And/or their sons. Boys are no less vulnerable to predators. All children require and deserve the full protection of trustworthy adults in their lives.
I haven’t dated in 10 years since my divorce as I didn’t trust men around my then kids (now young adults) and being solo isn’t so bad. I don’t trust men around my autistic son who is 21 and shall never date as he is so vulnerable, believing and kind and easy to be taken advantage of. I also have to be careful with his support team and whom I chose to be around him. How sad is that? 😢
@@369blueneptune Absolutely 100%. I’m sure, hopefully this comment meant both boys and girls. My son was given more attention than normal from a swimming coach when he was young. Definitely both boys and girls and at risk.
I can't wait for the world to become increasingly trauma informed, because I just heard this teacher list off a bunch of trauma symptoms and then go "Nah, nothing unusual, just that she was quiet." Not the teacher's fault, but man... I'm ready for the world to become better at clocking these things. Ugh.
this. I was listening and went, Maddie was showing the same sign I was at almost the same age by going through a traumatizing event in my life. Failing a class in my eyes is also a cry for help, a cry for attention from adults.
AGreed. I must have exhibited so many trauma symptoms in my childhood and i was labelled a bit STRANGE by the teachers. But really speaking my so called strangeness was a constant cry for help. I was severely physically a**sed by my dad and my parents and entire family was in a sect. I carried a very heavy burden throughout my childhood, became a life long insomniac due to the constant fear and state of fight or flight adrenaline response state that i lived under continuously. Teachers SHOULD have acted somehow, but they didn't, even when i was forced to be weeks away from school on end due to my physical state after having been abused. Nobody ever did anything.
I think Jen’s constant criticism and harassment and negative attitude towards her daughter probably CAUSED Maddie’s bad attitude. That’s like kicking a dog, getting bit, and then blaming the dog for being bad.
@@kate_is_great you could say the same for every parent of an abused child. Of course the mother should protect the child. Goes without saying. However, she was not the actual perpetrator. She's appalling, he's a monster.
@@jonnylumberjack6223 I mean that’s definitely the main issue, but her mother certainly didn’t help she seemed to be resentful towards her own daughter.
Any child who willingly agrees and wants to go see the counselor multiple times because they’re sad or upset is not “normal” A well adjusted mentally healthy child is not going to want or request to talk to the school counselor voluntarily. That should have been a huge red flag 🚩 !!
yes, and mental health resources could be given to parents/ directed to the right agency for help. We have a program in our high school for kids to chat with some counselors-not just planning classes and schedules for each year. My dtr. sees a therapist occasionally that specializes in her diagnosis, but those who don’t have one may try the school resources first.
I am sorry to say this but I have no other words to say it differently : all the adults around Maddie were a complete failure, disconnected, self absorbed or plainly not informed to do their one job, and this goes for the teacher. For goodness sake, I am not a therapist but it was obvious there was something wrong with Maddie! It takes an inch of intelligence, empathy and perception. Listening to this makes me so upset. Everybody failed this child, I feel so sorry Maddie♥
Most, if not all abuse children that I have encountered, act out in negative ways. They are often trust in rules where they think that they are adults, and they become defiant trying to protect their inner child. These people gotta get over themselves and realize that this baby was sexually abused, emotionally abused, thrust in situations that she had no tools to handle, and you expect her to act polite, normal and coddled give me a break. How dare she or anyone speak out about the way Madeline reacted to the unforgiving circumstances, she was born into this makes me angry
I don't know if I would blame teachers; they're job is to educate children and if half the classroom is special needs, then that's a top bill to fill. Maddie was asking to go to counseling 4 times and so it's up to the behavioral health specialists to address concerns.
I thought the same thing. Not ONE of the adults that gave interviews about Maddie's disappearance sounded the least bit worried, shocked or sad. SO MANY negative things said about that beautiful girl. Nobody invested in her. Nobody cared. And also what is up with the negativity from the teachers hey if you don't like to be around kids and some kids are going to be troubled... If you find that to be annoying don't be a teacher!
This teacher hardly knew her. It seems like no one at school took the time/made the effort to see past the simplest observation. “ Quiet, zones out a lot , asks to see counselor , special Ed student, etc.” I don’t hear about communication with mother, either. Same for her grandmother, “she didn’t want to go home, she refused to go home, etc.” The adults demonstrated no insight or curiosity as to WHY she behaved so. The adults failed her miserably.
I work as a parttime teacher. I will see about 60 children a day. I cannot honestly blame teachers for missing signals. I try to be alert, but with so many children...
But out of that 60 how many needed more help? It doesn’t take a lot to be kind and to notice even if you can’t do a lot. This is my background too, and I saw way more than 60 and still managed. Every kid matters.
Exactly! Sometimes more kids. It is not the teachers fault. And a teen having attitude is not something to worry about. Jen is the one responsible. Not the teachers
@@JaneDoe-pw6iz we are all responsible for our children. It is a teacher’s duty. They are the guardian when the child is not at home. This is in the education act in Canada and I’m pretty sure in the United States. I can understand what you’re saying because it’s not always easy to pick up on every signa but the teachers clearly stated they saw the behaviours over a period of time. So they were picking up on the signals. One call may or may not have made a difference, but it certainly should’ve happened. It is your duty as a teacher to report any suspected concern. I think it’s a teacher’s responsibility to become familiar with the behavioural signs of said abuse. They are everywhere online and pamphlets, etc. if you’re going to work with children, that should be something you’re very familiar with. It’s like sending a child out in the middle of winter in freezing temperatures with no coat. The child didn’t bring a coat to school. But you know there’s no coat so are you going to just send that child out? Every child needs adults to look out for them, even if they’re 12 or 13 and their behaviours annoy you. It is 100% a sign of a problem to have such behaviour consistently over a period of time. The withdrawal depression, anxiety and failing grades I mean come on what more do you need? These are classic indicators of abuse. The absence of Mom coming to school?. I don’t understand how anyone could miss this? That’s all I’m saying because I hope someone will read this and change if they were ignoring such behaviors.. 🙏
Maddie’s teachers did nothing wrong here. She’s reporting her behavior. We all are looking at what she said with the facts of the case. A 13 year old zoning out in class that has Adhd (my child has that) that is a normal thing for him to do. WE KNOW Maddie was drugged the teacher DiD NOT KNOW THAT and would be legally required to report it if she suspected anything like that was happening. There is no reason to think the teachers knew this was going on and said nothing about it. other people in Maddies life have not been lying to the police except her mother.
Thank you so much for saying this! Took the words out of my mouth. Honestly, it's clear that this teacher cares by how carefully she was observing Maddie's behavior, and noticing changes. It's vital for her to be honest here. ❤
Agreed. The teachers have a LOT on their plates and we live in a great public school district. My dtr. W ADHD (2e)- she has a 504 plan, not an IEP-special Ed classes. 504s allow for accommodations in test taking and homework timing. She has struggled with the right meds and treatment since 5th. Poor grades in some classes, still struggling w focus at times. We are hands on in her treatment so she can be a fully independent adult someday. I don’t know if I would automatically think something was sinister, but with continued issues would contact the parents and go from there.
@@BeeCJ I don’t know her teachers so I can’t say one way or the other. But I listened to the interview with this one. Just to clarify it is the teacher’s job to teach and ensure her students are learning. All of the students, including and especially the students that are zoning out. It doesn’t matter that she didn’t know she was being drugged. She clearly identified a number of concerning behaviours that were interfering with the child’s learning. She even made it sound like it really wasn’t her role nor could she do anything about it. It was so depressing to hear a teacher seemingly care so little that she never reached out to do something. What I heard this teacher say was she was aware there was an IEP, or should have, and she hadn’t seen it? That’s a legal document in place to provide a student with specific strategies and accommodations based on a proven professional assessment that ensures the child has in place in order to be able to learn. Students who have an IEP require this in order to access the curriculum. It’s like if you can’t walk, you have to ensure the student’s has access to their wheelchair. If a child is hearing impaired you have to ensure a child’s hearing aid or device is worn and working. Obviously, the unseen needs are harder to understand, but a teacher is a professional who has to understand and put in place what is needed. Again it is her job! Further, teachers should be able to identify patterns of behaviours that are getting in the way of learning and know what to do. Such as the zoning out. There are clearly listed patterns of behaviours that indicate students are possibly being emotionally or psychologically abused. You can look them up in your local district. I know every single one of my teachers had them listed on their desk as a reminder. Most didn’t need it because they understood. Again, it is a teacher’s professional responsibility and obligation to our students to understand these things and what to do about it. If these behaviours are seen, and clearly they were, it is a legal responsibility for a teacher to report it to the appropriate agency. It’s not a choice. Also teachers act as guardians when children are at school. They are responsible for the safety of their students - that includes emotional safety. It doesn’t sound like Maddie was getting accommodations and strategies she that would have greatly helped her because she didn’t even know what the IEP said because she hadn’t read it. Maybe I heard that wrong but that’s what I thought I heard? Accommodations and strategies should be clearly understood by the teacher and in place for the student., it sounds complicated, but it’s actually pretty easy . When teaching any teacher knows how to provide certain strategies and accommodation that often benefit many students. So for example, you may be teaching how to solve a problem. Some students require visual aids as part of their IEP. So you, as a part of your teaching tools, provide that visual aid as a chart on the wall or perhaps individual sheets for a group of students that benefit. To be perfectly honest it really is just good teaching. It is not something you have to go over with the individual student and do separately. But you should be checking in with students who are struggling more frequently. That is very easy to build into your teaching program as well. One of the things I picked up on that may have been a part of her IEP I don’t no? But it is common for an IEP related to someone like Maddie, that buddy or a learning, buddy stays close to them, especially if they have anxiety. This teacher almost proudly talked about how she had to separate her from her friend. This may have been why her negative behaviours became more apparent and she is much as said this. The thing is if it helped her to have a study buddy or a learning, buddy with her and they needed redirection again that’s the teacher’s job. Lastly, I just want to point out if a student on an IEP, is still failing, not doing work struggling then then teacher should be meeting with the resource department or whoever takes care of special education and reviewing the IEP ASAP and examine why? You can’t just ignore it or say there’s not much you could do about it. Again, that’s your job! It’s like going to a hospital and being treated for cancer and a medical professional tells you well there’s not much we can do about it because we can’t find the medication you need. I have a long history in the classroom also was in charge of all the special education in my entire board for a long time was also a principal and served in many other capacities. So believe me when I tell you, I have nothing but respect for the teaching profession. Teachers have a tough job. However, it is their job. There are many amazing teachers out there. I just feel like in this specific case from what I heard during this interview that unfortunately this teacher did not appear to understand her role. I don’t blame her for what happened to Maddie, but I think i it was a missed opportunity that this poor little girl could’ve greatly benefitted from and it sickens me. The reason I am taking the time to say these things is because I’m really hoping that if another child is in this exact situation that this teacher or another teacher reading this or another adult will actually do something about it. You know when a child is struggling. We all know when a child is struggling. Do something about it. I can forgive just about anything, but I can never forgive giving up on a kid - especially a kid that clearly needed help.🙏
Considering she was a young girl that started her cycle at a early age (meaning she was already experiencing changes in hormones) and in the prime age for the “puberty” portion of her hormones to start forming at the point of when she was brutally assaulted and killed….i can see why she was Kind of rebelling….. however, she was expressing difficulties at home with some of her comments like “ wanting to run away and live in the woods to get away from her mother. IMO Jenn was jealous of her own daughter and her daughter unfortunately felt uncomfortable and didn’t trust her own mothers decision making. Jenn, and everyone around this little girl failed her! Other family members, teachers, counselors, Stephan’s parents ( because they knew about the sleeping arrangements) especially her own mother. No man or no other human being is more important than your children. Ppl are extremely sick in today’s world.
He may have convinced her that he loved her (and perhaps live somewhere as a couple) and that she felt comfortable enough with him to look for products for them as "parents".
It's not today's world - this kind of abuse has been going on forever. In the past it wouldn't have been captured on camera and it would've been more hidden.
@@sheelfjohnson correct…. And again in today’s world meaning recordings, predators can socialize online, they can connect… yes in today’s world…. Never did I say this never happened many years ago. Today’s world just makes it easier for them to do disgusting things.
So many so called " professionals " tick the boxes and diagnose the children. Not all of them are bad, some goes in depth of the child's life and can see the difference between the ptsd and special needs
@@benmanyaaam I don't think that true professionals tick the boxes and make a diagnosis. Each case is an individual and needs an individual approach. Trauma can affect a child's ability to learn, and sometimes it is not about the ability to learn but more about what other factors are at play x
7:53 currently she’s failing??? If maddie had an IEP, then educators should be keeping track of her and provide additional support. In other words, if the student is failing, then that means her educators were failing HER. This makes me upset!
It was weird when the teacher called it an "IP" like she had no idea what it was. That stood out to me, too. I always thought teachers would be in-the-know about those.
Not all the time. If a child is not doing their work/ not turning anything in even with support that is not the teacher's fault. The student needs to take some ownership.
All the teachers must follow a student’s IEP and meet with parents. Maddie would have been well-known to her teachers and would have involved the nurse and the counselor too. She was murdered in February and it seems no one on her campus was advocating for her. That is the job of an educator. In my opinion, too many adults failed her because no one took the lead. At the end of the day, Maddie was a child living a horrendous nightmare, and I will never blame her for failing or for having “an attitude”.
@@PenceliaMaddie had an IEP which means she needed extra support. The fact this teacher said on numerous occasions that Maddie kept 'zoning out' really bothered me. Add this that she was also failing to hand in any work, was getting upset in class, I just can't believe no alarm bells were going off. The fact we now know what this poor girl had been enduring for years I find it unbelievable that you're putting the failures onto her.
This young girl was being horrifically abused. I doubt she had the bandwidth to worry about keeping her room clean and being kind to people. I think anyone would become a compete shell of a human in her situation
OK I’ve listen to this thing twice. I don’t find it believable that somebody with a 15 year teaching history didn’t know what the name of an IEP was right off the top of her head when she did know that Maddie had some kind of learning disability. I’ll keep the rest of my thoughts about that to my self but I would like to say that given that the school was aware so it’s a known fact that Maddie did have a learning disability I hope Steven is charged accordingly for abuse of a vulnerable individual.
@@ErinAbouI do! 15 years experience and they all should know her IEP and where she requires more assistance and be having regular talks with the special ed instructor, even maybe the counselor, for any child pulling D’s routinely. You don’t have to be special ed to know your part in assisting this child and their IEP goals, etc.
@ this case has made my blood boil with how ridiculously ignorant and neglectful at the very so many of the grown azz adults were in her life. It’s as infuriating at Quinton Simon’s situation where his grandmother fought to get custody of the kids from Leilani saying she was a danger and abusive only to leave the kids with their abuser/“mom” and for months at a time, and she hasn’t been charged with her part and involvement in Quinton’s death.
What strikes me is that Maddie was a good girl but towards the last part of her life she was showing some attitude. It could have been hormones or something we don't know, as of yet. Just 13 years old how could people be so evil to take that little Souls innocence?! I can't give Mom a green light because she was responsible for the welfare & safety of Madeline!!! She put a man before her daughter!
How could anybody possibly assess a child that was potentially being drugged. Just because a mother said to a doctor that, oh she's acting this way or that way doesn't necessarily mean it was true. Think her mother had a hidden agenda there with the tablets and don't even get me started about the constipation 😡🤬
@luskentyre65 I agree 100% I used to be in charge of the entire special education and resources including ensuring teachers were following IEP’s for an entire board of education. No assessment should occur without the context of a child’s life. For example, if they’ve had a trauma, you can’t assess them as ADHD that is simply not reliable. Obviously, she had behaviours that were concerning and understandable given what we now know. Sadly, many of the doctors go with what the parents are telling them as they cannot see what really happens in the environment. They base their assessments on teacher and parent information. From my experience, we have many wonderful teachers. But unfortunately, we have teachers that do not follow what they need to follow or care enough to make the extra effort. They just want the kids drugged because they’re a problem in their mind. Sadly, this is the truth. I have experienced it too many times. I’m always grateful for those loving wonderful teachers that actually care about their students. If one teacher had carried enough and paid attention to this child and reported concerns it might have saved her life. 😔
I despise Jenn Soto. Stephan is a predator & he will prey, he needs some prison justice & then put down but Jenn, Jenn had one job - protect Madeline. Jenn knew what was going on & gained from it (IMO) She is not a dumb potato like some people see her. She is highly manipulative, sly & a bully. She was jealous of her own daughter in every way. She makes me sick. Rest in peace, sweet Maddie. Forever 13, loved around the world 🕊️🪽🤍
I have 3 children, 2 are girls. If I was ever to be apart from their father for any reason, I will not ever have another man around them. My dad raised my sister and I and never had a girlfriend because he said he wanted his attention to be on us.
@@sj9410 yes, it’s the first time I’ve watched this video. I was not insinuating I was the only person to think of it this. I was just expressing myself, apparently many others had as well. Sorry I didn’t have a new and exciting angle for ya.
Why would they have a shower chair in their closet when they are all perfectly able bodied? You see that in the closet on the left with the cleaning supplies sitting on top of it at 6:23/12:20 That raises alarm bells for me from all we now know. Chain lock on interior of his bedroom door, Room 4 and no one thought that was alarming he being the only one to have an interior chain lock door to keep people out when he (and Maddie!!!🤬) were inside?
Didn’t Jenn have back issues (or something similar) at some point? It doesn’t necessarily seem like an odd thing to hang onto, especially stored away in a closet.
Can you explain. bit more? As you’ve been an educator in this type of school, I’m curious to know how a situation like this would have affected you and/ or your colleagues.
So many teachers over looked my abuse and just saw it as “attitude” in middle school…. I had a teacher write “good luck” in my year book at the end of 8th grade.
Poor baby 😢😢😢 I really blame her mother!!! She had to of known what was happening !!! She did not protect Maddie!!!! You can't live with all this going on and not know!!! His underwear in Maddies room!!! 🤬😡😈👿😢😢😢
So many things I find disturbing….We have a seventh grader who was failing her class and had not turned in any assignments. Not one person in her life cared enough to hold Maddie accountable for her actions. Good or bad, she could do whatever she wanted. No wonder she was so vulnerable for grooming We cannot expect children to make the best choices when no one even cares enough to follows up on those decisions. No one even made sure she completed “in classroom” assignments. What in the world are we doing to our children?
Considering Maddie’s home, plus her attention deficit diagnosis and medication, I think she was heroic, able at least to enjoy laughing with friends. Wish she could have told guidance counselors.
I recall hearing a friend saying that Maddie wasn’t taking her meds. I wonder if that also could have been a contributing factor to her behavior including the ongoing abuse.
No they didn’t. It was not policy at that point but they changed it. Jen went to pick her up. After phoniing, and emailing she was told of her being absent all day.
@@karenmiller6258 Wow, I thought everyone had the policy to call if child didn't make it to school. When I was second grade (1980s) the school my mom worked had had a 3rd grader that walked to school and never made it to school that day. Parents came to school at the end of the day because she didn't come home. (At that point the school changed their policy to make contact with all parents when a child didn't show for school.) They never found the 8 year old and they lost a good 6 hours in the beginning of their search because no one knew the child hadn't made it to school that day.
Now that we know he had been abusing her since she was eight years old and the drugging it’s absolutely devastating and you want to cry, knowing what that poor girl went through on a daily basis… Can you imagine trying to function waking up in the morning after you’ve been drugged and then you forced to take Adderall or whatever else they were giving her and being abused on top of it what a horrible existence for that poor thing 7:27
whats the date of this interview in relation to maddie's murder? wondering what teacher knew at this point bc she seems completely unemotional considering her student was murdered!
The detective states the date at the very beginning of the video. This interview takes place immediately after she goes missing and the cops are concurrently interviewing friends, family, and school to get a handle on her personality to further their investigation pursuing two avenues: kidnapping and runaway. The topic of _murder_ hasn’t been broached overtly at this time.
Just the fact that SS's nasty underwear is in this child laundry basket is disturbing and correct me if the Police also found a tripod as well? ...and JS's never even questioned why are these things in my baby's space??... unbelievable!! This woman only cared for taking meds, collect disability checks and getting a good sleep. No body really cared, heard or seen this child.
Dr John and Lauren please do an analysis of what we can do not to be so “desensitized” and turn off our “radar” of why this child is acting this way? In today’s social environment I’m often too “afraid” to help, reach out, report, acknowledge- and this is not because we live in NYC. When we return to Taipei and Tokyo, I truly find more empathy and compassion for each other, especially towards strangers. We will help and say something when we see/detect something wary. This lady sounded not only indifferent but also there faint sorrow and sadness which she is suppressing - possibly rationalizing. Our teachers are very demoralized and demotivated. And of course, her mom failed and needs to be punished. But why I heard she has qualified immunity? Not right 🤬🤬🤬 We all failed Maddie.😭😭😭 RIP Maddie 🕊️🕊️🕊️
I will be as civil as possible as the rules say....but jenn soto. Nothing civilzed to say about this "mother". These mom/dads bringing their children around sexual partners that they themselves do not know....jenn soto is criminally responsible for what happened to her daughter. She knew, she didn't care. I will never understand the willingness of parents to put thier flesh and blood into these dangerous situations.
Plunder and The Docket have a bunch of these interviews and Plunder is giving access to people for free I believe, for anyone wanting to see the deep dive of everything.
I appreciate someone that can talk about the real person and attitude after a passing. I hate the usual she was sweet. Quiet.shy.would give the shirt off her back. It's more truthful to say a young girl was moody. For me it was the dark circles around Maddy's eyes. In photos she went from a bright vibrant girl to a grey look with dark eyes. Look up panda eyes. Very disturbing
No privacy at home and no respect in general. Horrible parenting. I was so happy when my son’s doctor asked if he has his own room at home with a door that closes for privacy. More people need eyes on all children for protection!!! 😢💔
The zoning out could have been from what he was drugging her with and her attitude could have been because they were having disagreements. I believe she was pregnant 😢
Maddie hadn't sought counseling in the last few weeks because SS hadnt been in her life for a couple of months. This teacher only has her for one subject. Maybe a homeroom teacher would have a better grasp?
Seeing the strap in the car seat literally made me sick. My heart breaks for Madeline and what she endured and all the people around her that failed her. Rest in peace sweet angel
I agree about the teacher. She did not come across as someone who cared much about Maddie, just that she was "flippant", it's obvious this teacher is insensitive and probably doen't like her students much. I remember teachers like her when I was in School. No good.
Jen soto you let your daughter snuggle sleep in bed with you and that coward I wished the dad would have known taken custody away from you shame on you normal behavior survivors guilt but I pray for the father and her step mom not only this do you not know Jen soto when you don't have or see your daughters missed cycle hello an her friend said a month a month so the only one Jen said she was around was coward then before arrest go get her son a lawyer really to his dad you acted like u had to go sleep I need sleep you let the fox in the hen house awful I blame you in public opinion disturbing
Kids aren’t turning work in and you do nothing? Really? How about caring about these kids enough to help more. When I taught and a kid didn’t hand their work in I found out why. I accommodated or found a way. I didn’t just give up on them. Wow! Poor kid.
Were the photos of the dog harnesses there to keep Maddie propped up in the vehicle as he drove around with her to look like a passenger?💔😡😭 I imagine that’s why it was so important to get photos of that, and why Stephen said he would take the dogs out and then returned the leashes when he never dealt with the dogs usually.
I believe it’s been reported that the vehicle was used in some sort of “pet ambulance” service his parents ran. If that is the case, it’s a very dodgy and unprofessional set up. Paying clients deserve and should expect much better.
I would love a bedroom in the living room said no 13yo girl ever 😩 I mean the Sotos Grandfather wasn't dirt poor the least he could have done was provide the child a room with a lock.
@JaneDoe-pw6iz nope. The grandfather had a spare room BUT refused to provide it for Maddie as he wanted to rent it. After Jen and Stefan broke up he ended up in the room WITH the 13 year old child at night. A loving grandfather places his grandchild over money ! And with regards to Maddie sleeping alone a number if children experience that but with decent parenting they know NOT to put them in bed with your boyfriend !
@ did you hear that from the grandfathers mouth though? Or from Jen’s lying mouth? Cause if the grandfather was so desperate for money, the room had been empty a few months already. Jen could have let Maddie stay in the room AT LEAST during that time, but STILL didn’t. So I don’t believe it was the grandfather. Maddie had a room of her own there before. Then Jen started having Maddie sleep with her. She wouldn’t even sleep in the makeshift room either. So I don’t believe it was the grandfather. That was all Jen.
@ the teacher and the counselor are mandated reporters. Teachers take classes regularly to recognize signs of abuse/neglect. They are required to report any signs of abuse to the hotline. If they fail to report and have seen signs they can be criminally liable.
Not trying to be rude. But I don’t know why everyone is so concerned about her flipping attitude at school. She’s a teenager. It doesn’t make her a bad person. Teenagers can be this way. Trust me I know.
Oh my goodness. I haven’t followed her for awhile. I just checked her channel to see what you were talking about!! Now, I am worried about her also. She’s been prolific in the past and now hasn’t posted in two months. 🙏❤ hoping all is okay.
Oh my goodness. I haven’t followed her for awhile. I just checked her channel to see what you were talking about!! Now, I am worried about her also. She’s been prolific in the past and now hasn’t posted in two months. 🙏❤ hoping all is okay. @HiddenTrueCrime .. are you able to reach out to her?
@ yes ma’am, it’s been months… She never does this I’m so afraid. I love her bunches. I thank you for your sweet heart 😭 she’s one of our precious gems. I pray she is well.
@ it was during the trial where she was looking a little disheveled, but I just thought she was tired. We were all in the lifestream, and she was on there the entire time every single day. I don’t know what’s happening.
Who, the teacher? Why would you say that? She’s probably not regularly questioned by a detective. I sometimes have a processing difficulty with recall, I would hope that no one would say I am not all there. How well does she know Maddie except in her class, when she has probably a hundred or more other students. She mentioned the IEP but she’s not the SpEd teacher from the sound of it, but a general education teacher at the school.
@@ErinAbouIt doesn’t matter whether she’s a general educator all teachers that are responsible for our children should be aware and knowledgeable about all their needs and programs IMO
My concern is your title and thumbnail continue to victimize Maddie, it even shows the perpetrators crying an states it's "Maddies flippant attitude" of course she was flippant she was being sexually abused and her so called Mother enabled&& allowed it!!! please take this down, it's not right
SS was pissed bc Maddie was done with him. She wanted to stay at her Grama’s that night and SS was PISSED she wanted it over. Cry😢 so Jenn let him come to ‘spend the night with her’ yet again
I need all who are involved in Beautiful Maddie's Not being here anymore; to be Charged, Convicted, Trialed with a Totally Right Verdict and Sentencing Done! I can't stand it when I hear about that Monster sitting up in jail begging for his Parents to send him his Care Commissary Snack Pack of Chips & Pickles to munch on after what he's done! This is Absolutely Horrific to me! 😢😠😡
As a abused child I completely understand her. It’s so easy for the people that failed her to switch the blame. Sickening all of you including the person that created this video.
@@JaneDoe-pw6iz I don’t have the time to explain this, but she was not doing her job. There are so many ways I could illustrate that but as I said, I don’t have the time and if you’re not a professional teacher or if you’re a professional teacher doesn’t understand your responsibilities then you may not understand this.
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Mothers need to assume every man they meet could be a danger to their daughters.
Sad but true
And/or their sons. Boys are no less vulnerable to predators.
All children require and deserve the full protection of trustworthy adults in their lives.
I haven’t dated in 10 years since my divorce as I didn’t trust men around my then kids (now young adults) and being solo isn’t so bad. I don’t trust men around my autistic son who is 21 and shall never date as he is so vulnerable, believing and kind and easy to be taken advantage of. I also have to be careful with his support team and whom I chose to be around him. How sad is that? 😢
@@369blueneptune
Absolutely 100%. I’m sure, hopefully this comment meant both boys and girls. My son was given more attention than normal from a swimming coach when he was young. Definitely both boys and girls and at risk.
Jen was very selfish
I can't wait for the world to become increasingly trauma informed, because I just heard this teacher list off a bunch of trauma symptoms and then go "Nah, nothing unusual, just that she was quiet." Not the teacher's fault, but man... I'm ready for the world to become better at clocking these things. Ugh.
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this. I was listening and went, Maddie was showing the same sign I was at almost the same age by going through a traumatizing event in my life. Failing a class in my eyes is also a cry for help, a cry for attention from adults.
AGreed. I must have exhibited so many trauma symptoms in my childhood and i was labelled a bit STRANGE by the teachers. But really speaking my so called strangeness was a constant cry for help. I was severely physically a**sed by my dad and my parents and entire family was in a sect. I carried a very heavy burden throughout my childhood, became a life long insomniac due to the constant fear and state of fight or flight adrenaline response state that i lived under continuously.
Teachers SHOULD have acted somehow, but they didn't, even when i was forced to be weeks away from school on end due to my physical state after having been abused. Nobody ever did anything.
This lady also worked for CPS 😮
@@Rebecca-gc9gw Oooffff 😖
I think Jen’s constant criticism and harassment and negative attitude towards her daughter probably CAUSED Maddie’s bad attitude. That’s like kicking a dog, getting bit, and then blaming the dog for being bad.
You don't think the long standing SA was the main problem??
@@jonnylumberjack6223 in my opinion if Jen was a loving mother that put Maddie first, the SA would not have happened!
@@kate_is_great you could say the same for every parent of an abused child. Of course the mother should protect the child. Goes without saying. However, she was not the actual perpetrator. She's appalling, he's a monster.
@@jonnylumberjack6223 I can't argue with that.
@@jonnylumberjack6223 I mean that’s definitely the main issue, but her mother certainly didn’t help she seemed to be resentful towards her own daughter.
Any child who willingly agrees and wants to go see the counselor multiple times because they’re sad or upset is not “normal” A well adjusted mentally healthy child is not going to want or request to talk to the school counselor voluntarily. That should have been a huge red flag 🚩 !!
yes, and mental health resources could be given to parents/ directed to the right agency for help. We have a program in our high school for kids to chat with some counselors-not just planning classes and schedules for each year. My dtr. sees a therapist occasionally that specializes in her diagnosis, but those who don’t have one may try the school resources first.
I am sorry to say this but I have no other words to say it differently : all the adults around Maddie were a complete failure, disconnected, self absorbed or plainly not informed to do their one job, and this goes for the teacher. For goodness sake, I am not a therapist but it was obvious there was something wrong with Maddie! It takes an inch of intelligence, empathy and perception. Listening to this makes me so upset. Everybody failed this child, I feel so sorry Maddie♥
Most, if not all abuse children that I have encountered, act out in negative ways. They are often trust in rules where they think that they are adults, and they become defiant trying to protect their inner child. These people gotta get over themselves and realize that this baby was sexually abused, emotionally abused, thrust in situations that she had no tools to handle, and you expect her to act polite, normal and coddled give me a break. How dare she or anyone speak out about the way Madeline reacted to the unforgiving circumstances, she was born into this makes me angry
I don't know if I would blame teachers; they're job is to educate children and if half the classroom is special needs, then that's a top bill to fill. Maddie was asking to go to counseling 4 times and so it's up to the behavioral health specialists to address concerns.
I thought the same thing. Not ONE of the adults that gave interviews about Maddie's disappearance sounded the least bit worried, shocked or sad. SO MANY negative things said about that beautiful girl. Nobody invested in her. Nobody cared. And also what is up with the negativity from the teachers hey if you don't like to be around kids and some kids are going to be troubled... If you find that to be annoying don't be a teacher!
This teacher hardly knew her. It seems like no one at school took the time/made the effort to see past the simplest observation. “ Quiet, zones out a lot , asks to see counselor , special Ed student, etc.” I don’t hear about communication with mother, either. Same for her grandmother, “she didn’t want to go home, she refused to go home, etc.” The adults demonstrated no insight or curiosity as to WHY she behaved so. The adults failed her miserably.
I agree. Every adult in her life failed her.
Poor kid was drugged & abused what hope did she have ?
@@nikkimclay5474 so sad 😢
This is why I hate when people say “everything happens for a reason” cause what the hell was the reason this little girl had to endure this smh
I work as a parttime teacher. I will see about 60 children a day. I cannot honestly blame teachers for missing signals. I try to be alert, but with so many children...
But out of that 60 how many needed more help? It doesn’t take a lot to be kind and to notice even if you can’t do a lot. This is my background too, and I saw way more than 60 and still managed. Every kid matters.
Exactly! Sometimes more kids. It is not the teachers fault. And a teen having attitude is not something to worry about. Jen is the one responsible. Not the teachers
@@JaneDoe-pw6iz we are all responsible for our children. It is a teacher’s duty. They are the guardian when the child is not at home. This is in the education act in Canada and I’m pretty sure in the United States. I can understand what you’re saying because it’s not always easy to pick up on every signa but the teachers clearly stated they saw the behaviours over a period of time. So they were picking up on the signals. One call may or may not have made a difference, but it certainly should’ve happened. It is your duty as a teacher to report any suspected concern. I think it’s a teacher’s responsibility to become familiar with the behavioural signs of said abuse. They are everywhere online and pamphlets, etc. if you’re going to work with children, that should be something you’re very familiar with. It’s like sending a child out in the middle of winter in freezing temperatures with no coat. The child didn’t bring a coat to school. But you know there’s no coat so are you going to just send that child out? Every child needs adults to look out for them, even if they’re 12 or 13 and their behaviours annoy you. It is 100% a sign of a problem to have such behaviour consistently over a period of time. The withdrawal depression, anxiety and failing grades I mean come on what more do you need? These are classic indicators of abuse. The absence of Mom coming to school?. I don’t understand how anyone could miss this? That’s all I’m saying because I hope someone will read this and change if they were ignoring such behaviors.. 🙏
"Zones out?" Let's stretch it a bit and maybe call it " disassociate's " !!!
How sad.
Adhd - zones out.
Maddie’s teachers did nothing wrong here. She’s reporting her behavior. We all are looking at what she said with the facts of the case. A 13 year old zoning out in class that has Adhd (my child has that) that is a normal thing for him to do.
WE KNOW Maddie was drugged the teacher DiD NOT KNOW THAT and would be legally required to report it if she suspected anything like that was happening. There is no reason to think the teachers knew this was going on and said nothing about it. other people in Maddies life have not been lying to the police except her mother.
Thank you so much for saying this! Took the words out of my mouth. Honestly, it's clear that this teacher cares by how carefully she was observing Maddie's behavior, and noticing changes. It's vital for her to be honest here. ❤
Agreed. The teachers have a LOT on their plates and we live in a great public school district. My dtr. W ADHD (2e)- she has a 504 plan, not an IEP-special Ed classes. 504s allow for accommodations in test taking and homework timing.
She has struggled with the right meds and treatment since 5th. Poor grades in some classes, still struggling w focus at times. We are hands on in her treatment so she can be a fully independent adult someday. I don’t know if I would automatically think something was sinister, but with continued issues would contact the parents and go from there.
Her teachers didn't do anything right either. 😒
@ wow
@@BeeCJ I don’t know her teachers so I can’t say one way or the other. But I listened to the interview with this one.
Just to clarify it is the teacher’s job to teach and ensure her students are learning. All of the students, including and especially the students that are zoning out. It doesn’t matter that she didn’t know she was being drugged. She clearly identified a number of concerning behaviours that were interfering with the child’s learning. She even made it sound like it really wasn’t her role nor could she do anything about it. It was so depressing to hear a teacher seemingly care so little that she never reached out to do something.
What I heard this teacher say was she was aware there was an IEP, or should have, and she hadn’t seen it? That’s a legal document in place to provide a student with specific strategies and accommodations based on a proven professional assessment that ensures the child has in place in order to be able to learn. Students who have an IEP require this in order to access the curriculum. It’s like if you can’t walk, you have to ensure the student’s has access to their wheelchair. If a child is hearing impaired you have to ensure a child’s hearing aid or device is worn and working. Obviously, the unseen needs are harder to understand, but a teacher is a professional who has to understand and put in place what is needed. Again it is her job!
Further, teachers should be able to identify patterns of behaviours that are getting in the way of learning and know what to do. Such as the zoning out. There are clearly listed patterns of behaviours that indicate students are possibly being emotionally or psychologically abused. You can look them up in your local district. I know every single one of my teachers had them listed on their desk as a reminder. Most didn’t need it because they understood. Again, it is a teacher’s professional responsibility and obligation to our students to understand these things and what to do about it. If these behaviours are seen, and clearly they were, it is a legal responsibility for a teacher to report it to the appropriate agency. It’s not a choice. Also teachers act as guardians when children are at school. They are responsible for the safety of their students - that includes emotional safety.
It doesn’t sound like Maddie was getting accommodations and strategies she that would have greatly helped her because she didn’t even know what the IEP said because she hadn’t read it. Maybe I heard that wrong but that’s what I thought I heard?
Accommodations and strategies should be clearly understood by the teacher and in place for the student., it sounds complicated, but it’s actually pretty easy . When teaching any teacher knows how to provide certain strategies and accommodation that often benefit many students. So for example, you may be teaching how to solve a problem. Some students require visual aids as part of their IEP. So you, as a part of your teaching tools, provide that visual aid as a chart on the wall or perhaps individual sheets for a group of students that benefit. To be perfectly honest it really is just good teaching. It is not something you have to go over with the individual student and do separately. But you should be checking in with students who are struggling more frequently. That is very easy to build into your teaching program as well.
One of the things I picked up on that may have been a part of her IEP I don’t no? But it is common for an IEP related to someone like Maddie, that buddy or a learning, buddy stays close to them, especially if they have anxiety. This teacher almost proudly talked about how she had to separate her from her friend. This may have been why her negative behaviours became more apparent and she is much as said this. The thing is if it helped her to have a study buddy or a learning, buddy with her and they needed redirection again that’s the teacher’s job.
Lastly, I just want to point out if a student on an IEP, is still failing, not doing work struggling then then teacher should be meeting with the resource department or whoever takes care of special education and reviewing the IEP ASAP and examine why? You can’t just ignore it or say there’s not much you could do about it. Again, that’s your job! It’s like going to a hospital and being treated for cancer and a medical professional tells you well there’s not much we can do about it because we can’t find the medication you need.
I have a long history in the classroom also was in charge of all the special education in my entire board for a long time was also a principal and served in many other capacities. So believe me when I tell you, I have nothing but respect for the teaching profession. Teachers have a tough job. However, it is their job. There are many amazing teachers out there. I just feel like in this specific case from what I heard during this interview that unfortunately this teacher did not appear to understand her role. I don’t blame her for what happened to Maddie, but I think i it was a missed opportunity that this poor little girl could’ve greatly benefitted from and it sickens me.
The reason I am taking the time to say these things is because I’m really hoping that if another child is in this exact situation that this teacher or another teacher reading this or another adult will actually do something about it. You know when a child is struggling. We all know when a child is struggling. Do something about it. I can forgive just about anything, but I can never forgive giving up on a kid - especially a kid that clearly needed help.🙏
Considering she was a young girl that started her cycle at a early age (meaning she was already experiencing changes in hormones) and in the prime age for the “puberty” portion of her hormones to start forming at the point of when she was brutally assaulted and killed….i can see why she was Kind of rebelling….. however, she was expressing difficulties at home with some of her comments like “ wanting to run away and live in the woods to get away from her mother. IMO Jenn was jealous of her own daughter and her daughter unfortunately felt uncomfortable and didn’t trust her own mothers decision making. Jenn, and everyone around this little girl failed her! Other family members, teachers, counselors, Stephan’s parents ( because they knew about the sleeping arrangements) especially her own mother. No man or no other human being is more important than your children. Ppl are extremely sick in today’s world.
Totally agree with you. The adults in her life failed her.
He may have convinced her that he loved her (and perhaps live somewhere as a couple) and that she felt comfortable enough with him to look for products for them as "parents".
It's not today's world - this kind of abuse has been going on forever. In the past it wouldn't have been captured on camera and it would've been more hidden.
@@sheelfjohnson correct…. And again in today’s world meaning recordings, predators can socialize online, they can connect… yes in today’s world…. Never did I say this never happened many years ago. Today’s world just makes it easier for them to do disgusting things.
Omg Jenn should be prison for putting Maddie in danger poor lass didn't even have her own bloody bedroom
Maddies learning barriers I feel were trauma based.
I agree x
So many so called " professionals " tick the boxes and diagnose the children. Not all of them are bad, some goes in depth of the child's life and can see the difference between the ptsd and special needs
@@benmanyaaam I don't think that true professionals tick the boxes and make a diagnosis. Each case is an individual and needs an individual approach. Trauma can affect a child's ability to learn, and sometimes it is not about the ability to learn but more about what other factors are at play x
Maddie had adhd - a barrier to learning.
I feel so sorry for poor Madeline... So much at the mercy of those who were supposed to care for her. May she rest in peace x
7:53 currently she’s failing??? If maddie had an IEP, then educators should be keeping track of her and provide additional support. In other words, if the student is failing, then that means her educators were failing HER. This makes me upset!
It was weird when the teacher called it an "IP" like she had no idea what it was. That stood out to me, too. I always thought teachers would be in-the-know about those.
Not all the time. If a child is not doing their work/ not turning anything in even with support that is not the teacher's fault. The student needs to take some ownership.
All the teachers must follow a student’s IEP and meet with parents. Maddie would have been well-known to her teachers and would have involved the nurse and the counselor too. She was murdered in February and it seems no one on her campus was advocating for her. That is the job of an educator. In my opinion, too many adults failed her because no one took the lead. At the end of the day, Maddie was a child living a horrendous nightmare, and I will never blame her for failing or for having “an attitude”.
Everyone failed her.
@@PenceliaMaddie had an IEP which means she needed extra support. The fact this teacher said on numerous occasions that Maddie kept 'zoning out' really bothered me. Add this that she was also failing to hand in any work, was getting upset in class, I just can't believe no alarm bells were going off. The fact we now know what this poor girl had been enduring for years I find it unbelievable that you're putting the failures onto her.
This young girl was being horrifically abused. I doubt she had the bandwidth to worry about keeping her room clean and being kind to people. I think anyone would become a compete shell of a human in her situation
1000%
OK I’ve listen to this thing twice. I don’t find it believable that somebody with a 15 year teaching history didn’t know what the name of an IEP was right off the top of her head when she did know that Maddie had some kind of learning disability. I’ll keep the rest of my thoughts about that to my self but I would like to say that given that the school was aware so it’s a known fact that Maddie did have a learning disability I hope Steven is charged accordingly for abuse of a vulnerable individual.
She’s not the SpEd teacher though. I don’t find it surprising at all that a non-SpEd teacher might momentarily flub the acronym.
I am still blown away the mom hasn’t received ANY charges.
@@ErinAbouI do! 15 years experience and they all should know her IEP and where she requires more assistance and be having regular talks with the special ed instructor, even maybe the counselor, for any child pulling D’s routinely. You don’t have to be special ed to know your part in assisting this child and their IEP goals, etc.
@@MaeMae-shagrin I completely agree!
@ this case has made my blood boil with how ridiculously ignorant and neglectful at the very so many of the grown azz adults were in her life. It’s as infuriating at Quinton Simon’s situation where his grandmother fought to get custody of the kids from Leilani saying she was a danger and abusive only to leave the kids with their abuser/“mom” and for months at a time, and she hasn’t been charged with her part and involvement in Quinton’s death.
What strikes me is that Maddie was a good girl but towards the last part of her life she was showing some attitude. It could have been hormones or something we don't know, as of yet. Just 13 years old how could people be so evil to take that little Souls innocence?! I can't give Mom a green light because she was responsible for the welfare & safety of Madeline!!! She put a man before her daughter!
It could be so many things (as the mom of a teen girl ❤)! You’re right.
Up all night being videotaped and abused will make one groggy.. 🤷♀️
I feel it
@nuradary-c8d 😩
How could anybody possibly assess a child that was potentially being drugged. Just because a mother said to a doctor that, oh she's acting this way or that way doesn't necessarily mean it was true. Think her mother had a hidden agenda there with the tablets and don't even get me started about the constipation 😡🤬
@luskentyre65 I agree 100% I used to be in charge of the entire special education and resources including ensuring teachers were following IEP’s for an entire board of education. No assessment should occur without the context of a child’s life. For example, if they’ve had a trauma, you can’t assess them as ADHD that is simply not reliable. Obviously, she had behaviours that were concerning and understandable given what we now know. Sadly, many of the doctors go with what the parents are telling them as they cannot see what really happens in the environment. They base their assessments on teacher and parent information. From my experience, we have many wonderful teachers. But unfortunately, we have teachers that do not follow what they need to follow or care enough to make the extra effort. They just want the kids drugged because they’re a problem in their mind. Sadly, this is the truth. I have experienced it too many times. I’m always grateful for those loving wonderful teachers that actually care about their students. If one teacher had carried enough and paid attention to this child and reported concerns it might have saved her life. 😔
I despise Jenn Soto. Stephan is a predator & he will prey, he needs some prison justice & then put down but Jenn, Jenn had one job - protect Madeline. Jenn knew what was going on & gained from it (IMO) She is not a dumb potato like some people see her. She is highly manipulative, sly & a bully. She was jealous of her own daughter in every way. She makes me sick.
Rest in peace, sweet Maddie. Forever 13, loved around the world 🕊️🪽🤍
I think Jen killed her. I think she found out Maddie was pregnant, and flipped out in a rage.
@ possible
Maddie didn't stand a chance
I feel her pain.. even 49 I was abused and sexually assaulted 😢 it makes me feel empty inside... depression anxiety followed me day by day...
I have 3 children, 2 are girls. If I was ever to be apart from their father for any reason, I will not ever have another man around them. My dad raised my sister and I and never had a girlfriend because he said he wanted his attention to be on us.
Amazing how much you can tell about a home life by how the home is kept.
When I see disarray, I think something is going on in their lives (depression, ADHD, etc.) I don’t know. I can’t give JS much slack, though.
@@alison5009 are you new to the case? This has already been talked about numerous times 🙄
@@sj9410 yes, it’s the first time I’ve watched this video. I was not insinuating I was the only person to think of it this. I was just expressing myself, apparently many others had as well. Sorry I didn’t have a new and exciting angle for ya.
Justice for Madeline Soto🌸 Rest in Eternal Peace, February 22, 2011 - February 25, 2024
A depressed child
Why would they have a shower chair in their closet when they are all perfectly able bodied? You see that in the closet on the left with the cleaning supplies sitting on top of it at 6:23/12:20 That raises alarm bells for me from all we now know.
Chain lock on interior of his bedroom door, Room 4 and no one thought that was alarming he being the only one to have an interior chain lock door to keep people out when he (and Maddie!!!🤬) were inside?
Didn’t Jenn have back issues (or something similar) at some point?
It doesn’t necessarily seem like an odd thing to hang onto, especially stored away in a closet.
Shower chair is odd. Maybe for roommate’s child?
The shower chair was in the bathroom with things piled on it.
This is such a tragic case. What this poor girl was going through all those years & now she’s gone - she deserves justice
I was a 7th grade advisor as a middle school librarian, ugh, this is rough
Can you explain. bit more? As you’ve been an educator in this type of school, I’m curious to know how a situation like this would have affected you and/ or your colleagues.
It’s wild to hear a teacher not see huge red flags and also not understanding ADHD or what her IEP is for. Like read it maybe?
That's not her job. Teachers also teach too many children to take over a parenting and personal physician job on top of teaching.
@@EverHappyDudeactually reading the IEP IS her job
@@DeltaGlam11it should be, but doesn’t always happen. I have to make sure my daughter lets each teacher know about her 504 plan.
@@EverHappyDude it is her job and IEP is legal right.
So many teachers over looked my abuse and just saw it as “attitude” in middle school…. I had a teacher write “good luck” in my year book at the end of 8th grade.
Thank you for sharing.
Poor baby 😢😢😢 I really blame her mother!!! She had to of known what was happening !!! She did not protect Maddie!!!! You can't live with all this going on and not know!!! His underwear in Maddies room!!! 🤬😡😈👿😢😢😢
The whole situation was very bizare
So many things I find disturbing….We have a seventh grader who was failing her class and had not turned in any assignments. Not one person in her life cared enough to hold Maddie accountable for her actions. Good or bad, she could do whatever she wanted. No wonder she was so vulnerable for grooming We cannot expect children to make the best choices when no one even cares enough to follows up on those decisions. No one even made sure she completed “in classroom” assignments. What in the world are we doing to our children?
Her actions were probably Maddies CRY FOR HELP
Considering Maddie’s home, plus her attention deficit diagnosis and medication, I think she was heroic, able at least to enjoy laughing with friends. Wish she could have told guidance counselors.
If this teacher only knew at the time of this interview... So sad!
I recall hearing a friend saying that Maddie wasn’t taking her meds. I wonder if that also could have been a contributing factor to her behavior including the ongoing abuse.
My most burning question is whether the school called Jen in the morning to tell her that Maddie wasn't in school.
No they didn’t. It was not policy at that point but they changed it. Jen went to pick her up. After phoniing, and emailing she was told of her being absent all day.
@@karenmiller6258 Thanks for that - I'm dumbfounded, frankly.
@@karenmiller6258 Wow, I thought everyone had the policy to call if child didn't make it to school. When I was second grade (1980s) the school my mom worked had had a 3rd grader that walked to school and never made it to school that day. Parents came to school at the end of the day because she didn't come home. (At that point the school changed their policy to make contact with all parents when a child didn't show for school.) They never found the 8 year old and they lost a good 6 hours in the beginning of their search because no one knew the child hadn't made it to school that day.
As if Jen didn't already know. She should get the DP along with Sterns.
@@L.D.Intheditch Right?! I feel like she turned a blind eye and basically gave Maddy to him, just to keep him around.
Now that we know he had been abusing her since she was eight years old and the drugging it’s absolutely devastating and you want to cry, knowing what that poor girl went through on a daily basis… Can you imagine trying to function waking up in the morning after you’ve been drugged and then you forced to take Adderall or whatever else they were giving her and being abused on top of it what a horrible existence for that poor thing 7:27
This sounds like Maddie was struggling with her ADHD and also possibly depression.
Both are caused by complex trauma
Well gee, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY
As a teacher you didn’t know what her IEP (Individual Education Plan) was so how could you help her? Sad.
whats the date of this interview in relation to maddie's murder? wondering what teacher knew at this point bc she seems completely unemotional considering her student was murdered!
It was before Maddie was found
The detective states the date at the very beginning of the video. This interview takes place immediately after she goes missing and the cops are concurrently interviewing friends, family, and school to get a handle on her personality to further their investigation pursuing two avenues: kidnapping and runaway. The topic of _murder_ hasn’t been broached overtly at this time.
Amazing teacher! She knew something is wrong. Prob couldn’t do much to address what she felt is going on. So sad
Just the fact that SS's nasty underwear is in this child laundry basket is disturbing and correct me if the Police also found a tripod as well? ...and JS's never even questioned why are these things in my baby's space??... unbelievable!! This woman only cared for taking meds, collect disability checks and getting a good sleep. No body really cared, heard or seen this child.
Thank you
Dr John and Lauren please do an analysis of what we can do not to be so “desensitized” and turn off our “radar” of why this child is acting this way? In today’s social environment I’m often too “afraid” to
help, reach out, report, acknowledge- and this is not because we live in NYC. When we return to Taipei and Tokyo, I truly find more empathy and compassion for each other, especially towards strangers. We will help and say something when we see/detect something wary.
This lady sounded not only indifferent but also there faint sorrow and sadness which she is suppressing - possibly rationalizing. Our teachers are very demoralized and demotivated. And of course, her mom failed and needs to be punished. But why I heard she has qualified immunity? Not right 🤬🤬🤬
We all failed Maddie.😭😭😭 RIP Maddie 🕊️🕊️🕊️
Thank you Lauren & Dr John💞.
Steph at New South Wales, Australia.🌺
I will be as civil as possible as the rules say....but jenn soto. Nothing civilzed to say about this "mother". These mom/dads bringing their children around sexual partners that they themselves do not know....jenn soto is criminally responsible for what happened to her daughter. She knew, she didn't care. I will never understand the willingness of parents to put thier flesh and blood into these dangerous situations.
So so sad how horrific for Maddie 😢
Plunder and The Docket have a bunch of these interviews and Plunder is giving access to people for free I believe, for anyone wanting to see the deep dive of everything.
That’s generous and very kind of Plunder!
I think being a survivor makes this a hot topic for me personally. Sorry
This case really makes me ill, that kid never had a chance!
As a girl mom, this whole case makes me so sick to my stomach. 😡
I appreciate someone that can talk about the real person and attitude after a passing. I hate the usual she was sweet. Quiet.shy.would give the shirt off her back. It's more truthful to say a young girl was moody.
For me it was the dark circles around Maddy's eyes. In photos she went from a bright vibrant girl to a grey look with dark eyes. Look up panda eyes. Very disturbing
Everyone needs to educate themselves on Narcissists and psychopaths.
Everyone failed Maddy😢
Shameful her daughter had to sleep in that makeshif bs
No privacy at home and no respect in general. Horrible parenting. I was so happy when my son’s doctor asked if he has his own room at home with a door that closes for privacy. More people need eyes on all children for protection!!! 😢💔
Prayer for that poor girl❤❤
oh yeah that'll fix everything
@@raccoon874not necessary. Be nice. 😮
@@ErinAbou do not tell anyone to be nice. That is not nice.
@@Bette-g7kunnecessarily rude. What’s the matter w/ some?
Not being rude, just real!
The zoning out could have been from what he was drugging her with and her attitude could have been because they were having disagreements. I believe she was pregnant 😢
She wasn't pregnant. Maddie's father's family disclosed that part of her autopsy results. But Maddie may have thought that she was.
I think Maddie was getting ready to say “no” and tell on Stephan!
Why so many photos of the dog leash on the car seat?
his voice reminds me of Mr. Rogers. I just aged myself.
Maddie hadn't sought counseling in the last few weeks because SS hadnt been in her life for a couple of months.
This teacher only has her for one subject. Maybe a homeroom teacher would have a better grasp?
Disgusted the way we want to place onus on abused children.
Seeing the strap in the car seat literally made me sick. My heart breaks for Madeline and what she endured and all the people around her that failed her. Rest in peace sweet angel
This Detective sounds like Mr. Rogers to me. I'm 61 yrs. lol.
Poor child
I agree about the teacher. She did not come across as someone who cared much about Maddie, just that she was "flippant", it's obvious this teacher is insensitive and probably doen't like her students much. I remember teachers like her when I was in School. No good.
What about the pictures in the car 😮
That woman’s DOB should have been redacted.
Jen soto you let your daughter snuggle sleep in bed with you and that coward I wished the dad would have known taken custody away from you shame on you normal behavior survivors guilt but I pray for the father and her step mom not only this do you not know Jen soto when you don't have or see your daughters missed cycle hello an her friend said a month a month so the only one Jen said she was around was coward then before arrest go get her son a lawyer really to his dad you acted like u had to go sleep I need sleep you let the fox in the hen house awful I blame you in public opinion disturbing
Kids aren’t turning work in and you do nothing? Really? How about caring about these kids enough to help more. When I taught and a kid didn’t hand their work in I found out why. I accommodated or found a way. I didn’t just give up on them. Wow! Poor kid.
A pre-teen with moods. Who'd have seen that coming?
Madeline Soto? Or do you mean Jennifer Soto?
Were the photos of the dog harnesses there to keep Maddie propped up in the vehicle as he drove around with her to look like a passenger?💔😡😭 I imagine that’s why it was so important to get photos of that, and why Stephen said he would take the dogs out and then returned the leashes when he never dealt with the dogs usually.
i'm thinking they're for the dogs. i have one for my dog
I think that’s exactly why they were there. So SS could drive around with a dead girl next to him and nobody look twice.
I believe it’s been reported that the vehicle was used in some sort of “pet ambulance” service his parents ran. If that is the case, it’s a very dodgy and unprofessional set up. Paying clients deserve and should expect much better.
Is it me, or is this detective giving Mr. Rogers?
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I would love a bedroom in the living room said no 13yo girl ever 😩 I mean the Sotos Grandfather wasn't dirt poor the least he could have done was provide the child a room with a lock.
That was up to Jen, not him. And Maddie slept with Jen, not in the makeshift room. She said Maddie would not sleep alone.
@JaneDoe-pw6iz nope. The grandfather had a spare room BUT refused to provide it for Maddie as he wanted to rent it. After Jen and Stefan broke up he ended up in the room WITH the 13 year old child at night. A loving grandfather places his grandchild over money ! And with regards to Maddie sleeping alone a number if children experience that but with decent parenting they know NOT to put them in bed with your boyfriend !
@ did you hear that from the grandfathers mouth though? Or from Jen’s lying mouth? Cause if the grandfather was so desperate for money, the room had been empty a few months already. Jen could have let Maddie stay in the room AT LEAST during that time, but STILL didn’t. So I don’t believe it was the grandfather. Maddie had a room of her own there before. Then Jen started having Maddie sleep with her. She wouldn’t even sleep in the makeshift room either. So I don’t believe it was the grandfather. That was all Jen.
I’m so disappointed in your Delphi coverage 😮
I hope he gets everything done to him he done to her. I don't believe the mother either. IMO including her grandmothr and Aunt failed her.❤🙏⚜️❤
Could have been birthday attitude
This teacher is clueless. Zoning out and upset, requests to go to the counselor because she sad, failing my class…. But clearly nothing was wrong.
Ok and? What about the counselor? I mean if they have no concerns and Maddie isn't disclosing anything, there's nothing that can be reported.
It is not the teachers fault or responsibility. They have hundreds of kids in their class daily.
@ the teacher and the counselor are mandated reporters. Teachers take classes regularly to recognize signs of abuse/neglect. They are required to report any signs of abuse to the hotline. If they fail to report and have seen signs they can be criminally liable.
This teacher is just another adult who had the responsibility to protect Madeline, but ultimately failed her miserably.
Not trying to be rude. But I don’t know why everyone is so concerned about her flipping attitude at school. She’s a teenager. It doesn’t make her a bad person. Teenagers can be this way. Trust me I know.
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When no one listens to children they ACT out. This teacher needs some insight
Not always. Some children are just brats from gentle parenting.
Oh my goodness sweetheart please check on it’s a crime… Linda
Oh my goodness. I haven’t followed her for awhile. I just checked her channel to see what you were talking about!! Now, I am worried about her also. She’s been prolific in the past and now hasn’t posted in two months. 🙏❤ hoping all is okay.
Oh my goodness. I haven’t followed her for awhile. I just checked her channel to see what you were talking about!! Now, I am worried about her also. She’s been prolific in the past and now hasn’t posted in two months. 🙏❤ hoping all is okay. @HiddenTrueCrime .. are you able to reach out to her?
I follow Linda also and I was wondering the same, haven’t see her for a wile and the last couple times I saw her, she didn’t look to well 😞🙏
@ yes ma’am, it’s been months… She never does this I’m so afraid. I love her bunches. I thank you for your sweet heart 😭 she’s one of our precious gems. I pray she is well.
@ it was during the trial where she was looking a little disheveled, but I just thought she was tired. We were all in the lifestream, and she was on there the entire time every single day. I don’t know what’s happening.
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Redirect yourself… pay attention!!!
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WOW she's not all there
Who, the teacher? Why would you say that? She’s probably not regularly questioned by a detective. I sometimes have a processing difficulty with recall, I would hope that no one would say I am not all there. How well does she know Maddie except in her class, when she has probably a hundred or more other students. She mentioned the IEP but she’s not the SpEd teacher from the sound of it, but a general education teacher at the school.
@@ErinAbouIt doesn’t matter whether she’s a general educator all teachers that are responsible for our children should be aware and knowledgeable about all their needs and programs IMO
My concern is your title and thumbnail continue to victimize Maddie, it even shows the perpetrators crying an states it's "Maddies flippant attitude" of course she was flippant she was being sexually abused and her so called Mother enabled&& allowed it!!! please take this down, it's not right
The person that posted this has nearly 300k followers you really believe she’s going too listen too one person 😭😭
It may be new to you, but its not new at all
SS was pissed bc Maddie was done with him. She wanted to stay at her Grama’s that night and SS was PISSED she wanted it over. Cry😢 so Jenn let him come to ‘spend the night with her’ yet again
I need all who are involved in Beautiful Maddie's Not being here anymore; to be Charged, Convicted, Trialed with a Totally Right Verdict and Sentencing Done! I can't stand it when I hear about that Monster sitting up in jail begging for his Parents to send him his Care Commissary Snack Pack of Chips & Pickles to munch on after what he's done! This is Absolutely Horrific to me! 😢😠😡
As a abused child I completely understand her. It’s so easy for the people that failed her to switch the blame. Sickening all of you including the person that created this video.
This teacher failed her BIG TIME!
I’m sorry I keep asking but I don’t know if you’ve seen my plea
Email your request, that might help.
@ OK thank you😭 I am an older lady, and I did not even think of that
This poor child is missing (or has been found dead) and the teacher can't even speak kindly about Madeline. 'Rolled her eyes.." So, she's 13 ffs!
@@catasrophieGrrl The teacher wasn’t speaking unkindly at all.
How is she speaking unkindly? For stating the truth?
@@JaneDoe-pw6iz I don’t have the time to explain this, but she was not doing her job. There are so many ways I could illustrate that but as I said, I don’t have the time and if you’re not a professional teacher or if you’re a professional teacher doesn’t understand your responsibilities then you may not understand this.
Wish you had chat on replay how can we comment? I think this man is asking to many personal questions imo
He's an investigator. That's what they do after murders
If she wont be held accountable as well, this is disgusting. She should be in prison as well.