade, and was a gorgeous addition of color lining my paths. Can't wait to try some of your tips!
That's awesome - I personally *love* swiss chard and have lots growing =). I mostly just go with the rainbow mix, but I think that ends next year. I want to find some specific varieties and narrow it down to the best.
Anyhow, hope the tips help!
Ditto on this! I live in southern Michigan and swiss chard (Bright Lights mix, and Fordhook Giant) does very well in lower light areas!
I'm in 6b and cucumbers do alright in partial shade. They thrive on neglect once established.
Thanks for sharing! I think a few other commenters have said the same thing - sounds like a good experiment =)
Awww, you have a Rhodesian Ridgeback! I've had several over the years. Best dogs ever ❤
BEST DOGS EVER =)
Agree on the blueberries….we have a much cooler, mostly shade spot of the yard, and potted blueberries have grown fine there, even with imperfectly acidified soil.
I attended a seed exchange event in my community the other day (it was so much fun and an amazing way to make sure extra seeds don't go to waste and try new varieties!) Anyway, they had a short presentation on seed saving and talked about how if you save from plants that do particularly well in the conditions you're looking for, within a couple generations you'll have plants that are more suited to those conditions. Have you experienced anything like this? I'm thinking of trying to do that for plants I'm trying to grow in my shady back yard.
That sounds like a blast! I haven't personally done any sort of landracing attempts but I think it's only a matter of time. I'm not huge on seed saving normally but I think if done with a goal of creating a line that's hyper-adapted to your microclimate, it could be really fun =)
Alpine strawberries and thimble berries are the only two fruits I know of that grow in shade. Thimble berries are dreadfully susceptible to spider mites.
Woah, cool! Thanks for the tip on thimbleberries; those are new to me. So many cool plants in the Rubus genus =)
In defense of the ornamental grass, bunching grasses are good nesting locations for ground beetles, which eat garden pests. So if you can't grow food there, you can use the area to grow support plants for your garden.
I love that, thank you Carson. It's hard sometimes to give up productive (in terms of food production) space but it's nice to find other ways to benefit your own little ecosystem =)
Yes, "support plants" is a good description! Think native plants to attract pollinators etc 😊
Thank you! Great to finally find a cold region/shade gardening channel.
While my garden isn't strictly all shade, it is a north facing garden in Scotland, and few are the days when it isn't overcast.
I am delighted to see a tomato growing in such conditions - when, for the past 20 years, I have been unable to get more than 3-4 tomatoes total, regardless of all the tips and tricks I've ferreted out of the internet. Nothing's worked and this is the first year I've finally given up.
So I am definitely going to try and track down some black tomato seed!
Might I suggest - I have blackcurrants and redcurrants fruiting reasonably well under the dense shade of an ancient hazelnut tree, gooseberries fruiting sufficiently under the denser shade of a large goat willow, and many raspberries will tolerate a bit of shade too.
Also, in the perennial vegetable bracket - Red-Veined Sorrel works for me (in leaf right now. In fact, there have been a few leaves throughout the winter).
Alchemilla mollis will happily produce mountains of edible leaves wherever you plant it. It does best in sun, but a bit of shade will keep it that little bit more manageable. An acquired taste, some people don't like the very slight fur on the leaf surface in a salad, but if you chop it up well with other leaves or use them like spinach to pad out a stew, they're fine.
Last year, I planted an Ostrich Fern in a mostly shady place. It's quite small at the moment, but I hear these 'Fiddleheads' are very popular in California at least.
My Marjoram plants have had a crown of tiny leaves in the centre all winter just like the mint, so that's another one to try. I'm currently dividing mine up to try in the wilder permaculture garden, see how they fare among other, larger plants.
Some Hostas are edible. I'm unsure exactly which ones, but I have 'Bressingham Blue' in my garden. It's more green than blue, but I'm limited to what I can grow because I have a ton of slugs and snails, this is a slug-proof variety and slug-proof Hostas are as rare as hen's teeth.
I'll have to give carrots another go. I think that my habit of a Spring sowing is what's producing poor results. Evidently, they need that extra few months.
Good luck with the channel.
Thank you kindly Debbie! If you've long struggled to get tomatoes to fruit, might I suggest going even more extreme and trying to grow a parthenocarpic variety? Something like 'Oregon Star' or 'Oregon Spring'? They don't require pollination at all to set fruit and were bred as such to give harvests in the very low sun conditions of the Pacific Northwest coast. Just an idea!
And I LOVE red-veined sorrel. I've got 36 of 'em waiting to plant out right now actually =)
We're growing Jostaberry (a currant / gooseberry hybrid) which likes to be out of our harsh sun but I will definitely look out for some standard currant bushes too!
And thank you for the tip on the Hosta variety! A local nursery owner told me about the slug issue around here, I didn't know there were resistant varieties.
Cheers!
North West England... Tiny 'garden' n mostly in shade a little light only during a sunny summer 😂😂😂!! (we mainly have cloudy wet skies even in summer).
Agree red veined sorrel, however crop very tiny compared to any sun areas. N brambles... Few raspberries if can grow tall enough. Everything else just dies off chives!! Everything. strawberries grow but no fruit so use it to prpergate runners.
2 Parsley plants did well for a few months then died, replanted but they died. So annoying such limited space n little grows. Tomatoes, carrots all others mentioned just failed. 😢
@@SamSung-fp2vj Sorry Sam, that sounds incredibly frustrating. Can I ask what the traditional crops of the area were/are?
No idea. A field would have more access to Sun etc... With tiny town 'spaces ' 'gardens' extra challenges. Little space, light, cold, soggy. Too many summers a wash out. Not able to even dry washing outside.
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I have a thing for gardeners that smile in their thumbnails in such a way that lets me know that they love gardening as much as I do :)
That’s how Jess from Roots and refuge got me. Her thumbnails are so joyful and jolly!
Welcome to the channel!!! =)
I think looking for people who love gardening is a pretty great rubric^^
I'll have to check out Roots and Refuge!
Nasturtium really needs to be added to this list. Grows in full shade, through mild winters. Is both food and medicine. Grow extremely easy even in depleted soil. And It’s so pretty
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Ok, I have to admit I have bad luck with nasturtiums! I am giving them another shot right now though - they're in some trays (hopefully germinating).
I didn't know they were edible, thank you for the tip!
Nasturtium seeds (if your plants set seed) may also be pickled like capers, which they sort of taste like. I missed the boat to start my own here this year (northern Gulf of Mexico Coast zone 8b).
I may buy some locally grown potted nasturtiums this spring to hang in shade (little mom & pop growers are less likely to treat their plants with neonicotinoid systemic poisons like some of the big box stores use on their "ornamental" plants). I like hanging baskets of beautiful trailing nastutiums in shade to add some peppery bite to my salads with their leaves and flowers, and maybe even get enough seeds to save a few for next fall and pickle the rest. Fairly heavy shade gives them more of a growing season in the heat here.
This is my first year growing Nasturtiums and I’m so excited to see them flower. My daughter is dying to be able to eat flowers!😂
Nasturtium grows like a weed here in the San Francisco Bay area but I don't think it likes the heat where he lives
@@wardsdotnetyou are right - nasturtium does NOT like the heat. It is mainly a late fall/winter/early spring plant here on the northern Gulf Coast. (Deep South zone 8b) It gives up and dies when summer's heat comes on in April/May.
Cilantro is like that too.
Hello! I just find your channel and I love it! Gardening was such an important part of my recovery from depression and anxiety ♥️ Now it's lovely to watch content creators like you talk about plants, nature and gardening with so much love and passion. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I don't know a lot about plants that thrive on shade so this is perfect! I would absolutely love to do Spanish subtitles for this video for free, so I can share it with friends and family! If that's something you'd be interested in, please let me know 🌿
Hi Rosario! Thank you so much for this lovely comment, it just brings such a smile to my face. Truly.
I would absolutely love to have Spanish subtitles, that sounds wonderful. Emberrasingly, I've never added subtitles to a video and will need to learn how!
If it is really something you are interested in doing, let me know - my email is on the About page for the channel =)
I'm excited! My growing areas are partial sun thanks to mature trees throwing shade. Also a plus, I'm in Zone 9! Very cool!
Looking forward to more videos 🌻
So glad you enjoyed it Nancy! Definitely got more videos to come 😁
Edible shade flowers & "weeds".
Eg: Nasturtium. Violets. Dandelions. Nettles. Paint reflective walls matte white, it'll improve reflective sunlight. KiaOra from New Zealand.
I love edible flowers! Definitely a world I'd like to learn more about.
Thanks for sharing your ideas =)
@@NextdoorHomestead
I really like your food garden ideas for marginal land! 🙂 Carrots and winter rye have an antifreeze protein. Red (Pakistani) carrots do well in the winter season. 🥕
violets are great in shade as groundcover - and not only the flowers are edible, the leaves, too. Almost all year round - I'm in Germany Zone 7b-ish, so in zone 9 they might be awesome in winter, too.
@@MartinaSchoppe
Hello Martina. My Grandma taught me how to make crystallised flowers. Sweets & cake decorations. They're gorgeous! Candied or crystallized flowers add a delicate floral flavor and a beautiful appearance. Do take care though, not all flowers are edible.
Here are the ones I commonly use: hibiscus, shrinking violets, lavender, primroses, roses, borage, jasmine, violas, nasturtiums, cornflowers, sage, thyme flowers.
🌹🌺 Process:
Pick the flowers on a dry, sunny day when they are fully open. Remove the stalks. Pour a lightly beaten (but not frothy) egg white into a saucer. Have another saucer of caster sugar beside it.
Using tweezers, dip the flower heads or petals first into the egg white and then into the sugar. Use a fine paintbrush to tease the sugar into any crinkles and hollows within the flower.
Shake off any excess sugar before laying the flowers on a sheet of baking parchment. Place in a warm, dry and airy spot to dry for 24-48 hours.
When fully dry, store the crystallised flowers carefully between layers of baking parchment or greaseproof paper in an airtight container. This extends their life and preserves them for up to a year.
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@@MartinaSchoppe I just *love* johnny jump ups (viola tricolor). We've actually got a couple dozen germinating in the garage right now and some volunteers popping up in the vegetable garden.
I think they are the prettiest edible flower out there.
I tried growing them in our cool seasons last year as some folks seem to have success with it but they couldn't handle it unfortunately =(
Thanks for the video. I will have to give carrots and Tomatillos a chance in my more shaded area. I have at least 20 oaks plus numerous other tress so I have very little sunny areas in my yard,
Oh oak shade is serious. I would definitely give carrots a go.
Try Perilla in the shade. I think it would do great and it’s full of benefits. Perilla grows wild and plentiful deep in the forest behind my house where there is no sun light due to the thick trees and brush.
I've heard that about carrots. If there grown in the colder environment they tend to be sweeter
Thanks for the video. Learn something new every day
Certainly true of some leafy greens too! Always a nice perk of Winter =)
Thank you for watching - so glad it was informational!
I love your enthusiasm! Gardening makes me excited too :)
THANK YOU! ;)
I think it all sort of comes out as we approach spring!
Arugla is known in the UK as 'rocket'. Mache greens are known as 'lamb's lettuce'.
Woah, I didn't know that about mache! Thank you very much =)
@@NextdoorHomestead Mâche is the French name.
It's "roquette" in french as well
Excellent information 👌 thanks buddy😊
You are so welcome! Hope your shady spots thrive this year =)
A bit shady video, if you ask me. But I thoroughly loved it!
A whole shady channel if you ask me!
Thank you so much for watching =)
Im in zone 7a/b, NWArkansas. We tend to be very hot in summer, i.e. 90-100. Some years worse than others. I see youre in zone 9. Is that Southern California? Florida?
Hello there! I actually had no idea NW Arkansas was quite that warm in Summer. I've always wanted to visit the Fayetteville area.
Anyhow, my sincere apologies, but my family and I've decided not to share out our location. We're a dry, long, hot summer climate though!
Happy gardening =)
Glad I found you. You get a sub too😊😊!! How do you afford all the soil for bigger containers? Found some in my garden shed from previous owners, but am completely dismayed by how much soil to use them, even coco coir is expensive now. 1 brick fills maybe 1/2 of one of my containers. Good grief...
Thanks so much Jean - so glad you enjoyed our video =)
I think the price of potting mix is utterly absurd and a real problem. It's pricing people out of gardening. The way that I afford it is by making lots of compromises and patiently waiting for sales.
So for instance, with our most recent round of containers, I waited until Home Depot had a sale on "in ground" soil for $2 a bag and I mixed that with cheep aged steer manure and wood chips we got for free from an arborist. We then add in very affordable (but very good) Espoma garden tone fertilizer and perlite I bought for a fraction of the cost during the offseason. We've experimented A LOT with different approaches to mixing our own potting soil to get to a point where we can do it affordably.
If that's too much effort, Walmart had a very good price on Promix Potting soil recently which is very good.
Seconding lemonbalm. It's the only plant that lives in the shadiest spot under the deck. Also survived 15F frost and 115F summer.
None of the mint types survived
Now that's a swing! We get that high but not that low 0_o
@NextdoorHomestead yes, it's hard to find edible non-tree perenials with these temps for a small urban garden. But at least I have a variety of sun/shade levels to work with.
Man. ... That was suspense with them carrots. ... I started sweatin durin second question.
Gotta keep everybody on their toes ;)
Wasabi Japonica grows fine in the shade here, in the Netherlands. Keep it out of the sun, use big pots. Had some frost, didn't mind it at all. Full summer sun kills it.
O wow what an awesome idea. Love love love this. Will have to try and find some.
Weird that certain things like blueberries can be particular to grow yet find them in woods type area with no attention at all, just nature 🙄
Sigh, it's so true! Folks from the right climates and ecosystems would laugh at how much effort I have to go through to grow blueberries. I suppose that's the price we pay to get so much variety in our home gardens =)
Blueberry grow well in acidic soils, so in damp forests with water saturated soil nearby, boggy areas, with plenty of leaf and vegetation matter rotting in those damp soils.
So, I like your knowledge an presentations, a TH-camr tip for you ( and I would not offer it except for personal experience,) try pulling back your hair into a ponytail for a couple months. I think you would look more professional and get more views. Just sayin.
Heya! Thank you for the tip and your feedback =)
Thanks for the suggestions! Looking forward to getting some of these plants into my garden this year. I’ve been trying to figure out my shady areas for two years now! Hoping I can fill my beds this year🙂.
No problem! Lots of experimentation is definitely the key. We're trying a variety of alliums and some more greens in these shady spots to try and expand our list =)
Best of luck!
non edible but flowering, my begonias and hollyhock thrive in shade with irregular watering. Full blooms almost year round in full shade 9b. My hollyhock gave me a 4 foot spike of big pink flowers in January with nothing but dappled light. My begonias bloom in full shade. Smaller butterflies and bigger moths seem to settle in them, especially when the bees take over stuff like the bottlebrush tree.
Well yeesh I'm convinced. I wanted to plant hollyhock anyhow and I'm not sure why we don't have begonias already =)
Thank you for the tips - these sound *perfect* for what I need actually. Good weekend project!
In USA's "growing zones system" 9 is subtropical bordering tropical?
I live in a northern temperate coastal climate and want to be sure how to relate to your advice.
It can be but ours is not! We have extremely hot, dry, arid, long summers here and cool, moderate winters.
Cheers!
No sun in my garden from October-April. It’s painful!
I am so there with you. My main garden veggies are starving for light
Technically not a veggie, but mushrooms love shade.
Do you grow your own? Any tips on where to get knowledgeable about it?
Does rhubarb grow well in a hot climate? Mine grows in the deepest, darkest, coldest corner of my garden and it is thriving. But I live in temperate climate.
It's generally harder to grow in hot climates! I'm not a huge rhubarb person but it does sound fun to try sticking it in a shady corner somewhere... =)
Great information. Would you please do edible plants, herbs that like shallow rocky soil in shade.
Hmmm, I can definitely speak to plants that tolerate clay soil but I don't have much in the way of issues with rocks or shallow soil. I wouldn't want to give bad advice on that context!
I find that I can grow anything in partial sun…or what I call morning till noon and delay some growth that way. I have tomatoes/dill in both full and partial..in full sun I have more growth and fruit, in partial sun my dill has not gone to seed and less tomatoes.
Keep making your professional videos
If I can get a few weeks of dill production this year, I'll be a happy camper! Ours seems to go to seed if you look at it funny =)
Thank you for the encouragement Jason! Means the world to us.
Maybe it's a Dutch thing, but we love our Frisee Andive, raw and cooked. great video, I've moved and have more shade now so I was looking for inspiration
That's awesome! I don't see it here much except as a small bit in a mix or even as a garnish =/
I'm so glad it was helpful! Best of luck with the new shady spots =)
I click the like button and subscribe too 😏I live in Minneapolis and we are still in 40s in 2 of may ! Too cold to plant anything and for me to go out ( I am skinny 76 years old lady )
During the day?! I hope Summer comes quickly for you =) I don't like to garden in the cold much either...
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I have a shady part of my backyard due to a neighbors fence. I planted mint there. I wanted it to spread and provide grown cover to the area. The first year it started spreading nicely but the next year it was nowhere. Gone. Im disappointed.
I planted a number of trees to provide shade to my house. Saves on AC in our sauna like summers. But they must be deciduous so they dont provide shade in the winter. Then the sun is good. Hardly used any heaters this past winter.
Sounds lovely! We have something similar with Ash trees but they get a bit *too* shady for my taste in summer. I wish I could grow more under them =)
Solid video! Can I throw out the suggestion to add timestamps per plant? Makes it so much easier to come back and find info
Inland empire So. Cal. almost everything could use some shade. In other words many things cook in summer heat. I move some containers with the season to extend growth
Yeah, the equation certainly changes to favor a bit of shade later in the year. Unfortunately a lot of our garden still gets few hours of direct light even when it's in the triple digits.
Thank you. Just a heads up that for some of us it’s tough to hear what someone is saying if the background music is too loud. 🙂
Ah, sorry Lida! You're definitely not the first to say so. I love having a little music but clearly need to work on getting the volume levels right!
Thank you for watching!
Sending gratitude from a Daoist monastery near Seattle (USA)!
Thanks John - we really appreciate that =)
I so am enjoying your thoughtful and encouraging videos!! I grew spinach plants this winter(Georgia) on a south wall in big pots. Had a good continuous crop. My arugula did not do well….except for one plant. I forgot to mulch or didn’t have mulch back then. We had a 9 degree night back in December which was so brrrr cold…..for Atlanta, Georgia!! Please continue to send your videos out…..to us. I am subscribed! Because I have a north front…..my south side is a little….unpredictable….in summer. Tree canopy overgrowth is an issue also in the south side back yard. So I am listening closely to your….advice. So grateful for your videos!! Ahna
Thank you for the kind words and for checking out our channel Ahna!
Growing on a South wall of a home seems like you did everything right 😁. Sometimes nature just wins. I just went to check my lettuce and at least ten of my seedlings were eaten to nubs!
I've got so much gardening and videos planned for this year, I can't wait to share!
I hope your Spring garden grows beautifully.
Cheers,
😂…also,no….😂
I grow small tomatoes under palm trees, so they get dappled sun at best. Sweet 100 have done well, but now I’m going to try the black cherry, too! Thanks!
Haha part of the shade in my garden is from a palm! So we actually grow super sweet 100s, and I love them, but for us the black cherries were better producers in the shade. I hope they work for you!
@@NextdoorHomestead Such colorful imagery!- 'Dappled Sun"!! I grow under shade cloth- My dappled shade cloth!!! hehee.
At my place The cucumbers under 40% shade cloth did much better than the cucumbers that were in full sun.
I've heard this from a few folks and am experimenting with some shade cukes this year. Thanks for sharing your experiences - very helpful!
Nice tips. I also have a lot of shade in my garden. I have a few strips of full sun though. My full sun is mostly a thin strip against the fence line and a couple other areas.
Haha a "few strips of full sun" sounds very familiar! We do what we can ;)
Thank you for watching - I'm glad you liked the tips!
I'm already planning to try planting carrots and blueberries this year but I hadn't thought of mint. I think I'll have to try that too
It's one of my favorite things to grow period! My only advice is don't give up on it too fast - it takes its time and then *explodes* and plant it in a container =)
Best of luck with the garden this year!
I did arugula in my half day sun, planter garden alongside spinach. The spinach bolted instantly, probably due to being sprouted in full sun, then thinking the season was ending with only partial sun, but the arugula has done pretty well with sun until only around noon.
Spinach is so funny that way! It doesn't just need to be the right conditions, it needs to be *consistent* too or it freaks out that things are changing. I find it a relatively challenging green!
Parts of my garden are overrun with lemon balm and I do nothing to help it. It grows in poor soil with no water during our drought summers, it spreads and will take over that garden space and out compete even other mints.
Ours are all in containers but it sure does spread fast. One difference vs. peppermint (in my experience) is it establishes better in season one instead of waiting for season two to explode.
I predict you’ll be at 1 million subscribers by next spring. And I love how you snuck in the “y’all “!!
Haha thank you for the encouragement! It's just nice to have folks watching and commenting and engaging. What a blast =)
Tomatillos do okay with less sun and lower temperatures and fail less . My Swedish grown tomatillos taste as good as they do grown in hotter weather, my Swedish tomatoes are not that tasty. I have had lovely looking tomatoes setting on, and then it turns off cold and wet and then 😢😥
They're really quite adaptable aren't they? Thanks for sharing your experience growing in Sweden!
What are a few perennial herbs that smell really good that are shade tolerate?
I'm in zone 8a.
Hey Carl! When it comes to perennials, I think you have some leeway =). They may not grow as fast or as large but most will still grow in partial shade (full shade may be another matter - I'd go with mint in that case).
So that said, the perennial herbs I think smell the most wonderful in the garden are anise hyssop, lavender, mexican mint marigold, and lemon verbena. I hope others throw in their suggestions too! It's a great question.
I bought a townhouse that gets no direct sun... This is perfect for my homestead!
Yay! I hope you have an awesome, productive garden this year =)
Here's to growing lots of food in small places!
Well i think i figured out why my lemon blam died. Like you i watered it to much
Frustrating! Got another one to replace it with yet?
Where are you located I’m in south florida
Heya! We've decided not to share our specific location - I hope you understand =). We do have a blurb about our growing climate on the About page though =)
I've spent a bit of time gardening in South Florida and it's definitely a very different experience. I have low humidity and much less precipitation and our Springs take quite a lot longer to really warm up (especially at night). I miss the biodiversity of south Florida a lot!
Just discovered and subscribed to your channel. Great infos, can't wait to see more!
Thanks so much Davann! Lots more gardening and gardenin' videos to come ;)
Cheers!
i just found you so this is the first video of yours i have seen, forgive me if you mentioned these elsewhere...
a number of plants we think of as "purely ornamental" are in fact edible. now they may not be your first choice! but... Hosta, is in fact edible, although it upsets some folks digestion. also Ostrich fern fronts (fiddle heads) and ramps... and if you have a "pure shade" and want something fun? get a mushroom plug and a nice log....
What awesome additions! I actually had no idea hosta was edible, I've stayed away from growing it in our shady sitting area because it's toxic to dogs. I just kind of assumed it was inedible for us as well!
Nice idea of "just getting a log, drilling holes and see where's that takes you". :)
I'm fond of ornamental plants that are also edible .. Hostas, Day Lily, Canna Lily, Fern (not all are edible, make sure you know what you have) Dahlias just to name a few. Grow food right under the noses of the HOA! 😁
@@Green.Country.Agroforestry Not only that but you can coexists them too with actual food crops if that's an option to you. :)
@@NextdoorHomestead … the shoots supposedly taste similar to asparagus … 👌🏻
Commenting as I watch.
Arugula is Rocket here, and yes, ours prefer shade due to how harsh our sun can be here. We get better yield and softer flavour through autumn/winter. in spring it gets very bitter, and bolts towards the end.
Endive: I don't even know what this is, but sounds like it would suit our half and half spots.
Carrot: yeah, we grew our last lot in mostly shade. It was fine we just had to be careful with water retention.
Corn salad: never heard of it, but cool. Our lettuce does good in pretty much full shade.
Tomatos: All year crop for us. Our cherries all do well in shade.
Tomatillos: haven't tried yet.
Pole bean: have only done snow peas. So a bit different, but they do so good in mostly shade and ours got over 6ft lol.
Mint: Only mint that we've managed to grow is cat mint, but it is thriving and in the shade.
Blueberries: have just died. Everytime.
Lemonbalm: something in my garden adore lemon balm so it gets eaten before I ever get usable lol. But yes, we get good sprouting with shade.
Japanese grass: cool.
Some additions we've had luck with in shade:
Lemongrass
Monsteria deliciousa
Dragonfruit
Corn & sorghum & wheat surprisingly
Amaranth is fantastic in shade. Maybe not full shade, but majority of the day is fine.
Malabar spinach. It grows well in sun or shade. Depending on your climate.
Anyway, you're an awesome creator. Glad you came up in my rec!
Oh and I'm in QLD Australia
What?! This is just such a tremendous comment. Hahaha, I'm so stoked reading someone else's experience with all these.
- You should 100% try tomatillos they are the best
- my next video is on blueberries actually - they are totally fussy
- Malabar is maybe a top 5 plant for me. I'm so excited to make a video on it this year and hopefully spread the word ;)
Thank you so much for the kind words. Really appreciate it!
@@NextdoorHomestead Look forward to the blueberry stuff then! Pretty much any "speciality" types I'd have to buy from seed tho, as our local nurseries don't stock the best options.
And yes, once I get my hands on some tomatillo seeds I will definitely see how they go. They look similar to Cape gooseberries so hopefully grow just as well here.
We also rely solely on rain water on our property so experimenting with shade has been incredibly important over the past 6 years that we've been on this property, because as you found out, shade makes for less evaporation.
Having said that, I'm having some really good success with sunken terracotta pot watering systems now so it's not as important. I have invested in some shade cloth tho for when summer comes back.
I love growing arugula! I eat it in sandwiches almost every day
I've really grown to enjoy it more and more. So good for multiple cuts.
I bet you are very healthy & happy 😊
Arugula is a gem 💎 indeed.
You ever end up clicking analyze?
Never did. Just not my style.
Can someone explain to me why I see it with Spanish subtitles?
Other videos get German dub for no apparent reason.
TH-cam is a huge mess right now!
Why can't I see the videos as is?
I tried to switch off subtitles, but they keep coming back and the settings don't change anything.
It's probably my mistake honestly! This is the only video where I manually added subtitles (generously created by a viewer - thank you!!!!) and I probably didn't do it correctly. I'll go double-check the video's subtitle settings =)
Cheers!
@@NextdoorHomestead OK. Thanks.
I'm particularly frustrated when I click on a video with English title and then don't hear English. I speak German, but the translations I get are usually atrocious.
I don't mind subs or dubs, far from it, but I don't want them forced upon me.
Great looking hound, is there some Plott in him?
Thank you! He is pretty darn handsome ;)
Just straight Rhodesian Ridgeback. Total goofball.
I definitely got the like AND SUBSCRIBE
Lemon Balm is verry aggressive and will push out all the rest of your mint. I might be tempted to overwater to get rid of some of it!
So true! When it gets going it GROWS. I love it, but always in its own space or own pot.
I encouragee.in balm. My ground is clay. Like terracotta on the potters wheel clay clay. The only things successfully growing in it are weedy plantain, clover, and dandelions. And prickly vines. The lemon balm give me a bit of joy to those warzone looking areas. It's not very aggressive against my weeds and soil but it is taking a few spots. I also plan to get some catnip going so it can acclimate and propagate. Besides indulging myself of catnip tea, and getting my cats high, I need some naturL deterrent for the horrible mosquito population, and catnip'll do the trick fo me and the cats. Grab a few fresh leaves, crush them in your hands and apply to any exposed skin and you'll avoid mosquito attention for at least half an hour if not longer. Look it up. I kid you not. Forget expensive citronella geraniums and oils and coils, and deet sprays, catnip has been doing it this whole time. It even works with the essential oil, but don't use that on or near the cats, because of concentration toxicity of essential oils and cats' livers. Even when I dilute it super weak, it still works and my cats want to run. Everything. I used catnip spray around my doorway and screen and it reduced the number of skeeters hanging around to sneak in.
So Lemon Balm and Catnip are the two mints I HOPE will spread throughout my yarden.
Lovely video! I think one of the things about carrots is that if you plant them in a really shady spot early in the season, the soil will be too cold for them to germinate. At least that's my butter experience anyway!
I'm so excited to watch through your videos! You've got such a distinct color grade going on. Can't wait to actually get into the gardening bit.
And yeah, I can totally see that being an issue. My carrot germination strategy is very similar to my flower and herb germination strategy.... sow an insane number of seeds and don't worry at all about the germ rate =). It, uh, works for me!
Do you think that the amount of cloudy days a biome experiences, in which the light is more evenly diffused, can have a dramatic effect on plants in shady areas? I have been wondering this for a while.
Hmmm, I can say that I've noticed *everything* grows at a snails pace when we get extended cloudy periods but even the shade plants grow well (within reason) on sunny days. Purely my observation though!
@@NextdoorHomesteadThank you for responding. I appreciate your take.
There you go I hit the like button🎉 good video🎉
Thank you Margaret! So glad you enjoyed it =)
this is a non-vege, but for the darkest corner with literal 100% shade, oyster mushroom is perfect to grow in a bucket. Just remember to cover with a clear plastic garbage bag so that it wont dry out
I wish I knew enough about growing mushrooms to recommend them! One day =)
Enjoyed your video. I also have grown black cherry tomatoes and many family members Enjoyed them...myself included. I have seedlings going at the moment..along with some other varieties. Will check out your tomatillo video as I did not have success last year. Thank you for sharing the information. Greetings from Zone 10...South Florida.
Greetings Sonia! Thanks so much for watching =)
I have become a bit of a proponent for tomatillos - they can be a really good safeguard when the tomatoes and peppers don't want to grow!
I would add hostas. They are part of the asparagus family and are similarly edible, and are grown in Asia as an edible instead of a decorative. Hostas can do well in as little as 3 hours of sunlight. They are easier to propagate and transplant than asparagus, and they don't take as long to get established.
Thank you! I'm picking some up next week =) Any particular variety you like?
@@NextdoorHomestead I don't know if there's a difference in how they taste, and blanching may be required to make the mature leaves palatable. However, I think we have the whirlwind, the one with the white stripe, and the halcyon, or whichever is the small standard green one.
I’d add bush beans to the list. I’ve done great with bush beans with only 4 hours of direct sun while I need more like 6 hours for pole beans. I’d also look at peppers for locations that get only morning sun if you live in hot climates (this helps avoid sun scald.) Finally, you mentioned limited blueberry varieties due to heat. Check out Rabbiteye blueberry varieties. These grow in the southern US (Georgia to Texas) and handle intense heat just fine. There are lots varieties.
You know, I need to look into Rabbiteyes more. They're not easy to come by around me and it's a truism here that only southern highbush will work. Thanks for the reminder!
And yeah, I agree with you re: bush beans. I've had better luck with pole beans due to their growth habits but Provider bush beans seem to do well enough in just about any context.
@@NextdoorHomestead if you do go with a rabbiteye, it’s recommended to get at least two different varieties that blossom at the same time. The cross pollination yields substantially more fruit.
Sorry for the late reply Elliot - for some reason your comment was flagged for review automatically. I have absolutely no idea why.
I'm definitely going to ask around and see if I can find some to try out.
Oh, golly, lemon balm can be invasive
Good note - thanks! Stick it in a planter or pot =)
Thank you for sharing this information. Going to be handy for my tiny garden with the house at my east, and a big 8ft wall at my west! Not idea but glad to hear the mizuna and rocket (arugala) should be ok.
dandelion is the best salad ever
Do you actively cultivate a patch or just harvest the wild growth? I'm very curious!
@@NextdoorHomestead No I don't, but perhaps I should give it a try once more. When I was a schoolkid, my brother and I used to wander the ploughed fields from last fall right about this time of the year. We each had a "wallpaper knife" a long, thin, but dull piece of metal with a handle. What you're looking for is the yellow leaves of dandelion that got dug under and is peeking through the ground. We used to bring home three or four plastic shopping bags and mom would clean it and make a dressing from just vinegar, oil, salt pepper and sour cream. We'd sit at the dining table and munch the salad down like a bunch of cattle. Something in the way the farmers are working their crops changed sometime in the eighties. No one plants potatoes anymore where I live and the same goes for sugar beets a farmer explained to me. Anyway, the fields were already "raked even" and if there were any dandelion, they'd be spread out flat on the ground which makes it green and bitter (or maybe Roundup did its "magic" lol). My father tried to grow dandelion in our garden and put dirt around the dandelion like you would do with potatoes. He also put black buckets over the plants and we had some beautiful results, but it took lots of effort and it just wasn't a whole lot. On the rare occasions you see dandelion being sold, you pay an arm and a leg. In our local slang, dandelion at this stage is called "Bettsäächer" which literally translates to "bed pisser". I think it is because of its diuretic properties. Sorry for the long story you didn't really ask for. To put this into a time perspective - I recently turned 59. People nowadays consider bed pisser salad rabbit food. Greetings from Germany.
Why are you wearing a coat if you live in zone 9? I am zone 5 and just pulled weeds in a T-shirt… it’s 36F today. 😅
Coat stays on until we're in the 80s! ;)
Hehe. Hi Samantha, you sound like you're in Wisconsin. I'm in Madison, now getting weather in 40's. Been skipping my sweater too. Haha. Yes, he's in the south. Tho I'm not sure where. Was in Atlanta a few years ago, it was mid 40's, I wore a sweater, but saw a kid with full parka with hood up! Plants may be tolerant, but folks are not necessarily tolerant to cooler weather in the South. Hehe.
I live in zone 8b and anytime I've grown carrots in the shade, my harvest ends up being full of tiny little 2 inch nub carrots. This has happened to both my Danver carrots and red chantonnay carrots. So def not recommending carrots in shade if you live in the Western Washington state area. Maybe it works in yours though.
Western Washington checking in!
Lemon balm is a great deer deterrent!
I had no idea of that. Thanks for the tip! Now if I can just find a plant the turkeys hate...
Dude... shade garden is not 4 hours ( in my winter garden is less than 2 hours.)and literally nothing apart from potatoes and beet leaves didn't grow...
I wish I could get of board with lemon balm but it just reminds me of when I used to clean houses in high school and used lemon Pledge🙄
I.... uh... can imagine that yeah. I happen to like the smell of Pledge 0_o
This a good video :) the people complaining want all the information in one place and obviously don’t want to do their own research. Your doing great. Thanks for the tips.
Thank you so much Flora! Love the encouragement =)
I agree. They can easily google the hardiness zones of the plants they're interested in. Takes seconds.
Good stuff...thumbs up and subbed
Appreciate that! Thanks for joining up =)
If u have cats ive found cat grass is damn near impossible to mess up! Unless your cats are like mine and its a battle keeping them away from it lmfao
I've never grown it! Would you consider it ornamental?
@@NextdoorHomestead yes! I like to keep it on my window sills for a touch of green in the house, does well indoors!
Black cherry is one of my struggling garden's clear winners, is successful on spite of all the challenges and taste amazing, thanks i will try one in the shady planter this year.
It's amazing how many folks seem to be saying it's lovely in their garden too! Seems like this needs to become a more popular option at the nurseries!
if you're in the south and looking for a shade tolerant fruit tree, you might want to consider a pawpaw
Thanks for sharing! I wonder if I could get one to grow in a container in the shade here... might be fun =)
I don't know how well they will take to containers as I live too far north for them (Ontario) but I recall that Pawpaws are a secondary woodland tree, growing in the under-story in partial shade around other trees; likely it will want a lot of compost and rotted leaf litter but I'm sure there are other channels on here that can give you advice on commercial breeds (only just now becoming available to the gardener) and advice on planting and care
i have a blueberry i planted in my garden last year i think and so far it didnt produce much fruits yet, but this year i really tried to give my plants a good environment and hope it manages to give some berries
Good luck! I'm rooting for you and those blueberries =)
I've generally found that even borderline bushes will give some berries so I think you've got a good chance at it!
@@NextdoorHomestead thank you! I'll give my best!