One correction: New Hyrule from Spirit Tracks is NOT the same as the flooded Hyrule but now unflooded, it's an entirely new continent they stumble upon which explains the lore of the Lokomo and the Malladus trapped in the Spirit Tower
@@kenji6492 youre explicitly told in phantom hourglass that they discovered a new continent but beyond that yeah you infer it if you only played spirit tracks and wind waker
If we want to nitpick, I’d argue that the fact that the locations are split into thirds (due to the timeline split) that places in separate timelines are tough calls.
I have to mention something in particular, if a location shows up in Zelda 1, it is in Zelda 2, since the Zelda 1 map is also in the Zelda 2 overworld (though significantly smaller)
Because of Echoes of Wisdom it’s now “canon” that a Link to the Pasts “Dessert of Mystery” is part of/flows over in Gerudo Dessert I think. The Gerudo just weren’t “discovered” yet and the map didn’t continue far enough.
@@n1nj4l1nk You're gonna feel dumb when you realize how hard you've missed the point. The point is, the desert of mystery did not have gerudo in it, so you could only headcanon that it was the same place. But now that it is, that just means... the only reason gerudo weren't in it, is because they weren't created until Ocarina. Like they aren't just a one-off thing added to the mythos, they were now, retroactively, there.
It's implied that the Gerudo are kicked out of Hyrule after the imprisoning war. And it isn't until centuries later and Ganon being long forgotten until they return.
Isn't Dragonroost island technically Death Mountain, I can see an argument that it's no longer Death Mountain, but I feel it should have been mentioned.
Was going to post the same. So that everyone is on the same page: It is a volcanic island, probably the tallest natural landmass in the game world, and consistent with other games its geographic position is to the north east relative to Hyrule Castle and the Temple of Time. I do not remember if it is confirmed anywhere in The Wind Waker whether the bomb flower is native to Dragonroost but I doubt that their abundance is a coincidence. A bit more tentative link is that all 3 wandering goron traders in The Wind Waker express that they have a good friendship with the postman and that they make frequent use of postal services, and of course Dragonroost is where the postal service is headquartered. A throwaway tease from the writers perhaps, but also maybe nothing.
Agreed. Personally I think it's the most obvious "maybe" answer. Like, clearly it isn't called Death Mountain so it's not an obvious call out.. but a volcanic mountain, with a fire dragon and a whole pile of bomb flowers? Ringing any bells? Sure, Volvagia is only actually IN one game but it's iconic enough to warrant a mention here
At some point, Eldin Volcano became Death Mountain after what I assume was a volcanic eruption so fierce, it’s pretty much Hyrule’s equivalent to Pompeii… So much death and destruction… it’s what probably wiped out the Mogmas to extinction… When this happened was probably when the Era of Chaos occurred sometime after Skyward Sword… Though whether or not it was a natural disaster or a magic catastrophe remains unknown…
@geschnitztekiste4111 That was the very first question that came into mind when I heard the name for the first time since Skyward Sword. Why go back calling it Eldin Volcano when it was solidified as Death Mountain? The Answer… The devs gave up trying to make the established lore relevant and for the sake of storytelling decided to stray from that. Also, to make the plot point of the “Prime Energy” being associated with the 3 regions relevant… EOW could be a reality of Hyrule where Null exists, people have no memory of Ganon (who he was nor his actions in ALTTP and such…), and the aforementioned eruption I mentioned… But then again, where are the Mogmas? Why call the Triforce the “Prime Energy”? The Triforce was known by its true name since Hylia first ruled the surface. (In Twilight Princess’s case, the individual crests were never called the Triforce; justified because the 3 pieces never reunite this time around…) With these questions in mind… I just no longer care. I’m staying true to what was previously written before the lore was shifted in multiverses.
@TomMooreT2S I don't see what the Mogmas have to do with it lol. They just don't exist anymore, or they're somewhere else. It's been a wee chunk of time - the Mogmas don't have to live on Eldin Volcano anymore
@ His headcanon explains why Death Mountain would be called that, if the Mogmas are gone and it’s still Eldin Volcano, his theory about that wouldn’t hold up
I'd argue Death Mountain and Eldin Volcano are the same place, due to the fact that whenever we see regions of Hyrule labeled "Eldin," it ALWAYS features a volcano, and that volcano is usually called Death Mountain. Also, it appears in Wind Waker under "Dragon Roost Island," as it is literally supposed to be the summit following the great flood
I feel like the field areas in Link to the Past, a Link Between Worlds, and Minish Cap should count as Hyrule Fields. They're not explicitly called like that because they're less of a single area, and more like an overworld that stretches over many screens and therefore isn't given an explicit name. It's still the large field area around central Hyrule though, so I'd still consider those appearances of Hyrule Field. Also, you walk through Hyrule Field briefly near the very very end of Wind Waker. If Lost Woods counts as appearing in Majora's Mask, then I think Hyrule Field should count as appearing in Wind Waker. That bumps Hyrule Field's appearances up to 10, which gets it close to the podium.
Twilight princess establishes death mountain is in Eldin, so I think its pretty clear its the same place as Eldin Volcano in SS and EoW Thats different from Lanayru desert as Gerudo desert is not established as being in Lanayru, rather Lanayru is commonly used as being associated with the zoras
Also, Eternal forest is in the same place on the map as lost woods is in LTTP That said, death mountain is in the same place in LTTP as Hebra Mountain is in EoW, which complicates my point above
In ocarina of time the great fairy of wisdom is found in the Gerudo desert and in skyward sword the Gerudo dragonfly is found in the Lanayru desert. So it is definitely implied that the two places are the same
BotW and TotK feature both Hebra Mountains and Death Mountain on the same map at opposite corners, so personally I'd be hesitant to count them as the same place in EoW.
Hebra Mountain may have formed volcanically and been called Death Mountain while it was active. Volcanic hotspots tend to move over long periods. Since Death Mountain is the name of the Hyrulean active volcano, when the geologic hotspot moves, so does the name. So I think it's plausible for EoW to have both locations be the same as long as it takes place a very long time apart from BotW.
@@mooredmon7898 TOTK Death Mountain cooling off definitely shows that. And the Hebra Region itself has several volcanic hot springs underneath it so they could flip flop every millennia or two.
I've read somewhere that in Japanese ALTTP has both Hebra and Death Mountain, with the Light World one being called Hebra and its Dark World version being called Death Mountain. Personally I'd include any "Eldin volcano" in Death Mountain, even Skyward Sword's. I wouldn't give Hyrule Castle a full point each for the Oracle games, but I might give them half a point. Thanks for the info on the Desert of Doubt, I was unaware of it.
I also feel that if you count locations in New Hyrule (a completely different continent), the you gotta count other continents without the Hyrule name, since Hyrule and all it's locations are the the bottom the sea in the adult timeline.
But do we count the Mysterious Woods from Link's Awakening then since you can get lost before using the magic dust on Tarin? And does Majora's Mask get a second point for having "The Woods of Mystery" which function the same way?
Spirit Tracks further complicates everything because it's not the unflooded Hyrule, it's a land Link and the Pirates found and established a new kingdom on. But, it has locations from old Hyrule (such as The Lost Woods) which brings with it a few questions? 1: how many times HAS Hyrule moved. 2: if the locations move around, does that indicate movement of the kingdom? 3: if the Kingdom moves and a new location takes on the name of a location from the old kingdom, is it the same location? For example, the Lost Woods is in the south-eastern part of the Zelda 1 map and the Zelda 1 map appears to exist in the southern region of the Zelda 2 map. However, A Link to the Past, a Prequel to Zelda 1 and 2 has the Lost Woods in the North-eastern portion of the map, not far from the Castle which exists in neither Zelda or Zelda 2. Can this Lost Woods be counted as the same location as the Lost Woods in Zelda 1? And if not, can we really call the Spirit Tracks Lost Woods the same location as the other Lost woods(plural)? Or, could it be possible that the Lost Woods itself is a transitional space, moving around to protect areas as the Godesses requires: be it the Kokiri, Koroks, Master Sword, or Triforce. This could, of course, be an explanation for the Lost Woods in Holodrum as well which is a location protecting both the Noble Sword and one of the essences.
I was thinking the same about the Lost Woods. Maybe it’s not a “fixed” place, but a sort of magic/protection from the gods or the Deku Tree, that can be placed on a specific location depending on where a Deku Tree resides or the mastersword/triforce needs protection. So then it might not be the same location, but a different location that has the same protecting elements and/or name.
ehhhh that whole thing was A) stupid, B) contradicting everything from the game it follows from except the inexplicably ridiculous ending, and C) easily handwaved. The whole world is unflooding, this is just something they did not realize is PART Of hyrule Or otherwise we just ignore it, brush it under the rug, and say nothing else ever took place there again.
@@KairuHakubiI think there is plenty that could still take place on the Great Sea, I'm a little sad we haven't had a re-visit tbh. But as for New Hyrule not being Hyrule, there's plenty of reason it works. Link and the Pirates set out to find this new land, I doubt the Great Sea that had lasted for centuries would dry up in the lifetime of one boy, the land had its own deep lore with not connected to Ganon or the Kingdom when they arrived, and the Kingdom was established by Tetra (probably named Hyrule in honor of King Daphnes).
@dennis141187 There are definately elements of Zelda that contradict that reading, for example: in A Link to the Past the Lost Woods has none of the elements we've come to expect from the rest of the series despite sharing the name. But Zelda retcons itself pretty regularly. Early Zelda lore is a different beast entirely than modern lore.
@@jonesthemoblin1400 I mean.. it should have receded within a few months. and on top of that, several factions were working on it. the korogs were planting trees hoping their root system would form together into proper land again.. I'm all for villains that aren't ganon, i'm just saying.. many times before we've thought "new land" and it's just a new part of hyrule.
I feel that if you count locations in New Hyrule (a completely different continent), the you gotta count other continents without the Hyrule name, since Hyrule and all it's locations are the the bottom the sea in the adult timeline.
@7:39 I think the Holodrum Lost Woods in Oracle of Seasons should count. The title of the video asks which location is most common in the Zelda SERIES, not which appears in the most incarnations of Hyrule. Especially as you did count the Spirit Tracks Lost Woods, even though New Hyrule is an entirely different place to “old” Hyrule which got flooded. New Hyrule is only named after it because Tetra founded it after she learnt about Hyrule and her connection to it. It could just as easily been named Tetratopia if Tetra had discovered it before she learnt about Hyrule instead.
I was wondering if Hyrule Town in Echoes of Wisdom might have been the old Kakariko village as in a link to the past, as it has the same bird statue. That due to the kingdom growing, the old village was taken up by the castle. And the villagers moved to a new place near the mountain.
Parappa and Tantari Deserts from Zelda 2 become more ambiguious because the insect enemy that shows up there also shows up in ALttP in the Desert of Mystery's dungeon. It's name? Geldarm. Or in katakana, ゲルドアーム, Gerudoarm. Similarily, the sandman enemies in the Desert of Mystery, the Geldmen, in Japanese are called ゲルドマン, Gerudoman and because the Gerudo Script of a cipher of the English alphabet, the 1997 maps we got from the Overdump cartridge has the following text in the Gerudos' unused tents in the valley: "GELD, PEOPLE OF THE SAND". Apparently, Geld was meant to be the proper romanization of ゲルド but quite frankly, Gerudo rolls off the tongue better.
As spectacle rock appears in Wind Waker as Spectacle Island, and Spectacle Rock is -part- of the Death Mountain range, one could argue that would count for a point.
Lanayru desert can be considered the gerudo desert due to a line in totk where they talk about the gerudo desert once being an ancient sea. Low and behold lanayru desert fits the bill. It also shows the migration of zora from what used to be the ancient sea to the new lanayru providence and suggests an evolution from salt sea to river water Zora. The non friendly zoras we see in echoes might be the only type of zoras that might have existed before the war against Demise.
My prediction is that either Death Mountain or Lost Woods are going to be the most recurring places. But I count the Eldin named highest peak as Death Mountain as well. Mainly because that happened IRL chronologically as a trend. Like they stopped calling the Mountain Death Mountain and switched to a lighter name. I think it's to keep the younger rating applicable to their games more than anything. Death Mountain has been in pretty much every Zelda title I've ever played. And while I haven't played them all I have played a bunch of them. Also the name Death Mountain seems to transcend Hyrule. Pretty sure the Oracle games had that name for a Mountain as well. Possibly in each game which were set in 2 very different places. But I can't remember all the locations in those two titles as I haven't played them fully in probably over 15 years. Which made me excited when I saw them pop onto the Nintendo game boy streaming thing. Very awesome. Been trying to get back to them. Anyway Lost Woods is my other contender because it has also basically been in every Zelda I've played in one way or another. Some wooded area where you have to follow some weird path or get tossed out for "being lost". So most of them being named Lost Woods makes them count as basically the same place. At least in my book. Aside from that the only other place that has technically appeared in the most games is probably Hyrule Castle. But it's rarely the same castle. And since that's a structure and not a region it's hard to give it the same leeway as the other 2 I mentioned. Not same castle shouldn't count as same place. Regions are a little more vague in how you can categorize them.
My guesses going in to this were very accurate. My contenders were Death Mountain, Lake Hylia and Hyrule Castle. I honestly thought it would be Death Mountain though.
You can add 1 for Death Mountain, 1 for Kakariko Village and 1 for Lost Woods, since they appear in Wind Waker, but due to massive changes they got changed so much. and names too. You've considered the Desert from ALTTP to be the Gerudo one, so Wind Waker then is all around Ocarina as well Dragon roost island have a dozen of hints that it's actually a death mountain, yet it is subtle - leftover of a previous civilization of Goron before leaving, Crater of the volcano have the music very similiar to that in Dodongo's cavern, there is a fairy fountain pretty close on and it is located in the same spot in relation to sunken Hyrule Castle in the middle and Forest Haven. Now about Forest Haven, there is even more of those hints that it once was Kokiri Forest and Lost Woods with Deku Tree still being there and some buildings in the forbidden part being Kokiri leftovers. But where Kakariko fits in this? Well, there is Windfall Island, it is not just spiritual successor there is pretty much a lot of hints like the windmill and a stone specifically behind it. While Wind Waker's map is VERY HUGE in proportions do note that desert and lake hylia are out of consideration so it is a closed view of that part of Hyrule.
Technically, Kakariko Village also appears in Twilight Princess, but it is inhabited, same with the Gerudo Dessert, which is canonically the same as Ocarina, but the Gerudo had abandoned it
Lake Hylia in The Adventure Of Link is also a point for The Hyrule Fantasy because of its location in both games. It's stated in _Encyclopedia_ that the island location of Level-1 (Eagle) is on Lake Hylia.
While hylian geography is seldom consistent, there are a few general consistencies. Hyrule Castle is almost always in the center of the map. Lake Hylia is usually in the South. Death Mountain/the local volcano is in the North. The desert region is in the southwest. Of course, these are the broader general areas, and while they do move around a little, they are almost always found at these compass points.
My guess was Death Moutain, since along with every other locale, there as has always been a mountainous area of sorts in series since the very beginning.
Technically Hyrule field does not appear in Zelda one but does appear in Zelda 2, as the entirety of the first game takes place in death mountain. That's why death mountain in the second game is just a scaled down map of the original. The biggest problem with the maps though is that Nintendo doesn't care about the timeline, fans do. Nintendo prioritizes gameplay over story, and never intended for there to be a cohesive timeline as that would restrict their ability to make fun games if they had to worry about it falling neatly in line with other games. Miyamoto himself said that they saw it as 2 games in the same "world" then a complete reset. The timeline was an afterthought that started between TP and SS as a result of fan demand, and was released alongside the latter. I think spiritual successors should count for that reason. I don't hate the timeline but I also don't think it should be held in such high regard, especially since Nintendo has repeatedly said that they make the game without considering the timeline and then just shove it where it makes the most sense. The whole thing makes way more sense if you consider all the games as pairs then a completely different timeline/dimension or whatever else you want to call it anyway which is what Miyamoto said they did in house before they caved and made the timelines. Good video though.
Windfall Island should count for Kakariko Village imo because of the giant windmill and the references to one of the residents being a descendant of the Sheikah
Eldin Mountain from Skyward Sword is very clearly Death Mountain though. In BotW and TotK the area Death Mountain resides in is literally called the Eldin region. Lanaryu Desert on the other hand most likely turned into Zora's domain in the other games, which is why it wouldn't be included in Gerudo desert section.
On a related noted, Spectacle Rock was always a geographic feature of Death Mountain, except for Breath and Tears, where they decided to place it next to the desert, in the opposite corner of the world. That threw me for a loop, that's for sure.
There’s an obvious missing link here that, while it doesn’t change the outcome, is important to remember: TP Sacred Grove. Why do I throw it up? Let’s see… Winding, confusing paths meant to ward out anyone who doesn’t know where to go… Saria’s Song playing in the background… the Skull Kid directly playing Saria’s Song on his Trumpet with him finding TP Link fun… Located in Faron Woods… In literally every regard, this is the Lost Woods. Not subtly, no very directly. While it now leads to the ruined Temple of Time instead of some talking tree, the comparison is beyond uncanny. Likewise with TP being a sequel to OoT to the degree that the Hero’s Shade is directly OoT Link, yeah no such a direct comparison with even the Skull Kid lining up cannot be ignored. It counts as an extra Lost Woods point.
The parts of the overworld that aren't the lost woods, central lake, coast, desert, or death mountain It should also be counted in Zelda II because the game literally takes place in the fields of Hyrule.
That's the first question I had about this video too. Does the map that came with Zelda 1 call a specific area "Hyrule Field"? I don't remember there being a Hyrule Field until it was introduced in Ocarina of Time. Sure, you can go back and say "the place where you start the game is in Hyrule Field," but that's not the same as places like the Lost Woods, Death Mountain, and Spectacle Rock that were given those names in the material included with the original game.
There are certain areas that I wish would return that haven’t despite having the perfect opportunity to. I wish Southorn Village in Echoes was Ordon. I think it would’ve been a perfect callback and location wise it’s in a near perfect spot. Plus it’s fitting if that’s Link’s home.
There's no master sword in OoS lost woods... That's the "Noble Sword". In the Oracles titles the only way to obtain "The Master Sword" is by completing a series of cryptic events involving both versions of the game.
Kakariko is also in Twilight Princess and Echoes of Wisdom. If you wanna be generous, include Hidden Village in there too since it was historically an old Kakariko Village. +3 for Kakariko
Interesting bit about Hebra Mountain and Death Mountain. A Link to the Past's Light World doesn't have Death Mountain. That explains why Echoes of Wisdom has Eldin Volcano, Hebra Mountain, and Mount Lanayru, but none of them are called "Death Mountain" Interesting coincidence, Death Mountain is only in games which feature Ganon as the main villain.
I feel like Eldin Volcano could count as Death Mountain because BOTW refers to the region the mountain is located in is called Eldin so presumably Eldin is just Death Mountain just that it's named after the region and not the fact people die there or something. Honestly I think it's only called that cause you don't have anything else to call it as opposed to Gerudo desert which were named after it's inhabitants who haven't been there yet. It's a name change as opposed to something actively changing about the location. Though in that case Lake Floria would count as Lake Hylia as it was probably renamed after Hyrule's founding cause it's kinda weird it wasn't already or something :P Also while it doesn't matter the Forbidden Forest and the sanctuary is supposed to be the kokiri Forest/loost woods. Debatable for Dragonroost being Death Mountain cause apparently that's Zora's Domain for some reason or something
Wind Waker should get points for not only Hyrule Castle and Lake Hylia, but also Lost Woods/Kokiri Forest (Forbidden Woods), Death Mountain (Dragon Roost Isle), and Kakariko Village (Windfall Island, complete with windmill and graveyard from Ocarina of Time). (ETA: Also Spectacle Rock / Spectacle Isles, which is curiously not on your list.)
I regard the Eternal Forest as the Lost Woods. EoW is lit a sequel to aLttP and aLBW and it's at the same location as the Lost Woods in aLttP. They also changed the name of the Triforce but I am prettty sure we all still call it the Triforce.
btw. breath of the wild came simultanously to the wiiU. Not sure if it make it not original to the switch or yes. like technically it's a port by the fact that it was originaly developed for the WiiU, but that's not exactly how we use the word.
For Lost Woods Echoes of Wisdom obviously counts because its the same location as the other LTTP adjacent games. However, if you're only counting the locations that exist in Hyrule, then Spirit Tracks is debatable. Its clearly not the same Hyrule, its literally NEW Hyrule. However, you could argue its still the "Lost Woods" in Hyrule. If you're just going by locations called the Lost Woods, then I say count all of them. The Eternal Forest is obviously the same location as LTTP/LBW Lost Woods, so it just had a name change at some point but its still the Lost Woods. Wind Waker is a very questionable one. Forest Haven is clearly intended to be the future version of the Lost Woods, but it could be argued the ACTUAL Lost Woods were buried under the sea and are gone now. So this one I think could be left out. In addition, the Sacred Grove from Twilight Princess should also count as the Lost Woods. Add in Spirit Tracks and the Oracle games for having the same name, and Majora's Mask for having the same location.
I think if lost woods from spirit tracks count, than the one from seasons should too. They’re both locations call the lost woods with lost woods properties, but are both not on the original hyrule.
i think its worth noting that the fire island in wind waker is most likely the peak of death mountain that or dragon roost i don't know which but definitely one of them
I'm questioning why we count things like the Lost woods in ocarina of Time and Majora's mask as two separate appearances even though it's the exact same locale. But we count Hyrule Castle separately for each game even though they're often entirely different buildings and areas. Not that I disagree, just adding to the conversation.
I feel like Eldin volcano should have been counted since, historically, the surface from Skyward Sword is just the first version of Hyrule. With that evidence, it is also true that Eldin Volcano goes on to be Death Mountain, regardless of the name change. And I feel like there's an issue here too, cause you counted stuff from Spirit Tracks, despite it taking place hundreds of years after Wind Waker, and on an entirely New Hyrule, not being the same one from Wind Waker. Overall, you can't really do this whole thing based off of just stuff like shared names.
Before watching the video, I'm going to guess that it's Spectacle Rock because that was in the original and has been referenced many times since. Other guesses that come to mind are Hyrule Castle and Death Mountain, but I can think of a couple of early Zelda games that neither of those are in. EDIT: Well, I was close, but it's not even mentioned in your video! I looked it up, and Spectacle Rock appears in some form in 8 Zelda games: LoZ, AoL, ALttP, OoT, FSA, ALBW, BotW, and TotK.
I definitely think Lost Woods should count in Majora, it's certainly in the intro, and I agree to count the Oracles version. I disagree on the Eternal Forest in Echoes, but we might as well count the Sacred Grove in Twilight since it's practically one specific area of the greater Lost Woods just as the Sacred Forest Meadow from Ocarina is in the Lost Woods. debatably we might even count the Royal Valley in Minish for having the same function as the Lost Woods but that's a stretch. is Eldin Volcano just an old name for what would later be called Death Mountain? does Mt Crenel also fit this bill? important questions
Think the Eternal Forest is the same Trees, but not the same Woods. Hard to explain this argument for sure, but think things are just too far removed by time in Echoes, to make them related by anything besides blood or DNA.
But Spirit Tracks New Hyrule IS in a different landmass, remember that Hyrule as we know it is flooded; in that case I think skyward sword gerudo dessert and death mountain should count but Spirit Tracks point (maybe only Hyrule castle) should be dismissed.
Isn't hyrule castle technically displayed in Majora's Mask in the flashback memory when he recalls how to play the song of time? I'm trying to remember if they're in the garden of the castle or if its a more blank setting. Someone refresh my memory!
I’m not sure how Hyrule Field is in Zelda 1. Death Mountain is the only named location, and I think it’s fair to assume one of the 2 lakes is Lake Hylia, but Hyrule Field I think is a bit of a stretch.
I think debating if each area is the exact same place is probably the wrong way to go about it. As given the similarities between the map of Echoes of Wisdom and ALttP for example one coukd easily make the connection that Mount Hebra in EoW is the same Mountain from ALttP/ALBW, same with the Lost Woods of ALttP and the Eternal Forest. I think it's probably easier to just count the names and whether or not theyre in Hyrule or not.
i would i said the lost woods, because i know there was no hyrule castle in the first zelda, while there is a forest maze area that i would count as the lost woods. for death mountain i was unsure, i didn't know it was the same as mt hebra in japanese
what's your source/methodology for named places in the first zelda game? I remember Death Mountain and the Lost Woods appearing by name in guides and instruction booklets but I don't remember the name "Hyrule Field" appearing by that name, and unlike Lake Hylia I'm having a hard time picking out what feature on the map from the first game fits as an obvious Hyrule Field. The map for that game is mostly mountains, forest, and shoreline. Is it the starting area that you're talking about? That's the least woodsy/hilly part of the map but it doesn't really feel like an obvious Hyrule Field precursor.
I was certain that the castle showed up less than Death Mt and Lost woods. I was surprised to find I was wrong. In my case I think of certain areas based off Ocaranna names; without actually knowing what they were called. As in all mts were death mt. All woods the lost woods... ie why I thought the castle showed up less. I will however question your judgement in case of the castle showing up in Link 2. What was Zeldas sleeping location; and each castle in that game named? Never really knew their actual names not the location name tacked on to them. For instance Desert Palace/Swamp Palace/Island Paace/Labrynth Palace/Ocean Palace/Southern Palace/Final Palace/Zeldas Bed Chambers Because currently that is how I name them by location. But like the city names I figured the Palaces and rest place had proper names in the lore... hence my question.
At 5:52 My bet is death mountain Edit. Not DM. At 10:49 for my last possible guess and I realized, is it just hyrule castle? Edit 2. Ok yeah that was right
I disagree about Eldin Volcano. It's obviously Death Mountain! What, you think one volcano is going to disappear and be replaced by another volcano within 10 to 20 thousand years? Doubtful.
Ok just before watching this, I wanna guess that it is either Death Mountain or Kakariko Village. Looking forward to being proven wrong lol Edit: idk how I forgot that was a location
One correction: New Hyrule from Spirit Tracks is NOT the same as the flooded Hyrule but now unflooded, it's an entirely new continent they stumble upon which explains the lore of the Lokomo and the Malladus trapped in the Spirit Tower
Yep
It’s not surprising that people don’t know this considering most people look at it like “Ew train Zelda” or something. Under appreciated gem.
Isn’t that why it’s called *new* Hyrule??
@@immagical7036*We* call it New Hyrule. I think in the game it’s ever only called “Hyrule” and you need to infer it’s a new location from context.
@@kenji6492 youre explicitly told in phantom hourglass that they discovered a new continent but beyond that yeah you infer it if you only played spirit tracks and wind waker
Kakariko was also featured in Twilight Princess… TWICE!
(Hidden Village - Old Kakariko)
It's assumable to be the ruins of OOT's Kakariko.
I love how he says places with the same names, but on separate CONTINENTS are tough calls
If we want to nitpick, I’d argue that the fact that the locations are split into thirds (due to the timeline split) that places in separate timelines are tough calls.
@@Just_Shaun 2 forsets on 2 continents is not the same as one forest in two timelines
@@djinnspalace2119he pinned a comment explaining during the video he thought new Hyrule was somehow Hyrule unflodded.
I have to mention something in particular, if a location shows up in Zelda 1, it is in Zelda 2, since the Zelda 1 map is also in the Zelda 2 overworld (though significantly smaller)
New Hyrule is a totally different place, so nothing from Spirit Tracks would count here.
Because of Echoes of Wisdom it’s now “canon” that a Link to the Pasts “Dessert of Mystery” is part of/flows over in Gerudo Dessert I think. The Gerudo just weren’t “discovered” yet and the map didn’t continue far enough.
You just gonna ignore Gerudo being in OoT?
They were discovered before ALttP, they just aren't important for that game.
@@n1nj4l1nk dennis was obviously talking real life chronology.
@@KairuHakubi why? OoT was made to be the prequel to ALttP. Talking about release order for something like this is stupid.
@@n1nj4l1nk You're gonna feel dumb when you realize how hard you've missed the point.
The point is, the desert of mystery did not have gerudo in it, so you could only headcanon that it was the same place. But now that it is, that just means... the only reason gerudo weren't in it, is because they weren't created until Ocarina. Like they aren't just a one-off thing added to the mythos, they were now, retroactively, there.
It's implied that the Gerudo are kicked out of Hyrule after the imprisoning war. And it isn't until centuries later and Ganon being long forgotten until they return.
Isn't Dragonroost island technically Death Mountain, I can see an argument that it's no longer Death Mountain, but I feel it should have been mentioned.
Was going to post the same. So that everyone is on the same page: It is a volcanic island, probably the tallest natural landmass in the game world, and consistent with other games its geographic position is to the north east relative to Hyrule Castle and the Temple of Time.
I do not remember if it is confirmed anywhere in The Wind Waker whether the bomb flower is native to Dragonroost but I doubt that their abundance is a coincidence.
A bit more tentative link is that all 3 wandering goron traders in The Wind Waker express that they have a good friendship with the postman and that they make frequent use of postal services, and of course Dragonroost is where the postal service is headquartered. A throwaway tease from the writers perhaps, but also maybe nothing.
Agreed.
Personally I think it's the most obvious "maybe" answer. Like, clearly it isn't called Death Mountain so it's not an obvious call out.. but a volcanic mountain, with a fire dragon and a whole pile of bomb flowers? Ringing any bells? Sure, Volvagia is only actually IN one game but it's iconic enough to warrant a mention here
At some point, Eldin Volcano became Death Mountain after what I assume was a volcanic eruption so fierce, it’s pretty much Hyrule’s equivalent to Pompeii… So much death and destruction… it’s what probably wiped out the Mogmas to extinction… When this happened was probably when the Era of Chaos occurred sometime after Skyward Sword… Though whether or not it was a natural disaster or a magic catastrophe remains unknown…
It also turned into Dragon Roost by Wind Waker.
So then why is it still called Eldin Volcano in EoW where the Mogmas are already gone and replaced by the Gorons
@geschnitztekiste4111
That was the very first question that came into mind when I heard the name for the first time since Skyward Sword.
Why go back calling it Eldin Volcano when it was solidified as Death Mountain?
The Answer…
The devs gave up trying to make the established lore relevant and for the sake of storytelling decided to stray from that. Also, to make the plot point of the “Prime Energy” being associated with the 3 regions relevant… EOW could be a reality of Hyrule where Null exists, people have no memory of Ganon (who he was nor his actions in ALTTP and such…), and the aforementioned eruption I mentioned… But then again, where are the Mogmas? Why call the Triforce the “Prime Energy”? The Triforce was known by its true name since Hylia first ruled the surface. (In Twilight Princess’s case, the individual crests were never called the Triforce; justified because the 3 pieces never reunite this time around…)
With these questions in mind… I just no longer care. I’m staying true to what was previously written before the lore was shifted in multiverses.
@TomMooreT2S I don't see what the Mogmas have to do with it lol. They just don't exist anymore, or they're somewhere else. It's been a wee chunk of time - the Mogmas don't have to live on Eldin Volcano anymore
@ His headcanon explains why Death Mountain would be called that, if the Mogmas are gone and it’s still Eldin Volcano, his theory about that wouldn’t hold up
I'm certain Spectacle Rock appears more often than any of these.
That's what I said at the beginning! Spectacle Rock is in the first 4 games, not sure how many more. But I figured Hyrule Castle would take first.
@@SageKasuto I only know it being in OOT and the Wild Games outside of those (didn't know it was in LA). Don't know about any others though
@@SageKasuto 5 by my count could be more but i dont remember
I'd argue Death Mountain and Eldin Volcano are the same place, due to the fact that whenever we see regions of Hyrule labeled "Eldin," it ALWAYS features a volcano, and that volcano is usually called Death Mountain. Also, it appears in Wind Waker under "Dragon Roost Island," as it is literally supposed to be the summit following the great flood
I was waiting for spectacle rock
I feel like the field areas in Link to the Past, a Link Between Worlds, and Minish Cap should count as Hyrule Fields. They're not explicitly called like that because they're less of a single area, and more like an overworld that stretches over many screens and therefore isn't given an explicit name. It's still the large field area around central Hyrule though, so I'd still consider those appearances of Hyrule Field.
Also, you walk through Hyrule Field briefly near the very very end of Wind Waker. If Lost Woods counts as appearing in Majora's Mask, then I think Hyrule Field should count as appearing in Wind Waker. That bumps Hyrule Field's appearances up to 10, which gets it close to the podium.
Twilight princess establishes death mountain is in Eldin, so I think its pretty clear its the same place as Eldin Volcano in SS and EoW
Thats different from Lanayru desert as Gerudo desert is not established as being in Lanayru, rather Lanayru is commonly used as being associated with the zoras
Also, Eternal forest is in the same place on the map as lost woods is in LTTP
That said, death mountain is in the same place in LTTP as Hebra Mountain is in EoW, which complicates my point above
In ocarina of time the great fairy of wisdom is found in the Gerudo desert and in skyward sword the Gerudo dragonfly is found in the Lanayru desert. So it is definitely implied that the two places are the same
BotW and TotK feature both Hebra Mountains and Death Mountain on the same map at opposite corners, so personally I'd be hesitant to count them as the same place in EoW.
Hebra Mountain may have formed volcanically and been called Death Mountain while it was active. Volcanic hotspots tend to move over long periods. Since Death Mountain is the name of the Hyrulean active volcano, when the geologic hotspot moves, so does the name. So I think it's plausible for EoW to have both locations be the same as long as it takes place a very long time apart from BotW.
@@mooredmon7898 TOTK Death Mountain cooling off definitely shows that. And the Hebra Region itself has several volcanic hot springs underneath it so they could flip flop every millennia or two.
I've read somewhere that in Japanese ALTTP has both Hebra and Death Mountain, with the Light World one being called Hebra and its Dark World version being called Death Mountain.
Personally I'd include any "Eldin volcano" in Death Mountain, even Skyward Sword's.
I wouldn't give Hyrule Castle a full point each for the Oracle games, but I might give them half a point.
Thanks for the info on the Desert of Doubt, I was unaware of it.
Eh. Oracle could count for Lost Woods since the place might not just be a normal forest and could very well exist in multiple places at once.
You do have the lost woods in the tarm ruins
I also feel that if you count locations in New Hyrule (a completely different continent), the you gotta count other continents without the Hyrule name, since Hyrule and all it's locations are the the bottom the sea in the adult timeline.
But do we count the Mysterious Woods from Link's Awakening then since you can get lost before using the magic dust on Tarin? And does Majora's Mask get a second point for having "The Woods of Mystery" which function the same way?
With Kakariko Village it’s been theorized that Windmill Isle is where Kakiriko village is located after Hyrule was flooded
Spirit Tracks further complicates everything because it's not the unflooded Hyrule, it's a land Link and the Pirates found and established a new kingdom on. But, it has locations from old Hyrule (such as The Lost Woods) which brings with it a few questions?
1: how many times HAS Hyrule moved.
2: if the locations move around, does that indicate movement of the kingdom?
3: if the Kingdom moves and a new location takes on the name of a location from the old kingdom, is it the same location?
For example, the Lost Woods is in the south-eastern part of the Zelda 1 map and the Zelda 1 map appears to exist in the southern region of the Zelda 2 map.
However, A Link to the Past, a Prequel to Zelda 1 and 2 has the Lost Woods in the North-eastern portion of the map, not far from the Castle which exists in neither Zelda or Zelda 2.
Can this Lost Woods be counted as the same location as the Lost Woods in Zelda 1? And if not, can we really call the Spirit Tracks Lost Woods the same location as the other Lost woods(plural)?
Or, could it be possible that the Lost Woods itself is a transitional space, moving around to protect areas as the Godesses requires: be it the Kokiri, Koroks, Master Sword, or Triforce.
This could, of course, be an explanation for the Lost Woods in Holodrum as well which is a location protecting both the Noble Sword and one of the essences.
I was thinking the same about the Lost Woods. Maybe it’s not a “fixed” place, but a sort of magic/protection from the gods or the Deku Tree, that can be placed on a specific location depending on where a Deku Tree resides or the mastersword/triforce needs protection.
So then it might not be the same location, but a different location that has the same protecting elements and/or name.
ehhhh
that whole thing was A) stupid, B) contradicting everything from the game it follows from except the inexplicably ridiculous ending, and C) easily handwaved. The whole world is unflooding, this is just something they did not realize is PART Of hyrule
Or otherwise we just ignore it, brush it under the rug, and say nothing else ever took place there again.
@@KairuHakubiI think there is plenty that could still take place on the Great Sea, I'm a little sad we haven't had a re-visit tbh. But as for New Hyrule not being Hyrule, there's plenty of reason it works.
Link and the Pirates set out to find this new land, I doubt the Great Sea that had lasted for centuries would dry up in the lifetime of one boy, the land had its own deep lore with not connected to Ganon or the Kingdom when they arrived, and the Kingdom was established by Tetra (probably named Hyrule in honor of King Daphnes).
@dennis141187 There are definately elements of Zelda that contradict that reading, for example: in A Link to the Past the Lost Woods has none of the elements we've come to expect from the rest of the series despite sharing the name.
But Zelda retcons itself pretty regularly. Early Zelda lore is a different beast entirely than modern lore.
@@jonesthemoblin1400 I mean.. it should have receded within a few months. and on top of that, several factions were working on it. the korogs were planting trees hoping their root system would form together into proper land again..
I'm all for villains that aren't ganon, i'm just saying.. many times before we've thought "new land" and it's just a new part of hyrule.
I feel that if you count locations in New Hyrule (a completely different continent), the you gotta count other continents without the Hyrule name, since Hyrule and all it's locations are the the bottom the sea in the adult timeline.
@7:39 I think the Holodrum Lost Woods in Oracle of Seasons should count. The title of the video asks which location is most common in the Zelda SERIES, not which appears in the most incarnations of Hyrule. Especially as you did count the Spirit Tracks Lost Woods, even though New Hyrule is an entirely different place to “old” Hyrule which got flooded. New Hyrule is only named after it because Tetra founded it after she learnt about Hyrule and her connection to it. It could just as easily been named Tetratopia if Tetra had discovered it before she learnt about Hyrule instead.
Zora’s Domain, Hyrule Castle, Temple of Time
I was wondering if Hyrule Town in Echoes of Wisdom might have been the old Kakariko village as in a link to the past, as it has the same bird statue. That due to the kingdom growing, the old village was taken up by the castle. And the villagers moved to a new place near the mountain.
In Link Between Worlds aren't there several bird statues?
Parappa and Tantari Deserts from Zelda 2 become more ambiguious because the insect enemy that shows up there also shows up in ALttP in the Desert of Mystery's dungeon. It's name? Geldarm. Or in katakana, ゲルドアーム, Gerudoarm. Similarily, the sandman enemies in the Desert of Mystery, the Geldmen, in Japanese are called ゲルドマン, Gerudoman and because the Gerudo Script of a cipher of the English alphabet, the 1997 maps we got from the Overdump cartridge has the following text in the Gerudos' unused tents in the valley: "GELD, PEOPLE OF THE SAND". Apparently, Geld was meant to be the proper romanization of ゲルド but quite frankly, Gerudo rolls off the tongue better.
As spectacle rock appears in Wind Waker as Spectacle Island, and Spectacle Rock is -part- of the Death Mountain range, one could argue that would count for a point.
Lanayru desert can be considered the gerudo desert due to a line in totk where they talk about the gerudo desert once being an ancient sea. Low and behold lanayru desert fits the bill. It also shows the migration of zora from what used to be the ancient sea to the new lanayru providence and suggests an evolution from salt sea to river water Zora. The non friendly zoras we see in echoes might be the only type of zoras that might have existed before the war against Demise.
Is it the mushroom kingdom?
My prediction is that either Death Mountain or Lost Woods are going to be the most recurring places.
But I count the Eldin named highest peak as Death Mountain as well. Mainly because that happened IRL chronologically as a trend. Like they stopped calling the Mountain Death Mountain and switched to a lighter name. I think it's to keep the younger rating applicable to their games more than anything. Death Mountain has been in pretty much every Zelda title I've ever played. And while I haven't played them all I have played a bunch of them. Also the name Death Mountain seems to transcend Hyrule. Pretty sure the Oracle games had that name for a Mountain as well. Possibly in each game which were set in 2 very different places. But I can't remember all the locations in those two titles as I haven't played them fully in probably over 15 years. Which made me excited when I saw them pop onto the Nintendo game boy streaming thing. Very awesome. Been trying to get back to them.
Anyway Lost Woods is my other contender because it has also basically been in every Zelda I've played in one way or another. Some wooded area where you have to follow some weird path or get tossed out for "being lost". So most of them being named Lost Woods makes them count as basically the same place. At least in my book.
Aside from that the only other place that has technically appeared in the most games is probably Hyrule Castle. But it's rarely the same castle. And since that's a structure and not a region it's hard to give it the same leeway as the other 2 I mentioned. Not same castle shouldn't count as same place. Regions are a little more vague in how you can categorize them.
Hyrule Field isn't in LOZ!
If Eldin Volcano is Death Mountain, then Lanayru Desert is definitely Gerudo Desert. It's always the southwest region; there's no mistaking it.
This one makes me happy, tysm
Edit: gonna replay Twilight Princess and sometime soon get Echos
My guesses going in to this were very accurate. My contenders were Death Mountain, Lake Hylia and Hyrule Castle. I honestly thought it would be Death Mountain though.
You can add 1 for Death Mountain, 1 for Kakariko Village and 1 for Lost Woods, since they appear in Wind Waker, but due to massive changes they got changed so much. and names too. You've considered the Desert from ALTTP to be the Gerudo one, so Wind Waker then is all around Ocarina as well
Dragon roost island have a dozen of hints that it's actually a death mountain, yet it is subtle - leftover of a previous civilization of Goron before leaving, Crater of the volcano have the music very similiar to that in Dodongo's cavern, there is a fairy fountain pretty close on and it is located in the same spot in relation to sunken Hyrule Castle in the middle and Forest Haven.
Now about Forest Haven, there is even more of those hints that it once was Kokiri Forest and Lost Woods with Deku Tree still being there and some buildings in the forbidden part being Kokiri leftovers.
But where Kakariko fits in this? Well, there is Windfall Island, it is not just spiritual successor there is pretty much a lot of hints like the windmill and a stone specifically behind it. While Wind Waker's map is VERY HUGE in proportions do note that desert and lake hylia are out of consideration so it is a closed view of that part of Hyrule.
Technically, Kakariko Village also appears in Twilight Princess, but it is inhabited, same with the Gerudo Dessert, which is canonically the same as Ocarina, but the Gerudo had abandoned it
Lake Hylia in The Adventure Of Link is also a point for The Hyrule Fantasy because of its location in both games.
It's stated in _Encyclopedia_ that the island location of Level-1 (Eagle) is on Lake Hylia.
While hylian geography is seldom consistent, there are a few general consistencies. Hyrule Castle is almost always in the center of the map. Lake Hylia is usually in the South. Death Mountain/the local volcano is in the North. The desert region is in the southwest. Of course, these are the broader general areas, and while they do move around a little, they are almost always found at these compass points.
My guess was Death Moutain, since along with every other locale, there as has always been a mountainous area of sorts in series since the very beginning.
Technically Hyrule field does not appear in Zelda one but does appear in Zelda 2, as the entirety of the first game takes place in death mountain. That's why death mountain in the second game is just a scaled down map of the original. The biggest problem with the maps though is that Nintendo doesn't care about the timeline, fans do. Nintendo prioritizes gameplay over story, and never intended for there to be a cohesive timeline as that would restrict their ability to make fun games if they had to worry about it falling neatly in line with other games. Miyamoto himself said that they saw it as 2 games in the same "world" then a complete reset. The timeline was an afterthought that started between TP and SS as a result of fan demand, and was released alongside the latter. I think spiritual successors should count for that reason. I don't hate the timeline but I also don't think it should be held in such high regard, especially since Nintendo has repeatedly said that they make the game without considering the timeline and then just shove it where it makes the most sense. The whole thing makes way more sense if you consider all the games as pairs then a completely different timeline/dimension or whatever else you want to call it anyway which is what Miyamoto said they did in house before they caved and made the timelines. Good video though.
Windfall Island should count for Kakariko Village imo because of the giant windmill and the references to one of the residents being a descendant of the Sheikah
New Hyrule is... New. It's a different continent entirely LOL. I wish we did get to see unflooded Hyrule again though, would've been cool.
Eldin Mountain from Skyward Sword is very clearly Death Mountain though. In BotW and TotK the area Death Mountain resides in is literally called the Eldin region. Lanaryu Desert on the other hand most likely turned into Zora's domain in the other games, which is why it wouldn't be included in Gerudo desert section.
On a related noted, Spectacle Rock was always a geographic feature of Death Mountain, except for Breath and Tears, where they decided to place it next to the desert, in the opposite corner of the world.
That threw me for a loop, that's for sure.
There’s an obvious missing link here that, while it doesn’t change the outcome, is important to remember: TP Sacred Grove. Why do I throw it up? Let’s see… Winding, confusing paths meant to ward out anyone who doesn’t know where to go… Saria’s Song playing in the background… the Skull Kid directly playing Saria’s Song on his Trumpet with him finding TP Link fun… Located in Faron Woods…
In literally every regard, this is the Lost Woods. Not subtly, no very directly. While it now leads to the ruined Temple of Time instead of some talking tree, the comparison is beyond uncanny. Likewise with TP being a sequel to OoT to the degree that the Hero’s Shade is directly OoT Link, yeah no such a direct comparison with even the Skull Kid lining up cannot be ignored. It counts as an extra Lost Woods point.
Where is Hyrule Field in the original Zelda?
around the start of the game
The parts of the overworld that aren't the lost woods, central lake, coast, desert, or death mountain
It should also be counted in Zelda II because the game literally takes place in the fields of Hyrule.
That's the first question I had about this video too. Does the map that came with Zelda 1 call a specific area "Hyrule Field"? I don't remember there being a Hyrule Field until it was introduced in Ocarina of Time. Sure, you can go back and say "the place where you start the game is in Hyrule Field," but that's not the same as places like the Lost Woods, Death Mountain, and Spectacle Rock that were given those names in the material included with the original game.
There are certain areas that I wish would return that haven’t despite having the perfect opportunity to. I wish Southorn Village in Echoes was Ordon. I think it would’ve been a perfect callback and location wise it’s in a near perfect spot. Plus it’s fitting if that’s Link’s home.
for skyward sword, one of the bugs you can catch in the lanayru desert is called the gerudo dragonfly. so I feel like it should count.
Skyward Sword's dessert definetely counts. There's even insects in there named "Gerudo Dragonfly".
There's no master sword in OoS lost woods... That's the "Noble Sword". In the Oracles titles the only way to obtain "The Master Sword" is by completing a series of cryptic events involving both versions of the game.
Kakariko is also in Twilight Princess and Echoes of Wisdom. If you wanna be generous, include Hidden Village in there too since it was historically an old Kakariko Village. +3 for Kakariko
The lost woods might just be large enough to span across both Hyrule and Holodrum.
Interesting bit about Hebra Mountain and Death Mountain. A Link to the Past's Light World doesn't have Death Mountain. That explains why Echoes of Wisdom has Eldin Volcano, Hebra Mountain, and Mount Lanayru, but none of them are called "Death Mountain"
Interesting coincidence, Death Mountain is only in games which feature Ganon as the main villain.
I feel like Eldin Volcano could count as Death Mountain because BOTW refers to the region the mountain is located in is called Eldin so presumably Eldin is just Death Mountain just that it's named after the region and not the fact people die there or something. Honestly I think it's only called that cause you don't have anything else to call it as opposed to Gerudo desert which were named after it's inhabitants who haven't been there yet. It's a name change as opposed to something actively changing about the location. Though in that case Lake Floria would count as Lake Hylia as it was probably renamed after Hyrule's founding cause it's kinda weird it wasn't already or something :P
Also while it doesn't matter the Forbidden Forest and the sanctuary is supposed to be the kokiri Forest/loost woods. Debatable for Dragonroost being Death Mountain cause apparently that's Zora's Domain for some reason or something
Fun fact, Oracle of seasons started out as a remake of zelda 1 so it is sort of the same map, but renamed.
Hyrule sits on a supervolcano hotspot.
Totk proves this
I thought this was going to turn out to be the "Fairy Fountain" or something like that.
Beedles shop would have been interesting as well.
I'd count any volcanic region (especially populated with Gorons) as the death mountain region.
Was really expecting the Windfish Egg to be on top
Wind Waker should get points for not only Hyrule Castle and Lake Hylia, but also Lost Woods/Kokiri Forest (Forbidden Woods), Death Mountain (Dragon Roost Isle), and Kakariko Village (Windfall Island, complete with windmill and graveyard from Ocarina of Time).
(ETA: Also Spectacle Rock / Spectacle Isles, which is curiously not on your list.)
I regard the Eternal Forest as the Lost Woods. EoW is lit a sequel to aLttP and aLBW and it's at the same location as the Lost Woods in aLttP. They also changed the name of the Triforce but I am prettty sure we all still call it the Triforce.
btw. breath of the wild came simultanously to the wiiU. Not sure if it make it not original to the switch or yes. like technically it's a port by the fact that it was originaly developed for the WiiU, but that's not exactly how we use the word.
For Lost Woods Echoes of Wisdom obviously counts because its the same location as the other LTTP adjacent games.
However, if you're only counting the locations that exist in Hyrule, then Spirit Tracks is debatable. Its clearly not the same Hyrule, its literally NEW Hyrule. However, you could argue its still the "Lost Woods" in Hyrule.
If you're just going by locations called the Lost Woods, then I say count all of them. The Eternal Forest is obviously the same location as LTTP/LBW Lost Woods, so it just had a name change at some point but its still the Lost Woods.
Wind Waker is a very questionable one. Forest Haven is clearly intended to be the future version of the Lost Woods, but it could be argued the ACTUAL Lost Woods were buried under the sea and are gone now. So this one I think could be left out. In addition, the Sacred Grove from Twilight Princess should also count as the Lost Woods.
Add in Spirit Tracks and the Oracle games for having the same name, and Majora's Mask for having the same location.
I think if lost woods from spirit tracks count, than the one from seasons should too. They’re both locations call the lost woods with lost woods properties, but are both not on the original hyrule.
Hmm... Eldin can definitely be Mount Doom. First, not every mount doom is an active volcano. Second, Volcano can have snow on them. Just at Mt. Fuji.
i think its worth noting that the fire island in wind waker is most likely the peak of death mountain that or dragon roost i don't know which but definitely one of them
Dragon roost and Skyward swords Eldin volcano should definitely count under death mountain.
I'm questioning why we count things like the Lost woods in ocarina of Time and Majora's mask as two separate appearances even though it's the exact same locale. But we count Hyrule Castle separately for each game even though they're often entirely different buildings and areas. Not that I disagree, just adding to the conversation.
I feel like Eldin volcano should have been counted since, historically, the surface from Skyward Sword is just the first version of Hyrule. With that evidence, it is also true that Eldin Volcano goes on to be Death Mountain, regardless of the name change. And I feel like there's an issue here too, cause you counted stuff from Spirit Tracks, despite it taking place hundreds of years after Wind Waker, and on an entirely New Hyrule, not being the same one from Wind Waker. Overall, you can't really do this whole thing based off of just stuff like shared names.
Sometimes Hyrule is a little different.
Sometimes it looks like it was run through a blender.
Before watching the video, I'm going to guess that it's Spectacle Rock because that was in the original and has been referenced many times since. Other guesses that come to mind are Hyrule Castle and Death Mountain, but I can think of a couple of early Zelda games that neither of those are in.
EDIT: Well, I was close, but it's not even mentioned in your video! I looked it up, and Spectacle Rock appears in some form in 8 Zelda games: LoZ, AoL, ALttP, OoT, FSA, ALBW, BotW, and TotK.
Is it hyrule?
I thought Dragon Roost Island from WW was the sunken version of Death Mountain, it's even got the same "halo" cloud.
I definitely think Lost Woods should count in Majora, it's certainly in the intro, and I agree to count the Oracles version. I disagree on the Eternal Forest in Echoes, but we might as well count the Sacred Grove in Twilight since it's practically one specific area of the greater Lost Woods just as the Sacred Forest Meadow from Ocarina is in the Lost Woods. debatably we might even count the Royal Valley in Minish for having the same function as the Lost Woods but that's a stretch.
is Eldin Volcano just an old name for what would later be called Death Mountain? does Mt Crenel also fit this bill? important questions
You didn't mention Spectacle Rock. It's whole purpose (post Zelda 1) is to be included in every Zelda as an Easter egg
Think the Eternal Forest is the same Trees, but not the same Woods. Hard to explain this argument for sure, but think things are just too far removed by time in Echoes, to make them related by anything besides blood or DNA.
I'm surprised to find that Spectacle Rock is only in 5 games.
But Spirit Tracks New Hyrule IS in a different landmass, remember that Hyrule as we know it is flooded; in that case I think skyward sword gerudo dessert and death mountain should count but Spirit Tracks point (maybe only Hyrule castle) should be dismissed.
id say eldin volcano is death mountain because death mountain is in the eldin region in botw/totk and is notably the only volcano present there
Isn't hyrule castle technically displayed in Majora's Mask in the flashback memory when he recalls how to play the song of time? I'm trying to remember if they're in the garden of the castle or if its a more blank setting. Someone refresh my memory!
Majoras mask has lost woods in the intro.
I’m not sure how Hyrule Field is in Zelda 1. Death Mountain is the only named location, and I think it’s fair to assume one of the 2 lakes is Lake Hylia, but Hyrule Field I think is a bit of a stretch.
Hyrule is the most common location in the Legend of Zelda out of all the locations in the universe/multiverse of the Legend of Zelda.
It's more of a landmark than a location, but how many games featured Spectacle Rock?
Eight (LoZ, AoL, ALttP, OoT, FSA, ALBW, BotW, and TotK)
Seems that it was overlooked in this video.
@@slenderMax28 Spectacle Island in WW should maybe count as well.
Before watching through, gonna lock in my prediction that the winner is either Lake Hylia or Death Mountain. If it's neither, I will admit my defeat.
Lol I should have thought of the Castle - I did think of it midway through the video but was too late! Good show.
I think debating if each area is the exact same place is probably the wrong way to go about it. As given the similarities between the map of Echoes of Wisdom and ALttP for example one coukd easily make the connection that Mount Hebra in EoW is the same Mountain from ALttP/ALBW, same with the Lost Woods of ALttP and the Eternal Forest. I think it's probably easier to just count the names and whether or not theyre in Hyrule or not.
i would i said the lost woods, because i know there was no hyrule castle in the first zelda, while there is a forest maze area that i would count as the lost woods. for death mountain i was unsure, i didn't know it was the same as mt hebra in japanese
what's your source/methodology for named places in the first zelda game? I remember Death Mountain and the Lost Woods appearing by name in guides and instruction booklets but I don't remember the name "Hyrule Field" appearing by that name, and unlike Lake Hylia I'm having a hard time picking out what feature on the map from the first game fits as an obvious Hyrule Field. The map for that game is mostly mountains, forest, and shoreline. Is it the starting area that you're talking about? That's the least woodsy/hilly part of the map but it doesn't really feel like an obvious Hyrule Field precursor.
What about Spectacle Rock???
echos, lttp and between worlds use the same map. Zelda and adventures of link share part of a map
I was certain that the castle showed up less than Death Mt and Lost woods.
I was surprised to find I was wrong.
In my case I think of certain areas based off Ocaranna names; without actually knowing what they were called.
As in all mts were death mt. All woods the lost woods... ie why I thought the castle showed up less.
I will however question your judgement in case of the castle showing up in Link 2.
What was Zeldas sleeping location; and each castle in that game named? Never really knew their actual names not the location name tacked on to them.
For instance Desert Palace/Swamp Palace/Island Paace/Labrynth Palace/Ocean Palace/Southern Palace/Final Palace/Zeldas Bed Chambers
Because currently that is how I name them by location. But like the city names I figured the Palaces and rest place had proper names in the lore... hence my question.
At 5:52
My bet is death mountain
Edit. Not DM. At 10:49 for my last possible guess and I realized, is it just hyrule castle?
Edit 2. Ok yeah that was right
This is random, but what if Navi went into the lost woods, died, and created Termina?
30 seconds in? My guess is The Lost Woods.
Theres lost woods in tp where you get ms
I disagree about Eldin Volcano. It's obviously Death Mountain! What, you think one volcano is going to disappear and be replaced by another volcano within 10 to 20 thousand years? Doubtful.
considering the entire map of zelda 1 is shrunken down in z2 shouldnt you count every location thats in z1 as also being in z2?
Hey wait a second. Isn't Hyrule Field technically in Wind Waker?
Does Links House count? 🤪 Or might that be in a future common “buildings” video haha. Like the temple of time.
You don't need to do math,
You need to do geography.
The area you start in zelda 2 isn't called hyrule feild?
Ok just before watching this, I wanna guess that it is either Death Mountain or Kakariko Village. Looking forward to being proven wrong lol
Edit: idk how I forgot that was a location
I wonder if you would count Cadence of Hyrule