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I've been a musician since I was a kid. I didn't get into Classical guitar till I was 60 3 years ago. I love it! People have the misconception that Classical music is full of stuffy people; total stereotype...on the contrary; I've met so many beautiful people. Humble, down to earth that I just love. Enjoy the journey. It doesn't mean you can't still enjoy and play blues, rock and roll, folk country whatever! I know a Classical guitarist that plays EVH and SRV when he plugs in!!!! We're musicians! The most fun you'll ever have with your clothes on.
Thank you Brandon! I was led to believe a footstool was the only option but and was dismayed at how uncomfortable it was. Huge relief to find this video!
Great presentation! Nice clear pronounciation and a relaxed and mildly enthusiastic and calm person. I'm 6'4" and like the guitar up high. I use a Tenuto but the suction cups keep coming off. I use the footstool when needed but it does appear bad for your back and doesnt give as much of an opport. for variability. I think I'd like the Guitar life. It is not cheap but neither is the Ergolift. Which you like. I now feel liberated to use the strap
I purchased the ego support about a week ago after noticing you using one in more than one occasion. I instantly enjoyed playing the guitar more. I played acoustic guitar for around fifteen-years, never played classical until a few weeks ago. Its a whole different animal! Thank you for your informative and incredibly entertaining videos to help on my new journey. It feels an awful lot like learning the guitar all over again, and that's not a bad thing! Cheers!
Brandon, I want to thank you for introducing me to the idea of using non-slip mats or pads such as the Kling on. I use them with my hollow-body electric now instead of a strap. Total game changer! No more strain on my shoulders! THANK YOU!
Dear Brandon. As a player and teacher of classical guitar for 55+ years, I find your opinions refreshing and insightful. I have just watched your video re guitar supports. Suffice to say, I am a footstool traditionalist, though the alternatives are fascinating. I constantly tell my students - "how lucky are we to be sharing the wonderful classical guitar world together". I get this feeling from your videos. I am nails only, and of course spend much time shaping and filing. I cannot comprehend how you might oscillate between nails/no nails ! Thank you Brandon for your open-mindedness. Cluso
Once I started using straps on my guitar(s) everything improved. I used to improvise something to use as a footstool because that's what I rmemebered from my classic guitar lessons as a kid. It didn't do much for me especially when wearing shorts or some similar soprts clothing. My guitars were always sliding around. So yeah, a guitar strap is the way to play for me, and it also enables me to play standing.
07:06 "But I was never comfortable". Madeline Bruser touches upon this problem while using a foot stool (because of its unergonomic design) in her wonderful book "The Art of Practicing: A Guide to Making Music from the Heart". Ms Bruser is a classical pianist but much of what she teaches can be applied to almost any instrument. Her book is a worthy supplement to what Mr. Acker teaches in his fine series.
Thank you so much! My body shape simply won't let me use a footstool, and I didn't know what else to do to get that proper 45 degree angle. The strap is the perfect answer for me. I feel so encouraged to keep on playing with a hope of making progress. Thank you again.
I put an end pin, a small brass one on my concert uke yesterday and the strap. This has really improved and transformed my playing, I'm still a beginner been playing ukulele one month and I'm teaching myself classical ukulele with in slanted position which is more comfortable for me because am petit, and my hands are small.
A wonderful video, Brandon. Not only do I find the information you provide very helpful, I also very much enjoy the atmosphere you create in the videos with the lighting and the way your voice sounds almost like ASMR. So soothing and pleasant!
Hello Brandon I would like to tell thou that how much I am benefited from thy channel. Even mom noticed my improvements that I earned from thy channel which she now encourages me a lot to visit thy channel frequently. Besides me haven't ever thought of sitting position and guitar support before, which was actually setting me back from progression. Eventually I got these tips to revamp my skills. This is such a great solution that thou shared us. I used to use a stool chair but I sort of had this uncomfortable feeling that thou have mentioned and realized there was something wrong about my position. Which I finally figured everything out from this video. Thanks Brandon!
I have wanted to learn how to play a musical instrument, *any* musical instrument, my whole life, and haven't had the opportunity before because of cost. But recently a lot of companies have been making relatively high quality guitars at a much lower price point than ever before, and with channels like this providing a wealth of free education, it really seems like now is a better time to get into guitar than ever before. I can't wait to get started!
I started guitar lessons at age 68. Go for it. Although, I have had an instructor, who retired from teaching and I am going to be looking for another teacher.
Thank you so much for this video! I’ve mostly quit playing because it is so uncomfortable using a foot stool. You just gave me options I didn’t even know about. You are the best!😊
I enjoy watching your videos. You are smart, and you are smiling all the time, you really enjoy what you do. Your passion is illuminating!! Keep up the good work and tips!
I have been using the "guitarlift" for over a year now and it is the best in my opinion, I can't even play without it anymore. It fits on my hard case on top of the guitar which is a plus. The only down side is that the suction cups does not work well in non gloss guitar finishing.
I remember at my learning stage, experienced players had their own home made devices, yes that long ago, I saw foam blocks roughly cut to shape, folded towels but never a strap. Great video.
I also fiddled around with many solutions after discarding the stool. What I found about these huge supports is that it's so inconvenient to carry around. The only solution would be a backpack, but in some situations I wouldn't need one otherwise, and I like travelling light. For me the best solution is these lightweight folding suction cup supports like Gitano's or Tenuto's products. They are very secure, can be varied in many different ways and super convenient to just fold in and put back into the case while it's still on the guitar. Some people say suction cups will betray you, but I find that if you just press it against the body of the guitar every time you pick it up, it won't let go.
I'm very short and have been playing folk for 10 years, mostly standing up, sitting somewhere around a fire, walking and often around children. So the strap has always been my go-to, and I actually love the secure feeling of it. The trick is to find the right tightness so the guitar doesn't rotate down. Lately I've been learning classical guitar, and have been struggling with the footstool method. Thank you for this video! I am going to stick with the strap.
@@rollinOnCode I have a button at the bottom and tie the other end to the headstock, just like Mr. Acker. One of my Folk Guitars has another button on the body near the neck, which makes for an even more secure hold.
@@rollinOnCodethere are also straps for classical guitar - they don't need a button, but they are not as popular as the straps for guitars which do have buttons. Such straps attach to guitar with help of a cloth-protected hook that clings to the wood in the resonator hole. The possibility to damage wood is absolutely miserable. Just try to tipe classical guitar strap.
I'm so glad I came across this video, I've had a lot of time to practice recently, currently an average of 3 hours per day, and using the adjustable foot stool for the past month has given me back aches and just felt super uncomfortable. I'm thinking of trying the guitar lift for it's simplicity. Thank you Brandon for your informative videos and clear way of explaining things!
I just bought my first classical guitar today (previously playing acoustic), and after watching this video, I'm also considering the guitar lift. Hopefully it ships to Australia
14:42 I heard "Klingon stabilizers" and I briefly thought I was in the wrong video channel. I use a guitar support that Brandon doesn't cover here, the Tenor TPGS+, a very small, foldable device that attaches to the lower bout. I had tried them before (Bradford Werner reviewed one), but they weren't super stable; the new version has two additional suction cups, however, and feels rock solid. Their main advantage is that they do what an Ergoplay does, but they are tiny and fold up against the guitar body. If you use a semi-flexible case, chances are you can fold the Tenor support and drop the whole instrument into the case and never have to remove it (it's only about a centimeter wide when folded). You will need to spend some time fiddling before you find the right spot and angle for you, and suction cups, and Brandon notes, are not 100% reliable, but on the whole, I am *very* satisfied with this new version.
A bonus of that guitar lift is it ensures your chest doesn't dampen the back vibrations (Although this isn't a problem with proper classical guitar posture )
I use the Dynarette guitar cushion. It's super easy to use - just put it on my lap under the guitar. You can adjust the height by moving the guitar forward or backward and it automatically tilts towards me. You can't adjust the size though so you'd have to make sure you buy the correct size.
I know you must make good money doing this professionally and YT just on the side, but missing your content. Glad to see an upload! Beautiful playing man
Thanks for your interest! I have been making a lot of effort to make one video a week and with my concerts, school and personal life it is about all I can manage. But you can safely expect about one a week :)
I was a block & tackle kind of guy. Just hang the dam thing from the raters, spot weld the guitar to the industrial grade hook, stand behind it & play, no problem. That fact you needed roadies to transport, assemble & adjust the bloody thing was a minor inconvenience.
I like the Sageworks guitar support. It uses magnets so you don't have to mess with suction cups. It's a bit pricy up front, but you can use it with all your guitars by just installing a new pair of magnets.
I have been using Ergo Play for years as well, no problem with it at all. However, recently I was in a concert of the Chinese guitarist Shilong Fan. Perfect technique, speed, tone colors, dynamics... He had nothing but a chair and two pieces of gripper. The guitar just simply stood upright in his lap, like Brandon imitates at 1:12, with the Picasso painting. Not a hint of instability, insecurity... Kind of concert that leaves you amazed, changed, feeling a better human and trying all that at home with your guitar
Brandon you're the best guitarist I've ever seen in my whole life. I really loved the Nocturne that you played and you look so beautiful when you play. And one more thing, please do covers of more classical music like Liebestraüm and Canon.
I have been using the guitar lift for a few months now and I love it! An advantage that you haven't talked about is that guitar lift keeps the guitar away from your chest, which allows the back to vibrate more freely and protects the finish as well. I do find it a bit bulky but it's about the size of a iPad, which I need to carry in a bag anyway so that's perfectly fine for me.
Is the back of the guitar really that important as far as sound goes? I thought the top of the guitar was mainly vibrating & the back & sides are just bouncing the soundwaves.
Before that I was wondering. Should I hold it as I'm comfortable, or should I hold it like a m8 drew in the 1800s, or as my teacher said? Now I have an answer. Good by my footstool. Hello my new strap.
I personally use a K&M performance stand for acoustic guitar, they're meant so that you can just walk up to the stand and play, but you can have it low enough to where you can sit and play with it too. You can adjust all the angles you want to, and you can mark them so if you have to break the stand down, you can perfectly set it back up every time. They are expensive though, over $300. It's very nice to have the guitar static in place though, completely off of your body.
This is some really useful advice for me that actually comes in handy right now. I've been playing the guitar for over 6 years now, but haven't started playing classical guitar up until a few months ago and a huge portion of the reasoning to start playing classical guitar was actually due to how fascinating I found this channel to be, over the past year or so. I remember watching the collaborations with Rob Scallon, never even having considered playing anything other than my Jazz Standards, Rock Tunes and Folk Songs, when I first came in touch with these instruments and now I have completely fallen in love with the classical guitar and its brothers and sisters, aswell as with the music that's been composed for them. Thank you for your time and effort! I might've never bought a classical guitar and started enjoying music that people have been enjoying for the past 800 years, if it wasn't for this channel :)
I switch between the Ergoplay Troster, a foot stool and just slumping on the couch with crossed legs. The footstool sometimes leads to a tweaked back. I'm kind of tall so the ErgoPlay is my choice. I think the chair also is important and I have had trouble finding the right perch. I recently got an Adjustrite musician's chair (treated myself for my birthday) and it is great. Kind of expensive, but with the chair and my ErgoPlay I can be comfortable and relaxed.
the longer ribbon recommendation gave me the idea to repurpose the guitar strap I was using. i pulled the strap to the longest length and it works great for tucking.
I do have SageWork umbra magnets in one of my acoustics but must confess I tend not to use the support much even though it does help maintain “good positioning”. I guess I just find it all a bit off-putting having something attached to my instrument like that - all a bit too contrived really and the attachment process detracts from the joy of just picking up the guitar and playing when one fancies it! Totally appreciate that any serious player or professional wouldnt have that feeling!!
I actually thought up of using a strap with mine super recently! I have an electric acoustic classical with the button already installed. I looped a bit of stretch band with a guitar strap, I didn't expect it to work. I was really surprised with how well it keeps the guitar solidly in position. That's extremely funny seeing that in this video. Recommend for anybody who doesn't any cash to shell out for a gitano for sure
Although I don’t yet play classical guitar, I think the Guitarlift might be my personal favorite of the bunch. Easy to use, doesn’t look too out of place on stage, and there’s almost no risk of the guitar slipping away from the player.
I actually play sitting on the floor, with my left leg as a support. Feels way more comfortable than on a char with a footstool. Might try the acrylic support though; I liked how it seemed to be way easier to use then the other leg supports.
i also do that but it actually depends on what im going to play. if i want to FOCUS AND REALLY STUDY i use a chair+footstool but if i just want to vibe alone with my guitar playing stuff just because i want, more freely and confortable then i sit on the floor
There is also the Sageworks umbra support. It is a bit of a thing to initially mount on your instrument because it requires you mount magnets inside the body, but once its set up its super easy to pop on and off, its super adjustable and no worries of a suction cup failure. My favorite!
I started on a Troster and it was great, but it slipped on my leg constantly. I 3d printed a seat strap thingie, and that worked great. Six months ago, I tried a Guitarlift, and my Troster is now gathering dust. :-)
Yay, straps are okay! I had to get one. I'm learning now and having it on my lap kills my left knuckles. The strap hugs it close to me, and holds it in the same position so I can learn my muscles where to sit and play. I kind of damaged my guitar with vast humidity changes cross country, so using a soundhole strap was right out. I didn't want to abuse the edge of the wood. So I got a cincher that goes behind the nut, down to the button-peg. I'm glad it had a lil button down there, I refuse to drill a hole in it x_x
I had the same experience as you with a foot stool in college because of how long my torso is. They seem to work really well for shorter players. An option I saw a lot of tall players go for was a foot stool and a guitar pillow so they could put the foot stool on the lowest setting. I prefer a support but I used the stool and pillow for a year and it was definitely easier on my back.
I settled on the strap some time back as the most convenient and least painful solution _for me,_ and never mind orthodoxy. OK, actually there was often a little voice in my head snarling "Blasphemer!" It's so nice to see a legitimate classical player acknowledge the strap as a legitimate option. Pretty sure you just made my day. ;)
I've been playing with a strap the last couple of years (the left, fret hand end of the strap attached at the body, not the nut) for two reasons: 1) Better posture for singing, and 2) A "have guitar, will travel" appearance. After having some difficulties I've learned that how the guitar is positioned on the body makes a huge difference. Glad there are others out there like me!
@@MrJohnBurger-JB I’ve been told that attaching a strap at the nut puts an undesirable strain on the guitar where the neck attaches to the body. Ergo, attaching it to the body of the instrument is preferable. A luthier told me that, but I don’t actually know if that’s fact or just his opinion. Perhaps that’s only true for playing standing up?
I have silicone oven liner which I place on my thigh which stops my ukulele from escaping, keeps it in place, looks a bit strange because it is bright red and spikey and feels very comfortable😁
I’ve learned more about classical guitar from this channel than any other channel. I’m thinking I’ll be ordering a guitar lift, because the footstool just isn’t working out. Other professional guitarist such as Beatrix also recommends the same lift. Two professional guitarists can’t be wrong.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought the foot stool was just not it. I've never been able to find a configuration with it where the guitar doesn't feel like it will slip out at any moment if I lift my right arm. It has been the only device I have used, so I am looking forward to trying some other options!
I have a small/medium sized guitar body and I'm able to simply sit cross legged, or with my legs crossed, and get the guitar neck at the perfect angle with both wrists/hands free to move, by supporting the guitar with my leg and strumming forearm. It turned out to be very nice for sitting at the computer for easy access to sheet music, and because of it I'm glad I bought a smaller guitar, and will definitely keep it around once I upgrade to a real one 😁
Dude i have a lot of troubles with the footstool and i have to use that 'cause college requires me to play in that classical posture, I'm definitely gonna try the strap option, thank u so much, this is what i needed!
Thank you so much for making this! (sorry for the long comment 😶) I'm always met with the fieriest arguments when I mention accessibility in the arts. Anything that makes it so that more people can participate and express themselves and CREATE things is very important! I will never forgive the purists who do their utmost to tear down supportive devices and other tools because it's "Not traditional" or "Not standard". When I was young and struggled with certain barriers, I was shot down from learning one of my favourite instruments because my teacher told me, "If you can't [do this], you shouldn't be in music." Art is art no matter how you do it! Do whatever you need to do to make it work for you! Use whatever is at your disposable to help you be comfortable!
Thanks a lot! The footstool does not really work for me as I have inflammatory bowel disease and having my leg up like this for longer periods just causes discomfort. The strap option definitely is a great option and really something I will try out!
Thank you for your lovely explanatory videos. Your videos have helped me a lot with the guitar. A Footstool gives me a back ache. I use pillows to prop to the guitar up but that's also irritating, my left foot always ends up tip toeing and the leg ends up sweating. I have to get the guitar lift. I think that's there best option. Thanks again!
I had the foot stool and have to agree that it’s not always comfortable using it sometimes feels awkward depending on the object i’m sitting on (chair, sofa etc.). I like to try the clear plastic device with the suction cup.
As a tall guy (6”4) I used to insist I needed a combination of supports to get the guitar to a good height, for a couple of years I settled on the magnetic knee support (the Atlas) plus a short footstool, but my problem with it (anyone that tried my guitar immediately noticed), was the slightest extra pressure into the guitar for extra support would collapse the support and risk falling off. The last few years I’ve settled back on a traditional footstool at full height, and made sure I get a chair that isn’t too high (a tall chair diminishes the relative height of the foot stool). Over the years my flexibility has improved and gotten more used to the footstool position and I feel it’s the most stable stance if you can make it suit you!
Id personally recommend a strap for someone with your body type. Its nice because then the height of the chair doesn't matter and you don't have to carry around extra gizmos. But if you found something you like, that's great!
A TH-cam tip I have just discovered: put timecodes in the video description so people can quickly find the section they are interested in. This would be great for reviews like this one or where you have a long introduction before playing a piece or where you showcase different instruments. A quick Google search will show up lots of advice on this.
@@brandonacker I also appreciate chapter timestampts a lot! Right now they're not working, though. You have to add one at 0:00 for TH-cam to recognize them & add them to the video. Anyway, thanks for the very informative video!
@@brandonacker 00:00 - Arpeggiato 00:19 - Intro 00:59 - General considerations 02:04 - Using a table 02:58 - Straps 06:16 - Footstools 08:02 - Ergoplay 11:07 - Woodside 13:33 - Grippers 15:12 - Guitarlift 17:11 - Conclusion I have added "General considerations" at 59s after the (indeed beautiful) intro animation, but that was just an idea. I have also shifted some a second back, as I suspect the chapter thumbnail might be wrong otherwise? (Not sure, though.) I hope that helps!
Sagework lifts are much like the Ergoplay, but use magnets (which do not inhibit the sound) and therefore you don't have to worry about the suction cup issue. I have one for classical and one for flamenco (which I haven't quite gotten the adjustment I want, but that's another story!).
Since late 2018, I have been using the "Gewa Gitano Guitar Rest" which (similar to the Ergoplay) uses 3 suction cups to attach to the guitar. The difference is that this small device folds flat against side of the guitar when not in use (while the guitar is in the case, for example). It's so convenient to not have to constantly put it on and off the guitar, not to mention it's always in the right place. I just leave it on all the time. It, of course, has the disadvantage that (in theory) the suction cups can come loose. That's only happened a couple of times in the 3+ years that I've had it and I'm still using the original cups! My trick it to soak the cups in my bathroom sink in hot water from the tap as I am changing my strings on the guitar. This seems to keep the cups soft and pliable. The replacement cups are a bit pricey, so I've always stuck with these originals. They still seem to be going strong. The other disadvantage is that (other than a bit of latitude on where exactly to place the device on the side of the guitar), it is not adjustable. I'm lucky in that it seems to hold the guitar at exactly the right height and angle for me... but your mileage may vary. It might not present the ideal position for "long bodied" guys like Brandon. If it does fit, however, you can't beat the convenience of this holder, however. (You can find it on Amazon for about $40.)
I too use this "Gewa Gitano" device and love it! Like any suction cup device, it might not work well on guitars with "a French finish" as (I am told) this finish can "breathe" and will cause the cups to let go. As Brandon says, however, one can use that static piece of plastic sheeting under the cups, however.
Hi Brandon, love the video it was informative. I was looking for a guitar support for my classical and came across the NeckUp support. It doesn't have the adjustability or the height reach of the suction cup based supports you have demoed, bit it is portable made of leather (with a plactic stiffening insert) and fits conveniently in any guitar case. Keep up the good work.
Over the years I've used both footrests and various apoyos but I actually find just sitting on a low enough seat works really fine for me. I get a good tilt and also the lower bout kind of sits against my right calf restraining the guitar from slipping to the right. The instrument feels really secure and my arms and torso are completely free.
The guitar lift is laser cut acrylic... I am sure there is a cutout pattern that can be lasered into the sheet that would remove the bulk of the weight without sacrificing much of the rigidity. I am also sure they have probably already thought of that... I wonder why they did not do it? Seems like a reasonably easy win.
Until the end of the video,I thought the suction cups on the guitar lift were on long strips of acrylic; that it was shaped like a U. I was actually thinking about that after watching the video, that it would be cool to make one that way, or, of course,as you suggest, the middle could be cut.
Thank you for an informative video. I'm sold on the strap and am going to install buttons. I've installed them on several guitars and ukuleles, so I feel confident in doing this to my classical. Like you, I don't feel comfortable with the foot stool.
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I've been looking for a lot of videos about how to use the ribbon strap for my baroque guitar! Thank you hahaha
Great advice and suggestions. You have a glorious presentation style. I've tried all sorts of methods and still come back to the footstool. Having the guitar contact directly with the thigh seems the best for me. I've actually made a solid wood stool that doesn't rock over.
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Now I can finally stop hauling a spare table with me everywhere I go. People were starting to think I was insane.
👀🤔The more, the merrier!😉
Same here I just realized it while watching the vid 🤣🤣😅
Yes. If the idea of using a table again enters your head, then you can just table that idea asap.
@@horatiodreamt that idea wont have any legs though
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The way this guy talks gives me peace.
Before I found this channel I never thought I'd be interested in classical guitar, yet here I am! Can't wait to start learning!
I've been a musician since I was a kid. I didn't get into Classical guitar till I was 60 3 years ago. I love it! People have the misconception that Classical music is full of stuffy people; total stereotype...on the contrary; I've met so many beautiful people. Humble, down to earth that I just love. Enjoy the journey. It doesn't mean you can't still enjoy and play blues, rock and roll, folk country whatever! I know a Classical guitarist that plays EVH and SRV when he plugs in!!!! We're musicians! The most fun you'll ever have with your clothes on.
oh yea me too man
so after 2 years, you playing good?
This is something people who have never played guitar won't understand how big of a concern this is
Then again, why would they need to?
@@faramund9865 very true 😂
Thank you Brandon! I was led to believe a footstool was the only option but and was dismayed at how uncomfortable it was. Huge relief to find this video!
Great presentation! Nice clear pronounciation and a relaxed and mildly enthusiastic and calm person. I'm 6'4" and like the guitar up high. I use a Tenuto but the suction cups keep coming off. I use the footstool when needed but it does appear bad for your back and doesnt give as much of an opport. for variability. I think I'd like the Guitar life. It is not cheap but neither is the Ergolift. Which you like. I now feel liberated to use the strap
Best classical guitar channel ever.
I purchased the ego support about a week ago after noticing you using one in more than one occasion. I instantly enjoyed playing the guitar more. I played acoustic guitar for around fifteen-years, never played classical until a few weeks ago. Its a whole different animal! Thank you for your informative and incredibly entertaining videos to help on my new journey. It feels an awful lot like learning the guitar all over again, and that's not a bad thing!
Cheers!
Brandon, I want to thank you for introducing me to the idea of using non-slip mats or pads such as the Kling on. I use them with my hollow-body electric now instead of a strap. Total game changer! No more strain on my shoulders! THANK YOU!
Dear Brandon. As a player and teacher of classical guitar for 55+ years, I find your opinions refreshing and insightful. I have just watched your video re guitar supports. Suffice to say, I am a footstool traditionalist, though the alternatives are fascinating. I constantly tell my students - "how lucky are we to be sharing the wonderful classical guitar world together". I get this feeling from your videos. I am nails only, and of course spend much time shaping and filing. I cannot comprehend how you might oscillate between nails/no nails ! Thank you Brandon for your open-mindedness. Cluso
Once I started using straps on my guitar(s) everything improved. I used to improvise something to use as a footstool because that's what I rmemebered from my classic guitar lessons as a kid. It didn't do much for me especially when wearing shorts or some similar soprts clothing. My guitars were always sliding around. So yeah, a guitar strap is the way to play for me, and it also enables me to play standing.
07:06 "But I was never comfortable". Madeline Bruser touches upon this problem while using a foot stool (because of its unergonomic design) in her wonderful book "The Art of Practicing: A Guide to Making Music from the Heart".
Ms Bruser is a classical pianist but much of what she teaches can be applied to almost any instrument. Her book is a worthy supplement to what Mr. Acker teaches in his fine series.
Thank you so much! My body shape simply won't let me use a footstool, and I didn't know what else to do to get that proper 45 degree angle. The strap is the perfect answer for me. I feel so encouraged to keep on playing with a hope of making progress. Thank you again.
I put an end pin, a small brass one on my concert uke yesterday and the strap. This has really improved and transformed my playing, I'm still a beginner been playing ukulele one month and I'm teaching myself classical ukulele with in slanted position which is more comfortable for me because am petit, and my hands are small.
A wonderful video, Brandon. Not only do I find the information you provide very helpful, I also very much enjoy the atmosphere you create in the videos with the lighting and the way your voice sounds almost like ASMR. So soothing and pleasant!
Hello Brandon
I would like to tell thou that how much I am benefited from thy channel. Even mom noticed my improvements that I earned from thy channel which she now encourages me a lot to visit thy channel frequently.
Besides me haven't ever thought of sitting position and guitar support before, which was actually setting me back from progression. Eventually I got these tips to revamp my skills.
This is such a great solution that thou shared us. I used to use a stool chair but I sort of had this uncomfortable feeling that thou have mentioned and realized there was something wrong about my position. Which I finally figured everything out from this video.
Thanks Brandon!
I have wanted to learn how to play a musical instrument, *any* musical instrument, my whole life, and haven't had the opportunity before because of cost. But recently a lot of companies have been making relatively high quality guitars at a much lower price point than ever before, and with channels like this providing a wealth of free education, it really seems like now is a better time to get into guitar than ever before. I can't wait to get started!
2 years later. Have you stared yet?
I started guitar lessons at age 68. Go for it. Although, I have had an instructor, who retired from teaching and I am going to be looking for another teacher.
Thank you so much for the strap instruction! Sitting on the “tail” is something I’m going to try asap! Peace and power cords.
This video is perfect! Super informative, and delving into some history was actually very intriguing. Thank you
Thank you so much for this video! I’ve mostly quit playing because it is so uncomfortable using a foot stool. You just gave me options I didn’t even know about. You are the best!😊
Yay, the shelf liner! Thought that one up myself years ago. Thanks Brandon, excellent discussion!
Such a classy presentation of the available tools. Thank you for sharing, Brandon.
I enjoy watching your videos. You are smart, and you are smiling all the time, you really enjoy what you do. Your passion is illuminating!! Keep up the good work and tips!
I have been using the "guitarlift" for over a year now and it is the best in my opinion, I can't even play without it anymore. It fits on my hard case on top of the guitar which is a plus. The only down side is that the suction cups does not work well in non gloss guitar finishing.
some much useful information and learning on this channel, thank you so much for making these videos, very helpful
I remember at my learning stage, experienced players had their own home made devices, yes that long ago, I saw foam blocks roughly cut to shape, folded towels but never a strap. Great video.
I also fiddled around with many solutions after discarding the stool. What I found about these huge supports is that it's so inconvenient to carry around. The only solution would be a backpack, but in some situations I wouldn't need one otherwise, and I like travelling light. For me the best solution is these lightweight folding suction cup supports like Gitano's or Tenuto's products. They are very secure, can be varied in many different ways and super convenient to just fold in and put back into the case while it's still on the guitar. Some people say suction cups will betray you, but I find that if you just press it against the body of the guitar every time you pick it up, it won't let go.
I'm very short and have been playing folk for 10 years, mostly standing up, sitting somewhere around a fire, walking and often around children. So the strap has always been my go-to, and I actually love the secure feeling of it. The trick is to find the right tightness so the guitar doesn't rotate down. Lately I've been learning classical guitar, and have been struggling with the footstool method. Thank you for this video! I am going to stick with the strap.
How do you strap the classical guitar?
@@rollinOnCode I have a button at the bottom and tie the other end to the headstock, just like Mr. Acker. One of my Folk Guitars has another button on the body near the neck, which makes for an even more secure hold.
@@rollinOnCodethere are also straps for classical guitar - they don't need a button, but they are not as popular as the straps for guitars which do have buttons. Such straps attach to guitar with help of a cloth-protected hook that clings to the wood in the resonator hole. The possibility to damage wood is absolutely miserable. Just try to tipe classical guitar strap.
Thank you about the idea for the strap on the classical guitar as I have been trying solve get the angle for playing right . Once again thank you ❤
Danke! So useful, so informative and so nice to watch and listen too, brillant!
I'm so glad I came across this video, I've had a lot of time to practice recently, currently an average of 3 hours per day, and using the adjustable foot stool for the past month has given me back aches and just felt super uncomfortable. I'm thinking of trying the guitar lift for it's simplicity. Thank you Brandon for your informative videos and clear way of explaining things!
I just bought my first classical guitar today (previously playing acoustic), and after watching this video, I'm also considering the guitar lift. Hopefully it ships to Australia
14:42 I heard "Klingon stabilizers" and I briefly thought I was in the wrong video channel. I use a guitar support that Brandon doesn't cover here, the Tenor TPGS+, a very small, foldable device that attaches to the lower bout. I had tried them before (Bradford Werner reviewed one), but they weren't super stable; the new version has two additional suction cups, however, and feels rock solid. Their main advantage is that they do what an Ergoplay does, but they are tiny and fold up against the guitar body. If you use a semi-flexible case, chances are you can fold the Tenor support and drop the whole instrument into the case and never have to remove it (it's only about a centimeter wide when folded). You will need to spend some time fiddling before you find the right spot and angle for you, and suction cups, and Brandon notes, are not 100% reliable, but on the whole, I am *very* satisfied with this new version.
A bonus of that guitar lift is it ensures your chest doesn't dampen the back vibrations (Although this isn't a problem with proper classical guitar posture )
When I was in uni I used to use a large wooden table. I loved it specially because of the added resonance
I use the Dynarette guitar cushion. It's super easy to use - just put it on my lap under the guitar. You can adjust the height by moving the guitar forward or backward and it automatically tilts towards me. You can't adjust the size though so you'd have to make sure you buy the correct size.
That's what I am thinking of getting. I was disappointed he didn't mention it. I don't like the idea of sticking suction caps to my guitar.
I know you must make good money doing this professionally and YT just on the side, but missing your content. Glad to see an upload! Beautiful playing man
Thanks for your interest! I have been making a lot of effort to make one video a week and with my concerts, school and personal life it is about all I can manage. But you can safely expect about one a week :)
I was a block & tackle kind of guy. Just hang the dam thing from the raters, spot weld the guitar to the industrial grade hook, stand behind it & play, no problem. That fact you needed roadies to transport, assemble & adjust the bloody thing was a minor inconvenience.
I like the Sageworks guitar support. It uses magnets so you don't have to mess with suction cups. It's a bit pricy up front, but you can use it with all your guitars by just installing a new pair of magnets.
I have been using Ergo Play for years as well, no problem with it at all. However, recently I was in a concert of the Chinese guitarist Shilong Fan. Perfect technique, speed, tone colors, dynamics... He had nothing but a chair and two pieces of gripper. The guitar just simply stood upright in his lap, like Brandon imitates at 1:12, with the Picasso painting. Not a hint of instability, insecurity... Kind of concert that leaves you amazed, changed, feeling a better human and trying all that at home with your guitar
I had the surreal experience of seeing Segovia play at the Ambassador Auditorium in the early 80s. It was pure magic.
I prefer the Ergoplay Troster aswell. Great device. Took away the pain in my neck and back.
Brandon you're the best guitarist I've ever seen in my whole life. I really loved the Nocturne that you played and you look so beautiful when you play. And one more thing, please do covers of more classical music like Liebestraüm and Canon.
I have been using the guitar lift for a few months now and I love it! An advantage that you haven't talked about is that guitar lift keeps the guitar away from your chest, which allows the back to vibrate more freely and protects the finish as well. I do find it a bit bulky but it's about the size of a iPad, which I need to carry in a bag anyway so that's perfectly fine for me.
Is the back of the guitar really that important as far as sound goes? I thought the top of the guitar was mainly vibrating & the back & sides are just bouncing the soundwaves.
"No thanks - no strap for me - I'll simply carry my table to all my gigs..." 😆
Before that I was wondering. Should I hold it as I'm comfortable, or should I hold it like a m8 drew in the 1800s, or as my teacher said? Now I have an answer. Good by my footstool. Hello my new strap.
I personally use a K&M performance stand for acoustic guitar, they're meant so that you can just walk up to the stand and play, but you can have it low enough to where you can sit and play with it too. You can adjust all the angles you want to, and you can mark them so if you have to break the stand down, you can perfectly set it back up every time. They are expensive though, over $300. It's very nice to have the guitar static in place though, completely off of your body.
I believe Leona Boyd or someone of her eminence uses this too. Guitars can be hard on the body.
Thanks!
Thank you!!!
14:39 i almost thought he said "take advantage of these *Klingon* stabilizers " but it was " *cling-on* " lol
Classical guitars used to have stap buttons in the 70ies. My first guitar which I still possess has one.
You are a very good teacher and the way you explain is amazing. God bless you 🙏 Love from India
This is some really useful advice for me that actually comes in handy right now. I've been playing the guitar for over 6 years now, but haven't started playing classical guitar up until a few months ago and a huge portion of the reasoning to start playing classical guitar was actually due to how fascinating I found this channel to be, over the past year or so. I remember watching the collaborations with Rob Scallon, never even having considered playing anything other than my Jazz Standards, Rock Tunes and Folk Songs, when I first came in touch with these instruments and now I have completely fallen in love with the classical guitar and its brothers and sisters, aswell as with the music that's been composed for them. Thank you for your time and effort! I might've never bought a classical guitar and started enjoying music that people have been enjoying for the past 800 years, if it wasn't for this channel :)
I switch between the Ergoplay Troster, a foot stool and just slumping on the couch with crossed legs. The footstool sometimes leads to a tweaked back. I'm kind of tall so the ErgoPlay is my choice. I think the chair also is important and I have had trouble finding the right perch. I recently got an Adjustrite musician's chair (treated myself for my birthday) and it is great. Kind of expensive, but with the chair and my ErgoPlay I can be comfortable and relaxed.
the longer ribbon recommendation gave me the idea to repurpose the guitar strap I was using.
i pulled the strap to the longest length and it works great for tucking.
I do have SageWork umbra magnets in one of my acoustics but must confess I tend not to use the support much even though it does help maintain “good positioning”. I guess I just find it all a bit off-putting having something attached to my instrument like that - all a bit too contrived really and the attachment process detracts from the joy of just picking up the guitar and playing when one fancies it! Totally appreciate that any serious player or professional wouldnt have that feeling!!
I actually thought up of using a strap with mine super recently! I have an electric acoustic classical with the button already installed. I looped a bit of stretch band with a guitar strap, I didn't expect it to work. I was really surprised with how well it keeps the guitar solidly in position. That's extremely funny seeing that in this video. Recommend for anybody who doesn't any cash to shell out for a gitano for sure
Although I don’t yet play classical guitar, I think the Guitarlift might be my personal favorite of the bunch. Easy to use, doesn’t look too out of place on stage, and there’s almost no risk of the guitar slipping away from the player.
Thank you for your video, it was very helpful!
I actually play sitting on the floor, with my left leg as a support. Feels way more comfortable than on a char with a footstool.
Might try the acrylic support though; I liked how it seemed to be way easier to use then the other leg supports.
i also do that but it actually depends on what im going to play. if i want to FOCUS AND REALLY STUDY i use a chair+footstool but if i just want to vibe alone with my guitar playing stuff just because i want, more freely and confortable then i sit on the floor
I just had the strap pin installed on mine and I really like it....
Thank you...this was very helpful 😀
I never thought holding a guitar would be such an interesting topic.But it is
There is also the Sageworks umbra support. It is a bit of a thing to initially mount on your instrument because it requires you mount magnets inside the body, but once its set up its super easy to pop on and off, its super adjustable and no worries of a suction cup failure. My favorite!
I started on a Troster and it was great, but it slipped on my leg constantly. I 3d printed a seat strap thingie, and that worked great. Six months ago, I tried a Guitarlift, and my Troster is now gathering dust. :-)
Great video!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and guitar wisdom!!
Yay, straps are okay! I had to get one. I'm learning now and having it on my lap kills my left knuckles. The strap hugs it close to me, and holds it in the same position so I can learn my muscles where to sit and play.
I kind of damaged my guitar with vast humidity changes cross country, so using a soundhole strap was right out. I didn't want to abuse the edge of the wood. So I got a cincher that goes behind the nut, down to the button-peg. I'm glad it had a lil button down there, I refuse to drill a hole in it x_x
You're truly a kind soul, Brandon.
Ek Onka, brother :3
Thank you Brandon! You are a great and true leader! I get a lot of ispiration!
I had the same experience as you with a foot stool in college because of how long my torso is. They seem to work really well for shorter players. An option I saw a lot of tall players go for was a foot stool and a guitar pillow so they could put the foot stool on the lowest setting. I prefer a support but I used the stool and pillow for a year and it was definitely easier on my back.
I settled on the strap some time back as the most convenient and least painful solution _for me,_ and never mind orthodoxy.
OK, actually there was often a little voice in my head snarling "Blasphemer!" It's so nice to see a legitimate classical player acknowledge the strap as a legitimate option. Pretty sure you just made my day. ;)
I completely agree.
I've been playing with a strap the last couple of years (the left, fret hand end of the strap attached at the body, not the nut) for two reasons: 1) Better posture for singing, and 2) A "have guitar, will travel" appearance. After having some difficulties I've learned that how the guitar is positioned on the body makes a huge difference. Glad there are others out there like me!
@@MrJohnBurger-JB I’ve been told that attaching a strap at the nut puts an undesirable strain on the guitar where the neck attaches to the body. Ergo, attaching it to the body of the instrument is preferable. A luthier told me that, but I don’t actually know if that’s fact or just his opinion. Perhaps that’s only true for playing standing up?
That GuitarLift thing is absolutely ingenious. Its tagline should be, "Just Lean Into It!"
I have silicone oven liner which I place on my thigh which stops my ukulele from escaping, keeps it in place, looks a bit strange because it is bright red and spikey and feels very comfortable😁
Very helpful and thank you vey much!
I’ve learned more about classical guitar from this channel than any other channel. I’m thinking I’ll be ordering a guitar lift, because the footstool just isn’t working out. Other professional guitarist such as Beatrix also recommends the same lift. Two professional guitarists can’t be wrong.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought the foot stool was just not it. I've never been able to find a configuration with it where the guitar doesn't feel like it will slip out at any moment if I lift my right arm. It has been the only device I have used, so I am looking forward to trying some other options!
I have a small/medium sized guitar body and I'm able to simply sit cross legged, or with my legs crossed, and get the guitar neck at the perfect angle with both wrists/hands free to move, by supporting the guitar with my leg and strumming forearm. It turned out to be very nice for sitting at the computer for easy access to sheet music, and because of it I'm glad I bought a smaller guitar, and will definitely keep it around once I upgrade to a real one 😁
My solution: I have simply hired a minstrel to play for me! :) You make wonderful music my friend.
Dude i have a lot of troubles with the footstool and i have to use that 'cause college requires me to play in that classical posture, I'm definitely gonna try the strap option, thank u so much, this is what i needed!
Shelf liner is typically vinyl, and vinyl is known to react with a nitro finish (as it did with my guitar). Beware.
Yes, I experienced the same, it's getting sticky and leaves ugly traces
Thank you so much for making this! (sorry for the long comment 😶)
I'm always met with the fieriest arguments when I mention accessibility in the arts. Anything that makes it so that more people can participate and express themselves and CREATE things is very important!
I will never forgive the purists who do their utmost to tear down supportive devices and other tools because it's "Not traditional" or "Not standard". When I was young and struggled with certain barriers, I was shot down from learning one of my favourite instruments because my teacher told me, "If you can't [do this], you shouldn't be in music."
Art is art no matter how you do it! Do whatever you need to do to make it work for you! Use whatever is at your disposable to help you be comfortable!
Thanks a lot!
The footstool does not really work for me as I have inflammatory bowel disease and having my leg up like this for longer periods just causes discomfort. The strap option definitely is a great option and really something I will try out!
Thank you for your lovely explanatory videos. Your videos have helped me a lot with the guitar.
A Footstool gives me a back ache. I use pillows to prop to the guitar up but that's also irritating, my left foot always ends up tip toeing and the leg ends up sweating. I have to get the guitar lift. I think that's there best option. Thanks again!
Thanks for sharing!
I had the foot stool and have to agree that it’s not always comfortable using it sometimes feels awkward depending on the object i’m sitting on (chair, sofa etc.).
I like to try the clear plastic device with the suction cup.
As a tall guy (6”4) I used to insist I needed a combination of supports to get the guitar to a good height, for a couple of years I settled on the magnetic knee support (the Atlas) plus a short footstool, but my problem with it (anyone that tried my guitar immediately noticed), was the slightest extra pressure into the guitar for extra support would collapse the support and risk falling off. The last few years I’ve settled back on a traditional footstool at full height, and made sure I get a chair that isn’t too high (a tall chair diminishes the relative height of the foot stool). Over the years my flexibility has improved and gotten more used to the footstool position and I feel it’s the most stable stance if you can make it suit you!
Id personally recommend a strap for someone with your body type. Its nice because then the height of the chair doesn't matter and you don't have to carry around extra gizmos. But if you found something you like, that's great!
I never actually played a classical guitar but I try to do my best in positioning myself to be more comfortable when playing any guitar.
Im going to go for the strap! Thanks for this video, mr. Acker!
Worked like a charm! I cant believe ive never realized that just a simple ribbon does the trick -i am extremely pleased! Thanks again!!
A TH-cam tip I have just discovered: put timecodes in the video description so people can quickly find the section they are interested in. This would be great for reviews like this one or where you have a long introduction before playing a piece or where you showcase different instruments. A quick Google search will show up lots of advice on this.
Ah yes thanks! I've done this in the past but forgot. Much appreciated
@@brandonacker I also appreciate chapter timestampts a lot! Right now they're not working, though. You have to add one at 0:00 for TH-cam to recognize them & add them to the video.
Anyway, thanks for the very informative video!
@@brandonacker
00:00 - Arpeggiato
00:19 - Intro
00:59 - General considerations
02:04 - Using a table
02:58 - Straps
06:16 - Footstools
08:02 - Ergoplay
11:07 - Woodside
13:33 - Grippers
15:12 - Guitarlift
17:11 - Conclusion
I have added "General considerations" at 59s after the (indeed beautiful) intro animation, but that was just an idea. I have also shifted some a second back, as I suspect the chapter thumbnail might be wrong otherwise? (Not sure, though.) I hope that helps!
@@brandonacker do you think that the support that goes on the back is stopping the wood from resonating?
Wow, what a super video!
Sagework lifts are much like the Ergoplay, but use magnets (which do not inhibit the sound) and therefore you don't have to worry about the suction cup issue. I have one for classical and one for flamenco (which I haven't quite gotten the adjustment I want, but that's another story!).
Been using a footstool for years or just crossing the legs like the flamenco players. The strap is a fantastic idea. Thanks.
Since late 2018, I have been using the "Gewa Gitano Guitar Rest" which (similar to the Ergoplay) uses 3 suction cups to attach to the guitar. The difference is that this small device folds flat against side of the guitar when not in use (while the guitar is in the case, for example). It's so convenient to not have to constantly put it on and off the guitar, not to mention it's always in the right place. I just leave it on all the time. It, of course, has the disadvantage that (in theory) the suction cups can come loose. That's only happened a couple of times in the 3+ years that I've had it and I'm still using the original cups! My trick it to soak the cups in my bathroom sink in hot water from the tap as I am changing my strings on the guitar. This seems to keep the cups soft and pliable. The replacement cups are a bit pricey, so I've always stuck with these originals. They still seem to be going strong. The other disadvantage is that (other than a bit of latitude on where exactly to place the device on the side of the guitar), it is not adjustable. I'm lucky in that it seems to hold the guitar at exactly the right height and angle for me... but your mileage may vary. It might not present the ideal position for "long bodied" guys like Brandon. If it does fit, however, you can't beat the convenience of this holder, however. (You can find it on Amazon for about $40.)
I too use this "Gewa Gitano" device and love it! Like any suction cup device, it might not work well on guitars with "a French finish" as (I am told) this finish can "breathe" and will cause the cups to let go. As Brandon says, however, one can use that static piece of plastic sheeting under the cups, however.
There is also a foldable guitar support on the clamps called HBLight guitar support. Of course, it won't work for everyone, but worth for checking.
Great tips! So enjoyable videos and info! Thanks
Hi Brandon, love the video it was informative. I was looking for a guitar support for my classical and came across the NeckUp support. It doesn't have the adjustability or the height reach of the suction cup based supports you have demoed, bit it is portable made of leather (with a plactic stiffening insert) and fits conveniently in any guitar case. Keep up the good work.
Over the years I've used both footrests and various apoyos but I actually find just sitting on a low enough seat works really fine for me. I get a good tilt and also the lower bout kind of sits against my right calf restraining the guitar from slipping to the right. The instrument feels really secure and my arms and torso are completely free.
You made some great points I never even considered. Thank you.
The guitar lift is laser cut acrylic... I am sure there is a cutout pattern that can be lasered into the sheet that would remove the bulk of the weight without sacrificing much of the rigidity. I am also sure they have probably already thought of that... I wonder why they did not do it? Seems like a reasonably easy win.
Until the end of the video,I thought the suction cups on the guitar lift were on long strips of acrylic; that it was shaped like a U. I was actually thinking about that after watching the video, that it would be cool to make one that way, or, of course,as you suggest, the middle could be cut.
Thank you for an informative video. I'm sold on the strap and am going to install buttons. I've installed them on several guitars and ukuleles, so I feel confident in doing this to my classical. Like you, I don't feel comfortable with the foot stool.
I've been looking for a lot of videos about how to use the ribbon strap for my baroque guitar! Thank you hahaha
I'm glad it helped!
Great advice and suggestions. You have a glorious presentation style.
I've tried all sorts of methods and still come back to the footstool. Having the guitar contact directly with the thigh seems the best for me. I've actually made a solid wood stool that doesn't rock over.