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What if we post our songs in facebook immediately after we write it...and then later on release it..doing this even if in case someone has your song copied you will be able to show that you have it posted already...kinda raw version..
ALERT: Be very careful after you register your works. After registration your works are made 'PUBLIC' which includes your name, title of works, even your address and telephone number. Anyone in the world can see it. A shady person claiming to be from a shady company can call you and state that they are a 'middle man' between the creator and the US Copyright office. They will ask you for hundreds of dollars to 'finish' registering your works! Hang up and if you can report. Contact the Copyright office directly to ask questions. The criminals usually will try to call newly registered creators before the Copyright Office send the official certification. Just a heads up. Peace.
thewinter-woah,I thought I was paranoid but now you bring it to another level, never use your real personal info, create another email music related only,get an artist named and official it. But we learn everyday and teach others also. I just learnt something new by reading you here. Cheers.
I was involved in a copyright infringement case in the US. Even though we had all the documentation and everything proving beyond any doubt that it was our work it took 1 1/2 years of fighting a corporation with a lawyer to get paid and we didn't even get paid the full amount. Yes, copyright your music but truth is once somebody steals it is going to be a long and expensive fight to get what was taken from you,
Extra Stuff Extra Stuff Yes. That’s like when somebody is accused of a crime they just don’t throw them in jail, everything has to go through a legal process. We eventually had to sue an ad agency, Macy’s and the individual that stole the music. At that point they paid attention. By the time we got our money it was almost a year and a half.
Roman Rojas: Curious, did you *timely* register your music with the US Copyright Office, either BEFORE the copyright infringement started OR within three-months of its first-publication date? Or did you miss that registration window and could only pursue *actual damages* and the infringer/s profits from the unlicensed music usage?
@@cnlicnli The song was actually a remake, a cover of an old Xmas song from Spain. But when you are dealing with an ad agency and you do a job for them there’s all kinds of documents that you have to sign and also emails between the composers and the production team that serves as a paper trail so you can back your claim. We also had dated protools session confirming the date of creation. With all that on our side it was still a fight that took almost one year and a half. In other words, it’s never that simple even when you registerer your song. And lawyers are expensive as well. I highly recommend becoming a member of Volunteer Layers For The Arts if you ever run into trouble.
I entered a songwriting competition when I was 13 that a record company advertised to win a recording and release in the studio and got told I didn’t get anywhere in it later that year they released my song exactly how it was written the same melody and lyrics it got to 27 in the Uk charts for a few days and then bombed out of the 50s position I’ve written over 1000 songs and petrified to release anything I don’t trust anyone and even if you do take people to court it costs you more in the long run unless the music is a massive hit and also people change the melody slightly and swap a couple of lyrics and loose the case and be in debt!
I totally agree with you and I wrote a great song and someone wanted to remix my song and pretended to be my friend and I allowed them to do that and I didn’t fully understand what they were asking of me to do in return because no contract was sent out to me and they terms were unclear. But now i understand copyrighting all my originals should be my number one priority and so should it be for everyone else to !
Thank you so much Charles! This video was super helpful! I recently created a song with the help and support of my friend and plan to post it on my YT channel. Before posting the song I first wanted to understand what copyright is and how I can use it to protect my music.
Thank you Charles! My remaining question , Could I upload a rough recording to the website just for a reference and to get the rights , and then when I go to remix/pretty it up, not have to upload and pay another fee for the remix if I already own the rights to the first recording? Or does a whole new recording of that song have to have a copy right? Thank you for your time !
It depends on the circumstances and maybe the region as well. This is a question for the copyright office and the music distribution service you intend to use. I would think the short answer is no, as long as the 2 songs are structurally the same. Don't quote me, though. I'm not an expert.
Hey Charles! Amazingly helpful video. Question: right now all I have is a few songs written (not recorded) that I'd like to be on my first album. Should I copyright the lyrics and then record the actual songs or wait to copyright until I have the songs recorded?
Hey this was pretty useful. I just wanted to ask you a question though. I make beats for fun and I think they are pretty sick and I was just wondering, if I wanted to turn my beats into a reality and send my beats to famous artists, before I send it to those artists should I get an official copyright document for my beats or after I send the beats to the famous artists and if they end up using my beat which is unlikely will they do the copyright for the song and the beat?
That's a great question John. For beats specifically I'm not so familiar with. Let's say you made beat for a famous artist I think they would probably prefer to pay you out outright for the beat for a fixed fee or they could consider giving you a split on the publishing or master rights of the song. Are you on beat stars or another platform selling your beats already?
You can't copyright a beat as a composition, you can only copyright the recording itself so nobody can steal your recording. Anyone can use a beat, it doesn't belong to anyone. The only exception would be if it was something extremely unusual.
In the UK this is an excerpt directly from the Govt. website. You get copyright protection automatically - you don’t have to apply or pay a fee. There isn’t a register of copyright works in the UK. You automatically get copyright protection when you create:
@justjames1111 wrote, “You get [UK] copyright protection automatically - you don’t have to apply or pay a fee. There isn’t a register of copyright works in the UK. You automatically get copyright protection when you create” That’s the *same* copyright protocol in the US. In fact, the US, UK, EU, and other Berne Convention copyright treaty member countries (about 170 of them) grant an automatic copyright upon creating qualified works of authorship. BTW, how to you actually (legally) know your UK work is copyrightable? The US copyright registration system is very much a “vetting” process that helps authenticate your US copyright validity. By timely registering your works, you’re statutorily granted *“presumptive legal proof” (prima facie evidence)* that you created the work and own its corresponding copyright. It’s not the original or RAW file that necessarily proves your copyright ownership claims, as those files and “time-stamping” documents can be faked. On the other hand, it’s tough (impossible???) to fabricate a USCO issued “Certificate of Registration” (that the USCO will mail you), as a backup copy is also stored in the USCO’s on-line Public Catalog database that the public can access & review. Though international Berne (UK) creatives do NOT have to register their works with the US Copyright Office (USCO) to have “legal standing” to pursue US-based copyright infringers in a US federal court, they, like their American counter-part, can ONLY pursue “actual damages” (typically the missed licensing fee which can be minuscule) and the “disgorgement of unlawful profits” the US infringer made (IF ANY!) + the copyright owner’s attorney fees are NOT available. As a general rule, both actual damages and recoupment of infringer’s profit will typically NOT cover your US attorney fees, making it, too often, un-economical to chase US-based copyright infringers for money damages. Most all US copyright infringement disputes are resolved out of court via private settlement, as the cost to litigate is ENORMOUS. It’s rare to see a copyright infringement dispute travel all the way to a trial verdict. Having a timely registration in-hand encourages (pushes!) American infringers to settle out of court. If a non-Fair Use copyright infringer chooses not to settle and the copyright owner prevails post trial, the infringer is liable for US$750 to US$30,000 and up to US$150,000 for *WILLFUL* copyright infringement + the copyright owner’s attorney fees & legal costs. To mitigate their legal & financial exposure, most all US copyright infringers who are facing a timely registered copyright claim will want to quickly settle out of court and quietly move on. A timely USCO registration provides both US and international creatives with the necessary *LEVERAGE* to obtain money damages from US copyright infringers. Joshua Kaufman is a Washington, DC copyright attorney/litigator. In his short TH-cam video, he addresses the economics of NOT timely registering your works: th-cam.com/video/cBOKkrleY3Y/w-d-xo.html I have to believe that a USCO “Certificate of Registration” issued by the US Copyright Office could be used to help prove your own UK copyright validity. I also have to believe that the UK and other Berne courts would respect & honor documents issued by the US Copyright Office, an official United States government entity. So, if you’re listing, selling, licensing, or sharing/distributing your UK work on US-based platforms, you *really, really* need to have a timely registered copyright to be able to pursue US infringers form money damages and possibly your attorney fees. *WATERMARKS:* It’s advantageous to also affix your posted works with your copyright attribution (with URL and/or social media handle), a watermark (logo), licensing information, ROBUST metadata, and/or other *“Copyright Management Information”* (CMI). *US-based copyright infringers who knowingly remove, cover-up, or change CMI (watermarks) with AI, Photoshop or any editing software to hide their copyright infringements or induce others to infringed, can be liable for the copyright owner’s actual money damages and profits OR US$2,500 to US$25,000 in statutory damages PLUS attorney fees PLUS legal costs (at the court’s discretion).* A timely registered copyright claim is NOT required to pursue CMI (DMCA) violators. So, if you choose NOT to timely register your UK works with the USCO, at the very least, affix them with some type of CMI to give you some legal recourse against American infringers.
Singer, songwriter here too and I appreciate your video! I have copyrighted quite a few songs at one time year ago but am presently doing a refresh! Thanks!
I have 2 questions 1. What if the song is uploaded on several channel's before you copyright it? what will happen to them after you copyright it? 2. Can you like uncopyright your own music after copyrighting it?
In theory if you upload your original song via soundcloud, youtube, or other platform you are also copyrighting your music there. You can see the upload date which is proof that you were the first to upload your particular song. Right?
Thanks for posting this. I just found it, and up to now, I've only had a "poor man's copyright"...but it was so long ago, I only had them on a cassette! I'd rather go the official route. Appreciate this information. Very straightforward.
The *US Copyright Office* states, “The practice of sending a copy of your own work to yourself is sometimes called a “poor man’s copyright.” There is no provision in the copyright law regarding any such type of protection, and it is *NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR REGISTRATION* [emphasis added].
This was a tremendously helpful video! I have a question: if we send an album as a copyright rather than each individual song on the album would that cover each song legally and result in a lower cost? Thank you so much!
@@CharlesCleyn when you say register each song separately on the album do you mean that I will have to create a separate application for each song like you would when registering a single song or there’s a way to register each song for the larger bodies of work options?
The problem is that if your song isn't big...it can get stolen without getting noticed, but for example if kygo released a song and then a month later there's a dude who copied his song it will be obvious...but if you are not well known - it can get stolen by someone bigger, and he'll get the credit
not if you have proof of copyright. That’s why copyright exists. If kygo steals a song you wrote and you can prove it then you can go to battle with them
great video can u do a video showing the actual upload process of a new song or beat like how u upload the song meaning do they accept one mp4 file and your done ....or do you have to upload other files to prove in depth you made the song meaning more then just a mp4 ect thank you
Question: Do I have to go through the copyright process for every track/beat I make and intend on releasing? Or can I copyright my name and/or work as a whole to where it will cover future stuff as well.
@@CharlesCleyn if I make an original beat that isn’t made into a song yet, wouldn’t I want to copyright the beat? So ppl can’t just take n use my beats
Good info, thanks. One question, if I post a composition on TH-cam, that’s basically a copyright.. right?. The posting date is there, so I would think that would count for something. Or not?
Can I copyright an album before I release it? I've heard that if you copyright something when it's unpublished, then you have to get another copyright for it when it is published, but to me this doesn't make any sense because if you release something and then copyright it after, somebody could steal it, which defeats the purpose of copyrighting it in the first place.
Cubesandoldstuff wrote, “Can I copyright [register!] an album before I release it? Yes, you can. I timely register my photographs as a group of *UNpublished* images in a single eCO (on-line) copyright registration application with the US Copyright Office (USCO), as that option better fits my workflow. I’ll wait at least two-days BEFORE I post (publish) any of those UNpublished photographs to the web or my social media sites (to sell, share, license, etc.) -- you can *NOT* register an unpublished work, say on June 2nd, and then “publish” it (sell or share it) on that very SAME day! You can also register your works as being “published.” You could post them on-line for sale or licensing or sharing, but quickly register them as a “published” work with the USCO, and do it no later than within three-months of its first day of publication. Cubesandoldstuff wrote, “I've heard that if you copyright [register!] something when it's unpublished, then you have to get another copyright for it when it is published” No that’s incorrect. Once you register an UNpublished work with the USCO, you do NOT have to register it when it gets officially published (when you start selling, licensing, sharing, etc. to the public). If, however, you’ve changed the unpublished registered work by adding new creative material to it, you should register this “derivative” (new) work with the USCO. In the US, when you timely register your copyrights (here before publication or within five-years of first-publication), you’re granted *“presumptive legal proof”* that that you have a valid registered copyright claim AND that all the information included in your (on-line) copyright registration application will also be deem to valid - a US federal judge needs to see your issued copyright “Certificate of Registration” BEFORE you can file suit in federal court. *You help PROVE your copyright creation and its authorship by quickly registering it with the USCO* ! Use the *“Group Registration of Unpublished Works”* to register a “group” of up to TEN *UNpublished* creative works of the same medium type (like ten music compositions and its corresponding sound recordings); the total fee is $85 (not $85 for each work) (do NOT use this application to register photographs): th-cam.com/video/eR14iSM4esQ/w-d-xo.html To register ONE un-/published creative work (music) (“Single Application”) with one author who’s the same copyright claimant, that’s NOT a Work-For-Hire project, with no third-party creative media included, is $45 total fee: th-cam.com/video/MkBiPQNDVBc/w-d-xo.html . Otherwise, to register ONE work (“Standard Application”) with joint-authors and/or Creative Commons, Public Domain, and/or licensed media, or is part of a work-for-hire project, the fee is $65: th-cam.com/video/6gNkssUfYas/w-d-xo.html *If you music is being infringed (stolen), do NOT ask TH-cam, Facebook, and other social media sites for legal advice - most all of it is wrong! Get a copyright attorney to help protect your music compositions and sound recordings* . Joshua Kauffman, copyright attorney expert, explains why you and other creatives should (timely) register your copyrights: th-cam.com/video/cBOKkrleY3Y/w-d-xo.html *Copyright Registration Info & Tips* -- Copyright Registration: th-cam.com/video/mM5fs2TCMKs/w-d-xo.html -- Submitting Your Work to the USCO: th-cam.com/video/0w29otj5s6Y/w-d-xo.html -- USCO Registration Portal: www.copyright.gov/registration/ -- USCO FAQ: www.copyright.gov/help/faq/index.html -- US Ccpyright law basics: www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf --Contact (email) the US Copyright Office for assistance (might take five-days or longer to receive a reply): www.copyright.gov/help/ You can also call the USCO, but your wait-time can be long: (202) 707-3000 or 1 (877) 476-0778.
Thanks for the information. What about the electronic music like playing 1 hour on youtube live? Should I register the live improvising music? Is it possible? Also I make short youtube intro music by myself, then I noticed people seemed to copy a little bit of it. How do I prevent it?
Hey guys, I wanted to give some feedback on your video. When I clicked on it, I was hoping to learn how to copyright a song. However, I felt disappointed when I realized that half of the video was spent on explaining what copyright is. I think most people who click on your video already know the basics of copyright. My suggestion is to stick to the title of the video because that's what people use to decide whether to watch or not. If the title says "how to copyright," it would be better to focus solely on that topic, as some viewers may not have time to watch unrelated content. Just thought I'd share this perspective with you.
Hi Charles, thanks for uploading so much cool stuff on your channel. It’s really dope. Do you know if I can register House instrumentals I made in Logic ? I’m using only MIDI instruments by the way ? Thanks dude
As a Canadian do you use the Canadian or American copyright website or does it even matter which one to use? The reason I ask is because I am a Canadian also and it seems to me that the American website is way easier to use.
Hey, thank you for this video, very concise and helpful. I have a question. You say that they will mail you a certificate. Do you know if this actual certificate itself (the physical piece of paper) is overly important, or if the registration itself with the office is enough? I ask because I suppose that these letters can get lost during international shipping and in case that happens, it would be good to know if courts would acknowledge the registration itself that they, I suppose, could check with the office directly or something?
Hey, it’s a good question. I don’t know the answer but my assumption is that you’ll be backed up with the online registration might be enough. On the other hand, the real documents look very official so it might be really old school and you need the paper to back it up.
@@CharlesCleyn Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. You are right, perhaps it is old school. I'll try to sort this out somehow. Would be so cool to have protection by the mere registration alone. Thanks!
Exiled Monastic wrote, “You say that they will mail you a certificate. Do you know if this actual certificate itself (the physical piece of paper) is overly important, or if the registration itself with the office is enough?” You’ll need either the original issued-copyright *“Certificate of Registration”* or a copy to have legal standing (the legal right) to file a copyright infringement suit in the US. Of critical importance will be your “effective date of registration” (the day your music was officially REGISTERED with the US Copyright Office (USCO) that’s listed on your Certificate. Your registration is also posted to the USCO’s on-line Public Catalog (its URL is off-line/not working as I type this) that contains similar information, but is formatted much differently than your actual printed Certificate. I place my original issued-Certificates in my bank’s safety deposit box, and I make back-up copies that are stored in my office files. As of December 7, 2020, you can order extra Certificates of Registration for US$55 each. Exiled Monastic wrote, “I ask because I suppose that these letters can get lost during international shipping and in case that happens, it would be good to know if courts would acknowledge the registration itself that they, I suppose, could check with the office directly or something? The USCO routinely mails Certificates to international creatives. If you feel your Certificate is being delayed, search the Public Catalog (enter your last name, first name). If it’s listed there, then your Certificate should be on the way to you. Contact the USCO if you have questions either here www.copyright.gov/help/ or here (202) 707-3000 or 1 (877) 476-0778 (toll free).
@@cnlicnli That was detailed and helpful, thank you. So, if I understand this in a correct way, it means that I need the physical document in order to have legal grounds, but at least it's possible to get a new certificate if the original gets lost. Again thank you for your time.
Valentino Kitchen wrote, “…if I made my song, then uploaded it onto TH-cam, would that be proof that I had made it o the date of that upload?” Probably not. Your evidence of your song creation, or mailed CD to yourself in a SASE, or using your computer email to time-stamp your musical creation, or the date of your TH-cam upload will typically not hold up in federal court, as that evidence can easily be manipulated (faked). Those recording actions are *NOT* substitutes to *officially registering your songs with the US Copyright Office (USCO).* To be fully protected by copyright law against copyright infringers, you MUST *“timely”* register your music copyrights with the USCO. In the US, creatives help PROVE their copyright creation and copyright ownership claims to a federal judge by quickly registering their works with the USCO (registered as an unpublished work or registered within five-years of first-publication), as this statutorily grants them “prime facie evidence” (“presumptive legal proof”). See 17 USC § 410 (Registration of claim and issuance of certificate & 17 USC 506(e): False Representation [Criminal Offenses]). The US copyright registration system is very much a vetting process to help authenticate your copyright validity. It’s not necessarily about having a RAW or original file that proves your copyright creation - a US federal judge MUST see your ISSUED copyright “Certificate of Registration” (or its refusal) to have “legal standing” (the right to sue copyright infringers). Your Certificate will include your “effective date of registration,” the official US government date stamp. *If you register more quickly, you get additional legal benefits.* If your non-Fair Use infringed work was *“timely”* registered with the USCO, here either BEFORE the infringement began OR registered WITHIN three-months of its first-date of publication, you can pursue statutory damages ($750 to $30,000 and up to $150,000 for willful copyright infringement) and attorney fees against the infringer (the infringer may have to pay your attorney fees and legal cost post trial). See 17 USC § 412 (Registration as prerequisite to certain remedies for infringement). If you miss either of these two very time-sensitive windows to register, you can ONLY pursue “actual damages,” typically the missed licensing fee (usually what you would have charged), and the disgorgement of profits the infringer made (if any!) from reproducing your music. Importantly, you’re responsible for your attorney fees and other legal costs! As a rule, any money damages received from an out-of-court settlement or via trial verdict will NOT cover your attorney fees, making it, too often, *uneconomical to pursue copyright infringers without having a timely registered copyright in-hand.* Watch JUST the first 20-seconds of Joshua Kaufman’s copyright video tutorial to understand why you have to timely register your copyrights: th-cam.com/video/cBOKkrleY3Y/w-d-xo.html
Great video, my question is, If you already copyrighted your lyrics prior to making your sound, do you still add your lyrics or do you only have to upload your sound?
The best bet is to copyright your music as a Sound Recording . That way you can get an album full of songs copyrighted on one application. If you write a lot of songs, you will spend a fortune copyrighting them one at a time . So doing the Sound Recording will copyright a bunch of songs at once. I've done as many as 10 songs on one application and then at the end of the process you can upload mp3's to complete the copyright. I don't know if there is a set limit on the number of songs per one application but I know I've done at least 10.
Isn't the "seal" broken when you have to prove your the copyright holder for one of those 10 songs ? I heard that copyright for the rest of the album will be useless or is that bs? The album is bundled into one submission right?
@@oggfish Well all the songs are uploaded and accepted by the copyright office so you have a notice from the office with the name of each of the songs you uploaded. I used to put Collection of Songs in the title and took credit for arranging them writing and singing them . I just copyrighted another bunch of songs a month ago. It was a little different then a couple years ago as I felt I had to use the first song on my list as the title. but I still was able to upload 8 other songs and I did get e-mail notice that all the songs were successfully uploaded .So anyway that's how I've been doing it for many years. And yes it is like an album in one submission. You are copyrighting both the songs and your recording of them. I don't think proving copyright for any one song takes away your rights as the writer and performer of the other songs . That's something I've never heard before.
Hey great video and thank you for the advice ! Does it matter where I register my copyright ? I live in Canada, so Im wondering if it would it be more advantagous to register my copyright in the USA over Canada ? Would it make a difference if I registered in both ? If no to both Im just going to register in Canada. I would apperciate any advice on this ! Thanks
Polo Brothers writes, “Does it matter where I register my copyright ? I live in Canada, so Im wondering if it would it be more advantagous to register my copyright in the USA over Canada ? Ideally, you should register your music compositions and sound-recordings in *BOTH* Canada & the US, if you have the time and financial resources. If you have to choose one country to register, I’d go with the US, as it’s the place where your music will mostly likely be infringed/exploited. *It’s advantageous to contact a Canadian copyright (music) attorney to best guide you.* Here are US copyright registration tips & fees: The information provided here is current as of July 2, 2021 or check with the US Copyright Office (USCO): www.copyright.gov Keep in mind that you’re *“registering”* your music with the USCO; you’re *NOT* “copyrighting” it! You already have an automatic *copyright* upon creating the musical composition and/or sound-recording whether in Canada or elsewhere. Here’s the direct US Copyright Office (USCO) link for copyright registration fees (CLICK on the “registration” tab): copyright.gov/about/fees.html The fee to register ONE un-/published work (like one book or one illustration or one photograph or one painting or one cartoon or one poem or one song) with one author who’s the same copyright claimant, that’s not a-work-for-hire project, that does not include any third-party creative media, is us$45. Use the *“Single Application”* (on-line eCO application): th-cam.com/video/MkBiPQNDVBc/w-d-xo.html Otherwise, to register a single un-/published work with multiple authors, and/or as a derivative/collective work, and/or that includes CC, Public Domain, and/or licensed media, etc., the fee is us$65. Use the *“Standard Application”* (on-line eCO application): th-cam.com/video/6gNkssUfYas/w-d-xo.html To register a group of up to TEN un-published works of the SAME category type, like visual arts with the one-line “Group Registration of Unpublished Works” (GRUW) application. You can also register up to TEN un-published song compositions and their corresponding un-published sound-recordings (up to 20 total) and the fee is us85 total. You can *NOT* include any published works in the GRUW copyright registration application: www.copyright.gov/gruw/ and th-cam.com/video/eR14iSM4esQ/w-d-xo.html The Copyright Office has implemented a new group registration option for musical works that are PUBLISHED on the same album; the fee is us$65. Registrations of these works can be involved. See tutorials www.copyright.gov/gram/ and th-cam.com/video/PB9o3BKMWpc/w-d-xo.html The Canadian copyright registration system is not as robust as the US. And it may be more expensive to register your musical works in Canada, as Canada may not allow “group-registrations” for a single filing fee (but I’m not sure). Follow these links: www.canada.ca/en/services/business/ip/copyright.html www.heerlaw.com/copyright-faq FYI: I’m out of PQ -- Go Habs!
"Hello", I live in Canada, and I just wrote a song that I intend to use on a video for my TH-cam channel. I enjoyed your video and found it helpful , but have a question. After I apply for and receive my copyright. How do I ensure that someone doesn't challenge it, based on the fact my song title is the same as theirs? I see the title I used ("My Home Away From Home") on my song ... has been used many times here on videos already. What about song titles, or that line being in the verses? And what about music, because I have to get someone else to create the music for my song. Basically( simple country acoustic)Thank You!
Well, I don‘t quite agree with your statement. The fact that I‘m writing a song for the first time or like you mentioned, being a beginner songwriter, doesn‘t mean that it might not have the success comparing to an experienced songwriter or musician, right?. I assume you get my point. But I do have a question? Instead of getting a certified copyright on my song and having to pay for it, wouldn‘t it be enough if I date the paper I wrote on? Worst case scenario would be that the court would have to verify the document or am I completely wrong?
Ed Mirza wrote, “Will that also work [US registered music] as proof all over the world?” Each country has its own copyright laws and regulations. An issued-copyright “Certificate of Registration” that the US Copyright Office will mail you only has legal authority in the US. *However, with the US Copyright Office being an official entity of the US government, I have to believe that your issued-copyright Certificate of Registration could be used in countries outside the US as (legal) proof of your copyright creation and copyright ownership claims. Your issued Certificate could be especially helpful if your country does not have a formal copyright registration system.* *I encourage all international creatives to timely register their works with the US Copyright Office for this and other benefits.* Ed Mirza wrote, “How much does it cost for each song on copyright.gov?” US copyright registration fees are current as I write this on December 7, 2020: The fee to register ONE un-/published work (like one song or one book or one article or one photograph or one painting or one cartoon or one poem) with one author who’s the same copyright claimant, that’s not a-work-for-hire project, and that does not include any third-party creative media, is US$45. Use the “Single Application” (on-line eCO application): th-cam.com/video/MkBiPQNDVBc/w-d-xo.html Otherwise, to register a single work (one song or one sound recording) with multiple authors and/or CC, Public Domain, and/or licensed media, etc., the fee is US$65. Use the “Standard Application” (on-line eCO application): th-cam.com/video/6gNkssUfYas/w-d-xo.html To register a group of up to TEN UN-published music works (you can register up to TEN UN-published sound recordings together with their UN-published musical work - they MUST ALL be UN-published!), the fee is US$85 total: th-cam.com/video/eR14iSM4esQ/w-d-xo.html Here are a few official USCO (music) registration links: www.copyright.gov/registration/performing-arts/ www.copyright.gov/circs/circ24.pdf www.copyright.gov/gruw/gruw-frequently-asked-questions.pdf www.copyright.gov/gruw/gruw-eligibility-requirements.pdf
Hello. I just created my 1st TH-cam channel and I want to use an opening song to my videos that I wrote. I want to make sure no one else uses it. Thank you for this video, extremely helpful information.
Great video. Thank you for sharing. QQ: What if I have a demo version of a song that i'm not ready to Master yet...if I get a copyright in the demo form does that mean when the song is fully mastered (with no changes to the structure of the song) will I have to get a second copyright once the song has been Mixed/Mastered), thanks again.
I think you’d need 2 copyrights yes because you can think of them as completely different recordings. For my demos I never get them copyrighted if that gives you some piece of mine
Hey charles ! I am a Beat Producer and a Rapper used my beat for free, thats fine ! but the problem is that his Channel is Monetized. he is getting profit from my Work. what can i do ?????
Hi, Charles. I have a serious question. I want to produce music as a hobby and I don't want to earn anything off of it, though I don't want anyone else to profit from my work. I also don't feel like copyrighting future tracks because it isn't free, and I am fine with others using my music in monetized videos. What should I do?
Same. I'd like to see my songs being used in other people's videos BUT some jerk can steal the song and copyright it themselves. Happens all the time if you use samples aka someone releases a short sample that's meant to be used free for profit in other artists's work, then someone who used that sample registers the song, then everyone who used the same sample gets copystriked even though the songs are different. I still can't find anyone who can answer this
Okay so the entire point of copyrighting something is to provide tangible documentation in regards to when and by who something was created that will hold up in court. Would registering a song through a performance rights organization like BMI or ASCAP not provide reliable evidence for the date and creator of an intellectual property? It doesn’t look like it according to the research I’ve done, but I feel like the idea makes sense.
Charles Cleyn wrote, “I think if you had a reasonable judge in court, then they would recognise this as copyright.” Copyright is a federal issue, not state. If your matter pertains to a (copyright) CONTRACT, a state court may have jurisdiction. However, if your copyright issue is before a federal judge, the judge MUST see your issued-copyright *“Certificate of Registration”* to accept your copyright creation and ownership claims. You help PROVE your copyrights by quickly registering your creative works with the US Copyright Office.
Dwyn Lo wrote, “Would registering a song through a performance rights organization like BMI or ASCAP not provide reliable evidence for the date and creator of an intellectual property?” If you want to obtain the best LEGAL *evidence,* “timely” (quickly) “register” your materials with the US Copyright Office (USCO)! In the US, songwriters (and all other creatives) help *PROVE* their music compositions and/or sound-recording creation and copyright ownership claims to a federal judge by quickly registering their works (NOT *“copyrighting”* - you already have an *automatic* copyright upon creating/affixing the work to a recording, analog or digital) with the USCO, as that grants them *“prime facie evidence” (“presumptive legal proof”).* See 17 USC § 410 (Registration of claim and issuance of certificate) & 17 USC 506(e) (False Representation [Criminal Offenses]). The US copyright registration system is very much a vetting process that helps authenticate your copyright validity. In the US, it’s not the original digital or RAW file that necessarily proves your copyright ownership/creation claims, but rather your issued-copyright Certificate of Registration - that’s US federal law! Creatives and others who *knowingly* include false material information in their copyright registration application are committing a federal offense. Your Certificate will include the date the USCO *”registered”* (not copyrighted) your compositions, and that’s your *presumptive legal proof* of your music creation. It’s unwise to submit your music to one of the PROs without FIRST getting it IMMEDIATELY registered with the USCO.
i’m not a bad person but this guy has a beat but he stopped his beat making and he’s not replying or seeing any of my messages to buy his beat he hasn’t been making beats over a year almost 2 years
So it's means that if somebody use my song in his youtube video and afterwards he got my claim and I got all his revenue generated by my song. But how do I get that money in my hands I mean how I get paid by that copyright Plz help me 🙏😭
Hey, so if somebody uses your song in their youtube video and you want to get the revenue from that video then you'll need to be signed up for 'youtube monetization' with your music distributor. You can do this on DisrtoKid, for example, once you're signed for that that, the music distributor will handle it for you. However, there are other services you can use too, most of the time they will take 10-20% of the revenue for the service.
Yes you would have to have the copyright to collect royalties, essentially making money off the track. You are right in saying that it is publishing so when you release you music, you will have to accept terms that says you own the rights to the music you’re releasing.
So, I need to register it with the library of Congress? If so, do I send them a recording? If so, broadcast quality? Sheet music? Lyric sheet? I appreciate you taking the time with what must seem like very elementary questions
@@darrellhall4175 No problem, happy to help, I'd first suggest watching the video again as I cover these issues but happy to re-iterate here. Basically, you don't need a copyright but you will if you want to 100% officially prove something in court that it is your. If so, you'll need to go to your country copyright office, in the US, it's copyright.gov and copyright your work. It will depend on what info you need to provide to prove its your based on what you're submitting. For examples, songs require an upload of the songs and lyrics I believe.
Range Of Circle wrote, “I heard that uploading your song onto youtube even if its set as unlisted, it gives you the proof that its your work. Is that right?” *NO, that’s a myth!* You help *PROVE* your music creation and its corresponding copyright ownership claim by *quickly(!)* registering the work with the US Copyright Office. Your proof is in your issued-copyright *Certificate of Registration” that you receive in the mail from the US Copyright Office -- That’s federal copyright law. Using the poor man’s copyright, blockchain, or third-party services that “time-stamp” your creative works are *NOT substitutes to timely registering your creative works with the US Copyright Office.*
sadly in my country they asking me to get it played on the radio or they cant help me. its very sad here in Trinidad and Tobago. I would register it in a different country yes
Hey man! I write songs and would like to offer them to an artist, can I register just the lyrics to protect myself when I show the artist? If they decide to buy the song, do I hand over the copyright paper or am I just selling the rights to USE it?
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What if we post our songs in facebook immediately after we write it...and then later on release it..doing this even if in case someone has your song copied you will be able to show that you have it posted already...kinda raw version..
How about if your from the Philippines and you registered to Copyright.gov are they able to send me a letter through mail?
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ALERT: Be very careful after you register your works. After registration your works are made 'PUBLIC' which includes your name, title of works, even your address and telephone number. Anyone in the world can see it. A shady person claiming to be from a shady company can call you and state that they are a 'middle man' between the creator and the US Copyright office. They will ask you for hundreds of dollars to 'finish' registering your works! Hang up and if you can report. Contact the Copyright office directly to ask questions. The criminals usually will try to call newly registered creators before the Copyright Office send the official certification. Just a heads up. Peace.
That’s crazy, thanks for the details
thewinter-woah,I thought I was paranoid but now you bring it to another level,
never use your real personal info,
create another email music related only,get an artist named and official it.
But we learn everyday and teach others also.
I just learnt something new by reading you here.
Cheers.
@@stevedamien638 Definitely bro.
By address do you mean location?
So you are telling me that if i make a copyrigth on my song. Then everyone can see my adres name and other stuff?
I was involved in a copyright infringement case in the US. Even though we had all the documentation and everything proving beyond any doubt that it was our work it took 1 1/2 years of fighting a corporation with a lawyer to get paid and we didn't even get paid the full amount. Yes, copyright your music but truth is once somebody steals it is going to be a long and expensive fight to get what was taken from you,
So even after you guys got copyright for your music it was still stolen?
Extra Stuff Extra Stuff Yes. That’s like when somebody is accused of a crime they just don’t throw them in jail, everything has to go through a legal process. We eventually had to sue an ad agency, Macy’s and the individual that stole the music. At that point they paid attention. By the time we got our money it was almost a year and a half.
@@AskenOrbital My music that was stolen was used for broadcast tv and cable only, no internet.
Roman Rojas: Curious, did you *timely* register your music with the US Copyright Office, either BEFORE the copyright infringement started OR within three-months of its first-publication date? Or did you miss that registration window and could only pursue *actual damages* and the infringer/s profits from the unlicensed music usage?
@@cnlicnli The song was actually a remake, a cover of an old Xmas song from Spain. But when you are dealing with an ad agency and you do a job for them there’s all kinds of documents that you have to sign and also emails between the composers and the production team that serves as a paper trail so you can back your claim. We also had dated protools session confirming the date of creation. With all that on our side it was still a fight that took almost one year and a half. In other words, it’s never that simple even when you registerer your song. And lawyers are expensive as well. I highly recommend becoming a member of Volunteer Layers For The Arts if you ever run into trouble.
I’m thinking of the future when I’ll need this when I’m famous with my music so it’s good to know now and be rdy
exactly, got to plan for the future!
Same here
Same!
Yup!
Thanks I also subscribed to you
Someone: wants to plagiarize
Copyright: I’m about to end this mans beautiful Sunday afternoon
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Nice one lool
I entered a songwriting competition when I was 13 that a record company advertised to win a recording and release in the studio and got told I didn’t get anywhere in it later that year they released my song exactly how it was written the same melody and lyrics it got to 27 in the Uk charts for a few days and then bombed out of the 50s position I’ve written over 1000 songs and petrified to release anything I don’t trust anyone and even if you do take people to court it costs you more in the long run unless the music is a massive hit and also people change the melody slightly and swap a couple of lyrics and loose the case and be in debt!
You are correct
I totally agree with you and I wrote a great song and someone wanted to remix my song and pretended to be my friend and I allowed them to do that and I didn’t fully understand what they were asking of me to do in return because no contract was sent out to me and they terms were unclear. But now i understand copyrighting all my originals should be my number one priority and so should it be for everyone else to !
Great video to explain in simple terms how to protect one's music . Thanks much Sir Charles!
You're welcome!
Thank you so much Charles! This video was super helpful! I recently created a song with the help and support of my friend and plan to post it on my YT channel. Before posting the song I first wanted to understand what copyright is and how I can use it to protect my music.
Did you copywriter it
I was planning on doing the same thing. Did you upload to TH-cam music, or did you just create a channel and uploaded it there?
Thanks brother! I write songs, but i have no experience or talent for composing or singing the lyrics, this was great help!
Do you need copyrights for beats
When I make a copyright should I select the type of work as Sound recording, or Work of the arts. I made a song using a free for profit beat.
I think you would be best to go with a sound recording that's what most people copyright their songs as
Charles Cleyn alright thanks, very helpful video👌
@@CharlesCleyn should we pay to makw copyright
Always straight to the point. Thanks bro 🙌🏼
you're welcome!
Thank you Charles!
My remaining question , Could I upload a rough recording to the website just for a reference and to get the rights , and then when I go to remix/pretty it up, not have to upload and pay another fee for the remix if I already own the rights to the first recording?
Or does a whole new recording of that song have to have a copy right?
Thank you for your time !
It depends on the circumstances and maybe the region as well. This is a question for the copyright office and the music distribution service you intend to use. I would think the short answer is no, as long as the 2 songs are structurally the same. Don't quote me, though. I'm not an expert.
I like how vivid you were about creating a song at a kitchen table with your acoustic. Almost like you've done exactly that before lol
appreciate the help! my first two songs weren't as good as the new bangers im coming out w fr so I need to copyright cuz they going on the radio soon.
That’s wassup bruh!!! Keep pushing!💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Thanks for this. I ve revisited this subject over and over since high school.
It's a complex subject for sure
Thanx my boa I’m about to do that right now! You explained the process simple and plain💯
I just started singing yesterday now I know how to make sure my music doesn't get copied thanks for the video
Hey Charles! Amazingly helpful video. Question: right now all I have is a few songs written (not recorded) that I'd like to be on my first album. Should I copyright the lyrics and then record the actual songs or wait to copyright until I have the songs recorded?
Hey Penny, my personal suggestion would be to wait until you have the songs + lyrics, that way you can copyright both.
Thank you! Straight to the point. I love that! I’m now a new subscriber.
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Thanks for this Charles, great video, you and Dean's (the songwriting studio's) videos are my fave.❤
Thanks a lot fire bird :)
@@CharlesCleyn You're welcome!👍❤️
Hey this was pretty useful. I just wanted to ask you a question though. I make beats for fun and I think they are pretty sick and I was just wondering, if I wanted to turn my beats into a reality and send my beats to famous artists, before I send it to those artists should I get an official copyright document for my beats or after I send the beats to the famous artists and if they end up using my beat which is unlikely will they do the copyright for the song and the beat?
That's a great question John. For beats specifically I'm not so familiar with. Let's say you made beat for a famous artist I think they would probably prefer to pay you out outright for the beat for a fixed fee or they could consider giving you a split on the publishing or master rights of the song. Are you on beat stars or another platform selling your beats already?
You can't copyright a beat as a composition, you can only copyright the recording itself so nobody can steal your recording. Anyone can use a beat, it doesn't belong to anyone. The only exception would be if it was something extremely unusual.
In the UK this is an excerpt directly from the Govt. website.
You get copyright protection automatically - you don’t have to apply or pay a fee. There isn’t a register of copyright works in the UK.
You automatically get copyright protection when you create:
@justjames1111 wrote, “You get [UK] copyright protection automatically - you don’t have to apply or pay a fee. There isn’t a register of copyright works in the UK. You automatically get copyright protection when you create”
That’s the *same* copyright protocol in the US. In fact, the US, UK, EU, and other Berne Convention copyright treaty member countries (about 170 of them) grant an automatic copyright upon creating qualified works of authorship.
BTW, how to you actually (legally) know your UK work is copyrightable?
The US copyright registration system is very much a “vetting” process that helps authenticate your US copyright validity. By timely registering your works, you’re statutorily granted *“presumptive legal proof” (prima facie evidence)* that you created the work and own its corresponding copyright. It’s not the original or RAW file that necessarily proves your copyright ownership claims, as those files and “time-stamping” documents can be faked. On the other hand, it’s tough (impossible???) to fabricate a USCO issued “Certificate of Registration” (that the USCO will mail you), as a backup copy is also stored in the USCO’s on-line Public Catalog database that the public can access & review.
Though international Berne (UK) creatives do NOT have to register their works with the US Copyright Office (USCO) to have “legal standing” to pursue US-based copyright infringers in a US federal court, they, like their American counter-part, can ONLY pursue “actual damages” (typically the missed licensing fee which can be minuscule) and the “disgorgement of unlawful profits” the US infringer made (IF ANY!) + the copyright owner’s attorney fees are NOT available. As a general rule, both actual damages and recoupment of infringer’s profit will typically NOT cover your US attorney fees, making it, too often, un-economical to chase US-based copyright infringers for money damages.
Most all US copyright infringement disputes are resolved out of court via private settlement, as the cost to litigate is ENORMOUS. It’s rare to see a copyright infringement dispute travel all the way to a trial verdict. Having a timely registration in-hand encourages (pushes!) American infringers to settle out of court. If a non-Fair Use copyright infringer chooses not to settle and the copyright owner prevails post trial, the infringer is liable for US$750 to US$30,000 and up to US$150,000 for *WILLFUL* copyright infringement + the copyright owner’s attorney fees & legal costs. To mitigate their legal & financial exposure, most all US copyright infringers who are facing a timely registered copyright claim will want to quickly settle out of court and quietly move on. A timely USCO registration provides both US and international creatives with the necessary *LEVERAGE* to obtain money damages from US copyright infringers.
Joshua Kaufman is a Washington, DC copyright attorney/litigator. In his short TH-cam video, he addresses the economics of NOT timely registering your works: th-cam.com/video/cBOKkrleY3Y/w-d-xo.html
I have to believe that a USCO “Certificate of Registration” issued by the US Copyright Office could be used to help prove your own UK copyright validity. I also have to believe that the UK and other Berne courts would respect & honor documents issued by the US Copyright Office, an official United States government entity.
So, if you’re listing, selling, licensing, or sharing/distributing your UK work on US-based platforms, you *really, really* need to have a timely registered copyright to be able to pursue US infringers form money damages and possibly your attorney fees.
*WATERMARKS:* It’s advantageous to also affix your posted works with your copyright attribution (with URL and/or social media handle), a watermark (logo), licensing information, ROBUST metadata, and/or other *“Copyright Management Information”* (CMI). *US-based copyright infringers who knowingly remove, cover-up, or change CMI (watermarks) with AI, Photoshop or any editing software to hide their copyright infringements or induce others to infringed, can be liable for the copyright owner’s actual money damages and profits OR US$2,500 to US$25,000 in statutory damages PLUS attorney fees PLUS legal costs (at the court’s discretion).* A timely registered copyright claim is NOT required to pursue CMI (DMCA) violators.
So, if you choose NOT to timely register your UK works with the USCO, at the very least, affix them with some type of CMI to give you some legal recourse against American infringers.
Singer, songwriter here too and I appreciate your video! I have copyrighted quite a few songs at one time year ago but am presently doing a refresh! Thanks!
You're welcome Danny :)
I have 2 questions
1. What if the song is uploaded on several channel's before you copyright it? what will happen to them after you copyright it?
2. Can you like uncopyright your own music after copyrighting it?
you can copyright at anytime and yes I believe you can take your copyright down from the site but there won’t be any refund
In theory if you upload your original song via soundcloud, youtube, or other platform you are also copyrighting your music there. You can see the upload date which is proof that you were the first to upload your particular song. Right?
That’s what I’m saying but I’m not sure I wish I knew for sure
Thank you for answering my question clearly and precisely 😊
Thank you for this it's ridiculous the amount of stuff you need to know for uploading anything with a single beat to TH-cam. ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
Thanks for posting this. I just found it, and up to now, I've only had a "poor man's copyright"...but it was so long ago, I only had them on a cassette! I'd rather go the official route. Appreciate this information. Very straightforward.
The *US Copyright Office* states, “The practice of sending a copy of your own work to yourself is sometimes called a “poor man’s copyright.” There is no provision in the copyright law regarding any such type of protection, and it is *NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR REGISTRATION* [emphasis added].
This was a tremendously helpful video! I have a question: if we send an album as a copyright rather than each individual song on the album would that cover each song legally and result in a lower cost? Thank you so much!
You would have to copyright each song separately under the album but yes I believe there is a small discount depending on how big your album is.
@@CharlesCleyn Thank you so much!! :D
@@CharlesCleyn when you say register each song separately on the album do you mean that I will have to create a separate application for each song like you would when registering a single song or there’s a way to register each song for the larger bodies of work options?
@@RobbieNewell I have been told up to 10 songs on 1 application for $65, (for US copyright )this was changed very recently
The problem is that if your song isn't big...it can get stolen without getting noticed, but for example if kygo released a song and then a month later there's a dude who copied his song it will be obvious...but if you are not well known - it can get stolen by someone bigger, and he'll get the credit
not if you have proof of copyright. That’s why copyright exists. If kygo steals a song you wrote and you can prove it then you can go to battle with them
I gave you the 1k like, it feels so strange
awesome
great video can u do a video showing the actual upload process of a new song or beat like how u upload the song meaning do they accept one mp4 file and your done ....or do you have to upload other files to prove in depth you made the song meaning more then just a mp4 ect thank you
Question: Do I have to go through the copyright process for every track/beat I make and intend on releasing? Or can I copyright my name and/or work as a whole to where it will cover future stuff as well.
hey chris, you don't have to copyright beats but if they're full songs and it's original you can copyright it if you want.
@@CharlesCleyn if I make an original beat that isn’t made into a song yet, wouldn’t I want to copyright the beat? So ppl can’t just take n use my beats
Good info, thanks. One question, if I post a composition on TH-cam, that’s basically a copyright.. right?. The posting date is there, so I would think that would count for something. Or not?
i just made a new song called runaway alley and i al scared that it will be copyd so im taking help from here :)
Hope that it helps!
Can I copyright an album before I release it? I've heard that if you copyright something when it's unpublished, then you have to get another copyright for it when it is published, but to me this doesn't make any sense because if you release something and then copyright it after, somebody could steal it, which defeats the purpose of copyrighting it in the first place.
I've never heard of that either. You are copyrighting material, not the release date. So the material doesn't change when you release it.
Cubesandoldstuff wrote, “Can I copyright [register!] an album before I release it?
Yes, you can. I timely register my photographs as a group of *UNpublished* images in a single eCO (on-line) copyright registration application with the US Copyright Office (USCO), as that option better fits my workflow. I’ll wait at least two-days BEFORE I post (publish) any of those UNpublished photographs to the web or my social media sites (to sell, share, license, etc.) -- you can *NOT* register an unpublished work, say on June 2nd, and then “publish” it (sell or share it) on that very SAME day!
You can also register your works as being “published.” You could post them on-line for sale or licensing or sharing, but quickly register them as a “published” work with the USCO, and do it no later than within three-months of its first day of publication.
Cubesandoldstuff wrote, “I've heard that if you copyright [register!] something when it's unpublished, then you have to get another copyright for it when it is published”
No that’s incorrect. Once you register an UNpublished work with the USCO, you do NOT have to register it when it gets officially published (when you start selling, licensing, sharing, etc. to the public). If, however, you’ve changed the unpublished registered work by adding new creative material to it, you should register this “derivative” (new) work with the USCO.
In the US, when you timely register your copyrights (here before publication or within five-years of first-publication), you’re granted *“presumptive legal proof”* that that you have a valid registered copyright claim AND that all the information included in your (on-line) copyright registration application will also be deem to valid - a US federal judge needs to see your issued copyright “Certificate of Registration” BEFORE you can file suit in federal court. *You help PROVE your copyright creation and its authorship by quickly registering it with the USCO* !
Use the *“Group Registration of Unpublished Works”* to register a “group” of up to TEN *UNpublished* creative works of the same medium type (like ten music compositions and its corresponding sound recordings); the total fee is $85 (not $85 for each work) (do NOT use this application to register photographs): th-cam.com/video/eR14iSM4esQ/w-d-xo.html
To register ONE un-/published creative work (music) (“Single Application”) with one author who’s the same copyright claimant, that’s NOT a Work-For-Hire project, with no third-party creative media included, is $45 total fee: th-cam.com/video/MkBiPQNDVBc/w-d-xo.html . Otherwise, to register ONE work (“Standard Application”) with joint-authors and/or Creative Commons, Public Domain, and/or licensed media, or is part of a work-for-hire project, the fee is $65: th-cam.com/video/6gNkssUfYas/w-d-xo.html
*If you music is being infringed (stolen), do NOT ask TH-cam, Facebook, and other social media sites for legal advice - most all of it is wrong! Get a copyright attorney to help protect your music compositions and sound recordings* . Joshua Kauffman, copyright attorney expert, explains why you and other creatives should (timely) register your copyrights: th-cam.com/video/cBOKkrleY3Y/w-d-xo.html
*Copyright Registration Info & Tips*
-- Copyright Registration: th-cam.com/video/mM5fs2TCMKs/w-d-xo.html
-- Submitting Your Work to the USCO: th-cam.com/video/0w29otj5s6Y/w-d-xo.html
-- USCO Registration Portal: www.copyright.gov/registration/
-- USCO FAQ: www.copyright.gov/help/faq/index.html
-- US Ccpyright law basics: www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf
--Contact (email) the US Copyright Office for assistance (might take five-days or longer to receive a reply): www.copyright.gov/help/
You can also call the USCO, but your wait-time can be long: (202) 707-3000 or 1 (877) 476-0778.
.. Thank You for the insight Charles.
Thank you very much good sir. I will make sure to use this website very soon
Great info mate! Thanks for this :)
You're welcome, happy to help :)
Thanks for the information. What about the electronic music like playing 1 hour on youtube live? Should I register the live improvising music? Is it possible? Also I make short youtube intro music by myself, then I noticed people seemed to copy a little bit of it. How do I prevent it?
Hey guys, I wanted to give some feedback on your video. When I clicked on it, I was hoping to learn how to copyright a song. However, I felt disappointed when I realized that half of the video was spent on explaining what copyright is. I think most people who click on your video already know the basics of copyright. My suggestion is to stick to the title of the video because that's what people use to decide whether to watch or not. If the title says "how to copyright," it would be better to focus solely on that topic, as some viewers may not have time to watch unrelated content. Just thought I'd share this perspective with you.
Hi Charles, thanks for uploading so much cool stuff on your channel. It’s really dope.
Do you know if I can register House instrumentals I made in Logic ? I’m using only MIDI instruments by the way ?
Thanks dude
Thanks Wilhelm! Yes, I think that should be okay. As long as nothing is copyright then you’re good!
I’m subscribing to this channel because your voice makes explanations easy to understand 🙂
Thanks for the kind words!
As a Canadian do you use the Canadian or American copyright website or does it even matter which one to use? The reason I ask is because I am a Canadian also and it seems to me that the American website is way easier to use.
What if the song is unfinished but you uploaded a snippet to Instagram is that considered copyright ?
I believe anything you put even a small amount is copyright as soon as you put it out
Greatly appreciate this! You just got yourself a new subscriber my friend.
Hey, thank you for this video, very concise and helpful. I have a question. You say that they will mail you a certificate. Do you know if this actual certificate itself (the physical piece of paper) is overly important, or if the registration itself with the office is enough? I ask because I suppose that these letters can get lost during international shipping and in case that happens, it would be good to know if courts would acknowledge the registration itself that they, I suppose, could check with the office directly or something?
Hey, it’s a good question. I don’t know the answer but my assumption is that you’ll be backed up with the online registration might be enough. On the other hand, the real documents look very official so it might be really old school and you need the paper to back it up.
@@CharlesCleyn Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. You are right, perhaps it is old school. I'll try to sort this out somehow. Would be so cool to have protection by the mere registration alone. Thanks!
Exiled Monastic wrote, “You say that they will mail you a certificate. Do you know if this actual certificate itself (the physical piece of paper) is overly important, or if the registration itself with the office is enough?”
You’ll need either the original issued-copyright *“Certificate of Registration”* or a copy to have legal standing (the legal right) to file a copyright infringement suit in the US. Of critical importance will be your “effective date of registration” (the day your music was officially REGISTERED with the US Copyright Office (USCO) that’s listed on your Certificate.
Your registration is also posted to the USCO’s on-line Public Catalog (its URL is off-line/not working as I type this) that contains similar information, but is formatted much differently than your actual printed Certificate.
I place my original issued-Certificates in my bank’s safety deposit box, and I make back-up copies that are stored in my office files.
As of December 7, 2020, you can order extra Certificates of Registration for US$55 each.
Exiled Monastic wrote, “I ask because I suppose that these letters can get lost during international shipping and in case that happens, it would be good to know if courts would acknowledge the registration itself that they, I suppose, could check with the office directly or something?
The USCO routinely mails Certificates to international creatives.
If you feel your Certificate is being delayed, search the Public Catalog (enter your last name, first name). If it’s listed there, then your Certificate should be on the way to you. Contact the USCO if you have questions either here www.copyright.gov/help/ or here (202) 707-3000 or 1 (877) 476-0778 (toll free).
@@cnlicnli That was detailed and helpful, thank you. So, if I understand this in a correct way, it means that I need the physical document in order to have legal grounds, but at least it's possible to get a new certificate if the original gets lost. Again thank you for your time.
@@exiledmonastic4650 Cheers & Good Luck.
Thank you brother 😎 straight up goat.
Charley you are great my friend
I was wondering- if I made my song, then uploaded it onto TH-cam, would that be proof that I had made it o the date of that upload?
I hope so.
Valentino Kitchen wrote, “…if I made my song, then uploaded it onto TH-cam, would that be proof that I had made it o the date of that upload?”
Probably not. Your evidence of your song creation, or mailed CD to yourself in a SASE, or using your computer email to time-stamp your musical creation, or the date of your TH-cam upload will typically not hold up in federal court, as that evidence can easily be manipulated (faked). Those recording actions are *NOT* substitutes to *officially registering your songs with the US Copyright Office (USCO).*
To be fully protected by copyright law against copyright infringers, you MUST *“timely”* register your music copyrights with the USCO.
In the US, creatives help PROVE their copyright creation and copyright ownership claims to a federal judge by quickly registering their works with the USCO (registered as an unpublished work or registered within five-years of first-publication), as this statutorily grants them “prime facie evidence” (“presumptive legal proof”). See 17 USC § 410 (Registration of claim and issuance of certificate & 17 USC 506(e): False Representation [Criminal Offenses]).
The US copyright registration system is very much a vetting process to help authenticate your copyright validity. It’s not necessarily about having a RAW or original file that proves your copyright creation - a US federal judge MUST see your ISSUED copyright “Certificate of Registration” (or its refusal) to have “legal standing” (the right to sue copyright infringers). Your Certificate will include your “effective date of registration,” the official US government date stamp.
*If you register more quickly, you get additional legal benefits.* If your non-Fair Use infringed work was *“timely”* registered with the USCO, here either BEFORE the infringement began OR registered WITHIN three-months of its first-date of publication, you can pursue statutory damages ($750 to $30,000 and up to $150,000 for willful copyright infringement) and attorney fees against the infringer (the infringer may have to pay your attorney fees and legal cost post trial). See 17 USC § 412 (Registration as prerequisite to certain remedies for infringement).
If you miss either of these two very time-sensitive windows to register, you can ONLY pursue “actual damages,” typically the missed licensing fee (usually what you would have charged), and the disgorgement of profits the infringer made (if any!) from reproducing your music. Importantly, you’re responsible for your attorney fees and other legal costs! As a rule, any money damages received from an out-of-court settlement or via trial verdict will NOT cover your attorney fees, making it, too often, *uneconomical to pursue copyright infringers without having a timely registered copyright in-hand.*
Watch JUST the first 20-seconds of Joshua Kaufman’s copyright video tutorial to understand why you have to timely register your copyrights: th-cam.com/video/cBOKkrleY3Y/w-d-xo.html
Great video, my question is, If you already copyrighted your lyrics prior to making your sound, do you still add your lyrics or do you only have to upload your sound?
Thank youuuuuu so much for your help!! I tried doing it myself and didn’t quite understand.
The best bet is to copyright your music as a Sound Recording . That way you can get an album full of songs copyrighted on one application. If you write a lot of songs, you will spend a fortune copyrighting them one at a time . So doing the Sound Recording will copyright a bunch of songs at once. I've done as many as 10 songs on one application and then at the end of the process you can upload mp3's to complete the copyright. I don't know if there is a set limit on the number of songs per one application but I know I've done at least 10.
Isn't the "seal" broken when you have to prove your the copyright holder for one of those 10 songs ? I heard that copyright for the rest of the album will be useless or is that bs? The album is bundled into one submission right?
@@oggfish Well all the songs are uploaded and accepted by the copyright office so you have a notice from the office with the name of each of the songs you uploaded. I used to put Collection of Songs in the title and took credit for arranging them writing and singing them . I just copyrighted another bunch of songs a month ago. It was a little different then a couple years ago as I felt I had to use the first song on my list as the title. but I still was able to upload 8 other songs and I did get e-mail notice that all the songs were successfully uploaded .So anyway that's how I've been doing it for many years. And yes it is like an album in one submission. You are copyrighting both the songs and your recording of them. I don't think proving copyright for any one song takes away your rights as the writer and performer of the other songs . That's something I've never heard before.
Hey great video and thank you for the advice ! Does it matter where I register my copyright ? I live in Canada, so Im wondering if it would it be more advantagous to register my copyright in the USA over Canada ? Would it make a difference if I registered in both ? If no to both Im just going to register in Canada. I would apperciate any advice on this ! Thanks
Polo Brothers writes, “Does it matter where I register my copyright ? I live in Canada, so Im wondering if it would it be more advantagous to register my copyright in the USA over Canada ?
Ideally, you should register your music compositions and sound-recordings in *BOTH* Canada & the US, if you have the time and financial resources. If you have to choose one country to register, I’d go with the US, as it’s the place where your music will mostly likely be infringed/exploited. *It’s advantageous to contact a Canadian copyright (music) attorney to best guide you.*
Here are US copyright registration tips & fees:
The information provided here is current as of July 2, 2021 or check with the US Copyright Office (USCO): www.copyright.gov
Keep in mind that you’re *“registering”* your music with the USCO; you’re *NOT* “copyrighting” it! You already have an automatic *copyright* upon creating the musical composition and/or sound-recording whether in Canada or elsewhere.
Here’s the direct US Copyright Office (USCO) link for copyright registration fees (CLICK on the “registration” tab): copyright.gov/about/fees.html
The fee to register ONE un-/published work (like one book or one illustration or one photograph or one painting or one cartoon or one poem or one song) with one author who’s the same copyright claimant, that’s not a-work-for-hire project, that does not include any third-party creative media, is us$45. Use the *“Single Application”* (on-line eCO application): th-cam.com/video/MkBiPQNDVBc/w-d-xo.html
Otherwise, to register a single un-/published work with multiple authors, and/or as a derivative/collective work, and/or that includes CC, Public Domain, and/or licensed media, etc., the fee is us$65. Use the *“Standard Application”* (on-line eCO application): th-cam.com/video/6gNkssUfYas/w-d-xo.html
To register a group of up to TEN un-published works of the SAME category type, like visual arts with the one-line “Group Registration of Unpublished Works” (GRUW) application. You can also register up to TEN un-published song compositions and their corresponding un-published sound-recordings (up to 20 total) and the fee is us85 total. You can *NOT* include any published works in the GRUW copyright registration application: www.copyright.gov/gruw/ and th-cam.com/video/eR14iSM4esQ/w-d-xo.html
The Copyright Office has implemented a new group registration option for musical works that are PUBLISHED on the same album; the fee is us$65. Registrations of these works can be involved. See tutorials www.copyright.gov/gram/ and th-cam.com/video/PB9o3BKMWpc/w-d-xo.html
The Canadian copyright registration system is not as robust as the US. And it may be more expensive to register your musical works in Canada, as Canada may not allow “group-registrations” for a single filing fee (but I’m not sure). Follow these links:
www.canada.ca/en/services/business/ip/copyright.html
www.heerlaw.com/copyright-faq
FYI: I’m out of PQ -- Go Habs!
Thank you so much great work 👏🏼👏🏼
"Hello", I live in Canada, and I just wrote a song that I intend to use on a video for my TH-cam channel. I enjoyed your video and found it helpful , but have a question. After I apply for and receive my copyright. How do I ensure that someone doesn't challenge it, based on the fact my song title is the same as theirs? I see the title I used ("My Home Away From Home") on my song ... has been used many times here on videos already. What about song titles, or that line being in the verses? And what about music, because I have to get someone else to create the music for my song. Basically( simple country acoustic)Thank You!
Is it an option to copyright an album rather than copyright individual songs?
Yes there is
Well, I don‘t quite agree with your statement. The fact that I‘m writing a song for the first time or like you mentioned, being a beginner songwriter, doesn‘t mean that it might not have the success comparing to an experienced songwriter or musician, right?. I assume you get my point. But I do have a question? Instead of getting a certified copyright on my song and having to pay for it, wouldn‘t it be enough if I date the paper I wrote on? Worst case scenario would be that the court would have to verify the document or am I completely wrong?
How much does it cost for each song on copyright.gov? Will that also work as proof all over the world?
Ed Mirza wrote, “Will that also work [US registered music] as proof all over the world?”
Each country has its own copyright laws and regulations. An issued-copyright “Certificate of Registration” that the US Copyright Office will mail you only has legal authority in the US.
*However, with the US Copyright Office being an official entity of the US government, I have to believe that your issued-copyright Certificate of Registration could be used in countries outside the US as (legal) proof of your copyright creation and copyright ownership claims. Your issued Certificate could be especially helpful if your country does not have a formal copyright registration system.*
*I encourage all international creatives to timely register their works with the US Copyright Office for this and other benefits.*
Ed Mirza wrote, “How much does it cost for each song on copyright.gov?”
US copyright registration fees are current as I write this on December 7, 2020:
The fee to register ONE un-/published work (like one song or one book or one article or one photograph or one painting or one cartoon or one poem) with one author who’s the same copyright claimant, that’s not a-work-for-hire project, and that does not include any third-party creative media, is US$45. Use the “Single Application” (on-line eCO application): th-cam.com/video/MkBiPQNDVBc/w-d-xo.html
Otherwise, to register a single work (one song or one sound recording) with multiple authors and/or CC, Public Domain, and/or licensed media, etc., the fee is US$65. Use the “Standard Application” (on-line eCO application): th-cam.com/video/6gNkssUfYas/w-d-xo.html
To register a group of up to TEN UN-published music works (you can register up to TEN UN-published sound recordings together with their UN-published musical work - they MUST ALL be UN-published!), the fee is US$85 total: th-cam.com/video/eR14iSM4esQ/w-d-xo.html
Here are a few official USCO (music) registration links:
www.copyright.gov/registration/performing-arts/
www.copyright.gov/circs/circ24.pdf
www.copyright.gov/gruw/gruw-frequently-asked-questions.pdf
www.copyright.gov/gruw/gruw-eligibility-requirements.pdf
Hello. I just created my 1st TH-cam channel and I want to use an opening song to my videos that I wrote. I want to make sure no one else uses it. Thank you for this video, extremely helpful information.
Thanks , quick and easy!
You’re very welcome.
Great video. Thank you for sharing. QQ: What if I have a demo version of a song that i'm not ready to Master yet...if I get a copyright in the demo form does that mean when the song is fully mastered (with no changes to the structure of the song) will I have to get a second copyright once the song has been Mixed/Mastered), thanks again.
I think you’d need 2 copyrights yes because you can think of them as completely different recordings. For my demos I never get them copyrighted if that gives you some piece of mine
If I record the guitar tunes on video and say say look at the date of recording wouldnt that be enough of proving who did the music first
Usefull buddy for ur info
Glad it helped, thanks for watching
How much?
Hey charles ! I am a Beat Producer and a Rapper used my beat for free, thats fine ! but the problem is that his Channel is Monetized. he is getting profit from my Work. what can i do ?????
I want to post on spotify but I'm scared if someone steals it
Sad you have to watch out for things like that
Annoying mostly
Hi, Charles. I have a serious question.
I want to produce music as a hobby and I don't want to earn anything off of it, though I don't want anyone else to profit from my work.
I also don't feel like copyrighting future tracks because it isn't free, and I am fine with others using my music in monetized videos.
What should I do?
Same. I'd like to see my songs being used in other people's videos BUT some jerk can steal the song and copyright it themselves. Happens all the time if you use samples aka someone releases a short sample that's meant to be used free for profit in other artists's work, then someone who used that sample registers the song, then everyone who used the same sample gets copystriked even though the songs are different. I still can't find anyone who can answer this
I'm just tired of getting copyright violations on my videos. So I'm going to start making my own music
Hi! Great video. Does this type of copyright protect your music forever on all platforms or is there an expiration date?
I think this is a forever copyright or at least a very long long time
Thanks alot buddy soooo helpful 🙏
Okay so the entire point of copyrighting something is to provide tangible documentation in regards to when and by who something was created that will hold up in court. Would registering a song through a performance rights organization like BMI or ASCAP not provide reliable evidence for the date and creator of an intellectual property? It doesn’t look like it according to the research I’ve done, but I feel like the idea makes sense.
I agree and I think k the idea makes sense too. I think if you had a reasonable judge in court, then they would recognise this as copyright.
Charles Cleyn wrote, “I think if you had a reasonable judge in court, then they would recognise this as copyright.”
Copyright is a federal issue, not state. If your matter pertains to a (copyright) CONTRACT, a state court may have jurisdiction. However, if your copyright issue is before a federal judge, the judge MUST see your issued-copyright *“Certificate of Registration”* to accept your copyright creation and ownership claims.
You help PROVE your copyrights by quickly registering your creative works with the US Copyright Office.
Dwyn Lo wrote, “Would registering a song through a performance rights organization like BMI or ASCAP not provide reliable evidence for the date and creator of an intellectual property?”
If you want to obtain the best LEGAL *evidence,* “timely” (quickly) “register” your materials with the US Copyright Office (USCO)!
In the US, songwriters (and all other creatives) help *PROVE* their music compositions and/or sound-recording creation and copyright ownership claims to a federal judge by quickly registering their works (NOT *“copyrighting”* - you already have an *automatic* copyright upon creating/affixing the work to a recording, analog or digital) with the USCO, as that grants them *“prime facie evidence” (“presumptive legal proof”).* See 17 USC § 410 (Registration of claim and issuance of certificate) & 17 USC 506(e) (False Representation [Criminal Offenses]).
The US copyright registration system is very much a vetting process that helps authenticate your copyright validity. In the US, it’s not the original digital or RAW file that necessarily proves your copyright ownership/creation claims, but rather your issued-copyright Certificate of Registration - that’s US federal law!
Creatives and others who *knowingly* include false material information in their copyright registration application are committing a federal offense.
Your Certificate will include the date the USCO *”registered”* (not copyrighted) your compositions, and that’s your *presumptive legal proof* of your music creation.
It’s unwise to submit your music to one of the PROs without FIRST getting it IMMEDIATELY registered with the USCO.
can you take someone’s beat or something and copyrights it so they don’t ask for it
i’m not a bad person but this guy has a beat but he stopped his beat making and he’s not replying or seeing any of my messages to buy his beat he hasn’t been making beats over a year almost 2 years
That u god for bro👆🏿😤I needed this
Couldn't i just use how i upload my music in TH-cam with a date in it as a proof that I made the song first?
Thank you so much for making this video. If you don't mind me asking, do you have a separate artist channel that you use for your releases? Thank you.
thanks a lot man, here's me on spotify: open.spotify.com/artist/3tvwYw8w04X8iwpZ2oOWSO?si=1AnjnL9fRvuiKqO4VUB01g
So it's means that if somebody use my song in his youtube video and afterwards he got my claim and I got all his revenue generated by my song.
But how do I get that money in my hands
I mean how I get paid by that copyright
Plz help me 🙏😭
Hey, so if somebody uses your song in their youtube video and you want to get the revenue from that video then you'll need to be signed up for 'youtube monetization' with your music distributor. You can do this on DisrtoKid, for example, once you're signed for that that, the music distributor will handle it for you. However, there are other services you can use too, most of the time they will take 10-20% of the revenue for the service.
@@CharlesCleyn thank you so much for this information, appreciate it 😇
This guy goes round the houses before getting to the point!!!
laying the ground work
Do I have to have the legal copyright in order to collect any royalties, or is that covered in publishing?
Yes you would have to have the copyright to collect royalties, essentially making money off the track. You are right in saying that it is publishing so when you release you music, you will have to accept terms that says you own the rights to the music you’re releasing.
So, I need to register it with the library of Congress? If so, do I send them a recording? If so, broadcast quality? Sheet music? Lyric sheet? I appreciate you taking the time with what must seem like very elementary questions
@@darrellhall4175 No problem, happy to help, I'd first suggest watching the video again as I cover these issues but happy to re-iterate here. Basically, you don't need a copyright but you will if you want to 100% officially prove something in court that it is your. If so, you'll need to go to your country copyright office, in the US, it's copyright.gov and copyright your work. It will depend on what info you need to provide to prove its your based on what you're submitting. For examples, songs require an upload of the songs and lyrics I believe.
Bro very well explained thanks so much
Thanks Charles great information 👍
Thanks for the tips!
No problem Stephen :)
I heard that uploading your song onto youtube even if its set as unlisted, it gives you the proof that its your work. Is that right?
Gives you some range of proof but not enough to hold it up in court if it gets to something serious
Range Of Circle wrote, “I heard that uploading your song onto youtube even if its set as unlisted, it gives you the proof that its your work. Is that right?”
*NO, that’s a myth!* You help *PROVE* your music creation and its corresponding copyright ownership claim by *quickly(!)* registering the work with the US Copyright Office. Your proof is in your issued-copyright *Certificate of Registration” that you receive in the mail from the US Copyright Office -- That’s federal copyright law.
Using the poor man’s copyright, blockchain, or third-party services that “time-stamp” your creative works are *NOT substitutes to timely registering your creative works with the US Copyright Office.*
sadly in my country they asking me to get it played on the radio or they cant help me. its very sad here in Trinidad and Tobago. I would register it in a different country yes
Thank you a lot brother!
Thanks for the video, very informative! So when you put metadata in your songs its not enough to prove that you created them?
Thanks, nice and simple. 💪💙
Now sir, i should call you the google man 👍🏼
Keep up the good work
Thanks! What a compliment!
When you register on this website, are you required to upload a transcription of the song, or is it enough to just upload the audio?
Thank you for the video !
Hey man! I write songs and would like to offer them to an artist, can I register just the lyrics to protect myself when I show the artist? If they decide to buy the song, do I hand over the copyright paper or am I just selling the rights to USE it?
If you upload to TH-cam or have a time stamp proving I’m sure you’re fine without registering it
Thank you! Very helpful
THANK YOU FAM WITH THIS INFORMATIONAL VIDEO REALLY HELPED INDEPENDANT FLOW
HOw about if you a Canadian citizen?
Thanks for the knowledge
You’re very welcome
Good stuff Charles
Thanks Charles!