Still to this day i have no idea how you manage to make everything you touch sound massive and filthy! This pedal has so much backlash, but this video proves that it CAN give you some clean grit and power💪🏻 Absolute shout!
Valvestate 100 was one of my first stack amps, the first in fact, miss the days of cranking it in my mums shed, amazing sound and no need for a distortion pedal of any sort.
I’ve actually been looking for a fuzz that doesn’t have so much noise in the higher frequencies and this is exactly the sound I had in my head. Sludgy madness.
Finally useful and interesting video with HM2! Usually hm2 clips shows how to use it “all the knobs dimed” and it’s boring! I’m using hm2 for many years in my band and I’m trying out the different ways to set up the amps and the pedal all the time. Thank you for the video.
I've been wanting to do this forever. it doesn't sound as fat when you use a distortion pedal, just which fuzz is the question that keeps me scrolling reverb at night lol.
I could definitely see layering this kind of sound into a pair of more focused doubles as a supplemental sound. It could also be used for certain sections that require a ton of dirt.
my first amp was a valvestate 8080 combo, didn't realise how good it was until i bought a jcm900. The valvestate cabs just weren't that great. Marshall should do a reissue of the 8100. The jmp-1 was cool too.
I remember when first herd meshuggah at the trocadero in Philadelphia P.A with strapping young lad in 1997 no one new who they was chaos phere was just coming out now they are the shape tone of metal back in the late 90s that poly rythm wasnt popular but I loved it now every jock got that style lol ..
Great video John. You put a lot more effort to get usable sounds from the HM-2W than Ola did. Some of these tones are the tightest sounding I've heard from an HM-2 on any EQ settings. The palm mute chugs at 7.46 on the Marshall and 13.09 on the 5150, great for raw heavy death / thrash metal sounds other than the usual Swedish all dials maxed sound. \m/
Great video, I don't agree with some of the comments about playing the Swedish chainsaw sound, there's plenty of videos that have already got this covered. Nice to see someone trying it out on other applications. I'm in a similar position, I have a riff in mind that I really want to try the HM2 on but I can't get quite the right blend yet. I'm running a 5150 mk3 with the HM2 clone as a boost, I'm still tweaking but your video gave me some good ideas. My HM2 boutique clone has a clean blean which the HM2 w doesn't (and probably should) have so that's a nice addition. Would be interested to hear what the HM2 sounds like in the FX loop out of curiousity. Thanks for the content!
I might be wrong, but since I am from the darkest of the dark north I might also be right: didn't those darkest of dark bands circumvent the pre-amp stage by running the pedal straight into the effects loop? Edit: I have to modify this. The HM-2 with a clean amp sound, and the MT-2 through the effects loop
Pre-ordered mine today and have been curious to see what your take is on it. I'm from the OG group of chainsaw guitarists, but am intrigued when it comes to more modern uses.
John Browne laying down the sickest fucking riff @2:25 in, with that Hetfield down-picking finesse mastered! who cares if this rig squeals when not playing, that's the sign of a beast needing to be released from it's shackles. you make that pedal and VS 8100 render us all lifeless with tone and hook combo. Damn, New School Brownish Death Metal needs to be a real thing.
The one word to describe the HM-2 is balls!!!! It has so much girth on the low ends that it's on the border of farting but it jabs the notes out at your neck when you drank it!!!! I like the way it sounds when used as a preamp tho!!!! With the right digital can it can be a raw beast !
Eh, it’s too farty and fuzzy to function as a modern metal boost. It certainly is disgusting though. To paraphrase something Mick Thomson of Slipknot once said, “I don’t like pretty effects… sometimes you just gotta fuck up your tone.” HM-2 through that H&K sounded crushing!
Damn.. Meshuggah did make these heads sound amazing back in the day. It sounds really goos here too, without the hm2 lol. I owned one and haaaateddd it. I also wasnt very good at dialing in my amps back then though
Hey John, thanks for the continued inspiration - when you mentioned the amp being up for sale (soon to be withdrawn with the change of heart)...do you have a reverb page or ebay shop or anything of that nature ? Just curious so I could note it down and occasionally peruse it - cheers
You got a bunch of cool sounds out of that. I do like modern tones but not so much what sounds to me like a slight metallic harshness they usually have. And this had none of that. Love your playing though; your riffs are always sick no matter the tonal flavour.
I watched an Ola review he did on the Metal Zone and he ran it in the effects loop as a pre amp ....wonder if that pedal would respond better that way also? Totally agree the amp gain alone sounds really good! COME ON MARSHALL!!
@@JohnBrownemonuments I come from the darkest of the dark north and I can confirm that that is how older metal musicians say it was done. And I don't see how Boss would know anything about that. It's not like they where endorsing Norwegian black metal bands
That riffage at the beginning was amazing. Do you just come up with this stuff on the spot or do you pick random bits from songs you’ve made before and chain them together?
Boss HM2... Just how I like my women. Hella nasty ❤ But yeah, I wish Marshall would bring back the Valvestate and model the sound after the 8100 with a simplistic look and build
Affordable high gain metal all tube amp question. Laney LH series or Marshall Dsl. Ironhearts still not available. Also any other recommendations. Thanks.
If LH means Laney Lionheart, you would not want to do that. It's a cool amp for classic rock, almost fuzzy, very oldschool. Nothing to do with high gain and metal.
Poor Adam haha I know that shit is loud as hell Need that CCC 2x12. Was that one you used for RiffHard IR’s? Pedal sounds great btw! Fuzzy, but could definitely have some cool applications. That Marshall Valvestate though!! 👌🔥
Wanna get two 8100's down the line and feed them with an A/B/Y pedal, tune them bright / dark and mic them individually. Sounds like a recipe for brutality.
I used to have a 8080. I had to give up playing guitar for a few years and sold it all. Later on when I was able to get back into guitar I bought a Marshall Valvestate AVT 20Watt and man that thing sucked, lol!
@@JohnBrownemonuments Those three bands (and others) often had bad sound back in those days, similar to Cannibal Corpse who played terrible Crate amps at live shows and were consequently blown away by their opening acts (like Brutal Truth, for example), who often played real amps. Depends upon the instance/location with any of these bands. Considering that Death never played a (convenient) show in Florida, I never rated Death's rhythm guitar sound on recordings; just a good guitarist and songwriter.
Please research the history of how this is used. I didnt see one instance of diming everything and tremolo picking out a nasty swedish death metal riff. Is this useful for modern metal? Absolutely, if you do anything related to death metal.
i'm sorry but the HM 2 sounds like ass , i can understand the nostaligic side of the thing ,but dude let's be honest it's really sounds like ass ! i really don't like this pedal XD
Thanks for watching! Special thanks to Boss for asking me to reintroduce this pedal for their channel also.
Still to this day i have no idea how you manage to make everything you touch sound massive and filthy! This pedal has so much backlash, but this video proves that it CAN give you some clean grit and power💪🏻 Absolute shout!
Hi, I’m from Belgium!
I just bought got the “Triple Box Metal” pedal from DFZ! Please do a comparison video! 🙏
Thanks, John! That 5150 + HM-2W palm mute combo is huge!
John, I say with utmost love, Please fix your posture. 🤟🏻
@@Anshul1614 unfixable, I have Ankylosing spondylitis
"You have to write specifically for the HM2". This is the most accurate and insightful comment about that pedal.
Agreed!
💯
Valvestate 100 was one of my first stack amps, the first in fact, miss the days of cranking it in my mums shed, amazing sound and no need for a distortion pedal of any sort.
I have the digital version of this amp and it sounds outstanding.
Actually just before watching this video was playing my VK100 combo doing an A/B to my Marshall DSL 100HR....DSL kills...VK is capable
I ment the valvestate head from audiority.
I’ve actually been looking for a fuzz that doesn’t have so much noise in the higher frequencies and this is exactly the sound I had in my head. Sludgy madness.
I'm definitely getting one, gotta do some Bloodbath and Entombed covers!
My band uses HM2s into Peavey 6505 as our main guitar tone and it sounds insane. Check out Human Hell if you wanna hear it
You make it sound like an ampsim :/ Sounds like a line6 tracked demo.
@@noname-ng6sj possibly the only negative thing I’ve heard about our tone, but thank you for taking the time
@@tomcarter5110 Don't listen to that idiot troll, it sounds sick as fuck! Perfect use of the HM-2, really crushing tone.
Sounds sick 🔥
Added to my playlist
Honestly, I usually can't fucking stand deathcore but this is pretty solid
Idk but I like this dudes riffs.
Pre-ordered the hm2w the other day. Love the VS100. First half stack I ever owned.
the sound on Puretone was freaking AMAZING👍👍👍
The Puretone's volume pot is located right after the first tube stage, that's why it's so loud.
John doesn't seem at all like the guitarist to play this pedal.
its a pedal for posers. not heavy at all.
@@FiendTheatre are you talking about the Tube Screamer?
I love watching you riff out, sick style!
Finally useful and interesting video with HM2! Usually hm2 clips shows how to use it “all the knobs dimed” and it’s boring!
I’m using hm2 for many years in my band and I’m trying out the different ways to set up the amps and the pedal all the time. Thank you for the video.
Funny you mention the HM-2 is 'almost like a more controlled fuzz', because it was actually modelled on a fuzz pedal
That pedal into the Puretone is one of the best guitar sounds i've ever heard
As a texture tool for breakdowns it might work xd…
Like how Knocked Loose use a fuzz in a slower passage??
I've been wanting to do this forever. it doesn't sound as fat when you use a distortion pedal, just which fuzz is the question that keeps me scrolling reverb at night lol.
16:16 Line of the video "Let's turn the pedal off and just get a good sound."
Bro you can make ANYTHING sound god tier
Waza Hm2 + Marshall 8100 + John Browne= 😁
the sounds are sooooo fricking sick, I love it
it sounds so different and unique, love it
I could definitely see layering this kind of sound into a pair of more focused doubles as a supplemental sound. It could also be used for certain sections that require a ton of dirt.
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my first amp was a valvestate 8080 combo, didn't realise how good it was until i bought a jcm900. The valvestate cabs just weren't that great. Marshall should do a reissue of the 8100. The jmp-1 was cool too.
I remember when first herd meshuggah at the trocadero in Philadelphia P.A with strapping young lad in 1997 no one new who they was chaos phere was just coming out now they are the shape tone of metal back in the late 90s that poly rythm wasnt popular but I loved it now every jock got that style lol ..
Thanks for the video, your always making the best sounds out of any gear 🤘🏽
Great video John. You put a lot more effort to get usable sounds from the HM-2W than Ola did. Some of these tones are the tightest sounding I've heard from an HM-2 on any EQ settings. The palm mute chugs at 7.46 on the Marshall and 13.09 on the 5150, great for raw heavy death / thrash metal sounds other than the usual Swedish all dials maxed sound. \m/
Great video, I don't agree with some of the comments about playing the Swedish chainsaw sound, there's plenty of videos that have already got this covered. Nice to see someone trying it out on other applications. I'm in a similar position, I have a riff in mind that I really want to try the HM2 on but I can't get quite the right blend yet. I'm running a 5150 mk3 with the HM2 clone as a boost, I'm still tweaking but your video gave me some good ideas. My HM2 boutique clone has a clean blean which the HM2 w doesn't (and probably should) have so that's a nice addition. Would be interested to hear what the HM2 sounds like in the FX loop out of curiousity. Thanks for the content!
I might be wrong, but since I am from the darkest of the dark north I might also be right: didn't those darkest of dark bands circumvent the pre-amp stage by running the pedal straight into the effects loop?
Edit:
I have to modify this. The HM-2 with a clean amp sound, and the MT-2 through the effects loop
Oh boy, what a combo. Clicked as fast as one could
I’m buying to use a fuzz making sludge metal.
Pre-ordered mine today and have been curious to see what your take is on it. I'm from the OG group of chainsaw guitarists, but am intrigued when it comes to more modern uses.
Got kicked out of my own band around '87 for chainsawing my new HM2.
John Browne laying down the sickest fucking riff @2:25 in, with that Hetfield down-picking finesse mastered! who cares if this rig squeals when not playing, that's the sign of a beast needing to be released from it's shackles. you make that pedal and VS 8100 render us all lifeless with tone and hook combo. Damn, New School Brownish Death Metal needs to be a real thing.
I still miss Cliff Burton 😟
@@maschoff69 agreed, every damn day =(
The one word to describe the HM-2 is balls!!!! It has so much girth on the low ends that it's on the border of farting but it jabs the notes out at your neck when you drank it!!!! I like the way it sounds when used as a preamp tho!!!! With the right digital can it can be a raw beast !
So good to see you do TH-cam again.
Would it be possible to get the old Laboga out, and give it some love?
Cheers mate!
I like the sound.
Your voice was djenting with that gate my man
the Puretone HM2 combo would be insane on Bass guitar TRY IT BECAUSE I WON´t Buy Both ^^
I stand by this
Eh, it’s too farty and fuzzy to function as a modern metal boost. It certainly is disgusting though. To paraphrase something Mick Thomson of Slipknot once said, “I don’t like pretty effects… sometimes you just gotta fuck up your tone.” HM-2 through that H&K sounded crushing!
It sound So MUCH angrier with the H&K head!
I personally love it more!
Ferocious riffing holy fack ! That poor Duvell lol 🤘
Thank you for the review John 🙏 I am interested to know your string gauges and manufacturer.
Damn.. Meshuggah did make these heads sound amazing back in the day. It sounds really goos here too, without the hm2 lol. I owned one and haaaateddd it. I also wasnt very good at dialing in my amps back then though
in other words; "will it chug?" Great video man, lovin' the FILTH :D
My body is ready
Yeah!!!
Git'chyer... HĀCHE.M. TWO on, brother!!!
I wanna try one of these into an orange, or a matamp green cranked way way up.
Awesome 👊
Hey John, thanks for the continued inspiration - when you mentioned the amp being up for sale (soon to be withdrawn with the change of heart)...do you have a reverb page or ebay shop or anything of that nature ? Just curious so I could note it down and occasionally peruse it - cheers
I've read of people using this on the effects loop in that era, bypassing the Preamp entirely. It would be interesting to hear.
You got a bunch of cool sounds out of that. I do like modern tones but not so much what sounds to me like a slight metallic harshness they usually have. And this had none of that. Love your playing though; your riffs are always sick no matter the tonal flavour.
Tamming the untammed!
What tuning is it that you use in your videos? I'd like to give it a try. The riffs are hard!
DADGAD and dropped tunings of the same type....CGCFGC, etc.
his face @ 1:53 was identical to mine
Hi, I’m from Belgium!
I just bought got the “Triple Box Metal” pedal from DFZ! Please do a comparison video! 🙏
Does Belgium have a big metal scene?
How low are your pickups?
If you could lower them they would clean even more and still have a ton of gain to spare.
I’d rather just here you riff out with a tube screamer in front of that Marshall. Glad to see ya back!!
Tone is really in the killers mind and hands.
JB Your back. !!!!!!
I watched an Ola review he did on the Metal Zone and he ran it in the effects loop as a pre amp ....wonder if that pedal would respond better that way also?
Totally agree the amp gain alone sounds really good!
COME ON MARSHALL!!
Spoke to boss about this today and they said that’s not a thing… however I guess I could try 🤷♂️
@@JohnBrownemonuments I come from the darkest of the dark north and I can confirm that that is how older metal musicians say it was done. And I don't see how Boss would know anything about that. It's not like they where endorsing Norwegian black metal bands
That riffage at the beginning was amazing. Do you just come up with this stuff on the spot or do you pick random bits from songs you’ve made before and chain them together?
Thanks, it’s a Mixture of both! Everyone has their licks
Think I read that Dino Cazares used a modded VS in the early days
Solo album plz 🤘
I dont give shit about the amp and pedal, I'm here for your awesome playing & riffs
whats your guitar tuning?
Boss HM2... Just how I like my women.
Hella nasty ❤
But yeah, I wish Marshall would bring back the Valvestate and model the sound after the 8100 with a simplistic look and build
Affordable high gain metal all tube amp question. Laney LH series or Marshall Dsl. Ironhearts still not available. Also any other recommendations. Thanks.
If LH means Laney Lionheart, you would not want to do that. It's a cool amp for classic rock, almost fuzzy, very oldschool. Nothing to do with high gain and metal.
@@gaborkun7290 No the LH series is a different series. I think Opeth used those in some of their recordings? Not sure about that.
fu&@!!! Browne’ style just make you want to pick up your guitar and jam…best gear demos ever 🙌🤘
DImed you are supposed to play something crude like Asphyx through it
Killer riffage
Poor Adam haha I know that shit is loud as hell
Need that CCC 2x12. Was that one you used for RiffHard IR’s?
Pedal sounds great btw! Fuzzy, but could definitely have some cool applications. That Marshall Valvestate though!! 👌🔥
Yes this is used for the RH IR’s
distortion as a boost is so much fun because you can get some seriously nasty tones.
what happened to you neck mate? you've got batman vibes
Waza JB!
HM-2 = Nails =
Nissssssssssssssssssce 🍻
didusayy Buust?!!
Whats the guitar tune
Filthy. Love it!
What Marshall head is?
Marshall Valvestate 8100
@@JohnBrownemonuments Which on its own is a monster of a head for classic death metal tones!
ohhhh this is about the haych m 2, damn. wrong pedal >
Its like a nostalgia metal pedal.
GATECREEPER, mate.
Wanna get two 8100's down the line and feed them with an A/B/Y pedal, tune them bright / dark and mic them individually. Sounds like a recipe for brutality.
The new beautiful disgusting tone
I can't believe I sold my 8100....
I used to have a 8080. I had to give up playing guitar for a few years and sold it all. Later on when I was able to get back into guitar I bought a Marshall Valvestate AVT 20Watt and man that thing sucked, lol!
As soon as i've read the title ... well the answer is obviously no. 20 mins later i was right.
just max all the knobs...
Eh. Not for me
it's incredible... hm2 have an absolute shitty sound with every amps and every settings 😆 some times you can touch the "dismember" sound settings
the valvestate has to be one of the worst Marshalls I've tried. Not worth having around when you already have good tube amps.
It must have been a later valvestate because the 8100 rules. Meshuggah, Death, At the Gates, In Flames and many others thought so too!
@@JohnBrownemonuments Those three bands (and others) often had bad sound back in those days, similar to Cannibal Corpse who played terrible Crate amps at live shows and were consequently blown away by their opening acts (like Brutal Truth, for example), who often played real amps. Depends upon the instance/location with any of these bands. Considering that Death never played a (convenient) show in Florida, I never rated Death's rhythm guitar sound on recordings; just a good guitarist and songwriter.
To each their own
Why cant you turn your head?
Ankylosing Spondylitis
@@JohnBrownemonuments sorry to hear bud
Please research the history of how this is used. I didnt see one instance of diming everything and tremolo picking out a nasty swedish death metal riff. Is this useful for modern metal? Absolutely, if you do anything related to death metal.
We’ve already know it excels at that sound though…
Modern metal is shit
Modern metal sucks anyway
Average shred sped
Okay, these were officially the worst sounds I've heard this year. Kinda like a 120w poweramp driven into a fuzz-pedal, minus the smoke.
i'm sorry but the HM 2 sounds like ass , i can understand the nostaligic side of the thing ,but dude let's be honest it's really sounds like ass ! i really don't like this pedal XD
ok?
Seriously, you are making it sound like shit.... which is actually quite difficult :D This video does not represent very well how the pedal performs.