Alex said “whoever killed Paul had been thinking about it for a long time and hated him” I believe Alex was so angry with Paul because of him all his theft was coming out
I think he was trying to "hint" that the murderer was someone from back when the girl died in the boating accident...someone like that who hated Paul and been thinking for a long time to kill him. Alex was trying to place the blame on people angry about the boating accident.
OMG I totally agree! I felt like he wanted everyone to think that he was referring to someone from the past or from the boat, but in truth I feel like he was just describing his own contempt. Freudian slip? Window to his soul for sure.
Its very obvious from the court case that Murdaugh was a very powerful and influential person. This is why SLED tiptoed around him instead of treating him like they would have treated anyone else...
I think the investigators were so inept, and there was so much Reasonable Doubt, that it’s a Real Miracle the prosecutors could convince a jury with ZERO EVIDENCE. It’s not Alex’s fault the investigators were so inept.
It's said they were feared by many. In the Steven Smith case too. AM has a court case August for wrongful death August. I hope the evil monster never see's the light of day.
Heck no they sucked especially Waters you would have thought this whole case was about his financial crimes that's all he talked about the entire time even after Alex already admitted to all of it that's all he could talk about even though this trial wasn't about his financial crimes, yes I can see him bringing it up because it was a motive but when that's the only thing he talked about it got really annoying and show that they really didn't have any evidence he gave me vibes of being jealous because Ally's in his family was very well-known and very successful until he did what he did he seemed jealous that he would never reach that status, he honestly sucked and if it wouldn't be for the fact that it was basically plain as day that he killed them he would have never won
I like that Creighton is a rock star and plays electric guitar in a band. He also handled the sound and video for the courtroom. And, he found a broken lectern they used which he had to glue back together. CW kept Alex talking so the Jury could understand how easy it is for Alex to lie. Each of his financial crime victims deserved to be mentioned during the proceedings.
Bubba and Paul solved his own murder 🐕 and his mothers. I was disgusted how Maggie was not characterized as a victim like Pa Pa was. Alec is also a misogynist…
Alec is disgusting!!! He felt nothing for his wife or son! I didn’t believe that pa Pa, Bus nor Maggs for one second! He did that as terms of endearment only for the trial.
I hope it's not the case, but Buster's i.d. was used at the boat accident, and the boat case could have brought up anything else Buster could have been accused of. He only lived two hours away. He could have helped hide/get rid of things. I hope not. He did stick up for his dad. Seems like he would have been so angry with him for killing his mother and brother. Maybe he took up for him bc he was the only family member he had left.
You don't have to be a scientist to understand that Alex took phone after shots, then while driving (45 mph) drove over into the left lane and pitched out the phone. The guy is guilty!
Saying a theory being possible equates to guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is ridiculous. But even then, what you - as well as all of the other deranged con artists - are claiming amount to nothing more than unfathomable levels of dishonesty. After all, for Alex Murdaugh to be the one that shot both Paul and Maggie, he would have to: shot a moving target while moving on his knees while being an obese old man with knee problems; magically clean blood off of his entire body quickly; do an insane amount of things over the course of at most 16 minutes (because of course, prosecution never proved time of death beyond any reasonable doubt, only asserting the least inconvenient time for their dogshit case) in addition to what he is already doing; and teleport half a mile, among other things. All impossible feats.
The evidence with Maggie’s phone changed near the end of the trial when all the data from the phone companies and the OnStar from Alex’s vehicle became available. When they pulled all the data together and tracked them concurrently, the timing became more apparent.
Dude must have been peein his pants when he realized what they had on him: the video Paul took, Maggie’s phone, Blanca, body cam footage of his fake-ass, after 911, the snot keeps-a- runnin’ but no genuine tears or nuthin’ from his cold, dark, mean, ruthless eyes of his, not judgin’ but what a sorry excuse for a human😢
Kudos to the entire Prosecution Team and Judge Newman deserved a standing ovation for his input on Alex’s behavior and his supposed drug addiction! He was professional, nonbiased, and appropriate, as well as sympathetic for the victims was overall the satisfactory explanation of the entire trial! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Oh I can’t praise this judge enough. I’ve watched probably close to numerous trials and he is by far my favorite judge of all! He knew this case inside out. He was thoughtful on his rulings and gave detailed reasons. I love his cool calm demeanor which speaks volumes! He also had full control of his courtroom at all times. He is highly respected and admired by colleagues. I wish I could shake his hand. This trial had to be extremely tough for him. He lost his son jan 2023 due to an unexpected heart issue. Now he’s been residing over a trial where a father slaughtered his son and wife. I can’t imagine what that must have been doing to him everyday. When he imposed sentence he spoke in his cool calm demeanor. He tried to show some empathy to Alex and he gave him sound advice asking “when will it end” he told him. What a Honorable Judge and man. If I had to describe Honorable Judge Newman in three words that would be eloquent, impeccable and classy!
@@saphdiam I know. I’m going to watch some of his previous trials. I love to watch the judge in trials. I pay close attention to their rulings and I admired him from the start.
Impressed with the information that one of the jurors came up to explain the odd upward angle of gun shot to Paul head. The raised sil plate in the storage room doorway may have caused Alex to trip over as he was backing up after the first shot was fired. This would have him firing from the ground. Brilliant observation from this juror as they went to the crime scene on request by the Defence Attorneys. It’s a good thing that Alex didn’t reach Rogan as he could of been the third victim.
But it was also explained that he had the guns leaning against the wall outside the feed room. After he shot Paul once, he thought that job was done. He leaned down to put the shotgun down and get the other gun, when Paul came walking toward the doorway. From that leaning position, Alex took the shotgun and shot Paul again. Put that gun down, switched guns, and shot Maggie as she was running towards them.
@@terrarayner8766 That is because the gun was protruding into the room. The room was 10 feet to the window. Paul was standing halfway or 5 feet into the room. The firearm was several feet inside the feed room both times he shot for both shells to be ejected in the feed room then they rolled under the door. That first shot was so close the gunpowder burned Paul's shoulder. It's called stippling.
I think Alex was going to use Rogan somehow or another to lure him to the kennels during the time he wasn't going to be there and at his parent's house so that Rogan would have found the bodies instead of Alex and then have even been a suspect in the deaths. Horrifying to think about but thank GOD Rogan did not answer Alex's calls!!! Divine intervention for Rogan is my thought.
THE MORE I HEAR ABOUT THIS CASE, I AM SO THANKFUL TO THE PROSECUTION GOT THIS GUY OFF THE STREETS. I FOR ONE SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT KNOWING HE IS LOCKED FOR TWO LIFETIMES.
why would ' U ' sleep better? He was hardly gonna come and murder you was he? And he was not exactly someone "on the streets" so he's not "off the streets" ... he's out of his mansion.....stop personalizing , you prawn!
Little detective solved his and his mother's murder with that Snapchat video. Alex wasn't expecting that video, and if it hadn't of existed he may not have been found guilty. Why Alex would murder his wife and son so viciously , pretty hideously is beyond me. Now all these events involving AM are starting to unravel. It has opened up new possibilities in the cases of Stephen & Gloria due to Maggie and Pauls death. Rip to all the victims 🙏🏽 ♥ 🕊 May they get the justice they deserve. This man took EVERYTHING away from the people who loved & trusted him. Smh
The "little detective" aka Paul, literally "spoke from the grave" and solved his as well as his mother's deaths with the kennel video. Guess one could say, that video was "the smoking gun" that solved it once and for all to hear and see.
To be clear, the snapshot video was taken about an hour before the murders and it was Paul's cellphone video that was taken minutes before the murders. The snapshot video proves Alex changed his clothes and the cell phone video proves he was there at the time of the murders. Both together prove he was the murderer.
I think Alex planned on killing them earlier but Maggie stopped to get a pedicure, which he later learned from Paul. Then he rushed through it once they were together after eating dinner. They perhaps thought they were on their way to see Paul’s grandpa and grandma but Alex thought up an excuse to stop by the kennels first. He had no idea about Paul, Chase, and the video.
Yes when he and Paul were riding around around 5PM he was expecting Maggie earlier and that would have put the man who came to feed the dogs closer to the time frame he planned. He was the first person alex pointed toward to the officer on the scene
I can't imagine as a mother seeing my husband and father to my kids murder our son. I'd be in shock. I believe Alex took the phone and threw it as well. Paul convicted his murdering father from the grave. So sad. Fly high Paul and Maggie. Prayers for Buster to heal in a positive way. 💔🙏
Fly high????? The whole dam family were arrogant and narcissistic. They ALL treated everyone else like crap. Oh, then there is bus bus who got tossed out of law school for cheating. What a great well adjusted family! NOT NOT NOT!
This case made me hug my wife and son a little tighter. As a father/protector I can’t imagine the fear they must have felt. I hope he has fun in the DOC, South Carolina prison is nowhere you want to be
Me too. I been giving my husband exactly what he wants every since this trial. He would give his life for me and I had become complacent. I'm so blessed
Yes, God bless Bubba! He really was the MVP of this investigation! Paul also did his best detective work right up to his tragic death. We also have to remember that Cash was also a very valuable witness and big help in this case. Had it not been for his tail having a small injury, Paul wouldn't have been taking a video. Animals are so special and so devoted to us humans and they need to be treated with the same love and regard as they show us. Alex must be cursing Bubba in his cell. I'm glad he can't get to Bubba. I'm glad that this part of the Murdaugh saga is over and that that little town and it's people can (finally after 100 year's) be a better place.
@@angiejorahWhere is this evidence & when was it shown? If that’s true then he literally could not have thrown it out the window as it was portrayed in court. Do you think Alex did it?
He's invincible- remember? Yes, he would carry the guns around. However, I don't think he would carry them around for several days. He went back to Almeda the next morning at 6:30, didn't he? Could be wrong, IDK. The defense worked for the prosecution. They made major mistakes. Harpootlian was ignorant, disorganized, stupid(to point a gun then make a joke), he came across as a doddering old fool. Plus their witnesses were impotent or bizarre.
When Law Enforcement arrived at the scene, Bubba was desperately trying to tell authorities to let him out so he could get the person responsible. The dogs knew and were trying to tell everyone. Watch the arriving LE bodycams... the dog is FRANTIC.
Thank you to the pet dogs, bubba & cash. Had it not been for both of them there would be a) no video and b) no voice of Alex heard on video, which would both ultimately bring Alex murdaugh down. Imagine ultimately being busted for murdering 2 people because of 2 pet dogs. Lol. That is epic. Thank you puppy dogs 🙏 Great job 👏
@@independentcasting1 Agreed! Not anymore though…I think the story about that fall has now changed and he’s saying she no longer tripped over the dogs. Either way, the 2 pet dogs are the stars here…they changed the fate in the way this post-murder investigation & trial & jury decision played out and put a narcissistic psychopath behind bars for good.
I definitely think he washed them off and took the to his moms. Hide them lightly and started talking about how Paul leaves his guns everywhere in case they r found. Sled did blow it as far as not going there. I think they were gone right after second interview when Alex knew they knew the third gun was known about.
Means absolutely nothing these idiots out here thanking dogs to get the public’s hearts all warm and fuzzy bc they had 0 percent of a case with out trickery as agent liar bias owens had said. Amazing. Sleds home office should be out of Warner brothers studios lol
When Alex asked Buster to go hunt at Moselle during a jail phone call, I think he meant him to get the hidden weapons or clothes or something to get rid of them..
I think the investigators were so inept, and there was so much Reasonable Doubt, that it’s a Real Miracle the prosecutors could convince a jury with ZERO EVIDENCE. It’s not Alex’s fault the investigators were so inept.
Has there been any follow-up on Shelley? Was she able to keep her job? I worry and think about her often, I’m sure many others do, too. Just want to make sure she’s doing ok. She was so brave, she’s a hero for Truth and Justice, even though Alex was threatening her employment at the school (his best friend is the principal there) as well as her employment with the family. God bless her.
makes you wonder what he thought when he saw the type of damage he did to his sons body when he fired that second shot. To see your sons brain leap out of his body and land on the floor next to him? How he was able to function after that to kill Maggie is something that just bewilders me.
He was desperate! That's why he was able to do what he did. He did seem to get very emotional when the court was talking about Paul's body and his brain, because he was still shocked at what he done to Paul.
I think that is why he is able to get so emotional over Paul's death. He didn't expect to have to fire that second shot to the head and the image of the damage stuck with him.
Psychopaths always bewilder us, because we think from a normal perspective, they are souless robots who don't have these feelings of remorse. Like the Terminator.
I agree. I have wondered igf,he wanted it to look like Paul had committed suicide and when that didn’t work out then he had to off Maggie, too. Not entirely sure he intended to kill her, too.
There was no ‘huge risk’ in taking the guns with him to Alameda since at that time the only one who knew about the murders was him. Odds he’d randomly run into a traffic stop on a lonely country road at night were extremely low, and even if he did, there wouldn’t be a reason to search his vehicle at that point in time. Besides, he always had one of his official solicitor’s badges close at hand.
They're not talking about huge risk having guns in vehicle night of murder. They mean moving them days or weeks after murders to dispose into water. Meaning, hiding them temporarily at Alameda night of murder....then dispose permanently
People are forgetting he planned this entire thing. I think he had a hole dug or something already at alameda. And definitely took the guns apart the next morning @ 6 am. I think he had so much planned. And would have worked if he could have gotten rid of Paul’s phone. That darn video 🎉
It's not odd when you control that whole community and they wouldn't treat him like a suspect from the moment they encountered him. Even law enforcement was intimidated by who he was. This is what happens in a good Ole boy system. Now the law enforcement integrity in that community is questionable.
From my understanding…the only officer that wrote about Paul being the boat driver was fired shortly after ostensibly for something unrelated. It was known amongst officers that you don’t get on a Murdaugh’s bad side or you will find yourselves out of a livelihood in no time at all.
Alex, planned this for sometime. He basically told his sister-in-law that. He planned to kill both his son and his wife. He made sure they were there at the same time. He called Paul to come prepare for a hunting gathering that weekend and Maggie to go with him to see his dad who was dying. The perfect set-up. He spent time with Paul during the afternoon. Kinda a last good-bye. They must have had the guns with them at that time because he said they never went out without them because of the hogs. I think Alex was shaking from his withdrawals. (Alex himself said a person will do anything to get the pills to prevent the withdrawal symptoms) Those he had planned this overtime. It didn't go quite as he expected because he was having withdrawal. I think the guns were already out there in the side-side. Alex waited for Maggie to go around the building. He retrieved the guns. He was unsteady. Paul phone rang. He turns to the side to pull out his phone . Before he pulls the phone all the way out. Alex shoots him hitting him in the chest. Alex sees he is still alive he shoots again. Still shaking thinking if he hits his should it will go through and hit his heart and he will die instantly. When went through to the brain I think Alex was surprised. I think that is why he said " They did it bad I should have know." I think he was actually saying " I should have know the force and the damage it could cause. When Maggie turned the corner. Alex was shaking even more. Maggie was moving. He shot her where he could stop her then moved around still shaking. He hits her in the upper abdomen causing her to fall to her knees. Still shaking he aims at her hand and misses shooting her through the breast. He wanted to make sure she was dead so he got close-up and shot again. He could not let Maggie live. She knew to much about his activities of which I feel is much deeper than is know. If she left him. All that would come out. Alex said Paul's phone had come out of his pocket. He picked it up and tried to do something and he put it down. I think Paul was reaching for his phone and kinda turn to the side when Alex first shot him that is why when Paul fell the phone came out of his pocket. More than likely Alex hid the guns and clothing in the shrubs until he was able to get back the early the next morning to dispose of them. As a nurse I know families seldom visit dementia patient late evening or early mornings. If they are sleeping. You do not was to awaken them and if they are not sleeping they are usually very agitated at those hours. Just my opinion.
I thought he was using the addiction just so he could use that as an excuse that he wasnt stable mentally and not because he was really addicted? Also what was the real reason why he murdered both his family members? Sorry just curious as I'm new to this case.
He was abusing the pills but not to the extent he claimed. That dosage would be incompatible with life. He more than likely was involved in the pills in a much deeper level. He planned the process of the crime. On June 7, 2021 everything fell into place. It was the perfect time. His Dad's condition deteriorated. A good excuse to get Maggie to come home. He planned a hunting gathering that weekend. He had Paul to come that day to.prepare for it. Perfect planning. Alex is an attorney so he knew he had to have them together. He had to do this alone. As an attorney he would know to have anyone else involved would be a weak link. They would have sold him out the first time they needed bargaining power and they could extort him. Something else I recall Alex stating to SLED. He said Maggie was late arriving because she had a doctor appointment. Alex knew that she had a pedicure that afternoon. Paul told him. I guess Alex thought telling them she had stomach problems and had seen a doctor was better than saying she had a mani/pedicure. Most people with financial problems don't spent $200 to $300 on mani/pedicures. Just my opinion.
@@shirleymadden-yg2dw I agree that he did it alone. No way would he trust anyone else for this. As far as her phone goes, most of us women don't keep our phone in a pocket on us. I wonder what she was wearing that night and if she had big enough pockets to hold a phone. He wouldn't have to touch her to get her phone, but I'm sure he picked it up. It makes no sense why a different killer would care about her phone. Alex probably had some kind of plan for her phone, but abandoned the idea and tossed it just as they said. I also agree with you on visiting anyone with dementia at that hour. It's often hard to get them to sleep at night and waking them is cruel, but he didn't care at all because he needed that alibi.
What will stay with me is hearing Alex in the Cash video asking, "What's the matter Paul?" & then hearing Paul say under his voice, "Shut up Dad". That speaks volumes to me - Alex trying to sound like he cares - and Paul seeing through it & showing how much respect he's lost for his father (by saying 'shut up Dad' to himself). Even though AM is in prison for the murders, I still would like to see a family member or friend go find the guns & his clothes. It would still be pretty darn satisfying for that to happen.
Hearing Alex ask his son what was the matter, just is so hurtful 💔 😢, and I mean, hurtful to me, I cannot even imagine Paul's and Maggie's last thoughts.
@@deanb3033 it's about 16 seconds into the video after Paul says "Quit Cash, quit." Alex says, "What's the matter Paul?" then Paul mutters to himself, "Shut up Dad." Also, strange why the prosecution went to such trouble to ask people whose voices they hear when Paul himself says, "Shut up Dad."
I think that AM and Maggie went down to the kennel together on the golf cart, and I think that AM had the weapons hid somewhere close to the kennel. Maggie I think was getting ready to divorce AM and he knew he would be found out financially. I think Paul had become a financial nightmare for AM and he thought with that last name he would get by with it
I think the investigators were so inept, and there was so much Reasonable Doubt, that it’s a Real Miracle the prosecutors could convince a jury with ZERO EVIDENCE. It’s not Alex’s fault the investigators were so inept.
@wildmercuryfilms move there & apply to work for law enforcement yourself. Yes things could had been done better. However, alex knows how to disrupt a crime scene, no matter what it would had been a battle. Bcuz alex is a lying liar
He probably said he had to shoot chicken to cover gun noise from,Maggie.....I believe she was heading to her car....she came around corner and caught,Alex and ran to stop him....
He stood for a moment maybe realizing what happened. Then he walked forward, maybe he then wanted to shout for his mother or even warn her but then Alex saw him still being alive and gave him the final shot.
Testimony was given that there were 90 drops of blood in the feed room from when Paul was first shot as blood dripped down his arm and hand so he was definitely moving slowly as he ambled towards the door.
I think the shock that he was shot and the shooter was his father rendered Paul into a state of shock. I have heard many shooting victims say that they didn't feel any pain at first. So I don't believe there was agony from pain, only mental agony.
When AM was asking Buster if he wanted to go hunting on the property he was telling him on the sly to get the weapons and clothes he hid from the murder. He said the traps are full. Nobody in jail thinks about that.🤔
Officer Greene repeated to many officers it's a murdaugh revenge thing, ultimately hindering the investigation, officers walked around the crime area in the dark. The house and out buildings were not searched for a perp that night. Family and friends were moving all around the area. The entire property should have been left quardened off w guards onsite and investigators return in the early morning for further investigation.
Great show. It’s one thing to present a case and a lot of evidence is not seen by the jury, and DA has much more information than anyone else has ever seen.
Regarding the phone trying to do face recognition not adding up since Alex had the code... My fiance has face recognition as the primary way to unlock his phone. So if I go to use his phone when it's locked, it automatically tries to do the facial recognition first, and then it allows me to put in the code. Just a small flaw I heard during the rebuttal of the prosecutor's theory...
My face recognition doesn’t work sometimes, too dark, my eyes are too puffy when I first wake up 😂 but I too can just put the code in after face recognition fails. I never set it up any specific way and use face recognition and pass code all the time interchangeably to get into my own phone…whatever works at the time
My iPhone does the same. Automatically tries the facial recognition and if it fails I can type in my code. Sometimes I’ll start typing in my code and it unlocks because it finally recognizes me
11:10 If Maggie had an iPhone, it would typically look for facial recognition immediately when the phone is picked up and in someone’s face. So, it would activate facial recognition automatically regardless if someone wants to put in the passcode. So I don’t find it odd that that would happen if Alex picked up her phone.
That was taken months after the murders. The search of the house had already been done a long time before. If it had any relevance they would have charged them.
Maggie's phone could have been on the golf cart - not with her. He didn't know until he was leaving, the phone was on the cart and at that point couldn't take it back. I feel the murders were at 8:50 and Alex was back at the house by 8:53 and the rotation was removing it from the cart, not Maggie.
I still don’t trust that Buster isn’t involved in some way. His demeanor is cold as ice. How could you sit through court like a statue without emotion when they are talking about your mother and brother.
I don’t think he was involved but don’t understand how he could sit everyday and listen to that evidence and not think he dad did it. I wonder what he was thinking about his mom and brother. His testifying was nothing and sad …
@@sunshinecheryll Because he love his father. He will deny it is his father until there is not even a shadow of a doubt. That is why jurors cannot have personal relationships with the accused. Any sliver of a chance, even 1 in a billion, would be enough that they could convince themselves that that is a reasonable doubt. It’s not uncommon for the family of the accused. It’s just harder in this case because he is also the only surviving immediate family to the victims as well.
If Buster was involved in ANY way, LE would have discovered it. They left no stone unturned. What you are doing is spreading rumors about someone who has not been charged because there is NO EVIDENCE. Please stick to the facts.
I understood the testimony to be that when Alex picked up Maggie's phone, it looked for facial recognition because that's how she would sign in. He would only be able to get in using a code. It seems the two events could have happened.
I am so glad others are still stuck on understanding this case, like me!! I don't want to let it go yet. I want all the evidence of phones and GPS to be explained to know step by step what he did and how it was done. I am finding I was too absorbed in this case to quickly switch over to the Ice Cream Truck murderer...I haven't finished gnawing on the Murdaugh case yet!! Thank you!
If you watch toward the end of the trial, the prosecutors share all the evidence regarding the phone data, on star evidence of Alex’s suburban, and Paul’s video proving Alex was there, and he shot them after the video at the dog kennels. Murdaugh Murders Podcast TH-cam channel has great details on this case. She was one of the first who questioned Alex’s crimes even before the murders.
@@bbe3034 I watched. And he DID do it. But I would like his and Maggie's steps re-enacted to see how it went down. And more about why the cellphones were behaving the way they did. And where the guns are, and his clothes. It IS possible that I am trying to rationally understand the events caused by an irrational man, but I want to understand.
"Two dogs and a chicken" - this has got to be the title of the next documentary. Also, please remember THREE were killed that night. The chicken did not survive Bubba Murdaugh.
I think Alex shot him in the chest. The force of the gun knocked him back a little bit, and he ( Alex)tripped over that little threshold, and landed on his rear end, and then shot up.
In one of the phone calls to Buster from Alex, while he's in jail, he seemed to really want Buster to check some deer feeders. He was really pressing him to do so. He could have hid the guns there.
From the beginning, I thought that if anyone would have been shot, it might have been Alex and Paul because of their involvement with other murders and shenanigans. Why would anyone, other than Alex, have a motive to kill Maggie, as she had nothing to do with any of that. Then when Alex said on the witness stand, "I had to get out of there." I mean, what was the rush for him to feel that he had to get out of there? Then, all of his strange behaviors, immediately after the murders, running around setting up alibis. Perhaps they should have called in Scotland Yard and let Sherlock solve the mystery.
The justification is that we have an overwhelming amount of domestic crime going on/the laws need to change. If you have nothing to hide…you hide nothing!!!!
Plus, they wouldn’t have sufficient evidence to search top prosecutor family home! Likely a Judge wouldn’t approve warrant. Besides the fact that his Dad died a couple of days after murders. Again, investigators would have backed off for sympathy reasons, giving AM more time to move guns. (Or family).
I agree that Alex took the weapons to Almeda the night of the murders, and then when he returned the following day or two, he had more of a chance to really dump the weapons. I think he also took his clothing he was wearing when he committed the murders. I think he took the clothing over that night after the murders and put them directly into the trash barrels at Almeda.
I didn’t believe Alex had done it till the very end with the time line. I was believing the tears and performance by Alex. I thought Alex was mentally unstable due to the deaths. The time line was the clincher for me.
I knew it the minute they said family guns were used and then the kennel video sealed the deal. As for the timeline, Waters did a great job of showing he HAD to be there during the murders, there was no way around it.
I hope I live to see the day that weapons are uncovered or accidentally discovered as well as anything else over at Almeda. I have no idea why they just left everything off the table over there but I hope one day before I die that the gun mystery is solved.
That video was his undoing and he had no idea it existed, so he lies thinking he's all set. It's obvious it couldn't have been anyone but him. His story had no credibility, he can't remember the last conversation. Can't remember what he was doing when his phone logged all those steps. So he just managed to leave directly before his family were killed? He then lies to police about it. It's crystal clear there is no secret killer out these.
I do agree that whomever did the investigation really botched it. They didn’t search the mom’s house, they didn’t close off the crime scene properly, allowed a bunch of lawyers into the crime scene and the house. They didn’t search the house properly or right away, they left evidence at the crime scene. They left huge gaps in the theory of the crime, that they didn’t bother to investigate or explain. They should’ve worked harder to obtain physical evidence, murder weapons etc. They relied too heavily on circumstantial evidence, and luckily they had a jury with common sense.
My speculations are, Alec was going thru with drawls at the ball game just the day prior to the murders. So how did he have a bag of pills right after the murders while talking to the police as he says? I think that Paul found more of Alex’s pills and had them in his pocket and refused to give them back to him. Alec angry and in a drug fueled panic pick up a gun and shoots him, Alec falls to his knees crying at what he’s done and delivers the second shot to Paul from a low angle. Maggie hears the shot comes running and Alec shoots her. Then Alec goes to Paul and retrieves his baggie of pills out of Paul’s pocket pulling his phone out to get the pills.
Remember, he called Maggie earlier to come out to Moselle and she thought something was weird. And having two guns not one in their deaths sounds very preplanned. I think he was planning this for a while and the night before is when he really decided to murder them on the 7th.
Yes he would have rode around with the guns because he was over confident with himself as well as his entitlement and being an untouched all of his life
This lack of respect for his mom and brother, for Mr proves that Buster is a clone of his father and is just as cold and arrogant. I hope the Smith investigation gets the truth out and that justice for his family can be provided. So much pain caused by one family. 😢
I was listening to the Murdaugh Murders podcast and something Alex said while testifying is very interesting. It sounds like he’s apologizing for something bigger to me. Alex actual words: “On June the 7th (long pause)… I wasn’t thinking clearly. I don’t think I was capable of reason. And I lied about being down there (the kennels) And I’m so sorry that I did. I’m so sorry to my son Buster. I’m sorry to Granmar and Papa T (Maggie’s parents). I’m sorry to both of our families. And most of all, I’m sorry to Maggs and Pau Pau. I would never intentionally do anything to hurt either one of them. Ever. Ever.” To me it sounds like he’s saying, On June 7th I was very high, incapable of reason, i.e. my actions weren’t rational. I’m so sorry to our family and MOST OF ALL Maggie and Paul. I would never have killed them if I had been in my right mind. i.e would never intentionally hurt them.
He also said "he went to do what he didnt want to do" referring to going to the kennel that night. He saw no other way out. Pauls Lawsuit was going to break them (Tinsley told him that day he was going after all of their moneys) & Maggs was going to divorce him after she found out about the embezzlement- she had already been looking into their finances for several reason & he wanted to refi her homes (EB & Moselle) but she refused, etc. If he could hav pulled off the murders, he would still be a lawyer in good standing (sell the houses for $$ to pay back - Maggs left them to AM), everyone would feel sorry for "the poor widower" & the boat case would hav gone away. He would hav a clean slate & plenty of $$.
I absolutely think Alex disposed of the guns and clothing in some body of water probably the ocean where the likelihood they would never be found. Sled did not have him under survelliance at that time.
All the homes in this family have names. A level of affluence I can’t even imagine. And they want us to believe they were normal people who weren’t holding all the power because of their wealth?
You all fail to give Cash his credits. It was because of Cash's tail issue that a video was being recorded. All three animals, Cash, Bubba, and the chicken, conspired to break this case. The chicken sacrificed her own life to the cause. Animals are amazing.
Rewatching the trial and if there's one thing that can be said it's that SLED and the sheriff's office messed up when it came to securing the scene, failing to properly secure Maggie's phone, and most importantly failing to execute a search warrant immediately on Alex's parents' house when he told them that was where he'd been. I'm not the only one that believes he wrapped the guns up in that raincoat and left it at his parents house. As ONSTAR showed during the trial he slowed down on their driveway on the way up to the house and then parked by some out buildings for a few minutes prior to calling Shelly to let him in. A TH-camr that did a series on these murders put up a drone and captured Buster and John Marvin removing firearms from the house and on a different day filmed Alex arriving at his parents' home only to leave minutes later in his father's truck which DID NOT have ONSAT. He returned shortly afterward and switched back to his vehicle and left. That was before the warrant was finally executed. If only they had acted that night. As for Maggie's phone I don't think he meant to take it. That always bugged me cause why take hers and not Paul's? For that reason I believe she had left it in the ATV and after Alex shot them he was in such a rush to get back to the house he didn't notice it was in the seat or cup holder til he got to the house. He couldn't take it back as he didn't have the time and he couldn't afford to drive his Suburban by the kennels because of the ONSTAR so he decided to throw it out as he left probably forgetting Buster at least had an app for finding your phone. If not for the improper handling of the evidence - turning it completely off or putting it in the Faraday bag - the phone would have lined up with Alex's and the GPS data could have been obtained. Another blown opportunity.
My bet is John Marvin. It makes no sense for him to have headed off to Moselle by himself the next morning - early- after staying with Alex and buster at Almeda the night before. He didn’t even have his own vehicle with him. Why wouldn’t they have stuck together for moral support and travelled there together? Instead John Marvin heads over there way early in the morning, by himself.
@@debbie2520 that makes total sense. I've also questioned why how brought up sunflowers had been recently planted. AM suggested he go deer hunting and Buster said he didn't wanna go over there. Ol’ persistent Alex M. then quickly mentioned Dove hunting at Moselle again, and then ask if BM mcares if he let's “JIM” go out there and BM says, “Jim who?” Am says,”Jim Griffin” my attorney! He's a good con, got that gift of gab, he's a power money hungry narcissistic mongrel!
I think the investigators were so inept, and there was so much Reasonable Doubt, that it’s a Real Miracle the prosecutors could convince a jury with ZERO EVIDENCE. It’s not Alex’s fault the investigators were so inept.
I think Paul shouted/screamed after the first shot and that's what got Maggie's attn as well as the shot.11:33 that's buckshot on the phone she had it and dropped it when she got shot. He shoots Paul knowing Maggie will come to her baby, he doesn't have to chase her then.
If you unexpectedly get hit in the chest with a shot gun blast you probably are in shock and not saying anything. Maggie would have heard the gun go off and run to the sound to see what happened. She probably thought it went off accidentally and Alex or Paul could be hurt but when she saw or heard the second shot she would realize it wasn't an accident.
I think he's wrong about AM throwing her phone out because panicked, I believe he had a plan and a trick to "not have her phone traveling with his", which was to be the pillar of his alibi and that is the only reason her phone was taken at all. He often said "you will see that her phone never traveled with mine". I believe firmly he took her phone on the golf cart to near the main entrance and left it there near the columns. He then raced on to the house, took shower etc. and picked her phone up when he left the main entrance in the suburban. He'd call her one more time right bevor he picked it up, ended the call while it was still getting connected and turned his phone off or put it into airplane mode immediately. He then stopped by the entrance, picked up her phone from the floor and drove out. He knew that driving out into the road is also where a short stop doesn't seem suspicious. When he picked it up he may have had something in his car that would have blocked her phone from signals, maybe a metal case. Because he now, at this point, connected his phone to the car (Interesting, the FBI said he connected a third time at this point) Although he'd made calls earlier. It seems to me he used some kind of trick he may have read or heard about. I'm not familiar with I-phones, but I'm sure there are possibilities to turn on and off services like gps or airplane mode quickly. However, he only starts to make his calls to Buster etc. after he has passed the point where Maggies phone was thrown.
I also think that he did something clever with the phones. But the incomplete phone dump for his and the last GPS data for hers messed up a thing that he was truly proud of. Who makes the whole first interview about proving an alibi instead of trying to give information. His only concern in that interview was to make sure that the cops knew how solid his alibi was.
I felt he took her phone to make it look like a robbery gone wrong and got on that gold cart and took it to the spot. I dont think he thought they would use that find my phone app and find it so quick. He was hoping it would go dead and not be found. Just to give credibility to the two shooters or some one else doing it. Unfortunately for Alex things didnt go the way he planned
@@sallycinnamon5370 yes, exactly what I mean, I thought it was so obvious when he stressed that as an alibi. But hey, pure karma! Imagine his shock when he realized his whole smart alibi construction had been crushed. You know the phone also confirms to me that he did it alone. I would have thought there was someone with him had it not been for the phone found en route to Almeda. Had someone else been there he would have made sure that phone ended up further away and the other direction.
Good for these attorneys. All of this family's heinous crimes for decades. Well they all just happened to fall on Alex back murders for almost a century. And now the Murdoch legacy is over. Good job guys.💙😇😇💙
I don't think Alex took the weapons anywhere. Someone else took them. Alex makes a point that no one else was there, but I think there was someone there already with some rifles who blew Paul away
Can you imagine Paul's emotion as his dad was killing him!! Can you imagine Maggie seeing her son dead by his fathers hand and then him firing shots at her to kill her!! So so tragic!!
Why did the prosecution not request more phone data from Alex's phone the followng days after the murders to track where he could have gone to dispose of his clothing or the weapons?
the scariest part is that if the boat accident didnt happen, alex may never have been pushed to this point, and would live and die getting away with the other murders. so rich people can just push their employees down the stairs collect money and take it to the grave? how many like him are walking around uncaught ?
I wonder if Alex wanted to make the death of Paul look like an accident, but missed making him shoot again. Then had to kill Maggie in a way to cover it up
Alex made Maggie come out to Moselle that night by guilt tripping her. It wasn't an accident that she was there when he shot Paul. From the way he executed Maggie with multiple shots I think he hated her.
Makes total sense that the cold blooded murderer thought he would kill Paul with one shot,when he didn’t he imo fell backwards seeing Paul stumbling towards him had to take the second shot,as far as Maggie’s phone he wouldn’t have used her password to open it because both Paul and Maggie were dead and besides Maggie and Paul who else would know her password, Alex and data would record her phone being unlocked after her estimated time of death and Paul’s kennel video proved it
I truly believe he took those to Almeda and the caretaker said that night he was in his car outside for awhile and I believe he put that in that other house that was on the property and once he went back late that night with John Marvin and Buster to spend the night over at his parents he might have snuck out after they all went to bed and hid them real well on the property. Later moved them again.
First time watching Vinnie Politan. 1st impression: he loves the sound of his voice! The title of this video is "Prosecutors on What REALLY Happened." The prosecutors have only 25% of the 22 minutes sequence and the big star (VP) fills the rest with comments from a guest blogger!
Maggie's phone was evidence he murdered them (timing and speed of his driving coincided to when and where the phone was thrown)...not smart he took her phone and threw it on the side of the road.
After everything I've seen, Buster is the favorite, Paul brought too much attention and wasn't the favorite, and his wife wanted a divorce and she would have really taken him to the bank.
@ mark 11:06… It’s not “weird”… or odd concerning Maggie’s phone trying for “face recognition” when it’s picked up… NO MATTER if it’s the cell owner or not… if a phone is programmed to “Face Recognize”… the cell will try that FIRST when it is engaged… then the code will need to be used if the “facial recognition” is not responding… Alex picked up her cell… briefly looked at it… then put it back down… drove off… tossed it out… It’s a NO-brainer…
I don’t know about that Attorney General stepping into the spotlight, center stage, after the prosecution team worked so hard and won this case. He was a visitor, a guest! But now he wants to take the accolades, the acclaim! Whaaaa?
MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/trending/alex-murdaugh-family-murders/?
Vinnie do your credibility a pass by not talking to MGL,BHB,AND JLR. They will all be facing lawsuits you don’t want to be a part of!
@@janina8559 who..??
Did they ever investigate or ask WHERE HE GOT HIS PILLS 💊 FROM ???
@@janina8559 what do the initials stand for?
@@eloise22422 Molly Go Lightly, Jonathon Lee Riches,and Bullhorn Betty. They are Tragedy Pimps. He knows who they are!
Do you think both Paul and Maggie saw that it was Alex who killed them? I think that was the case and it’s so horrifically sad.
My Brother: Do you think Mallory Beach saw that it was Paul who killed her? I think that was the case and it’s so horrifically sad.
It's fair to say at least one of them did.
@@LDiamondz
My Brother: Do you think Mallory Beach saw that it was Paul who killed her? I think that was the case and it’s so horrifically sad.
Yes, they both seen who was shooting them. They may had been bad ppl, but nobody deserves to be killed like that.
Absolutely yes! Imagine their horror.
Alex said “whoever killed Paul had been thinking about it for a long time and hated him” I believe Alex was so angry with Paul because of him all his theft was coming out
kinda sens sling blade vibes.. I been studying on killin you
I think he was trying to "hint" that the murderer was someone from back when the girl died in the boating accident...someone like that who hated Paul and been thinking for a long time to kill him. Alex was trying to place the blame on people angry about the boating accident.
That was one of the few truthful things Alex Murdaugh said and was a window into his black heart and soul.
OMG I totally agree! I felt like he wanted everyone to think that he was referring to someone from the past or from the boat, but in truth I feel like he was just describing his own contempt. Freudian slip? Window to his soul for sure.
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Its very obvious from the court case that Murdaugh was a very powerful and influential person. This is why SLED tiptoed around him instead of treating him like they would have treated anyone else...
I think the investigators were so inept, and there was so much Reasonable Doubt, that it’s a Real Miracle the prosecutors could convince a jury with ZERO EVIDENCE. It’s not Alex’s fault the investigators were so inept.
@@wildmercuryfilms Thank God for Paul's phone, Bubba and "miracles".
It's said they were feared by many. In the Steven Smith case too. AM has a court case August for wrongful death August.
I hope the evil monster never see's the light of day.
SLED wad a total failure as main investigators on this case!!
In the Steven case as well
They were feared by many. AM acting like he still has power. Delusional freak.
The prosecution team was the best I've ever seen. Kept me on the edge of my seat..superb work..
Heck no they sucked especially Waters you would have thought this whole case was about his financial crimes that's all he talked about the entire time even after Alex already admitted to all of it that's all he could talk about even though this trial wasn't about his financial crimes, yes I can see him bringing it up because it was a motive but when that's the only thing he talked about it got really annoying and show that they really didn't have any evidence he gave me vibes of being jealous because Ally's in his family was very well-known and very successful until he did what he did he seemed jealous that he would never reach that status, he honestly sucked and if it wouldn't be for the fact that it was basically plain as day that he killed them he would have never won
@@kristibyerts5987 appears I'm right, they won..
I like that Creighton is a rock star and plays electric guitar in a band. He also handled the sound and video for the courtroom. And, he found a broken lectern they used which he had to glue back together. CW kept Alex talking so the Jury could understand how easy it is for Alex to lie. Each of his financial crime victims deserved to be mentioned during the proceedings.
@@2bcYT oh wow, I love him even more. I wonder if he's taken lol
Seriously good work. That prosecution team deserves major rewards, although I am sure they are quite rewarded for the justice that was given.
So happy that the jurors got it right.
Thank goodness
Yes yes thank God! AM is a heartless …
@@Altered4n892t Agree 💯
What a huge relief!
well hopefully they did. The only thing that would make this worse is to find out he was set up or something
Bubba and Paul solved his own murder 🐕 and his mothers. I was disgusted how Maggie was not characterized as a victim like Pa Pa was. Alec is also a misogynist…
yeah, that's the worst part, the misogyny.
Alec is disgusting!!! He felt nothing for his wife or son! I didn’t believe that pa Pa, Bus nor Maggs for one second! He did that as terms of endearment only for the trial.
What means Misogyny?
@@iTammy He hates women.
Maggie’s sisters testimony was hard to watch
I cannot imagine the number of people who have been hurt by this family over the last 100 years.
I hope it's not the case, but Buster's i.d. was used at the boat accident, and the boat case could have brought up anything else Buster could have been accused of. He only lived two hours away. He could have helped hide/get rid of things. I hope not. He did stick up for his dad. Seems like he would have been so angry with him for killing his mother and brother. Maybe he took up for him bc he was the only family member he had left.
Exactly
You don't have to be a scientist to understand that Alex took phone after shots, then while driving (45 mph) drove over into the left lane and pitched out the phone. The guy is guilty!
Always wondered why he didn't take Paul's phone 🤔
@@bettylockhart56 Good thing he didn't take Paul's phone.
Saying a theory being possible equates to guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is ridiculous. But even then, what you - as well as all of the other deranged con artists - are claiming amount to nothing more than unfathomable levels of dishonesty. After all, for Alex Murdaugh to be the one that shot both Paul and Maggie, he would have to: shot a moving target while moving on his knees while being an obese old man with knee problems; magically clean blood off of his entire body quickly; do an insane amount of things over the course of at most 16 minutes (because of course, prosecution never proved time of death beyond any reasonable doubt, only asserting the least inconvenient time for their dogshit case) in addition to what he is already doing; and teleport half a mile, among other things. All impossible feats.
Took Maggie's phone?
@@thisisme3238 I think he may have walked if so
The evidence with Maggie’s phone changed near the end of the trial when all the data from the phone companies and the OnStar from Alex’s vehicle became available. When they pulled all the data together and tracked them concurrently, the timing became more apparent.
Were Maggie’s phone and Alex’s phone following same coordinates before her phone was ditched?
Dude must have been peein his pants when he realized what they had on him: the video Paul took, Maggie’s phone, Blanca, body cam footage of his fake-ass, after 911, the snot keeps-a- runnin’ but no genuine tears or nuthin’ from his cold, dark, mean, ruthless eyes of his, not judgin’ but what a sorry excuse for a human😢
@@kel8129 When her phone was moving and he wasn't, it's because he was on the golf cart
And yet the cell phone expert was shown not to haven qualified. Did you miss that?
Kudos to the entire Prosecution Team and Judge Newman deserved a standing ovation for his input on Alex’s behavior and his supposed drug addiction! He was professional, nonbiased, and appropriate, as well as sympathetic for the victims was overall the satisfactory explanation of the entire trial! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Drugs can play a part but it was premeditated which needs no drugs
Oh I can’t praise this judge enough. I’ve watched probably close to numerous trials and he is by far my favorite judge of all! He knew this case inside out. He was thoughtful on his rulings and gave detailed reasons. I love his cool calm demeanor which speaks volumes! He also had full control of his courtroom at all times. He is highly respected and admired by colleagues. I wish I could shake his hand. This trial had to be extremely tough for him. He lost his son jan 2023 due to an unexpected heart issue. Now he’s been residing over a trial where a father slaughtered his son and wife. I can’t imagine what that must have been doing to him everyday. When he imposed sentence he spoke in his cool calm demeanor. He tried to show some empathy to Alex and he gave him sound advice asking “when will it end” he told him. What a Honorable Judge and man. If I had to describe Honorable Judge Newman in three words that would be eloquent, impeccable and classy!
@@eloise22422 this was his last year as a Judge! 🫶🫶🫶🫶
@@saphdiam I know. I’m going to watch some of his previous trials. I love to watch the judge in trials. I pay close attention to their rulings and I admired him from the start.
@Eloise I agree with you 100%,especially about Judge Newman.
Impressed with the information that one of the jurors came up to explain the odd upward angle of gun shot to Paul head. The raised sil plate in the storage room doorway may have caused Alex to trip over as he was backing up after the first shot was fired. This would have him firing from the ground. Brilliant observation from this juror as they went to the crime scene on request by the Defence Attorneys. It’s a good thing that Alex didn’t reach Rogan as he could of been the third victim.
But it was also explained that he had the guns leaning against the wall outside the feed room. After he shot Paul once, he thought that job was done. He leaned down to put the shotgun down and get the other gun, when Paul came walking toward the doorway. From that leaning position, Alex took the shotgun and shot Paul again. Put that gun down, switched guns, and shot Maggie as she was running towards them.
I also wondered if he was trying to kill Rogan next to get his phone evidence. Good thing he didn't answer.
So strange there were shell casings from a shotgun laying almost behind the door...not the direction they would land if the shooter was outside
@@terrarayner8766 That is because the gun was protruding into the room. The room was 10 feet to the window. Paul was standing halfway or 5 feet into the room. The firearm was several feet inside the feed room both times he shot for both shells to be ejected in the feed room then they rolled under the door. That first shot was so close the gunpowder burned Paul's shoulder. It's called stippling.
I think Alex was going to use Rogan somehow or another to lure him to the kennels during the time he wasn't going to be there and at his parent's house so that Rogan would have found the bodies instead of Alex and then have even been a suspect in the deaths. Horrifying to think about but thank GOD Rogan did not answer Alex's calls!!! Divine intervention for Rogan is my thought.
THE MORE I HEAR ABOUT THIS CASE, I AM SO THANKFUL TO THE PROSECUTION GOT THIS GUY OFF THE STREETS. I FOR ONE SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT KNOWING HE IS LOCKED FOR TWO LIFETIMES.
why would ' U ' sleep better? He was hardly gonna come and murder you was he? And he was not exactly someone "on the streets" so he's not "off the streets" ... he's out of his mansion.....stop personalizing , you prawn!
with all due respect he didn't represent a threat to people 'on the street' - he was just poisonous to his own family.
Little detective solved his and his mother's murder with that Snapchat video. Alex wasn't expecting that video, and if it hadn't of existed he may not have been found guilty. Why Alex would murder his wife and son so viciously , pretty hideously is beyond me. Now all these events involving AM are starting to unravel. It has opened up new possibilities in the cases of Stephen & Gloria due to Maggie and Pauls death. Rip to all the victims 🙏🏽 ♥ 🕊 May they get the justice they deserve.
This man took EVERYTHING away from the people who loved & trusted him. Smh
@@axxe1531 thank god he didn't.
The "little detective" aka Paul, literally "spoke from the grave" and solved his as well as his mother's deaths with the kennel video. Guess one could say, that video was "the smoking gun" that solved it once and for all to hear and see.
@@thisisme3238 💯 👏. He finally pinned down the monster with that recording.
To be clear, the snapshot video was taken about an hour before the murders and it was Paul's cellphone video that was taken minutes before the murders. The snapshot video proves Alex changed his clothes and the cell phone video proves he was there at the time of the murders. Both together prove he was the murderer.
The little detective also had blood on his hands and if he was still alive he would be in a cell just like his father. RIP I think not.
I think Alex planned on killing them earlier but Maggie stopped to get a pedicure, which he later learned from Paul. Then he rushed through it once they were together after eating dinner. They perhaps thought they were on their way to see Paul’s grandpa and grandma but Alex thought up an excuse to stop by the kennels first. He had no idea about Paul, Chase, and the video.
Exactly! 100%
Excellent observation!! I bet you're correct!
Yes when he and Paul were riding around around 5PM he was expecting Maggie earlier and that would have put the man who came to feed the dogs closer to the time frame he planned. He was the first person alex pointed toward to the officer on the scene
I can't imagine as a mother seeing my husband and father to my kids murder our son. I'd be in shock. I believe Alex took the phone and threw it as well.
Paul convicted his murdering father from the grave. So sad. Fly high Paul and Maggie. Prayers for Buster to heal in a positive way. 💔🙏
Fly high????? The whole dam family were arrogant and narcissistic. They ALL treated everyone else like crap. Oh, then there is bus bus who got tossed out of law school for cheating. What a great well adjusted family! NOT NOT NOT!
I don’t think this was a normal family/marriage. Maybe Paul was surprised his dad would kill him but I think Maggie knew and was about to leave AM.
It happens look at the case with the late Marvin Gaye the singer
This case made me hug my wife and son a little tighter.
As a father/protector I can’t imagine the fear they must have felt.
I hope he has fun in the DOC, South Carolina prison is nowhere you want to be
Me too. I been giving my husband exactly what he wants every since this trial. He would give his life for me and I had become complacent. I'm so blessed
@@ellen9925 aww that is so sweet Elle what a great wife
You r a good man
Any prison is nowhere anyone would want to be. It’s no surprise that inmates try to commit suicide, but most of those are attention seekers!
@@alvaroq2024 You don't know that. It's a horrific life they didn't bargain for.
Yes, God bless Bubba! He really was the MVP of this investigation! Paul also did his best detective work right up to his tragic death. We also have to remember that Cash was also a very valuable witness and big help in this case. Had it not been for his tail having a small injury, Paul wouldn't have been taking a video. Animals are so special and so devoted to us humans and they need to be treated with the same love and regard as they show us. Alex must be cursing Bubba in his cell. I'm glad he can't get to Bubba. I'm glad that this part of the Murdaugh saga is over and that that little town and it's people can (finally after 100 year's) be a better place.
Exactly!
Agree💯🐔🐕❤️💥🙏
I love how this all comes down to the dog witnesses.
And Blanca, the former housekeeper, got Bubba! He lives with her.
Don't forget the noble chicken.
Alex didn't know cell phone Data could be extracted at such a forensic level, and that is almost too ironic with him being an attorney.
Well SLED didn't put Maggie's phone in a faraday bag and lost GPS data.
GPS data from GM put Alex a half a mile away when Maggie's phone was thrown in the ditch.
@@angiejorah My best guess is that there may be 2 shooters then.
@@angiejorahWhere is this evidence & when was it shown? If that’s true then he literally could not have thrown it out the window as it was portrayed in court. Do you think Alex did it?
I know. Any criminal attorney worth their salt should be aware of what data can be pulled from OnStar and cells.
He's invincible- remember? Yes, he would carry the guns around. However, I don't think he would carry them around for several days. He went back to Almeda the next morning at 6:30, didn't he? Could be wrong, IDK. The defense worked for the prosecution. They made major mistakes. Harpootlian was ignorant, disorganized, stupid(to point a gun then make a joke), he came across as a doddering old fool. Plus their witnesses were impotent or bizarre.
Chicken be like: “Damn…I gave my life to catch that SOB. Give the chicken some love” 😅
When Law Enforcement arrived at the scene, Bubba was desperately trying to tell authorities to let him out so he could get the person responsible. The dogs knew and were trying to tell everyone. Watch the arriving LE bodycams... the dog is FRANTIC.
I agree
Nah Bubba was just barking. Dogs are smart buy they aren't that smart
Thank you to the pet dogs, bubba & cash. Had it not been for both of them there would be a) no video and b) no voice of Alex heard on video, which would both ultimately bring Alex murdaugh down. Imagine ultimately being busted for murdering 2 people because of 2 pet dogs. Lol. That is epic. Thank you puppy dogs 🙏 Great job 👏
Dogs are the best 🥹
Poor dogs. They got blamed for the Nannie’s death too.
@@independentcasting1 Agreed! Not anymore though…I think the story about that fall has now changed and he’s saying she no longer tripped over the dogs. Either way, the 2 pet dogs are the stars here…they changed the fate in the way this post-murder investigation & trial & jury decision played out and put a narcissistic psychopath behind bars for good.
I definitely think he washed them off and took the to his moms. Hide them lightly and started talking about how Paul leaves his guns everywhere in case they r found. Sled did blow it as far as not going there. I think they were gone right after second interview when Alex knew they knew the third gun was known about.
Means absolutely nothing these idiots out here thanking dogs to get the public’s hearts all warm and fuzzy bc they had 0 percent of a case with out trickery as agent liar bias owens had said. Amazing. Sleds home office should be out of Warner brothers studios lol
When Alex asked Buster to go hunt at Moselle during a jail phone call, I think he meant him to get the hidden weapons or clothes or something to get rid of them..
I think the investigators were so inept, and there was so much Reasonable Doubt, that it’s a Real Miracle the prosecutors could convince a jury with ZERO EVIDENCE. It’s not Alex’s fault the investigators were so inept.
I agree that Buster knows Alex killed them. Those guns and the bloody clothes and shoes are probably buried with Randolph Murdaugh
Great point.
I remember thinking that was odd.
It’s not the prosecutors or investors fault that Alex was at the crime mere minutes before the murder!
Has there been any follow-up on Shelley? Was she able to keep her job? I worry and think about her often, I’m sure many others do, too. Just want to make sure she’s doing ok. She was so brave, she’s a hero for Truth and Justice, even though Alex was threatening her employment at the school (his best friend is the principal there) as well as her employment with the family. God bless her.
Shelley could've been another one who had a "misfortunate accident
'and fell and died so alec could get more insurance money like he did with Gloria.
I read that her daughter set up a Go- fund for her and it raised thousands of dollars.😊
makes you wonder what he thought when he saw the type of damage he did to his sons body when he fired that second shot. To see your sons brain leap out of his body and land on the floor next to him? How he was able to function after that to kill Maggie is something that just bewilders me.
He was desperate! That's why he was able to do what he did. He did seem to get very emotional when the court was talking about Paul's body and his brain, because he was still shocked at what he done to Paul.
I think that is why he is able to get so emotional over Paul's death. He didn't expect to have to fire that second shot to the head and the image of the damage stuck with him.
Psychopaths always bewilder us, because we think from a normal perspective, they are souless robots who don't have these feelings of remorse. Like the Terminator.
Alex was only upset that he blew Paul’s head apart. It was not his intention. He intended to kill him on the first shot.
I agree. I have wondered igf,he wanted it to look like Paul had committed suicide and when that didn’t work out then he had to off Maggie, too. Not entirely sure he intended to kill her, too.
There was no ‘huge risk’ in taking the guns with him to Alameda since at that time the only one who knew about the murders was him. Odds he’d randomly run into a traffic stop on a lonely country road at night were extremely low, and even if he did, there wouldn’t be a reason to search his vehicle at that point in time. Besides, he always had one of his official solicitor’s badges close at hand.
They're not talking about huge risk having guns in vehicle night of murder. They mean moving them days or weeks after murders to dispose into water. Meaning, hiding them temporarily at Alameda night of murder....then dispose permanently
And the blue lights😂
People are forgetting he planned this entire thing. I think he had a hole dug or something already at alameda. And definitely took the guns apart the next morning @ 6 am. I think he had so much planned. And would have worked if he could have gotten rid of Paul’s phone. That darn video 🎉
It's not odd when you control that whole community and they wouldn't treat him like a suspect from the moment they encountered him. Even law enforcement was intimidated by who he was. This is what happens in a good Ole boy system. Now the law enforcement integrity in that community is questionable.
From my understanding…the only officer that wrote about Paul being the boat driver was fired shortly after ostensibly for something unrelated. It was known amongst officers that you don’t get on a Murdaugh’s bad side or you will find yourselves out of a livelihood in no time at all.
You may be right, BUT Law Enforcement was successful ~
@@sallycinnamon5370 AM and his family "ran" that town and all it's people.
@@kcoy7988 but after how many deaths?
This case is fascinating. Thank you for keeping us updated! We are watching!
They did a great job! So much work and dedication! Incredible
Alex, planned this for sometime. He basically told his sister-in-law that. He planned to kill both his son and his wife. He made sure they were there at the same time. He called Paul to come prepare for a hunting gathering that weekend and Maggie to go with him to see his dad who was dying. The perfect set-up. He spent time with Paul during the afternoon. Kinda a last good-bye. They must have had the guns with them at that time because he said they never went out without them because of the hogs. I think Alex was shaking from his withdrawals. (Alex himself said a person will do anything to get the pills to prevent the withdrawal symptoms) Those he had planned this overtime. It didn't go quite as he expected because he was having withdrawal. I think the guns were already out there in the side-side. Alex waited for Maggie to go around the building. He retrieved the guns. He was unsteady. Paul phone rang. He turns to the side to pull out his phone . Before he pulls the phone all the way out. Alex shoots him hitting him in the chest. Alex sees he is still alive he shoots again. Still shaking thinking if he hits his should it will go through and hit his heart and he will die instantly. When went through to the brain I think Alex was surprised. I think that is why he said " They did it bad I should have know." I think he was actually saying " I should have know the force and the damage it could cause. When Maggie turned the corner. Alex was shaking even more. Maggie was moving. He shot her where he could stop her then moved around still shaking. He hits her in the upper abdomen causing her to fall to her knees. Still shaking he aims at her hand and misses shooting her through the breast. He wanted to make sure she was dead so he got close-up and shot again. He could not let Maggie live. She knew to much about his activities of which I feel is much deeper than is know. If she left him. All that would come out. Alex said Paul's phone had come out of his pocket. He picked it up and tried to do something and he put it down. I think Paul was reaching for his phone and kinda turn to the side when Alex first shot him that is why when Paul fell the phone came out of his pocket. More than likely Alex hid the guns and clothing in the shrubs until he was able to get back the early the next morning to dispose of them. As a nurse I know families seldom visit dementia patient late evening or early mornings. If they are sleeping. You do not was to awaken them and if they are not sleeping they are usually very agitated at those hours. Just my opinion.
I thought he was using the addiction just so he could use that as an excuse that he wasnt stable mentally and not because he was really addicted? Also what was the real reason why he murdered both his family members? Sorry just curious as I'm new to this case.
how could he know that the killer had been planning it for a long time if all 3 of them being there that weekend was a last minute thing?
He was abusing the pills but not to the extent he claimed. That dosage would be incompatible with life. He more than likely was involved in the pills in a much deeper level. He planned the process of the crime. On June 7, 2021 everything fell into place. It was the perfect time. His Dad's condition deteriorated. A good excuse to get Maggie to come home. He planned a hunting gathering that weekend. He had Paul to come that day to.prepare for it. Perfect planning. Alex is an attorney so he knew he had to have them together. He had to do this alone. As an attorney he would know to have anyone else involved would be a weak link. They would have sold him out the first time they needed bargaining power and they could extort him. Something else I recall Alex stating to SLED. He said Maggie was late arriving because she had a doctor appointment. Alex knew that she had a pedicure that afternoon. Paul told him. I guess Alex thought telling them she had stomach problems and had seen a doctor was better than saying she had a mani/pedicure. Most people with financial problems don't spent $200 to $300 on mani/pedicures. Just my opinion.
@@shirleymadden-yg2dw I agree that he did it alone. No way would he trust anyone else for this. As far as her phone goes, most of us women don't keep our phone in a pocket on us. I wonder what she was wearing that night and if she had big enough pockets to hold a phone. He wouldn't have to touch her to get her phone, but I'm sure he picked it up. It makes no sense why a different killer would care about her phone. Alex probably had some kind of plan for her phone, but abandoned the idea and tossed it just as they said. I also agree with you on visiting anyone with dementia at that hour. It's often hard to get them to sleep at night and waking them is cruel, but he didn't care at all because he needed that alibi.
@Shirley.. So Alex told his sister in law he wanted to kill Maggie and Paul?
What will stay with me is hearing Alex in the Cash video asking, "What's the matter Paul?" & then hearing Paul say under his voice, "Shut up Dad". That speaks volumes to me - Alex trying to sound like he cares - and Paul seeing through it & showing how much respect he's lost for his father (by saying 'shut up Dad' to himself).
Even though AM is in prison for the murders, I still would like to see a family member or friend go find the guns & his clothes. It would still be pretty darn satisfying for that to happen.
Correct.
Hearing Alex ask his son what was the matter, just is so hurtful 💔 😢, and I mean, hurtful to me, I cannot even imagine Paul's and Maggie's last thoughts.
I didn't notice Paul ever say shut up dad, I'll have search for that.
@@deanb3033 it's about 16 seconds into the video after Paul says "Quit Cash, quit." Alex says, "What's the matter Paul?" then Paul mutters to himself, "Shut up Dad."
Also, strange why the prosecution went to such trouble to ask people whose voices they hear when Paul himself says, "Shut up Dad."
That would be great 🤜 I fear 😱 there at the bottom of the swamp
I think that AM and Maggie went down to the kennel together on the golf cart, and I think that AM had the weapons hid somewhere close to the kennel. Maggie I think was getting ready to divorce AM and he knew he would be found out financially. I think Paul had become a financial nightmare for AM and he thought with that last name he would get by with it
I think the investigators were so inept, and there was so much Reasonable Doubt, that it’s a Real Miracle the prosecutors could convince a jury with ZERO EVIDENCE. It’s not Alex’s fault the investigators were so inept.
Yes, Two financial burdens for AM: divorce and boating accident.
@wildmercuryfilms move there & apply to work for law enforcement yourself. Yes things could had been done better. However, alex knows how to disrupt a crime scene, no matter what it would had been a battle. Bcuz alex is a lying liar
He probably said he had to shoot chicken to cover gun noise from,Maggie.....I believe she was heading to her car....she came around corner and caught,Alex and ran to stop him....
Totally agree!!! He may have just had the weapons in the golf cart and no one thot it odd.
Buster knows , as soon as Alex M said to Buster on the phone "you know the phone calls ate recorded right " he's not as innocent and not at his fault
Utmost heartfelt respect for Judge Newman.
Do you guys not think, when Paul was shot, he screamed in agony for his mother? He knew who shot him.
Dont think he was able to shout out.
@@SS11660 You're probably right. The shot to chest most likely took his breath away.
He stood for a moment maybe realizing what happened. Then he walked forward, maybe he then wanted to shout for his mother or even warn her but then Alex saw him still being alive and gave him the final shot.
Testimony was given that there were 90 drops of blood in the feed room from when Paul was first shot as blood dripped down his arm and hand so he was definitely moving slowly as he ambled towards the door.
I think the shock that he was shot and the shooter was his father rendered Paul into a state of shock. I have heard many shooting victims say that they didn't feel any pain at first. So I don't believe there was agony from pain, only mental agony.
When AM was asking Buster if he wanted to go hunting on the property he was telling him on the sly to get the weapons and clothes he hid from the murder. He said the traps are full. Nobody in jail thinks about that.🤔
Why would he take such a chance?
ZsaZsa he was certainly signaling for buster to go out and check for something! Maybe even money!!
I’m thinking Alex had cash hidden there for Buster?
@@gidgetrose9251 and he’s doing that on a recorded phone call?
Officer Greene repeated to many officers it's a murdaugh revenge thing, ultimately hindering the investigation, officers walked around the crime area in the dark. The house and out buildings were not searched for a perp that night. Family and friends were moving all around the area. The entire property should have been left quardened off w guards onsite and investigators return in the early morning for further investigation.
And no one, anywhere, even AM was concerned about a shooter... standing around in the middle of the yard...
Thank you for interviewing the rest of the team 👌
Great show. It’s one thing to present a case and a lot of evidence is not seen by the jury, and DA has much more information than anyone else has ever seen.
Regarding the phone trying to do face recognition not adding up since Alex had the code... My fiance has face recognition as the primary way to unlock his phone. So if I go to use his phone when it's locked, it automatically tries to do the facial recognition first, and then it allows me to put in the code. Just a small flaw I heard during the rebuttal of the prosecutor's theory...
Maggie may have changed her password
@@iloke11 Alec gave sled the code to unlock the phone.
Bingo
My face recognition doesn’t work sometimes, too dark, my eyes are too puffy when I first wake up 😂 but I too can just put the code in after face recognition fails. I never set it up any specific way and use face recognition and pass code all the time interchangeably to get into my own phone…whatever works at the time
My iPhone does the same. Automatically tries the facial recognition and if it fails I can type in my code. Sometimes I’ll start typing in my code and it unlocks because it finally recognizes me
11:10 If Maggie had an iPhone, it would typically look for facial recognition immediately when the phone is picked up and in someone’s face. So, it would activate facial recognition automatically regardless if someone wants to put in the passcode. So I don’t find it odd that that would happen if Alex picked up her phone.
Don't iPhones take snapshots of people holding the phones periodically, or when someone picks it up?
@@juliaingeorgia No
What about the live drone footage of John Marvin and Buster removing them from the house.
That was taken months after the murders. The search of the house had already been done a long time before. If it had any relevance they would have charged them.
That was done with authorization from law enforcement.
Maggie's phone could have been on the golf cart - not with her. He didn't know until he was leaving, the phone was on the cart and at that point couldn't take it back. I feel the murders were at 8:50 and Alex was back at the house by 8:53 and the rotation was removing it from the cart, not Maggie.
Women often don't have big enough pockets on our clothes to keep a phone in, so it makes sense her phone wasn't on her.
I still don’t trust that Buster isn’t involved in some way. His demeanor is cold as ice. How could you sit through court like a statue without emotion when they are talking about your mother and brother.
I don’t think he was involved but don’t understand how he could sit everyday and listen to that evidence and not think he dad did it. I wonder what he was thinking about his mom and brother. His testifying was nothing and sad …
@@sunshinecheryll Because he love his father. He will deny it is his father until there is not even a shadow of a doubt. That is why jurors cannot have personal relationships with the accused. Any sliver of a chance, even 1 in a billion, would be enough that they could convince themselves that that is a reasonable doubt.
It’s not uncommon for the family of the accused. It’s just harder in this case because he is also the only surviving immediate family to the victims as well.
Yeah. Very odd.
I think Buster knows more then he saying. Maybe with the murder of Steven Smith idk 🤷♀️ I just have a gut feeling about it
If Buster was involved in ANY way, LE would have discovered it. They left no stone unturned. What you are doing is spreading rumors about someone who has not been charged because there is NO EVIDENCE. Please stick to the facts.
I understood the testimony to be that when Alex picked up Maggie's phone, it looked for facial recognition because that's how she would sign in. He would only be able to get in using a code. It seems the two events could have happened.
He could of put the phone in front of her face even though she was dead
I am so glad others are still stuck on understanding this case, like me!! I don't want to let it go yet. I want all the evidence of phones and GPS to be explained to know step by step what he did and how it was done. I am finding I was too absorbed in this case to quickly switch over to the Ice Cream Truck murderer...I haven't finished gnawing on the Murdaugh case yet!! Thank you!
The ice cream case is very interesting. The defense attorney is the most annoying ever…ugh
Right? It is hard for me to wrap my mind around how one person can commit so many horrible crimes without a conscious.
If you watch toward the end of the trial, the prosecutors share all the evidence regarding the phone data, on star evidence of Alex’s suburban, and Paul’s video proving Alex was there, and he shot them after the video at the dog kennels. Murdaugh Murders Podcast TH-cam channel has great details on this case. She was one of the first who questioned Alex’s crimes even before the murders.
@@bbe3034 I watched. And he DID do it. But I would like his and Maggie's steps re-enacted to see how it went down. And more about why the cellphones were behaving the way they did. And where the guns are, and his clothes. It IS possible that I am trying to rationally understand the events caused by an irrational man, but I want to understand.
Exactly, right? I have that same need. Alec's a monster!
"Two dogs and a chicken" - this has got to be the title of the next documentary. Also, please remember THREE were killed that night. The chicken did not survive Bubba Murdaugh.
I think Alex shot him in the chest. The force of the gun knocked him back a little bit, and he ( Alex)tripped over that little threshold, and landed on his rear end, and then shot up.
I agree and he probably had thought the first shot would knock Paul down and kill him and was surprised Paul was still standing and moving forward.
In one of the phone calls to Buster from Alex, while he's in jail, he seemed to really want Buster to check some deer feeders. He was really pressing him to do so. He could have hid the guns there.
As soon as they had Paul's phone it was the end in my opinion so NOT much work to prove he was guilty
The prosecutors did a fantastic job 👍👍👍👍
From the beginning, I thought that if anyone would have been shot, it might have been Alex and Paul because of their involvement with other murders and shenanigans. Why would anyone, other than Alex, have a motive to kill Maggie, as she had nothing to do with any of that. Then when Alex said on the witness stand, "I had to get out of there." I mean, what was the rush for him to feel that he had to get out of there? Then, all of his strange behaviors, immediately after the murders, running around setting up alibis. Perhaps they should have called in Scotland Yard and let Sherlock solve the mystery.
By far, this was the best video following this case.
At that point there was no justification to search his moms place, not until the first lie was proven
The justification is that we have an overwhelming amount of domestic crime going on/the laws need to change. If you have nothing to hide…you hide nothing!!!!
Plus, they wouldn’t have sufficient evidence to search top prosecutor family home! Likely a Judge wouldn’t approve warrant. Besides the fact that his Dad died a couple of days after murders. Again, investigators would have backed off for sympathy reasons, giving AM more time to move guns. (Or family).
He intended to kill Maggie. That is why he told her to come to Moselle. She owned or was co-owner of properties that Alex needed to sell
I agree that Alex took the weapons to Almeda the night of the murders, and then when he returned the following day or two, he had more of a chance to really dump the weapons. I think he also took his clothing he was wearing when he committed the murders. I think he took the clothing over that night after the murders and put them directly into the trash barrels at Almeda.
I didn’t believe Alex had done it till the very end with the time line. I was believing the tears and performance by Alex. I thought Alex was mentally unstable due to the deaths. The time line was the clincher for me.
I knew when he was being talked to in truck and when he was so calm after cops arrived.....
It’s just so crazy to think how desperate Alex was !!!! To kill ur wife & son !! How do u even let ur mind go there ? 😢
I didn't trust him from day one. Then the kennel video really did him in.
I found the first interview to be odd and seemed suspicious
I knew it the minute they said family guns were used and then the kennel video sealed the deal.
As for the timeline, Waters did a great job of showing he HAD to be there during the murders, there was no way around it.
I hope I live to see the day that weapons are uncovered or accidentally discovered as well as anything else over at Almeda. I have no idea why they just left everything off the table over there but I hope one day before I die that the gun mystery is solved.
Vinnie: It has been so great to have you back on Court TV. Love your coverage always!
That video was his undoing and he had no idea it existed, so he lies thinking he's all set. It's obvious it couldn't have been anyone but him. His story had no credibility, he can't remember the last conversation. Can't remember what he was doing when his phone logged all those steps. So he just managed to leave directly before his family were killed? He then lies to police about it. It's crystal clear there is no secret killer out these.
I do agree that whomever did the investigation really botched it. They didn’t search the mom’s house, they didn’t close off the crime scene properly, allowed a bunch of lawyers into the crime scene and the house. They didn’t search the house properly or right away, they left evidence at the crime scene. They left huge gaps in the theory of the crime, that they didn’t bother to investigate or explain. They should’ve worked harder to obtain physical evidence, murder weapons etc. They relied too heavily on circumstantial evidence, and luckily they had a jury with common sense.
It would have been almost impossible to get search warrant for that property
Alex knew that
It wouldn’t be that hard, considering what was going on.
@@royalbatch497 research their law
My speculations are, Alec was going thru with drawls at the ball game just the day prior to the murders. So how did he have a bag of pills right after the murders while talking to the police as he says? I think that Paul found more of Alex’s pills and had them in his pocket and refused to give them back to him. Alec angry and in a drug fueled panic pick up a gun and shoots him, Alec falls to his knees crying at what he’s done and delivers the second shot to Paul from a low angle. Maggie hears the shot comes running and Alec shoots her. Then Alec goes to Paul and retrieves his baggie of pills out of Paul’s pocket pulling his phone out to get the pills.
Bingo 🎯 I agree 💯
He wasn't on that many pills .....there is no way! I think he had a cocaine habit
@@suza3675 It's Possible
yep
Remember, he called Maggie earlier to come out to Moselle and she thought something was weird. And having two guns not one in their deaths sounds very preplanned. I think he was planning this for a while and the night before is when he really decided to murder them on the 7th.
Yes he would have rode around with the guns because he was over confident with himself as well as his entitlement and being an untouched all of his life
Even more sad 😔 than the murders is how no one has acknowledged Paul & Maggie since their deaths, no headstones, no flowers 💐 , memorials, 😔
This lack of respect for his mom and brother, for Mr proves that Buster is a clone of his father and is just as cold and arrogant. I hope the Smith investigation gets the truth out and that justice for his family can be provided. So much pain caused by one family. 😢
Just as an aside, it typically takes 3-6 months for headstones to be craved and installed. They may well be there by now.
I was listening to the Murdaugh Murders podcast and something Alex said while testifying is very interesting. It sounds like he’s apologizing for something bigger to me.
Alex actual words: “On June the 7th (long pause)… I wasn’t thinking clearly. I don’t think I was capable of reason. And I lied about being down there (the kennels) And I’m so sorry that I did. I’m so sorry to my son Buster. I’m sorry to Granmar and Papa T (Maggie’s parents). I’m sorry to both of our families. And most of all, I’m sorry to Maggs and Pau Pau. I would never intentionally do anything to hurt either one of them. Ever. Ever.”
To me it sounds like he’s saying, On June 7th I was very high, incapable of reason, i.e. my actions weren’t rational. I’m so sorry to our family and MOST OF ALL Maggie and Paul. I would never have killed them if I had been in my right mind. i.e would never intentionally hurt them.
Could be, but he recovered very fast if that was the case. Maybe he forgot that he was at the kennels and it wasn't a lie
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He also said "he went to do what he didnt want to do" referring to going to the kennel that night. He saw no other way out. Pauls Lawsuit was going to break them (Tinsley told him that day he was going after all of their moneys) & Maggs was going to divorce him after she found out about the embezzlement- she had already been looking into their finances for several reason & he wanted to refi her homes (EB & Moselle) but she refused, etc. If he could hav pulled off the murders, he would still be a lawyer in good standing (sell the houses for $$ to pay back - Maggs left them to AM), everyone would feel sorry for "the poor widower" & the boat case would hav gone away. He would hav a clean slate & plenty of $$.
@@ShalomShalom-d5c You should be a detective!! Your thoughts & comments are spot on.
I absolutely think Alex disposed of the guns and clothing in some body of water probably the ocean where the likelihood they would never be found. Sled did not have him under survelliance at that time.
Alameda wasn't searched right away, he quickly hid them there, went back later and moved them IMO
The caregiver say he was back early in morning moving cars around in yard. He probably took on of his dad's vehicles down to swamp and threw the guns.
John Meadors is by far my favorite. His closing arguments were very clear, easy to follow and straight to the point.❤
when the audio played with Alex saying come here bubba trial was over
Awesome show
All the homes in this family have names. A level of affluence I can’t even imagine. And they want us to believe they were normal people who weren’t holding all the power because of their wealth?
You all fail to give Cash his credits. It was because of Cash's tail issue that a video was being recorded. All three animals, Cash, Bubba, and the chicken, conspired to break this case. The chicken sacrificed her own life to the cause. Animals are amazing.
Rewatching the trial and if there's one thing that can be said it's that SLED and the sheriff's office messed up when it came to securing the scene, failing to properly secure Maggie's phone, and most importantly failing to execute a search warrant immediately on Alex's parents' house when he told them that was where he'd been. I'm not the only one that believes he wrapped the guns up in that raincoat and left it at his parents house. As ONSTAR showed during the trial he slowed down on their driveway on the way up to the house and then parked by some out buildings for a few minutes prior to calling Shelly to let him in.
A TH-camr that did a series on these murders put up a drone and captured Buster and John Marvin removing firearms from the house and on a different day filmed Alex arriving at his parents' home only to leave minutes later in his father's truck which DID NOT have ONSAT. He returned shortly afterward and switched back to his vehicle and left. That was before the warrant was finally executed. If only they had acted that night. As for Maggie's phone I don't think he meant to take it. That always bugged me cause why take hers and not Paul's? For that reason I believe she had left it in the ATV and after Alex shot them he was in such a rush to get back to the house he didn't notice it was in the seat or cup holder til he got to the house. He couldn't take it back as he didn't have the time and he couldn't afford to drive his Suburban by the kennels because of the ONSTAR so he decided to throw it out as he left probably forgetting Buster at least had an app for finding your phone. If not for the improper handling of the evidence - turning it completely off or putting it in the Faraday bag - the phone would have lined up with Alex's and the GPS data could have been obtained. Another blown opportunity.
Someone definitely had a part in helping get rid of evidence! The question is who?
The guns are probably buried someplace. He probably had a hole dug and ready for them.
Pick an attorney, any attorney...
@@s_a_r_a_jd2204, just out of amusement who would you suggest?
My bet is John Marvin. It makes no sense for him to have headed off to Moselle by himself the next morning - early- after staying with Alex and buster at Almeda the night before. He didn’t even have his own vehicle with him. Why wouldn’t they have stuck together for moral support and travelled there together? Instead John Marvin heads over there way early in the morning, by himself.
@@debbie2520 that makes total sense. I've also questioned why how brought up sunflowers had been recently planted. AM suggested he go deer hunting and Buster said he didn't wanna go over there. Ol’ persistent Alex M. then quickly mentioned Dove hunting at Moselle again, and then ask if BM mcares if he let's “JIM” go out there and BM says, “Jim who?” Am says,”Jim Griffin” my attorney!
He's a good con, got that gift of gab, he's a power money hungry narcissistic mongrel!
The Guy is as guilty as sin!
I think the investigators were so inept, and there was so much Reasonable Doubt, that it’s a Real Miracle the prosecutors could convince a jury with ZERO EVIDENCE. It’s not Alex’s fault the investigators were so inept.
@@wildmercuryfilms copy and pasted all over the comments
@@denisegarrison4207
Hey Brother, Please don’t freak.
I think Paul shouted/screamed after the first shot and that's what got Maggie's attn as well as the shot.11:33 that's buckshot on the phone she had it and dropped it when she got shot. He shoots Paul knowing Maggie will come to her baby, he doesn't have to chase her then.
If you unexpectedly get hit in the chest with a shot gun blast you probably are in shock and not saying anything. Maggie would have heard the gun go off and run to the sound to see what happened. She probably thought it went off accidentally and Alex or Paul could be hurt but when she saw or heard the second shot she would realize it wasn't an accident.
I think he's wrong about AM throwing her phone out because panicked, I believe he had a plan and a trick to "not have her phone traveling with his", which was to be the pillar of his alibi and that is the only reason her phone was taken at all. He often said "you will see that her phone never traveled with mine". I believe firmly he took her phone on the golf cart to near the main entrance and left it there near the columns. He then raced on to the house, took shower etc. and picked her phone up when he left the main entrance in the suburban. He'd call her one more time right bevor he picked it up, ended the call while it was still getting connected and turned his phone off or put it into airplane mode immediately. He then stopped by the entrance, picked up her phone from the floor and drove out. He knew that driving out into the road is also where a short stop doesn't seem suspicious. When he picked it up he may have had something in his car that would have blocked her phone from signals, maybe a metal case. Because he now, at this point, connected his phone to the car (Interesting, the FBI said he connected a third time at this point) Although he'd made calls earlier. It seems to me he used some kind of trick he may have read or heard about. I'm not familiar with I-phones, but I'm sure there are possibilities to turn on and off services like gps or airplane mode quickly. However, he only starts to make his calls to Buster etc. after he has passed the point where Maggies phone was thrown.
I also think that he did something clever with the phones. But the incomplete phone dump for his and the last GPS data for hers messed up a thing that he was truly proud of.
Who makes the whole first interview about proving an alibi instead of trying to give information. His only concern in that interview was to make sure that the cops knew how solid his alibi was.
I felt he took her phone to make it look like a robbery gone wrong and got on that gold cart and took it to the spot. I dont think he thought they would use that find my phone app and find it so quick. He was hoping it would go dead and not be found. Just to give credibility to the two shooters or some one else doing it. Unfortunately for Alex things didnt go the way he planned
@@sallycinnamon5370 yes, exactly what I mean, I thought it was so obvious when he stressed that as an alibi. But hey, pure karma! Imagine his shock when he realized his whole smart alibi construction had been crushed. You know the phone also confirms to me that he did it alone. I would have thought there was someone with him had it not been for the phone found en route to Almeda. Had someone else been there he would have made sure that phone ended up further away and the other direction.
21:35 You had me at “Kibler Elf” 🤣🤣🤣
Good for these attorneys. All of this family's heinous crimes for decades. Well they all just happened to fall on Alex back murders for almost a century. And now the Murdoch legacy is over. Good job guys.💙😇😇💙
🤣🤣🤣 nothing's over. you do not think people with a brain and a heart will allow these lies to linger, do you? 😂😂😂
They should have had a detective watching him at all times. Unbelievable how he was able to dispose of the weapons after he killed them!
@Tara Mcgavan He didn't get rid of them that night. He just hid them in that blue jacket at his mom's.
I don't think Alex took the weapons anywhere. Someone else took them. Alex makes a point that no one else was there, but I think there was someone there already with some rifles who blew Paul away
where were the search helicopters ?
Can you imagine Paul's emotion as his dad was killing him!! Can you imagine Maggie seeing her son dead by his fathers hand and then him firing shots at her to kill her!!
So so tragic!!
I don’t think Paul had much time to think about anything. He probably did’ nt realize what was happening until he was dead.
Alex Murdaugh thought he was untouchable. He did it
A lot of us down here in the LowCountry think he put them in his daddy’s casket before he was lowered in the ground!
Why did the prosecution not request more phone data from Alex's phone the followng days after the murders to track where he could have gone to dispose of his clothing or the weapons?
Exactly
I don't know when they requested it, but it takes time. I heard that mentioned in his third interview, but of course, Alex would know that.
the scariest part is that if the boat accident didnt happen, alex may never have been pushed to this point, and would live and die getting away with the other murders. so rich people can just push their employees down the stairs collect money and take it to the grave? how many like him are walking around uncaught ?
too much from the podcaster and not enough from the prosecution team.
totaly agree that 5"2 theroy from defense was most rediculous things , if 5"2 guy can do it why not 5"3 etc....
The local news need to report situations like this every time instead of allowing national news to report it.
I wonder if Alex wanted to make the death of Paul look like an accident, but missed making him shoot again. Then had to kill Maggie in a way to cover it up
Alex made Maggie come out to Moselle that night by guilt tripping her. It wasn't an accident that she was there when he shot Paul. From the way he executed Maggie with multiple shots I think he hated her.
He's an idiot 😜
Can we all just agree that Vinny is the best host ever? So much energy and passion laced with just being a cool 😎 I see why you hold that seat Vinny!
Makes total sense that the cold blooded murderer thought he would kill Paul with one shot,when he didn’t he imo fell backwards seeing Paul stumbling towards him had to take the second shot,as far as Maggie’s phone he wouldn’t have used her password to open it because both Paul and Maggie were dead and besides Maggie and Paul who else would know her password, Alex and data would record her phone being unlocked after her estimated time of death and Paul’s kennel video proved it
I truly believe he took those to Almeda and the caretaker said that night he was in his car outside for awhile and I believe he put that in that other house that was on the property and once he went back late that night with John Marvin and Buster to spend the night over at his parents he might have snuck out after they all went to bed and hid them real well on the property. Later moved them again.
First time watching Vinnie Politan. 1st impression: he loves the sound of his voice! The title of this video is "Prosecutors on What REALLY Happened." The prosecutors have only 25% of the 22 minutes sequence and the big star (VP) fills the rest with comments from a guest blogger!
Yeah, he’s always been pretty impressed with himself!
@@miamimice6572 It's also the last time I'll ever be bowled over by this "sanctimonious genius"!
Maggie's phone was evidence he murdered them (timing and speed of his driving coincided to when and where the phone was thrown)...not smart he took her phone and threw it on the side of the road.
After everything I've seen, Buster is the favorite, Paul brought too much attention and wasn't the favorite, and his wife wanted a divorce and she would have really taken him to the bank.
Anybody know what he did in key west a month after murders? And any ideas on the receipt for a Gucci bag they found in his trash?
@ mark 11:06…
It’s not “weird”… or odd concerning Maggie’s phone trying for “face recognition” when it’s picked up…
NO MATTER if it’s the cell owner or not… if a phone is programmed to “Face Recognize”… the cell will try that FIRST when it is engaged… then the code will need to be used if the “facial recognition” is not responding…
Alex picked up her cell… briefly looked at it… then put it back down… drove off… tossed it out…
It’s a NO-brainer…
I don’t know about that Attorney General stepping into the spotlight, center stage, after the prosecution team worked so hard and won this case. He was a visitor, a guest! But now he wants to take the accolades, the acclaim! Whaaaa?
He had been there the whole trial helping at the table. He stepped in so Waters could work on his closing statement for the next day.
He's a typical politician. His assistants do all the real work and he wants to take the credit.
He was there the whole trial, gave his team complete credit and only examined a witness so give waters a break because waters asked him.