I TESTED growing Garlic at 3 different depths and here are the results!
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- I've got MORE EXPERIMENT RESULTS to help you in the garden - this time specific to Garlic! I've been particularly interested in what the best depth is to grow garlic at. So, this past year I planted Garlic at three distinct depths: 0" deep, 4" deep, and 7" deep. I kept every variable the exact same and, well, I can rest easy now knowing the best option!! Check out the video to see the full results and Happy gardening!
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I hate to burst your bubble, but the garlic planted at 4"was also in the CENTER of the bed where the best moisture is. The garlic on either side suffered from "edge effect". You need to repeat with each depth getting the center row.
Meanie 😂
That's nit picking I'm willing to bet he waters em well ❤️🩹
This definitely might contribute to the results, but then again this video wasn't meant to be a super detailed experiment.
I have noted the edge effect in my raised beds myself. I assumed it was more to do with winter temperatures than watering.
Proba ly also warmer in the middle of the bed
Good to know that garlic is forgiving and will work great no matter what.
That's not really true. The soil, moisture level and variety are super important. ...buy yeah, the depth doesn't matter too much.
@@hogue3666 yeah, this guy is giving you a completely false concept of what garlic is. It is very finicky. Garlic requires consistent moisture, temperature, and weed free growing environment or else you’re not not gonna get much of a harvest at all.
Thankyou
Thank you. I can honestly say that I've grown Elephant garlic and your test was very noble. I'm afraid they could be right about the "edge/border" groups. However, this was awesome bc sustainability and self sufficient gardens need results like these to help all of us win and better understand out food and growing better.
Kudos to you man. 👏 👌💪🏽
Thanks for getting right to the point without a 30 minute intro! Growing garlic is my fave. I’ll stick to 4”. Thanks for the test.
Right to the point? It took him 8 minutes to blather his way to the results when all he needed was one screenshot of the graph at 8:04. He even used stall phrases like _lets dive right in_ and _I'm going to _____ at least 3 times. This video could be edited down to 45 seconds without losing a single word of useful and relevant information.
@@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394 Yes and it really annoys me when people waste time talking about what they THINK is going to happen like at 2:48, why not just get on with it and show us what actually happened? I mean fair enough if you're discussing things in more detail after you've given us the answer, but when you're waiting to find out what the answer is the delaying tactics are just frustrating. If that graph was given up front and then the rest of the video was spent explaining it, it wouldn't have been anywhere near as annoying.
@@Berkeloid0
*" it really annoys me when people waste time talking about what they THINK is going to happen like at **2:48**, why not just get on with it and show us what actually happened?"*
Oh come on, you need to be kept in suspense so that you could have time to finish your popcorn.
I plant mine shallow and will continue to do so. Time is valuable and it is easier and simpler to do the shallow. I get good results and lots of garlic.
In my opinion... And for those of us with bad backs/mobility/strength issues, surface would be easiest, even though my wife is always insisting that seven inches is better than four inches.
Hmmm, I wonder if she was talking about planting Garlic...
@@miner79r Krazy Kid !!! Of course she was not talking about garlic. On the serious side. I do not have any problems that would keep me from planing my garlic deeper. But I am perfectly satisfied with planting then shallow and get nice sized garlic and plenty of it.
One thing to keep in mind, the deeper they are the wetter they will stay. If you have dry early summers, fine; you won't have to irrigate as often. But if you have soggy early summers, your luck may be like mine. This year it was super wet and I had the worst crop ever with most of my bulbs being partly or totally worthless due to rot by harvest time. Also I had planted deeper than usual. Most of the plants just broke off at ground level when I tried to pull them out, leaving smelly slime on my hand. I had to dig down with a trowel to get the bulbs.
The bed that I had planted the deepest took significantly longer for the plants to get up and going, but they seemed to catch up with the others in size eventually.
I had that same exact problem this year! I lost about 60 bulbs to rot. :(
I LOVE this kind of experiment.
I harvested brussels sprout seeds kind of early. Some seeds were dark brown or black, others tan and some green. I planted them right away. Few green came up, and they came up last. The tan were first up, and the brown and black came up later, but at the same germination rates. Conclusion: tan seeds are fastest and best.
Thank you for waiting to post until the experiment was complete! One useful result was that we don't have to worry too much about planting our garlic a little more deeply than we usually do since the 7" depth did well. And I wonder if folks in cold climates would have good results with the deeper planting--if it would compare to the protection that your centre row planting seemed to have.
This has been my experience.
Eliot Coleman lives in Main and plans his garlic shallow and with good success. If you have never heard of him, google him.
I'm zone 10 and since I was absolutely new a year and a half ago I followed your advice not realizing it was mostly winter based 😂 that was just a small factor in my novice season but at least I'm learning 😁
"I'm not going to lie" so if you don't say this does one assume you are lying? Lol I couldn't resist
lol. When someone starts out with that or with “I’ll be honest”I usually stop listening or I’ll just take it with a grain of salt. But I wanted to comment on his loud struggling. 😊 almost every time he pulled out a little head of garlic he sounded like he was struggling with something so big and huge. 😂
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He probably never did any laborious work in his life, so this was a real challenge for him. LOL
So funny, I wrote this same exact thing😂and then erased it
The outside edges seemed to have lost more cloves over winter vs the more protected centre patch. .
Thanks for the experiment!
Too funny you say that - my gf said the same thing, so I think for this coming year I'm going to do an outside of the bed vs inside of the bed experiment!
Exactly! That is a variable to be tested. That would mean 2 more years of testing in order to rotate the rows so the 0” and 7” depths get a chance to be in the center.
@@marysuewhalen5446 no, just use 2 beds instead of 1, do it both in 1 year
@@marysuewhalen5446 or you could switch the way the rows are organized. horizontally vs vertically
Mine did the same thing. More on the outside edges did not live.
There was a problem with your experiment, the center row (4 inches) was insulated by the two outside rows improving their survivability. To correct the experiment, I suggest dividing your container into fifteen sections (three by five) and utilizing the center three sections for the comparisons.
Very interesting.
My hardneck garlic began as a bulb from Aldi which sprouted in the fridge 7 or 8 years ago (I've learned since NOT to keep garlic in the fridge) & I planted just to see what happened, which was about 500g of garlic from less than 20 bulbs - not much but for more or less free...
Each subsequent year, I've kept back the best two or three bulbs for replanting & used the biggest 8-10 cloves from them for the next year.
These I start in cell trays in mid October.
I'm in temperate zone 9 but plant these at the back of the borders in my polytunnel, mostly as outside garlic seems to suffer badly with rust.
A month after harvesting this year, my 28 bulbs averaged just under 70g. brought down by two sub 20g runts...
I guess these were 2" deep in the cell trays, then 4" deep in the ground.
Rust is usually triggered by wet winters. I got really bad rust last year, but was able to wipe it out with azoxystrobin which is a systemic fungicide thats made from mushrooms originally totally safe but is one of 3 that can work on garlic rust. Definitely got good garlic.
Excellent video. Well edited. Host has great personality. I learned a bunch!
Love this - always doing little garden experiments on my own and trying to control for all the variables is the challenge. I am wondering about garlic scape. When I did a little experiment years ago, I didn't really see any difference between the ones that I pruned and the ones where I let the scapes go. I do really love the way the scapes look in the garden - the first time I grew garlic I thought it looked like a flock of birds had landed. I have also observed that once the scapes are totally vertical pointing up to the sky, the garlic is usually ready to be harvested. Maybe I will do another experiment and see what happens. Also read in a book by a garlic farmer that he didn't think removing the scapes was worth the effort as far as final result was concerned. They are good to eat, though, make a nice pesto.
One potential design issue...the edges may effect size. So the 4 in depth...which had the least edge effect...could confound the results. Experiments need randomization of treatments...or should have been in a 3x3 factorial design. I think it is safe to say the zero depth did result in smaller heada...but maybe not as small as one thinks. However...the 7 in depth could have provided biggest heads if there was an edge effect
totally agree with this. This experiment is inconclusive. He needs to do 2 more beds, one with no depth in the middle and the other with 7" depth in the middle.
that was a great video! I have been growing garlic for four years and the first two years I've planted my garlic in the fall and they did reasonably well! But these past two seasons I have planted them in April and all of my heads of garlic are twice the size as any that were planted in the fall! i'm thinking the northern New Hampshire climate is too much in the winter time for them. Thanks for your channel!
Sometimes shallow is enough to get the job done. Sometimes only getting in there nice and deep will work. The key is variety.
Thanks!
I like the way you say that.
Fascinating! For years, my garlic has been planted 6" deep, then covered with straw. We usually get a good harvest. BUT - digging only 4" sounds like a less labor-intensive plan I can go for. Btw, I use a bulb planter tool to dig the holes. Thank you!
wow quick fascinating results proved by practical explanation, just what a legendary gardener alone can provide. thx a lot do enjoy this beacon of your hard work
Really good video! And it's especially timely as we're starting to think about fall gardening and planting garlic in a couple of months!!
Great experiment. Good to great results. Thanks for sharing Jordan 🙏🏼👍🏼
🌏🌎🌍🕊️ For all of us 🙏🏼✨❤️🌈
My pleasure Zane!! Lots more coming!
Great looking garlic! I believe that I plant my garlic very similar to the way that You do,all things considered. This Year for me(end of July also) was my best harvest ever. Some heads got harvested late and were duds. My best estimate is that the average head weighed 1.86 ounces. I have been planting about 4 inches ALWAYS for several years. It’s a fun plant to grow and harvest AND ENJOY! Happy growing!!
It would be cool if you tried the experiment 2 more years in a row and switched the middle row depth since it might have affectes the results
So glad you did this test because I'll be planting your garlic kit this year God willing . I planted garlic the fall last year and all the bulbs rotted . Im hoping this years plant will be successful 🤗👍
Can't wait to help you!! If it rotted then definitely make sure you use that soil blend of 75% Compost and 25% Vermiculite. Rotting happens due to them being in too wet of an environment. So if you planted them in the ground, you'll probably want to build vertically (either just with that blend I mentioned or with an actual raised bed). That should help a lot!
@MindandSoil Thank you , my husband is going to build a bed this year . I've always planted the garlic in pots .
@@anabanana7599 Ah yes pots are much more challenging than a raised bed. When he builds it just make sure it is at least 10" in height for the walls. And then if I was you I'd fill the entirety of that bed up with the blend of 75% Compost and 25% Vermiculite.
This is how I setup the exact bed that I'll be planting my garlic into: th-cam.com/video/qwEAEZQ1ts0/w-d-xo.html
If you want to see how I've set wooden raised beds up in the past, you can see that right here: th-cam.com/video/JXz_D-Y7UvU/w-d-xo.html
And the new full step-by-step guide for growing garlic is right here: th-cam.com/video/KPsgK-OFyPI/w-d-xo.html
@MindandSoil awesome 👍 thank you so much. I was going to search out your vids on this but you've just saved me the trouble 🤗👍🩵
I'm glad I watched this! We planted garlic for the first time last fall, and we're pretty pleased with our harvest, but I planted them just like our green onions. I'll plant at 4" this fall for sure.
Excellent video! You're very thorough in your experiments and that's awesome and so helpful. Thank you for doing this and for sharing!!
The video I never knew I needed.
Thanks garlic loving nerd!
This is realy helping me/us alot in planning our next year thx for dooing an sharing all of this !!!!
Terrific video. Thanks!
Thx Tara!
Thank you for doing the work people like me are too lazy to do :D Great video!
Interesting experiment. Unfortunately, the downside is that sun exposure was not the same for all three sections. What you said at the beginning, the 0 depth garlic got the least sun exposure, I gathered that the sun sets and rises parallel to the bed length. If that is the case, it would be wise to cut the three sections lengthwise so that all three sections get the same amount of sun. As of now, the 0 depth garlic is smaller could be most likely due to getting less amount of sunlight rather than depth of planting.
Could also be differences in moisture or temperature based on location in the bed.
What a great experiment!
Thanks so much! Check the channel for lots of other experiment results 🥳
Great experiment! Maybe repeat it again in 3 separate beds for true results or mix up the order in a divided bed
I like you video! It’s good to know that even shallow planted can survive the winter. I also learned that I need to be more patient - pulled mine out of ground too early. I’ve never gotten garlic heads as large as yours. I’m going to use actual seed garlic this year rather than grocery store ones. And bone meal to supplement the soil.
I am getting set this fall to plant a raised garden of garlic for the first time 😊 thanks for the video
Thank you for your experiment 👏🏻👏🏻 is going to help me a lot since is the 1st time I’m growing garlic & it will be this Fall!! Blessings from Kentucky 🙌🏻🦋🤗
New subscriber. I love these experiments because my Mom always said, "The proof is in the pudding." and your experiments do just that. Thanks for doing them.
I've been thinking about this too. Thanks for the video.
What a wonderful share🎉
the 4" deep was in the center. that may have been why more heads survived the winter. This is great info.
Very nice experiment, thank you
My own experience with garlic, is that the variety, the soil, and the moisture are what really matter.
Great experiment thanks. Turns out I’ve been planting my garlic to shallow! Although I do hate to tell you you picked them too soon I was always taught you wait till they turn yellowy brown and keel over in the summer sun, before harvesting, and that way they’re easier to peel and already dried out for storage.
I've done it this way and the bulbs were all falling apart by harvest. It may depend on geographical location
When I do this, my bulbs are separated and therefore, not as good for storage. I'm not waiting as long next year. After harvest, you can just spend a bit longer drying them.
That's a great idea for an experiment. Harvest on different weeks.
Just wondered if there was any difference in flavour or strength of the garlic
Thank you for all the time you put into this. I have always planted mine shallow. To me the results seemed just Ok. This fall I will be trying the 4 inch dept just to see if it does better. In Utah, July is so hot and dry. It always seems to me that they should last 2 or 3 weeks longer. They never get as big as the heads I use to plant. Am planning on moving the bed so they just have a bit more shade at the hottest part of the day. This video was helpful to me.
Last year I planted garlic the way I normally do, but discovered a couple of cloves were just left lying on the ground and covered with mulch. They did fine. I'm considering just burying my garlic in hay this winter. Far less effort for apparently good results.
Good experiment with planting them at different depths.
Constantly saying "I'm not going to lie" implies you might otherwise lie.
It's a common colloquial expression in North America. It has nothing to do with lying.
Could the success of the 4" garlic also be attributed to the location being predominantly interior?
Very helpful, and you absolutely get 👏 for 9 months of good work thanks!
Very interesting. I love how you as an American talk about planting depth in inches then weighed your produce in grams and kilograms! Given I live in a country that does not get snow (well it does but only up the mountains) What I got from this is I can dig a hole and plant my garlic without worrying about exact depth.
cause grams is easier than saying gallons cups and pints lmao, america be stupid sometimes, we have to learn both systems for no reason
He's a proud Canadian!
@@briantayes2418 Oops. 😂 As an Australian I can't tell the difference.
@@joandsarah77 Yes, our accents are very similar on the west coast.
I've planted mine shallow for the last few years. Zone 6b. Interesting experiment
I am in 6B and plant mine about an inch down. I get plenty of garlic of different varieties. My bed is a raised concrete block bed. I cover with frost cloth and tarp it. I have garlic 5 inches tall with leaves ready to go by April.
How long do they last [ to be eaten] after the harvest
Mine are hanging in a dry but not heated[ yet] room
Also
Can i use the bulbs for this winter planting?
@@bipbip6626if you dry them completely and then store in a cool room, they should last for months. Use the ones where the. Ulb broke apart first. They won't store as well. Keep checking on them. In January. You might have to pull all the bulbs aoart because some cloves will start to rot. Them just store the cloves maybe in the fridge and use cloves that are the softest first.
Liked and subscribed, great channel, content and testing techniques!
Holy smokes man. Thats a heck of a project cool to see how it turned out
ur experiment is not controlled correctly... the fact the other 2 are on edge + the size of your seed matters as well... you needs to have identical seed size/weight for your experiment to be successful ( as you know the bigger the seed the bigger the yield ) + some of them you are cutting with big stems on top while other are cut with small stem on top...
Glad to have found your channel! I am in zone 4b but at least you deal with snow!
To be more precise, you could weigh the cloves you plant and the bulbs they produce for both absolute and relative values. I go with 4" and as thick a mulch layer. Zone 4a.
Absolutely - I've done some really cool experiments where I specifically use small vs large cloves, makes a huge difference!
@@MindandSoil Just no comparison. :)
Great information as I’m getting ready to plant next year’s crop 😊
I always plant my garlic at 2-3 inches deep (I use my thumb to make the hole). Based on the information from your experiment I don’t think I’ll be changing that. This was interesting to watch, thanks.
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Great experiment and explanation!
Great thanks, always fun to see the results 👍
Great info. Cheers from Ottawa.
The center of the bed is more protected from the cold in winter , i plant at 4inches and the center always does better if any dont make it there always on the outside rows.
Great work!
I wouldnt do 7" unless planting in grow bags or doing very little garlic. 4" is a pain in the butt enough especially when you do hundreds of garlic bulbs per year. There's a reason the standard recommendations are 2-4" even in colder climates--not worth the hassle.
So many people nitpicking the experiment--just shut up and grow stuff. You'll either figure it out on your own or learn to trust the wisdom of those who came before you.
I knew someone who planted them about a foot deep, each bulb had 1 clove , no divisions
Just a few questions...
1) Is this depth based on the topmost point or on the bottom of the clove?
2) How would your depths be affected by different types of garlic vs elephant garlic?
3) Were there any effects noted if you use an insulating layer of clean straw for overwintering?
Great experiment! In harder soils the depth could impact size. Your soil looks wonderful. Commercial soft-neck garlic in California is usually shallow planted at 4" or less.
awesome video, subscribed! Would love to see it with borders around each? Or 3 seperate mini beds? Love your experiments.
I like this experiment. And i now will plant my garlic deeper this year lol
I would say it depends on your local climate. But many factors can potentially affect middle of the row versus the edge - moisture, sun, and microclimate within that bed. The row nearest the edge of the bed may not be the best insulated for the deep freeze. What about trying a checker board distribution of the different depths. But based on your results, and my experience, I am sticking to 4 inch-ish.
I rescued a garden. Lots of garlic. All in clumps, and deep. Been that way unattended, for at least a couple of decades. And. I noticed that my neighbor grows his garlic in clumps. It's a way to grow if you don't have the time to care for them. It gets around 0 in the winter here.
Thanks for another interesting experiment.
Liked and subscribed , great experiment with real world applications !
Thank you! 4 inches all the way! (thats what i tell my GF too)
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I have been planting garlic for 15 yrs in Toronto Canada at about 2 inch deep (not in raised beds )with good results ….also cover with leaves for cold / snow/ frost in winter on the end of October .I don’t fertilize the soil and I wonder other than worm castings what did you use …enjoyed the video .
first time I grew elephant garlic into a bed, usually in pots before I had an allotment, they were ok and not as big as id have expected. I wondered if it was because the soil is mostly clay and I didn't put enough composted matter down? digging up was quite a bind as it was stuck in the clay
Garlic needs more fertilizer than you may think !
The reason why the 4" did better is because they had the best conditions. They were insulated better by the garlic bulbs planted on each side, both under and over-ground, they also had more light than the other row. So my educated guess is; had you planted any heads in that spot, they would've done better regardless of depth.
Next year prepaid your bed the same way but plant your bed a consistent 4” to see if the the variation in placement makes a significant difference.
Thank you, now I know were to plant my garlic.
Ive been planting mine shallow with good results but ill be going deeper frok now on. Thanks
Very interesting experiment. One would think the garlic planted at 7 inches would have been better protected and had better survival rate. I always plant my garlic at 2-3 inches. Most times I might lose one or two heads, but I usually get a decent crop. Nothing monstrous, but a good average. Oh, I grow Early Italian Purple.
Great. I just separated 3 large bulbs today and left them ready for planting tomorrow morning.
I have good luck planting garlic about 1-2” below the surface here in zone 6B. Garlic is forgiving, I threw some small cloves on the ground uncovered and they actually grew.
"These ones", it is these!
I winced every time I heard that, or "those ones". Could be a drinking game for the video 😂
I have a super mild climate so i can do 2-3 inches as the coldest temp i could ever get is about 28 degrees Fahrenheit and its super rare I just dont need to go any deeper than 4 inches at the most. Also strangely enough I am in a warmer zone but cold for my state despite being a warmer zone and only hardneck garlic grows here have never gotten softneck to bulb but hardneck works out every single year. Its super bizzare as on paper im supposed to be great for softneck.
Great video.
I've experimented from year to year with varying depths, and anecdotally noticed that at shallower depths the garlic tends to fall over easier. So, a little extra depth is desirable as opposed to just below the surface. From what I have read - you don't want to plant them too deep, especially in compact soils because it may hinder the bulb's ability to grow. Not sure how much I buy into that, but your growing medium should be nice and loose regardless.
Been planting mine at 0" for years lol always assumed the leaves should be above ground!
haha, glad you got a little takeaway learning from it then!!
Thanks! God bless you on Him. Would you do experiments with grains of wheat like soft white wheat 🌾 for all purpose and Red bread flour wheat for pizza etc? Also, would onions grow below ground like garlic?
Awesome! What type of hardneck do you grow?
There is a lot of clay in my soil so in my mind that also affects(wonder if shallow is better in clay?), just like the edges are never as good as the center
Greetings from the BIG SKY of Montana. I grew garlics in my garden here in Lewistown. All my garlic seed stock came from the Filaree Farms in Washington. Hard to get garlic seed stock. They have the biggest stock of garlic in the USA. A good source company. Garlic is an interesting crop. Check out their catalog. I treasure mine.
Hey, thanks for the science experiment! I subscribed.
Excellent experiment! Thanks for your effort.
Thanks for this fine & useful experiment. I must wonder how that princeple translates to other bulbs like grape hyacinth or onions?
I've had much more success with onions when planted really shallow - got an experiment video coming up on that in the next 1-2 weeks!
@@MindandSoil TYSM!
There is one thing I would check out. Sometimes people grow garlic not for the bulbs, but for its chives (which are great by the way, as long as they are young and tender). I wonder, how the depth would influence the thickness and length of garlic chives?
Hmm 4inches seems to be the right spot Ive tried it with all sorts of veg. The seed only has a certain amount of energy. @Lazygardens is right to be scientific maybe just add a bit at the end and show us 3 mid grown garlic's at different depths.. However you have all thinking, I noticed that you didnt do the worm casting at the bottom like with tomatos and chillis... maybe time to redo this test?? Good video anyway. Like all your vids so far(seen two)