You can get the best discounts on these devices by clicking these links! SnoreX Plus: www.sleepfoundation.org/go/snorerx-plus-best-anti-snoring-mouthpieces-and-mouthguards-yt SleepTight Mouthpiece: www.sleepfoundation.org/go/sleeptight-mouthpiece-best-anti-snoring-mouthpieces-and-mouthguards-yt Good Morning Snore Solution: www.sleepfoundation.org/go/good-morning-snore-solution-best-anti-snoring-mouthpieces-and-mouthguards-yt ZQuiet Mouthguard: www.sleepfoundation.org/go/zquiet-anti-snoring-mouthpiece-best-anti-snoring-mouthpieces-and-mouthguards-yt VitalSleep Mouthguard: www.sleepfoundation.org/go/vitalsleep-anti-snoring-mouthpiece-best-anti-snoring-mouthpieces-and-mouthguards-yt
It would have been better to tell us after using it for few nights and tell the reality of which one is the best in terms of it’s comfort and performance
I have extensively used the SnoreRX and the Vital Sleep. They are very similar, fully adjustable, moldable devices. Both work, but you have to get use to sleeping with something substantial in your mouth. The Vital Sleep has a small version for someone with a smaller bite which worked better for me. The Snore RX will last up to a year when the Vital Sleep will last up to two years. Been using MAD devices for over 10 years. I am absolutely dependent on their use for a good night sleep. In other words, they work…
I bought the ZQuiet and while it did work it was really uncomfortable. Luckily I found out my dentist made snore guards from “Silent Night”. They take professional molds and measurements of your jaw and make you a custom snore Goard. While it is really pricey, it fits perfect and I have stopped snoring for my wife. 😊
Issue with these is that none come with a mouth piece that fixes your jaw back in place in the morning like if you go get a mad done at a dentist or specialist they usually include a piece to wear for like 5mins after you take the mad off
- I’ve used the Vital Sleep for over a year and have no complaints. It’s thicker than a simple mouth guard but I got used to it quickly. And no more snoring.
I've tried this type of anti-snoring devices. The fact that it brings the jaw forward seems like a good idea... But.... at one point, the joint of the jaw really hurts. So I stopped using these devices. It is not normal to have your jaw pushed forward like this. I think that in the long term, it could have a bad impact on the joint of the jaw. Just be aware of this.
I've used pure sleep for years. Works wonders but I had a sore jaw for about 2 years. My lower jaw is not in the same place anymore. Almost have an underbite now but I'm used to it now. I don't have an underbite all the time tho, really just when I'm lying on my back. I've tried convincing people to get it because I snored like a train and now nothing. Most will try but didn't like the sore jaw. I have mild sleep apnea and it stopped that. I sleep great now. I think I'll try vital sleep now. Just to try to move my jaw back a bit. The pure sleep is pretty much set after you boil it. The vital sleep looks like u boiling and can still adjust it. So I'll try to adjust back to as normal as I can get my jaw. 1 mm at a time. Hope this helps someone. My wife says it's a miracle worker. Lol One of the downfalls is I can't sleep without it now. So I have to take it everywhere.
Update. Been using vital sleep for close to 2 months. It's comfortable, but I'm sure after 2 years of pure sleep, it's just my jaw being used to things. Vital sleep works great. However, my wife says I still snore a little. Nothing that bugs her at all she said. But with pure sleep, I didn't snore at all. I do find my vital sleep doesn't move my jaw as far back as the pure sleep. Even though i have it adjusted as far back as it can go. So comfort: vital sleep is better. For effectiveness: pure sleep wins. Both are good tho.
I think the most frustrating thing is finding a place that doesn't have bad reviews. I will see a place that has potential and then when I do some research it all goes down hill. I don't want to waste my time and I do not want to be treated like im a cash cow. I just want to stop my snoring in the easiest way possible. I am thinking of getting one of these on Amazon to see how it works.
My husband needs this he snores and grinds teeth. Sounds like something he would like to try! Thats great you can try it for a month I think the 1st one is the best one for him.
Curious that a device to eliminate the tongue blocking the airway would recommend you not sleep on your back (recommends-side or stomach positions). If I could sleep in those positions I wouldn’t need their device. Please review ZQuiet and vital sleep. Loved this video, informative!
I tried the SnoreX earlier this year. Definitely stopped the snoring, but stretched my jaw so far open that I could no longer chew food and it gave me tmj. I had to toss it.
@@ctnicetune141the settings really have nothing to do with how much the appliance stretches your mouth open. They are more for how far forward it pushes your jaw .
I tried the tongue stabilizer, didn't work at all. It made be drool something terrible, drool runs all over pillow and side of your face for on side sleeper and choking drool if on back. Those jaw position devices aren'[t good in the long run as they will reposition your teeth outwards over the long run. and short run will make your jaws or tongue sore the next day
True i’ve tried both as well. The tongue holder doesn’t hold through the night. The jaw holder shifted my right side teeth/molars after 5 months of use…
I think ZQuiet may be good since it gives some flexiblity for the mouth to move, so should be easier to swallow saliva. I tried the one like VitalSleep but it is so uncomfortable especially hard to swallow saliva. However, I do when wearing it does open up my airway properly so it might help you breath through your nose except the difficulty when swallowing saliva part really makes me dislike the device.
I bite down on the corner of a wash cloth and wear a neck collar and sleep with my head up . that configuration keeps the jaw shut as my teeth are holding my lower jaw forward. After about 2 hrs of sleep I wake up and find that i've slid more flat and have to get my head more forward. This results in a sore neck but its the only way I've found to get airflow and be somewhat comfortable . oh, and i use cpap. It's all about the lower teeth. must be hard for ppl with no teeth.
It would be great for you to review Blue Sleep, which provides a customized device based on a dental scan. Obviously will be the pricest option, but interested in hearing your review on the whole Blue Sleep process. I just completed my 3 day sleep eval with the Night Owl device through them, and the next steps are to get fitted for a device and determine insurance cost coverage. Depending how much my insurance covers, I'll go with a customized device or a "boil and bite" device that is cheaper.
Mouth tape at night and even during the day to remind you to breathe through your nose. Obviously you'd do this in private normally while at home, lol But it will completely change your life and eventually your lungs, fatigue issues, and eventually the shape of your face.
Start with two or three stripe of blue 3m medical tape so you can still breathe through your mouth a bit and eventually you'll just tape your mouth completely and be fine. It's not nearly as dangerous or scary as you'd think when done correctly. And it will COMPLETELY change your life.
I've never heard of this before! I wish I'd known about these when I was with my ex! Also wish you'd do a review on mouthguards for people who grind or clench their teeth at night.
I bought the mouth thay you need to mold in dhot water.. Problem is.mi feel like i physicly need to keep biting for the entire duration its in ny mouth I mean, if i dont try, my mouth just opens up and it dosent have any effect
Is there any in particular you'd recommend for someone with a small mouth and a big overbite? My dentist has recommended I get one but I just find them really painful
do these aids put too much pressure on your teeth? meaning over time that having them put pressure against your teeth each night eventually start to shift your teeth?
hi, will this help for me that i don’t snore, rather i do suction between tongue and mouth palate all night when sleeping and when i wake up, it really hurts swallowing. Any help would be appreciated. i made a appointment with the doctor, they said its not normal and he doesnt know about it
Mold before adjustment, to make sure your teeth are sitting center to the mold. Beware though, these devices that hold your jaw in place depend on your teeth to hold it in place, obviously. You will see teeth shifting/tipping over time. I used one daily for about 5 months as I was seeing 0 snoring recordings throughout the whole night, only to realize that my bottom right teeth/molars were shifting 😢
You need to go to your pcp and explain your symptoms. Ask for a referral to a sleep study and ask for an ekg to see if u have developed any hypertrophy on the right side of your heart. You will do an at home sleep study, which is a screening exam. If it shows you do have apnea you will likely go in for a formal sleep study overnight. The science/medicine they do in that sleep study is very impressive as they don't just look to see if you have apnea. So you will then get an rx a cpap machine. Then the hard part starts as it is profoundly odd and uncomfortable for many. Often times you just need to go in to get the pressures calibrated. If you never tolerate a cpap there are certainly other options - actually including minor surgery, which is not uncommon as a lot of people never tolerate a cpap. I am a physician who has gone through this process (in the usa), so hopefully this helps you understand what to expect. The process is both a pain in the ass and very routine, but i recommend you look up cardiac hypertrophy - right sided - to understand that the increase in pressure in your lungs leads to increase in pressure on the right side of the heart, which then grows or hypertrophies. With enough stretching of the r side of the heart one can develop arthymias, but more often heart attacks. Reggie white died from this exact process in his early 50's.
Can you get this without waiting to be tested ? or get prescribed by your doctor, I live in Manitoba and the waiting time to get tested for sleep apnoea is ridiculous because of how bad the Canadian healthcare system is
AdaptHealth charges you An arm and a leg for CPAP, plus it's now become a hassle with that machine and mask. am over weight so Inspire not an option. I am gonna order a mouth piece. I'll let you all know. thanks for video
Top picks based on reviews please No one cares if it’s blue or neon as long as it reduces snoring significantly I felt like I was watching the home shopping network
Do you guys actually use these products before you make these reviews? I can’t take your advice seriously if you even have the Z Quiet on you list. Worst device I’ve ever used.
None of these “devices” / “solutions” work to resolve snoring or sleep apnea as claimed. Very very light to low low moderate results if any. And that is most likely because you aren’t actually in a deep sleep when using these devices 😂
Horrible review. Looks like the these 2 got into a fight before the video and had to force their way through the review. The dianamics between these 2 didn't work at all. The girl was even less interested than than guy
I have a mouth guard. It did stop /lesson my snoring. But it really hurts my teeth. Possibly from trying to grind my teeth. But it got to the Point that I stopped wearing it because my teeth hurt so much and felt lose in the morning
Yah it probably wont. ALL of the food and water you have consumed in the last 30 years can, though, so sleep well with that knowledge. Doesn't matter if you grow it yourself or buy it from whole foods. It is everywhere.
You can get the best discounts on these devices by clicking these links!
SnoreX Plus: www.sleepfoundation.org/go/snorerx-plus-best-anti-snoring-mouthpieces-and-mouthguards-yt
SleepTight Mouthpiece: www.sleepfoundation.org/go/sleeptight-mouthpiece-best-anti-snoring-mouthpieces-and-mouthguards-yt
Good Morning Snore Solution: www.sleepfoundation.org/go/good-morning-snore-solution-best-anti-snoring-mouthpieces-and-mouthguards-yt
ZQuiet Mouthguard: www.sleepfoundation.org/go/zquiet-anti-snoring-mouthpiece-best-anti-snoring-mouthpieces-and-mouthguards-yt
VitalSleep Mouthguard: www.sleepfoundation.org/go/vitalsleep-anti-snoring-mouthpiece-best-anti-snoring-mouthpieces-and-mouthguards-yt
It would have been better to tell us after using it for few nights and tell the reality of which one is the best in terms of it’s comfort and performance
I know….This was just Sales
I have extensively used the SnoreRX and the Vital Sleep. They are very similar, fully adjustable, moldable devices. Both work, but you have to get use to sleeping with something substantial in your mouth. The Vital Sleep has a small version for someone with a smaller bite which worked better for me. The Snore RX will last up to a year when the Vital Sleep will last up to two years. Been using MAD devices for over 10 years. I am absolutely dependent on their use for a good night sleep. In other words, they work…
I bought the ZQuiet and while it did work it was really uncomfortable. Luckily I found out my dentist made snore guards from “Silent Night”. They take professional molds and measurements of your jaw and make you a custom snore Goard. While it is really pricey, it fits perfect and I have stopped snoring for my wife. 😊
This like goes particularly to the hosts. They are very charismatic and gentle. Congrats!!! 👏
#1 fan! (of you)
I snore quite loudly and that prevents my wife from getting any sleep. This is good information of some of my options.
No more tossing and turning due to snoring! The Snorple mouthpiece is a must-try for anyone dealing with this problem.
Issue with these is that none come with a mouth piece that fixes your jaw back in place in the morning like if you go get a mad done at a dentist or specialist they usually include a piece to wear for like 5mins after you take the mad off
- I’ve used the Vital Sleep for over a year and have no complaints. It’s thicker than a simple mouth guard but I got used to it quickly. And no more snoring.
One time, I stayed up alllll night to see if I snore. I didn't snore! 😉
you are genius!
😂 you’re funny!
Lol
Einstein!
Brilliant I’ll try that
I've tried this type of anti-snoring devices. The fact that it brings the jaw forward seems like a good idea... But.... at one point, the joint of the jaw really hurts. So I stopped using these devices. It is not normal to have your jaw pushed forward like this. I think that in the long term, it could have a bad impact on the joint of the jaw. Just be aware of this.
I've used pure sleep for years. Works wonders but I had a sore jaw for about 2 years. My lower jaw is not in the same place anymore. Almost have an underbite now but I'm used to it now. I don't have an underbite all the time tho, really just when I'm lying on my back. I've tried convincing people to get it because I snored like a train and now nothing. Most will try but didn't like the sore jaw. I have mild sleep apnea and it stopped that. I sleep great now. I think I'll try vital sleep now. Just to try to move my jaw back a bit. The pure sleep is pretty much set after you boil it. The vital sleep looks like u boiling and can still adjust it. So I'll try to adjust back to as normal as I can get my jaw. 1 mm at a time. Hope this helps someone. My wife says it's a miracle worker. Lol One of the downfalls is I can't sleep without it now. So I have to take it everywhere.
Update. Been using vital sleep for close to 2 months. It's comfortable, but I'm sure after 2 years of pure sleep, it's just my jaw being used to things. Vital sleep works great. However, my wife says I still snore a little. Nothing that bugs her at all she said. But with pure sleep, I didn't snore at all. I do find my vital sleep doesn't move my jaw as far back as the pure sleep. Even though i have it adjusted as far back as it can go. So comfort: vital sleep is better. For effectiveness: pure sleep wins. Both are good tho.
How much did they pay you?
@columbusohio72 absolutely nothing. Move on to.other things if you don't like reading reviews loser
I think the most frustrating thing is finding a place that doesn't have bad reviews. I will see a place that has potential and then when I do some research it all goes down hill. I don't want to waste my time and I do not want to be treated like im a cash cow. I just want to stop my snoring in the easiest way possible. I am thinking of getting one of these on Amazon to see how it works.
Did you get it? What’s your review?
nope I got a sleep study done and then got a CPAP. has been working great so far@@kevino3881
Corruption is a lack of negative, you can look at education department or scientific community
@@kevino3881 i ended up getting a CPAP and that actually worked so i recommend going that route
My husband needs this he snores and grinds teeth. Sounds like something he would like to try! Thats great you can try it for a month I think the 1st one is the best one for him.
Curious that a device to eliminate the tongue blocking the airway would recommend you not sleep on your back (recommends-side or stomach positions). If I could sleep in those positions I wouldn’t need their device. Please review ZQuiet and vital sleep. Loved this video, informative!
Imma side and stomach sleeper and I still snore.
I tried the SnoreX earlier this year. Definitely stopped the snoring, but stretched my jaw so far open that I could no longer chew food and it gave me tmj. I had to toss it.
Oh that's good feedback!
@@SleepIsTheFoundation If you know of a mouthpiece that doesn't keep your mouth so far open, I would appreciate the suggestion.
Even on the 0 setting?
@@ctnicetune141the settings really have nothing to do with how much the appliance stretches your mouth open. They are more for how far forward it pushes your jaw .
Is there any empirical evidence of how well these items actually work?
Which one if I’m a mouth breather due to sinusitis?
I tried the tongue stabilizer, didn't work at all. It made be drool something terrible, drool runs all over pillow and side of your face for on side sleeper and choking drool if on back. Those jaw position devices aren'[t good in the long run as they will reposition your teeth outwards over the long run. and short run will make your jaws or tongue sore the next day
True i’ve tried both as well. The tongue holder doesn’t hold through the night. The jaw holder shifted my right side teeth/molars after 5 months of use…
Which one would be best for those that have TMJ syndrome?
I think ZQuiet may be good since it gives some flexiblity for the mouth to move, so should be easier to swallow saliva. I tried the one like VitalSleep but it is so uncomfortable especially hard to swallow saliva. However, I do when wearing it does open up my airway properly so it might help you breath through your nose except the difficulty when swallowing saliva part really makes me dislike the device.
I have a z quiet and it hurts my teeth quite a bit I just ordered a tongue retaining device
How do these work with retainers ?
I bite down on the corner of a wash cloth and wear a neck collar and sleep with my head up . that configuration keeps the jaw shut as my teeth are holding my lower jaw forward. After about 2 hrs of sleep I wake up and find that i've slid more flat and have to get my head more forward. This results in a sore neck but its the only way I've found to get airflow and be somewhat comfortable . oh, and i use cpap. It's all about the lower teeth. must be hard for ppl with no teeth.
It would be great for you to review Blue Sleep, which provides a customized device based on a dental scan. Obviously will be the pricest option, but interested in hearing your review on the whole Blue Sleep process. I just completed my 3 day sleep eval with the Night Owl device through them, and the next steps are to get fitted for a device and determine insurance cost coverage. Depending how much my insurance covers, I'll go with a customized device or a "boil and bite" device that is cheaper.
My husband could sure use this!!
Can we buy it by Amzone
The products in the add aren’t the products being shown in the video. I think they got them mixed up.
Where do i get/buy the snoreRX plus device
What company does the combo device come from?
Could you do one for mouth breathers.
Mouth tape at night and even during the day to remind you to breathe through your nose. Obviously you'd do this in private normally while at home, lol But it will completely change your life and eventually your lungs, fatigue issues, and eventually the shape of your face.
Start with two or three stripe of blue 3m medical tape so you can still breathe through your mouth a bit and eventually you'll just tape your mouth completely and be fine. It's not nearly as dangerous or scary as you'd think when done correctly. And it will COMPLETELY change your life.
@@GrooveisKingsome of us cannot breathe through our noses because of anatomy issues. I’d love to know a good one for mouth breathers
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I've tried a few but nothing really works all thru the night.
I've never heard of this before! I wish I'd known about these when I was with my ex! Also wish you'd do a review on mouthguards for people who grind or clench their teeth at night.
Just get one from your dentist, custom made
I bought the mouth thay you need to mold in dhot water..
Problem is.mi feel like i physicly need to keep biting for the entire duration its in ny mouth
I mean, if i dont try, my mouth just opens up and it dosent have any effect
I don’t snore but I’ve been told I do!!!😂
Is there any in particular you'd recommend for someone with a small mouth and a big overbite? My dentist has recommended I get one but I just find them really painful
Wow never seen these. Very interesting
do these aids put too much pressure on your teeth? meaning over time that having them put pressure against your teeth each night eventually start to shift your teeth?
100% screwed up my teeth
100% will mess your teeth up
It would help if you mentioned comfort and do they ever pop out when sleeping? Ugh.
hi, will this help for me that i don’t snore, rather i do suction between tongue and mouth palate all night when sleeping and when i wake up, it really hurts swallowing. Any help would be appreciated. i made a appointment with the doctor, they said its not normal and he doesnt know about it
How exactly does it move your tongue forward
I’ve tried some of these and most stick to your cheeks in the night causing sores
I never knew there was such a device!
What about the Dreamhero? Is this a scam?
Will these help with sleep apnea
I have a doubt. The boil and moulding should be done after adjustment of deaired mm or before?
Mold before adjustment, to make sure your teeth are sitting center to the mold. Beware though, these devices that hold your jaw in place depend on your teeth to hold it in place, obviously. You will see teeth shifting/tipping over time. I used one daily for about 5 months as I was seeing 0 snoring recordings throughout the whole night, only to realize that my bottom right teeth/molars were shifting 😢
I’m glad I don’t snore too bad for my husband because none of these look very comfortable.
I get sleep apnea and wake up gasping for air and heart starts racing need the best solution.
You need to get yourself a CPAP machine.
You need to go to your pcp and explain your symptoms. Ask for a referral to a sleep study and ask for an ekg to see if u have developed any hypertrophy on the right side of your heart. You will do an at home sleep study, which is a screening exam. If it shows you do have apnea you will likely go in for a formal sleep study overnight. The science/medicine they do in that sleep study is very impressive as they don't just look to see if you have apnea. So you will then get an rx a cpap machine. Then the hard part starts as it is profoundly odd and uncomfortable for many. Often times you just need to go in to get the pressures calibrated. If you never tolerate a cpap there are certainly other options - actually including minor surgery, which is not uncommon as a lot of people never tolerate a cpap. I am a physician who has gone through this process (in the usa), so hopefully this helps you understand what to expect. The process is both a pain in the ass and very routine, but i recommend you look up cardiac hypertrophy - right sided - to understand that the increase in pressure in your lungs leads to increase in pressure on the right side of the heart, which then grows or hypertrophies. With enough stretching of the r side of the heart one can develop arthymias, but more often heart attacks. Reggie white died from this exact process in his early 50's.
So which is the best ?!?!
Can you get this without waiting to be tested ? or get prescribed by your doctor, I live in Manitoba and the waiting time to get tested for sleep apnoea is ridiculous because of how bad the Canadian healthcare system is
You don't need a doctor's prescription for any of these; they are all available online direct from the brand's website!
Haha
This product can leave you victim to mouth rape when sleeping. Heard this info from a friend.
Thanks guys
I tried the snorex and it felt like I had a football in my mouth.
AdaptHealth charges you An arm and a leg for CPAP, plus it's now become a hassle with that machine and mask. am over weight so Inspire not an option. I am gonna order a mouth piece. I'll let you all know. thanks for video
Most snoring has to do with a reduced airway and the tongue. Sleep with your face downwards!
0:08 she’s not lying got me
Top picks based on reviews please
No one cares if it’s blue or neon as long as it reduces snoring significantly
I felt like I was watching the home shopping network
When are you announcing who won the bear hybrid elite mattress?
I used SnoreMender for years and no more snoring 😴 for me. Made in Germany
Definitely playing this gif my husband!
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It says snoring comes from relaxed tissues around the nose!! Wow!
I 😴 snore alot I need help 😭
Do you guys actually use these products before you make these reviews? I can’t take your advice seriously if you even have the Z Quiet on you list. Worst device I’ve ever used.
You know, my wife tells me that I snore when I'm tired. That is simply not true, but she does for sure.
None of these “devices” / “solutions” work to resolve snoring or sleep apnea as claimed. Very very light to low low moderate results if any. And that is most likely because you aren’t actually in a deep sleep when using these devices 😂
The perfect one would be on that advance your jaw, but keep your mouth closed! As mouth breath is a BIG NO NO!
Your insurance might for these.
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my God, in Islam we are suggested to sleep side/sleep stomach. it is called as sunnah....
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Please can I get one
Horrible review. Looks like the these 2 got into a fight before the video and had to force their way through the review. The dianamics between these 2 didn't work at all. The girl was even less interested than than guy
Yea shes not really into him. Its obvious.
So no real world use on these just advertising brands then.
No real world use?
Would been better to keep in your mouths longer with close ups. Popping them in for a few seconds was not helpful.
Won’t anti snoring devices put your jaw out of place and potentially weaken your jawline? It’s like anti mewing
In our experience, the adjustment is incredibly minor -- think millimeters -- so it shouldn't compromise your jawline.
I have a mouth guard. It did stop /lesson my snoring. But it really hurts my teeth. Possibly from trying to grind my teeth. But it got to the Point that I stopped wearing it because my teeth hurt so much and felt lose in the morning
These are all extremely uncomfortable…
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The best version of these devices are made custom for your mouth by your dentist
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Scare to swallow while l sleep.
None of these work! There's nothing to clamp onto your teeth so as soon as your mouth opens the top or bottom comes off defeating the purpose!
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Yea plastic in your mouth everyday for 8hrs surely this won’t effect your endocrine system.
This!
Yah it probably wont. ALL of the food and water you have consumed in the last 30 years can, though, so sleep well with that knowledge. Doesn't matter if you grow it yourself or buy it from whole foods. It is everywhere.
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wtf am i watching, this is the most shorthanded review of anything
I'm not a snorer. I can't handle snoring. That's probably why I sleep alone.
Probably a few things.
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