@@Lil-h2x OK why are you here replies if don't iike her it funny to me you wanted your time to say that when got also better than to man if she the wrong what about this generation more of everyone say can't sing. I can keep going if want to but I think I got my point cross it fine for you have your opinion but you not make facts also you need to be respectful about it that all going said but that
watching the apt music video was genuinely emotional as a blink for nearly 4 years now. i was like "we finally get to hear from the singer-songwriter rosé that we all knew was waiting to shine!"
@Lil-h2x yeah honey so does Taylor Swift one artist cannot create and produce a song alone even if the words are theirs. There is a lot involved. As a Lisa stan you need to stop talking pronto
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
I remember the last video you did of Rose, you said you wanted to hear something different from her, and I thought to myself, me too.. And I’m so glad, that even though it’s not drastic, she’s working on herself and it shows!
I can still tell she is the least popular BP member.. like aside from Apt, she is getting no attention... meanwhile everything Lisa releases gets attention
@mariasol1545 Sorry sweetheart this isnt Thailand number one and number 2 we do not care about a Thai getting her boyfriend to pay. Also Rosé is not getting any attention? Um you are the one bringing up Lisa on her videos?
I think for someone like Rosé who continuously strives to get better, she is evolving in her vocal capacity, and letting go of what was taught during her YG days. I think she has a distinct vocal style that she wants to stick to and that’s perfect. But genre wise, I would like to see more versatility. I think also, her live vocal stability and performance heavily depends on her head space and state of mind. I can fully tell when she’s nervous and when she’s confident or neutral, and it really shows in how her vocals come out. I’m actually quite impressed with all her live performances these days even if some got criticism. That’s alright, but you can totally see her trying to improve even if it’s slow and steady. The consistency of dedication is something I’ve truly seen in her that I haven’t seen in others. It’s quite refreshing to hear and see, and she actually communicates this to us herself and documents it all. How she wish she had more time in the past to learn and develop the skills she wanted to excel in especially in the production realm when it comes to composing, writing, producing, and more. She’s trying to do things raw and authentic and that’s already a lot more than a lot of what Kpop is doing and even western artists. She’s not being made and curated. She already has a sense of self and is improving on that and ways to express what she already has in mind. She wants to make sure that the lyrics are truly hers and are unique to her mind, and as well as the music turnout. I usually never say this, because I love constructive criticism…but for someone like her I’d just parade her growth especially when she’s coming into her own skin as a soloist. She’s spent her entire career being given stuff and being told things and it’s suppressed who she truly was. I know she’s someone who doesn’t want something already prepared and written for her, she wants to be the creator herself. That’s a true artist, a true musician indeed. Doesn’t have to be perfect, but has to show artistry. There’s many people who want something made for them in order to excel, that’s the short way. Rosie took a lot of time and work before its release, as well as heartbreak and experiences. I’ve never gone through any of that but somehow I feel goosebumps and experience shivers when I hear her sing. Also have we noticed how much she’s challenged herself in terms of growth? She hasn’t been using back tracks and fully relied on her vocals during performances. I like that she’s trying to stay true to her growth by giving herself these challenges. That “no, I will challenge myself and prove to myself that I CAN perform live better each time I get on the stage” I can see in her personality that a lot of her movements and improvements are not done to show her growth to the public as much as it is for her own fulfillment. The satisfaction of her fans and the audience is definitely a part of the validation, but I feel that it’s been a journey to show herself that she can do it. It’s such a mature way of navigating your dreams. While supporting your supporters is very important, focusing on yourself in a healthy manner is even more important. We get to see her journey play out in real time. It feels like a real time documentary I’m watching after each one of her eras and events. She’s starting to share more now thats she’s not restricted, she’s starting to connect more with the world. I always saw that even in the group she tried connecting and having engagement with blinks and fans as much as she could, but now that the barriers have dissolved she’s taking advantage of that to tell us her story.
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
She does show her vocal range and signature vocal color, and she’s sounding less cursive. Voice lessons for continuous improvement is good - but more than that, she needs to rest her voice. She’s doing a lot and not giving her voice a rest and it’s putting a strain on important live performances. I still need to hear her sing “stay a little longer” and “not the same” live! And Drinks or Coffee needs to be a single! Her embellishments in the album are so delicious.
Agree completely. The amount of interviews and promotions she's been doing is kind of insane, I respect how hard she's working but that would wear anyone down after a while. It's like an athlete playing every single day, of course they won't be performing as well on the 5th or 6th game. And it's obvious because some of her live performances are amazing, you can see the growth of just how good she is now. But other ones she's clearly fatigued and her throat sounds sore, some people said she's sick idk if it's true but either way you can tell it's not her full potential. Which sucks because some people will only see those ones and judge her for it
It's just being one (single) album, I feel rosé's solo career gonna have a long run. She's gonna explore more genres/styles, she will do tours, OST, Korean songs, maybe acting too... . I can't wait for her to release more and more and more songs.
She’s definitely not plateauing or getting worse but I definitely don’t think she’s progressing as fast as blinks think she is, she’s def better within her belting/lows than her last active year but it isn’t a HUGE improvement. I think while Rosie ofc has the possibility to greatly improved, she might just continue to perfect where she’s at currently without fully taking the jump from stylistic vocalist to technical vocalist, which wouldn’t be terrible for her since she already has a decent technical understanding of her voice.
We don't want her to change into something she doesn't want too. She is a great vocalist. Her voice is full of emotions. People with musical ears appreciate her. All of her songs scream emotions. And we love it. Her style is what makes her unique and seperate from boring voices.
Don’t agree with that. Her voice sounds fuller but not like pre debut. Pre debut she sounded very grounded and less powerful. With that pre debut technique of hers, she wouldn’t have been able to hit higher belted notes
@@kledi3817 Not saying downgrade, I'm saying sound, like her tone, obi that she is way more skilled than back then, compared to the kpop-esque sound she uses for the bp songs
Beyond agreeing that Rosé's technique has improved significantly because she decided to move away from the vocal training style YG taught her, she, of course, still needs to keep training her vocal cords like any other artist who considers themselves a vocalist. Even the best singers with the greatest vocal ranges never stop studying. I hope she has found or can find a vocal coach to guide her and help her discover and improve her own voice, as that will only make her an even greater artist than she already is. The soul-stirring interpretation she delivers is undoubtedly something that makes her unique and has been with her for a long time. 💗
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
I think she does, one thing I've l learned about her she's never satisfied, she's hard on herself and always wants to improve, and you can see the slow but steady improvement in her vocals since debut in 2016. Especially in her new solo era she seems to have gotten a different style of vocal coaching from the one she had with YG, less stylized, more natural
Rosé herself did say she was going through a breakup while on tour during an interview. 13:33 that could be a reason behind her lack of energy/vocal differences
when I first listened to the songs and read the lyrics, I was kind of like okay? why are we saying the same thing over and over. But after listening to your and Choujimi’s videos about how this album IS big especially in the kpop context, I have a better appreciation for it. thank you for another amazing video ❤
The same thing over and over? How. Besides just being a mostly heartbreak themed album, the writing itself is quite varied and explores it from different angles
@ yea I was hoping for a bit more variety in the topics covered since it was a self-titled album, I thought we’d learn more about Rosie instead of just about the breakup, but this is not meant to be any hate, I really love a lot of the songs on the album
@@terrell835 yeah I can understand that, the focus wasn't just her as a person. but it was still her personal experiences, thoughts and emotions, which is much different from her songs in blackpink
@@terrell835 I mean girl if you listened to her documentaries, the theme of her album Rosie is literally about the stages of her breakup, how she went trough it and healed. I as well would’ve liked seeing more variety and learn more about her but it’s just the concept of the album ! And if she named it Rosie, it’s probably because it’s her first album as a solo artist. It has healed her to make this album and to express all of the raw feelings she went trough, this is truly a way for her to find herself, you know what I mean ? It’s beautiful in my opinion. But I’m sure she will obviously sing on a bunch of other different topics 🫶
Vampire Hollie is my favorite song. It was foolish that she didn't include it on Spotify and it's only a bonus track but Vampire Hollie is the most authentically HÉR so please listen to it.
I'm so glad you noticed she seemed to just be doing the motions in born pink too! She was still a good performer, Honestly of everyone she was visibly the least enthusiastic. I saw them perform and while they were excellent, she was how id describe a little disinterested.
I thought her album slotted in nicely with the Olivia Rodrigos and Taylor Swifts. Not for me, but solid. Her writing needs to get imo a bit better at being specific, something Taylor Swift has mastered: introducing details that sound specific without detracting from the generic relatable feels. Vocally, I do really enjoy her: she is a very emotional singer and that works well for her style. Promo-wise, she is a delight: relaxed, comes off as very earnest, nice sense of humor, very cute, very charming. If anything, I would say she seems overall a bit basic, not in a bad way! I just prefer my artists with bigger personalities, but that is a matter of personal taste. Rosé is delightful and I am enjoying watching her grow as an artist, she seems truly nice and I am glad she is finally getting the chance to spread her wings. She has earned it.
I agree with you about pretty much everything. One thing to note, if you prefer artists with bigger personalities she's probably not that. She's from the kpop system and by nature they're careful about saying risky things or being too weird, although actually she seems the most comfortable being herself out of most idols I've seen. She's always been super nice and sweet though, on and off camera according to people who have worked with her or know her, always seems grateful to the fans. She does a lot for animal welfare and other charity stuff, so I'm happy to see her doing well
@@truenoae8689 not all idols I follow, but you have G. Dragon, JYP, Jonghyun and Key, Soyeon, I would even say Karina has a pretty defined and big personality for all that she is stuck within the perfect doll Aespa image. Hyuna for better or worse. In a softer manner, T.O.P., and even Chen in how he stood his ground both to SM and to the fans through the years, and Hwasa for how she constantly pushes against pressure to her basically being sexy by not bowing down. Also on this calmer, low-key side, I would include IU and BTS Jin. If you want genuinely quirky and weird, you always have Taemin though 🤣
Yesssss i think this really shows how limiting the kpop idol factory can be, especially bc its difficult to show an individuals true potential when balancing with the other members of the group. Im also wondering if it makes any difference that she is writing the music in english too. Ugh im just so excited for her
Rose is the only member of Blackpink who has tried to better herself in her craft while in YG, from a BOM PARK 2.0 to becoming herself. Now without having to deliver the "YG style", she seems more comfortable singing and we can see some of the Bom Style in some of her singing but now she uses it to her advantage, I think in YG she has reached the maximum of improvement and now being solo is like she has Started from scratch, showing her true tone and implementing her own style of singing... Rosie was a great starting point. Now I want to know where she will go next and what sounds she will explore next. the best part of the album is when she is almost flirting with indie electro pop and I wish she would go fully in that direction.
@mary4963 from singing "get on my Lamborghini vroom vroom" to a full album made by her.. it's growth. And everyone writes about what they Experience and if that's her story. B.etter to turn into art than be a sucker on the internet, or get depressed.
@twoohoot a full album made with a conference room of mega hit making songwriters and producers. Sorry but the difference between Rose in yg and Rose now is she has a different team of song writers and producers and Atlantic's payola to help her out.
Since her solo debut, there’s been a remarkable and positive transformation, showing significant growth. She clearly needed new mentors, and it’s great to see her improving in her vocal abilities. Next, would be confidence.
The thing with Rosé is that sheknows her strengths and weaknesses. She knows her range. She knows her limits. That's why she knows how to play with it.
You can tell she takes her craft very seriously. In the documentary years ago blackpinks producer said she has a lot of ideas for songs but she's shy about sharing them, and she said she has a lot of respect for music and doesn't want to share music unless she feels it's up to a certain standard. She's very careful and knows exactly what she wants to do with her music. I'm so proud of her she's reached the point she's confident sharing her music with us
Leaving YG for their solo careers was definitely the best decision for the four members (and honestly, if I were them, I wouldn’t even renew the group’s contract). This is especially true for Rosé. As for their solo work, while the only member I truly stan is Jennie, I was still curious to see what each of them would bring now that they have more freedom. As expected, Jisoo is focusing on acting, but I think she’ll likely release solo music from time to time. However, I wasn’t fond of her solo under YG; it felt incomplete. I’m not sure what to expect from her musically moving forward. As for Lisa, I think she’s still didn't found her artistic identity. And I’m sorry, but overall, what she’s released so far feels mediocre to me. Jennie, my dear Jennie… I had higher expectations for her. When Mantra came out, I could feel the freedom in the choreography, like she’s no longer under YG’s control. But the song itself, though better than Lisa’s music, still feels very YG-influenced to me. I’m still waiting for her full album to get a clearer picture. Rosé, I haven’t listened to her full album yet, but you’ve definitely made me want to check it out. So far, I’ve only heard Number One Girl and APT. Honestly, I had no expectations because her solo under YG was my least favorite, but right now, her solo work is definitely my favorite. I love her way of singing now-it confirms my belief that the way she sang during those eight years at YG was more their choice than hers. By the way, do you plan on doing a Q&A video or a live stream Q&A? 🤣😉 (Yes, that was in my dream 🤣) Also, how about a vocal ranking for the Big 3 girl groups (Twice, BP, RV, Itzy, Aespa, Nmixx, and BM)? Edit : I listened to Rosé's album and I completely get your description of it and her musicality and I totally agree! The only other album in 2024 that gave me such a strong emotional impact and enjoyment on the first listen is the Armageddon album, and I absolutely LOVE that album ! My favorite song is : Stay a little longer 😍
@@austinvhmi think the same, I'm actually scared of YG, i don't want her to sing those songs without meanings, I don't wanna hear more ratatatas or shut downs from Rosé, shes so much better than that. But her in Blackpink is just not her.
Its good loke she is balancing out her style with technique she had big improvement since her debut she sounds more open and Kinda heady Which is okay Her biggest strength is that she can ride u in a rollercoaster of emotions with her vocals If she improves and prioritise technique she may become a Powerhouse vocalist She is already talentes even with little training when she debut she had good improvement. Her upper register and agility and upoer belts hold good potential.
2:17 - Yeah I think that the same thing should be apply to Jisoo. To me it's very clear that she is always singing in a tone not comfortable to her, or one tone that wouldn't be the best to her voice. But once she makes part of a group and they sing together the same song, the tone of the song that they sing have to be in a tone that all they can sing. And she end up being the sacrificed one...
Also, having Bruno Mars and Atlantic as her mentors and guide, Rosé will surely improve. She was always described by her team as the most hard working and always seek for greatness not satisfying herself with mediocrity. So for sure, she will improve and develop more her artistry, musicality and techniques.
If you are a rosé bias since 2016 you will know that she's always been expressive, extrovert, extra, social butterfly, eloquent and smart. It's that she's been overshadowed with her members and has the least screen time
I've been waiting for her to start using her lower register ever since I first heard her voice in that gdragon song. Honestly, it's so much better than her nasal whiny voice she uses in bp songs
The gist I get from your videos is what has caught my attention a lot of times: There is a very specific preference for singing sytle (and even tone of voice) in South Korea, especially in Kpop. And I'm not just saying that just as "I have noticed" but it's been pointed out to me by friends from Korea too, particularly friends who also took vocal lessons (I lived there a while so I know some people). Just like the tight beauty standards, there's a very inflexible preference for singing and those who break out of that comparatively narrow standard are very few and a lot of them take long to receive recognition in South Korea (sometimes they receive recognition abroad before finally getting it in SK). Now, I don't listen to that many girl groups, but I think similarly to boy groups the singing style and singing voices don't stray too far from one another for most idols. And I don't mean that they don't have recognizable voices, but there's a reason why I have no trouble remembering the sound of G-Dragon's or Felix' (Stray Kids) or Hwasa's (Mamamoo) singing while I need to really think for other idols how I would describe the differences in their sounds - if I can even remember what they specifically sound like. For me the best example is that Jungkook is certainly a singer which a lot of people will tell you has great vocal stability, great technique and a good range, to me, as someone who is not good at noticing such details as I have no deeper knowledge (nor skill) when it comes to singing, his voice sounds like most kpop singers. I sure can recognize it when I hear it but to me it was somewhat never his voice which defined BTS' sounds or made it unique. Ofc this is just my personal opinion and I do know that I have my own preference for singing voices which might strongly impact how I perceive things here (I prefer the likes of Kim Feel, though not kpop, and Woosung from The Rose). It's just that others have agreed with me a lot, even people who know more about singing than I do, so I feel like there is a certain truth to it.
I've been waiting for your opinion regarding Rose's live performance, apparently you're recapping everything into this video including ur thougts on "Rosie". I agree wholeheartedly with your opinion. I'm a number one (fan of Rosie) but I'm rational and realistic enough in reading and also giving constructive criticism on her musics. Overall, I'm so proud of her vocal improvement. However, I'm not gonna lie her BBC Live Lounge, especially when she covered "Last Christmas" had some flaws (I even think when she sang it live with BlackPink it was a better performance), I hope it only happened because she was unwell at the moment. I also notice in some of her interview she mention getting vocal coach from Bruno which I'm happy to hear that she keep training her vocal and I personally feel the improvement already. I believe learning, in every aspect of life, is a never ending process. Therefore, I wish Rosie will always keep learning to a better singer, musician, songwriter because as a fan, I enjoy her growth!! Good luck for your future Rosieeee and I hope you Rosie will see this video too (because this is a great constructive criticism)
And also I feel like she's slowly learning in building confidence abt having her performing on her own (please see her Elvis Duran interview when being asked abt concert stuff). Therefore, I sincerely hope she's not in a hurry for her concert and need to be well-prepared for everything bcs I'm sure it's quite challenging from having to perform as a group (where each of them have their own part) to sing on ur own where you sing full song by yourself!
P.s. to some Rosie fans who's angry with this video. Tbh, I don't get why you are angry at all, to be disagree with his opinion is okay and can be said in a polite manner, but being angry?! Please broaden your mind and be mature to understand that criticism (especially when it's constructive) is not equal to hate. Stop treating any artist you like that they have to be 100% perfect in everyone's eyes
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
Her vocal tier's improved too, it's C-/C Now people will correct me that it's D+ or even D. Girl has improved guyz, let's just accept it. And she is improving everyday, giving her best...
She has definately improved vocally overall. Lower register : Doesnt sounds much airy as she used to or doesnt stuggles much with the low notes. Support gain more better consistency. Mix : Sounds more open,cleaner,engaged,phrasings sounds good,more better support and projection,sounds even fuller and less shallow
I'm a proud blink and i love rose but i agree that Rose need better vocal coach and lots of vocal training, her debut album Rosie is amazing and touch many of us, we can hear her emotions blending with her songs but again to reach higher level to become great singer. her soul, emotions and good writings are not enough. She better come up with better vocal technique if she wants to stay at the top as a singer and artist. She has many potentials, She need to realized that she is no longer K-Pop Artist and she need to step up her game
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
In my view, YG used a similar approach to the "Britney Spears technique," altering her voice to sound more childlike / babyish instead of allowing her to explore her natural vocal tone. Additionally, they didn’t provide her with enough training to fully develop her potential, as her voice didn’t align with YG’s signature sound. I hope she has recognized this and will continue to grow and refine her voice, which is her true instrument. ❤ So proud of her and her new a album
Yeah i agree, i really wish she would take singing more serious and get vocals lessons from GOOD vocal teachers. Like get them from the same people who trained Ariana, Beyonce etc. She can do so much more and has all the money to improve but doesn't and it pisses me off.
Well that your option but you don't know what is going behind thing is just your options and if get mad at her a person how is one of best singer in K-pop can't sing what about this generation people more said don't sing live I can keep going if want to next when you say use barin it fine to have a option but you need to have respect it need be fact not trying make your option fact at the end of the day
@ You're right i don't know whats going on in her personal life and it's none of my business but what i said was not wrong. She has a lot of potential to be better, that's a fact. She has the money to get better and that is another fact. I never said she can't sing, i did say that she doesn't take it as serious as she should and that's simply the truth cause this is the only improvement she's had in the past 8 years of her career. And yes i am aware that Yg restricted her a lot but after their contract renewal in 2022 she had all the power to start getting decent vocal lessons. And i know she was on tour and recording her album which made her busy but also look at huge stars like Ariana who also toured and filmed for Wicked and still managed to get vocal lessons and improve even more. She is a good singer but not a good vocalist and me giving criticism cause i like her and want her to improve doesn't mean i'm hating. I'm happy she was able to improve at least a little, you can tell that Bruno taught her a few good tricks. I hope she keeps on going and gets actual lessons cause a career in the West is sadly not going to fly if she keeps singing at a mediocre level. The general public is ruthless and will hate on the slightest flaw.
Ok that fine for to have that options that time did a way better context and respectful but I still don't agree with you all due respect or video all guys talk voice skills it fine but at the end don't mean. The only thing that matters is can connect the crowd makes feel something that the important thing if can't do that all due how much skill you got if they don't care about you or the song also how they make you feel you are done I see of great singing hit note out this world but they can't do that. That why I can't agree with this video they more about music then skill it about how makes the viewer in they heart that was it part that was music is and I understand what in my options and I guess what you said but they more thing look then rages they have been lot great sing didn't well sing the highest note but they makes people it well they can't understand like Rosé I can keep going but this all day but I think you got my point and that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground
According to me, kpop trains people to be perfect robots but not artists who experiment, take risks and show their true selves. Not that am saying that Rose is a bad singer, but if she had debuted in the western music industry, she would have gotten a chance to perfect her vocals as she has the potential.
Off topic, but in regard to the songs. I love the 3 singles though APT aged like milk, but I find I don’t find myself looking at any of her material. One thing I like about Kpop over pop is that it’s visual as much as auditory. Kpop will even make dances for slow songs. I’ve listened to the music but have no interest in checking out videos, pictures or performances.
I was so pleasantly surprised when heard her singing in a heartier chest voice/mix. Her lower register that was once not as utilised is now an asset that she plays with regularly!
I feel like rosie's change in her placement allowed her to sound a lot less forced and fake, and atleast for me, she's able to emote with her voice even better than before.I REALLY felt that that with number one girl especially Edit: Also, I HAVE noticed the embellishments a lot in kpop, the best example I can come up with apart from goeun and swan of purple kiss is that infamous good day high note from iu
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
@@prdm9290 lol. I listen to it most of the time since her album is in my playlist. Are people these days this sensitive with the word moaning? It's just a style of singing. Nothing wrong with it. 💀
I was never the biggest Blackpink fan but I really love love rosie for what it is. The album is so good coming from a kpop artist who wasn´t allowed to write her own songs. You can see the growth I always wanted from Blackpink but didn´t get.
Honestly, when I heard the chorus of APT, I thought it was repetitive but once I listened to the whole song, I found it super enjoyable and catchy. But the amount of people I've seen saying they can't stand it or straight up calling it the worst and most annoying song ever is insane
I agree that she has improved her vocal technique and range. And that she can still improve. But let's face it - she is now one of the biggest global pop stars and certainly the biggest/most popular K-pop star. This is objectively true - all the charts prove it. Haters will still hate and point out that other singers are better. 🤣
i would say she always has this side to her.. check out her snd Jisoo's cover of Bieber's Love Yourself 7 years ago.. both of them sang it unlike their kpop side.. which in many ways is character singing
Definitely one of my favorites of your videos! Still want to pimp the idea of some sort of collab with you and Wings of Pegasus. You both attack the same issue from wildly different angles. Putting you together would be greater than the sum of parts I think
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
Rose is fine as is vocally. If she wants to be technically better, that’s fine, but not necessary. Her vocals aren’t damaging her voice. I remember years ago before you got into Kpop, people online were saying how she and Jungkook were gonna ruin their voices, but we know how that was false.
A good artist (specially up the average ones) keep always improving themselves, which include vocal lessons constantly to keep what they have and acquire more techniques and try avoid vocal vices. I think Rosé sing very well, but she can be better and avoid some vices that she developed. The same thing to Jennie. She has some very clear vocal vices which is perfect to more aggressive songs like a trap, rap or rock but...to smooth songs that she sometimes like to sing, just doesn't match and clearly because she doesn't get to avoid to use them because.... They're VICES! Dãr! lolol. And not just her personal style. So these girls can improve a lot yet . . . If they want it . . . Including LISA. She already improve a lot. But the next challenge to her it is that she need start sing in live presentations like, on TV, on Radio, Podcasts and etc. But I think she is the one with the least vocal vices, since she has the most diverse style of singing among the Blackpinks...
When will people understand this is how people sound while jumping and danceing without backtrack or lipsync we arent used to it as yg made bp lipsync all the time thats it not just rosie but all idols i see people criticising groups like illit nwjns kiof etc for sounding bad while doing jumpy choreos and dancing but thats literally how u sound while dancing
Me encanta que Rose cante tan impresionante en vivo hasta mejor que en las grabaciones tiene un estilo único y ella es fiel a su estilo.....pero demuestra a su vez que también puede incursionar en otros ritmos.. el hecho de Rose pueda tocar emociones poder hacerte llorar sin darte cuenta te das cuenta de el calibre de artista de la que estamos hablando!!!!! Gente que no está conforme siempre va a ver si lo hace bien o si lo hace mal.....no podes conformar a todos.....si creo realmente que tiene un enorme potencial!!!
I just assumed she was singing naturally again. YG pulled a Park Bom again, they love forcing styles on singers that damage their voices. I liked the earliest Rose stuff better than main BP stuff. Thank you for the video!
Yes she is discovering herself without you. She has become more an independent vocalist. And opinions are like lips. Most people have too. And again, those who cannot sing and perform at that level criticize.
Nah I don't think she need that much. Just stick with her stylish vocal is fine no need for drastic change. But smoothing a little maybe for higher note so it doesn't feel strained. Overall she's good idol singer. I like her black hair era XD
Okay so Ive somehow got into a heated debage ( more so, she's mad at me, lol 😂) with a person for saying Nmixx are, technique wise, better vocalists than dreamcatcher. They sad Siyeon is closer to Solar and Wheein as vocalist than Lily and Haewon. Additionally, they said Siyeon sings in a different singing style and has a wider range, so she has to be the better vocalist.
I really don't like how you dissect artists with every single note that comes out of their mouth as if they're supposed to be perfect like that, as if they're not humans who cannot go slightly off for a second
In all of her apt, number one girl performances she is sick. Confirmed by her staff members. But still she sounds this good. Haters will hate.. Players will play... Stay a little longer, call it the end, 3 am, gameboy on repeat. ❤
@@manogaming6534 honey, if you call everyone a hater, why are you even here? Stop talking nonsense! Rose is THE ONLY reason I cared about BP in the first place. She's a decent singer, but nothing special. There's no point arguing with a crazy BLINK because you would NEVER accept the fact. She's not the best! It doesn't matter if she was sick or not, because she's not much better when she's not sick. Go watch ANY Mamamoo member, Wendy, Taeyeon, BoA, Ailee, Apink's Eunji, and many others. Rose is not the only one who was sick and still had to perform. For the record: EVERYONE I mentioned singing LIVE every time! Especially Mamamoo. They're THE ONLY Kpop artists who NEVER did a lip sync! The Kpop industry actually made fun of them because of that. Lastly, I worked with singers, my mother is a vocal coach so I can sing as well, so I know how hard it is to sing live when you're sick, BUT the fact that you're calling everyone a hater in the comment section proves my point about you don't care about anything, you're just a typical fan who never gonna accept if their faves aren't as good as they think. EVERY singer had a bad day, even the best, but Rose was never the best! She's pretty much the Korean Taylor Swift. Can sing, but she's not the best, just popular as hell.
Ok but why does she need to change? I swear, y'all are never greatful for anything, it's insane...She has an amazing voice, great technique, and doesn't need to change herself, evolve, progress or whatnot. She has nothing to progress on, she is already doing very well. Idk what kind of expectations you all have, but it's a bit ridiculous. Yes, what she is doing IS ENOUGH. Cause it's HER work, HER truth, HER abilities and HER music. She doesn't have to please anybody and change 1000 times for every single one of y'all!
Ok I'll say it here because I haven't got anywhere better for it: I hope when Blackpink does return, they ditch "Blackpink in your area". Or maybe say it one more time and never again. They have so far far far outgrown having a catchphrase that has to be forced into everything, and Rose's album is a great example of that. After so long it has become like killing Kenny on South Park, or the Simpsons couch gag. When it becomes an end in itself it's time for it to go
The fact the Jennie and lisa feels like they just continue what they were doing in BP meanwhile Rosé knew what she wants to do with her solo music. She knows that Rosé from Blackpink is far from Roseanne who loves laid back kind of music that doesn't have loud and banger sounds, doesn't need high budget MV or perfect choreo or expensive outfits.
Ok that fine for to have that options that time did a way better context and respectful but I still don't agree with you all due respect or video all guys talk voice skills it fine but at the end don't mean. The only thing that matters is can connect the crowd makes feel something that the important thing if can't do that all due how much skill you got if they don't care about you or the song also how they make you feel you are done I see of great singing hit note out this world but they can't do that. That why I can't agree with this video they more about music then skill it about how makes the viewer in they heart that was it part that was music is and I understand what in my options and I guess what you said but they more thing look then rages they have been lot great sing didn't well sing the highest note but they makes people it well they can't understand like Rosé I can keep going but this all day but I think you got my point and that all going said but that
OK why are you here replies if don't iike her it funny to me you wanted your time to say that when got also better than to man if she the wrong what about this generation more of everyone say can't sing. I can keep going if want to but I think I got my point cross it fine for you have your opinion but you not make facts also you need to be respectful about it that all going said but that
She's discovering herself without yg pressure and I really like where she's going
Yes same! She is definitely one of my favorite artist🫶
She's just a weak vocalist especially for a main vocalist
@Lil-h2x you are a Lisa stan or an army I bet. You are obsessed with hating on Rosé everywhere which means she already won
@@Lil-h2x OK why are you here replies if don't iike her it funny to me you wanted your time to say that when got also better than to man if she the wrong what about this generation more of everyone say can't sing. I can keep going if want to but I think I got my point cross it fine for you have your opinion but you not make facts also you need to be respectful about it that all going said but that
@@Lil-h2x bot
watching the apt music video was genuinely emotional as a blink for nearly 4 years now. i was like "we finally get to hear from the singer-songwriter rosé that we all knew was waiting to shine!"
Apt had 11 writers
@@Lil-h2xjust because they called her a singer-songwriter doesn’t mean she wrote the song by herself
Some of y’all are so miserable
@Lil-h2x yeah honey so does Taylor Swift one artist cannot create and produce a song alone even if the words are theirs. There is a lot involved. As a Lisa stan you need to stop talking pronto
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
@@Lil-h2x bot
I remember the last video you did of Rose, you said you wanted to hear something different from her, and I thought to myself, me too.. And I’m so glad, that even though it’s not drastic, she’s working on herself and it shows!
I can still tell she is the least popular BP member.. like aside from Apt, she is getting no attention... meanwhile everything Lisa releases gets attention
@@mariasol1545it seems to me like Lisa is engaging in some considerable Payola tbh.
@mariasol1545 Sorry sweetheart this isnt Thailand number one and number 2 we do not care about a Thai getting her boyfriend to pay. Also Rosé is not getting any attention? Um you are the one bringing up Lisa on her videos?
@@mariasol1545when will you guys stop comparing both lisa and rosé both have different sound and goals. So the results will be different
@@austinvhmlisa has been getting attention way back fredric even came into the picture.
she sounded so good in number one girl (when the song came out, chill), i was proud omg 😭😭
Let's keep in mind that she was sick in a whole bunch of these performences but imo she did pretty well
Actually all of her performances.
But still haters decide to troll her..
@@manogaming6534 fr especially twitter, they hella toxic
he did acknowledge it! she did pretty well!
Aint like she does any better while being healthy....
NICE! the classic sick card
I think for someone like Rosé who continuously strives to get better, she is evolving in her vocal capacity, and letting go of what was taught during her YG days. I think she has a distinct vocal style that she wants to stick to and that’s perfect. But genre wise, I would like to see more versatility. I think also, her live vocal stability and performance heavily depends on her head space and state of mind. I can fully tell when she’s nervous and when she’s confident or neutral, and it really shows in how her vocals come out. I’m actually quite impressed with all her live performances these days even if some got criticism. That’s alright, but you can totally see her trying to improve even if it’s slow and steady. The consistency of dedication is something I’ve truly seen in her that I haven’t seen in others. It’s quite refreshing to hear and see, and she actually communicates this to us herself and documents it all. How she wish she had more time in the past to learn and develop the skills she wanted to excel in especially in the production realm when it comes to composing, writing, producing, and more. She’s trying to do things raw and authentic and that’s already a lot more than a lot of what Kpop is doing and even western artists. She’s not being made and curated. She already has a sense of self and is improving on that and ways to express what she already has in mind. She wants to make sure that the lyrics are truly hers and are unique to her mind, and as well as the music turnout. I usually never say this, because I love constructive criticism…but for someone like her I’d just parade her growth especially when she’s coming into her own skin as a soloist. She’s spent her entire career being given stuff and being told things and it’s suppressed who she truly was. I know she’s someone who doesn’t want something already prepared and written for her, she wants to be the creator herself. That’s a true artist, a true musician indeed. Doesn’t have to be perfect, but has to show artistry. There’s many people who want something made for them in order to excel, that’s the short way. Rosie took a lot of time and work before its release, as well as heartbreak and experiences. I’ve never gone through any of that but somehow I feel goosebumps and experience shivers when I hear her sing.
Also have we noticed how much she’s challenged herself in terms of growth? She hasn’t been using back tracks and fully relied on her vocals during performances. I like that she’s trying to stay true to her growth by giving herself these challenges. That “no, I will challenge myself and prove to myself that I CAN perform live better each time I get on the stage” I can see in her personality that a lot of her movements and improvements are not done to show her growth to the public as much as it is for her own fulfillment. The satisfaction of her fans and the audience is definitely a part of the validation, but I feel that it’s been a journey to show herself that she can do it. It’s such a mature way of navigating your dreams. While supporting your supporters is very important, focusing on yourself in a healthy manner is even more important. We get to see her journey play out in real time. It feels like a real time documentary I’m watching after each one of her eras and events. She’s starting to share more now thats she’s not restricted, she’s starting to connect more with the world. I always saw that even in the group she tried connecting and having engagement with blinks and fans as much as she could, but now that the barriers have dissolved she’s taking advantage of that to tell us her story.
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
Loved the album! She started pretty strong as a soloist. Looking forward to her future work
She does show her vocal range and signature vocal color, and she’s sounding less cursive. Voice lessons for continuous improvement is good - but more than that, she needs to rest her voice. She’s doing a lot and not giving her voice a rest and it’s putting a strain on important live performances. I still need to hear her sing “stay a little longer” and “not the same” live! And Drinks or Coffee needs to be a single! Her embellishments in the album are so delicious.
Agree completely. The amount of interviews and promotions she's been doing is kind of insane, I respect how hard she's working but that would wear anyone down after a while. It's like an athlete playing every single day, of course they won't be performing as well on the 5th or 6th game.
And it's obvious because some of her live performances are amazing, you can see the growth of just how good she is now. But other ones she's clearly fatigued and her throat sounds sore, some people said she's sick idk if it's true but either way you can tell it's not her full potential. Which sucks because some people will only see those ones and judge her for it
Aww, I rlly wish I listened to those songs! She’s literally improved in vocals
It's just being one (single) album, I feel rosé's solo career gonna have a long run. She's gonna explore more genres/styles, she will do tours, OST, Korean songs, maybe acting too... . I can't wait for her to release more and more and more songs.
now you're mentioned it, the fact that she haven't done any OST is surprising..her voice is so sweet and perfect for OSTs🌹
Omg I can't wait for her osts
She’s definitely not plateauing or getting worse but I definitely don’t think she’s progressing as fast as blinks think she is, she’s def better within her belting/lows than her last active year but it isn’t a HUGE improvement. I think while Rosie ofc has the possibility to greatly improved, she might just continue to perfect where she’s at currently without fully taking the jump from stylistic vocalist to technical vocalist, which wouldn’t be terrible for her since she already has a decent technical understanding of her voice.
We don't want her to change into something she doesn't want too.
She is a great vocalist. Her voice is full of emotions. People with musical ears appreciate her.
All of her songs scream emotions. And we love it. Her style is what makes her unique and seperate from boring voices.
@ nobody said anything abt changing her
@@DeeDeeDeeeeewell u did... U said she should change to a technical singer.. Whatever that means
@@manogaming6534did you read the comment with your eyes closed 😭
@manogaming6534 be like: “People with musical ears appreciate her.”
Also @manogaming6534: “wHaT’s a TeChNicAL SiNgEr?”
she sounds a little bit more like her pre-debut days
Yeah.. Like in without u.
Don’t agree with that. Her voice sounds fuller but not like pre debut. Pre debut she sounded very grounded and less powerful. With that pre debut technique of hers, she wouldn’t have been able to hit higher belted notes
@@kledi3817 Not saying downgrade, I'm saying sound, like her tone, obi that she is way more skilled than back then, compared to the kpop-esque sound she uses for the bp songs
@@s.ekkii_she uses deep tone more often
She used all her skills from the course of her career but is now singing in a tone closer to her natural one like predebut, aka less stylized
Beyond agreeing that Rosé's technique has improved significantly because she decided to move away from the vocal training style YG taught her, she, of course, still needs to keep training her vocal cords like any other artist who considers themselves a vocalist. Even the best singers with the greatest vocal ranges never stop studying. I hope she has found or can find a vocal coach to guide her and help her discover and improve her own voice, as that will only make her an even greater artist than she already is. The soul-stirring interpretation she delivers is undoubtedly something that makes her unique and has been with her for a long time. 💗
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
I think she does, one thing I've l learned about her she's never satisfied, she's hard on herself and always wants to improve, and you can see the slow but steady improvement in her vocals since debut in 2016. Especially in her new solo era she seems to have gotten a different style of vocal coaching from the one she had with YG, less stylized, more natural
THIS!!! This is what we needed from Rosé. She’s always had this potential. When he gets into her lower registry?? 👌
Rosé herself did say she was going through a breakup while on tour during an interview. 13:33 that could be a reason behind her lack of energy/vocal differences
The tour she was talking about was the 2018-2019 one I thought
@@Ashley_1227 ohhh
when I first listened to the songs and read the lyrics, I was kind of like okay? why are we saying the same thing over and over. But after listening to your and Choujimi’s videos about how this album IS big especially in the kpop context, I have a better appreciation for it. thank you for another amazing video ❤
The same thing over and over? How. Besides just being a mostly heartbreak themed album, the writing itself is quite varied and explores it from different angles
@ yea I was hoping for a bit more variety in the topics covered since it was a self-titled album, I thought we’d learn more about Rosie instead of just about the breakup, but this is not meant to be any hate, I really love a lot of the songs on the album
@@terrell835 yeah I can understand that, the focus wasn't just her as a person. but it was still her personal experiences, thoughts and emotions, which is much different from her songs in blackpink
@@terrell835 I mean girl if you listened to her documentaries, the theme of her album Rosie is literally about the stages of her breakup, how she went trough it and healed. I as well would’ve liked seeing more variety and learn more about her but it’s just the concept of the album ! And if she named it Rosie, it’s probably because it’s her first album as a solo artist. It has healed her to make this album and to express all of the raw feelings she went trough, this is truly a way for her to find herself, you know what I mean ? It’s beautiful in my opinion. But I’m sure she will obviously sing on a bunch of other different topics 🫶
I like her tone.
I love her, my favorite soloist in kpop so far
i used to dislike her voice because of the yg nasal sound but nowadays she sounds sooooo much better!!!!
Vampire Hollie is my favorite song. It was foolish that she didn't include it on Spotify and it's only a bonus track but Vampire Hollie is the most authentically HÉR so please listen to it.
I downloaded it
I'm so glad you noticed she seemed to just be doing the motions in born pink too! She was still a good performer, Honestly of everyone she was visibly the least enthusiastic. I saw them perform and while they were excellent, she was how id describe a little disinterested.
I thought her album slotted in nicely with the Olivia Rodrigos and Taylor Swifts. Not for me, but solid. Her writing needs to get imo a bit better at being specific, something Taylor Swift has mastered: introducing details that sound specific without detracting from the generic relatable feels. Vocally, I do really enjoy her: she is a very emotional singer and that works well for her style. Promo-wise, she is a delight: relaxed, comes off as very earnest, nice sense of humor, very cute, very charming. If anything, I would say she seems overall a bit basic, not in a bad way! I just prefer my artists with bigger personalities, but that is a matter of personal taste. Rosé is delightful and I am enjoying watching her grow as an artist, she seems truly nice and I am glad she is finally getting the chance to spread her wings. She has earned it.
I agree with you about pretty much everything. One thing to note, if you prefer artists with bigger personalities she's probably not that. She's from the kpop system and by nature they're careful about saying risky things or being too weird, although actually she seems the most comfortable being herself out of most idols I've seen. She's always been super nice and sweet though, on and off camera according to people who have worked with her or know her, always seems grateful to the fans. She does a lot for animal welfare and other charity stuff, so I'm happy to see her doing well
@truenoae8689 there are plenty of K-pop idols with huge personalities, which also has nothing to do with saying risky things or being weird.
@halane4790 depends how you define huge personalities I guess like who are you talking about?
@@truenoae8689 not all idols I follow, but you have G. Dragon, JYP, Jonghyun and Key, Soyeon, I would even say Karina has a pretty defined and big personality for all that she is stuck within the perfect doll Aespa image. Hyuna for better or worse. In a softer manner, T.O.P., and even Chen in how he stood his ground both to SM and to the fans through the years, and Hwasa for how she constantly pushes against pressure to her basically being sexy by not bowing down. Also on this calmer, low-key side, I would include IU and BTS Jin.
If you want genuinely quirky and weird, you always have Taemin though 🤣
Rosie was such a different experience and i was so there for it. Also Happy Holidays see you next year
Yesssss i think this really shows how limiting the kpop idol factory can be, especially bc its difficult to show an individuals true potential when balancing with the other members of the group. Im also wondering if it makes any difference that she is writing the music in english too. Ugh im just so excited for her
Rose is the only member of Blackpink who has tried to better herself in her craft while in YG, from a BOM PARK 2.0 to becoming herself.
Now without having to deliver the "YG style", she seems more comfortable singing and we can see some of the Bom Style in some of her singing but now she uses it to her advantage, I think in YG she has reached the maximum of improvement and now being solo is like she has Started from scratch, showing her true tone and implementing her own style of singing...
Rosie was a great starting point. Now I want to know where she will go next and what sounds she will explore next. the best part of the album is when she is almost flirting with indie electro pop and I wish she would go fully in that direction.
Singing about being obsessed with a toxic man who broke up with you 4 years ago is now considered as growth? Things we learn
@mary4963 from singing "get on my Lamborghini vroom vroom" to a full album made by her.. it's growth.
And everyone writes about what they Experience and if that's her story. B.etter to turn into art than be a sucker on the internet, or get depressed.
@twoohoot a full album made with a conference room of mega hit making songwriters and producers. Sorry but the difference between Rose in yg and Rose now is she has a different team of song writers and producers and Atlantic's payola to help her out.
Stop the bullshitting in comparing her with the other 3 girls. All lisa 3 songs are different and it showcase her versatility. Jisoo has not even cb.
Since her solo debut, there’s been a remarkable and positive transformation, showing significant growth. She clearly needed new mentors, and it’s great to see her improving in her vocal abilities. Next, would be confidence.
The thing with Rosé is that sheknows her strengths and weaknesses. She knows her range. She knows her limits. That's why she knows how to play with it.
You can tell she takes her craft very seriously. In the documentary years ago blackpinks producer said she has a lot of ideas for songs but she's shy about sharing them, and she said she has a lot of respect for music and doesn't want to share music unless she feels it's up to a certain standard. She's very careful and knows exactly what she wants to do with her music. I'm so proud of her she's reached the point she's confident sharing her music with us
Great analysis!! I agree with it wholeheartedly
Leaving YG for their solo careers was definitely the best decision for the four members (and honestly, if I were them, I wouldn’t even renew the group’s contract). This is especially true for Rosé.
As for their solo work, while the only member I truly stan is Jennie, I was still curious to see what each of them would bring now that they have more freedom.
As expected, Jisoo is focusing on acting, but I think she’ll likely release solo music from time to time. However, I wasn’t fond of her solo under YG; it felt incomplete. I’m not sure what to expect from her musically moving forward.
As for Lisa, I think she’s still didn't found her artistic identity. And I’m sorry, but overall, what she’s released so far feels mediocre to me.
Jennie, my dear Jennie… I had higher expectations for her. When Mantra came out, I could feel the freedom in the choreography, like she’s no longer under YG’s control. But the song itself, though better than Lisa’s music, still feels very YG-influenced to me. I’m still waiting for her full album to get a clearer picture.
Rosé, I haven’t listened to her full album yet, but you’ve definitely made me want to check it out. So far, I’ve only heard Number One Girl and APT. Honestly, I had no expectations because her solo under YG was my least favorite, but right now, her solo work is definitely my favorite. I love her way of singing now-it confirms my belief that the way she sang during those eight years at YG was more their choice than hers.
By the way, do you plan on doing a Q&A video or a live stream Q&A? 🤣😉 (Yes, that was in my dream 🤣)
Also, how about a vocal ranking for the Big 3 girl groups (Twice, BP, RV, Itzy, Aespa, Nmixx, and BM)?
Edit :
I listened to Rosé's album and I completely get your description of it and her musicality and I totally agree! The only other album in 2024 that gave me such a strong emotional impact and enjoyment on the first listen is the Armageddon album, and I absolutely LOVE that album !
My favorite song is : Stay a little longer 😍
Please give a me review of rosie after hearing it.❤
@amina_nasir_ch Sure !
I do not care about what the others want but both for her mental health and her career and voice training Rosé should not return to Blackpink.
Check out Vampire Hollie by Rosé on TH-cam. You are welcome in advance
@@austinvhmi think the same, I'm actually scared of YG, i don't want her to sing those songs without meanings, I don't wanna hear more ratatatas or shut downs from Rosé, shes so much better than that. But her in Blackpink is just not her.
Its good loke she is balancing out her style with technique she had big improvement since her debut she sounds more open and
Kinda heady
Which is okay
Her biggest strength is that she can ride u in a rollercoaster of emotions with her vocals
If she improves and prioritise technique she may become a Powerhouse vocalist
She is already talentes even with little training when she debut she had good improvement.
Her upper register and agility and upoer belts hold good potential.
2:17 - Yeah I think that the same thing should be apply to Jisoo. To me it's very clear that she is always singing in a tone not comfortable to her, or one tone that wouldn't be the best to her voice. But once she makes part of a group and they sing together the same song, the tone of the song that they sing have to be in a tone that all they can sing. And she end up being the sacrificed one...
Also, having Bruno Mars and Atlantic as her mentors and guide, Rosé will surely improve. She was always described by her team as the most hard working and always seek for greatness not satisfying herself with mediocrity. So for sure, she will improve and develop more her artistry, musicality and techniques.
If you are a rosé bias since 2016 you will know that she's always been expressive, extrovert, extra, social butterfly, eloquent and smart. It's that she's been overshadowed with her members and has the least screen time
I'm early!! Another day, another awesome video! Merry christmas and happy new year!
I've been waiting for her to start using her lower register ever since I first heard her voice in that gdragon song. Honestly, it's so much better than her nasal whiny voice she uses in bp songs
She once said that she was doing the Born Pink tour with a broken heart as that is when she brock up
That was the album tour not born pink
The gist I get from your videos is what has caught my attention a lot of times: There is a very specific preference for singing sytle (and even tone of voice) in South Korea, especially in Kpop. And I'm not just saying that just as "I have noticed" but it's been pointed out to me by friends from Korea too, particularly friends who also took vocal lessons (I lived there a while so I know some people).
Just like the tight beauty standards, there's a very inflexible preference for singing and those who break out of that comparatively narrow standard are very few and a lot of them take long to receive recognition in South Korea (sometimes they receive recognition abroad before finally getting it in SK).
Now, I don't listen to that many girl groups, but I think similarly to boy groups the singing style and singing voices don't stray too far from one another for most idols. And I don't mean that they don't have recognizable voices, but there's a reason why I have no trouble remembering the sound of G-Dragon's or Felix' (Stray Kids) or Hwasa's (Mamamoo) singing while I need to really think for other idols how I would describe the differences in their sounds - if I can even remember what they specifically sound like.
For me the best example is that Jungkook is certainly a singer which a lot of people will tell you has great vocal stability, great technique and a good range, to me, as someone who is not good at noticing such details as I have no deeper knowledge (nor skill) when it comes to singing, his voice sounds like most kpop singers. I sure can recognize it when I hear it but to me it was somewhat never his voice which defined BTS' sounds or made it unique.
Ofc this is just my personal opinion and I do know that I have my own preference for singing voices which might strongly impact how I perceive things here (I prefer the likes of Kim Feel, though not kpop, and Woosung from The Rose). It's just that others have agreed with me a lot, even people who know more about singing than I do, so I feel like there is a certain truth to it.
Another video, another great day
I've been waiting for your opinion regarding Rose's live performance, apparently you're recapping everything into this video including ur thougts on "Rosie".
I agree wholeheartedly with your opinion. I'm a number one (fan of Rosie) but I'm rational and realistic enough in reading and also giving constructive criticism on her musics. Overall, I'm so proud of her vocal improvement. However, I'm not gonna lie her BBC Live Lounge, especially when she covered "Last Christmas" had some flaws (I even think when she sang it live with BlackPink it was a better performance), I hope it only happened because she was unwell at the moment. I also notice in some of her interview she mention getting vocal coach from Bruno which I'm happy to hear that she keep training her vocal and I personally feel the improvement already.
I believe learning, in every aspect of life, is a never ending process. Therefore, I wish Rosie will always keep learning to a better singer, musician, songwriter because as a fan, I enjoy her growth!! Good luck for your future Rosieeee and I hope you Rosie will see this video too (because this is a great constructive criticism)
And also I feel like she's slowly learning in building confidence abt having her performing on her own (please see her Elvis Duran interview when being asked abt concert stuff). Therefore, I sincerely hope she's not in a hurry for her concert and need to be well-prepared for everything bcs I'm sure it's quite challenging from having to perform as a group (where each of them have their own part) to sing on ur own where you sing full song by yourself!
P.s. to some Rosie fans who's angry with this video. Tbh, I don't get why you are angry at all, to be disagree with his opinion is okay and can be said in a polite manner, but being angry?!
Please broaden your mind and be mature to understand that criticism (especially when it's constructive) is not equal to hate. Stop treating any artist you like that they have to be 100% perfect in everyone's eyes
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
@@bumblebee8163what are you on about
Merry Christmas ☺🎄✨ Thank you for the great video!
Now that bo members go solo i hope all of them improve their vocals
Her vocal tier's improved too, it's C-/C
Now people will correct me that it's D+ or even D. Girl has improved guyz, let's just accept it. And she is improving everyday, giving her best...
She is a dedicated professional singer who will always seek ways to improve or add to her craft.
She has definately improved vocally overall.
Lower register :
Doesnt sounds much airy as she used to or doesnt stuggles much with the low notes. Support gain more better consistency.
Mix :
Sounds more open,cleaner,engaged,phrasings sounds good,more better support and projection,sounds even fuller and less shallow
I think Rosé and Jisoo really had a good voice if they take more training with good vocal coaches, they can become one of the best singers.
i dont know much about vocal technique and stuff but her voice always move me to tears when she sings. My fav female idol 😊
I'm a proud blink and i love rose but i agree that Rose need better vocal coach and lots of vocal training, her debut album Rosie is amazing and touch many of us, we can hear her emotions blending with her songs but again to reach higher level to become great singer. her soul, emotions and good writings are not enough.
She better come up with better vocal technique if she wants to stay at the top as a singer and artist. She has many potentials, She need to realized that she is no longer K-Pop Artist and she need to step up her game
Bruno le brindo un entrenedor vocal.Rose lo mencionó en una entrevista
Rosé needs theatrical training to reach her peak Soprano voice.
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
In my view, YG used a similar approach to the "Britney Spears technique," altering her voice to sound more childlike / babyish instead of allowing her to explore her natural vocal tone. Additionally, they didn’t provide her with enough training to fully develop her potential, as her voice didn’t align with YG’s signature sound.
I hope she has recognized this and will continue to grow and refine her voice, which is her true instrument. ❤ So proud of her and her new a album
Yeah i agree, i really wish she would take singing more serious and get vocals lessons from GOOD vocal teachers. Like get them from the same people who trained Ariana, Beyonce etc. She can do so much more and has all the money to improve but doesn't and it pisses me off.
Well that your option but you don't know what is going behind thing is just your options and if get mad at her a person how is one of best singer in K-pop can't sing what about this generation people more said don't sing live I can keep going if want to next when you say use barin it fine to have a option but you need to have respect it need be fact not trying make your option fact at the end of the day
@ You're right i don't know whats going on in her personal life and it's none of my business but what i said was not wrong. She has a lot of potential to be better, that's a fact. She has the money to get better and that is another fact. I never said she can't sing, i did say that she doesn't take it as serious as she should and that's simply the truth cause this is the only improvement she's had in the past 8 years of her career.
And yes i am aware that Yg restricted her a lot but after their contract renewal in 2022 she had all the power to start getting decent vocal lessons. And i know she was on tour and recording her album which made her busy but also look at huge stars like Ariana who also toured and filmed for Wicked and still managed to get vocal lessons and improve even more.
She is a good singer but not a good vocalist and me giving criticism cause i like her and want her to improve doesn't mean i'm hating. I'm happy she was able to improve at least a little, you can tell that Bruno taught her a few good tricks. I hope she keeps on going and gets actual lessons cause a career in the West is sadly not going to fly if she keeps singing at a mediocre level. The general public is ruthless and will hate on the slightest flaw.
Ok that fine for to have that options that time did a way better context and respectful but I still don't agree with you all due respect or video all guys talk voice skills it fine but at the end don't mean. The only thing that matters is can connect the crowd makes feel something that the important thing if can't do that all due how much skill you got if they don't care about you or the song also how they make you feel you are done I see of great singing hit note out this world but they can't do that. That why I can't agree with this video they more about music then skill it about how makes the viewer in they heart that was it part that was music is and I understand what in my options and I guess what you said but they more thing look then rages they have been lot great sing didn't well sing the highest note but they makes people it well they can't understand like Rosé I can keep going but this all day but I think you got my point and that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground
According to me, kpop trains people to be perfect robots but not artists who experiment, take risks and show their true selves. Not that am saying that Rose is a bad singer, but if she had debuted in the western music industry, she would have gotten a chance to perfect her vocals as she has the potential.
18:32 whiplash jumpscared me LMAO
Off topic, but in regard to the songs. I love the 3 singles though APT aged like milk, but I find I don’t find myself looking at any of her material. One thing I like about Kpop over pop is that it’s visual as much as auditory. Kpop will even make dances for slow songs. I’ve listened to the music but have no interest in checking out videos, pictures or performances.
please we need these videos with little mix’s solos!!!
I was so pleasantly surprised when heard her singing in a heartier chest voice/mix. Her lower register that was once not as utilised is now an asset that she plays with regularly!
I'm loving this new side of Rosé. Rosie is such a relating album ❤❤
You can check Rosé's fan cam from fans in the live audience in youngji show. She sound exactly the same 😭
i have similar problems as rosé especially as high soprano, although i am not singer but i like to sing as a hobby.
Yes!!! I love love love drinks or coffee!!!! I had it on replay today 😅😅
Rosè is so beautiful and pretty
I feel like rosie's change in her placement allowed her to sound a lot less forced and fake, and atleast for me, she's able to emote with her voice even better than before.I REALLY felt that that with number one girl especially
Edit: Also, I HAVE noticed the embellishments a lot in kpop, the best example I can come up with apart from goeun and swan of purple kiss is that infamous good day high note from iu
I never knew what those embellishments were called I always thought of it as like an orgasm sound 😭
Merry Christmas and happy new year. Hopefully we can see more exo in next year videos.🙏
I love her music but I hope she explores more vocal technique or tonality outside of her usual "moaning" type of singing technique.
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
Moaning? Try to listen to her album.
Everyone has different style
@@prdm9290 lol. I listen to it most of the time since her album is in my playlist. Are people these days this sensitive with the word moaning? It's just a style of singing. Nothing wrong with it. 💀
I was never the biggest Blackpink fan but I really love love rosie for what it is. The album is so good coming from a kpop artist who wasn´t allowed to write her own songs. You can see the growth I always wanted from Blackpink but didn´t get.
I like the video but I feel like the title is a bit of a negative clickbait cause it doesn’t match what you’re saying in the video very well?
Talking shit about blackpink gives u money these days.
I think they just fit the title to this "series" so that's why, even though they don't criticize her that much
I am surprised you said you liked the video but you sound displeased that he wasn't negative towards Rosé. So which is it?
She sounds incredible but, a good artist would know they can always get better and better. There's always room to grow.
Honestly, when I heard the chorus of APT, I thought it was repetitive but once I listened to the whole song, I found it super enjoyable and catchy. But the amount of people I've seen saying they can't stand it or straight up calling it the worst and most annoying song ever is insane
YG seemed restrictive on Rose’s charm until she fully did her solo this recent comeback
I agree that she has improved her vocal technique and range. And that she can still improve. But let's face it - she is now one of the biggest global pop stars and certainly the biggest/most popular K-pop star. This is objectively true - all the charts prove it. Haters will still hate and point out that other singers are better. 🤣
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She dont need vocal couch anymore,what she need is vocal skills
i would say she always has this side to her.. check out her snd Jisoo's cover of Bieber's Love Yourself 7 years ago.. both of them sang it unlike their kpop side.. which in many ways is character singing
Pls do a video about all cursive singers eg minju illit, bae nmixx, rosé
Definitely one of my favorites of your videos! Still want to pimp the idea of some sort of collab with you and Wings of Pegasus. You both attack the same issue from wildly different angles. Putting you together would be greater than the sum of parts I think
I don’t agree with this video on lot this ok this coming a person how listens to Generation 1 K-pop music like H.O.T PSY Fin.K.L S.E.S and other. I understand this is this person option not based in true we need to lot that . Ok that think I don't agree with in this video. I personally did not the the tone of the way it was done in my options it fine. It like this person context or story trying making Rosè don't care about music at are and she is wrong Main vocalist in K-pop. We now not true also he not trying but thay way but the context this person's was gives us. Then person said don't take music seriously there's a problem said you don't was doing in normal lives that person all due trying make his opinion facts. That one thing you can't do also we all know Rosè care about music she takes whole year just work on this album and if person did watch those videos like he did also we see that to it that simply I don't really go part of video I didn't like anymore buy why more didn't like with video or force voice skills to only to be a great singer no that not only thing. They didn't talking more information be a great singing is to about connecting with the crowd and how make they feeling about song if don't got that don't mean how skilled you are not going make it. It but makes feeling something with they heart make them care it not about highest note it about make people feel with they heart it crowd they lot single it history going not hit note but they have context with fan like Rosè did make feel something . I see lot taught single but sometimes they can't make context. It about how tell story it well left someone make feeling emotional sometimes when hit a hit don't hit same but that context to the people and making feeling something that is my biggest problem with this video. I know person is not Rosè hate ok because one person I think he is a he will get married to his wife with Rosé singing Unit I found her for their wedding I personally in my options did like video executed also wish explain better in my options that all going said but that remember everything you need is on the ground also give you your option on this video once again remember everything you need is on the ground
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i feel like people put too much pressure on new albums, they’re experimenting they aren’t sure of their sound just yet. that’s how i feel
Can you analyze Jennie once again when her album drops? And Jisoo too? Cuz after Rosé other Bp members will also remive their albums
Really not expect Naruto original OST at the end. Wonder how I never noticed it before.
Rose is fine as is vocally. If she wants to be technically better, that’s fine, but not necessary. Her vocals aren’t damaging her voice. I remember years ago before you got into Kpop, people online were saying how she and Jungkook were gonna ruin their voices, but we know how that was false.
A good artist (specially up the average ones) keep always improving themselves, which include vocal lessons constantly to keep what they have and acquire more techniques and try avoid vocal vices. I think Rosé sing very well, but she can be better and avoid some vices that she developed. The same thing to Jennie. She has some very clear vocal vices which is perfect to more aggressive songs like a trap, rap or rock but...to smooth songs that she sometimes like to sing, just doesn't match and clearly because she doesn't get to avoid to use them because.... They're VICES! Dãr! lolol. And not just her personal style. So these girls can improve a lot yet . . . If they want it . . . Including LISA. She already improve a lot. But the next challenge to her it is that she need start sing in live presentations like, on TV, on Radio, Podcasts and etc. But I think she is the one with the least vocal vices, since she has the most diverse style of singing among the Blackpinks...
BP definitely limited Rosé.
The clickbait title got me to click.
When will people understand this is how people sound while jumping and danceing without backtrack or lipsync we arent used to it as yg made bp lipsync all the time thats it not just rosie but all idols i see people criticising groups like illit nwjns kiof etc for sounding bad while doing jumpy choreos and dancing but thats literally how u sound while dancing
Me encanta que Rose cante tan impresionante en vivo hasta mejor que en las grabaciones tiene un estilo único y ella es fiel a su estilo.....pero demuestra a su vez que también puede incursionar en otros ritmos.. el hecho de Rose pueda tocar emociones poder hacerte llorar sin darte cuenta te das cuenta de el calibre de artista de la que estamos hablando!!!!! Gente que no está conforme siempre va a ver si lo hace bien o si lo hace mal.....no podes conformar a todos.....si creo realmente que tiene un enorme potencial!!!
I just assumed she was singing naturally again. YG pulled a Park Bom again, they love forcing styles on singers that damage their voices. I liked the earliest Rose stuff better than main BP stuff. Thank you for the video!
Yes she is discovering herself without you. She has become more an independent vocalist. And opinions are like lips. Most people have too. And again, those who cannot sing and perform at that level criticize.
Can you please brutally rank enhypen as vocalist?? I really want to know their vocals techniques after 4 year please ❤
Nah I don't think she need that much. Just stick with her stylish vocal is fine no need for drastic change. But smoothing a little maybe for higher note so it doesn't feel strained. Overall she's good idol singer. I like her black hair era XD
Okay so Ive somehow got into a heated debage ( more so, she's mad at me, lol 😂) with a person for saying Nmixx are, technique wise, better vocalists than dreamcatcher. They sad Siyeon is closer to Solar and Wheein as vocalist than Lily and Haewon. Additionally, they said Siyeon sings in a different singing style and has a wider range, so she has to be the better vocalist.
I really don't like how you dissect artists with every single note that comes out of their mouth as if they're supposed to be perfect like that, as if they're not humans who cannot go slightly off for a second
In all of her apt, number one girl performances she is sick. Confirmed by her staff members.
But still she sounds this good. Haters will hate.. Players will play... Stay a little longer, call it the end, 3 am, gameboy on repeat. ❤
I like her but stop making excuses for Idols not just Rose. I heard many Idols singing while they were sick and sounded much better.
@@david3388just say u hate Rosie and leave.
Try singing with a soar throat and you'll understand.
@@david3388which idols r u talking about?
Most idol lip sync Or go on hiatus if they r sick like her.
@@david3388 she have a sore throat and a cold which affect your voice stay dumd all you want but it wont change the fact
@@manogaming6534 honey, if you call everyone a hater, why are you even here? Stop talking nonsense! Rose is THE ONLY reason I cared about BP in the first place. She's a decent singer, but nothing special. There's no point arguing with a crazy BLINK because you would NEVER accept the fact. She's not the best! It doesn't matter if she was sick or not, because she's not much better when she's not sick.
Go watch ANY Mamamoo member, Wendy, Taeyeon, BoA, Ailee, Apink's Eunji, and many others. Rose is not the only one who was sick and still had to perform. For the record: EVERYONE I mentioned singing LIVE every time! Especially Mamamoo. They're THE ONLY Kpop artists who NEVER did a lip sync! The Kpop industry actually made fun of them because of that.
Lastly, I worked with singers, my mother is a vocal coach so I can sing as well, so I know how hard it is to sing live when you're sick, BUT the fact that you're calling everyone a hater in the comment section proves my point about you don't care about anything, you're just a typical fan who never gonna accept if their faves aren't as good as they think.
EVERY singer had a bad day, even the best, but Rose was never the best! She's pretty much the Korean Taylor Swift. Can sing, but she's not the best, just popular as hell.
can you do that video but with Jihyo?🙏
My girl has been sick during promotions lol. Like even her interviews you can hear her hoarse voice
I feel like shes singing in her own tone this era right? Like she's not singing in her typical yg cursive singing tone 🤔✨🩷
That pinkahaird guy is so hot
her sick wtf
Ok but why does she need to change? I swear, y'all are never greatful for anything, it's insane...She has an amazing voice, great technique, and doesn't need to change herself, evolve, progress or whatnot. She has nothing to progress on, she is already doing very well. Idk what kind of expectations you all have, but it's a bit ridiculous. Yes, what she is doing IS ENOUGH. Cause it's HER work, HER truth, HER abilities and HER music. She doesn't have to please anybody and change 1000 times for every single one of y'all!
Ok I'll say it here because I haven't got anywhere better for it: I hope when Blackpink does return, they ditch "Blackpink in your area". Or maybe say it one more time and never again. They have so far far far outgrown having a catchphrase that has to be forced into everything, and Rose's album is a great example of that. After so long it has become like killing Kenny on South Park, or the Simpsons couch gag. When it becomes an end in itself it's time for it to go
The fact the Jennie and lisa feels like they just continue what they were doing in BP meanwhile Rosé knew what she wants to do with her solo music. She knows that Rosé from Blackpink is far from Roseanne who loves laid back kind of music that doesn't have loud and banger sounds, doesn't need high budget MV or perfect choreo or expensive outfits.
i love her voice, once she gets vocal lessons it’s literally OVER
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Rosè is and has always been an immense talent. She's here to stay
Ah of course the rose defenders coming to the rescue in the comments 😂
There’s not much to defend. also, this is a rosé video; ofc her fans are going to be here
What is there to defend he gave her a good review lol
Ok that fine for to have that options that time did a way better context and respectful but I still don't agree with you all due respect or video all guys talk voice skills it fine but at the end don't mean. The only thing that matters is can connect the crowd makes feel something that the important thing if can't do that all due how much skill you got if they don't care about you or the song also how they make you feel you are done I see of great singing hit note out this world but they can't do that. That why I can't agree with this video they more about music then skill it about how makes the viewer in they heart that was it part that was music is and I understand what in my options and I guess what you said but they more thing look then rages they have been lot great sing didn't well sing the highest note but they makes people it well they can't understand like Rosé I can keep going but this all day but I think you got my point and that all going said but that
OK why are you here replies if don't iike her it funny to me you wanted your time to say that when got also better than to man if she the wrong what about this generation more of everyone say can't sing. I can keep going if want to but I think I got my point cross it fine for you have your opinion but you not make facts also you need to be respectful about it that all going said but that
she's an ok singer. very mediocre.