This is an extreme exaggeration of Gore-tex capability. I own an active shell pant and a pro shell jacket. It's breaths a little better than a garbage bag, until you open pit zip. The pit zip does all the breathing. The other waterproof "breathable" jackets aren't that much better either. I used to use Gore-tex for hiking, running, snowboarding and skiing. They are extremely durable, dependable, and waterproof, but NOT REALLY BREATHABLE. I've find that if the it's raining, it's too warm for gore-tex and if it's snowing you don't need gore-tex. I am sorry for the harsh comment, but when you bought a jacket that claim to keep you dry while you do aerobic activities in the rain and you paid good money for it and then find out that you're soaked by your own sweat instead of the rain, it's disappointing. Just say that Gore-tex will let a little bit of moisture through to keep you comfortable enough as long as you're not doing prolong aerobic activities would be reasonable. How about you get some of your laboratory and marketing people out in the real world and see if the claim they are making it true. It does not appear to be.
Thanh Truong If you exercise with normal clothes on you become covered with sweat. Are you expecting this material to drink your sweat and make it vanish? Even if you're naked you'll build up sweat, and that's ultimate breathability. Lol only way you can improve that is if you wick the moisture out and spread it into a greater surface area.
I recently spent 12 hours in a driving rain storm doing mandated environmental testing in an industrial plant. I was wearing a GoreTex jacket that was purchased around 1980. When I took it off in the evening, the outside was completed wetted and on the inside, it was 100% bone dry. There was a group of scientists present who examined both my clothes and the jacket and they were amazed having been present all day and having been soaked for most of it. Like me, they have become converts. After collecting them all these years, I now have about 50 GoreTex jackets and I never stop looking for another one. Every weight, every color, every design, every insulation...I'll never stop!
I like my Gore-Tex poncho because when it rains in the summer, you basically have to have the huge pit zips open like a poncho. Yeah, really breathable.
What they need to do to check if goretex is breathable. Do a real world test get a out of shape guy, put a goretex jacket pants and boots on. Have him do a normal hike in the woods for 1 1/2 hours when it's about 40 - 45 degrees out with 100% humidity and pouring rain. I bet after he takes all his goretex breathable gear off, he and his clothes will look he walked around in the rain. He would be better off walking around without all the goretex at least he would be comfortable with his body actually breathing. I'm not out of shape and I have a North Face Summit Series jacket with goretex proshell that I have worn one and has been sitting in my closet for 6-7 years now. I went for a hike at night it was about 40 degrees out and about 1 foot of snow on the ground. I walked in the woods for about 2 hours and there was a rainforest going on inside my jacket. I was so hot clammy and uncomfortable. When I got back my shirt was so wet I squeezed so much sweat out. It was unreal.
LOL we have a suite of that material at our work for against the rain and it does work really comfortable, and rain can be so tight, i can feel there is less air in the air, because there is such an amount of water, and i got keep dry in a suit lie that its amazing.
was that test in real time? because I dont think if his wet hand was out in the open air for that much time it would have dried, let alone in that glove under water.
In my experience The effectiveness of the breathability depends a lot on how much heat you are generating. So it is fantastic for my wet weather cycling clothes. But for winter bird watching not so good. I theorise that that water gets evaporated near the skin but then cools and forms water droplets as it tries to go through the warm layers so becoming too big to go through the breathable layer. Maybe the problem is in the choice of fabrics for the warm layers.
Remember. Gore-tex works on a temperature differential. Meaning, if its a chilly day and its raining, then you will be happy and dry. However if you go out on a warm spring day to fish the lake, and its drizzling, because the temperature outside the coat is very close to the temperature inside the coat then you will get soaked.
I thought when the outer layer gets saturated with water, breathability is gone. That's the reason behind the DWR treatment, isn't it? So how come this guys dry submerged in water?!
Hi Adrian, GORE-TEX garments are breathable because of the GORE-TEX membrane that is bonded to the outer fabric. The DWR treatment is applied on top of the outer fabric. If the DWR wears off and the outer fabric becomes saturated with water, the water still won't enter through the membrane underneath and that membrane is still breathable, too. The garment would just become heavier because of the saturated outer fabric, which will also take longer to dry. The easy fix for this is to reactivate or reapply the DWR treatment. Find more info about this here: www.gore-tex.com/restoring-water-repellency 👈 In general, the DWR treatment has more to do with the waterproofness than with the breathability of a garment. You can check out these guys' waterproofness test right here if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/F9LoEMkl700/w-d-xo.html 👈 Best regards, Linda from #GORETEX
I work with Gore-tex, we do 100% water test . We put the "bootie" made of gore-tex in a machine wich inflate the "bootie" and then we sumerge to do the test. This material is very resistant and very comfortable
Poor science, you inflate the bootie? So its under pressure? Maybe gore tex works under pressure, but its physically impossible for sweat vapor to work its way out of the membrane while its wet outside, let alone submerged in water. The product is such a joke, but they have managed to corner the market with all the boot manufacturers so i cant buy an insulated leather boot without gore tex anywhere EXCEPT from Wiggy’s.
DRI Q is eVent and its horrendous stuff, I've had a few Rab jackets made of it and everyone has failed miserably, I love the cut of Ran jackets but hate they use eVent.
The breathability of Gore-tex is best in cold and dry environment. But is relatively poor in humid/rainy weather. Glove test is bullshit. Try a Gore-tex jacket during cycling or running in rain...
We'll be happy to send you a pair of testing gloves so you can check for yourself. 😉 DM us your details on Instagram, Twitter or Facebook @goretexna. 📥 Otherwise find out more about how the GORE-TEX membrane works right here: th-cam.com/video/cOO7stx89yA/w-d-xo.html
Absolute crap. I own a Gore-Tex ecwcs military jacket and trousers and if you exert yourself in them you will be drenched in sweat inside. Its certainly waterproof up to a point, but the breathability part is bullshit.
Hi there, thank you for reaching out. We are sorry to hear that you have not had a satisfactory experience with your GORE-TEX jacket and trousers. Every original GORE-TEX product offers the combination of durably waterproof protection and breathable comfort, backed by our GUARANTEED TO KEEP YOU DRY™ promise. We, therefore, kindly ask you to get in touch with our Consumer Service. Our colleagues are more than happy to assist you with this. You can contact them directly via our online form or find their contact details here: www.gore-tex.com/support/contact-us
We're very sorry to hear that! Kindly get in touch with our Consumer Service team in order for them to assist you under our GUARANTEED TO KEEP YOU DRY™ promise: bit.ly/2LbT1zE Many thanks!
This is an extreme exaggeration of Gore-tex capability. I own an active shell pant and a pro shell jacket. It's breaths a little better than a garbage bag, until you open pit zip. The pit zip does all the breathing. The other waterproof "breathable" jackets aren't that much better either. I used to use Gore-tex for hiking, running, snowboarding and skiing. They are extremely durable, dependable, and waterproof, but NOT REALLY BREATHABLE.
I've find that if the it's raining, it's too warm for gore-tex and if it's snowing you don't need gore-tex. I am sorry for the harsh comment, but when you bought a jacket that claim to keep you dry while you do aerobic activities in the rain and you paid good money for it and then find out that you're soaked by your own sweat instead of the rain, it's disappointing.
Just say that Gore-tex will let a little bit of moisture through to keep you comfortable enough as long as you're not doing prolong aerobic activities would be reasonable. How about you get some of your laboratory and marketing people out in the real world and see if the claim they are making it true. It does not appear to be.
Thanh Truong If you exercise with normal clothes on you become covered with sweat. Are you expecting this material to drink your sweat and make it vanish? Even if you're naked you'll build up sweat, and that's ultimate breathability. Lol only way you can improve that is if you wick the moisture out and spread it into a greater surface area.
@@nambinhvu three are other materials such as softshell that breaths much better than overpriced, overdesignd plastic bags.
My experience is that they are only waterproof as long as the outer is treated with water repellant.
I recently spent 12 hours in a driving rain storm doing mandated environmental testing in an industrial plant. I was wearing a GoreTex jacket that was purchased around 1980. When I took it off in the evening, the outside was completed wetted and on the inside, it was 100% bone dry. There was a group of scientists present who examined both my clothes and the jacket and they were amazed having been present all day and having been soaked for most of it. Like me, they have become converts. After collecting them all these years, I now have about 50 GoreTex jackets and I never stop looking for another one. Every weight, every color, every design, every insulation...I'll never stop!
I like my Gore-Tex poncho because when it rains in the summer, you basically have to have the huge pit zips open like a poncho. Yeah, really breathable.
What they need to do to check if goretex is breathable. Do a real world test get a out of shape guy, put a goretex jacket pants and boots on. Have him do a normal hike in the woods for 1 1/2 hours when it's about 40 - 45 degrees out with 100% humidity and pouring rain. I bet after he takes all his goretex breathable gear off, he and his clothes will look he walked around in the rain. He would be better off walking around without all the goretex at least he would be comfortable with his body actually breathing. I'm not out of shape and I have a North Face Summit Series jacket with goretex proshell that I have worn one and has been sitting in my closet for 6-7 years now. I went for a hike at night it was about 40 degrees out and about 1 foot of snow on the ground. I walked in the woods for about 2 hours and there was a rainforest going on inside my jacket. I was so hot clammy and uncomfortable. When I got back my shirt was so wet I squeezed so much sweat out. It was unreal.
LOL we have a suite of that material at our work for against the rain and it does work really comfortable, and rain can be so tight, i can feel there is less air in the air, because there is such an amount of water, and i got keep dry in a suit lie that its amazing.
is any of this true or should someone be in jail!? especially the wethand in ice water....
was that test in real time? because I dont think if his wet hand was out in the open air for that much time it would have dried, let alone in that glove under water.
Like the two of them say in the video, there is no fast forward. 😄
@@GORETEXBrand ah, cool
In my experience The effectiveness of the breathability depends a lot on how much heat you are generating. So it is fantastic for my wet weather cycling clothes. But for winter bird watching not so good. I theorise that that water gets evaporated near the skin but then cools and forms water droplets as it tries to go through the warm layers so becoming too big to go through the breathable layer. Maybe the problem is in the choice of fabrics for the warm layers.
Remember. Gore-tex works on a temperature differential. Meaning, if its a chilly day and its raining, then you will be happy and dry. However if you go out on a warm spring day to fish the lake, and its drizzling, because the temperature outside the coat is very close to the temperature inside the coat then you will get soaked.
Bass Pro shops has Gore-Tex Simms 3- layers and new 4- layers 2020 waders.
I thought when the outer layer gets saturated with water, breathability is gone. That's the reason behind the DWR treatment, isn't it? So how come this guys dry submerged in water?!
Hi Adrian,
GORE-TEX garments are breathable because of the GORE-TEX membrane that is bonded to the outer fabric. The DWR treatment is applied on top of the outer fabric.
If the DWR wears off and the outer fabric becomes saturated with water, the water still won't enter through the membrane underneath and that membrane is still breathable, too. The garment would just become heavier because of the saturated outer fabric, which will also take longer to dry. The easy fix for this is to reactivate or reapply the DWR treatment. Find more info about this here: www.gore-tex.com/restoring-water-repellency
👈
In general, the DWR treatment has more to do with the waterproofness than with the breathability of a garment. You can check out these guys' waterproofness test right here if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/F9LoEMkl700/w-d-xo.html
👈
Best regards,
Linda from #GORETEX
Gore-tex for cold and mountain climate. Thats not a tropic clothes.
but non the the guarantee not to forget that event actually isn't windproof because it lacks the pu barrier found in most membranes.
Seriously? An ad before the ad??? WTF youtube?
Forget about Goretex, I need that plaid wool jacket!!!!
I work with Gore-tex, we do 100% water test . We put the "bootie" made of gore-tex in a machine wich inflate the "bootie" and then we sumerge to do the test. This material is very resistant and very comfortable
Poor science, you inflate the bootie? So its under pressure? Maybe gore tex works under pressure, but its physically impossible for sweat vapor to work its way out of the membrane while its wet outside, let alone submerged in water. The product is such a joke, but they have managed to corner the market with all the boot manufacturers so i cant buy an insulated leather boot without gore tex anywhere EXCEPT from Wiggy’s.
"Water dropplet is bigger than perspiration dropplet so prespiration dropplet gets through gore-tex pores", isn't sweat also H2O ;-)
Polartec Neoshell, eVent and Paramo... all are more breathable and comfortable than Gore-tex membranes.
日本語字幕付き、ありがとう。
Although these videos are really cheesy, they certainly are informative :D
I likes this
Any one else think the thumbnail looked like a loading image from Oblivion?
DRI Q is eVent and its horrendous stuff, I've had a few Rab jackets made of it and everyone has failed miserably, I love the cut of Ran jackets but hate they use eVent.
The breathability of Gore-tex is best in cold and dry environment. But is relatively poor in humid/rainy weather. Glove test is bullshit. Try a Gore-tex jacket during cycling or running in rain...
Shame on you guys ..
Thermodynamics calls bullshit to the submerged glove test.
We'll be happy to send you a pair of testing gloves so you can check for yourself. 😉 DM us your details on Instagram, Twitter or Facebook @goretexna. 📥 Otherwise find out more about how the GORE-TEX membrane works right here: th-cam.com/video/cOO7stx89yA/w-d-xo.html
@@GORETEXBrand
Water vapor is going to seek equilibrium.
It's not going to move water from damp hand to submerged water.
no glove no love
😂
Shameless salesmen with a poor attempt at humour to sell you a useless product. I’d love to see them counting those 9 billion pores.
Wow, the cringe, plus the first test was BS. There was no gradient.
This looks like a condom commercial
Absolute crap. I own a Gore-Tex ecwcs military jacket and trousers and if you exert yourself in them you will be drenched in sweat inside. Its certainly waterproof up to a point, but the breathability part is bullshit.
Hi there, thank you for reaching out. We are sorry to hear that you have not had a satisfactory experience with your GORE-TEX jacket and trousers. Every original GORE-TEX product offers the combination of durably waterproof protection and breathable comfort, backed by our GUARANTEED TO KEEP YOU DRY™ promise. We, therefore, kindly ask you to get in touch with our Consumer Service. Our colleagues are more than happy to assist you with this. You can contact them directly via our online form or find their contact details here: www.gore-tex.com/support/contact-us
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that sounds horrible
@rob01244 :-) cheesy
NO, gore tex is NOT WATERPROOF. I have adidas goretex swift it proof water for 30m then all wet inside, i tried different goretex shoes its the same.
We're very sorry to hear that! Kindly get in touch with our Consumer Service team in order for them to assist you under our GUARANTEED TO KEEP YOU DRY™ promise: bit.ly/2LbT1zE Many thanks!
such an annoying video. from literally the first sound, super loud.
Corny