Dude you're doing this all by yourself right? HOW in the world are you able to do this much output every few days? In this quality? Like hooooow? Great video production and memes, exceptional jams, exceptional gear knowledge and all the forum posts you put in there... Das ist doch Wahnsinn!!
@@AudioPilz machst du das ganze hauptberuflich mit Patreon und evtl Streams? Find ich schon wirklich sick. Das nimmt doch soo viel Zeit in Anspruch. Kann nur sagen, dass du die unterhaltsamsten und am besten produziertesten Videos zu Synthies hier auf YT machst, die ich kenne :) Props!
The ancient wisdom that 'Everybody Needs a 303' has been passed down through the ages since it was brought to us by the holey Norman Cook in the time before remembering (1996).
We’ve bought the last 2 demo units in Canada, the tr-8 or 8s is required to perform with it if you don’t have a beatstep pro, the scatter going to midi on the tr-8 is it’s most defining characteristic.
I knew the TR-6S was coming to your great show and now here it is. I actually own one and generally like it. The biggest advantages for me are the wide variety of kits, patterns and samples stuffed into this little box that I can throw in my backpack for gigging. It sounds pretty good, too. However, it is a PITA to menu dive in deep and conjure up everything that it can do. This is made especially complicated with that tiny, '90s-vintage LED screen. The front panel labeling (grey letters over black plastic) barely hint at very important SHIFT functions. I had to work out these as memory items and use muscle memory to reliably access these functions. In an ideal world for me the TR-8S would be my next drum machine, but in the meantime I labor on with the compromise of my little TR-6S. Again, Great video!
I've been meaning to comment for some time. I really appreciate the unique, consistent, and entertaining way you demonstrate the sounds and features of the gear you look at. Really refreshing given the sameness of a lot of other channels. Shows a dedication to originality which I appreciate. And the music you write for each episode is fantastic - very musical, deep and sophisticated but unpretentious. Also, your meme game is 10/10 lit. Keep it up!!
that initial "i have no idea what im doing" phase is my favorite part of buying any new box. always seem to make the coolest and most creative (and listenable) stuff before i actually learn how to use the thing
Looks like I am not the only one who watched a ton of reviews for the SH-4D and had the same thought. That this thing is a job for our favorite critic. 🤣
Brilliant episode as usual. I was torn between getting this and the MC-101. Went for the 101 and love it (would love to get a video on it too!) but the TR-6S is till on my list for the future. As a complete beginner/n00b these Roland boxes are actually great - limiting your options isn't always a bad thing when you're still learning the basics!
You definitely get more bang for your buck with the MC-101, the TR-6S is a lot of fun though and the drum machine sounds are better (ACB rather than samples). Although, the MC-101 has CR-78 kits, which is awesome!
@@sawtooth808 go wash your mouth out with soap. It’s only a matter of time before the SH-4d makes its appearance on Bad Gear. Stick with pre-2000 Roland gear, and you may do ok, anything after that, and it’s probably going to appear here.
these videos are so good! I think this might be the best yet. Love the little bits of music you make with these but I would love to hear like an hour's worth lol especially with the visuals
I have and really love the TR6s big brother the TR8s. This point you make on chromatic note entry is *spot on*. It's a criminal amount of purposeful limitation that stops the TR8s from being one of the greatest all around machines Roland's ever made. That said, I workaround this problem with an RK002 cable with the TR8s note program installed and an Arturia Keystep to melodic note entry. It works but it feels so clunky! Come on ROLAND! Give us the last piece of the puzzle!
I just *know* you're already salivating at that new Roland synth they announced yesterday. It's amazing that they finally created a good modern groovebox in the MC-707 and they immediately went back to 2000's SH-32 tier throwaway cheese. I still love them though.
@@sawtooth808 It looks like a very powerful sound module. That i would be better off using a laptop instead of. It doesn't seem to bring much character to the table, or much in the way of UI
07:11 I would recomend Micro T18 nobs from Thonk (or something similar) for volca keys so you can see what you have set the nobs at a glance from more than 10cm away. [this gives you tiny bit less finger space and less grip so if you always crank your nobs quickly and often then maybe not for you] You can still see the nobs light up through T18 nobs as you turn them except very dark colours they are quite hard to pull off once pushed on, so pick what you want where before you push em on
@@AudioPilz yeah, guess it's more useful for people learning My First Synth and need to see what's going on, rather than people with access to a vast Austrian Synth Vaults ;)
@@AudioPilz I am extremely eager to hear what you have to say about it. I have it as a total nyub and I am eager to see what an aficionado's eyes can inform me that I am missing the most so I can consider add ons that complement it best, speed me up, and save frustration. The audio and loop 12 minute mono (total) limitation is not great but live-with-able and the sampling process is ROUGH, but it DOES SO MUCH jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none-ing, that paired with Zenbeats for effects control (especially if they add vocal tracks aka sampling) it is hard to see how it is not a slightly less convenient/immediate version of many other pieces of gear combined. Especially if your mini keys has CC knobs and sliders. So I want to know what isn't just inconvenient but TRULY missing for synth-pragmatists (Rompler will do) who HATE daw complexity but still want the power of a daw. Like a Baby's First (and only) Daw.
@@AudioPilz And besides. Nearly EVERYONE hates it except for 5 regulars on the MV-1 thread. I saw a poll on Reddit between MV-1 and SP404 MK2 and you'd have though the MV-1 was dysentery.
@@mycosys Maschine is 600. MPC One is 660. Push 2 is 800. I bought MV-1 for 425. So it is great deal if it does what I need enough. Vocal effects were my main target and though Maschine and MPC One have vocal processing but the parameters are FAR more limiting almost definitely resulting in some degree of robotic vocals no matter how talented the singer. For parameters MPC One has key/scale, sensitivity, and range. Maschine has key/scale, note limit and correction speed. MV-1 has formant (One's range), stability (One's sensitivity), speed (Mashine's speed), type (this is smoothness outside of speed - neither have this), a straight shift control, and the biggest one is the ability to set to a specific key versus chromatic (that's huge). Also the harmonizer is SO customizable that you make it a second form of correction if you turn it mild enough. Again, this is all live effects. Not post. More brutish autotunes like One and Maschine are for people who can't sing AT ALL and need a lot of correction. More nuanced correction like on the MV-1 is for a real vocalist who only needs slight correction only. You need parameters for that to turn things to where it isn't hardly doing anything at all. MV-1 is the only autotune hardware that I found (that isn't a fortune) that can do that. All the hubs you mentioned are WAY more feature rich than the MV-1 but they don't have the main feature I need and simplicity. Push controls a daw (not simple). Maschine and One are basically daws in a box but complex ones. MV-1 is more like a hardware daw. A super simple one but it is. It holds your hand (as long as sampling isn't a big thing for you) and gets it simply done. Everything I truly need and nothing I truly don't. WITH THAT SAID, I would like to know good compliments for certain features that I am not realizing are slowing me down. Mr. Pilz might do that. I already know I didn't make a mistake with the MV-1 in making it my centerpiece. But I would like to see someone with knowledge complain about certain features and point out how it should be instead, so I can see exactly where I am encumbered-unaware.
never clicked on anything so quickly! sitting here making a beat with my 6s, so happy it got the Bad Gear treatment, it really is a fantastic little machine 😀😀😀😀😀
I had a TR-6S, I liked it! I think it was marketed very badly by Roland, but for a box not much bigger than a Volca you get all the classic Roland sounds via ACB, and more besides. Although the 2-line display sucks, the workflow choices are very clever, it's a well designed piece of kit. Ultimately I sold it to buy a TR-8S for more hands on control and direct access to certain parameters
I wanted a DX200 so much back in the day, I still dream about it occasionally. It certainly has its bugs & quirks but it doesn’t make me want one any less. In other news…. I believe Roland just released a new Bad Gear product this week. Looking forward to this future show!
I actually just got the TR 6S. Honestly I like it alot. One thing I never see mentioned on any of the videos about it is the standalone software that allows you edit all the parameters without so much menu diving. Is it the BEST software? No it is not. But it works. It is convenient. And for those who like to have the full step sequencer for all 6 tracks in front of them while they program it is quite nice. With that said though, I am an amateur enthusiast with a modest set up, so this works for ME and I still find most, if not all of the points, in this video valid and informative. A great watch for someone who isn't quite sure what they could be getting into.
I don't think it's bad at all, just a bit small and limited! I have my SD card filled with tons of rare vintage analog machines, not just Roland ones! It is my extended sample library machine of my favorites! Works like a charm with my keystep, and various synth modules. Very easy to make great EBM and Minimal jams! Nice that you can tune and filter the drum sounds! Keeping my TR-6S, much better than the thin sounding Volca Beat, which i soon sold!
I really liked my TR-6s before I sold it to continue the never-ending gear merry-go-round. It was particularly great for super quickly generating ideas by randomly scrolling through preset sounds to existing patterns
"the never-ending gear merry-go-round". That is perfect. Total sums it up. Although I fell off the merry-go-round approximately 30 days ago (I still have 60 days of the Logic Pro X trial left) and I've not looked back 🤫
The 6S is awesome, super good value for the money (if you get it cheap, and it's easy to pick this one up for cheap) and the ACB drums are fantastic. Only missing feature that drives me crazy is no sidechain, though no multi-outs will bother others (but then, no multi-out gives no external sidechain workarounds). The faders alone add an absolute ton of live-play options.
No sidechain? I have a TR-8S and there's a few different sidechain types to choose from, can be applied to any instrument. Just needs a bit of menu diving. But I already forget which menu it's in!
@@alexwestconsulting maybe its a thing they forgot to delete from the stripped-down tr-8s firmware. or maybe they will fix this in upcoming firmware by adding in menu the instruments to be sidechained.
@@alexsicko I hope they add it but I’m not holding my breath. If Roland actually came through on this, I would recommend the tr6s to no end. As it is, I end up using the novation circuit rhythm the most because of its sidechaining. I mean, when I’m dawless and not using the akai. Without sidechain, it’s just not something I can use live, or even jamming really. When I do use it, I have to not use bass drum on it so I can sidechain the rest of the tracks to an external bass drum.
@@AudioPilz any chance you can recommend me some GOOD gear drum machines in this same price range?? im a songwriter who records to a Tascam Portastudio (hate using DAWs), and I just want something fun and intuitive thats geared more towards programming songs than live performance. i think i've heard you mention the Korg Electribe 1 a lot?
Roland's gonna Roland indeed. I had a MC-101 and of course it wasn't enough for my needs so I got an MC-707. But the MC-707, while have a lot more features than the MC-101, also misses a few the MC-101 has (e.g. 3 knobs per track vs 4 vs being able to manipulate all tracks at the same time vs 1). And the 101 was upgraded to allow full access to ZenCore, and it's portable. So now I'm looking at the MC-101 again while my wife is looking for divorce. :P (j/k about that last bit, she's amazing :D)
Thank you for a great video! A few months ago I bought a tr 6s, used at 2/3 of the store price. I think this amount is completely justified, otherwise it is quite overpriced. Portability and battery power are nice when you want to lie in bed and study the manual in a comfortable position, hoping that it will help you fall asleep quickly. With no dedicated buttons on the panel, operating this device is an art in itself, requires a lot of memorization that must pass to muscle memory... From the objective design flaws, I believe that placing the headphone port on the front of the device is a disaster, because once you are lying down in bed reading the manual, the headphone cable bends against your knees and you are constantly afraid of breaking it, which prevents you from enjoying the peaceful weeks of memorizing menu shortcuts.
your timing is impeccable as always. we have a tr-8s around the studio that i've never looked at, but i plugged it in yesterday and found it kind of frustrating in a lot ways similar to the 6s. the tr editor software on a mac/pc helps a bit. made me appreciate my korg electribe sampler all the more (you should do a BG on that one!)
I feel like the MC-101 is only a few episodes away now. (I love mine, and it’s strangely a sense of validation when some of your gear makes it onto BG)
This show has actually cured my g.a.s. I still struggle internally to leave a rompler on the shelf but I haven’t bought more than an lightning to headphone adapter in over a year.
I literally can’t wait for every new video you share ! Best counter reviews on youtube ♥️ I have a question for you, you said :”some of its better competitors” which ones would they be ? I’m finding it hard to find any better value for the package Roland offers. Unless it’s way pricier Many thanks !
ohhhhh come on! The TR6-S is as about as much drum machine goodness as it's possible to get for £300, I think it punches above it's weight and never fails to sound good in a mix. I bought one unsure if I'd keep it, and the wee thing has remained in my setup ever since
I have a Tr-8s and love that thing. I always end up using it on some tracks. it cuts through the mix and goes well with other drum machines. I had loaded some classic break samples in it, and it was insane. I don't know how much they cut out on this 6S, but from your vid, it seems like a lot. there are a lot of things I with the 8S did, but , it is still extremely capable.
I guess we'll see MC101 soon...lol I personally enjoy the MC101 quite a lot except that making a 'song' in it is just as frustrating as using it live and it wasn't even designed to do songs, it was added way later in a function called "Scene Chain". Also the 101's pads REALLY suck. I'm constantly getting failed triggers because you have to hit the pads dead center. I'll be hammering out a bassline while recording and stop and restart cause one of the pads just decided my aim isn't perfect enough and punished me with silence. That said, it's probably the most powerful little battery powered mini workstation you can buy (at least in dedicated hardware form...obviously you can get a handheld computer and run a full DAW if you wanted)...The TR6S would be fun as a 'how far can we push this without multitracking' machine, but I've already got a 101 for that...at least I can play chords on it. :P
@@artisans8521 There's also Korg Gadget for Switch. Tons of 'use this other thing as music gear' options these days, but dedicated is rare and my opinion still stands. I think the only thing that might compare is Deluge.
I tell myself I'll just watch the new episode in realtime and won't pause and hunt with the frame-by-frame keyboard shortcuts to read all the memes, then I pause and hunt with the frame-by-frame keyboard shortcuts to read all the memes, yet again. And it's always worth it.
lol. you described my journey. I had the TR6s for a while but I hit a ceiling soon with the limitations. I upgraded after a bit to the TR8s after a short while and love its bigger brother.
cool - again a "bad" gear that i can sell now for more ;) - D-Beam or now D-Motion ... waiting for a Modal Cobalt review ... than i can sell that as well and get a the new Roland SH4d which will than be on your show in 6-12month ;) But that said well done and cool jams (evil?)
@@TheSciHi Sure it does 😁. Ticking all the boxes. More Shortcuts than knobs, Tiny but useful Display, Filter knob with no heft, Midi CC Assignment for less inititate ones, Sound is thin like a (insert a cool meme with Thin toilet paper) ... Come-on totally bad gear treatment worthy.
@@kaikiefer8303 Sure it doesn't. For a such feature packed synth that also has enormous mod matrix, shortcuts are necessary, unless you want something Prophet-worthy, with adequate price tag. To add insult to injury all top reviewers from Nick Batt to Benn Jordan are praising it's sound, especially in bottom end area, which is suprisingly massive for a VA synth. Yes, it's got some quirks (which many od had been adressed in 2.0 firmware upgrade) and one could (meanly) joke about Cobalt being no more than VST in a box. But capabilities- and sound design- wisely? Please.
@@TheSciHi 😁 no mercy ! It has to happen. Florian 📢 - ok let me try it differently, my 8m(V2) here in my setup - gets always puts up a fight. When his neighbors( blofeld, TR6S, JdXi) bragging about their Bad Gear Experiences. 😊
Look up dy reck wha had happened was, if you do a video in that format copying his exact vocal affectations I'll hop on the Patreon even though im homeless
One of my favorite Yt channels for sure. I own this for a few weeks now (with the help of this video ) and was wondering why on startup it does default to Pattern 1 and not the last Pattern-Project i was working on
@@AudioPilz from what I remember and understand , you can save which project should be the default one, but not make the machine remember which project was the last one and start there. Unless I misinterpreted the Roland answer when I googled this question. Need to double check when I am home again
There is a possibility for chromatic notes though, you have to set the Control knob for the respective instrument to "coarse" and then adjust each note through the motion control. Each value on coarse tune will make it go up or down one half step
AudioPilz: Makes video focusing on Roland thing, with a Volca Keys once again lurking to the side delivering a sick detuned bass, making me want it more than said Roland thing.
Mindblowing amount of work and quality again in this video. That DnB track was a very nice surprise, and sounds like a beast growling. Very nicely done! By the way, have you done any Native Instruments gear review?
Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel*
Full Tracks, Extended Jams, Sample Packs: www.patreon.com/audiopilz
What!! this is awesome man. Thanks!
Please test one of the sonicware livens the db ,, xfm,,,or the ,,8bit,, greatings from 🐩---🇩🇪
PLEASE DO ONE ON AKAI XR 10 !! I CAN SHI IT TO YOU IF YOU WANT !
Bad gear bingo completed! You've covered every piece of gear I own
Congratulations!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm happy that you've not _completely_ trashed any of them at least, my dignity and buyers remorse remain mostly unscathed lol
I'm _so_ close, I thought this would be an MC-101 episode and that is the last piece left for me
@@Yuzuki1337 you'll get there soon :D
You are a machine. You are consistently producing excellent content. I salute you 🫡
Thank you so much!!!
Dude you're doing this all by yourself right?
HOW in the world are you able to do this much output every few days? In this quality? Like hooooow? Great video production and memes, exceptional jams, exceptional gear knowledge and all the forum posts you put in there...
Das ist doch Wahnsinn!!
Vielen Dank!!! I have a pretty rigid workflow regime...
@@AudioPilz machst du das ganze hauptberuflich mit Patreon und evtl Streams?
Find ich schon wirklich sick. Das nimmt doch soo viel Zeit in Anspruch.
Kann nur sagen, dass du die unterhaltsamsten und am besten produziertesten Videos zu Synthies hier auf YT machst, die ich kenne :)
Props!
@@AudioPilz I love to say aloud what you are going to say as the intro plays! Don't change it, it's too catchy!
@@TheJanda777 haha i do the same
@@AudioPilz Dict*tor
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What this show has taught me is that no music can exist without TB-3.
The ancient wisdom that 'Everybody Needs a 303' has been passed down through the ages since it was brought to us by the holey Norman Cook in the time before remembering (1996).
Untrue. Only the Roland RA50 gives meaning to your existence :)
Word!
We’ve bought the last 2 demo units in Canada, the tr-8 or 8s is required to perform with it if you don’t have a beatstep pro, the scatter going to midi on the tr-8 is it’s most defining characteristic.
Dude, your music and creativity is FANTASTIC!!!
Thank you so much!!!
“Roland gonna Roland”, no truer words were ever spoken lol!!
😀😀😀
ALMOST! When I squint my eyes it almost looks like 101! WOW! Impressive progress in a good direction ;) Great video! Thanks!
True that!!! Thanks for watching!
@@AudioPilz As always I did it with great pleasure. Clips at the end of the video are absolutely stunning!
Your way of processing and creating stuff is just great. Thanks for all of that.
Thank you so much!!!
You have literally done more in the last 9 mins of that video, than I've done in the year I've owned that tool ..keep up the great work 👍
Thank you so much!!!
I knew the TR-6S was coming to your great show and now here it is. I actually own one and generally like it. The biggest advantages for me are the wide variety of kits, patterns and samples stuffed into this little box that I can throw in my backpack for gigging. It sounds pretty good, too. However, it is a PITA to menu dive in deep and conjure up everything that it can do. This is made especially complicated with that tiny, '90s-vintage LED screen. The front panel labeling (grey letters over black plastic) barely hint at very important SHIFT functions. I had to work out these as memory items and use muscle memory to reliably access these functions. In an ideal world for me the TR-8S would be my next drum machine, but in the meantime I labor on with the compromise of my little TR-6S. Again, Great video!
Agreed!!! Thanks!!!
Dude, you really are on the bleeding edge. I love your videos, the reviews are ace but my fav is your montage jams. Choice!!! Cheers
Thank you so much!!!
@@AudioPilz Seriously - Thank you for what you do!!! Top vibe
I've been meaning to comment for some time. I really appreciate the unique, consistent, and entertaining way you demonstrate the sounds and features of the gear you look at. Really refreshing given the sameness of a lot of other channels. Shows a dedication to originality which I appreciate. And the music you write for each episode is fantastic - very musical, deep and sophisticated but unpretentious. Also, your meme game is 10/10 lit. Keep it up!!
Thank you so much!!!
that initial "i have no idea what im doing" phase is my favorite part of buying any new box. always seem to make the coolest and most creative (and listenable) stuff before i actually learn how to use the thing
Agreed!!!
Looking forward to the (inevitable) SH-4D episode.
I was expecting a 0-day to drop for it! That would have been priceless.
Let's see if I can get hold of one of these;)
Looks like I am not the only one who watched a ton of reviews for the SH-4D and had the same thought. That this thing is a job for our favorite critic. 🤣
@@roland4507 I really like it
@@roland4507 see even Roland wants to see it here! 😂
Track 2, absolutely phenomenal sounding bass line!……………from the Volca! Much love and appreciation!
Thank you!!!
I love this show. It serves to remind me of the dangers and pitfalls that await me should I continue impulse buying.
Thanks but impulse buys are the BEST!!!
impulse tracker buying
@@an2qzavok Haha! You might gonna need DOSBox for that! 😂
Brilliant episode as usual. I was torn between getting this and the MC-101. Went for the 101 and love it (would love to get a video on it too!) but the TR-6S is till on my list for the future. As a complete beginner/n00b these Roland boxes are actually great - limiting your options isn't always a bad thing when you're still learning the basics!
Thank you!!!
You definitely get more bang for your buck with the MC-101, the TR-6S is a lot of fun though and the drum machine sounds are better (ACB rather than samples). Although, the MC-101 has CR-78 kits, which is awesome!
Pair the mc 101 &/or the tr 6s with the new Roland synth just revealed yesterday, and a person would have a decent Roland set up
@@sawtooth808 go wash your mouth out with soap. It’s only a matter of time before the SH-4d makes its appearance on Bad Gear. Stick with pre-2000 Roland gear, and you may do ok, anything after that, and it’s probably going to appear here.
@@mastercylinder1939 bad gear =/= bad. sometimes it's the user
That's it, I subscribed :D Love the insanity, original take and your jams with all the "bad" gear!
Thank you so much!!! Stick around!
considering the size of it, quite impressive how much is packed into it. Roland engineers did an impressive job
Big kudos to the people behind the tech!!!
I have the TR-8S and the MC-707 and they are excellent machines! Great videos as always
Thank you!!!
these videos are so good! I think this might be the best yet. Love the little bits of music you make with these but I would love to hear like an hour's worth lol especially with the visuals
Thank you so much!!!
I have and really love the TR6s big brother the TR8s. This point you make on chromatic note entry is *spot on*. It's a criminal amount of purposeful limitation that stops the TR8s from being one of the greatest all around machines Roland's ever made. That said, I workaround this problem with an RK002 cable with the TR8s note program installed and an Arturia Keystep to melodic note entry. It works but it feels so clunky! Come on ROLAND! Give us the last piece of the puzzle!
100% 👌
True! Retrokits to the rescue!!!
I just *know* you're already salivating at that new Roland synth they announced yesterday. It's amazing that they finally created a good modern groovebox in the MC-707 and they immediately went back to 2000's SH-32 tier throwaway cheese. I still love them though.
I'd love me some 2000s throwaway cheese;)
Ah, the Sh 4d, that looks good, and weird (in the good way)
@@sawtooth808 It looks like a very powerful sound module. That i would be better off using a laptop instead of. It doesn't seem to bring much character to the table, or much in the way of UI
07:11 I would recomend Micro T18 nobs from Thonk (or something similar) for volca keys so you can see what you have set the nobs at a glance from more than 10cm away. [this gives you tiny bit less finger space and less grip so if you always crank your nobs quickly and often then maybe not for you] You can still see the nobs light up through T18 nobs as you turn them except very dark colours
they are quite hard to pull off once pushed on, so pick what you want where before you push em on
These are nice but I more or less use the Keys for reese bass exclusively;)
@@AudioPilz yeah, guess it's more useful for people learning My First Synth and need to see what's going on, rather than people with access to a vast Austrian Synth Vaults ;)
That trance jam needs to be a full track
Thanks!!! There actually is one on my Patreon (shameless plug;)
@@AudioPilz Awesome!!! 🔥👊🧡👍🔥
Super extra bonus points for the Brubeck meme. Excellent as always!
Thank you!!!
I love that the Techno Viking showed up in this vid. One of the oldest and most beloved internet phenomena.
I admire this man!
The "foundations" chicken walking all over the wet cement killed me! That was a good one! You've got lots of them. Cheers!
Edu from NY.
Has the MV-1 been done yet? The sheer mass of Roland black and green boxes on this show has my brain in knots.
That one really belongs on Bad Gear!!! Thanks for the suggestion!!!
@@AudioPilz I am extremely eager to hear what you have to say about it. I have it as a total nyub and I am eager to see what an aficionado's eyes can inform me that I am missing the most so I can consider add ons that complement it best, speed me up, and save frustration. The audio and loop 12 minute mono (total) limitation is not great but live-with-able and the sampling process is ROUGH, but it DOES SO MUCH jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none-ing, that paired with Zenbeats for effects control (especially if they add vocal tracks aka sampling) it is hard to see how it is not a slightly less convenient/immediate version of many other pieces of gear combined. Especially if your mini keys has CC knobs and sliders. So I want to know what isn't just inconvenient but TRULY missing for synth-pragmatists (Rompler will do) who HATE daw complexity but still want the power of a daw. Like a Baby's First (and only) Daw.
@@AudioPilz And besides. Nearly EVERYONE hates it except for 5 regulars on the MV-1 thread. I saw a poll on Reddit between MV-1 and SP404 MK2 and you'd have though the MV-1 was dysentery.
@@kendallcurtis7863 Try an MPC One, or Ableton Push, or Maschine of any flavour. All of them cost less than that thing and do FAR more
@@mycosys Maschine is 600. MPC One is 660. Push 2 is 800. I bought MV-1 for 425. So it is great deal if it does what I need enough. Vocal effects were my main target and though Maschine and MPC One have vocal processing but the parameters are FAR more limiting almost definitely resulting in some degree of robotic vocals no matter how talented the singer. For parameters MPC One has key/scale, sensitivity, and range. Maschine has key/scale, note limit and correction speed. MV-1 has formant (One's range), stability (One's sensitivity), speed (Mashine's speed), type (this is smoothness outside of speed - neither have this), a straight shift control, and the biggest one is the ability to set to a specific key versus chromatic (that's huge). Also the harmonizer is SO customizable that you make it a second form of correction if you turn it mild enough. Again, this is all live effects. Not post. More brutish autotunes like One and Maschine are for people who can't sing AT ALL and need a lot of correction. More nuanced correction like on the MV-1 is for a real vocalist who only needs slight correction only. You need parameters for that to turn things to where it isn't hardly doing anything at all. MV-1 is the only autotune hardware that I found (that isn't a fortune) that can do that.
All the hubs you mentioned are WAY more feature rich than the MV-1 but they don't have the main feature I need and simplicity. Push controls a daw (not simple). Maschine and One are basically daws in a box but complex ones. MV-1 is more like a hardware daw. A super simple one but it is. It holds your hand (as long as sampling isn't a big thing for you) and gets it simply done. Everything I truly need and nothing I truly don't.
WITH THAT SAID, I would like to know good compliments for certain features that I am not realizing are slowing me down. Mr. Pilz might do that. I already know I didn't make a mistake with the MV-1 in making it my centerpiece. But I would like to see someone with knowledge complain about certain features and point out how it should be instead, so I can see exactly where I am encumbered-unaware.
never clicked on anything so quickly! sitting here making a beat with my 6s, so happy it got the Bad Gear treatment, it really is a fantastic little machine 😀😀😀😀😀
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I had a TR-6S, I liked it! I think it was marketed very badly by Roland, but for a box not much bigger than a Volca you get all the classic Roland sounds via ACB, and more besides. Although the 2-line display sucks, the workflow choices are very clever, it's a well designed piece of kit.
Ultimately I sold it to buy a TR-8S for more hands on control and direct access to certain parameters
Yeah, the TR-8S is a different beast!
This is great for saving space if you want a drum machine and don’t have enough space for more synths!
Been watching you for a long while now and absolutely love your channel. Please keep up the good work. Cheers. Gaz. UK
Thank you so much!!!
I wanted a DX200 so much back in the day, I still dream about it occasionally. It certainly has its bugs & quirks but it doesn’t make me want one any less. In other news….
I believe Roland just released a new Bad Gear product this week. Looking forward to this future show!
Yeah, the new Roland is definitely worth a look!
I actually just got the TR 6S. Honestly I like it alot. One thing I never see mentioned on any of the videos about it is the standalone software that allows you edit all the parameters without so much menu diving. Is it the BEST software? No it is not. But it works. It is convenient. And for those who like to have the full step sequencer for all 6 tracks in front of them while they program it is quite nice. With that said though, I am an amateur enthusiast with a modest set up, so this works for ME and I still find most, if not all of the points, in this video valid and informative. A great watch for someone who isn't quite sure what they could be getting into.
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I have no idea how you can manage to learn a new device, produce a high quality video, and tracks, e.ve.ry week without burning out!
Perfect!
I like espresso;)
I know right. Like I’m burning out just by watching these
@@AudioPilz now we all know what to get you for Christmas
I don't think it's bad at all, just a bit small and limited! I have my SD card filled with tons of rare vintage analog machines, not just Roland ones! It is my extended sample library machine of my favorites! Works like a charm with my keystep, and various synth modules. Very easy to make great EBM and Minimal jams! Nice that you can tune and filter the drum sounds! Keeping my TR-6S, much better than the thin sounding Volca Beat, which i soon sold!
Nice technique!
I really like your format and how you mixdown a new track using the gear every show. Cool stuff man
Thank you so much!!!
I really liked my TR-6s before I sold it to continue the never-ending gear merry-go-round.
It was particularly great for super quickly generating ideas by randomly scrolling through preset sounds to existing patterns
That's what I did for a week;)
"the never-ending gear merry-go-round". That is perfect. Total sums it up. Although I fell off the merry-go-round approximately 30 days ago (I still have 60 days of the Logic Pro X trial left) and I've not looked back 🤫
Also one of the talents of Model:Samples, and Maschine
wie immer informativ, unterhaltsam und kurzweilig...superdanke
Vielen Dank!!!
The 6S is awesome, super good value for the money (if you get it cheap, and it's easy to pick this one up for cheap) and the ACB drums are fantastic. Only missing feature that drives me crazy is no sidechain, though no multi-outs will bother others (but then, no multi-out gives no external sidechain workarounds). The faders alone add an absolute ton of live-play options.
The faders are awesome!!!
No sidechain? I have a TR-8S and there's a few different sidechain types to choose from, can be applied to any instrument. Just needs a bit of menu diving. But I already forget which menu it's in!
@@coltonmuri3672 TR-8S can sidechain on the external input but not internally. TR-6S has no audio inputs and so can't sidechain.
@@alexwestconsulting maybe its a thing they forgot to delete from the stripped-down tr-8s firmware. or maybe they will fix this in upcoming firmware by adding in menu the instruments to be sidechained.
@@alexsicko I hope they add it but I’m not holding my breath. If Roland actually came through on this, I would recommend the tr6s to no end. As it is, I end up using the novation circuit rhythm the most because of its sidechaining. I mean, when I’m dawless and not using the akai. Without sidechain, it’s just not something I can use live, or even jamming really. When I do use it, I have to not use bass drum on it so I can sidechain the rest of the tracks to an external bass drum.
As a TR6s user I agree with everything you say in your review, bang on as ever.
Thank you!!!
1 min release time
Lets look what spicy memes and banger Audiopilz has store for us
Hell yes!!!
We're at this point in time where I'm certain you've already done an episode on this before.
No, that one had slipped my attention;)
man every time i come to a decision about wanting a certain piece of gear i search it on youtube and this channel is the first result 😂
Nothing personal;)
@@AudioPilz any chance you can recommend me some GOOD gear drum machines in this same price range?? im a songwriter who records to a Tascam Portastudio (hate using DAWs), and I just want something fun and intuitive thats geared more towards programming songs than live performance. i think i've heard you mention the Korg Electribe 1 a lot?
im waiting this show and now is midnight here in South East Asia🤣 this become ritual every week
LOVE SEA!!! Went to university in BKK!!!
Many thanks for the dnb part!
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the new Roland SH 4D has a D-Beam, they brought it back! though i think they call it 'D-Motion' now.
Demotion;)
First the Intro 😍
and the videoooo! 🫠🤪🤩
Thank you for your excellency🤖✅
Thank you so much for watching!!!
I almost went for the 6S, but like you stated; the 8s had a better value, it seemed
I'd totally prefer the one with the actual UI;)
I went for the 6S since I couldnt afford the 8s. And honestly if I could the 8s is way too fucking big. I like the 606 size of the 6s.
@@eightcoins4401 makes total sense if you’re working with limited space.
@@eightcoins4401 same here...plus battery AND USB power make this just so damn portable. I've taken it on OS trips and had a great time with it
@@GuidoGautsch Battieres also imo made it more fun. Have programmed some shit on it in bed before cuz why not.
Agree, but the form factor of the 6s and the editor makes it a real winner. Loved the video:)
Thank you!!!
I'm still waiting for the day the TR8s makes it to the show!
Let's see if I can find an excuse for that;)
Yay, time for my favorite show on the internet
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Nice review. It’s a lot more powerful than I thought. I’d still rather have something by Elektron though.
Thanks!!! Same here!!!
The timing of this particular episode could NOT be more perfect
Pure coincidence;)
Roland's gonna Roland indeed. I had a MC-101 and of course it wasn't enough for my needs so I got an MC-707. But the MC-707, while have a lot more features than the MC-101, also misses a few the MC-101 has (e.g. 3 knobs per track vs 4 vs being able to manipulate all tracks at the same time vs 1). And the 101 was upgraded to allow full access to ZenCore, and it's portable. So now I'm looking at the MC-101 again while my wife is looking for divorce. :P (j/k about that last bit, she's amazing :D)
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Thank you for a great video! A few months ago I bought a tr 6s, used at 2/3 of the store price. I think this amount is completely justified, otherwise it is quite overpriced. Portability and battery power are nice when you want to lie in bed and study the manual in a comfortable position, hoping that it will help you fall asleep quickly. With no dedicated buttons on the panel, operating this device is an art in itself, requires a lot of memorization that must pass to muscle memory... From the objective design flaws, I believe that placing the headphone port on the front of the device is a disaster, because once you are lying down in bed reading the manual, the headphone cable bends against your knees and you are constantly afraid of breaking it, which prevents you from enjoying the peaceful weeks of memorizing menu shortcuts.
Thank you!!! Agreed!
This is quite frankly one of the best drum machines out there awesome piece of equipment
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your timing is impeccable as always. we have a tr-8s around the studio that i've never looked at, but i plugged it in yesterday and found it kind of frustrating in a lot ways similar to the 6s. the tr editor software on a mac/pc helps a bit. made me appreciate my korg electribe sampler all the more (you should do a BG on that one!)
Thanks!!! I had ordered a ET Sampler but I fell victim to a scam 😥😥😥
@@AudioPilz oh man that's awful. hope you got your money back at least.
I can’t wait for you to get the new SH04 or whatever that new groove box is called. It’s screams bad gear 😂❤
Still not on Roland's early access list;)
It’s a crime that Roland haven’t sent you an SH04 but I guess you can’t review it until the bad reviews pile up 😄
@@AudioPilz It's a mystery as to why.
I hate you because you inspired me to start making TH-cam videos again. Always so damn entertaining.
Thank you so much!!! I left a sub!!!
I feel like the MC-101 is only a few episodes away now. (I love mine, and it’s strangely a sense of validation when some of your gear makes it onto BG)
Let's see if it's ticking all the boxes;)
Cheers Florian. Great timing for this to appear. :)
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Kirk was gonna deliver this to Sybok until he realized "What does god need with a drum machine?"
I thought the exact same thing😂😂😂
Roland never lets this show down lol thanks for another classic
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The AI Art morphing animation is great! Make more of these, plz! Gives a good vibe :)
Thank you!!!
This show has actually cured my g.a.s. I still struggle internally to leave a rompler on the shelf but I haven’t bought more than an lightning to headphone adapter in over a year.
The adapter was for the volca sample. Lol
Gear Addicts Anonymous 😂
*Traded for a TR-6S a few weeks ago*
Me: "Of, course."
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5 seconds of video is totally enough to hit like button.
Thank you!!!
I can’t pause fast enough to read all the memes dammit! 🤣🤣
Isn't that part of the game?;)
Just gave up
I literally can’t wait for every new video you share ! Best counter reviews on youtube ♥️
I have a question for you, you said :”some of its better competitors” which ones would they be ? I’m finding it hard to find any better value for the package Roland offers. Unless it’s way pricier
Many thanks !
Thank you so much!!!
ohhhhh come on! The TR6-S is as about as much drum machine goodness as it's possible to get for £300, I think it punches above it's weight and never fails to sound good in a mix. I bought one unsure if I'd keep it, and the wee thing has remained in my setup ever since
Sound is not the issue here;)
..... Model:Samples.
I have a Tr-8s and love that thing. I always end up using it on some tracks. it cuts through the mix and goes well with other drum machines. I had loaded some classic break samples in it, and it was insane. I don't know how much they cut out on this 6S, but from your vid, it seems like a lot. there are a lot of things I with the 8S did, but , it is still extremely capable.
It's basically the same, just smaller...
I guess we'll see MC101 soon...lol I personally enjoy the MC101 quite a lot except that making a 'song' in it is just as frustrating as using it live and it wasn't even designed to do songs, it was added way later in a function called "Scene Chain". Also the 101's pads REALLY suck. I'm constantly getting failed triggers because you have to hit the pads dead center. I'll be hammering out a bassline while recording and stop and restart cause one of the pads just decided my aim isn't perfect enough and punished me with silence.
That said, it's probably the most powerful little battery powered mini workstation you can buy (at least in dedicated hardware form...obviously you can get a handheld computer and run a full DAW if you wanted)...The TR6S would be fun as a 'how far can we push this without multitracking' machine, but I've already got a 101 for that...at least I can play chords on it. :P
That one is definitely moving up my list!
@@artisans8521 There's also Korg Gadget for Switch. Tons of 'use this other thing as music gear' options these days, but dedicated is rare and my opinion still stands. I think the only thing that might compare is Deluge.
I tell myself I'll just watch the new episode in realtime and won't pause and hunt with the frame-by-frame keyboard shortcuts to read all the memes, then I pause and hunt with the frame-by-frame keyboard shortcuts to read all the memes, yet again. And it's always worth it.
Thank you!!!
I suffred the mandela effect with this one|! I thought it had the bad gear treatment already lol
They all look so similar by now;)
lol. you described my journey. I had the TR6s for a while but I hit a ceiling soon with the limitations. I upgraded after a bit to the TR8s after a short while and love its bigger brother.
Nice!!!
Exactly the same for me
When audiopilz said its audiopilzing time and totally rolanded all over those synth nerds.. that was crazy....
Pilzception;)
5:29 "fm perc model" can set the note with ctrl knob tho.
Every synth needs a D-Beam!
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Would love to hear your thoughts on the Synthstrom Deluge some day.
Great suggestion, thanks!!!
This episode's finale genre really expanded my vocabulary.
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When I saw "Roland" I expected the to see the new SH-4D. But that would be a little too soon I guess. 🤣 Next year then.
Still didn't make it onto Roland's shortlist;)
Another enjoyable episode. Thanks for sharing.
Ah yes, caught that one. V is F and Vader is Fader!
Thanks, Lord Fader;)
cool - again a "bad" gear that i can sell now for more ;) - D-Beam or now D-Motion ... waiting for a Modal Cobalt review ... than i can sell that as well and get a the new Roland SH4d which will than be on your show in 6-12month ;) But that said well done and cool jams (evil?)
Thank you!!!
Oi, hands off Modal Cobalt, it doesn't belong here!
@@TheSciHi Sure it does 😁. Ticking all the boxes. More Shortcuts than knobs, Tiny but useful Display, Filter knob with no heft, Midi CC Assignment for less inititate ones, Sound is thin like a (insert a cool meme with Thin toilet paper) ... Come-on totally bad gear treatment worthy.
@@kaikiefer8303 Sure it doesn't. For a such feature packed synth that also has enormous mod matrix, shortcuts are necessary, unless you want something Prophet-worthy, with adequate price tag. To add insult to injury all top reviewers from Nick Batt to Benn Jordan are praising it's sound, especially in bottom end area, which is suprisingly massive for a VA synth. Yes, it's got some quirks (which many od had been adressed in 2.0 firmware upgrade) and one could (meanly) joke about Cobalt being no more than VST in a box. But capabilities- and sound design- wisely? Please.
@@TheSciHi 😁 no mercy ! It has to happen. Florian 📢
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ok let me try it differently, my 8m(V2) here in my setup - gets always puts up a fight. When his neighbors( blofeld, TR6S, JdXi) bragging about their Bad Gear Experiences. 😊
Excellent as always! Suggestion for an episode: Oberheim OB12
Thanks! Great suggestion!
Star Trek V is low key the best of the original films
That's a bold theory;)
I have a TR-8S and I seriously love the machine. I was never a fan of small volca style gear, so I kinda left it at the TB-03.
Nice one!!!
Look up dy reck wha had happened was, if you do a video in that format copying his exact vocal affectations I'll hop on the Patreon even though im homeless
That would be hilarious. DyReck is the dude!
Florian is great too!
LOVE DyReck's channel!!! Big fan here!
@@AudioPilz A K A NATIVE SHADES
One of my favorite Yt channels for sure.
I own this for a few weeks now (with the help of this video ) and was wondering why on startup it does default to Pattern 1 and not the last Pattern-Project i was working on
Thank you so much!!! Can't you switch that in the preferences?
@@AudioPilz from what I remember and understand , you can save which project should be the default one, but not make the machine remember which project was the last one and start there. Unless I misinterpreted the Roland answer when I googled this question. Need to double check when I am home again
@@AudioPilz tried it moments laterrrrr...... Yes you can.
There is a possibility for chromatic notes though, you have to set the Control knob for the respective instrument to "coarse" and then adjust each note through the motion control. Each value on coarse tune will make it go up or down one half step
Thanks for the heads up!
Jam 1 was just good ❤ and jam 3 also very nice ❤ great episode as always 🥰
Thank you!!!
I am so glad you picked c
...so you'd better get the party...;)
AudioPilz: Makes video focusing on Roland thing, with a Volca Keys once again lurking to the side delivering a sick detuned bass, making me want it more than said Roland thing.
You got the message;)
I'm proud to say that this is the only youtube channel I am subscribed to that hasn't gotten me on a fbi watch list
Lol, thanks!
Can anyone please recommend a similar, but less frustrating groove box for someone who doesn't have any grooveboxes yet?
Its bigger sibling is a lot more hands-on
Mindblowing amount of work and quality again in this video. That DnB track was a very nice surprise, and sounds like a beast growling. Very nicely done!
By the way, have you done any Native Instruments gear review?
Thank you!!! NI is probably too much for one episode;)
Awesome video, as always!
Thank you so much!!!
Sent my one back to Amazon after 6 hours
Not a keeper for me either...
Audioshroom is just the best, thanks!
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