History Of Electronic Drums Episode 6 (2010-2021)
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- The story of how electronic drums evolved in the 2010s.
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My Sources For This Series:
The Books: Electronic Drumfax: Vintage Electronic Drum Kits (1970-1990) and The Complete Simmons Drum Guide: The Rise And Fall Of Simmons Electronic Drums by Alex Graham. Those are the very best books on electronic drum history that you can buy. Go buy both of them, you won’t be disappointed. Another helpful book was Electronic Drums. By Frank Vilardi and Steve Tarshis. It was written around 1985 or so and features lots of mini-reviews of early electronic drums from the early 80s (it even comes with a Flexi-Disc record). The Complete Simmons Drum Book by Bob Henrit is also a great read. I was lucky to buy it for $60. The book is out of print and going for up to $160 online. Also the book All About Electronic Percussion by Mike Snyder.
The Magazines: Modern Drummer, Sound On Sound, Electronic & Music Maker Magazine, International Recording Musician & Recording World, One Two Testing, Music Technology, and Digital Drummer were all very useful. I had a date by date timeline from the book collection, but these magazine reviews gave me context on what the drums were like to play, how the drum companies were doing, and whether or not the different drum sets were any good! A big thank you to www.muzines.co.uk for archiving many of the older, out of print magazines I mentioned. Instead of having to spend thousands of dollars to buy those magazines, I was able to read the digitized versions on that website. The most comprehensive magazine for electronic drum information was Modern Drummer. People lovingly covered anything from 1960 to 1989, and the internet really helps with anything from 2000 onward. But there’s a large information gap when it comes to 90s era electronic drums. So I went through about 35,000 pages of Modern Drummer Magazine to fill in different information gaps I had and to find advertisement photos. Digital Drummer Magazine has been a great resource. It began in 2010 and has been very detailed in its coverage of edrums.
Websites: HellFireDrums.com was very helpful in its coverage of edrum news as it happened from 2007 to 2014, reading through all the posts helped not forget certain kits, and nail down the dates. The Vdrums.com forum has helped me countless times over the years, including during the making of this video. Seeing chatter about upcoming edrum kits from about 2000 until today helped me nail down difficult to find information. Believe it or not, Facebook has helped out tremendously. The “about'' section of each company page usually contains a brief history of the company and a founding date. Plus going through posts from different companies lets me see when a new cymbal for drum set was introduced. I of course visited dozens of company websites to get official information of different releases, but many delete old press releases and no longer list their drum lines beyond a generation or two. I can’t forget the Wayback Machine from Internetarchive.com. This amazing tool lets you see websites from whatever year you want, it helped my research in this video.
People: I contacted various people work in electronic drum companies. Including Kat Inc, 2Box, Diamond Drums, Roland, and Bertesi.
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This was such an amazing series! Thank you for all of the grueling extensive research, and easy to listen to commentary. I think anyone that is interested in how E drums have developed over time needs to see this! This series was so well put together, and fun!
Phenomenal job on the whole series. There's a great history to electronic drums and still much more to tell in the coming years. The future is unwritten and there's many more chapters ahead.
An hour and 12 minutes???? Oh yeah!
For the people crazy enough to watch the whole thing :D
RIP JMan ... as you said , more than everything , he was a great person ...
Just ordered the Roland TD-17KVX and CAN'T WAIT for it to get here. I own the td-09 and love it so... I'm guessing I'll be more than happy with my purchase 🙂
I have now finished watching the six videos. I have no words to describe this series of videos that you have made. Perfect, probably the most complete yet. Continue with your excellent work. We drummers thank you!
Dude... you are killing me... I had plans today! now I have to watch this video!
sorry haha! :D
This Time in E-Drums was the most important, not just because it's the current times, but because of the technology. I will need to listen to this video many times over, and memorize this information. Thanks to the owner of this channel.
HI had a Millenium MPS 400 ekit. It came with rubber heads, I soon converted them to mesh heads. Then later on added a Real Drum snare pad, Roland hi hat cymbal, an foot pedal then finally changed the module to a Roland TD8.
Worked for me an sounds great!
This whole series of videos was absolutely fantastic, Justin! Bravo!
Still got a TD20K. Still up to date, still a killer kit. Hi-Hat, 3 "crashes" one ride and additional pads.
4 toms, Snare, B-Drum. I'll never go back to acoustics after this experience. Got 50 kits on the same Drum! Can play at three in the morning. What else? 😂
And i love the face the sound engineer does when you give him a left and right jacks and you say: Don't worry, just manage the volume...😅
Priceless! No more sound check for the Drums!
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Welll, this whole series kind of makes you the authority on edrum history now :)
I think you should make one more episode about the future of edrumming as you see it after all that research you made... I`de like to see that :)
Also eDrum midi is from Brazil, and I must say, it's a pretty solid company. I really like their product. Very affordable and works perfectly
Thomann also has its own acoustic cymbals brand named Zultan. These are high quality cymbals made of b20 alloy produced exclusively for Thomann by a company called Turkish. Very affordable cymbals that in terms of quality don't lag behind the hi-end series of Zildjian, Sabian, Paiste, Meinl.
P.S. Great video, I hope you will be more active on TH-cam
Great work Justin. Thanks for the time and effort you put into this. Also, RIP to j-man and Ikutaro Kakehashi - both of you will be missed 🙏
Hey justin. Want to say thank you for posting Roland drum videos. My wife knew i love roland andchecked out your videos and bought me a kvx 17 for Christmas. I had an old pd7 back in 95 , but traded in for a 1981 export floating Tom acoustic kit. Everyone told me the crowd does not like electronic drums. Now I have a hybrid kit..thank you
Yo Justin I just have to say man this series was fantastic and I genuinely loved watching it. Watched all 6 in a row and probably going to re watch in the near future. Thanks for all you do for the drum community!
Thanks Josh!
Sensational series. Although a bit self indulgent maybe should of been a section noting when the channel 65 drums started and how valuable this channel has been to the edrum community!
I rarely comment on videos but this warrants one. You did a great job. This is well researched, concise and very informative. Thank you for your hard work and dedication to the percussion community.
I have so many 12 and 10-inch Alesis pads, most are MKII pro pads, but the 2010 real heads when turned to mesh..are the best triggers ever made,the fact there are so many out there still is amazing..
Hey, its Nathan from the facebook post, it looks like my tip made it into the video about the Millenium sets! Glad I could help :)
I've watched every episode so far, thank you so much brotha!
Woah, bumper episode! Amazing job dude, so much in here I didn't have a clue about. Well done!
Thanks dude!
Watched the whole video with excitement to hear about the Alesis Surge kit and just got a brief mention 😂
Still loved the video, very informative and well produced. Great work!
These series was amazing, Justin!!! Congrats! Great info, great feedback,etc. BTW, have you ever played the Millenium 850 you talked about? Just wondering if you have any thought on that one in particular?
Very precious information, thanks 😊
What a fantastic series. Excellent job.
Thanks Mark!
Hello, great job - thank you!
I own a Millenium MPS 750. My answer to how Millenium are cutting the prices is that they do it by cutting durability. They use one ply mesh heads that are kinda durable, but the materials for the triggers are getting easily broken. I’ve already repaired the triggers for all my Tom pads and my snare pad, and switched to a Drum-Tec two ply mesh head.
Also, another way to cut the price is the weak drum rack. I constantly need to fix the position of my snare after playing a song, because the bolts are messed up and I can’t find the exact size for the place on the rack. Also, it moves too much. I’ve had to fix the rack one or two times every month. Now I use strings that hold the parts of the rack together too, so they stop moving, because they were moving even tho I am using a carpet.
The cymbal stands also have problems. The mounted hi hat is constantly moving and the female port of the pad is almost not working. I’d have to fix that soon too.
I will fix the stands, change the toms’ heads to the Drum-Tec design series one ply, fix the hi hat pad, find bolts for the snare and sell the drums for half of the original price. I’m soon getting a new electronic drumset.
Thank you so much for a great series. Loved it.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Wow, six months in the making... yeah, I just finished gliding through this entire series and thought you deserve at least one more comment and like. ;)
don't worry, I didn't touch your video with 666 likes hehe.
Cheers and thanks for this comprehensive overview.
Thank you for this!! You made shopping for a new kit exciting!!
Dude I think you did an awesome job on this series , I love to watch the history of certain things and this was one that I'm glad I watched. Cool series of videos , thank you for the hard work.
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I don't play drums. I play guitar badly :D I've been thinking for a while about learning as I've always loved the instrument. Reality got me thinking practice pads until I realised I could get a cheap electronic kit for similar money. I've been watching your videos and checking the ads. I would like to suggest you do something similar to this but covering say the evolution of a brands offerings in a price range, or maybe some vids of models that have common problems. I know you've done some of this. You've done beginner buyers guides etc, but it's tricky to pin down kits to avoid in the lower price brackets. I am in Australia so a lot of stuff isn't available and our prices are different here. Thank you very much for the clear and informative videos.
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I still you two Pearl E-Pro live kits in our music school. Both sets are working fine. Although I've replaced the e-symbals with silent ones.
Watched all 6 in one go.
dang
I got a millennium 850 and I got to say for the price it’s a great kit especially seeing as you get a extra Tom and crash cymbal
Thank you, enjoyed the entire series! Great job
Amazing video! It took me 3 days to watch it. Woderfull work and research. ❤
Wow never thought I'd watch the full video, but it's so well made and interesting that I just couldn't stop watching!!
this was my favorite period from your series! Man this was a total passion project i can tell and it was fantastic. Im surprised that you didnt get into the cymbals and drums that are being made by Field other than a few mentions i saw. IMO they are making some of the best stuff out there in the full sized segment. I fully realize that you cannot possibly cover EVERYTHING!!! Man this was insane
Incredible documentary you are an amazing person
This series was a great watch, certainly learnt a lot. Seems like now is the best time to get into edrums as there is so much choice. I was really on the fence about A2E for a while but looking at the choices in 2019, I made up my mind in a space of a few days and bought a 7Pc Tama Superstar Classic as it was incredibly cheap, looked awesome and was the best candidate for a A2E during the planing stage. Completed in early 2020 due to global issues but this is my dream ekit with pretty much zero compromises. I run a TD50/TD27 with the Upgrade pack, ATV cymbals, RDrums triggers, Drum-Tec Real Feel's and Tama HW. I also have a Mimic Pro but I love the SD3 SDX's too much to not to that. Your videos have definitely been a lot of help with this project. Now I just need to get my hands on the Roland 14"/16" thin cymbals...they are just unobtainable!
I have watched all these episodes quite a few times, so enjoyable!!!
Wow, what a huge piece of work, man!!! I watched it all with like 5 long breaks. Very interresting!!!
Thanks again for another informative video, Justin. This time it’s the era where I actually got my first e kit! 👍🏼🙂
Amazing contribution to the drum community. You are a legend!
I watched the entire series...so much information...you worked your ass off..THANK YOU!!
I was getting worried about you, Justin! Glad you're still with us!
geez this was an amazing video. Thank you to 65 drums for all this
Maaaan you had a very productive pandemic time! Thank you so much for your work!
You are awesome bro. Excellent job!
Watch on your tv for comfort! Great work!!
Loved the series! Awesome work Justin! I had the DM10 Studio kit that I played for 5 years and now I use the DM10 module on my A2E kit...until next year!!
Well researched, edited and produced video. Well done sir.
Good Work, very usefull to know more about EDrums.
Outstanding series. Glad I watched every part. Thank you for producing this doc!!!
Cracking doc hugely professional. I remember buying and using those huggers in the early 90’s!
57:35 That drum part reminds me of P.O.D. - Youth of the Nation
Justin, congratulations and thanks for this epic series, much appreciated.
Nice job on the history I really enjoyed the series, I never knew there was so much.
What an amazing flow of information! It's been great to follow the series. Thanks!
Came here to catch up with all the choices one has, if were to buy a new e-drum kit. Got just that! So good job man. :)
This was excellent !!!
I've been trying to find a good window to watch this for a very long time, so I could get through the entire thing in one sitting.
Wow !!!!!
What an amazing history...
And a bit confusing history too.
Confusing in the sense that there was some really great electronic drum sets and technology decades ago, yet newer edrums have a lot of problems and machine gunning or things that don't trigger right, or bad sounds.
It's pretty interesting how some companies like Roland have held back a lot of ingenuity because they came up with mesh heads first and it put a lot of people out of business or stopped ideas from happening.
I have the Td27 with the digital snare, and I think that's really amazing, but I guess of course the company that has the best gear on the market is the one who held everyone back.
I don't know if I can down grade though, and I don't think anything is even close to it that works that well.
Hopefully other companies give some competition now that they can't get sued.
Good thing for copyright limits...lol
Anyways....
Thanks for making such a great video !!!!!!
Well worth the time !!!!!
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Just wanted to say thanks for this series. Was a great watch.
thanks dude!
Great series Justin I enjoyed the whole series and it brought back some great memories. I found the series informative, interesting, and entertaining. Well done.
Thanks so much!
This is the BEST presentation I’ve ever seen regarding electronic percussion, You have certainly done your research.. You even mentioned Boss from the early 80’s...!!
I wonder if The Alesia Strike Pro’s problems were due to Chinese production??? I recently purchased a TD-50.. Personally I prefer the last model of The TD-20 but either way The 50 is still an excellent module..
Thank you good sir for your video presentations....
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Great work. Super informative
Wow. I'm not even into electronic drums that much, but that was great! Thank you!
Very done mate! Very comprehensive and thoroughly enjoyable. Great job.
Haven’t seen them all, yet, but what a job!! Very good effort!!
i feel like adding a simple text at a bottom corner of which kit youre talking about would help a lot for new e-drummers like me, other than that, amazing stuff. thanks :D
Well I made this video years ago, so I can't really add text to it, TH-cam took away "annotations" as a feature. But maybe if I ever remake it down the line that would be a nice addition :)
a great series...enjoyed it....there was a lot of information to get through, and sometimes it was hard to keep up with the narrative, but well done...🤠🍁👍
Nicely done man! Can’t believe I’ve been following your channel for 5 years now. You have helped inform manny of my edrum purchases at this point. Two kits, (Td-50k & 17kvx) and i don’t even know how many pads and accessories. Thanks for your contributions to the community. Your videos are always interesting, informative and well done.
Justin- Great series thanks for all the work you put into this!!
I purchased some product from Royalty Hybrid Drums and I must say, Im pretty happy with their product. I'm glad company from down here can serve us with quality product at an incredible lower price compared to Roland.
AMAZING PRESENTATION ! HOPE YOU WIN A GRAMMY OR SOMETHIN !!!
Glad to see you back at it! These videos are awesome! Keep it up! 👍 🤘🤘
this could be perfectly a documentary, excelent work!!
Well researched & presented. This is an important & valuable work. Well done.✊
I've been waiting so long for this! 🥁
awesome man - great job - ya i sat through all 4 hours!
29:23 that drum module is the same as on my Medeli made kit, the first e-kit I owned.
Well done sir! Enjoyed each installment. Very thoroughly researched.
Great vid as usual Justin!
This was so freaking awesome!!! Great work... 👍
Excellent video, as always. Keep up the good work!
Great work!
Hope you make it to 66 Drums one day, that's my favorite.
Thank you so much for all that you do!
Thanks for the video
Awesome walk down this historic path. Many thanks. I started with an SDSV kit, SDS7 then back to acoustic. I now play a TD-50KV with more add-on cymbals and love adding my own samples and the programming abilities. Cheers, JB ☮️🥁
Ah yes, the ZMC-1, the most legendary mic lost to time forever. Never found any sound demos of this
Can you make a full review of the td27 modul whit all Features?
PS: I love your vids thanks for make so nive stuff online!❤️
Great work! Thanks!!
Great video!
Great series very informative. Btw Kai Hahto @ 43:04 :)
Thank you!!!
Awesome series!
Thank you!