Only issue is a lot of airlines that get them second hand don’t maintain them too well. Also clearly they shouldn’t be using this aircraft at this airport, especially in the rain.
Ah yes. African regional airlines is where old airplanes go to retire... Music is very appropriate... Love the high tech rain deflection technology too!!!!
I cannot speak for other countries, as I have little knowledge of their air safety regulations. However, all aircraft operating from uk ports need a valid C of A. This is like a cars mot, but stricter. Each aircraft undergoing such tests are virtually stripped to the last nut and bolt. This ensures that every aircrzft holding such s certificate is as good as new. It csn therefor be taken as read that all such aircraft were virtually new on the day the certificate was issued. No doubt some, less safety conscious, nations, will fraudulently circumvent this system. So always fly on aicraft which operate out of the uk, if you can. This will ensure you fly in a more safe aircraft. Sorry if you already knew this. But not everybody is aware.
Noel, thanks for these vids. I fly about 300k miles a year and have been grounded since Mar due to covid. Living vicariously through your vlogs has gotten me through this and scratched my travel itch. Keep up the great work.
I was in Mombasa, Malindi & Lamu in 1972. I had a good time; especially in Malindi. Great snorkeling. We bought huge live lobsters on the beach & cooked them up in our motel kitchen.
@Noel we have a Fokker 50 operating between Dublin Airport and Donegal, the latter being a spectacular place to land. Worth the trip if haven't already done it.
Noel, I’m curious. Flying during the pandemic, getting your temp taken all over the world, what are your thoughts/plans if you were to suddenly have a fever that you didn’t expect and you get stuck somewhere remote?
You are wondering about starting the engines early well it's because without or before Auxiliary Power Units (APUs) you have to start one of the main engines to get electrical power (without draining the battery) and air conditioning going for passenger comfort. Since the passengers were boarding on the left side, you had to start the right engine first. Once all passengers were on board and the doors were closed, the left engines were started as well.
@@filthywings353 Are you sure? I know he says both engines but he could be mistaken. You'd be amazed at what would be sucked into the props if the left engine was started
I had a holiday in Kenya many years ago and one of our party commented that "They fly their aeroplanes the same way they drive their cars" BTW to me there is something reassuring about flying in a 30 year-old 'plane: It hasn't crashed in 30 years, what are the chances of it crashing now...
Thank you so much for the video o did the same F50 some time back and was worried by lack of care of the plane ..small things like coach roaches in the gaps make you ask what else is not being checked but absolutely stellar flight and cabin crew. Thank you again for gracing Kenya with your visit during this time.
Oh! I think the aircraft you flew on is a Fokker F27 fellowship! It’s one of the most if not the most successful turboprop built in Europe! Many of them are being retired! While some are being transferred into freighter’s! Lucky you flown on one in 2020! Stay safe man 😄😅 Greetings from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦And it’s my pleasure to be one of your subscribers! Huge like from me ☺️🥰👍👍♥️💚❤️ Edit: I just heard you saying a Fokker 50! So I was wrong! Bye 👋😆😆🤦♂️
Just for your info as you seem interested, the state of the runway (wet/ice/etc) has less to do with the Take-Off Distance Required (TODR), but more with the Stop distance (ASDA) in case of malfunctions. Of course an aircraft needs a certain amount of runway but that doesn't change with the runway state, just the by you mentioned density, temperature, etc. Now the crashed plane actually overran on landing (If I looked up the right one!). Love your reports, even more being grounded & furloughed now!
I'm kind of new to this channel! Nice video! Can you fly on more British airways planes? I love the way the lady was going crazy about sharing a brolly with Noel Phillips.
I Flew on a Fly540 ATR 42 from the early 80s a few years back from NBO to Melinda, it was very tired and you entered through the cargo area. The return to NBO was via Mombasa where I sat in the dispatchers office having a chat as the only passenger while they refuelled.
The aircraft (F50) may be old but you do realise the aircraft is tough, strong and sturdy - look at the airframe...tough as nails. There is nothing wrong with the F50 aircraft. It has excellent range, is fuel efficient and has reasonable cruise speed (up to 270 knots) for a turboprop aircraft of its size (50 seats). I think your opinion and assessment of the F50 is a bit harsh. Nothing wrong with old aircraft if they get the job done as good as newer aircraft.
@@AbsolutelyEverybody1 This video had departure from Wilson airport WIL/HKNW. Longest rwy 1560m plus elevation is 5500ft. This would never be allowed in Europe as the runway is shorter than required for the elevation for the F50
I fell in love with a Kenyan lady at a SPAR Europa department store while we visited relatives in that region. I spoke with her about the famous coffee that is transported from the Kenyan harbor of Mombassa. She spoke better German than I did, I'm very proud to say. Also she and I like the songs sung by the late Mr. Peter Alexander Thank You, Cheers.
That reminds me, In the Bahamas, on their Beechcraft 1900s, the airline “Pineapple air”will leave the right engine on full blast ( I mean full blast) while people are getting on and off the plane. Not entirely sure why they do that but it was uncomfortably loud.
University colleague told me of a flight in a DC3 somewhere in Africa. He asked why he had to sit on the floor. Half of the seats had been removed due to hot and high regulations, but they filled the plane anyway!
Must've been over 20 years since I last flew on a Fokker 50 (with KLM). They sure made use of every inch of the runway for take-off there :). The wheel bearings looked a bit loose to me.
Did you happen to get the registration of the F50? We had several F50’s flying to here where i live in Geraldton Western Australia until only a few years ago. They were operated by Skywest Airlines which was acquired by Virgin Australia who then sold off all the F50’s, to my knowledge, to mostly African airlines. I know at least some are definitely operating out of Kenya now. I’m curious to know if the aircraft is one of the old girls that used to fly here. The Fokker 50 is a beautiful aircraft and has a very special place in my heart.
Engines firing up, while passengers stilll boarding..Got that scene from raiders of the last ark going on in my head, lol On nail biting, I got on a Heathrow to st Petersburg flight with aeroflop 30years ago. And I swear to gods, that we got on through the rear cargo hold.. the seats weren’t screwed down properly, so slid on their rails. And I noticed some nuts rattling in the wing with an engine.. scared me shxt less, lol .. but that take off of yours!! You are so affable and funny. Your stiff upper lip in the face of a trifle bit of terror made me smile
Great vlog as always! I saw it on the hat racks that it was a F-50. Do you have the reg of the aircraft? The one that crashed started its life on Iceland in 1992. I love the F-50 and the F-27. They are built like tanks! Stay safe, and be safe! I flew the F-50 for the first time on the 18th of May 1990 from TOS-ALF. The F-27 that I remember, spring 1974 from TRD-RRS.
Flew Somali Airlines F27 or F50 in the early 80's from Kishmayo to Mog. I remember an Ethiopian Canberra bomber there, where the Ethiopian pilot had defected during the Ogaden war.
Great report! Such a cool aircraft they fly regularly from here in Adelaide with an airline call Alliance but for some reason I feel like they're a lot safer here in Australia !
Brings back memories of flying around Ethiopia on a Fokker, great little plane. Now I believe Ethiopian operates the Dash 8 and 6 on its domestic routes. However the runways in Addis Ababa are much longer
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:D
1 week ago??? 😂
Dude, the Republic of Singapore Air Force have several of these.... It's good and reliable enough.
How is his comment been made a week ago?
CPlayzRBX yup! Your right! But maybe he uploaded the video privately, but then changed it back into public! 😂😂
Hahaha my God that takeoff 💀 a bit spicy for me!
And I always thought trip reporters never get nervous 😄
No kidding! And after seeing the grass right after rotation, I'm just thinking when do I impact the trees just beyond.
Love your videos Noel and same with you Paul !
I thought you were joking until I saw it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️
BettheR tHaN rrryyyaaANaiiiIRr
First Officer: Looks like we're coming up about 500 meters short on our take-off run calculations.
Captain: OK, sounds good!
The translation at 3:45 had me laughing because that's definitely what she said and that's what everyone should do.
She was actually singing along to the song she had playing on her headphones- "You can stand under my Umbrella-ella-ella-ella..."
@@davecross4408 hahahaha
Hahaha wapenda sifa mko
The translation was a total joke to let subscribe not the actually word she said was translated
The translation was a total joke to let subscribe not the actually word she said was translated
Fokker: Dutch top quality. Accidents happened by human errors. They could fly another 30 years if mantained well.
True
I used to fly them. Pretty reliable.
Only issue is a lot of airlines that get them second hand don’t maintain them too well. Also clearly they shouldn’t be using this aircraft at this airport, especially in the rain.
No. the are knows THE FLYEING COFFENS!
Fokker Friendships underpinned Australian regional flying for 40 years.
Great planes.
6:48 Now that's a mark of Kenyan efficiency, V2 with 1 meter remaining! 👍🏽👍🏽
Wow, such an efficient runway design! Exactly the length needed for takeoff and not an inch more! /s
But seriously, holy cow was that a nail-biter.
Russian proverb:
We pay for the whole runway, we use the whole runway
Airline: the perfect lenth runway not a inch more
Customer: what if a engine fails or something
: Airline there is no time for that
@@christiancostantino7220 Some also keep it in ground effect as long as possible to gain some speed, sounds like the recipe to grossly overload.
@@alielabdimarras7965 Yup
Lovely to see an old F50 again, I wrote some of the maintenance manuals for this aircraft back in 1988
Gold touch mate
Ah yes. African regional airlines is where old airplanes go to retire...
Music is very appropriate...
Love the high tech rain deflection technology too!!!!
I believe you meant to say crash and be scrapped not retire
Ironically they've probably never worked harder in their lives. Poor old focker 😆
@@BigEsTruckstop Actually there are not many crashes,as you would think🤷♀️
I’ve been on flights where passengers have clapped on landing. Perhaps here, they should clap following takeoff, too!
Russia: we pay for whole runway we use whole runway
Kenya: hold my beer
Very funny!
F50 Takeoff: 1,350 m (4,430 ft) - ISA, SL, MTOW + runaway 14 Wilson airport 1,300 m = Russia is to blame))
1.4 km at 5300ft. A tight one
@@victorkoval3783 wtf
@Max S russians do still fly planes in parts of africa where other pilots have refused e.g. the congo, mozambique,...
The airline paid to use the whole runway, and they wanted to get their money’s worth.
best comment lol
You can still get on a Fokker 50 on a scheduled flight from London. Air Antwerp use one on their sole scheduled route, London City to Antwerp.
I cannot speak for other countries, as I have little knowledge of their air safety regulations. However, all aircraft operating from uk ports need a valid C of A. This is like a cars mot, but stricter.
Each aircraft undergoing such tests are virtually stripped to the last nut and bolt. This ensures that every aircrzft holding such s certificate is as good as new. It csn therefor be taken as read that all such aircraft were virtually new on the day the certificate was issued.
No doubt some, less safety conscious, nations, will fraudulently circumvent this system. So always fly on aicraft which operate out of the uk, if you can.
This will ensure you fly in a more safe aircraft.
Sorry if you already knew this. But not everybody is aware.
Wow, the take off ... exactly as you said...
It was like a 30 second roll as well, which is way longer than normal on a plane like that 😂
Hahaha the humor in the swahili translation caption got me subscribing. Good stuff noel.
Noel, thanks for these vids. I fly about 300k miles a year and have been grounded since Mar due to covid. Living vicariously through your vlogs has gotten me through this and scratched my travel itch. Keep up the great work.
‘For those who managed to board without being decapitated..’ 😜 love your work Noel!!!
If I did ever takeoff from that runway I will brace for takeoff
Haha!!!😀😀😀
😂😂😂
I think Alex Ferguson would call that takeoff a squeaky bum moment!! Love it!
@Hi Paul how are you doing
Another very interesting vlog Noel !
Fokker 50 ? A true classic !
They used the whole runway ? 🤔
That's what I call economizing. Nevermind wasting money on an option to abort takeoff. What do we overpay pilots for anyway?
@Hi Ted how are you doing
So basically the Vr is just the end of the runway 😆
Yes after that its you and your angels 😇
V1... 10 seconds later... Rotate
That’s how it should be, otherwise the extra pavement is waisted.
@@thomaskettunen3699 more like.. Rotate.... 10 seconds later V1
@@user-tb7rn1il3q if I pay for the whole runway I'ma use the whole runway
Hey Noel, you can get a Alliance Airlines Fokker 50 from Adelaide to Olympic Dam. I use to work for them, loved the old 50
Fokker 50... Underrated aircraft. Very well build.
Oh my goodness, where did the runway go! You have nerves of steel going on that plane! Great video!
Just a little sidenote: This is Wilson Airport and not the normal, international airport of Nairobi which is further to the east...
Nairobi approach /dept covers both Wilson and jomo. The airports are very close togther.
@@TheAbartw not that close if you factor in the traffic between the two.p
@@MrMaboboz Traffic? He's talking about planes !!
I was in Mombasa, Malindi & Lamu in 1972. I had a good time; especially in Malindi. Great snorkeling. We bought huge live lobsters on the beach & cooked them up in our motel kitchen.
@Noel we have a Fokker 50 operating between Dublin Airport and Donegal, the latter being a spectacular place to land. Worth the trip if haven't already done it.
STOL executed perfectly. Most of the pilots flying civilian planes in Kenya are ex-military men
"The weather here in Kenya is just so varied". Well it would be as there is a ca. 5,500 ft difference in altitude between the two. ;-)
Yeah sure
YES !!! What a fantastic take off run on the F50 😀 great vlog Noel 👍
Thanks 👍
Wow, this really makes me realize how much I take for granted the rules/regulations here.
That takeoff 🛫 🙊🙈🙉 great video as always, really appreciate the unique and unusual adventures you take us on👍
Should be called: ”Trying not to develop a fear of flying on a random 30-year-old African airplane owned by an airline that barely has a website”
5:52 That’s when you try ( *We pay for whole runway, we use whole runway* ) but your not Russian! 😂😂🤪
Noel your subtitles is one of the best and most entertaining one among the Airline review channels.
The touch down was smooth.. 😊 😊
Thanks for this very informative video. You are certainly very brave to get in to this plane at all. Well done.
So hilarious. Love your witty and honest commentary. You and Josh Cahill should totally do a collab. 🙏✈✈🚀
What an amazing video! You are so brave, my heart was beating hard just from watching the take off 😀
7:10 Mind your head - 'cept when there's a spinning prop about, then you're all good.
Noel, I’m curious. Flying during the pandemic, getting your temp taken all over the world, what are your thoughts/plans if you were to suddenly have a fever that you didn’t expect and you get stuck somewhere remote?
You are wondering about starting the engines early well it's because without or before Auxiliary Power Units (APUs) you have to start one of the main engines to get electrical power (without draining the battery) and air conditioning going for passenger comfort. Since the passengers were boarding on the left side, you had to start the right engine first. Once all passengers were on board and the doors were closed, the left engines were started as well.
But they started both engines while boarding though.
@@filthywings353 Are you sure? I know he says both engines but he could be mistaken. You'd be amazed at what would be sucked into the props if the left engine was started
I had a holiday in Kenya many years ago and one of our party commented that "They fly their aeroplanes the same way they drive their cars"
BTW to me there is something reassuring about flying in a 30 year-old 'plane: It hasn't crashed in 30 years, what are the chances of it crashing now...
You should come back in Kenya we tour together 😘😄😄, when you come please just let me know😊😊
It's due, lol.
Higher now 😂
Love a runway that is the exact length of an F50 take off. Very abstemious use of tarmac. Bravo
HAHAHA! I laughed so hard on the “Adam Ant” thing!!! 😂😂😂
Ha, I loved the "mind your head" sign! Have you done videos on any jet Fokkers, the 28, 70, or 100? I found this while looking for the F28.
What an awesome and scary take off.. But the old Fokker 50 was/is a great plane to fly with. Love all your videos .. Keep up sharing with us mate.
Thanks 👍
HEY NOEL, WHAT AN INCREDIBLE FLIGHT ON SKYWARD EXPRESS FOKKER 50, AND TO THIS AIRWAY CAPTAIN THRU REGIONAL FLYER, CONGRATS!!
Thank you so much for the video o did the same F50 some time back and was worried by lack of care of the plane ..small things like coach roaches in the gaps make you ask what else is not being checked but absolutely stellar flight and cabin crew. Thank you again for gracing Kenya with your visit during this time.
Brilliant video Noel. This is you at your best again. So nice to see something so different.
You know you're getting old when even 30-year-old turboprops look young 🙁
Nothing wrong with that. :) It is a natural process of life. Merry Christmas and happy new year BTW
FSX has taught me that the minimum runway length is just a suggestion, not a rule.
Best aviation channel for me. There is always a twist. I still remember your Himalaya videos where your helo got stuck in bad weather.
Lol that take off, it's like when I try to take off a boeing 747 from a regional airport on FSX.
fsx????!!!
I did not get the Adam Ant joke? Nice old Fk50, great video, brings back some memories.😊
Oh! I think the aircraft you flew on is a Fokker F27 fellowship! It’s one of the most if not the most successful turboprop built in Europe! Many of them are being retired! While some are being transferred into freighter’s! Lucky you flown on one in 2020! Stay safe man 😄😅 Greetings from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦And it’s my pleasure to be one of your subscribers! Huge like from me ☺️🥰👍👍♥️💚❤️
Edit: I just heard you saying a Fokker 50! So I was wrong! Bye 👋😆😆🤦♂️
Great travelreports Noel. Especially the exotic and unknown airlines and airports are adventures itself.
6:04 The turboprop sound is sooooo satisfying 😴
spectacular landing!!
Just for your info as you seem interested, the state of the runway (wet/ice/etc) has less to do with the Take-Off Distance Required (TODR), but more with the Stop distance (ASDA) in case of malfunctions. Of course an aircraft needs a certain amount of runway but that doesn't change with the runway state, just the by you mentioned density, temperature, etc. Now the crashed plane actually overran on landing (If I looked up the right one!).
Love your reports, even more being grounded & furloughed now!
I'm kind of new to this channel! Nice video! Can you fly on more British airways planes? I love the way the lady was going crazy about sharing a brolly with Noel Phillips.
He probably just wrote in what he wanted her to say. I don’t think she actually cared
Mercy! That takeoff reminds me of the Spirit of St Louis movie.
Your music selection is very appropriate 😂
I Flew on a Fly540 ATR 42 from the early 80s a few years back from NBO to Melinda, it was very tired and you entered through the cargo area. The return to NBO was via Mombasa where I sat in the dispatchers office having a chat as the only passenger while they refuelled.
The umbrella is such a nice idea, anywhere else they don't care if you get wet, and how cool is that somebody recognised you !
The translation was a joke. You actually believed it ☺️
Virgin Atlantic is letting people have a dinner on there last ever 747 I think that would be a really good video
Sold out in minutes unfortunately
@@matthewravenscroft1999 very sad that they have to retire them
The aircraft (F50) may be old but you do realise the aircraft is tough, strong and sturdy - look at the airframe...tough as nails. There is nothing wrong with the F50 aircraft. It has excellent range, is fuel efficient and has reasonable cruise speed (up to 270 knots) for a turboprop aircraft of its size (50 seats). I think your opinion and assessment of the F50 is a bit harsh. Nothing wrong with old aircraft if they get the job done as good as newer aircraft.
Nothing wrong with it, just they would need better performance at that airport (or longer rwy)
@@thomaskettunen3699 which airport?
@@AbsolutelyEverybody1 This video had departure from Wilson airport WIL/HKNW. Longest rwy 1560m plus elevation is 5500ft. This would never be allowed in Europe as the runway is shorter than required for the elevation for the F50
@@thomaskettunen3699 F50s used to fly to Carnarvon airport where the runway there is 1,679m
@@AbsolutelyEverybody1 That would be completely reasonable since it's at sea level. F50 requires just about 1300m ASL
It's on their website what aircraft they use - on the "about us" page. Fokker 50s and Dash 8s.
I fell in love with a Kenyan lady at a SPAR Europa department store while we visited relatives in that region.
I spoke with her about the famous coffee that is transported from the Kenyan harbor of Mombassa.
She spoke better German than I did, I'm very proud to say. Also she and I like the songs sung by the late Mr. Peter Alexander
Thank You,
Cheers.
Am loving your Kenyan series.
I liked the sound of heart beat you added on the take off run and how it stopped on take off, LOL! Nice touch. 😂
😂
That landing was absolutely nuts. I've seen less butter in Paula Deen recipes!
That reminds me, In the Bahamas, on their Beechcraft 1900s, the airline “Pineapple air”will leave the right engine on full blast ( I mean full blast) while people are getting on and off the plane. Not entirely sure why they do that but it was uncomfortably loud.
Smooth landing bravo 👏
That Adam Ant quip 👌🏻
Daaaaaaang, that takeoff!! I guess they never heard of "weight restricted" flights before!! LOL!!
My experience with regional airlines from Africa is on a par with European, American regional airlines. Good service, on time and new aircrafts.
Both the departure and landing went very smooth. I had worse flight with Ryanair and Air France.
Wow, that take off was scary haha. Awesome video, Noel!
Reminds me of VLM flights I used to take between Manchester and London City 15 years ago. FlyVLM !
Cool report Thanks
Loved the music 🎶
Same here
I love the Fokker 50. Lovely old plane. Solid and quiet. And to be honest, the F50 has been operating at Wilson literally for ever...
Noel your subtitles for the lady with the brolly really made me laugh mate well done.
one of the funniest videos i’ve watched in quite a while!!
University colleague told me of a flight in a DC3 somewhere in Africa. He asked why he had to sit on the floor. Half of the seats had been removed due to hot and high regulations, but they filled the plane anyway!
should have taken a camping chair along :D
Aye carumba, what a take off ... gulp! I think NP is the best of the AV TH-camrs, the things he does for his viewers, nice work sir.
I used to fly on old Fokker F27s back in the 1990s out of Tripoli to the Sahara oil fields
@Hi Jim how are you doing
Must've been over 20 years since I last flew on a Fokker 50 (with KLM). They sure made use of every inch of the runway for take-off there :). The wheel bearings looked a bit loose to me.
Did you happen to get the registration of the F50?
We had several F50’s flying to here where i live in Geraldton Western Australia until only a few years ago. They were operated by Skywest Airlines which was acquired by Virgin Australia who then sold off all the F50’s, to my knowledge, to mostly African airlines. I know at least some are definitely operating out of Kenya now.
I’m curious to know if the aircraft is one of the old girls that used to fly here.
The Fokker 50 is a beautiful aircraft and has a very special place in my heart.
Engines firing up, while passengers stilll boarding..Got that scene from raiders of the last ark going on in my head, lol
On nail biting, I got on a Heathrow to st Petersburg flight with aeroflop 30years ago. And I swear to gods, that we got on through the rear cargo hold.. the seats weren’t screwed down properly, so slid on their rails. And I noticed some nuts rattling in the wing with an engine.. scared me shxt less, lol .. but that take off of yours!!
You are so affable and funny. Your stiff upper lip in the face of a trifle bit of terror made me smile
That landing was buttery tho
Great vlog as always! I saw it on the hat racks that it was a F-50. Do you have the reg of the aircraft? The one that crashed started its life on Iceland in 1992. I love the F-50 and the F-27. They are built like tanks! Stay safe, and be safe! I flew the F-50 for the first time on the 18th of May 1990 from TOS-ALF. The F-27 that I remember, spring 1974 from TRD-RRS.
Flippin heck, that was very close, I held my breath all the way through that take off 🛫🤪😬😲
Thanks Noel
Wow. That landing was textbook
Flew Somali Airlines F27 or F50 in the early 80's from Kishmayo to Mog. I remember an Ethiopian Canberra bomber there, where the Ethiopian pilot had defected during the Ogaden war.
lol! the take off!!! lucky no mountains or trees at the end... or that will be your end! and also the wheel bearing...wheels a bit wobbly!
Great report! Such a cool aircraft they fly regularly from here in Adelaide with an airline call Alliance but for some reason I feel like they're a lot safer here in Australia !
I agree the aircraft is great whats needed is just the level of care and service
An old aircraft will always be old no matter which side of the planet someone is.
Yep...F50s are run better here in Australia.
Brings back memories of flying around Ethiopia on a Fokker, great little plane. Now I believe Ethiopian operates the Dash 8 and 6 on its domestic routes. However the runways in Addis Ababa are much longer
Super video Noel. Skilful pilots on that flight.
I hope you enjoyed Mombasa and the Kenyan Coast, Its an experience as well. Please make sure you try Kenya PSV vehicles popularly known as matatus. This are planes on the ground.