Great review Justin- you are the best!-- quick and concise, no fluff, no BS, full of great information, and you have really done your homework. Thanks for not wasting our time!
There should be fabric sleeves that stretch over the rubber cymbal.. metallic materials, different colours.. yes they’d wear out but make them affordable & easy to replace. You could have logos.. your name, band name, 65 Drums.. anything you want
I'll just leave this here since the topic hasn't really been covered on most of the channels I've seen. The Yamaha cymbals are not completely proprietary to their modules as mentioned elsewhere in the comments. You can plug them into something like an eDRUMin which will detect the cymbal type and adjust accordingly to it. Yamaha cymbals achieve 3 zone triggering with a single cable because of how they are wired. The Roland cymbals separate the zones using a second cable, Yamaha uses a resistor on the same 1/4" TRS to eliminate the need for a second cable which is why you can't use them on other modules. The other third party cymbals are also wired to support Roland. So, with that said, if you are using one of those boxes with a VST you will get 3 zone cymbal triggering with a cheaper cymbal than what any of the favorite companies listed will provide. You just have to have the time and patience to configure the box to sweeten the zones for your playing style but honestly if you want the best sound and playability out of your edrums you have to fine tune them. Hope this information helps, as there are companies out there doing some pretty awesome stuff that aren't getting much exposure. It might be because the boxes I'm using only have four ports, but toss three of them together with a VST and you have a more capable system than a TD50 for around $800 if you throw in the cost of Superior Drummer 3. I'm using Yamaha cymbals and my triggers are wired for Roland. They all work in the boxes I'm using. You can save money with diligence and discipline in your technology and get better sounding gear than an 8k ATV or Roland kit.
I have Yamaha cymbals, absolutely love them. 13” hats much nicer system 1 cymbal 2 TRS cables and regular hihat stand , no sensor To plug in. 15” ride was 100$ used bought my whole Yamaha dtx560 kit for 500$ 13” hats w/stand 13 crash ,13” crash/ride. Bought dtx pro module last week for it . Gets here Monday
Hey buddy! Thanks for your vids! These are the kind I like and need! I’m 100% with u. And I think it’s a good thing to mention to everyone that it’s simplest to start at the cheapest and work your way up like I did. Find ur own comfort level. Reselling is super easy in this field. And and.....U spelt everything right this time 🤣. Thanks dude
Please a video on how long top line ecymbals last, and how hard you are able to hit them safely, also id love a real basic demonstration on how to diagnose and fix an ecymbal so ideally we can play through them without the worry of anything more than a 20 min solder iron job, i love the content dude.
DUDE GREAT JOB ON INFO I GIVE YOU A 10 PLUS ON VIDEO TOTALLY REAL SALESMEN PROFESSIONAL I DIG THOSE CYMBALS LOVE HOW EVERY ONE IS CONVERTING THE BOTH DRUMS TOGETHER!! IT ROKS AND LOOKS COOL
your content is crazy good because there is not another voice like yours. one of these companies is going to scoop you up and then you won't be independent and that will be a loss for us. But good for you if that happens you will have earned it. thank you for sharing so much knowledge.
I noticed on your drum set that sometimes I see regular rims and at other times the rims are black and look like they have rubber edges. Please let me know what the black rims are. I haven't played drums in over 50 years but electronic drums have sure peaked new interest. Thanks for all the work you put into your channel.
Justin, I got a Vh 13 from japan for 500 brand new included tax, so you should be say that, because in US Retail is 700 but if you get from Japan is 460 dollars and you get in 3 days. Yes 3 days... is freak
Hey Justin, I have a full kit coming in from Jobeky with cymbals. I don't know how long it will take to get here because I'm in Oregon and they are based in the UK. I watch your channel and it's helped me and so many others that maybe I could do my part and lend you the cymbals if you would like to do a full review on them? All I ask is you pay shipping when you send them back to me =D When they get here I'll have: 2x 16 inch crash 1x 10 inch splash 1x 18 ride Hi hats Dark Bronze line. If your interest that is.
Awesome vid! Been thinking of upgrading my hi hats for my Strike. Noise isn’t that big of a deal for me so I’m going to check out the Field and Jobecky ones.
1) are you aware of any triggers only available for acoustic hihats/cymbals ? I know there are brands that sell metallic hihats for 400+. Full 5 piece cymbal set could cost 1000+ 2) Thomannmusic has a hihat set with stand for less than 150 shipped to us. Comes with their top end millennium 1000 model
It would be cool to have a electronic symbol manufactured to look like a acoustic metal symbol,...some sort of new technology, with a thin metallic coating or veneer....I believe who ever can come up with this and incorporate a wide variety like those for acoustic drums is gonna make a fortune.
Loved the video. I'm glad to see you listed the best $2500 set as the Strike Pro SE. I'm very drawn to this set and want to get it based on all the features, pads, and that you can tune them and make them feel closer to acoustic drums. I'm wondering if you keep in mind the ATV EXS-5 when making that ranking. Although the alesis set excites me more, i have some skepticism built up after looking at so many things online the past couple weeks. Thanks!
I just purchased the Strike Pro SE(upgraded from the Command Mesh which was great for the price point). I'm excited I found this channel cuz I totally forgot that most trigger pads can be swapped(like I could get a roland hi hat and it'll work etc...)
I have the Triggera 14’ China and its a single zone no choke but its triggering spans the bow and surprisingly enough the movement behaves physically correct and also the way you hit it can give that hit loss chinas have.
Thanks for your know how and expertise man. It’s been helpful. I decided to go for the roland td07kv and got a cy13r as an extra. They Should arrive this week. Let’s see how it goes. Saludos de Mexico! 👊🏽💥
QUESTION: Of the hit-hats featured here, which ones will work with an Alesis Strike Kit? (that is better than the included hats...) - I really don't like the Strike's hat's even after all the recommended updates and adjustments, it's just not sensitive enough with foot usage + combined strikes.
As far as i know, everything. I know for sure that the atv one will work, i cant tell that the roland ones will 100% work (because i havnt seen it with my own eyes), but i think it will work just fine.
I might try experimenting with a cheap metal cymbal, get a piezo and a tub of transparent/clear plastidip to see if it works in volume reduction. Might wear quickly though, but it could be a fun DIY trial.
I have the Roland CY-13R that came with my TD-17KVX as a ride and you really have to lay into the bell to get it to trigger. From a cursory google search, this seems to be a common problem. Do the other Roland / non-Roland cymbals act the same way?
Justin, I noticed you didn’t mention Alesis cymbals in your cymbal analysis. Was wondering your thoughts on the cymbals with their new strike pro SE kit? Your separate video on this kit vs Roland, you were quite impressed with it. So just wondering as seriously considering the Alesis kit.
Hey Justin, I’m trying to convert an acoustic drum set into an electric kit. I already have drum triggers and this video helped me find the cymbals that I want. I am curious as to what drum module I should purchase. I want a TD-30 but I’m not sure if everything will be compatible. Could you help me out?
The 2Box modules are worth looking at if you want more control and ability to build your own sounds from scratch (but I own one, so I am slightly biased... 😏 ).
Hi Justin, have you checked the Roland VH-12 vs. the VH-13? Is there any difference, except the build a different controller? Have both the same resolution? Thanks for your great informative channel!
Thanks for this. I know there are a lot of cymbals and hi hats here, but I lose track of them all through the life of the video. Would be nice to have a product list name so I can further research this topic.
I've had a Yamaha PCY-155 3 zone ride for the past 5 years that's performed flawlessly, but it looks like it's time to check out ATV. Thanks for the tip.
I love the yamaha stuff too. Good, solid gear and cheaper than roland for the same build quality. Not sure why yamaha aren't mentioned in this video. I prefer the yamaha modules to roland too. Cheaper and much more realistic sounds to my ears.
I think that it's strange that no Yamaha cymbal made it into any of Justin's top 5's. It must be Justin's preference because it's not like the Yamaha cymbals are inferior. (they are also better priced than ATV and Roland)
Wowowww... Hello from India brother!!! ... Great explanation and content there. Keep coming with videos such as these. This questions isn't relevant to cymbols but on SD3 and very sorry for being wet behind the ears on the topic of VST Drumming. I am contemplating to buy the SD3. But my edrums are pretty basic (Carlsbro SC D600, I wonder whether u heard of this? It is around $750). So, would I be able to seamlessly use/exploit superior drummer no matter the make or model of my electronic kit? Meaning, be it a top of the line Roland/Alesis or the $750 model which I'm possessing, would the sounds generated be the same quality from SD3 with both these kits when interfaced or setup properly with the SD3 VST? ( here that, I'm ruling out the quality difference of the pads or heads themselves, or perhaps a Roland kit might have presets within SD3 to aid set up sensitivity etc and possibly the discomfort of smaller pads on the $750 kit compared to top of a line Roland). But you may tell a kit makes a player good to an extent. But still not bringing these to light the crux of my question is: Would I be able to bring out the similar sounding drum grooves or licks or an audio from the SD3 VST, no matter the kit being put behind the VST to trigger'em?
Not sure if anyone could help me out here, but has the Roland CY16-RT officially come out yet? And if it did, where can I purchase it? I can’t find it anywhere, and if I do, it’s from a shady foreign website that lists it for about $500 USD. So I was surprised when Justin said it was $350, which is MUCH more suitable for my budget. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
Another really great video Justin. Cheers man. I was >this< close to buying the VH13's which I saw on marketplace for a ridiculously good price but then looked up comparability with my trusty TD9 and no dice! I don't hate my VH11's though. But I'm desperate for a larger ride and it's hard to go past Roland's 18 so I'm feeling a module upgrade might finally be in the cards soon...
FYI for anyone considering metal cymbals: Just dont. Ive had both a full set of Jobeky and Field cymbals and I cant recommend either brands. The chap roland cymbals that came with my old Edrum kit held up better than any of these did. Ive had to have Jobeky replace 2 cymbals and Field fix another which then broke again. What you get in looks, you sacrifice in sensitivity, durability and loudness. Looks like Ill probably have to replace them all with a rubber set as they all stop working eventually.
I was planning to buy Jobeky brillance cymbals :') Are they really not reliable ? It seems to be more solid than LV series.. What serie did you owned ? Thanks !
Maybe the DTX8 and DTX8 series didn't back then (I don't really know), this video has a few years. This doesn't mean that a Yamaha cymbal will be in his top now anyways 😆 I would love an updated version of this ranking!
I think that it's strange that no Yamaha cymbal made made it into Justin's top 5 list. It must be Justin's preference because it's not like the Yamaha cymbals are inferior. (they are also better priced than ATV and Roland)
I know this was 4 years ago. And I am one of the mid 50's guys that the kids have left for college and I am getting the band back together. I am converting a Tama Starclassic Maple into an electronic kit, I have purchased the Drum-tec pro triggers and their mesh heads and will more than likely be buying the TD-50 to run everything. What are the best cymbals now? Roland? E-tone? Efnote, Zildjian? Help please
Hi. I think your videos are very interesting. I'll give you a suggestion, with all due respect, of course. If you put translation into Portuguese, you would have a few thousand more followers on your channel. Let's see: Brazil alone has 210 million people And Brazilians watch more videos with their language. Here, in Portugal, we speak the English language a lot. But in other countries with the official Portuguese language, English is not so widely spoken. Here I leave the suggestion. I love your videos. You are an excellent communicator. Thanks.
Would you say that the rubber rims on low volume triggered cymbals (like Jobecky) is mainly for dampening purposes? Otherwise, is the rubber rim absolutely necessary?
Hey Justin! Thanks for your vids. Really helpful. Leaving money out of the equation, what would recommend for a gigging drummer for the best set up? I now know the cymbals! What module and drums. Pearl mimic?
Hi there love your videos and content a lot. I am looking into converting my standaard hihat pad into an moving pad. Can you do a video on that please? What controller can you use, how to set it up etc.. thanks alot and keep up the good work! Richard
Justin, I’m just starting to dive into the world of electronic and/or triggered acoustic drums and cymbals for home studio recording but I don’t know much about it yet, I’ve always been an acoustic drum kit drummer. I’m thinking of going with low volume triggered cymbals but I’m curious how that works with a hi-hat. Do you have a video or any advice on the best way to trigger low volume hi-hats?
Not sure if you have a very expensive taste or I'm just missing something very obvious. I'm considering getting some cymbals for my SPD30 based drum kit and I'm mainly looking at some 60€ millenium cymbals for hihat and ride. After reading the positive reviews of them (or even a 90€ Roland CY5) I have no clue why someone would spend 300-700(?!?)$ on a single cymbal pad. Like what are the features justifying those high price tags compared to budget options? Is there a much higher manufacturing cost or what's going on here? I much prefer playing electric over acoustic drum sets so that might play a role in the fact that I'm not looking for the most "authentic" feeling pads. I get the difference between something like a 100$ guitar vs a 700$ electric guitar since it's a whole instrument where the quality difference is usually pretty significant but this just has me baffled.
This videos is about my favorite electronic cymbals, not which cymbals are the best value for the money. But since you asked here are the differences between the cheap cymbals and expensive ones. Lower end cymbals tend to break after a few years, the rubber on them is thinner and lower quality, they also tend to be smaller (there are no $99 18" cymbals), and cheap electronic cymbals don't always trigger as well as flagship electronic cymbals. I'm not saying the cymbals in this video are what EVERYONE should buy. I'm just saying these are the best in the world regardless of price.
Yamaha does make good cymbals, but those cymbals are proprietary to Yamaha modules only (At least the Hihats and Ride cymbals are). And Yamaha hasn't made any new cymbals in years, while other edrum companies are coming out newer and better cymbals year after year.
Awesome video, thank you. So I have purchased a TD-50 and it came with 2 x Roland CY14 C & the Roland CY18-DR. Looking at adding some cymbals - what are your thoughts on the Roland CY-12 Crash Cymbal? Looking for different sizes and definitely need some help. I want to get the ATV 10" splash too but it's not available in the US right now
What are the benefits of larger ride cymbals? I'm guess appearance, spacing to match acoustic kits.... better playability? I dunno, I need to keep my kit small and don't mind small cymbals since they sound exactly the same and play well.
Hi man, have you checked out or heard about the goedrum 360 eCymbals 14" Hi-Hat? Think it could it work for a beginner- intermediate trying to transition from fixed hat and electronic pedal to achieve a better more natural feel of the hats? Apreciate your opinion. Love de vids!
What are those cymbal wingnuts at 8:53 in the video? I have one cymbal that continues to loosen after a few hits and I cannot figure out how to keep it tight. Thanks!
Thank you for this another great video ! Just a question: How do you plug more and more cymbals ? I mean, I only have "2 in" for crash. How do you plug a third and fourth for exemple? :) Thank you again for all your great job ! So helping !
Hey man. U can use a second cheap module or a cable splitter. They can be bought from many Edrum online stores or maybe even amazon. But you’ll only get one zone when u split
I don’t see anything on YT from you an the cymbolic hi hat system with their little foot pedal insert thing. It seems to have some support out there with those that use it. I’m going from a rack mounted hi hat to a stand. Already have the stand. Hi hat sound quality and realism are important to me but I want metal not rubber. I’m weird that way with any cymbal. Thx
In the mean time I finally upgraded my TD-17KL ride from a cheap medeli one zone ride to a Roland CY-13R and I feel like a total boss :D
When upgrading to a VH-11 for my TD-9 well over 10 years ago, I kept using the CY-5 hi-hat as a splash, might look a bit odd but it plays fantastic.
Hey I love the whole drumming on the roof look. Awesome!
ONE OF MY FAVORITE DRUM CHANNELS!!!!!!!!
Great review Justin- you are the best!-- quick and concise, no fluff, no BS, full of great information, and you have really done your homework. Thanks for not wasting our time!
There should be fabric sleeves that stretch over the rubber cymbal.. metallic materials, different colours.. yes they’d wear out but make them affordable & easy to replace.
You could have logos.. your name, band name, 65 Drums.. anything you want
I'll just leave this here since the topic hasn't really been covered on most of the channels I've seen.
The Yamaha cymbals are not completely proprietary to their modules as mentioned elsewhere in the comments. You can plug them into something like an eDRUMin which will detect the cymbal type and adjust accordingly to it. Yamaha cymbals achieve 3 zone triggering with a single cable because of how they are wired. The Roland cymbals separate the zones using a second cable, Yamaha uses a resistor on the same 1/4" TRS to eliminate the need for a second cable which is why you can't use them on other modules. The other third party cymbals are also wired to support Roland.
So, with that said, if you are using one of those boxes with a VST you will get 3 zone cymbal triggering with a cheaper cymbal than what any of the favorite companies listed will provide. You just have to have the time and patience to configure the box to sweeten the zones for your playing style but honestly if you want the best sound and playability out of your edrums you have to fine tune them.
Hope this information helps, as there are companies out there doing some pretty awesome stuff that aren't getting much exposure. It might be because the boxes I'm using only have four ports, but toss three of them together with a VST and you have a more capable system than a TD50 for around $800 if you throw in the cost of Superior Drummer 3. I'm using Yamaha cymbals and my triggers are wired for Roland. They all work in the boxes I'm using. You can save money with diligence and discipline in your technology and get better sounding gear than an 8k ATV or Roland kit.
I have Yamaha cymbals, absolutely love them. 13” hats much nicer system 1 cymbal 2 TRS cables and regular hihat stand , no sensor To plug in. 15” ride was 100$ used bought my whole Yamaha dtx560 kit for 500$ 13” hats w/stand 13 crash ,13” crash/ride. Bought dtx pro module last week for it . Gets here Monday
Hey buddy! Thanks for your vids! These are the kind I like and need! I’m 100% with u. And I think it’s a good thing to mention to everyone that it’s simplest to start at the cheapest and work your way up like I did. Find ur own comfort level. Reselling is super easy in this field. And and.....U spelt everything right this time 🤣. Thanks dude
Wait.. did he just drum on his roof?
Roof drumming, deserves the quiet night.....
Literally my list would be the same as yours.
Please a video on how long top line ecymbals last, and how hard you are able to hit them safely, also id love a real basic demonstration on how to diagnose and fix an ecymbal so ideally we can play through them without the worry of anything more than a 20 min solder iron job, i love the content dude.
I really like videos like this👍
Those look awesome. I've always played an acoustic set I feel like if I ever switched these would be the first I go for
The best metal HH Ive played on (currently) is Stealth. Best rubber hi hat is VH13 hands down.
Dude. That rooftop shot is cool and ballsy as hell lmao. I'm not a heights kinda guy so my feet were sweating just watching those clips 😂
Woah. You carried your kit up on the roof for a 4 second clip? Now *that's dedication my man!
I'm buying a td-50k2 on monday, good to hear that your fav cymbals all come with it.
DUDE GREAT JOB ON INFO I GIVE YOU A 10 PLUS ON VIDEO TOTALLY REAL SALESMEN PROFESSIONAL I DIG THOSE CYMBALS LOVE HOW EVERY ONE IS CONVERTING THE BOTH DRUMS TOGETHER!! IT ROKS AND LOOKS COOL
Justin, I have a TD30KV but was disappointed that little mention was made of the Yamaha 3-zone PCY range of cymbals which are excellent.
your content is crazy good because there is not another voice like yours. one of these companies is going to scoop you up and then you won't be independent and that will be a loss for us. But good for you if that happens you will have earned it. thank you for sharing so much knowledge.
Great video Justin I hope you and your family are doing well my dear friend 👊👍😎
Excellent video!
You think the Roland VH-13 hi hats are expensive, wait till they come out with the digital hi hats.
yeah that's one thing I'm definitely worried about
This 👏 guy 👏 needs 👏 more 👏 subs 👏
Cool video Justin!! Nice review of all the cymbals!!
definitely will need to refer back to this video when I graduate college and move my set into an apartment, thanks for the help man!!!
Nice chart.. for a different world. I would really like to see some Alesis and Lemon cymbals. You know, the 5x more affordable ones.
Excellent coverage of the various types of options!
I noticed on your drum set that sometimes I see regular rims and at other times the rims are black and look like they have rubber edges. Please let me know what the black rims are. I haven't played drums in over 50 years but electronic drums have sure peaked new interest. Thanks for all the work you put into your channel.
Awesome as always, watche sit when I came out and now I am in the market and this is still my go to. You are the best Justin!
Justin, I got a Vh 13 from japan for 500 brand new included tax, so you should be say that, because in US Retail is 700 but if you get from Japan is 460 dollars and you get in 3 days. Yes 3 days... is freak
Well done bro. Heaps of good info. Thanks
Hey Justin, I have a full kit coming in from Jobeky with cymbals. I don't know how long it will take to get here because I'm in Oregon and they are based in the UK. I watch your channel and it's helped me and so many others that maybe I could do my part and lend you the cymbals if you would like to do a full review on them? All I ask is you pay shipping when you send them back to me =D
When they get here I'll have:
2x 16 inch crash
1x 10 inch splash
1x 18 ride
Hi hats
Dark Bronze line.
If your interest that is.
I'll keep that very kind offer in mind, thanks David!
@@65Drums =D
Awesome vid! Been thinking of upgrading my hi hats for my Strike. Noise isn’t that big of a deal for me so I’m going to check out the Field and Jobecky ones.
I keep wanting the metal cymbals but I worry about trigger accuracy
1) are you aware of any triggers only available for acoustic hihats/cymbals ? I know there are brands that sell metallic hihats for 400+. Full 5 piece cymbal set could cost 1000+
2) Thomannmusic has a hihat set with stand for less than 150 shipped to us. Comes with their top end millennium 1000 model
It would be cool to have a electronic symbol manufactured to look like a acoustic metal symbol,...some sort of new technology, with a thin metallic coating or veneer....I believe who ever can come up with this and incorporate a wide variety like those for acoustic drums is gonna make a fortune.
Loved the video. I'm glad to see you listed the best $2500 set as the Strike Pro SE. I'm very drawn to this set and want to get it based on all the features, pads, and that you can tune them and make them feel closer to acoustic drums. I'm wondering if you keep in mind the ATV EXS-5 when making that ranking. Although the alesis set excites me more, i have some skepticism built up after looking at so many things online the past couple weeks. Thanks!
I just purchased the Strike Pro SE(upgraded from the Command Mesh which was great for the price point). I'm excited I found this channel cuz I totally forgot that most trigger pads can be swapped(like I could get a roland hi hat and it'll work etc...)
Great video. I learn alot here on your channel about electronic drums. You know your stuff very well and it's well explained.
I have the Triggera 14’ China and its a single zone no choke but its triggering spans the bow and surprisingly enough the movement behaves physically correct and also the way you hit it can give that hit loss chinas have.
Thanks for your know how and expertise man. It’s been helpful. I decided to go for the roland td07kv and got a cy13r as an extra. They Should arrive this week. Let’s see how it goes.
Saludos de Mexico!
👊🏽💥
How did you like your td-07kv??
@@mattryan6886 I absolutely love it. I got it a ride cymbal and it kicks butt. 👊🏽😎
Awesome video! any plans on doing one for drum pads?
3:48 is part of his video intro
Very thorough analysis great channel well done
QUESTION: Of the hit-hats featured here, which ones will work with an Alesis Strike Kit? (that is better than the included hats...) - I really don't like the Strike's hat's even after all the recommended updates and adjustments, it's just not sensitive enough with foot usage + combined strikes.
As far as i know, everything. I know for sure that the atv one will work, i cant tell that the roland ones will 100% work (because i havnt seen it with my own eyes), but i think it will work just fine.
I might try experimenting with a cheap metal cymbal, get a piezo and a tub of transparent/clear plastidip to see if it works in volume reduction. Might wear quickly though, but it could be a fun DIY trial.
You’re a friggen beauty for this thank you
I have the Roland CY-13R that came with my TD-17KVX as a ride and you really have to lay into the bell to get it to trigger. From a cursory google search, this seems to be a common problem. Do the other Roland / non-Roland cymbals act the same way?
Hi from Argentina!
Great video!
How does the performance of the Field/Jobeky cymbals compare to Roland/ATV?
Justin,
I noticed you didn’t mention Alesis cymbals in your cymbal analysis. Was wondering your thoughts on the cymbals with their new strike pro SE kit? Your separate video on this kit vs Roland, you were quite impressed with it. So just wondering as seriously considering the Alesis kit.
Hey Justin, I’m trying to convert an acoustic drum set into an electric kit. I already have drum triggers and this video helped me find the cymbals that I want. I am curious as to what drum module I should purchase. I want a TD-30 but I’m not sure if everything will be compatible. Could you help me out?
The 2Box modules are worth looking at if you want more control and ability to build your own sounds from scratch (but I own one, so I am slightly biased... 😏 ).
Roland seems to be the most compatible with everything. Google it and search the forums. They are a wealth of knowledge.
Hi Justin, have you checked the Roland VH-12 vs. the VH-13? Is there any difference, except the build a different controller? Have both the same resolution? Thanks for your great informative channel!
Thanks for this. I know there are a lot of cymbals and hi hats here, but I lose track of them all through the life of the video. Would be nice to have a product list name so I can further research this topic.
I've had a Yamaha PCY-155 3 zone ride for the past 5 years that's performed flawlessly, but it looks like it's time to check out ATV. Thanks for the tip.
I love the yamaha stuff too. Good, solid gear and cheaper than roland for the same build quality. Not sure why yamaha aren't mentioned in this video. I prefer the yamaha modules to roland too. Cheaper and much more realistic sounds to my ears.
I think that it's strange that no Yamaha cymbal made it into any of Justin's top 5's.
It must be Justin's preference because it's not like the Yamaha cymbals are inferior. (they are also better priced than ATV and Roland)
Wowowww... Hello from India brother!!! ... Great explanation and content there. Keep coming with videos such as these.
This questions isn't relevant to cymbols but on SD3 and very sorry for being wet behind the ears on the topic of VST Drumming. I am contemplating to buy the SD3. But my edrums are pretty basic (Carlsbro SC D600, I wonder whether u heard of this? It is around $750). So, would I be able to seamlessly use/exploit superior drummer no matter the make or model of my electronic kit?
Meaning, be it a top of the line Roland/Alesis or the $750 model which I'm possessing, would the sounds generated be the same quality from SD3 with both these kits when interfaced or setup properly with the SD3 VST? ( here that, I'm ruling out the quality difference of the pads or heads themselves, or perhaps a Roland kit might have presets within SD3 to aid set up sensitivity etc and possibly the discomfort of smaller pads on the $750 kit compared to top of a line Roland). But you may tell a kit makes a player good to an extent. But still not bringing these to light the crux of my question is:
Would I be able to bring out the similar sounding drum grooves or licks or an audio from the SD3 VST, no matter the kit being put behind the VST to trigger'em?
Not sure if anyone could help me out here, but has the Roland CY16-RT officially come out yet? And if it did, where can I purchase it? I can’t find it anywhere, and if I do, it’s from a shady foreign website that lists it for about $500 USD. So I was surprised when Justin said it was $350, which is MUCH more suitable for my budget. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
Sweetwater is a trustworthy Roland retailer. If it’s not on Sweetwater, odds are it’s not yet available. If you’re in Europe you can check thomann.
Great video, very informative. Thank you!
Another really great video Justin. Cheers man. I was >this< close to buying the VH13's which I saw on marketplace for a ridiculously good price but then looked up comparability with my trusty TD9 and no dice! I don't hate my VH11's though. But I'm desperate for a larger ride and it's hard to go past Roland's 18 so I'm feeling a module upgrade might finally be in the cards soon...
One of the biggest minuses with ATV cymbals - they are very easy to break and no one will repair it for you.
I love my ATV 18 inch ride but man it was expensive at $800 Canadian
5:06 David Frank! Woo!
yeah he's a pretty cool dude, met him a few times
Kinda of curios that yamaha wasn’t in any of the top’s. They may should think about upgrading hardware...
Great 2020 review, and plans for a 2022 update? What about Gen-16?
FYI for anyone considering metal cymbals: Just dont. Ive had both a full set of Jobeky and Field cymbals and I cant recommend either brands. The chap roland cymbals that came with my old Edrum kit held up better than any of these did. Ive had to have Jobeky replace 2 cymbals and Field fix another which then broke again. What you get in looks, you sacrifice in sensitivity, durability and loudness. Looks like Ill probably have to replace them all with a rubber set as they all stop working eventually.
I was planning to buy Jobeky brillance cymbals :') Are they really not reliable ? It seems to be more solid than LV series.. What serie did you owned ?
Thanks !
Surprised not one Yamaha cymbal....Yamaha cymbals are 100% on par with Roland in my experience (perhaps, except for the digital stuff)..
Maybe the DTX8 and DTX8 series didn't back then (I don't really know), this video has a few years. This doesn't mean that a Yamaha cymbal will be in his top now anyways 😆 I would love an updated version of this ranking!
I think that it's strange that no Yamaha cymbal made made it into Justin's top 5 list.
It must be Justin's preference because it's not like the Yamaha cymbals are inferior. (they are also better priced than ATV and Roland)
Excellent video. Thank you!
All the cymbals on that kit suddenly had an extra zone. The roof zone....
I know this was 4 years ago. And I am one of the mid 50's guys that the kids have left for college and I am getting the band back together. I am converting a Tama Starclassic Maple into an electronic kit, I have purchased the Drum-tec pro triggers and their mesh heads and will more than likely be buying the TD-50 to run everything. What are the best cymbals now? Roland? E-tone? Efnote, Zildjian? Help please
Hi. I think your videos are very interesting. I'll give you a suggestion, with all due respect, of course. If you put translation into Portuguese, you would have a few thousand more followers on your channel. Let's see: Brazil alone has 210 million people
And Brazilians watch more videos with their language.
Here, in Portugal, we speak the English language a lot. But in other countries with the official Portuguese language, English is not so widely spoken. Here I leave the suggestion. I love your videos. You are an excellent communicator. Thanks.
GREAT REVIEW 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
Are you now able to buy that 16” Roland CY-16R-T ? I thought it only came with the set and not for individual sale?
They are also available individually, but they aren't released yet as far as I know - release date in EU seems to be getting pushed back every time.
@@exci6198 It is on drum-tec.com for 350 euro's.
@@mgjansen1 "Available in 6 weeks". Which, as I said, keeps getting pushed back.
I've upgraded my CY-8 to CY-15R a year ago and now I'm just jealous 😂
Would you say that the rubber rims on low volume triggered cymbals (like Jobecky) is mainly for dampening purposes? Otherwise, is the rubber rim absolutely necessary?
Played drums since 7 ,now 54 ,practice minimum 2 hours a day but am not a businessman type so can’t afford any of these cymbals,in my next life sigh.
Do first impressions of the Millennium mps 750x
Thanks for this!
Have you found a video that shows you how to build an ATV or Roland cymbal with rubber everything
The rubber cymbals just feel terrible and heavy. I’ve tried but I can’t get used to them.
My favorite cymbals would be the Ozone effect cymbal.
Yeyyyy e cymbals
Hey Justin! Thanks for your vids. Really helpful. Leaving money out of the equation, what would recommend for a gigging drummer for the best set up?
I now know the cymbals!
What module and drums. Pearl mimic?
Hi there love your videos and content a lot. I am looking into converting my standaard hihat pad into an moving pad. Can you do a video on that please? What controller can you use, how to set it up etc.. thanks alot and keep up the good work!
Richard
Justin, I’m just starting to dive into the world of electronic and/or triggered acoustic drums and cymbals for home studio recording but I don’t know much about it yet, I’ve always been an acoustic drum kit drummer. I’m thinking of going with low volume triggered cymbals but I’m curious how that works with a hi-hat. Do you have a video or any advice on the best way to trigger low volume hi-hats?
Not sure if you have a very expensive taste or I'm just missing something very obvious. I'm considering getting some cymbals for my SPD30 based drum kit and I'm mainly looking at some 60€ millenium cymbals for hihat and ride. After reading the positive reviews of them (or even a 90€ Roland CY5) I have no clue why someone would spend 300-700(?!?)$ on a single cymbal pad. Like what are the features justifying those high price tags compared to budget options? Is there a much higher manufacturing cost or what's going on here? I much prefer playing electric over acoustic drum sets so that might play a role in the fact that I'm not looking for the most "authentic" feeling pads. I get the difference between something like a 100$ guitar vs a 700$ electric guitar since it's a whole instrument where the quality difference is usually pretty significant but this just has me baffled.
This videos is about my favorite electronic cymbals, not which cymbals are the best value for the money. But since you asked here are the differences between the cheap cymbals and expensive ones. Lower end cymbals tend to break after a few years, the rubber on them is thinner and lower quality, they also tend to be smaller (there are no $99 18" cymbals), and cheap electronic cymbals don't always trigger as well as flagship electronic cymbals. I'm not saying the cymbals in this video are what EVERYONE should buy. I'm just saying these are the best in the world regardless of price.
@@65Drums would be cool to see some kind of budget version of this video. Can't really find anything covering electric cymbals.
You didn’t cover Yamaha cymbals?
Im guessing because they arnt the leader in any particular area.
Yamaha does make good cymbals, but those cymbals are proprietary to Yamaha modules only (At least the Hihats and Ride cymbals are). And Yamaha hasn't made any new cymbals in years, while other edrum companies are coming out newer and better cymbals year after year.
@@65Drums fairs dos, i never knew they were proprietary
@@65Drums also do you know why the atv fx cymbal is hard to find? I really want one to finish my set
I'm a big fan of the Yamaha cymbals! I have mine plugged into an old dtx module with midi out into my 2box module
Is there A snare and tom version of this style video?
Awesome video, thank you. So I have purchased a TD-50 and it came with 2 x Roland CY14 C & the Roland CY18-DR. Looking at adding some cymbals - what are your thoughts on the Roland CY-12 Crash Cymbal? Looking for different sizes and definitely need some help. I want to get the ATV 10" splash too but it's not available in the US right now
What are the benefits of larger ride cymbals? I'm guess appearance, spacing to match acoustic kits.... better playability? I dunno, I need to keep my kit small and don't mind small cymbals since they sound exactly the same and play well.
Hi man, have you checked out or heard about the goedrum 360 eCymbals 14" Hi-Hat? Think it could it work for a beginner- intermediate trying to transition from fixed hat and electronic pedal to achieve a better more natural feel of the hats? Apreciate your opinion. Love de vids!
Can you know make a new video like this? And like bassdrums and pads?!?😍
What are those cymbal wingnuts at 8:53 in the video? I have one cymbal that continues to loosen after a few hits and I cannot figure out how to keep it tight. Thanks!
My vh10 is a lot louder on top than on the edge it's not a big deal but why is this ?
because the edge is an overhang of rubber. The top of the cymbal has a plastic support plate under it
@@65Drums thanks Jason for that.
Do you know if the Roland vh10 hi hat will work with an alesis dm10 module
Must be time for a new version of this vid Justin??
Thank you for this another great video ! Just a question: How do you plug more and more cymbals ? I mean, I only have "2 in" for crash. How do you plug a third and fourth for exemple? :)
Thank you again for all your great job ! So helping !
Hey man. U can use a second cheap module or a cable splitter. They can be bought from many Edrum online stores or maybe even amazon. But you’ll only get one zone when u split
Beau Hale thank you ! 👍🏻☺️
I don’t see anything on YT from you an the cymbolic hi hat system with their little foot pedal insert thing. It seems to have some support out there with those that use it. I’m going from a rack mounted hi hat to a stand. Already have the stand. Hi hat sound quality and realism are important to me but I want metal not rubber. I’m weird that way with any cymbal. Thx
Damn, the cymbals I want are all sold out lol.
Someone is selling the vh13, open box, For 450 usd.... I am starting thinking if I really need a roof that much.
No Medeli?
They are inexpensive, but they aren't the best in the world yet.
@@65Drums Lol, was just kidding around. It's a 65Drums axiom that Medeli is far from upper-tier.