😍😍😍Holbein is by far my favorite one And also in my tippity-top favorite paints of all time. My latest tube I bought of Marine Blue (Holbein) it is now labeled as a mix of Pb16 & PG7. But it looks exactly the same as my tube of marine blue labeled just PB16.
yayyy!! hi-five! 👋 ooohhh!! i think i saw that on jay’s channel! oh no! i completely forgot about that! im glad though that despite the new formulation it’s still the same hue, that’s good to know. thanks so much for the info! 😆🥰
I love Phthlao Turquoise. I think it is my favorite color. I have at least Holbein and Davinci. I have DS ultramarine turquoise too. I haven't decided which is my favorite yet, but I love them. I will have to keep testing them. Thanks for the fun video!
I was able to snag a tube of the Holbein that was the single pigment PB 16 after I saw the news on Jay's channel. It was such a beautiful version. You might still be able to find old tubes that are pure PB 16. I do love DaVinci but I must say in this and another comparison, this one doesn't stand up great to other brands.
NIIIIIICE!! i'm glad you were able to get it! it's definitely my first love and i couldn't live without it in my palette. i think my local shop still has some of holbein's single pigment version as it's a small shop and doesn't get high traffic. but given that i already have this 15ml tube, i'm probably just going to try out other brands when i finish ones i have. a loooong time from now though ;P
i think i have way too many pb16s right now but i'll keep that in mind. thanks! does it reach a black like holbein in this video? or which one is it most similar to?
I like your comparisons. I would have liked to see Daniel Smith's Phthalo Blue Turquoise (It is their PB16 color) added to the comparison, especially when you talk about the amount of pigment being able to reach a nearly black level of saturation.
thank you Eileen :) yes, PB16 being able to get to that black level of saturation is quite important to me. unfortunately i don't have Daniel Smith's PB16. sorry. but thank you for watching and commenting 🥰
Do you have Winsor and Newton’s Aqua Green? It is also a Phthalo turquoise hue but a bit more green. The pigment is not listed on the Colour Index so it has not pigment number, but it is a phthalo pigment.
i don't but i did recently swatch it (filmed a w&n dot chart swatching) and omg i loooove it! it's meant to be granulating too but from the tiny swatch i couldn't really tell. but it's definitely going on my list to buy for 2023 😁 do you have it?
@@PaintinHiding No, but it is at the top of my list of paints. I only have some Van Gogh paints. I’m still trying to find a way to get around Jackson’s high shipping rates.
I have W&N Aqua Green, it is fabulous! I really love it. I don’t have it with me or I would do a swatch compare amd report back ☺️It’s a really cool dark aqua
The color looked so pretty that I looked up the pigment number in the brand I usually use (DS), and I already have it. It's a phthalo blue green shade. Love your channel. Love the color comparisons you do!! Keep up the good work. You also have a very soothing voice. If you ever need help with getting rid of some pb16... I would definitely buy it! 😂❤
hi christine :) thank you so much for your kind words 🥰 please note, it’s not the same as phthalo blue green shade PB15:3. The ones shown in this video are PB16. The DS equivalent is called Phthalo blue turquoise.
Regarding the Holbein’s Phthalo Turquoise, head over to Jay’s channel and check his PB16 video; there is a discussion about the greeness of Hobein’s in the comments. Holbein has changed the formula recently to be PB16 + PG7. It might be that it has always been like that and it’s only now that they are changing the label.
i feel you isabella~ if you like this hue, maybe check out my other vids: phthalo turquoise alternatives, and PB15:4 comparison. you might find other ones you like that are more affordable to your region :)
I just recently fall in love with PB16 thanks to Roman Szmal - I just compared it to Lukas and they’re very similar, Aquarius may be just a tad more tinting, I should try with WN Aqua green too, but I don’t think it goes as black as original Holbein
schmincke?! lowtinting! 🤯 that’s so sad! i wouldn’t have expected that from schmincke. thank you for letting us know, that’s very helpful! ohh im glad to know DS is similar to W&N. i think i saw on jane blundell’s blog Maimeri blu with PB15:4 that looks so similar to PB16. might be one to try for the future 😁👍🏻
@@PaintinHiding maybe I should have said “lighter” and softer… not exactly LOW tinting, but lower tinting. It’s not as deep and strong as the DS, WN, and Holbein. But it definitely doesn’t feel cheap or bad, it’s very very nice and smooth.
@@flyinghaggertys9362 aaahhh so maybe kinda like the davinci one in this vid where it's still a good PB16, just maybe lower tinting than the other brands. gotcha~ thank you for the clarification 🥰
such nice paints ^_^ really love how the Holbein looks here, sooo deep. I have been using the W&N version, and also mixes of pthalo blue and green from White Nights and Rembrandt, which also work fine. (I'm not sure Ocean Blue from Roman Szmal counts as a similar hue as well XD) I also tend to use these instead of pthalo blue, as a primary. It makes nice and clean mixes!
W&N would definitely be my second choice from this batch. i like how it could go really dark. i'll need to look into ocean blue, i've heard of it but haven't paid much attention. and yesss i love that you've mixed your own version. PB16 can get quite expensive and i've definitely considered maybe mixing my own in the future with PB15 and PG7.
it's not what's wrong with you, it's youtube. their notifications aren't on top of their game these days. but yes, you need a good ramen snack too!!! XD😁🤣
One of my absolute favorite colors, I have W&N of this and it's just such a lovely shade and so transparent and pretty. Also mixes very well for purples and greens. Daniel Smith has a pthalo turquoise but it's actually a completely different color, a mix of PB15 and PG36 instead of just PB16 and while it is also pretty, it's much more green and not even in the same category of these. It's similar to W&N Aqua Green which is made from an un-numbered pigment and unique to that brand. DS also makes a color called pthalo blue turquoise from PB16 which is one of their newer colors and doesn't seem to be very popular, the shade is similar to these but doesn't seem as saturated in the masstone. This video has a comparison th-cam.com/video/Kz7L2Z8GK7c/w-d-xo.html
Oto Kano did a colossal color showdown for pthalo turquoise as well, if you want to compare more brands: Part 1 th-cam.com/video/hhAGNjAIP1w/w-d-xo.html Part 2 th-cam.com/video/MQ6B2qerLSw/w-d-xo.html
oh wow! here i thought PB16 isn't all that common but i'm so glad i'm discovering lots of people love it too! :D ahh yes, i think it for the longest time i remember DS not offering PB16 and a few weeks ago i checked and they apparently added it to their collection. i just wasn't aware lol. i wonder if DS PB16 isn't very popular just because DS lovers had been using the brand for a long time and managed without it maybe? anyway, thank you for the link here as well as below from Oto, i've seen oto's but i can always watch them again hehe ;P
Yeah I think DS was probably late in the game for this pigment and their version is really kind of underwhelming. Most of the people I'm aware of who catalog and review watercolors don't even acknowledge it, including Oto, Jane Blundell, and Kim Crick.
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😍😍😍Holbein is by far my favorite one And also in my tippity-top favorite paints of all time. My latest tube I bought of Marine Blue (Holbein) it is now labeled as a mix of Pb16 & PG7. But it looks exactly the same as my tube of marine blue labeled just PB16.
yayyy!! hi-five! 👋 ooohhh!! i think i saw that on jay’s channel! oh no! i completely forgot about that! im glad though that despite the new formulation it’s still the same hue, that’s good to know. thanks so much for the info! 😆🥰
@@PaintinHiding I love both of your channels!
@@flyinghaggertys9362 Oh man another channel who obsesses over paint colors, yay :)
I love Phthlao Turquoise. I think it is my favorite color. I have at least Holbein and Davinci. I have DS ultramarine turquoise too. I haven't decided which is my favorite yet, but I love them. I will have to keep testing them. Thanks for the fun video!
yay! i'm so glad you love it too! ohh, that's very interesting. how does the DS ultramarine turquoise compare? is it similar, more blue or green?
I adore all of the PB16’s I’ve seen! The Holbein and DaVinci stand out for me.
i'm glad we're similar in that regard. :D thank you for watching and commenting🥰
I was able to snag a tube of the Holbein that was the single pigment PB 16 after I saw the news on Jay's channel. It was such a beautiful version. You might still be able to find old tubes that are pure PB 16. I do love DaVinci but I must say in this and another comparison, this one doesn't stand up great to other brands.
NIIIIIICE!! i'm glad you were able to get it! it's definitely my first love and i couldn't live without it in my palette. i think my local shop still has some of holbein's single pigment version as it's a small shop and doesn't get high traffic. but given that i already have this 15ml tube, i'm probably just going to try out other brands when i finish ones i have. a loooong time from now though ;P
If you like Pb 16, you should definitely try Schmincke Helio Turquoise. Its amazing. ❤
i think i have way too many pb16s right now but i'll keep that in mind. thanks! does it reach a black like holbein in this video? or which one is it most similar to?
I live Helio Turquoise too 😅
I like your comparisons. I would have liked to see Daniel Smith's Phthalo Blue Turquoise (It is their PB16 color) added to the comparison, especially when you talk about the amount of pigment being able to reach a nearly black level of saturation.
thank you Eileen :) yes, PB16 being able to get to that black level of saturation is quite important to me. unfortunately i don't have Daniel Smith's PB16. sorry. but thank you for watching and commenting 🥰
I guess DS doesn't make a PB16. I just checked 😢
Do you have Winsor and Newton’s Aqua Green? It is also a Phthalo turquoise hue but a bit more green. The pigment is not listed on the Colour Index so it has not pigment number, but it is a phthalo pigment.
i don't but i did recently swatch it (filmed a w&n dot chart swatching) and omg i loooove it! it's meant to be granulating too but from the tiny swatch i couldn't really tell. but it's definitely going on my list to buy for 2023 😁 do you have it?
@@PaintinHiding No, but it is at the top of my list of paints. I only have some Van Gogh paints. I’m still trying to find a way to get around Jackson’s high shipping rates.
@@awatercolourist do you have instagram?
@@PaintinHiding Oh Yes! Also awatercolourist. No images, though. I want to upload but I am half lazy, half not confident.
I have W&N Aqua Green, it is fabulous! I really love it. I don’t have it with me or I would do a swatch compare amd report back ☺️It’s a really cool dark aqua
The color looked so pretty that I looked up the pigment number in the brand I usually use (DS), and I already have it. It's a phthalo blue green shade.
Love your channel. Love the color comparisons you do!! Keep up the good work. You also have a very soothing voice.
If you ever need help with getting rid of some pb16... I would definitely buy it! 😂❤
hi christine :) thank you so much for your kind words 🥰 please note, it’s not the same as phthalo blue green shade PB15:3. The ones shown in this video are PB16. The DS equivalent is called Phthalo blue turquoise.
@Paint in Hiding thank you. I'm sorry that was my mistake
Regarding the Holbein’s Phthalo Turquoise, head over to Jay’s channel and check his PB16 video; there is a discussion about the greeness of Hobein’s in the comments. Holbein has changed the formula recently to be PB16 + PG7. It might be that it has always been like that and it’s only now that they are changing the label.
yeah, i say jay's vid, didn't read the comments section though so i'll definitely have to check that out later. thanks for letting me know! :D
Kinda wish I hadn’t watched this - I NEED that gorgeous transparency of the WN but WN is three times the process of everything else here in Australia…
i feel you isabella~ if you like this hue, maybe check out my other vids: phthalo turquoise alternatives, and PB15:4 comparison. you might find other ones you like that are more affordable to your region :)
I just recently fall in love with PB16 thanks to Roman Szmal - I just compared it to Lukas and they’re very similar, Aquarius may be just a tad more tinting, I should try with WN Aqua green too, but I don’t think it goes as black as original Holbein
yeah, i recently got RS's PB16 and it's not quite as pigmented as holbein or w&n. aqua green is more green than PB16 and it does get pretty black.
I also have Schmincke, Daniel smith, and have tried W&N. Schmincke is low tinting, amd Daniel Skith is very much similar to WN.
schmincke?! lowtinting! 🤯 that’s so sad! i wouldn’t have expected that from schmincke. thank you for letting us know, that’s very helpful! ohh im glad to know DS is similar to W&N. i think i saw on jane blundell’s blog Maimeri blu with PB15:4 that looks so similar to PB16. might be one to try for the future 😁👍🏻
@@PaintinHiding maybe I should have said “lighter” and softer… not exactly LOW tinting, but lower tinting. It’s not as deep and strong as the DS, WN, and Holbein. But it definitely doesn’t feel cheap or bad, it’s very very nice and smooth.
@@flyinghaggertys9362 aaahhh so maybe kinda like the davinci one in this vid where it's still a good PB16, just maybe lower tinting than the other brands. gotcha~ thank you for the clarification 🥰
W&N is my fav based on this video.
i'm glad you have a fave from this vid! apart from holbein, i'd go with W&N as well :D tthank you for watching and subscribing!
such nice paints ^_^ really love how the Holbein looks here, sooo deep. I have been using the W&N version, and also mixes of pthalo blue and green from White Nights and Rembrandt, which also work fine. (I'm not sure Ocean Blue from Roman Szmal counts as a similar hue as well XD) I also tend to use these instead of pthalo blue, as a primary. It makes nice and clean mixes!
W&N would definitely be my second choice from this batch. i like how it could go really dark. i'll need to look into ocean blue, i've heard of it but haven't paid much attention. and yesss i love that you've mixed your own version. PB16 can get quite expensive and i've definitely considered maybe mixing my own in the future with PB15 and PG7.
I missed another video😢. Whats wrong with me? Maybe I need a good ramen snack 😂😂
it's not what's wrong with you, it's youtube. their notifications aren't on top of their game these days. but yes, you need a good ramen snack too!!! XD😁🤣
@@PaintinHiding 😂
One of my absolute favorite colors, I have W&N of this and it's just such a lovely shade and so transparent and pretty. Also mixes very well for purples and greens. Daniel Smith has a pthalo turquoise but it's actually a completely different color, a mix of PB15 and PG36 instead of just PB16 and while it is also pretty, it's much more green and not even in the same category of these. It's similar to W&N Aqua Green which is made from an un-numbered pigment and unique to that brand.
DS also makes a color called pthalo blue turquoise from PB16 which is one of their newer colors and doesn't seem to be very popular, the shade is similar to these but doesn't seem as saturated in the masstone. This video has a comparison th-cam.com/video/Kz7L2Z8GK7c/w-d-xo.html
Oto Kano did a colossal color showdown for pthalo turquoise as well, if you want to compare more brands: Part 1 th-cam.com/video/hhAGNjAIP1w/w-d-xo.html
Part 2 th-cam.com/video/MQ6B2qerLSw/w-d-xo.html
oh wow! here i thought PB16 isn't all that common but i'm so glad i'm discovering lots of people love it too! :D ahh yes, i think it for the longest time i remember DS not offering PB16 and a few weeks ago i checked and they apparently added it to their collection. i just wasn't aware lol. i wonder if DS PB16 isn't very popular just because DS lovers had been using the brand for a long time and managed without it maybe? anyway, thank you for the link here as well as below from Oto, i've seen oto's but i can always watch them again hehe ;P
Yeah I think DS was probably late in the game for this pigment and their version is really kind of underwhelming. Most of the people I'm aware of who catalog and review watercolors don't even acknowledge it, including Oto, Jane Blundell, and Kim Crick.
@@petiteflower5259 well, i wonder if it's because they started their blogs quite early on and maybe DS hadn't released it then.
I have both Holbein and WN. I won’t buy Lukas because it’s a mor opaque wc all around. Great color for sea scapes
yeah, lukas is beautiful but feels less pigmented