In the early 2000s me and some friends used to run an internet Cafe and all our pcs used asrock boards. Those things took a beating, they ran for years. 18 hours a day, 6 days a week, all the games.. we would swear by asrock. Now I wouldn't even want to touch an asrock board. I am a bit sad about it, but it is what it is.
Great video Brian!! Very informative ! Here's the thing.. I have time to decide, as my funds are no where near being ready to upgrade. That being said you covered things pretty darned well ! If I were to upgrade though.. I definitely think I would go with ASUS first (not the highest end) but the tough choice would be a ddr4 or ddr5.. it is a tough call.. luckily my monetary constraints means that by the time I feel I need to retire my 9900k , that ddr5 will be more readily available , more cost effective , and by then higher performance then it already is . My advice? Just like with windows 11 .. Don't be an early adopter for the sake of being an early adopter.. it will only cost you unnecessary money , and possibly buyers remorse in the future. If what you have works well enough for now.. then wait and let the prices and kinks get worked out for a while to allow you to make a more well informed decision..
Thank you, this was so very helpful. I've been in tech for 25 years working on multi-million dollar projects, this new upgrade had me stumped at first. New chipset, new memory, new motherboard innovations, and I want to keep my Noctua!. I'm probably going to go for the Strix Z690-G and a 12900K - it will be the first upgrade since 2017 so might as well be for something meaningful. I will hold off for a few months though - let's see how it beds in and it gets Christmas out of the way.
I had a negative experience with them, but it was back in the z97 devils canyon days. Replaced the AsRock with a gigabyte back in 2015 and I’m just retiring that build. I tried the MSI pro series and it was junk. Long post times, no wake after sleep and many more bugs, sure enough returned and purchased a gigabyte z690 board and haven’t had issues since.
I'm now scratching my head about the direction since i've only just recently built my X570 Aorus Master AM4 build, already have Thunderbolt 3 and 10Gbe - so Im wondering if the new boards requiring new LGA 1700 CPU's are actually worth the money to upgrade, will I actually see any noticeable improvements, so i'd be interested to hear some feedback. Im inclined to stick with my current machine until new features justify the cash required...
Great video, as always, Brian. At first, I was disappointed, only one current offering of mATX. But then, I realized: SLI/CF is dead. I don’t use a sound card for well over 15 years. I don’t use a PCI-e card other than the single GPU in my system. Everything else is either m2 (including the wireless adapter) or USB. I don’t expand memory over the two DIMM slots. So why not mini-ITX? I really don’t need to go back up to the ATX/eATX sizes. Now if only mini-ITX weren’t outrageous expensive for what they offer… Thanks for filling the gap on what else exists aside of performance and AMD vs Intel discussions others are focusing on.
That is a very now look at it. In the near future it could be crucial for video games, a specially with the Xbox and PS5 leveraging really fast SSD’s combined with very fast RAM as a main feature of their architecture.
My wife is building a new machine here (I let her go first as we can't afford 2 PC's at once and she games on PC much more than I DO) She recently bought tha ASUS Z690-E Motherboard for her new PC. We've been Buyying components since the beginning of the month as we see them going on sale or at a good price So far We have her machine 70% ordered Needing just a GPU, PSU and Windows Key left to buy But none of the parts we ordered have yet arrived. Once she gets her new machine her old Laptop will sell and recoup us most of the money we spent on the new machine. and then in the spring once I am able to get some Holiday bonus money etc etc then I should be able to afford to buy a PC for myself. to replace this old aging I7 4000 Series "Beast" i have going now. We actually both wanted similar components in our new builds except for the GPU so we opted to buy the lower of the 2 GPUs we wanted at first (In hopes I can convince her that that GPU is in fact enough for her needs) and then if she still does want a bigger GPU once I am able to afford my PC I will buy the bigger GPU and swap with her.
where is anyone getting ddr5 from? I'm trying to get the best z690 for video editing and music, but only want ddr4, ddr5 isnt worth it and too hard to find and expensive. Any suggestions, ive been looking for 2 days. Are the ones in this video the only ones? Im looking for top of the line ddr4 z690, if there are any not listed
Hey, my 12900k just arrived and I am searching for the right mainboard for it. do you think a Gigabyte Aorus Pro is enough and capable of the i9 12900k? I saw it ''only'' has 1x8/1x4pin CPU power delivery, will that be a problem? (not planning to OC) Thanks for your help in advance! :)
@@BPSCustoms thanks for your fast reply, appreciate it. I'm living in germany. I don't know the current pricing of it in the US, but the MSI Carbon is 469€ here while the Aorus Pro sits at 329€. Thats a whole lot more. :/ Even the Aorus Master is cheaper with 465€
So I'm debating on which motherboard to buy in hopes to be future proof (or as best as I can be...) I'm getting the i9 12900k(s) cpu and have the Lian Li Dynamic Evo case. Looking to support DDR5, spend no more then $800 Any recommendations? I'm was considering the ASUS-ROG-Z69 Carbon...
i really need help. i have a 12900k, 3090 ftw3 hybrid, corsair 7000D airflow, and the latest 420mm aio from corsair for the 12900k. I want the absolute best z690 ddr4 board. which is it? i also want the absolute best 64gb ddr4 gaming memory as well.
I went with the Gigabyte Elite AX ddr4, very solid motherboard. I originally purchased the Msi pro series, what a terrible motherboard. Literally has no launch update and it would take 1 min to post before boot, and it would not wake up after the pc went into sleep mode.
@@thomasmarshall7570 it’s been fantastic so far, the only issue I had was getting my m.2 nvme to show up.Very easy fix, just update from F2 to F4 (or the latest) uefi bios when you get your board. I made the jump to windows 11 and it has been great except for not being able to install origin. No issues with steam or uplay.
@@IzaguirreC Thanks for the heads up! I'll also be going with windows 11, it seems like windows 11 is getting optimisation updates first so I think it's also a great decision to go that route.
Thank you for the video. Was planning to buy an pre-built w12th gen i7 or i5, but in my country and the places I checked they only have DDR4 MSI PRO-A. Fucking budget motherboard for an +$2.8k computer. Thank you for video again
Yes, just another form factor to screw us over. Just develop the socket LGA 3000 and be done with it for the next 20 years. By then I'll be eating baby food again ;) Great review, thanks.
They don't care about current buyers, as in buyers who don't plan on being back for another motherboard for the next 3 years or more. They just keep feeding the mouths of rich kids, without any accountability (not enough reviews on said products).
Terrific video Brian 👍🥰. I agree with your Asrock description. It’s a shame as many years ago, when they popped into the pc scene, they were offering great products at cheaper prices ….. now they offer substandard products at higher prices 🤯😭.
You are absolutely right sir, best video one of those information. Now days fucking TH-camr misleading and taking promotion advance most biased and against for the people. No one talking about value for product quality, stability, future proof operations and affordability, and of course brand value Thank you for your information
Keke,hit the dislike button twice!Lol real slick. Wanted to find out more between Strix G and Strix I.Take care mate.thanks for the content. Will keep watching😆
Noting hard just stick with Asus motherboards. You can't go wrong if you wants the best of the best go with ROG and Strix, for mainstream/entry TUF and Prime. For creators ProArt..
Nice ! I think they are quite expensive 😬 if someone is considering an upgrade to intel it's quite a bit more expensive than amd .. the mobo +cpu+ddr5+aio adds up
@sabishiihito You are insane if you pay less than $280 for a motherboard this gen You might as well pair it with a Gigabyte GP-P750GM PSU that you know will explode before your motherboards underpowered and undercooled VRM does
People spend 2x that for XOC motherboards because they value the feature set; no one is breaking WRs on cheap mobos. You don't get to do decide what's too much to pay for something for others.
@@sabishiihito And XOC'ers represent what? 0.00001% of motherboard buyers? I was giving my MY OPINION. Here's another one of my opinions: You are a.. GOOF!
@@JamesSmith-sw3nk your opinion is worthless outside of yourself, yet you stated it as if it were some universal fact. You're not the world's authority on what is valuable or not. How about "I personally don't see the point of motherboards above $250, but other people might and that's okay."
![The ULTIMATE Intel Z690 Motherboard Roundup Review [10 Motherboards BENCHMARKED]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tSjGhAxR8d8/mqdefault.jpg)
In the early 2000s me and some friends used to run an internet Cafe and all our pcs used asrock boards. Those things took a beating, they ran for years. 18 hours a day, 6 days a week, all the games.. we would swear by asrock. Now I wouldn't even want to touch an asrock board. I am a bit sad about it, but it is what it is.
What do you mean with an expensive kit of DDR5? Like the ram price compared to the price of a DDR4?
This was a really good video, Brian! Thanks for breaking down the Z690 motherboards in a way that even my addled brain could understand easily.
The one dislike on this video came from someone that bought that ROG Z-690 i motherboard lol
This video was a huge help, thanks for taking the time to do it!
Great video Brian!! Very informative ! Here's the thing.. I have time to decide, as my funds are no where near being ready to upgrade. That being said you covered things pretty darned well ! If I were to upgrade though.. I definitely think I would go with ASUS first (not the highest end) but the tough choice would be a ddr4 or ddr5.. it is a tough call.. luckily my monetary constraints means that by the time I feel I need to retire my 9900k , that ddr5 will be more readily available , more cost effective , and by then higher performance then it already is . My advice? Just like with windows 11 .. Don't be an early adopter for the sake of being an early adopter.. it will only cost you unnecessary money , and possibly buyers remorse in the future. If what you have works well enough for now.. then wait and let the prices and kinks get worked out for a while to allow you to make a more well informed decision..
Thank you, this was so very helpful. I've been in tech for 25 years working on multi-million dollar projects, this new upgrade had me stumped at first. New chipset, new memory, new motherboard innovations, and I want to keep my Noctua!. I'm probably going to go for the Strix Z690-G and a 12900K - it will be the first upgrade since 2017 so might as well be for something meaningful. I will hold off for a few months though - let's see how it beds in and it gets Christmas out of the way.
wow same here my last upgrade was 2017
ASRock customer support is alright IMO. RMA my X570 board with not much questions asked. Guess their support varies person to person
I had a negative experience with them, but it was back in the z97 devils canyon days. Replaced the AsRock with a gigabyte back in 2015 and I’m just retiring that build. I tried the MSI pro series and it was junk. Long post times, no wake after sleep and many more bugs, sure enough returned and purchased a gigabyte z690 board and haven’t had issues since.
@@IzaguirreC can I ask the specific Gigabyte Z690 board model?
@@GTAEmergencyVideography I purchased a gigabyte z690 Aurous Elite Ax ddr4
i have a feeling there's going to be a bunch of z690 boards for sale a lot cheaper in about 2 or 3 months when ryzen 3d comes out
Well that prediction was real.
I'm now scratching my head about the direction since i've only just recently built my X570 Aorus Master AM4 build, already have Thunderbolt 3 and 10Gbe - so Im wondering if the new boards requiring new LGA 1700 CPU's are actually worth the money to upgrade, will I actually see any noticeable improvements, so i'd be interested to hear some feedback. Im inclined to stick with my current machine until new features justify the cash required...
great video, thank you...
also, would be amazing if you could make longer videos about motherboards👍👍 keep up the great work
want to upgrade but entry level ddr5 speed and timings are bad :(
Either hold off or get a ddr4 variant. I did not want to pay the ddr5 prices with the cas latency.
The Asus ROG Maximus Hero is what I'll get, even though it's complete overkill for my needs.
I went with the Asus Motherboard Z690 ROG Strix F-Gaming WiFi hope I made a good choice boy's as I game quite hard
One of the best you'll be fine
@@GTAEmergencyVideography awesome man thank you
Except for the fact that DDR5 is almost impossible to find.
I went with the Asus Tuf Gaming Z690 Plus Wifi D4 and a Intel i5-12600K, love it!!
What is the difference between Z690 A and Z690 P ?
Do you think ASUs TUF would be able to handle 12700 and 3080 without over clocking? Mostly for gaming and streaming
only thing the formula is missing is dual bios I am trying to decide between that and the apex right now
What type of ddr motherboards are those????
Great video, as always, Brian.
At first, I was disappointed, only one current offering of mATX. But then, I realized: SLI/CF is dead. I don’t use a sound card for well over 15 years. I don’t use a PCI-e card other than the single GPU in my system. Everything else is either m2 (including the wireless adapter) or USB. I don’t expand memory over the two DIMM slots. So why not mini-ITX? I really don’t need to go back up to the ATX/eATX sizes. Now if only mini-ITX weren’t outrageous expensive for what they offer…
Thanks for filling the gap on what else exists aside of performance and AMD vs Intel discussions others are focusing on.
I think If I were choosing a Mobo for 12th gen I think I may go with the z690 Tomohawk from Msi not too expensive but good enough
whitch one for just gaming but not too expencive?
I agree. For most people, taking advantage of DDR5 isn't realistic. For general purposes and gaming, any DDR4 will be more than enough.
That is a very now look at it. In the near future it could be crucial for video games, a specially with the Xbox and PS5 leveraging really fast SSD’s combined with very fast RAM as a main feature of their architecture.
Asus TUF coming this way with i7-12700k this holiday ^^
That's the same mobo i want but its sold out everywhere right now
picked up a Gigabyte Z690 Elite, 12600k and already have 64 GB of Gskill 4000.
Very similar build as me except I went with the 12700kf, same ram as well. I got the AX model, very solid board so far.
where did you get ddr5 from?
@@traumegaz mine is the ddr4 version
I really wish that there was a white board with thunderbolt built into the rear I/o that wasn’t so expensive. Guess the Formula is what I’ll get…
My wife is building a new machine here (I let her go first as we can't afford 2 PC's at once and she games on PC much more than I DO)
She recently bought tha ASUS Z690-E Motherboard for her new PC.
We've been Buyying components since the beginning of the month as we see them going on sale or at a good price
So far
We have her machine 70% ordered Needing just a GPU, PSU and Windows Key left to buy
But none of the parts we ordered have yet arrived.
Once she gets her new machine her old Laptop will sell and recoup us most of the money we spent on the new machine. and then in the spring once I am able to get some Holiday bonus money etc etc then I should be able to afford to buy a PC for myself. to replace this old aging I7 4000 Series "Beast" i have going now.
We actually both wanted similar components in our new builds except for the GPU so we opted to buy the lower of the 2 GPUs we wanted at first (In hopes I can convince her that that GPU is in fact enough for her needs) and then if she still does want a bigger GPU once I am able to afford my PC I will buy the bigger GPU and swap with her.
where is anyone getting ddr5 from? I'm trying to get the best z690 for video editing and music, but only want ddr4, ddr5 isnt worth it and too hard to find and expensive. Any suggestions, ive been looking for 2 days. Are the ones in this video the only ones? Im looking for top of the line ddr4 z690, if there are any not listed
So now that you've been looking for 2 months, you had any luck?
Hey, my 12900k just arrived and I am searching for the right mainboard for it.
do you think a Gigabyte Aorus Pro is enough and capable of the i9 12900k?
I saw it ''only'' has 1x8/1x4pin CPU power delivery, will that be a problem? (not planning to OC)
Thanks for your help in advance! :)
It will run the chip sure. But honestly I'd spend a little more. The MSI Carbon is a nice step up from there.
@@BPSCustoms thanks for your fast reply, appreciate it. I'm living in germany. I don't know the current pricing of it in the US, but the MSI Carbon is 469€ here while the Aorus Pro sits at 329€. Thats a whole lot more. :/ Even the Aorus Master is cheaper with 465€
I've got the Gigabyte Pro DDR4, its a solid board
Will gigabyte pro ddr5 ok with 12700k?
@@ZomgZomg007 Do you mean Z690 Aorus Elite? Does a Pro version with DDR4 even exist?
Finally a board for my white build. The formula it is.
Why you didn't add 2 brands like ASRock and EVGA ?
EVGA hasn't released any boards yet. Also, did you watch the video?
So I'm debating on which motherboard to buy in hopes to be future proof (or as best as I can be...)
I'm getting the i9 12900k(s) cpu and have the Lian Li Dynamic Evo case. Looking to support DDR5, spend no more then $800
Any recommendations?
I'm was considering the ASUS-ROG-Z69 Carbon...
Got my Asus Z690 hero and 12900K already. Just waiting on my Corsair DDR5 and AIO.
Thx, you are much helpful. I like asus z690-A ,
I love the look of that Formula!
It's so sick
wich one is more high-end and better for 13th gen cpu??
Msi pro Z690 D4
Asus prime z690-p D4
Gigabyte Z690 UD D4
AORUS ELITE Z690-M D4
That mini itx loos TINY!!
going from an i5 6600 to an i9 12900kf lol big change gonna buy mother and ram next couple of months but not sure yet about mb.
can you use DDR4 memory in the Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Pro? Or do you have to striclty use DDR5?
Go look up the board.
Can’t imagine spending over 1k+ just for the motherboard and ddr5 setup, especially if it’s just for gaming.
Would I get more fps gaming at 5k by upgrading from using x99 5960x 4.5hz, 3200ram with a 1080ti to a z690 12900k, ddr4 5066?
need a better gpu, your gpu will bottleneck you either way at that point
I might get the tuf z690 honestly
11.08 - Agreed 👍
Brian, great content- I thought spending $220 on my ROG Strix B550i was expensive…dang…thank goodness I won’t need to upgrade for awhile.
i really need help. i have a 12900k, 3090 ftw3 hybrid, corsair 7000D airflow, and the latest 420mm aio from corsair for the 12900k. I want the absolute best z690 ddr4 board. which is it? i also want the absolute best 64gb ddr4 gaming memory as well.
i bought the asus rog maximus for 613euros... i hope i made the right choice
I went with the gigabyte gaming x ddr4. Seemed like good value for me. More than enough on it for gaming.
I went with the Gigabyte Elite AX ddr4, very solid motherboard. I originally purchased the Msi pro series, what a terrible motherboard. Literally has no launch update and it would take 1 min to post before boot, and it would not wake up after the pc went into sleep mode.
@@IzaguirreC That's great to hear! Im getting my mobo this week. Gigabyte seems to have stepped up their game.
@@thomasmarshall7570 it’s been fantastic so far, the only issue I had was getting my m.2 nvme to show up.Very easy fix, just update from F2 to F4 (or the latest) uefi bios when you get your board. I made the jump to windows 11 and it has been great except for not being able to install origin. No issues with steam or uplay.
@@IzaguirreC Thanks for the heads up! I'll also be going with windows 11, it seems like windows 11 is getting optimisation updates first so I think it's also a great decision to go that route.
@@IzaguirreC Did you get the Gigabyte Elite AX DDR4 for AMD or Intel?
Wow, of course Intel would have motherboards with DDR4 and DDR5 on the same chipset, they want to make building computers as confusing as possible.
Thank you for the video. Was planning to buy an pre-built w12th gen i7 or i5, but in my country and the places I checked they only have DDR4 MSI PRO-A. Fucking budget motherboard for an +$2.8k computer. Thank you for video again
For me, i will get the Asus TUF Wi-fi... since that is the only one in stock :))))
When a good B450 is $100 and less, good times.
For those who dare...nicely put
Yes, just another form factor to screw us over. Just develop the socket LGA 3000 and be done with it for the next 20 years. By then I'll be eating baby food again ;) Great review, thanks.
They don't care about current buyers, as in buyers who don't plan on being back for another motherboard for the next 3 years or more. They just keep feeding the mouths of rich kids, without any accountability (not enough reviews on said products).
help choose a board form these
MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI DDR4 -
MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 -
ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 -
ASUS TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi -
TUF Gaming Z690 wifi
Can't find a mobo haha, plenty of cpus but no components to build.......
Terrific video Brian 👍🥰. I agree with your Asrock description. It’s a shame as many years ago, when they popped into the pc scene, they were offering great products at cheaper prices ….. now they offer substandard products at higher prices 🤯😭.
Sooooo....uhhhhh....you gonna use that formula? 😳😳😁😁
Please include the Taichi from Asrock, that looks like one of the best to get.
You are absolutely right sir, best video one of those information.
Now days fucking TH-camr misleading and taking promotion advance most biased and against for the people. No one talking about value for product quality, stability, future proof operations and affordability, and of course brand value
Thank you for your information
Keke,hit the dislike button twice!Lol real slick. Wanted to find out more between Strix G and Strix I.Take care mate.thanks for the content. Will keep watching😆
Noting hard just stick with Asus motherboards. You can't go wrong if you wants the best of the best go with ROG and Strix, for mainstream/entry TUF and Prime. For creators ProArt..
You like Asus eh
EVGA and Gigabyte are also fantastic manufacturers. I would steer clear from AsRock and MSI.
How times changed.
Asrock must be excluded permanently.
Nice ! I think they are quite expensive 😬 if someone is considering an upgrade to intel it's quite a bit more expensive than amd .. the mobo +cpu+ddr5+aio adds up
Dnt buy gigabyte z690. It has high mobo ten according to hardware unboxed.
@sabishiihito You are insane if you pay less than $280 for a motherboard this gen
You might as well pair it with a Gigabyte GP-P750GM PSU that you know will explode before your motherboards underpowered and undercooled VRM does
"Add in angry as Asrock Comment here"
Asrock sucks there are no fanboys,btw
Gigabyte is trying to take down Asrock as the worst, most distrusted manufacturer of performance pc parts, imo
😁😁😁👍👍👍
3 of each seems good
First!
Us Brian's have to stick togethet
MSI THE CARBON SERIES is always the best.
Good video. You are insane if you pay more than $250 for a motherboard.
People spend 2x that for XOC motherboards because they value the feature set; no one is breaking WRs on cheap mobos. You don't get to do decide what's too much to pay for something for others.
No choice really. The Gigabyte Z690 Aorus elite DDR 4 cost $250+
@@sabishiihito And XOC'ers represent what? 0.00001% of motherboard buyers?
I was giving my MY OPINION. Here's another one of my opinions: You are a.. GOOF!
@@juniorthomas6404 It was around $250 on launch day. It's currently $269. Are you really trying to be an internet comment section hero over $19?
@@JamesSmith-sw3nk your opinion is worthless outside of yourself, yet you stated it as if it were some universal fact. You're not the world's authority on what is valuable or not. How about "I personally don't see the point of motherboards above $250, but other people might and that's okay."
I only do AMD, clicked on this by mistake.
Did you accidentally write your post, too? Or just trolling?