Watched Manuel's 1987 golf clinic and bought his book, Understanding the Golf Swing. I couldn't believe how simple his concept was, 90 per cent of my shots are down the fairway, my handicap has dropped at least 5 shots in the last year, Golf is fun to play now.
The most complete golf introduction video I've ever seen. Even in question time, you repeated the questions then gave a clear answer how to remedy the problem
I attended Ed's Golf School last summer with my brother. I made a little progress during the school as I was learning his (and Manuel del la Torre's) simplified approach to golf, but my real breakthrough came when I went home and grooved my swing with those 4 simple fundamentals. Now my golf balls are nearly all going where I aim them(!), I have just one swing thought instead of 7, and my shots now feel like throwing darts at a target. Thanks again Ed!
I had a strong grip that required manipulation to hit straight. The neutral grip requires no manipulation or thought and i can hit more square and more on center and further. I am so grateful that I stumbled onto you. I wish I encountered you sooner. Any beginning golfers I encounter will be directed to your videos. Thanks.
Greetings...Hopefully the Golf Expo is going/went well for you Ed. You really have a presence when your talking in front of other's. I thank you for the legacy of other's whom this knowledge lives on. Thank you Ed. Thank you Manuel. Thank you Angel. Thank you Earnest.
I find it always remarkable when we combine a person's physical ability with a more effective understanding of setup and swing. Congrats on your progress. Practice conscientiously.
Thanks Ed. Only discovered Earnest Jones a few months ago and then through research, Manuel De La Torre. I have both their books and watch the De La Torre videos regularly. A shame it took so long as Maneul was being inducted into the golf Hall of Fame around the time I started playing and I saw no mention of this concept. I am now 64 and playing some of the best and most consistant golf I have ever played, just by swinging the golf club and no other thoughts. Thanks for a great seminar which explains the concepts. Since adopting these principals I have developed a nice little draw on the irons, but on my hybrids in particular, has to be called a hook. I am doing my best to make sure the club is sitting flat on the ground, face to target and club centre stance. What I feel at impact is hands and club face turning over, just through the centrifical force of a swing. Any thoughts? Unfortunately in Australia we have no one to approach about this method. Thanks again, great seminar, Maneul would be proud.
Hello Ian, to produce a curved ball flight (draw/hook in your case), the club must impact the ball in a manner that shifts the axis of rotation from being parallel to the ground to the axis leaning left (for right-handers). Shifting the axis to the left can result from: 1) the ball above the feet, 2) playing the ball well forward in the stance, and 3) from an imbalanced grip. Based on your description, it seems as though your curvature is the result of #3. Here is a link to my video on the grip ( th-cam.com/video/7LCU6AgP298/w-d-xo.html ). Take a look and do some experimenting. An interlocking grip is often the culprit of having one or both hands rotated too far to the right. I am a fan of the 10-finger grip. If you are interested in instrucitonal videos here is the link for my channel: th-cam.com/channels/AEGsro5bKTSibrvf4uQpfg.html
Congratulations on a great video. I had questions about the two dowels with a string across to practice with a 4 iron, etc. How far in front of you do recommend placing the 2 dowels and string? Thanks for making your great instruction videos available.
Paul, the rods and rope should be about 10 feet forward of the ball. For you to have this work optimally, have a mentsl picture the ball going under the rope DURING the swing.
Karl, always happy to answer questions. If you have a specific question about the setup let me know and I'll respond via email. If you want to discuss and learn the setup, we should schedule an online lesson via Zoom. $75
This is a re-telling of Ernest Jones, Manuel de la Torre, Bob Brue et al. Nice to see because it works. Don’t watch it all but hope you give them credit at the end. It’s their original content. Ernest actually.
I have no problem with the full shots because it's a swing over the right and left shoulder with brushing the grass in the middle. It's the half and three quarter shots where I'm lost because I have no set place to take the club. Please help.
Eric, this is a great topic and the answer will help youor full swing accuracy too. Begin with using a ball (basketball, soccer ball, etc.). Next you need to set up a practice grid. Establsih a defined target line (eg. the grout lines on a tile floor, the center seam down your driveway) at least ten paces long. Place an object at one end of the line (eg. a chair, golf bag, etc.). You then stand at the other end with your feet parallel to the target line and about two feet from the line. Now make a two-handed, side-arm toss to the target. Repeat this making tosses and just making the motion with the ball. Observe the backswing and develop a sense of how the backswing is target related. This backswing is the same for your golf. Alternate between ball toss and partial golf swings. Toss to other targets and notice how your brain adjusts the bacswing to those targets.
I'm a club focused player but disagree with you saying a good shot doesn't feel much different than a bad one. Also disagree with clubs being engineered to be able to use the same swing with every club. They all need a little different adjustment at address in order to feel the same and be balanced in the swing. If you do the same thing with every club then some will produce good shots and the others will be bad. I can prove it too. Just look at how everyone goes through a round and maybe they did good with driver that day but bad with mid irons. Or maybe they did good with long irons but bad with wedges. Ppl struggle with producing good shots with all the clubs and I know exactly why. And it has nothing to do with body positions
I'm a club-focused player but disagree with you saying a good shot doesn't feel much different than a bad one. **Dustin, a good shot "feels" very different than a bad one. My intended point was that most players are not absolutely clear on what the critical difference was between their good shot and their bad one. Further, when you do "feel" a good shot with a seven iron, it is very unrealistic that you can remember "that" feel three holes later. Also disagree with clubs being engineered to be able to use the same swing with every club. They all need a little different adjustment at address in order to feel the same and be balanced in the swing. **Manufacturers use the same robot to test every club. It makes the identical swing for each with the only alteration being the lie angle and the distance the rubber tee is set on which they place the ball. If you do the same thing with every club then some will produce good shots and the others will be bad. I can prove it too. Just look at how everyone goes through a round and maybe they did good with driver that day but bad with mid irons. Or maybe they did good with long irons but bad with wedges. **The best players in the world can produce a good shot with a five iron and on the next hole produce a bad shot with a seven iron. It has nothing to do with the change of clubs but that their swing with the seven was not the same as the five. I have taught players for 30 years to make the same swing with the dirver as they do with the wedge. They are relieved to embrace the uniformity and play with higher confidence and consistency.
@EdLeBeauCFIinstructor I'm aware of who you are and what your teaching stems from. And that's the only reason I'm here. Because your a club focused instructor. So let's focus on the club for a minute. I think we could both agree that a robot is a terrible way to test clubs. Why? Because a robot doesn't lose balance or tempo like we do. Further more, we are all different and lose balance differently. If I walk up and push you, your going to automatically move to catch your balance and afterwards you will have no clue how your body parts moved to catch your balance. If I push the guy next to you, his body will move to catch his balance but he will move differently than you did. So what I'm trying to say is that swing flaws happen because the club isn't balanced in the swing. Our body's are simply responding to the club being out of balance. When the club is balanced in the swing, newtons 3rd law of motion goes into affect and perfect impact/ swing path is going to certainly happen along with every muscle in the body working the same amount. (Which is very little). There is no one muscle working harder than the others in a balanced swing. So now the question becomes, how do you balance any club I hand you? Standard lie, 2° up, 3° flat, hosel offset or none, C9 swing weight or E3... doesn't matter. Can you balance it and produce repeatable shots?
@@dustingray4072 Dustin, intellectual discussions of the golf swing are too few so I appreciate your assessment of my instruction. With regard to robotic testing, I disagree that it is "terrible". The purpose of the testing is to determine that the club "can" produce the desired effect when used in a specific manner. If you observe the robots the do what any golf can do and what every golfer would be wise to do. However, humans will never be as consistent as a robot. While our balance will fail us from time to time as will other aspects of the swing, none of the necessities are beyond our abilities as is evidence by the wonderful shots that we can produce and the frequency of them relative to our understanding and our practice. I am not adequately knowledgable about Newtons 3rd law to agree or disagree with your proposition. What I can confirm is that what I learned from Manuel de la Torre proved successful for his students (PGA, LPGA, Champions Tour, and amateurs). Further, teaching for 30 years, I routinely find players greatly relieved by this easy to understand and execute process for producing effective golf swings. With regard to "balancing the club", I am not sure of what you are intending to describe. What I can say is that I can easily produce shots with any and all of the clubs players bring to school. Will some clubs fit me better and enable better shot, of course. But it is relatively easy to adapt to a variety of clubs. There are many logical assertions that can and are made about the golf swing. But as the saying goes, "the proof of the pudding is in the tasting"and the CFI approach we suggest in this video has proven itself for over 100 years.
I hope you don't think I'm picking on the CFI method. I have read Ernest Jones book and Manuel de LaTorre book. They are great to get people started on the right path. I just took my study of the swing further. And also did allot of study on some of the greatest players to find a common denominator between all of them. Lee Trevino, Ben Hogan, Seve Ballesteros, Johnny Miller, Moe Norman, Sam Sneed, Count Yogi, Arnold Palmer and many more. So many great players with visually different looking swings. Anyways, thanks for your time. I may start a TH-cam channel some day to share the results of my study.
@@dustingray4072 I think conscientious discussions of the golf swing are always helpful. With regard to walking, many different ways to get from here to there. With regard to writing, many ways to hold the pencil and posture. With regard to swinging the golf club, there are an infinite variety we can see on tour let alone with amateurs. Club-focused instruction does not attempt to resolve which of those motions is best. Instead, CFI addresses the question of what is required to send the ball straight on a normal (club-produced) trajectory. From this perspective, we move from the "subjective" (individual style/preference) to the "objective" of what happens in such shots. Four things happen whether is Arnold, Sam, Jack, Tiger, you, or me: 1) the ball is contacted by the center of the clubface, 2) the clubface is perpendicular to the target line at impact, 3) the path of the swing is along (parallel) to the target line, and 4) the club imparts enough speed to propel the ball the needed distance. Those are the four fundamentals at the core of CFI. Our curriculum is designed to make producing those four as simple as possible and identical for each club in the bag.
Watched Manuel's 1987 golf clinic and bought his book, Understanding the Golf Swing. I couldn't believe how simple his concept was, 90 per cent of my shots are down the fairway, my handicap has dropped at least 5 shots in the last year, Golf is fun to play now.
when we learn to use the tool, golf gets manageable.
Thanks Ed for making this available. Great presentation.
The most complete golf introduction video I've ever seen. Even in question time, you repeated the questions then gave a clear answer how to remedy the problem
share this with your golfing friends-they will probably find it helpful and something they'll want to talk about
I attended Ed's Golf School last summer with my brother. I made a little progress during the school as I was learning his (and Manuel del la Torre's) simplified approach to golf, but my real breakthrough came when I went home and grooved my swing with those 4 simple fundamentals. Now my golf balls are nearly all going where I aim them(!), I have just one swing thought instead of 7, and my shots now feel like throwing darts at a target. Thanks again Ed!
hello Don
kudos on your progress. click the share button on the video and let your golfing buddies get in the know
Excellent Edward, just what I needed to hear after being in a mess for a number of months.
share this with your golfing friends...it could help them too.
@@EdLeBeauCFIinstructor will do, that baseball grip in particular is a revelation.
thanks for sharing this! wonderful. It was also nice that he spoke quickly and gave us a lot of infor in less than 45minutes
Great seminar! Content and delivery were spot on.
I had a strong grip that required manipulation to hit straight. The neutral grip requires no manipulation or thought and i can hit more square and more on center and further. I am so grateful that I stumbled onto you. I wish I encountered you sooner. Any beginning golfers I encounter will be directed to your videos. Thanks.
Congrats on pursuing your golf and exploring new ideas. Glad our presentation improves your enjoyment of the game. Ed
Greetings...Hopefully the Golf Expo is going/went well for you Ed. You really have a presence when your talking in front of other's. I thank you for the legacy of other's whom this knowledge lives on.
Thank you Ed.
Thank you Manuel.
Thank you Angel.
Thank you Earnest.
share this with your golfing friends...it could help them too.
Actually shaved ten strokes the next day after watching this video. No joke.
I find it always remarkable when we combine a person's physical ability with a more effective understanding of setup and swing. Congrats on your progress. Practice conscientiously.
Thanks Ed. Only discovered Earnest Jones a few months ago and then through research, Manuel De La Torre. I have both their books and watch the De La Torre videos regularly. A shame it took so long as Maneul was being inducted into the golf Hall of Fame around the time I started playing and I saw no mention of this concept. I am now 64 and playing some of the best and most consistant golf I have ever played, just by swinging the golf club and no other thoughts. Thanks for a great seminar which explains the concepts. Since adopting these principals I have developed a nice little draw on the irons, but on my hybrids in particular, has to be called a hook. I am doing my best to make sure the club is sitting flat on the ground, face to target and club centre stance. What I feel at impact is hands and club face turning over, just through the centrifical force of a swing. Any thoughts? Unfortunately in Australia we have no one to approach about this method. Thanks again, great seminar, Maneul would be proud.
Hello Ian, to produce a curved ball flight (draw/hook in your case), the club must impact the ball in a manner that shifts the axis of rotation from being parallel to the ground to the axis leaning left (for right-handers). Shifting the axis to the left can result from: 1) the ball above the feet, 2) playing the ball well forward in the stance, and 3) from an imbalanced grip. Based on your description, it seems as though your curvature is the result of #3. Here is a link to my video on the grip ( th-cam.com/video/7LCU6AgP298/w-d-xo.html ). Take a look and do some experimenting. An interlocking grip is often the culprit of having one or both hands rotated too far to the right. I am a fan of the 10-finger grip. If you are interested in instrucitonal videos here is the link for my channel: th-cam.com/channels/AEGsro5bKTSibrvf4uQpfg.html
Thanks Ed, will work on that and let you know.@@EdLeBeauCFIinstructor
@@ianmcmillan2634 guaranteed results. practice conscientiously
Will do. Thanks again@@EdLeBeauCFIinstructor
Congratulations on a great video. I had questions about the two dowels with a string across to practice with a 4 iron, etc. How far in front of you do recommend placing the 2 dowels and string? Thanks for making your great instruction videos available.
Paul, the rods and rope should be about 10 feet forward of the ball. For you to have this work optimally, have a mentsl picture the ball going under the rope DURING the swing.
@@EdLeBeauCFIinstructor Thanks Ed. I forgot to ask how high off the ground should the rope be? 1 ft? 2? Thx.
@@paullukawski7130 knee high
Love this-can anyone explain the set-up?
Karl, always happy to answer questions. If you have a specific question about the setup let me know and I'll respond via email. If you want to discuss and learn the setup, we should schedule an online lesson via Zoom. $75
Most definitely! I’d like to schedule a Zoom lesson-perhaps sometime after Thanksgiving and before Christmas or whatever it’s your schedule?
Call after the Thanksgiving holiday to schedule. 314 453 0705@@KarlEBrand
This is a re-telling of Ernest Jones, Manuel de la Torre, Bob Brue et al. Nice to see because it works. Don’t watch it all but hope you give them credit at the end. It’s their original content. Ernest actually.
I am always giving credit to Manuel in every lesson. I created the Wikipedia pages for Manuel, Ernest, and Angel.
I have no problem with the full shots because it's a swing over the right and left shoulder with brushing the grass in the middle. It's the half and three quarter shots where I'm lost because I have no set place to take the club. Please help.
Eric, this is a great topic and the answer will help youor full swing accuracy too. Begin with using a ball (basketball, soccer ball, etc.). Next you need to set up a practice grid. Establsih a defined target line (eg. the grout lines on a tile floor, the center seam down your driveway) at least ten paces long. Place an object at one end of the line (eg. a chair, golf bag, etc.). You then stand at the other end with your feet parallel to the target line and about two feet from the line. Now make a two-handed, side-arm toss to the target. Repeat this making tosses and just making the motion with the ball. Observe the backswing and develop a sense of how the backswing is target related. This backswing is the same for your golf. Alternate between ball toss and partial golf swings. Toss to other targets and notice how your brain adjusts the bacswing to those targets.
@@edlebeau6763 Did you mean to say perpendicular to the line?
your feet and shoulders are parallel
@@edlebeau6763 Got it! It may be a topic for a new video from you. Thank you!
Love it
glad you found it helpful
you can watch our other videos on TH-cam.
send your email and I'll add you to our weekly email tips
When someone tries to tell me what I don't know about my golf swing.
?? I'm not sure what you are indicating
manuel de la torre couldnt relate this better
share this with your golfing friends...it could help them too.
I'm a club focused player but disagree with you saying a good shot doesn't feel much different than a bad one. Also disagree with clubs being engineered to be able to use the same swing with every club. They all need a little different adjustment at address in order to feel the same and be balanced in the swing. If you do the same thing with every club then some will produce good shots and the others will be bad. I can prove it too. Just look at how everyone goes through a round and maybe they did good with driver that day but bad with mid irons. Or maybe they did good with long irons but bad with wedges. Ppl struggle with producing good shots with all the clubs and I know exactly why. And it has nothing to do with body positions
I'm a club-focused player but disagree with you saying a good shot doesn't feel much different than a bad one.
**Dustin, a good shot "feels" very different than a bad one. My intended point was that most players are not absolutely clear on what the critical difference was between their good shot and their bad one. Further, when you do "feel" a good shot with a seven iron, it is very unrealistic that you can remember "that" feel three holes later.
Also disagree with clubs being engineered to be able to use the same swing with every club. They all need a little different adjustment at address in order to feel the same and be balanced in the swing.
**Manufacturers use the same robot to test every club. It makes the identical swing for each with the only alteration being the lie angle and the distance the rubber tee is set on which they place the ball.
If you do the same thing with every club then some will produce good shots and the others will be bad. I can prove it too. Just look at how everyone goes through a round and maybe they did good with driver that day but bad with mid irons. Or maybe they did good with long irons but bad with wedges.
**The best players in the world can produce a good shot with a five iron and on the next hole produce a bad shot with a seven iron. It has nothing to do with the change of clubs but that their swing with the seven was not the same as the five. I have taught players for 30 years to make the same swing with the dirver as they do with the wedge. They are relieved to embrace the uniformity and play with higher confidence and consistency.
@EdLeBeauCFIinstructor I'm aware of who you are and what your teaching stems from. And that's the only reason I'm here. Because your a club focused instructor. So let's focus on the club for a minute. I think we could both agree that a robot is a terrible way to test clubs. Why? Because a robot doesn't lose balance or tempo like we do. Further more, we are all different and lose balance differently. If I walk up and push you, your going to automatically move to catch your balance and afterwards you will have no clue how your body parts moved to catch your balance. If I push the guy next to you, his body will move to catch his balance but he will move differently than you did. So what I'm trying to say is that swing flaws happen because the club isn't balanced in the swing. Our body's are simply responding to the club being out of balance. When the club is balanced in the swing, newtons 3rd law of motion goes into affect and perfect impact/ swing path is going to certainly happen along with every muscle in the body working the same amount. (Which is very little). There is no one muscle working harder than the others in a balanced swing. So now the question becomes, how do you balance any club I hand you? Standard lie, 2° up, 3° flat, hosel offset or none, C9 swing weight or E3... doesn't matter. Can you balance it and produce repeatable shots?
@@dustingray4072 Dustin, intellectual discussions of the golf swing are too few so I appreciate your assessment of my instruction. With regard to robotic testing, I disagree that it is "terrible". The purpose of the testing is to determine that the club "can" produce the desired effect when used in a specific manner. If you observe the robots the do what any golf can do and what every golfer would be wise to do. However, humans will never be as consistent as a robot. While our balance will fail us from time to time as will other aspects of the swing, none of the necessities are beyond our abilities as is evidence by the wonderful shots that we can produce and the frequency of them relative to our understanding and our practice.
I am not adequately knowledgable about Newtons 3rd law to agree or disagree with your proposition. What I can confirm is that what I learned from Manuel de la Torre proved successful for his students (PGA, LPGA, Champions Tour, and amateurs). Further, teaching for 30 years, I routinely find players greatly relieved by this easy to understand and execute process for producing effective golf swings.
With regard to "balancing the club", I am not sure of what you are intending to describe. What I can say is that I can easily produce shots with any and all of the clubs players bring to school. Will some clubs fit me better and enable better shot, of course. But it is relatively easy to adapt to a variety of clubs.
There are many logical assertions that can and are made about the golf swing. But as the saying goes, "the proof of the pudding is in the tasting"and the CFI approach we suggest in this video has proven itself for over 100 years.
I hope you don't think I'm picking on the CFI method. I have read Ernest Jones book and Manuel de LaTorre book. They are great to get people started on the right path. I just took my study of the swing further. And also did allot of study on some of the greatest players to find a common denominator between all of them. Lee Trevino, Ben Hogan, Seve Ballesteros, Johnny Miller, Moe Norman, Sam Sneed, Count Yogi, Arnold Palmer and many more. So many great players with visually different looking swings. Anyways, thanks for your time. I may start a TH-cam channel some day to share the results of my study.
@@dustingray4072 I think conscientious discussions of the golf swing are always helpful. With regard to walking, many different ways to get from here to there. With regard to writing, many ways to hold the pencil and posture. With regard to swinging the golf club, there are an infinite variety we can see on tour let alone with amateurs.
Club-focused instruction does not attempt to resolve which of those motions is best. Instead, CFI addresses the question of what is required to send the ball straight on a normal (club-produced) trajectory. From this perspective, we move from the "subjective" (individual style/preference) to the "objective" of what happens in such shots. Four things happen whether is Arnold, Sam, Jack, Tiger, you, or me: 1) the ball is contacted by the center of the clubface, 2) the clubface is perpendicular to the target line at impact, 3) the path of the swing is along (parallel) to the target line, and 4) the club imparts enough speed to propel the ball the needed distance.
Those are the four fundamentals at the core of CFI. Our curriculum is designed to make producing those four as simple as possible and identical for each club in the bag.