Tyla Needs Some Black American Friends Before Her Career Fizzles Out
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- Tyla caused some controversy among Black Americans when she identified with her classification in South Africa as Coloured. Coloured in South Africa is a racial category and ethnic group. Tyla, by not surrounding herself with Black Americans, didn't learn the racial nuances of American culture.
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We need to stop claiming people who don't want to be claimed. Let her do what she wants.
Absolutely!!!!!!
She's more indian than black. Yall obsessed with race
Learned that with Jennifer Lopez
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@@sibusiso2841 Well stay where you are. I know you’re not SA and talking about race obsession. Didn’t yall get freedom in the 1990s and the whites still own 90% of the wealth ! Maybe yall need to get obsessed with race because you’re loosing in Africa. You’re running to everyone else’s countries.
Nahh.. Let her be her African self 💯
Absolutely 💯 the way she talks about Black people and how she's not one of us!! I don't even listen to any of her auto tunes 😂😂😂
@@racquels4529 she never said she wasn't one of you. She said she is coloured which is its own race and culture.
No she don’t
@@SpongeBob38She hates her Black side. Stop caping for her.
@@SpongeBob38yes she did. She also spoke against reparations. Get your facts right.
She not black American let her do her own thing
She said she is not black so why she needs us?
Lol 😂
Exactly she got this far without us why she need us now 🤣
If you know how things work in South Africa, you'd understand her response. You have Black people, yt people, and those who are biracial. They're known as "coloured" people and are considered their own race. Even worse, unlike in America where they'll claim anyone with Black genetics no matter the percentage as their own, in South Africa, neither side will claim them and see them as pariahs.
I bet none of you are black either. She told the truth. Most if not all of our ancestors were raped and burdened with hybrid offspring. We no longer resemble the Pyramid builders.
Sies munn
Burna Boy is a PRIME example that you don't need American friends to be a WORLDWIDE success.
Man just about any band or artist will travel the world and play all entertain that's not the problem is he getting paid what he's worth in all these other countries compared to if he was a black artist here in America hell no so what is your measure of success we have people that just play jazz you never see on TV that traveled the world traveling the world means nothing that's the mindset y'all have that means nothing getting paid what you're worth
@@blackrascalent Burna Boy most popular solo song is Last Last sampled an iconic song Black American singer Tony Braxton. So he had at least one American friend to clear him to use her song
Who cares. We don't really rock with him, and focus more on our own creative artistry and acts. He can be as massive as a hit as his popularity allows. Americans in general, and especially black Americans, are more insular, and don't really care about the outside world like that.
We love you for who you are, Tyla. Your South African flair makes you. Don't change and follow American thinking
@@th3azscorpio pound town is a real creative success!
Let her be who she want to then..we respond accordingly
Projection at its finest.
Correction, let her be a proud South African pretty girl from Joburg 😉😉😉😉
Y'all don't even support coloreds over there because you're beneath them@@adrian100
I never seen a bunch of people mad at a female representing her country 😂She lived in Africa her whole 22 years of life..Is she supposed to be like I am American now because Americans don't want me to represent my country..
I'm assured Tyla more african than you.
THIS FORCED HATE IS HILARIOUS.
Let the Colored of South Africa support her because she is not black until they remind her!
@@reyandy4851 they are
@SpongeBob38 you do not understand the commentary!
@@reyandy4851 no you guys just want to take the identity of a young musician, and we won't have it. Hurt people, hurt people. Sies.
You don't get do you. She is mixed. It's funny too because you act as if Mulatto don't exist in the US. Last time I checked most of your so called black leaders were and still are mulattos 😂.
Correctly so.
It’s not politics. She is who she is. People are just sensitive
When in Rome….
If that’s how you feel so be it, but it still won’t change the fact she has lost and will continue to lose support from black Americans. Let her get support from “colored people” in South Africa.
Bull 💩 she is wedge artist, there are many Amapiano artists; that are far more deserving of the spot where she is right now.. We've seen this nonsense before... She will never be that pop star she wants to be because the odds are against her and trying to distance herself away from Black people is going to make sure of her failure. Somebody told her wrong; If Afrikan (that is to say Black) people don't support her, she will be gone in 60 secs MARK MY WORDS.
@@MBRIGHTMON Coloured South African here and you can respectfully keep your identity politics. She gets support from the whole world.
@@adrian100 and when you come to America using terms we don’t use expect push back. You can not come here as a guest in our country and expect we will be cool with you using that word. Respect folk in there country if you want to be respected or stay home. Just that simple.
Didn’t know someone’s race/ethnicity matters so much in the music industry lol, she never denied her blackness and the idea of ethnicity is different in South Africa. People are so dramatic!
Nope go get it popping by yourself
Right, I'm tired of people trying to copy us ,and then when we've made them 😒 popular they wanna act like they're better than us ,stop trying to appeal to us and sound like us,another damn culture vulture 🤷🤷🤷🤷✌✌✌✌
@@sidneywilder2731drop the 🎤
@@achildsheart4658 she did
@@sidneywilder2731shes not copying you
@@Ekofoyurittyt yeah right just like burner boy ain't either right
She doesn't want anything too do with us let her stay on that side
Ratchet and violent, nope she is not
@MsDesiree39 So you think every black American you come across is that way
That part ❤
@@teresaporter6649you’re ignorant
That's right!
She is mixed and doesnt just identify with one ethnicity. How rude to just disqualify part of her ethnicity. North Americans ned to stop thinking their opinions are the standard. Im French Canadian, Creole and Native american why do I have to identify with just one, and why does she?
Black Americans must calm down , theres a whole world outside of USA , why is it acceptable to be proudly black but we cant say we are proudly coloured and coloured is an identity
You can ! In your own country
But not in a country that you are a guest in and calling the people a racial slur in America colored is a racial slur. We will not let up on that. It would be the same for any person that came from any other country, even if it wasn't Africa. There are no immigrants that come to America and call themselves color or recognize the word color for the black American people. I understand her in my country. I'm considered color. I understand in America that's derogatory. In other words they have created a child who has no clue about the world outside of her own lands.
Tyla will be just fine. She's got global support. 😅
Technically all artist have global support. Just a matter of if it's enough to stay relevant. Would love to see the amount of non-black fans she actually has.
@@sandlotkrew8778most of the African countries got her .America isn’t the only place with black people
Let her get support from a global market, doesn’t mean she needs it from us 🤷🏾♀️
@@sandlotkrew8778to be honest people are over this, she won a BET and her talent will speak for itself through the hate
It's not about who she wants to be she's colored period!!! Plain and simple proudly south African 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
We don’t use colored as a term in America. She failed
Aweh!
@@Vejamaestro what is it about the colored term being outdated and offensive that’s not clicking. She can be who she is all day as a colored girl proudly in SA. While she’s in the US she need to understand why colored is problematic. We don’t want her to say she’s black either because she’s not. There is an alternative way to let us know who she is while she’s here that isn’t offensive, especially if she is looking to perform in black spaces.
@@tyiingram9878 that's the main problem, the world does not revolve around the US we're not gonna erase a whole tribe of people simply because the US feels pressed, if you come to AFRICA you're African American, we will never force you to call yourself AFRICAN
@@tyiingram9878 by the way it's not term "colored" it's colored nation
It's crazy people actually want this from her. Let her be who she is wtf. She don't need to make friends with anyone just to fit in. And if they over her then so be it. Me as a Coloured person i would've told them all to go kick hard rocks and where to get off.
They not like us, let her do her over with her people.
Kendrick is no real pro black unless he beefing with someone.
Telling people “you not like us” is actually a compliment. I take great pleasure in being nothing like you.
She doesn't need to be like you either, what is this? Middle School? Self identification in south Africa Is different from the U.S. she's not saying she's not black, she's trying to express she's a mixed girl. Hence the term coloured. You do realize the world is more than just the U.S?
@amoura OK so stay in your country do come over on FBA land. If you gonna separate yourself from your brothas and sistas in America. Stay in Johannesburg became famous over there I'm sick of it .
@@amoura Nooo really??
To call someone black or white goes to show how colorblind people are.
You make no sense color blindness when you don't see color so how can I be color blind if they see black and white which is the way of the world especially when it comes to black people because we have to deal with it everyday do people see what France has done to Africa you see what they do every day on the news we didn't start this s***we just on guard about it everyday
😂😂Outraged by her but not upset with use of the n-word, repeatedly by music artist.
@@Sweetlady1916 AMEN!!!!!!!!
This narrative is tired. Tyla is not black. LET IT GO!!!
Agree. We (Black Americans) don't see her as one of us. She had a chance to make connections, but came out the gate weird.
She's east Indian and African so she's not going to identify as black
Not fair...leave Tyla alone! Why does she need to learn our culture and deny hers. Let's move on and enjoy her talent. Folks are just jealous and looking to gripe.
Tyler has built her career by expropriating South African black township culture and African American culture. She already denounced her own by doing that. She is telling the world that her culture has nothing worth noticing and worth showcasing.
These youbers have no content
@@mmajwalanetladi8200 ukuthathaphi lokho
Uh. What talent?
O bua masepa just to please americans @@mmajwalanetladi8200
She'll be fine there is a whole lot of people that support her outside the US who like her and support. She gets coins not just in the US.
😂 isn't funny that they claim to not be black but they want black American community support 💵💸💳 and protection?
Like those Mejora la Razas folks
She didn't claim to not be butshe is still coloured just go visit South Africa and you will understand
@@luthandomathobela7134Coloured is just a word to distance herself from being black. We should keep that distance. Black Americans don't play that. Black is black.
@@luthandomathobela7134I did. It's literally the 3 little pigs with blacks living in tin shacks with dirt floors. Colored section is made of clay. And yts live in brick houses with windows
@@luthandomathobela7134 she is mixed
What's crazy is Tyla is more rooted to her african roots and african Americans wanna take a jab at her as if ever been invested about their african side, very ironic this.
@@Cebz2.0 why would we care about a continent of people who sold us off🤦🏾♀️even the few who did go back is being use and mistreated 🙄that bad we’re looking for countries beside Africa like Brazil
@@shugavery5383since lately some of these black American are showing their true colors.
@@shaneilellis9832 yeah sure you tried it since Marcus Garvey Malcom X and the entirety of the 90s has black Americans been invested, but skin tone and tribe have always been more important to Africans… This disconnect is the reason for shanty’s and prior apartheid because as black American aside from a few defectors PAID not just ideology we unified and unleashed civil rights and to this day Africa cannot liberate itself… The disrespect is palpable. I’ve always had an eerie feeling non American black didn’t like us.
I will never understand the American obsession with race!
The girl never denied her ethnicity- she explained in HER COUNTRY, she is classified as Coloured per THEIR racial status.
Why do you have to take offense? Good grief. It’s not a dig at Black or African Americans, she’s not out to hurt anyone, she’s explaining how things are in HER country.
We have bigger fish to fry as Black people than this nonsense 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
It's not about race it's about culture. Our culture is NOT community property. We don't owe nobody nothing but an ass whoopin and we have the right to gatekeep what's ours. Shalom
Your absolutely right! 💯
@@davidbenyahuda5190 What “culture” are you protecting? Her sound and moves are part of HER South African culture.
“Amapiano is a new musical movement that started in the townships of South Africa in the 2010s. Roughly translated from Zulu to mean "the pianos" or "piano people," amapiano is a mash-up of a few different genres: kwaito, deep house, jazz, and log drum percussives. Together it all creates entrancing, mid-tempo music that's a cultural staple of South Africa's party scene.”
@@davidbenyahuda5190 what exactly is the culture you’re gate keeping?
@@Mctfl427 yall music is not that good and south Africans act lame nobody wants to be like yall and she is a plant she came out of no where .
Never heard of her until now but if that's what she wants to do, then that's on her. She will find out soon enough.
She did a song called water it was alright
What exactly did she do wrong other than say that she calls herself colored because that’s what they say in South Africa about mulatto people? Why does she have to be called black not only is she technically not Black, but she doesn’t live in the United States where they have the one drop rule and call any mixed person black no matter how little amount of Black they have in them. She’s not doing anything wrong. She hasn’t made any political statements about reparations other than foolishly singing a song that was written for her by a white man.
Yes I agree with you
As a BLACK South African, I would like to clarify why it is incorrect to classify Tyla as simply "Black". The multi-mixed group of people in South Africa represent multiple races and cultures, so classifying them as simply Black would not be accurate. Blackness in many parts of the continent is ALSO deeply rooted in one's tribe and culture. That said, over the centuries, the group of what we call "Coloured" people cultivated their own culture and language dialect. They are not all the way Black, nor are they all the way European or Malay as their DNA would indicate.
Danko is thanks. They don't understand niks.
We understand this completely. It’s just here it’s called mixed/biracial. Colored is a “HORRIBLE” racially charged term here and should NEVER be used. Our ancestors were oppressed under Jim Crow under this term.
So while it’s incorrect to classify her as black in SA it is appropriate here OR she can call herself biracial or just say she chooses not to discuss her ethnic background.
@@YouAREyoubeYou Yes we are well aware of the historical referenceof that word and it's heaviness in America, however, from a South African context Coloured and Biracial are not the same thing. Coloured is a people group who have gone on to develop their own culture. It's not to say that South Africans will start calling Americans that, but it IS to say that you cannot simply erase one's identity due to geographic location. That said, if Americans are uncomfortable calling her Coloured, just call her by her name, and I honestly wish media outlets would stop bringing it up.
@@kitsontuli2713 problem is, in America she is nothing but black. So I can understand the word you use in SA, but while she is doing business in America she also have to accept the term Black. She cannot change 300 million people.
WHO?
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Family: the Coloured designation in South Africa is a very, very real thing. To identify as "Black" for her would be to identify as a Black South African-Zulu, Xhosa, Tswana, Venda, Bapedi... she will never do that, ever.
Why?
@@YouAREyoubeYouare you ok in the head ?
It's a culture
@User.777.1 if it’s a culture why would she call herself that if she was asked her race? Sounds like you are not ok in the head.
What race are you? Proceeds to call herself a culture lol
So basically she offened the ignorance of black people that didnt know Colored was actually still used in other countries.
They are angry because she won a BET award and one of them didn't and they don't like her saying it was a win for Africans,tyla is a coloured woman from south Africa whether people like it or not
@@NoCapJustFaxts no it was her checking for her publicist to answer a question 🙋♀️ we don’t give a damn honestly stand on your identity 🙄😂
@@shugavery5383 and here you are
@@shugavery5383 but she already addressed this on another American radio station. Is she supposed to talk about this, everywhere she goes?
@@CJ_P no she shouldn’t and I’m for sure not pressed about it, I don’t really listen to her I just don’t like them talking down on our culture but capitalize off using it🤦🏾♀️ they even use our slang,but we’re not complaining and the fact they always wanna disconnect us from Africa is crazy like our ancestors asked to be sold 🙄but believe GOD don’t like ugly the African whole continent is outdated because of that ….. they will be well off if united but they prefer 53 presidents not one we literally fought blood sweat and tears to have our everything we have a reason to be defensive the Jews don’t play about their people so why should we like I said Black American are the most imitated group of people worldwide we’re super talented and trend setters, we can literally make shoe box look like royalty😂
Africans and American black people don’t really get along well with each other. There’s the difference in culture and both people believe in the negative stereotypes of each other’s cultures countries. Both people separate themselves from each other and don’t consider themselves as the same people. Our skin color is the only thing that we have in common and it’s not enough to unite us or even encourage us to like each other.
Were not and slavery still going on over there
FBAs were the only ones who believed in Pan-Africanism at a large scale.
Delineation is a response to Africans and Caribbeans coming here and disrespecting us.
We ride for the ones that ride with us.
We only have smoke for the tribalistic and biscuit crumbs behavior.
I've seen how Africans of any country who come here to America behave around Caucasians. They're entirely too docile and submissive for my tastes. If submission to Caucasians for a check is African culture. Then more than likely American Blacks will never align themselves with Africans. American Blacks culture is built of revolution and standing against the status quo. Africans come to American with the sole intention of pleasing the status quo in hopes of becoming a member. We are polar opposites. Americans don't run from a fight. Africans flee Africa like rats off a sinking ship. Brave people rarely have anything in common with cowards.
That’s cap. Black Americans usually respect Africans it’s the Africans that don’t reciprocate the respect so we’re letting them hold their own 🥜
yet they aren't the same as White Americans, Hispanics and Europeans either but quick to cozy up if given the chance
We only support our FBA’S and anyone that doesn’t we shouldn’t support.
What does FBA stand for?
What about your brothers in west Africa?
@@barryw8011 if you don’t know, you don’t need to know. Thanks in advance
Lmao. Yall are the biggest scammers/robbers/killers of each other. Did BLM give you any of the millions they accepted? Nope, they bought mansions.
@@iaintmadatcha you heard the man.
We love to put each other down. She’s creating music, not a movement. Let her be her, and if you don’t like her music, don’t listen to it.
Her dances and her identity get more attention than her music. I don't see longevity
This whole thing is misdirected. She has Black Americans in her writing team, she has them as dancers, has them as producers, has them as features. Do you expect her to have a team of exclusively Black Americans? How will that help her career?
Leave the girl alone, at this point.
What success has tribalism produced?
If tribalism has led to failed nation-states, why bring that behavior over here?
How many times might a group run into a wall before they realize the wall is there?
Pan Africanism hasn’t worked either
Isreal has seemed to figure it out..
@@Jameel.Autoria Israel is The United States welfare baby.
@@amenx Pan-Africanism doesn't have a leg due to tribalism. Its success is contingent on solidarity which is the opposite of tribalism.
@@Jameel.Autoria Israel is The United States welfare baby.
Here in SA we identify her as coloured because she is mixed race it does not mean shes better than black people and I'm sure she didn't mean she is better than blacks in America or any other country nor to put them down she's an uprising star who still have a lot to learn, lets support her and im sure she still have more to offer (good music that will have the whole world dancing)
Her music is inpired by Amapiano genre which originated here in SA, since music does not have colour the whole world is welcome to enjoy it
She needs to stay in South Afrika, with her white boyfriend and stop coming into Black American spaces.
Is the music she is using black South African music?
@@patriciahercules6852 it's South African music and we all jive and Bacardi to it. All races especially the young ones they are uniting us through music and dance.
@@dudleykoopman1664 Do color people have their own music and culture?So the main culture of South Africans is black culture?
@@patriciahercules6852 As a South African we borrow from each others cultures and languages depending on which part of the country you from. As for music it's truly universal here especially with kwaito, Amapiano, Qhom, RnB, Jazz, Latin beats, Reggaeton, afro beats and K-pop. You welcome to enjoy it all and in Tyla's produce it as well. If you talented why not, South Africa belongs to everyone who lives in in.
Let that girl be who she is. We don't need to support her.
You don't need to bring her down either... Jus go about your business
@@mightyrsa9772 Thank you. I am glad all this kick back is happening so the world can realise how toxic the american community is.
Go look at her breakfast club interview she doesn't want nothing to do with American blacks go look at the interview the most ridiculous thing I ever saw
@@airanthony3 she's coloured not black. Also she never said she wants nothing to do with American black people, don't lie.
@@SpongeBob38 hey retard I never said that's what she said I said go look at the interview and someone doesn't have to tell u anything in order for you to get the hint
@@SpongeBob38 I can tell u didn't see the interview they used the word colored
@@airanthony3 I saw it, and its spelt coloured. Its a race and a culture, you're spelling it wrong.
@@SpongeBob38are u colored
Na. We don't claim her. She isn't Black American nor Black South African. That being said, her management is screwing her. She should have said she is a proud South African Coloured person. Instead, of saying she isn't Black.
True, her management is stupid in that regard.
But...she's not black. Why must she identify as something she's not?
She can't sing anyway.
@@octbaby88Why are you being obtuse? No one EVER asked her to identity as black. 👀 We saw what looked like kinfolk since believe it or not, we have plenty of family who look just like her (Diggy Simmons, etc). Some of us were even confused a bit since she used the term coloured and had a foreign accent. Once she EXPLAINED that she was a coloured South African….we simply made the choice to just call her South African so as not to cause any confusion around the word coloured.
It’s YALL foreigners who seem to have a problem with the fact that we refuse to call her coloured and prefer to just call her South African for some reason.
We are not obligated to uphold the apartheid system of a foreign country over here. Just like we don’t go to Southa and demand you guys change the words you use…we don’t care.
She messed up by having the wrong management.
Not supporting anything thats not related to black or American.
Ikr sweetheart let keep it Goin
What do you mean by "black"? Do you mean Africans are not of the black race? Do we need sociology course to understand the difference between race and ethnic group? Man, I wonder what they're teaching in primary school nowadays! Oh wait... w Americans don't call themselves white as opposed to people from Europe. So I guess ghetto jargon do make one look silly outside of the ghetto 😂
Grow up 🫵🏿😭
@@ceeceeh6484 ok you crybaby
Even your culture that is black is in part from Africa because that’s where you came from…silly goose.
The kicker is that she is here to become rich and famous in America and gain American dollars but no one has explained to her that FBAs are the arbiters of cool. If we don’t give our stamp of approval then it is not so.
And yall are trying to bring her down out of jealousy and insecurity😂😂😂 meanwhile, all your black artists are being fed by whyte American dollars😂😂😂
Absolutely not. She doesn’t care about Foundational Black Americans.
That's right. Why should FBA give away their culture to someone who does not support them? Sorry, but she's going along with the program so, it's a no for me.
The feeling is becoming mutual so let the coloureds and the whites support her
FBA1
@@MarvluzAllTheTimeYep, until she realizes that they don’t ultimately give a sh*t about her either.😅
Why should she care , she is not American ,
PR team failed her...not prepared for a Black American media tour.
AND THAT WAS GOOD!!!!!
Black American media failed itself, tyla did not have to come to America for black America to know that there are black people out there who identify themselves as being colored
Nah, it's good she fumbled. Better to know who people are before we let them all the way into the culture.
She don’t support us we not supporting her, is that simple
AS A COLOURED FROM CAPE TOWN...I AGREE....AND WE DONT CARE BECAUSE WE DONT KNOWS YOU
@@agentb1ack01 she's a musician, what do you want from her?
She doesn’t need to follow anyone’s culture, America is a multicultural place, people will support her SA music or not.
All of the “pro blacks” in the comments are gonna get triggered.
So why are she here seeking validation
Braids isn't her culture. The music she primarily does isn't her culture as well. The chick is cosplaying Aaliyah and we know Aaliyah was Blk American.
@@QuanPookie Says the guy on a pro-black channel. You felt triggered, so that's why you ran to comment.
@@bwslayer926Explain what makes you pro black. I’m really curious.
As a South African, Tayla missed the point n America. As a black South African I would not go to America and introduce myself as umXhosa, Americans would not understand what umXhosa is. She could have said that she is black qha, and she is black.
Tyla always introduce herself as South African. She has never said that she is coloured on American soil
@@sportsnumber1567 She Always Said She is a Coloured… We Don’t Support Coloured… We Support all Blacks.
So does that mean that all Africans need to say their Black when they come here?
@@NoCapJustFaxts YES 👍🏿 Once They look black or if you don’t want to be black go back Home.
but shes not black... shes coloured
why bother with her,she already declared she not black
0 evidence of what you just said. It's insecurities talking
She has to understand blk culture and respect it as well...The nerve of these foreigners
“I never denied my blackness”
But when Charlemagne repeated the black question you look to somebody else to answer for you????? 🤨
Yeah, because yall love twisting her words to fit your agenda.
@@sportsnumber1567She should of answered when she was asked. We don't deny our blackness over here we stand on it
@@sportsnumber1567 “because yall love twisting her words”
She said she’s colored. If you watched the VIDEOOOOOO instead of TWISTING WORDSSSSS Phil already explained saying you are colored in America instead of saying you are black is offensive to us delineation. She got it and you do too stay over there
Gotta dumb it down for you since you can’t hear hopefully you can read
@@Seikukeny’all talk so much crap but y’all sold some of us off😂 y’all been traitors at least we built America 😂
Sir, She did say that IN South Africa she’s coloured… As in where she’s from. She can’t say she’s black where she’s from, because she’s NOT. And I’m not talking bout the American context when I say this
You have many white classified colours who will tell you quick they are black, so that's bull 💩
Never thought I'd see the day where an actual African has to pander to Black Americans to get a "pass" in that industry 😅 Can't stand how some people try to gatekeep how an African talent should move over there. Y'all want everyone to check in with y'all to be likeable to y'all.
It's simple then, you want to sell colours only pies, market to colours only. If whites pick it up (which they won't) then good, but trying to market to Afrikans, while looking like them, but spit in their face when they say O' you're like me; is the worst marketing plan on the planet.
And I don't care how many ways you twist your fingers up to respond, stupid is stupid.
@mpeshyonkinto We want everyone to check in with us? Ma'am or Sir, she requested to come on a Black American show. Who demanded that she check in with us? Nobody even knew she was here
If she wanna be identified as"colored" it's here S.A prerogative, she can be colored we just different ova here.
Colored in her country not ours.
no one is going to call you that unless you’re mixed & from South Africa. different politics, other countries are not America
Her self identification doesn't necessarily change just because she's performing in the U.S. Nothing wrong with that! The world is not just the U.S.
Coloured with a U, poes.
So the hell what, you dont say that in another country that that word is disrespectful. So she can go back, we ain't making no artist from another country hot no more het hot on your own and build we're not doing it anymore @@qp4706
So it is her fault that many of us don't travel abroad and don't know that in South Africa they have a racial classification as colored? Black people in America mistakenly believe that black people from other places are supposed to be like us, nothing could be further from the truth. When I go to Africa I see people who look like me speaking different languages and who have a different culture. I don't chastise them for it, I accept it.
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We know. It's her and her team fault that they entered a market tone deaf with little media training.
@@traveline52 no you don’t know, because clearly you are making it her problem. Trevor Noah came into the market stating that he was mixed and would identify as coloured here in america. The problem is that she is a woman, lightskin, with biracial features, and the black community in America wants to claim her based on that criteria. Its the same concept of how people were mad that the NBA draft last year was filled with mixed men. When it comes to the men, you all dont want to claim them as black but now Tyla is a bad person because she’s claiming what she actually is which is MIXED! And also its not the coloured word that is a problem because if that is the case why do i see some people in Instagram comments using the word colored? Mind you these are black women and men using it. Just say you guys want her to claim black because shes a woman and how she looks
@@yaaodamea1125 THANK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM OF REASONING
She was interviewed in America. If I'm interviewed in S Africa I would have my PR team research the ways of that land.
She's colored, ok cool & based on some of her comments she doesn't need or want Black American community support, ok cool. Now we can focus on building within our own community.
There is 0 evidence of her saying she doesn't want AA support... She is building a diverse audience which imcludes all races....😂😂😂 Yall are trying to trap her in a black box
@@mightyrsa9772 my comment literally said it's cool for her to identify with whatever she wants and back to focusing on what's important within our own community. That doesn't negate or alternatively place her in a box in which she does not identify. What about that is "black boxing". I don't have a box to put her in.
People from America don't understand that people from different space and places differ with opinions, culture and so much more
Oh we getting it now. That's for sure. That Pan-African stuff is over. More and more Black Americans are waking up. Time to delineate and gatekeep ours.
Ya'll wanna keep it tribal, so will we.
No she doesn't need anyone approval she's loved in her country and worldwide 💯
She's not American, she's South African and as a South African she was honest in identifying as Coloured. Damn!
they just mad she's not kissing their ass like others do.
@@franckkouakou-df1tiShut up: Pasty demonic troll!
@@franckkouakou-df1tiWho is they? If you don't calm your crazy butt down! I listen to this child's music daily! You don't know all American black people, so don't talk slick about us all! Also I am a fan of Paige and sdala b, so shut up! 😠
😂 to make a sale it's imperative that you insult the customers
@@junglemayne4057 who did she insult?
Unfortunately Tyla turned off Black Americans with her “I’m not Black, I’m Colored” stuff. She should have left that apartheid stuff in SA, and adjusted her conversation for her American audience!!!🎈
It's just a term for mixed race over there
@@Rick-fe8xn Yeah, but when in France, do as The French!!
@@IsraelEmmanuel475 do as the French do but not become French
@@IsraelEmmanuel475 Why? She shouldn't compromise her identity for your comfort.
@@AJ-nd4nk It’s not her identity…..it’s the identity given to her by the colonizer!!!!
She never claimed she wasn't black, she just said in SA she is considered coloured but she is mixed with zulu , Indian ancestry
I disagree emphatically. When has “the sisterhood” EVER benefitted anyone? They will just drag her down.
Tyla needs to look for support from her people, the "Coloured" community. LOL
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She's getting plenty of support already
She has millions in SA
She has millions of people supporting her, Coloured South Africans included.
SHE ACTUALLY IS YOU GUYS ARE THE ONLY ONES PRESSED ABOUT IT.
Tyla is certainly good enough to be marketed to Ariana's crowd. Tons of them love her and her music already. I don't blame Tyla for not considering herself black. It would tank her marketability and it is innacurate because her father is Indian, so shes mixed. She is doing just want she needs to do. I am black, but if I had a mixed daughter, I would encourage her to not label herself as black because she would be only half. She would carry her father's name so she should identify more with her fathers side not mine.
Tyla is like Kamala, she is really African and East Indian, colored. They call themselves as colored not South African.
No. "Colored" is a racial category
"South african" is a nationality, of which all people from South Africa are.
Why do people have such a hard time distinguishing race and nationality? 😮💨
@@FirstnameLastname-yc2mtMeh…they’re all foreigners to me. If you’re not Soulan, you’re a foreigner or an outsider. That’s not a bad thing. It just is what it is.
Really don't care
Kamala cos plays black when it benefits her and even then it doesn't work
East Indian? Lol. You mean just Indian. Why specify the eastern region?
She needs to learn from Rihanna! Black and proud of it! Remember she is a billionaire! Speaking facts my brother! I am from Africa! People needs to understand, no matter what part of the world you are from, if you make it in America 🇺🇸! You have made it! This is the truth! Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America, Middle East , Canada, Caribbean etc
Too late. The nail is in her coffin like Lizzo. Black Americans remember everything.
Sorry, but there is millions of people in This world that have never been to America and are successful and doing great…So I disagree!!
@@godisgreat418 I agree with you! Let’s be honest! America 🇺🇸 is the country that immigrants come and build everything! I know that a majority of people from the rest of the world ,don’t want to accept the truth! You can be successful anywhere! Ask yourself why the most smartest people come to America 🇺🇸 and develop things. Google, Tesla, etc
@@godisgreat418Well, why is Tyla here?
@@traveline52U don’t need to go to America to make it. Depends what your doing😂😂😂
so many people in these comments that live in a bubble...she don't need to appease to the ever-shifting standards of FBA's to have a successful career and life in the industry. She will end up with more success and recognition than all of us in here combined, the global market is so vast.
People around the globe love Black American culture but it ain't some ultimate make or break "check-in" that she needs to acquire
She was on an American media tour with black American outlets.
@@CahluvcaAnd those outlets have global viewrs of all races... She also did Met Gala, Vogue, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, Milan Fashion Week, Kelly Clarkson, BIANCA, BBC, she did popups in France, portugal and the UK. Nothing is exclusive to one race anymore
FBA, continue to delineate.
As we should.I don't hate anyone.But I'm tired of people hating us.And for no reason.
@@jeanettejohnson7315You guys hate each other more than anything but you don’t want to talk about that though.
@@QuanPookie why are you in our talking space speaking about our situation??? Your username is clearly you tryna be snarky & funny but it’s really corny
@@jayh4911 “Our” situation? Dude I’m back just like you but the difference is I realize black people are not a monolith. Black people come in a shades, have different opinions, and different views. No one is obligated to think how you want them to think to be considered black. I’m trying to figure out who gave you and similar thinking people the power to dictate who’s black enough and who isn’t?
@@QuanPookie 💯💯
Tyla never said she is not black. Why are yall lying on her?
Black Americans hate Africans (ironically), so they're ready to pounce on any African that dares to say something against their "culture" 🤦
when did she ever disrespects black Americans? .. genuinely curious
She is never disrespected black Americans and these emotionally bankrupt men angry at her for not dating a black man is crazy she is 22
@@user-tp9ok6wk1q and she's only dated black men in Africa... Her management is also fully black😂😂
Great question cos I'm curious to
The fact that both of those terms describe the same group of people, her lack of response was mainly to disassociate herself from Black people.
She was also raised practicing colorism, otherwise it wouldn't have been an offensive and or sensitive topic.
For her and her team to identify her as black now, is no more than a business move to appeal to black business.
But coloured people have their own language and rights of passage...
Only in America does everyone speak 1 language
Is it not offensive to claim a race for financial gain? How is that authentic? And when it backfires it will have negative impact
I'm gonna call it right now I'm taking bets $20, says she ends up with a white guy and 9 times out of 10. He's gonna be a bum. Anybody wanna take that bet
Paying his bills she gone go bankrupt, then he gone put her on child support 🤣 and alimony, because he's definitely gonna be broke
@@sidneywilder2731lol
@@sidneywilder2731 and imma laugh
@@Blackrage843 in this video he said “allegedly” she got a white boyfriend and white management team
@rickjames-sy8rq yes I heard it right after I typed it in. I'm still betting he a bum
I can’t support Tyla until Chloe and Halle Bailey get their flowers.
Yes! Chloe and Halle sing like angels. 💐 🌹 🌸 🎉
They flopped. You simply don’t have the clout that you think you have. Tyla outsold all of them including Normani
@@sportsnumber1567 You mean her record company bought up her records in false numbers. I know the game
@@sportsnumber1567 our girls are not getting treated well by these labels, that’s why artist like Normani isn’t doing as well as she could. Literally all of the songs that are being giving to tyla could have been given to Normani and she would have killed it. We have a real problem with supporting the healthy growth of our own black female artist. And Chloe and Hallie did not flop they just dramatically changed their business plan and they are pretty much having to start over. But they will get back where they need to be.
@@sportsnumber1567Good, she can make it on her own back home preferably.
As a black person in South Africa, you guys need to understand that we are a very diverse nation. We don't identify each other by skin colour but rather culture. "Coloured" in SA is a whole culture. They have their own traditions, dialect, and food. Even our white people are different, the White and Boerer are completely different their skin colour may be the same but they are not. You can't force someone to change their identity and culture every time they come to your country they are not native to your country.
Bad PR team for a media tour with black American outlet. No one is trying to change how SA does things but how hard is it to explain what you are and how it isn't to be disrespectful of the "colored" history of America.
The only reasonable and acceptable explanation.
There's a common cliche to describe th behavior on the continent. This is divide and conquer. Because the continent is not united, it's weaker. Being that there are other races on earth at this time, global black unity is a necessity.
Because there's so much ego regarding each individual and separate country, the continent was easily colonized by another race of people.
The continent is similar to a neighborhood and the countries similar to that of individual houses. Because there's no "neighborhood watch program" for the entire neighborhood /continent, a thief can easily come in, rob steal and kill each individual house and nobody does anything.
@@RamDav-ph7fqYet Afrikans have never identified based on some Europeans crayon color. They identify based on ethnicity and culture.
Just like Asians do not identify as yellow but based on their diversity of cultures and ethnicities.
She doesn't rock with us. We shouldn't rock with her. She let's it be known. Stop messing with people who don't mess with us!
For 5 marks, give evidence for your claim of her not rocking with you😂😂😂
@mightyrsa9772 well you're not like us so you wouldn't know!
She is colored 😊😮
She’s Indian Asian that selectively cosplay Black American because she has a bit of African in her. 🙄
No support from me.
True. She's not Black.
She’s Black.She’s Yesterday News And She’s Gonna Fade Out With That Mgt Team She Got.
yes. which has a different meaning in South Africa than in the U.S
She's mixed race, which is a term used in South Africa.
Don't invite her to the cookout.
Good, shecan walk away alive and not get robbed or killed.
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Enjoy the unseasoned food. Lol
@@LG-universe Africans do their food their own way so do black/east indian Caribbean pple
You make that comment as if people are supposed to beg to be at this nonexistent cookout. She’s living her best life, your “cookout” is the last thing on her mind. And please tell me I’m“not like us” because that is actually a compliment.
This is ridiculous. Lol she will still have a career even if black Americans don't want her. She has the whole African continent and Europe that supports her music. She will be fine. Breaking into America was just a bonus not a necessity.
She is literally a South African Ariana Grande 😂
She’s fine asf and her album is 🔥🔥🔥she needs a song with Rihanna and Drake weeknd Harry styles the hell with the hood💯😎
The most ironic thing is that the backlash Drake faces emanates from the fact that Drake refused to embrace his Canadian identity and as a consequence opts in and out of various identities for purposes of financial gain. Tyla on the other hand does the opposite, she affirms her unambiguous Black South African identity as a Coloured woman, yet she is attacked because she refuses to be a culture vulture. She is selling her South Africanness and representing her people, a group of people mocked and marked as underachievers. She is doing the oppose of what Black American's are persecuting Drake for, yet she is also catching smoke. What do you want as a people? Do you want us to pretend to be American for financial gain or do you want us to bring to you our conceptions and experiences of Blackness, a version for of Blackness devoid of American historical contingencies or do you as Black Americans want to engage in cultural imperialism and French style assimilation which results in the washing out of the diversity that defines Blackness? Either Drake is correct or Tyla is correct where cultural identification is correct, both can't be wrong. If this is a case of losing cultural hegemony and the need to assert it via forced assimilation, say so. Dont confuse the affirmation of an ethnic identity, coloured, with the denial of racial/political identity, Blackness. Coloured people are Black.
Why do foreigners need awards from America??
Foreigner?? I am a black woman from France. Why "you" Amercan people come at Cannes every year to take awards? Ridiculous question. Jealousy...
Because when you made it over here in America, then you've really made it! International appeal.
The same reason, Americans win awards for depicting people from other parts of the world
@@peacebeyondpassion2I DISAGREE.....TO SOME EXTENT....YOU DON'T NEED TO BE FAMOUS.....YOUVE MADE IT WITHOUT BEING FAMOUS
Why must Americans get Nobel awards? 😅
In America thats a No no when you go to other countries you have to be aware of their culture it seems like when coming to the states F the culture.
exactly! for some reason they feel like they don't have to respect the culture and history over here.
Americans always go to other people’s countries and act entitled.
PR team is horrible...lead the young girl into a media tour not prepared
Was she supposed to write an exam on AA culture or something? Im confused... Just say you're xenophobic with your full chest
@@CahluvcaShe was prepared. AA are looking for any reason to trash her... The truth is she's a beautiful African, and y'all cant stand that
When did tyla say she wasnt black verbatim?
LOL they're just looking for anything to hold on to
But all you guys remember... Tyla told us a long time ago, she is NOT Black, she is "Coloured"!
it's just a category in SA. They have more categories than the US. it's not that deep
Do she know what color she is 😂😂😂😂
@@mariejane1567bra n words are dumb😭
And that's exactly what she is!!! Why is it so difficult to comprehend?
@@mariejane1567 Nah... it is... Coloureds don't mess with the blacks!!!... Messed up but that's how it is.... SO YES... IT IS THAT DEEP!!!..
Your on the internet... Go educate yourself...
She comes from a predominantly Black country that just voted for a white man to lead their country even with the legacy of Apartied. That's all you need to know about her and the people of South Africa.
That’s funny Cyril Ramaphosa is black, also race isn’t everything lol. South Africans and Africans as a whole will elect a white man who represents them and is of African birth and has embraced African culture.
I mean imagine if a white man said this about Obama you’d be crying racism.
Why r u lying? most black voters didn't go to vote because they were fedup with ANC and some had their own reasons and the few voted thats why ANC didn't get 50% or became out right majority. Black South Africans didn't go to the polls like before.
Since when did Cyril Ramaphosa become white?
Where did you get your info on SA poltics from?😐
@@robertlee5064 Google is your friend, South Africa has a black president and has had for the longest time now.
@@a_smile55THEY ,BLACK AMERICANS,ACTING STUPID OR THEY ARE STUPID
Let Tyla be. Everyone need to stop trying to make people black. For God sakes she AFRICAN if her people in Africa agrees with her not being black so be it. Secondly, black Americans please tell me we are NOT out her trying to save another person ! Another non black person who saying she don’t want to be you. Leave her be. Her audience is the white Americans. Let that be
Nah she's good. The world is bigger than America and her fan base is bigger than BET
So Then Why Did It Take For Her To Have A Hit Record In America To Be On The WORLD'S RADAR???!!!🥱
@christopherwilson6045 To be on your radar maybe. Notice you said America and not black America. We don't need to put our sisters in a cultural straightjacket. Our art and our works are bigger than black american subculture. She doesn't identify as black because that title is almost uniquely American, which is why she said colored. She never said she wasn't African.
Phil is going in too far with this one. Leave that young lady alone. That’s what they are accustomed to calling one another in South Africa. If she’s good it, then cool.
In America, a lot of people say person of color not colored. If she said person of color, would it be any different?
Coloured people have their own language and holidays, and rights of passage. And she avoids speaking on. COlouredness to protect your sensitivity 😂
They're so stupid lol
She will never make it on the pop charts without black folks.
And black folks will hold her back because she's a beautiful African who makes them insecure
She is an Indian from South Africa look at her parents
Exactly. She is a brown Indian woman, like Kamala Harris.
@@ebonydavis1754 you defeated your point because theyre both mixed, but so are all African-americans....go ask an African if you, coming from the states, are pure African...they will laugh at you. We all have Indian, white and Latino in us, along with African. Know your history
She is definitely more Indian, than she is blaxk, she looks like every Dougla/ Indian girl you see in The Caribbean islands. She is NOT Blaxk.
The Indians need to support her. She's not FBA so she needs to stay out of our mix
Fukry Podcast...why in the hell does anyone need to go on that BS podcast???
That is a good point she should have been briefed on American culture since she wants our audience . It is a shame that this always come down to race in our culture more important things to worry about in life
She is not black she is Indian white Irish!
And it doesn't seem like they're checking for her.
So you gonna diminish her Zulu side ?
Delineation is key. I can like her song and don't care about how she feels about who she is.
These studios can make a dog sould like Luther Vandross. If one is dumb enough to believe it. We don't know how she sounds.
Are you delineating because Tariq Nasheed said so?
No. We are all different, we can't expect other people to feel the way some of us feel as a black Americans. Some cultures like Dominicans don't like to be called black, because its associated with black Americans.
@@Kayla037agree they are not black Americans. I'm sure if you tell people they are of African or partial African ancestry they would not deny that. Black is parallel with Black Americans
In America black people gotta stick to together, There’s no black and brown connection in America
Is your blackness under threat by a 22yr old African
They used us to get her out there. All they're gonna do now is promote her internationally. She got off on us now she good.
Let her be herself and build her own market. Why encourage her to profit off of a community that she is not a part of?
It's funny how she markets herself as a black artist, makes black music, but doesn't want to identify with us. What audience did she think was putting her on? She said she is part Irish so why isn't she doing Irish music or something else? Her core audience is black people and she knows it. Part of that is because we felt she was relatable but instead she doesn't claim us. We are obviously just a stepping stone to her. The colonization in music is real
Good points.
She's making African music, leave that girl alone 😂
@@JexMaam she is making South African music Amapiano. She is a South African national, all young kids her age and dancing to it. Black, White, Coloured, Indian, Asian and Tyla is so in touch with her African roots. Being Coloured she acknowledge all her ancestors because in African culture that's showing Respect. Coloured is a term used in Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Swaziland and Malawi. Coloureds know they African, it's where they are born and their culture was cultivated.
@@dudleykoopman1664Has little to do with being African and more to do with being associated with the "color-black". Blacks are considered and treated as an underclass. Coloured culture was NOT cultivated it was forced upon them by the WytGoverning Powers that be to separate them! These origins is nothing to be proud about!!
Can you elaborate on how she marketed herself as black