Always cool to see other Romans who appreciate the Byzantine spirituality! Subscribed and looking forward to watching more prayer book reviews. God bless.
Thanks for the review. I have the Anthologion and have been thinking about using it (or parts of it) after Easter. You've got me really curious about that Ukrainian Greek Catholic prayer book.
I just received the Publican prayer Book today and wow! It’s the 4th edition. I will have to learn what the new words are regarding the different sections of the Horologion but it looks like it will be worth it! I’ve prayed the Roman office for years and this looks like an excellent change up! Thanks for your reviews for now I have many more Breviary options!
Well over a year ago this video planted a seed for me, and today I’ve finally ordered this book. Reason being that I’m really trying to find an all-in-one volume - something I can use with a Bible and nothing else so that when I move back to college this fall I don’t have to take a bunch of books again. Also, sometimes I feel like the pre-V2 Latin rite is a little too legalistic/complicated and the post-V2 too watered down, in terms of their spirituality (and I think that’s reflected in the Roman breviary and the LOTH). So I hope this can become an everyday companion and that more eastern spirituality fits my prayer life. I’d never have found out about this book save for your review, so a belated thank you. I’m really looking forward to the idea of having a “one stop shop” for both the hours and structured devotionals (and spiritual aids/reading too).
I used to have the 2nd Edition but now have to 4th Edition. I also have the Anthologion, but I much prefer the 4th Edition of the Publican's Prayer Book. I was raised Roman Rite. But, I prefer Byzantine Ruthenian and Melkite Rite to the current Western Rite. I also like the Anglican Ordinariate. I agree with you that the Melkite Prayer Book is extremely easy to use. Its my favorite Roman Catholic prayer book by far. Thanks for the excellent review.
So glad to see your channel growing, I’ve been loving it since the first video. I like the eastern spin on this book, as an RC with a high interest in the eastern catholic communities. Another great review and another book to consider for me!
Thank you for this thorough review! I see you have western prayer books and breviaries as well and am curious. Do you pray from both together each day? Or alternate days/ weeks?
Common misconception is that the Byzantine Church is on a different calendar. Easter, Christmas and Pentecost and all Sundays are lined up with the Roman Church. This is true for the Ruthenians at the very least. The Orthodox (depending on the jurisdiction) is also pretty much lined up. It is rarely ever a week off.
@@ConvincedCatholicism The Orthodox are sometimes off because they use the Julian calendar to calculate the date of Easter. Some, such as the Russians, even use the Julian calendar for fixed feasts like Christmas, so those are currently 13 days later. Some UGCC parishes also follow the Julian calendar. Even not considering the Julian calendar issue, there are major differences, such as the Byzantine liturgical calendar counting weeks after Pentecost for most of the year, as opposed to having Ordinary Time. Also the different fasting seasons.
Hi Convinced Catholicism! I recently stumbled upon your channel and really like your book reviews. I was wondering if you had any recommendations for me regarding all-encompassing prayer books. I’m looking for a book that has all the prayers included, not just the popular ones. Do you have any recommendations?
@@ConvincedCatholicism Roman Rite. And I guess what I mean is out of all the Catholic prayer books you reviewed so far is there one or two that you’d recommend as being the best for someone to use for all purposes?
Ok! For the Pre Vatican II stuff I would either go with Blessed Be God or the Fr. Lasance Missal (I have not reviewed that yet) For the Novus Ordo, I am sorry to say there is not an all encompassing prayer book with prayers for personal use and the Mass. I would say get a single volume Christian Prayer and then a Sunday Missal. That way, you will have a good combo
We are bleddes to have your YT channel. Could you also in your videos, also tell us where the Prayer Books or Bibles or other books of interest to us Catholics are available, or where we can order it from. Because, I have checked our local Catholic bookstore, and unfortunately a lot of the books you review are not available
Completely! The Byzantine Catholic Church is in full communion with Rome. Their worship is ad orientem, is chanted, communion is by spoon, or ate churches. The only thing is the structure of prayers is different from what you might expect
I would have to actually get the book and examine it, but from this video it looks like an Orthodox prayer book which has been a victim of Vat II. This Vat II mentality is so pervasive that it has affected the eastern-rite churches too. The thrust is to be practical and leave out this and add that. This is not the spirit of Orthodoxy. We are not concerned with such things. We do not expect lay people to say all the prayers of the day. Even on Mount Athos (I have been there twice) all the monks do not attend all the prayers. Some might only be able to go to Liturgy and Compline because sometimes there are hundreds of pilgrims and they are all given meals and a place to sleep (even if it is just a cot in the hallway on a great feast day). Cows must be milked and garden attended. Bread must be baked and candles made. This means that monks cannot pray all the hours. Lay people are not expected to do such and if they have not received a blessing from their confessor to do such things, they should not even attempt it. They should just say the prayers as in the prayer book in the morning and in the evening. As a penance, I have been told to read a section of the Gospels at night, however this is a podvig that I was given and it is not for anyone else. Other people have other podvigii. That is how it works in the Orthodox Church.
Sorry Mr. Convinced, but I disagree. They might have framed their argumentation as such, but the fact that they would even comment just shows who is really in charge and who is the junior partner. Besides, most of the Latinizations remained if you consider Saturday evening mass instead of vespers or vigil. It is not a traditional Latinization such as the rosary, but actually a new Latinization or innnovation as if going to church on Saturday evening is the same as going to church on Sunday. Do you see what I mean? Same stuff, just a different shade.@@ConvincedCatholicism
Always cool to see other Romans who appreciate the Byzantine spirituality! Subscribed and looking forward to watching more prayer book reviews. God bless.
Thanks for your support! I am excited to share much more!
Thanks for the review. I have the Anthologion and have been thinking about using it (or parts of it) after Easter. You've got me really curious about that Ukrainian Greek Catholic prayer book.
All three books will eventually be reviewed
I just received the Publican prayer Book today and wow! It’s the 4th edition. I will have to learn what the new words are regarding the different sections of the Horologion but it looks like it will be worth it! I’ve prayed the Roman office for years and this looks like an excellent change up! Thanks for your reviews for now I have many more Breviary options!
Well over a year ago this video planted a seed for me, and today I’ve finally ordered this book. Reason being that I’m really trying to find an all-in-one volume - something I can use with a Bible and nothing else so that when I move back to college this fall I don’t have to take a bunch of books again. Also, sometimes I feel like the pre-V2 Latin rite is a little too legalistic/complicated and the post-V2 too watered down, in terms of their spirituality (and I think that’s reflected in the Roman breviary and the LOTH). So I hope this can become an everyday companion and that more eastern spirituality fits my prayer life. I’d never have found out about this book save for your review, so a belated thank you. I’m really looking forward to the idea of having a “one stop shop” for both the hours and structured devotionals (and spiritual aids/reading too).
This book was my wife and I’s go to for years! I absolutely love it. Good luck my friend!
I used to have the 2nd Edition but now have to 4th Edition. I also have the Anthologion, but I much prefer the 4th Edition of the Publican's Prayer Book.
I was raised Roman Rite. But, I prefer Byzantine Ruthenian and Melkite Rite to the current Western Rite. I also like the Anglican Ordinariate.
I agree with you that the Melkite Prayer Book is extremely easy to use. Its my favorite Roman Catholic prayer book by far.
Thanks for the excellent review.
Anytime I pick up the Anthologian I cannot help but compare it to the Publican Prayer book
Where did you find it
So glad to see your channel growing, I’ve been loving it since the first video. I like the eastern spin on this book, as an RC with a high interest in the eastern catholic communities. Another great review and another book to consider for me!
Thanks so much for your support. We as Catholics belong to an amazingly diverse tradition
Having this book is my first venture into eastern rite spirituality! I’m so looking forward to it!
It is a beautiful journey! You will realize that it is so different!
@@ConvincedCatholicism Yes I prayed Vespers and just finished Compline and wow am I impressed!!!
Thank you!!!
This came out right on time! I was actually looking at buying this one!
I am really glad! The 4th edition should be even better
Where can I buy it? Thanks
@@eleos_7 There is a link in the description
Thank you for this thorough review! I see you have western prayer books and breviaries as well and am curious. Do you pray from both together each day? Or alternate days/ weeks?
I used to pray from the Publican’s prayer book everyday. Now I usually pray from the Collins Divine Office. I would never pray both in one day
I am so happy to have found your channel. Can you recommend anymore bibles? My vision is not so great. A study bible would be ideal.
Welcome to the channel! I myself have not used it but I hear the Great Adventure Bible is wonderful for both those purposes
The douay rheims is the first bible ever made and good for reference if you use other bibles.
Thank you for this!
Thank you for your support!
Oh! I just found the glossary of terms in the back of the book!! Whew that will help 😅
Yes. Very convenient
Is it easy to use Eastern books as a Western Christian despite the calender differences?
Common misconception is that the Byzantine Church is on a different calendar. Easter, Christmas and Pentecost and all Sundays are lined up with the Roman Church. This is true for the Ruthenians at the very least. The Orthodox (depending on the jurisdiction) is also pretty much lined up. It is rarely ever a week off.
@@ConvincedCatholicism The Orthodox are sometimes off because they use the Julian calendar to calculate the date of Easter. Some, such as the Russians, even use the Julian calendar for fixed feasts like Christmas, so those are currently 13 days later. Some UGCC parishes also follow the Julian calendar.
Even not considering the Julian calendar issue, there are major differences, such as the Byzantine liturgical calendar counting weeks after Pentecost for most of the year, as opposed to having Ordinary Time. Also the different fasting seasons.
So what is your current favorite prayer book?
@@mts0628 Probably Monastic Diurnal or Collins Divine Office
Hi Convinced Catholicism! I recently stumbled upon your channel and really like your book reviews. I was wondering if you had any recommendations for me regarding all-encompassing prayer books. I’m looking for a book that has all the prayers included, not just the popular ones. Do you have any recommendations?
It depends on what you mean by “all of them” also, Roman Rite or Byzantine Rite?
@@ConvincedCatholicism Roman Rite. And I guess what I mean is out of all the Catholic prayer books you reviewed so far is there one or two that you’d recommend as being the best for someone to use for all purposes?
Ok! For the Pre Vatican II stuff I would either go with Blessed Be God or the Fr. Lasance Missal (I have not reviewed that yet)
For the Novus Ordo, I am sorry to say there is not an all encompassing prayer book with prayers for personal use and the Mass. I would say get a single volume Christian Prayer and then a Sunday Missal. That way, you will have a good combo
Your bookshelf that you briefly showed is almost identical to mine! Will you do a review of the Ukrainian horologion?
Eventually yes
When are you going to review the Anglican Office Book? You said you were going to do it quite some time ago.
It is the next video! It will be out on the 27th
@@ConvincedCatholicism great! Merry Christmas!
We are bleddes to have your YT channel. Could you also in your videos, also tell us where the Prayer Books or Bibles or other books of interest to us Catholics are available, or where we can order it from. Because, I have checked our local Catholic bookstore, and unfortunately a lot of the books you review are not available
There is a link to the book in the description of every video
do you have any prayer book recommendations on Maronite?
I will have to do some research. I have a couple of Maronite friends I might ask
@@ConvincedCatholicism Thank you, i hope you can get back to me because i am really interested!
I think this might be it! Is this a Catholic book or an Orthodox book?
Catholic
Is this appropriate for a traditional Roman Catholic?
Completely! The Byzantine Catholic Church is in full communion with Rome. Their worship is ad orientem, is chanted, communion is by spoon, or ate churches. The only thing is the structure of prayers is different from what you might expect
I hear the translation in the anthologion is frustrating. And that it doesn't even have a full psalter??
It doesn’t have a full psalter. Most Byzantine books do not
I noticed that. I got myself the Agpeya as a very cheap workaround for a psalter. Was probably around $2 online.
Thinking about this, or the Chesoslav
It is unfortunate that such a beautiful book uses mordern english instead of the "thee, thou etc"
It is a personal preference. I respect prayer books that are printed in both styles
No Divine Liturgy?
No, I think the book would be way too big
I would have to actually get the book and examine it, but from this video it looks like an Orthodox prayer book which has been a victim of Vat II. This Vat II mentality is so pervasive that it has affected the eastern-rite churches too. The thrust is to be practical and leave out this and add that. This is not the spirit of Orthodoxy. We are not concerned with such things. We do not expect lay people to say all the prayers of the day. Even on Mount Athos (I have been there twice) all the monks do not attend all the prayers. Some might only be able to go to Liturgy and Compline because sometimes there are hundreds of pilgrims and they are all given meals and a place to sleep (even if it is just a cot in the hallway on a great feast day). Cows must be milked and garden attended. Bread must be baked and candles made. This means that monks cannot pray all the hours. Lay people are not expected to do such and if they have not received a blessing from their confessor to do such things, they should not even attempt it. They should just say the prayers as in the prayer book in the morning and in the evening. As a penance, I have been told to read a section of the Gospels at night, however this is a podvig that I was given and it is not for anyone else. Other people have other podvigii. That is how it works in the Orthodox Church.
Vatican II actually removed many Latinizations
Sorry Mr. Convinced, but I disagree. They might have framed their argumentation as such, but the fact that they would even comment just shows who is really in charge and who is the junior partner. Besides, most of the Latinizations remained if you consider Saturday evening mass instead of vespers or vigil. It is not a traditional Latinization such as the rosary, but actually a new Latinization or innnovation as if going to church on Saturday evening is the same as going to church on Sunday. Do you see what I mean? Same stuff, just a different shade.@@ConvincedCatholicism