I've been watching this channel for years now, and I have recently been really appreciating your push for people in metal and rock to use different speakers.
My dear friend. Where have you been??? 3 months it has been. Please let us know if you are ok? Still hoping for more content. Hope you and the family are doing well. Thanks.
Day and night difference between the two. The original almost sounds like playing through a wah pedal that's rocked halfway forward, ie pronounced mids. Kind of nasal, not necessarily a bad thing if that's what you're going for. But the Waza sounds more natural and clear, I wonder if the original maybe has a problem, like a busted capacitor. The Waza's custom tone also sounds appreciably different from its default tone, and is the best of the 3 imho.
The problem is the W2 is different enough, to be a different pedal(and not a very unique one). If you want the unique HM2 tones, I expect you'll be very disappointed.
I much prefer the tone of the original. This has made me happy that the second hand market will be rebalanced as the prices have gotten stupid. This was a great comparison, but has just convinced me to get an original MIJ again if I want this sound in the future.
The (original) Boss HM-2 pedal was the first pedal I ever had. I picked it up second hand while I was early on in college so had to have been 1990. At the time I was playing it through a Fender Super 60 (nice little combo amp). I was never terribly impressed with the pedal, but it got the job done for cheap. The funny thing is, I don't know what happened to that pedal, I don't remember ever selling it or trading it.
Discovered your channel by accident and was fascinated by some older videos so I subscribed and am now browsing your back catalogue. I wonder if you'd be willing to do an episode on Roy Buchanan? TIA!
@@DAJUggaN4uT how is that even remotely significant? who gives a fuck where the reviewer is from? if you really felt like you had to point that out, i'd find something to do if in your stead..
Glad to see you're back - I've missed you. Interesting to hear the differences with your pedal and setup compared to other videos I've seen; just shows how different gear changes the sound. The Waza is bound to be clearer, louder, etc. as there'd be no point creating something not as good, but also an original is over 30 years old and bound to have some components getting worn. I have 5 HM-2s and also many clones that are more defined and sound better, but I'll always keep the originals.
Yep I think the hm2w is just a cleaner signal path than the original. So you lose some freqs with the original BUT the ratty high treble remains which makes that sound.
Finally Man! Next time just do a short saying for example "I'm alive, So FY All hahaaa!", we'll worry less;) Nice to see You back! Oh! And can't wait for NIN!
Fuck yeah dude! Was wondering what you were up to man, glad your uploading again! Sounds badass, all ive got is one of those plastic copies of this to do my best entombed impression.
tedweber.com/graywolf12f/ weber makes also good celestion copies the gray wolve sound like a mix the g12h30watt with the good old english v30 it has the low and Low mid from g12h and uppermid bite of the old englsh v30
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I’m glad you mentioned that. If you would consider doing that over again I and the 6 other Orgy fans out there would greatly appreciate it. I went down an Amir Derahk rabbit hole about a year and a half ago. If I can help steer you in the right direction he went into detail on The Dave Friedman Tone Talk episode he was on. That episode lead to several podcasts, interviews, and old magazines articles I pulled up on google. Off the top of my head he said that the ‘Orgy Sound’ was a series of vintage and modern gear from that time. Amir and Ryan both favor Marshall tones and still do today because they use Friedman amps. I’ve seen Amir use Orange too. Keep in mind - he played Synth Guitar and Ryan played Electric guitar. The Roland Hex pickup is crucial if you are chasing Amir’s guitar. Both Players pushed each of there individual rigs with the Hyper Fuzz that was the secret sauce. In those days Ryan was playing Ibanez 7 strings and Amir played Jackson’s, Parker’s, Ibanez and a few others. One thing I noticed about his sound which I know is prevalent in the ‘Julien-K’ camp is that he uses a P-90. I have a feeling P-90s made an appearance on Candyass and Vapor Transmission. His goal was to take the Judas Priest ‘Turbo’ tone and make it as gross and off putting as can be. Ryan also used a lot of Tremolo effect on that album. Hopefully that was helpful, it’s all I can remember off the top of my dome. I hope one day you revisit that tone because it’s so unique and greatly forgotten. I hope that album sees a resurgence again. Thanks dude.
Welcome back, dude! I'm not used to seeing one without all the paint scratched away and such. We just did an HM-2 circuit explained video a bit ago. I'm curious to know what, on the circuit level, got changed up.
If it's the same value components I suspect the hm2w is just a cleaner signal path than the original. Less signal degradation. So you may lose some freqs with the original BUT the ratty mid high treble remains which makes that sound. But on the waza all freqs are hitting so you get that cleaner top end and more perceived volume. Better tolerance on dozens of components and less capacitance can really clean things up and stop choking freqs.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I'm curious to know what they did about the "cross-over" distortion portion that was traditionally Germanium Diodes. With those being slim-pickings and the preference to go SMD, I'm guessing (and only a guess), they either used Schottky diodes instead, or they removed the cross-over distortion all together. From what I hearing, I am guessing the former, instead of the latter. Yeah, I can nerd out of that circuit.
I actually just thought the same thing and manually searched for the channel since I hadn’t seen anything in my subs for so long. I guess I didn’t scroll back far enough into yesterday. Good to see a new video regardless.
8:31 is actually a great tone; I personally have a 1989 Taiwan version and I love it for more than just the dimed sound. Yeah it's cool, but whoda thunked that it would be a diverse pedal???
@@CIRCLEOFTONE hell no try iit it tights it up and adds more impact and yes with a super clean amp im running it thru a 1979fender super tween reverb i wish i could send you the tracks
Great to have you back! The TH-cam guitar based content had started to get mighty dull - to the point where Stevie T was recommended by the algorithm. Yikes 😬
I appreciate that you did this video. Mainly because you reminded me of why I loved Peavey Sheffield’s. Now I need to go on the hunt for a 4x12 Sheffield cab. Also I enjoy your content. Especially the Dismember, Entombed, and Danzig videos.
I am beyond happy you came back strong. I usually comment where you been if it has been awhile. But I knew you were focusing on the family, being a new dad. And focusing on your health. How is Keto working fir ya? Cause you do look more tone, pun intended, and maybe even lifting weights? Glad to see you are doing well. Did you move into a house or a apartment that you can crank a 4×12 van haha. Cheers!
Keto was great but I have been paleoish for a month. I'm down from 250 when I did that vid to 224. I've only been back on the weights for a few weeks as I jacked up my arm. I'm working around it. Tennis elbow. I'm in an apartment right now with the fam.
So happy your back at it! How's the baby liking the electric? Mine loves the acoustic, but doesn't like any distorted electric (yet), makes him cry haha. I miss my HM2, this is a must buy for me to relive my youth.
I got kicked out of my own band, around '87 for doing exactly that. I bought one, my friend in a different band bought one and then gave me his, because it was useless. I still have mine; traded the other one.
You should try the Beringer version in a shootout. I had the original HM pedal installed in my solid state Crate stack back in '99. Sounded bitchn'. I love this pedal .
Oh man, the Peavey MS412 with Sheffield 1290s is such a hefty cab and yes, the speakers are very dark with really spiky highs. I had one for a while but I ditched it for a 1960a loaded with T75s. I find the T75s with a Peavey VTM and a HM2 are the perfect recipe for a chainsaw. Concerning the sound difference, was the original HM2 fully powered? To me it sounded like it was slightly underpowered to my ears (dying battery?). They were from the era of 12v shunted to 9v craziness that Boss thought was cool and required a special power supply for it to function properly. Only other options were battery or the pedal had to be daisy chained to get the full power. Either way, I am stoked to get mine whenever it decides to show up.
Nah I know what you mean power wise. It wasn't that starved aspect. I was using a battery clip converter. Good shout on the 75's. My fav are the old English ones with the grills/vents on the magnet.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I have no idea what type I have. The cab is definitely older though. I opened it up to fix the wiring and there was rust and cobwebs galore. My best guess is that it is from the late 90's or early 2000's. Pretty sure it was a JCM900 cab. Unfortunately 40% of the vinyl is gone, the grill cloth is torn all over and all the Marshall badges are missing. I had to replace the handles and jack plate just to get it working. Only cost me $100 and a fuzz pedal though, so I feel like I beat the system.
possible but for me it doesn't really have that buzzsaw guitar tone in it, which to me is the whole point of the hm2. the waza is a good pedal fs but idrk what the point is if it doesn't do the thing thst made it famous
flexin' on tha kemper that's mostly being used for it's generic ass sneapish/djenty profiles there mate. Also, do the Sheffield speakers really had a reputation like the G12T-75 among the modern metal crowd?
Regarding the tones...I think I prefer the original here, but who's to say, through my cellphone. Still getting a Waza. I almost think what I hear as more highs in the original is simply a higher noise floor, which the new one has less. So that cleaner sound may be just that.
That is a nasty little pedal. I think it would reroute the neurons of your mind after a few hours of that. I will have to check it out myself sometime. But I apologize for being off subject and I'm sure you get asked this all the time, but are you a fan of Kings X, or at least familiar enough with their past albums, to maybe cover the subject of Ty Tabor's signature sound and the unique circuitry that is utilized in his Strats? It's not easy to find all the information from what I hear, but some of the details have been slowly leaked out over the years.
HM2 to me is swedish death metal, i do not want it cleaning up, thats the whole point, for other styles, yes it probably is better but that is not what i have the HM2 for. i do like the video though. Cheers
@@CIRCLEOFTONE agreed, too many bands just rehashing the same stuff over and over, this is the problem as you get older, i am 44 (old school death metal fan, US and Sweden/Stockholm) and have heard alot of it before but for younger metal fans its great. i just love playing the HM2 for my own enjoyment. i have a Japan 1984 and a Taiwan (not sure of its year) and there is a slight difference in those two. that sound just hits the spot for me. Also i do like other styles and genres and am interested in all sounds and production styles. keep up the great work, i always enjoy your videos. Cheers
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Just wanted to riff on Marlowes " Is this the face that launched a thousand ships?". I love this vid. Got a flashback to the mid 90s and teenage me listening to the metal hour on local radio Studio Brussel... Good memories, thank you for making me revisit them. I hope I can source a Waza HM2, but I fear a lot of them will already be spoken for.
China made a hm-2 heavy metal deluxe pedal....and guess what? It has a switch for high an low gain ..and a lower noise floor than the original boss...here's the kicker. I ordered and received mine 2 years ago.so essentially boss made all of us wait an extremely long time to get our favorite pedal re-released cuz they are greedy.they wanted to make sure they'll make millions first.and essentially and almost obviously...boss went and took china's ideas on theyr boss hm-2 clone.and stole their ideas to use them as a wazacraft version.that kinda makes me mad...and the price as well.$179 what? For a switch extra and a sticker that says wazacraft...damn man.ive had this pedal essentially for 2 years now and I love it but...now I don't need to buy a wazacraft because boss took the pedal I owns schematics and treated it like they are doing us a huge favor...and nobody even knows because of TRUMPS dumb ass making all kinds of people hate the Chinese...stupid people I say.i hate this world sometimes. I'm gonna save my money and get the real HM-2 HEAVY METAL pedals that actually matter... 1.FUZZLORD-HM-6. 2.BEAR AMPS-HEAVIER METAL. 3.LONE WOLF AUDIO- LEFT HAND WRATH. 4.XINSOUND-HM-18M HEAVY METAL DELUXE.$47 from China...you havta ship around or you'll end up paying a stupid assed shipping and handling fee that's insane...don't buy that one.go to dh gate and buy it from XINSOUND on there because there's free shipping and it will only cost you $47.period. a damn fine price for a badass pedal.and this pedal fucking rules.its the exact same fucking thing as the wazacraft...I just realized it when I was watching your fine video.thank you for putting up kickass content...you seem like a really cool guy.wish I could kick it w you and jam.but before it's gone or something crazy.you NEED TO BUY A XINSOUND-HM-18M HEAVY METAL pedal from DHGATE. IM VERY VERY DISAPPOINTED IN BOSS and how much they apperantly care very little about theyr fans.im not even gonna sign a petition for the fz-2 cuz I'm not begging them for shit anymore.they made us wait and wait and wait for a regurgitated copy of theyr own pedal from China. Wtf is that? Sorry man,I'm just super let down and mad that they are charging so much for the damn thing too.now all the other hm-2 are gonna stay at $200 and $250 because of it..if they would've at least made it cheaper than $100 it would've FORCED all the old pedals and all the new super expensive clones to drop theyr prices (all of them) to something that I can way more easily afford.so I'm just feeling like I got super screwed real bad by this company all the sudden and it kinda hurts me.i LOVED boss.oh well .I'm gonna give too much money to the people who are actually designing shit and actually care about this pedal.boss only cares about money.LWA-at least made an HM-2 that kills all of boss pedals.and actually put new options on the pedal.and actually redesigned circuits.boss barely did anything at all.except make us all wait very long for this....essentially a= Chinese XINSOUND HM-18m heavy metal deluxe pedal stuffed into a boss HM-2 wazacraft pedal casing. this is greed and laziness at its finest because china made this pedal to the T it seems exactly.and I bet too....1 year an a half before boss ever even had the list of ALL of our signatures and any uprising of wanting a re-release of this pedal ever swimming in theyr tiny balls yet. They at least could of actually done some work and put EXTRA knobs and functions an shit on the pedal that they woulda had to design.and not just a tiny lil switch.for low and high gain....just like my Chinese clone that rules balls.i apologize still and yes I LOVE BOSS PEDALS.but I feel a bit bettayed by all the lack of everything involved on theyr part. So I'll give my money to th Chinese and the people who are making the BEST BE ALL END ALL HM-2 PEDALS.and not the wazacraft. I would however buy one used for $60 a long time from now when this shit is dying down and Left Hand wrath's are $150 brand new.this crazy pricing bullshit has got to come to an end .
Hey. Send me all of those pedals. I'll send them back and demo them together. Just remember that they copied boss at the end of the day so don't get too outraged ;-) It's like complaining a song/cover version sounds as good as the original and was recorded cheaper without paying the original song writer. I own a hm2 clone btw. I'm not an angel.
If you want to hear something really nasty that's made in japan, check out Flatbacker the band. Grimy guitar tone and you can actually hear the bass player.
I wish. I'd still do that if they offered btw. I'd just have to do the paid ad option for the vid. I asked them to get a loaner and they sent me one. I'd be honest about the pedal either way.
I've been watching this channel for years now, and I have recently been really appreciating your push for people in metal and rock to use different speakers.
Yep the v30 thing is out of control re forum advice. I recognize your posts too so thanks for sticking with the channel.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE i think in recent years metal has sold out
I LOVED IT WHEN YOU YOU MAXED OUT BOTH PEDALS! KEEP'EM COMING!
Great to see you back, man.
Thanks Phil
Great to see another video from you mate. I really like the custom mode on the Waza HM-2, I think it sounds amazing.
Yep I love the new mode. Outrageous
Glad to see you back Owen!
Thanks man!
My dear friend. Where have you been???
3 months it has been. Please let us know if you are ok? Still hoping for more content. Hope you and the family are doing well. Thanks.
Day and night difference between the two. The original almost sounds like playing through a wah pedal that's rocked halfway forward, ie pronounced mids. Kind of nasal, not necessarily a bad thing if that's what you're going for. But the Waza sounds more natural and clear, I wonder if the original maybe has a problem, like a busted capacitor.
The Waza's custom tone also sounds appreciably different from its default tone, and is the best of the 3 imho.
The problem is the W2 is different enough, to be a different pedal(and not a very unique one). If you want the unique HM2 tones, I expect you'll be very disappointed.
Thankfully I've got a MIJ 🤘
gain pot needs a shot of deoxit and the 6.3v 47uf caps gotta be replaced at minimum
@Chab
Its not true to the original. That's exactly the point.
@Chab
Im going to go out on a limb and say you've never played either.
I much prefer the tone of the original. This has made me happy that the second hand market will be rebalanced as the prices have gotten stupid. This was a great comparison, but has just convinced me to get an original MIJ again if I want this sound in the future.
welcome back bud
Cheers man.
Loved loved loved the video!!! Welcome back!!!
Cheers Ralph
The (original) Boss HM-2 pedal was the first pedal I ever had. I picked it up second hand while I was early on in college so had to have been 1990. At the time I was playing it through a Fender Super 60 (nice little combo amp). I was never terribly impressed with the pedal, but it got the job done for cheap. The funny thing is, I don't know what happened to that pedal, I don't remember ever selling it or trading it.
Good stuff! Thanks.
Discovered your channel by accident and was fascinated by some older videos so I subscribed and am now browsing your back catalogue. I wonder if you'd be willing to do an episode on Roy Buchanan? TIA!
Not the first one, Colin from CSGuitars already did a comparison, but your perspective is always a welcome one in my book. :)
Ah... Thanks man!
Csguitars is more like a Luthier, he can't write and plays like
He's not in the US.
@@DAJUggaN4uT how is that even remotely significant? who gives a fuck where the reviewer is from? if you really felt like you had to point that out, i'd find something to do if in your stead..
@@AnotherAnon I think it's because Owen said he thinks he's the first in the US to review it.
Awesome. Have a great one!!
You too man
Glad to see you're back - I've missed you.
Interesting to hear the differences with your pedal and setup compared to other videos I've seen; just shows how different gear changes the sound.
The Waza is bound to be clearer, louder, etc. as there'd be no point creating something not as good, but also an original is over 30 years old and bound to have some components getting worn.
I have 5 HM-2s and also many clones that are more defined and sound better, but I'll always keep the originals.
Yep I think the hm2w is just a cleaner signal path than the original. So you lose some freqs with the original BUT the ratty high treble remains which makes that sound.
Hey oh, Owen. I missed you brother. Glad to see a new video.
Cheers Dave!
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Cheers Owen🍻
Finally Man! Next time just do a short saying for example "I'm alive, So FY All hahaaa!", we'll worry less;) Nice to see You back! Oh! And can't wait for NIN!
Got the original when I was 9 still play the same one today 37. It looks like war Memorial but works !
Boss pedals really are rugged.
Fuck yeah dude! Was wondering what you were up to man, glad your uploading again! Sounds badass, all ive got is one of those plastic copies of this to do my best entombed impression.
I have a few copies too. Hehe
Hmmm, I don‘t know, but to me it sounds like the Waza Re-Release (both modes) has less of that 1k chainsaw.
Sure hope they have this on the mass market by Christmas. I'm getting this for myself.
You can Pre-order it now but I'm not sure when they ship.
August
do you tried a weber graywolve speaker ist a very great metal speaker
Good to know. I'll keep an eye out.
tedweber.com/graywolf12f/ weber makes also good celestion copies the gray wolve sound like a mix the g12h30watt with the good old english v30 it has the low and Low mid from g12h and uppermid bite of the old englsh v30
The 'custom mode' sounds more evil because of that bigger headroom 🤭
WOW! The Waza sounds fantastic. I hope Boss gives the Hyper Fuzz the Waza treatment soon.
I think Orgy used to use that.
😁 it’s all over the ‘Candyass’ album and Deadsy used it on their ‘Commencement’ record too.
@@jessebarrera5471 I tried to recreate candyass years ago and failed with that pedal. I would love to know how they used it.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I’m glad you mentioned that. If you would consider doing that over again I and the 6 other Orgy fans out there would greatly appreciate it.
I went down an Amir Derahk rabbit hole about a year and a half ago. If I can help steer you in the right direction he went into detail on The Dave Friedman Tone Talk episode he was on. That episode lead to several podcasts, interviews, and old magazines articles I pulled up on google. Off the top of my head he said that the ‘Orgy Sound’ was a series of vintage and modern gear from that time. Amir and Ryan both favor Marshall tones and still do today because they use Friedman amps. I’ve seen Amir use Orange too. Keep in mind - he played Synth Guitar and Ryan played Electric guitar. The Roland Hex pickup is crucial if you are chasing Amir’s guitar. Both Players pushed each of there individual rigs with the Hyper Fuzz that was the secret sauce. In those days Ryan was playing Ibanez 7 strings and Amir played Jackson’s, Parker’s, Ibanez and a few others. One thing I noticed about his sound which I know is prevalent in the ‘Julien-K’ camp is that he uses a P-90. I have a feeling P-90s made an appearance on Candyass and Vapor Transmission. His goal was to take the Judas Priest ‘Turbo’ tone and make it as gross and off putting as can be. Ryan also used a lot of Tremolo effect on that album.
Hopefully that was helpful, it’s all I can remember off the top of my dome. I hope one day you revisit that tone because it’s so unique and greatly forgotten. I hope that album sees a resurgence again. Thanks dude.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Hope a video of Orgy tone sees the light of day
Excellent stuff mate,custom mode is exactly what im after!
Yep it's got the snark of the HM2 with a few more lower freqs audible.
wow...he WAZA custom mode - me like!! Thanks for the video, dude ;)
This may be the heaviest demo of HM2 BOSS on the internet.
Awesome dude! Amazing video. =D
I know its not the intent of the video, but really liked the kick tone on the intro
Yeah I mixed it a bit loud drums wise. I just thought the energy was good. If I have the project open I'll let you know what samples they were.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Cool I assumed it was a live kit
Welcome back, dude! I'm not used to seeing one without all the paint scratched away and such. We just did an HM-2 circuit explained video a bit ago. I'm curious to know what, on the circuit level, got changed up.
If it's the same value components I suspect the hm2w is just a cleaner signal path than the original. Less signal degradation. So you may lose some freqs with the original BUT the ratty mid high treble remains which makes that sound. But on the waza all freqs are hitting so you get that cleaner top end and more perceived volume. Better tolerance on dozens of components and less capacitance can really clean things up and stop choking freqs.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I'm curious to know what they did about the "cross-over" distortion portion that was traditionally Germanium Diodes. With those being slim-pickings and the preference to go SMD, I'm guessing (and only a guess), they either used Schottky diodes instead, or they removed the cross-over distortion all together. From what I hearing, I am guessing the former, instead of the latter. Yeah, I can nerd out of that circuit.
The Prince gag 🤣
i was just thinking yesterday where the F*** is COT? Did he die? I know you got a baby but jesus man you just disappeared
Gotta pay the bills. Yt doesn’t. Sadly.
I'm all good man. Will be back soon.
I actually just thought the same thing and manually searched for the channel since I hadn’t seen anything in my subs for so long. I guess I didn’t scroll back far enough into yesterday. Good to see a new video regardless.
family life ruins everything.
@@wsplatinum haha
7.33 sounds like i got you by split enz
Man I forgot about that band. It's from this which may have ripped them off but it is a common bluesish riff th-cam.com/video/VOOcJobuZTc/w-d-xo.html
8:31 is actually a great tone; I personally have a 1989 Taiwan version and I love it for more than just the dimed sound. Yeah it's cool, but whoda thunked that it would be a diverse pedal???
I don't even listen to black metal but I just love how over the top these tones are, to an extent I find difficult to explain
We can be difficult together.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE sounds difficult 😁
hey try it with a tube screamer before the hm2 no drive just level up amd tone 75% on the ts it will blow your mind
It is forbidden. But I like how you think. Esp how clean my amp is.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE hell no try iit it tights it up and adds more impact and yes with a super clean amp im running it thru a 1979fender super tween reverb i wish i could send you the tracks
Great to have you back! The TH-cam guitar based content had started to get mighty dull - to the point where Stevie T was recommended by the algorithm. Yikes 😬
Glad your back!
Any experience with the Boss
Mega Distortion?
Nah never tried that baest
Great sounds Bro 🎸💥
0:12 One of the funniest episodes of the Young Ones
It's so good. RIP Rik.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Indeed
The sounds of the 80s rock on the radio at the beginning. Crazy.
Pre-ordered one from Sweetwater. That custom mode intrigues me haha
It's filthy. Love it.
I appreciate that you did this video. Mainly because you reminded me of why I loved Peavey Sheffield’s. Now I need to go on the hunt for a 4x12 Sheffield cab.
Also I enjoy your content. Especially the Dismember, Entombed, and Danzig videos.
I am beyond happy you came back strong. I usually comment where you been if it has been awhile. But I knew you were focusing on the family, being a new dad. And focusing on your health. How is Keto working fir ya? Cause you do look more tone, pun intended, and maybe even lifting weights?
Glad to see you are doing well. Did you move into a house or a apartment that you can crank a 4×12 van haha. Cheers!
Keto was great but I have been paleoish for a month. I'm down from 250 when I did that vid to 224. I've only been back on the weights for a few weeks as I jacked up my arm. I'm working around it. Tennis elbow. I'm in an apartment right now with the fam.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Great job! Biin n.
So happy your back at it!
How's the baby liking the electric? Mine loves the acoustic, but doesn't like any distorted electric (yet), makes him cry haha.
I miss my HM2, this is a must buy for me to relive my youth.
She did get scared of the old booth farting out. She also loves slapping the strings. She loves it when I play my electric unplugged the best.
Sounds like Paco de Lucia playing through an Arion Hot Watt into a Bose Wave Radio! Awesome!
I know that tone well, this is slightly different tho
Cool! You just cut a tree when you turned on both of them at the same time 😂. I want it!
One rusty chainsaw and one reissue. Hehe
I got kicked out of my own band, around '87 for doing exactly that. I bought one, my friend in a different band bought one and then gave me his, because it was useless. I still have mine; traded the other one.
You should try the Beringer version in a shootout. I had the original HM pedal installed in my solid state Crate stack back in '99. Sounded bitchn'. I love this pedal .
I wasn't notified of this video and I am raging
I think that when you had them both dimed out, The older one sounded better to me. But when you had them turned down I liked the waza craft.
i have now a waza one its a great pedal its very good in combination with celestion g12m 65 creambaclks and g12 h 75 creambacks
Hi sir would you please tell me how do you run the original HM-2 with 9 or 12 volts? Thanks from Chile 🙂
I always use a battery clip extention to a regular 9 volt supply.
I MISSED U KING 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Haha thanks man.
Try the mt2w it's also awesome
I just sold my original. Miss it already.
Oh crickey, I need one.
Oh man, the Peavey MS412 with Sheffield 1290s is such a hefty cab and yes, the speakers are very dark with really spiky highs. I had one for a while but I ditched it for a 1960a loaded with T75s. I find the T75s with a Peavey VTM and a HM2 are the perfect recipe for a chainsaw.
Concerning the sound difference, was the original HM2 fully powered? To me it sounded like it was slightly underpowered to my ears (dying battery?). They were from the era of 12v shunted to 9v craziness that Boss thought was cool and required a special power supply for it to function properly. Only other options were battery or the pedal had to be daisy chained to get the full power.
Either way, I am stoked to get mine whenever it decides to show up.
Nah I know what you mean power wise. It wasn't that starved aspect. I was using a battery clip converter. Good shout on the 75's. My fav are the old English ones with the grills/vents on the magnet.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I have no idea what type I have. The cab is definitely older though. I opened it up to fix the wiring and there was rust and cobwebs galore. My best guess is that it is from the late 90's or early 2000's. Pretty sure it was a JCM900 cab. Unfortunately 40% of the vinyl is gone, the grill cloth is torn all over and all the Marshall badges are missing. I had to replace the handles and jack plate just to get it working. Only cost me $100 and a fuzz pedal though, so I feel like I beat the system.
I've had the OG HM-2 for like 4 years now could never switch to this reissue
You can't go wrong with either.
From what i van hear
The new one has more fuzz to it..
Oh and Today is the Day for the Christmas episodes this year..
Awesome demo review brother! I’m not trying to hurt anybody’s feelings, but to my ears the WAZA shits all over the original!
Can you do a video on Linde Lindström from HIM guitar tone? \m/
Good shout. NIN is up next.
This is pretty much the pedal equivalent of the Jeremy Clarkson meme "This is brilliant, but I like this."
I have an original. Makes some cool fuzz tones. I really wish that the custom setting altered the circuit to give a tighter, more useful distortion.
Light trim of mids, custom gives a bit back.
where do you live?
Wait, is that a Kemper? I thought you weren't into digital... Something persuade you to pick one up?
Anyway, stoked you're back.
Yes and yes I hate digital. I can't stand it. I'm just in an apartment right now.
He is running the original on a battery. Wouldnt the pedal be better using a 12v power supply?
I had the battery hooked up to 12v
Anyone figure out which three componants they removed to slightly change the tone of this one so idiots will toss more money at boss?
Can we gat a dimebag tone secret video of cowboys from hell that tone is badass
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I feel like the original is tighter/is compressed more smoothly vs the Waza being a little more loose. Both very usable though.
The WAZA is definitely cleaner, while the vintage has this quirky unpredictability about it. I can tell you had fun.
The original definitely has a vibe and charm to it, but the Waza version is infinitely more useable and practical for damn sure..
That's exactly my thoughts about the original as well.
possible but for me it doesn't really have that buzzsaw guitar tone in it, which to me is the whole point of the hm2. the waza is a good pedal fs but idrk what the point is if it doesn't do the thing thst made it famous
flexin' on tha kemper that's mostly being used for it's generic ass sneapish/djenty profiles there mate. Also, do the Sheffield speakers really had a reputation like the G12T-75 among the modern metal crowd?
also, sounds like a cool idea to use the HM2 as a "glorified clean boost"
Yeah I can't stand that Kemper. So lifeless.
Awesome... thansk for this. Play some Entombed & Dismember! In The Meantime Checkout Endseeker and LIK bands... Modern HM2 Death metal bands
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@@CIRCLEOFTONE sorry.. I meant.. AGAIN
Wait... Where's the corpse paint...??? 😂 🤘
I have a farmers tan if that counts?
@@CIRCLEOFTONE HELL YEAH 🔥🔥🔥🤘
I thought yt shadowbanned you but nope, haven't seen an upload in a while, hope all is well
Mercyful Fate riffs needed
Regarding the tones...I think I prefer the original here, but who's to say, through my cellphone. Still getting a Waza. I almost think what I hear as more highs in the original is simply a higher noise floor, which the new one has less. So that cleaner sound may be just that.
dude, the original... damn.
seems they made it a bit nicer sounding, I like it but won't be selling my old one.
yeah mine never sounds like that.
That is a nasty little pedal. I think it would reroute the neurons of your mind after a few hours of that. I will have to check it out myself sometime.
But I apologize for being off subject and I'm sure you get asked this all the time, but are you a fan of Kings X, or at least familiar enough with their past albums, to maybe cover the subject of Ty Tabor's signature sound and the unique circuitry that is utilized in his Strats? It's not easy to find all the information from what I hear, but some of the details have been slowly leaked out over the years.
Great band. I have a few on my plate that I'm getting to do perhaps in the future.
HM2 to me is swedish death metal, i do not want it cleaning up, thats the whole point, for other styles, yes it probably is better but that is not what i have the HM2 for. i do like the video though. Cheers
Yep but I'm jaded with bands copying that style. I like that it has a whole new thing with the agression. I know what you mean though.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE agreed, too many bands just rehashing the same stuff over and over, this is the problem as you get older, i am 44 (old school death metal fan, US and Sweden/Stockholm) and have heard alot of it before but for younger metal fans its great. i just love playing the HM2 for my own enjoyment. i have a Japan 1984 and a Taiwan (not sure of its year) and there is a slight difference in those two. that sound just hits the spot for me. Also i do like other styles and genres and am interested in all sounds and production styles. keep up the great work, i always enjoy your videos. Cheers
Did you move?
Yup
'These go to 11!'
WTF?! They've only made 11?!
I hope so. This one will be worth a fortune.
Get sum , hell yeah
Cheers BC
Is this the sound that launched a thousand bands?
Unfortunately yes. It's why I mentioned prince etc that used it. I don't think that scene needs another clone band wise. Great for enthusiasts though.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Just wanted to riff on Marlowes " Is this the face that launched a thousand ships?". I love this vid. Got a flashback to the mid 90s and teenage me listening to the metal hour on local radio Studio Brussel... Good memories, thank you for making me revisit them. I hope I can source a Waza HM2, but I fear a lot of them will already be spoken for.
I like the original. Dark and bold and brutal. New one is brighter. New mod is too much over the top muddy and fizzy.
China made a hm-2 heavy metal deluxe pedal....and guess what?
It has a switch for high an low gain ..and a lower noise floor than the original boss...here's the kicker.
I ordered and received mine 2 years ago.so essentially boss made all of us wait an extremely long time to get our favorite pedal re-released cuz they are greedy.they wanted to make sure they'll make millions first.and essentially and almost obviously...boss went and took china's ideas on theyr boss hm-2 clone.and stole their ideas to use them as a wazacraft version.that kinda makes me mad...and the price as well.$179 what?
For a switch extra and a sticker that says wazacraft...damn man.ive had this pedal essentially for 2 years now and I love it but...now I don't need to buy a wazacraft because boss took the pedal I owns schematics and treated it like they are doing us a huge favor...and nobody even knows because of TRUMPS dumb ass making all kinds of people hate the Chinese...stupid people I say.i hate this world sometimes.
I'm gonna save my money and get the real HM-2 HEAVY METAL pedals that actually matter... 1.FUZZLORD-HM-6.
2.BEAR AMPS-HEAVIER METAL.
3.LONE WOLF AUDIO- LEFT HAND WRATH.
4.XINSOUND-HM-18M HEAVY METAL DELUXE.$47 from China...you havta ship around or you'll end up paying a stupid assed shipping and handling fee that's insane...don't buy that one.go to
dh gate and buy it from XINSOUND on there because there's free shipping and it will only cost you $47.period. a damn fine price for a badass pedal.and this pedal fucking rules.its the exact same fucking thing as the wazacraft...I just realized it when I was watching your fine video.thank you for putting up kickass content...you seem like a really cool guy.wish I could kick it w you and jam.but before it's gone or something crazy.you NEED TO BUY A XINSOUND-HM-18M HEAVY METAL pedal from DHGATE.
IM VERY VERY DISAPPOINTED IN BOSS and how much they apperantly care very little about theyr fans.im not even gonna sign a petition for the fz-2 cuz I'm not begging them for shit anymore.they made us wait and wait and wait for a regurgitated copy of theyr own pedal from China.
Wtf is that? Sorry man,I'm just super let down and mad that they are charging so much for the damn thing too.now all the other hm-2 are gonna stay at $200 and $250 because of it..if they would've at least made it cheaper than $100 it would've FORCED all the old pedals and all the new super expensive clones to drop theyr prices (all of them) to something that I can way more easily afford.so I'm just feeling like I got super screwed real bad by this company all the sudden and it kinda hurts me.i LOVED boss.oh well .I'm gonna give too much money to the people who are actually designing shit and actually care about this pedal.boss only cares about money.LWA-at least made an HM-2 that kills all of boss pedals.and actually put new options on the pedal.and actually redesigned circuits.boss barely did anything at all.except make us all wait very long for this....essentially a=
Chinese XINSOUND HM-18m heavy metal deluxe pedal stuffed into a boss HM-2 wazacraft pedal casing.
this is greed and laziness at its finest because china made this pedal to the T it seems exactly.and I bet too....1 year an a half before boss ever even had the list of ALL of our signatures and any uprising of wanting a re-release of this pedal ever swimming in theyr tiny balls yet.
They at least could of actually done some work and put EXTRA knobs and functions an shit on the pedal that they woulda had to design.and not just a tiny lil switch.for low and high gain....just like my Chinese clone that rules balls.i apologize still and yes I LOVE BOSS PEDALS.but I feel a bit bettayed by all the lack of everything involved on theyr part.
So I'll give my money to th Chinese and the people who are making the BEST BE ALL END ALL HM-2 PEDALS.and not the wazacraft.
I would however buy one used for $60 a long time from now when this shit is dying down and Left Hand wrath's are $150 brand new.this crazy pricing bullshit has got to come to an end .
Hey. Send me all of those pedals. I'll send them back and demo them together. Just remember that they copied boss at the end of the day so don't get too outraged ;-)
It's like complaining a song/cover version sounds as good as the original and was recorded cheaper without paying the original song writer. I own a hm2 clone btw. I'm not an angel.
If you want to hear something really nasty that's made in japan, check out Flatbacker the band. Grimy guitar tone and you can actually hear the bass player.
Idk the original just has more of that RAW sound to me. Still seems like they can't recreate it 1:1 perfectly
The new one sounds more open and clearer, the old one is great too.
Yep love both.
The old one sounds Norwegianer😁
No comparison on the chugging. Original all the way.
It's better.
So Boss dragged you out of your tomb with some demo money?
I wish. I'd still do that if they offered btw. I'd just have to do the paid ad option for the vid. I asked them to get a loaner and they sent me one. I'd be honest about the pedal either way.
USA??? Who knew?
Noice
i think the chainsaw tone is an exception to modern copycat syndrome. mostly because no bands nowadays ever use it
You're very wrong on that. There are so many doing hm-2 Stockholm sounds that's it's ruined it for everyone