The BEST Direct Drive BEGINNER Bundle for PC & Consoles?!

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  • @SlightlyMisunderstood
    @SlightlyMisunderstood ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I've had this wheel base for a few months now. My first direct drive product. It's proven to be an excellent product so far. I use it in all the major Sims and it does not disappoint!

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you for sharing the user experience! -Michel

    • @drwhulikesyou
      @drwhulikesyou 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      hey hows the v12 holding up?

    • @queanuar85
      @queanuar85 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hi can we have update ?

    • @Spwnny
      @Spwnny 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SlightlyMisunderstood any problems so far?

    • @SlightlyMisunderstood
      @SlightlyMisunderstood 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ no problems while I had it. I don’t have it anymore as I upgraded to a stronger wheelbase. More torque… but it was very good when I had it.

  • @wagonet
    @wagonet ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Amazing. More cheaper options the better! I got into the hobby because of the R5. This seems like a great competition for Moza

  • @arranmc182
    @arranmc182 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Im shocked after PXN used mostly an old madcatz design for the V10 I wasnt all that impressed but bloody hell this is a huge step up for PXN and I welcome more options for direct drive as with prices now I think its time for gear drive and belt drive wheels to either get far cheaper or just go away for good. If they make a universal button box that can take any standard wheel simalar to what Fanatec offer I could see this being a fantastic option, I would love to try the non lite version to see what its like next to my current Logitech G Pro Wheel

  • @MrLalDrives
    @MrLalDrives หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have been using this wheel for a few months now, I play Euro Truck Simulator 2 and rn, I am learning drifting. This is a great wheel and the pedals are freaking amazing. I only wish that the wheel was completely round instead of D shaped.

  • @j0rtsy
    @j0rtsy ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I literally just picked this up yesterday; wonderful timing! This thing is pretty good for what it is. The pedals feel a bit stronger than the Logitech ones, minus the rubber stopper in the 920. All in all, this is pretty aight.
    EDIT: I somehow did not put the OTHER spring on the brake and that makes it so much better than the G920 feel wise.

    • @earthexplorer579
      @earthexplorer579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why not moza,they had a deal ,even fanatec, i got csl dd, clubsport wheel 2.5 and v2 pedasl all for 600 plus 50 for shipping.

    • @j0rtsy
      @j0rtsy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@earthexplorer579 I got it secondhand basically new for a third of that, so 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @Rezamajedi
      @Rezamajedi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@earthexplorer579 does moza work on PS5?

    • @TKommando
      @TKommando 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rezamajedi not at this time. I think all of the Moza products (except for the upcoming R3 bundle) are PC only. The upcoming R3 will be Xbox compatible.

    • @drwhulikesyou
      @drwhulikesyou 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@j0rtsyshould i go for the v10 or v99?

  • @Mrlousyshot101
    @Mrlousyshot101 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the review, I’ve been waiting a long time for a video for this wheels setup.

  • @JoeyBagZ
    @JoeyBagZ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The RGB lighting on the wheel works as a shift light in GT7. But in just about everything else it is a steady light.

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats what I experienced, too. Should be possible though, maybe with a future update. -Michel

    • @JoeyBagZ
      @JoeyBagZ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OverTake_ggI am also hoping that. Also, I have done extensive reviews on PXN v12 DDL and the DDS 10nm base. The wheels can be used with other wheel bases that use NRG style quick releases and plugging in a usb c cable to the wheel and PC. The button box will work independently from the base.

    • @imposter4518
      @imposter4518 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JoeyBagZbut can i use other nrg style wheels on the pxn v12?

    • @JoeyBagZ
      @JoeyBagZ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@imposter4518 yes as long as you can connect it to the PC to get functionality for the button box.i also use my moza KS wheel with the Moza universal hub on the PXN v12 lite base. If you just want to steer I have a wheel with a NRG QR hub on it with no buttons. I use my keyboard to controls everything. Now on Xbox or PlayStation you are stuck, you need to use the supplied wheel.

  • @TeamHorneyRacing
    @TeamHorneyRacing ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Interesting that they are somehow skipping round Sony's licencing by adding a dongle, I'd be worried that Sony somehow find a way of nerfing this wheel with a patch to the PS.
    It's an interesting option for sure, also 10/10 for the shirt Michel, I wish I'd ordered one before they sold out!

    • @SpriGgEx
      @SpriGgEx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure they care about the PS4 anymore but they surely can do that on the PS5 with an update that they force you to install.

  • @admiralrng6506
    @admiralrng6506 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    can't wait to see this being pit against the R5

  • @GG-si7fw
    @GG-si7fw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As of April 2024, Microcenter has the DDS, 10 nm version, for $331.60 USD, $120 for the PXN wheel, and $200 for the pedals. For just over $550, that is a great price sans the non load cell pedals.

    • @davidberta6692
      @davidberta6692 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aye so I'm guessing either it was a very limited stock or they took it off cause it's not on there anymore

  • @RiddleTime
    @RiddleTime ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think having the drivers to be signed is very important for the end-user. I've noticed this myself with a piece of software that I developed, a lot of users didn't want to use the application where only after the application was signed they started using it.
    It shouldn't be that much of a struggle in theory as it should only cost them roughly 300-400 USD a year.

    • @j0rtsy
      @j0rtsy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The software itself, “PXN Racing,” also flags some antivirus as a Trojan/logger. Not a great look to install it and have it immediately quarantined.

  • @thehaneranga422
    @thehaneranga422 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How would you say the force feedback details compares to the moza or fanatec equivalent?

  • @laurentoaltavano2125
    @laurentoaltavano2125 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    to anyone owning a pxn v12 lite more than a year, how's the performance until now? currently thinking of buying one in how it's the cheapest bang for buck "quality" that's available in my country

  • @javianbrown8627
    @javianbrown8627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been considering finishing the anime overtake today and now that I've seen this video on a channel of the same name it's a sign

  • @MrKrampyHands
    @MrKrampyHands ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I love how there's so so much competition now it's forcing fanatec and other big players to evolve and adjust prices I love it I started with a g29 then went to a 🤝 za R5 bundle then to a R12 with CRP pedals and CS wheel with Moza shifter and hand brake with NLR cockpit I'm currently very happy with the R12 it'll be a long time before I upgrade again

  • @pierresilvanascimento9266
    @pierresilvanascimento9266 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Melhor review do PXN V12 Lite que vi até agora! O mais completo! Passando por todos os jogos! Parabéns!!! Estou saindo do G29, você acha que o PXN v12 é um nível muito acima? Vale a pena sair do G29 para ele?

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its a good step from the G29! -Michel

  • @olliebelt9486
    @olliebelt9486 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have just purchased this wheel - waiting for it to arrive, but quite intrigued as the Moza R3 has just been released. Did you ever get the RGB shift light to work on PC? (And if so, how?)

    • @gavinmaoz3100
      @gavinmaoz3100 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@olliebelt9486 any updates? How is it going

  • @Fugitive_8
    @Fugitive_8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For 550< or >550 you get
    Direct Drive System
    Fully metal base
    Leather stitching
    3 pedal system
    6nm torque feedback
    No shifter or handbrake sadly
    Quick release system
    Playstation/ Xbox/ PC compatibility
    Fully customizable
    Not bad but im a bit bummed about the shifter

  • @Leron_T
    @Leron_T ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is nice but I'll stick the the Moza Racing R5 bundle

  • @RiffleVFXportfolio
    @RiffleVFXportfolio ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So if I were to use this on the ps5, I need to plug it into my PC and set it up there first?

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No it also worked when I had it not on the pc before. But it's recommended to have the latest firmware. This might work with their app though, they have PXN for Android and iOS. -Michel

    • @RiffleVFXportfolio
      @RiffleVFXportfolio ปีที่แล้ว

      @OverTake_gg perfect, thank you so much for the info!

  • @redbaron2448
    @redbaron2448 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does this work on Xbox 1???

  • @sestenwhen
    @sestenwhen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for reviewing the PXN! There isn't a lot about this wheel. I only found your review and an unboxing. I'm looking at this model, The Fanatec CSL DD Ready to race Bundle and The Moza R3 bundle when it comes out. The PXN seems to have the most bang for the buck but the software makes me nervous. I looked at the App and it looks like its all in Chinese. Anyone have an issues getting this to work with Xbox?

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We will review / hands-on the R3 bundle next week, you might want to wait for our comparison there! :) -Michel

    • @sestenwhen
      @sestenwhen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OverTake_gg Thanks, I will. Looking to upgrade from a G920 and the PXN, Moza and Fanatec are all under consideration but afraid to make an expensive mistake.

    • @j0rtsy
      @j0rtsy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sestenwhen Hey fam! I can talk a bit on the software. It is very clearly developed by PXN as it appears to be somewhat haphazardly translated to English, nonetheless it’s readable and generally makes sense and has tooltips for each setting. On Windows, if I recall correctly, the installer is unsigned so it does present the protection screen you have to “Run Anyway” on. Secondly, I run a separate antivirus that quarantines the application executable after it is installed. It claims it’s a potential keylogger, though I haven’t done an actual analysis myself. My assumption (remember what they say about those though) is that Kaspersky thinks it reading USB input is suspicious since the application is unrecognized. Windows Defender does not seem to identify it as a threat. The desktop software is really only used to update the base, pedals, and the wheel itself over USB to the latest firmware. For this reason, I ran the software in a Virtual Machine so I could isolate it if it was snooping around.
      The good news? PXN also has a smartphone app that connects to the wheelbase over USB. It lets you adjust all of the same settings on the wheel that are available in the software. This is the primary way I interact with the settings and only check for updates every so often.

    • @sestenwhen
      @sestenwhen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@j0rtsy Thnx for the reply. I'm on an xbox so I'm not sure if that matters. After careful consideration I think I'm settled on the Moza R3. Fanatec as a company is up in the air and PXN is not really popular in the US yet. Moza has the strongest possibility of being around in the future if I want accessories or upgrades etc.

  • @starlightstarlightstarlight
    @starlightstarlightstarlight 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey there, I have a few questions about this. Sorry if it’s too much, lol
    1. Did the chip for the PS5 come with the wheel, or do I need to buy it separately?
    2. How did you fix the clutch issue on GT7? Did you unbind the clutch or something like that?
    3. Is this useable on F1 23/24 on PS5?
    4. Would you recommend this over, let’s say, a T300 RS GT?
    5. Can you update the firmware using a mobile app?

  • @atemybanana724
    @atemybanana724 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what do you think about the pedals compared to its price and other products?

  • @jaimeandrade77
    @jaimeandrade77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does it compare to fanatec GT DD?

  • @SpriGgEx
    @SpriGgEx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just wanted to Add, its almost impossible to buy the better Gear from PXN currently. The Shop only lists the Entry Toy Style Wheel Sets and even the PS4 adapter is out of stock.

  • @markevinlagsac3252
    @markevinlagsac3252 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that compatible with logitech pedal and shifters. Planning to buy the wheels

  • @fredkapp498
    @fredkapp498 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good review Will it work on PS4 ? Thanks

    • @SevenxArt
      @SevenxArt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes it is . just connect usb to ps4 controller .

  • @thomasberry8873
    @thomasberry8873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i might have missed it but how were the peddles?

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think I mentioned that they are very linear and in general do the job. Its a decent set for beginners. If you are used to higher end pedal sets, this is not for you. The brake needs more force! :D -Michel

  • @govgamers2821
    @govgamers2821 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So i had to wait for pxn to release wheel for this base?

  • @bean3243
    @bean3243 ปีที่แล้ว

    the bottom two shifters are for clutch.

  • @chrisstubbs428
    @chrisstubbs428 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would you be willing to either do a video or reply with assistance using the PXN on games like Dirt 2.0 or WRC Generations? Loving the wheel on ACC (pc) but I can't get it to work on WRC. I've grabbed the download "force feedback" file and attempted to follow their directions by going into "browse local files" from steam and locating the "devices" folder within the "input" folder but I can't find either the Input or devices folder. Even searched within the game for "device_defines" file and couldn't locate. Any help you can provide would be great as their customer service is not the best although I'm really enjoying the wheel

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You mean EA Sports WRC? It should be here: EA SPORTS WRC\WRC\Content\input\Windows\actionmaps\

  • @svtcontour
    @svtcontour ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if this is kinda based around Simagic stuff or possibly whomever is manufacturing for Simagic.

  • @Silva_GTR
    @Silva_GTR ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the usb port on the wheel work? would be nice if the wheel works for other wheelbases

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes it did, had to use it for updating the firmware

  • @idrayas2
    @idrayas2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's kinda sad that in my country cammus c5 2 pedal cost 600 bucks, csl dd starter pack 2 pedal at 970 bucks and r5 bundle 3 pedal at 750. 2nd hand market is virtually nonexistent.

  • @SB100Z
    @SB100Z 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now review the V12 DDS 10nm with the 13 inch wheel

  • @joegaines8448
    @joegaines8448 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really like next year I'm aiming to save for a sim wheel too and I so happen to be a sim racing trainee just like those who are learn sim racing.❤🏁

  • @robonlean
    @robonlean 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am looking to get this wheel, and I was wondering if the pedals have any grips on them to prevent sliding because i have no cockpit

    • @johncrow5552
      @johncrow5552 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You could always glue some sand paper on there or buy some adhesive paint (paint with sand in it)

  • @james-dt4ei
    @james-dt4ei 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can other wheels from moza Fanatec etc fit on the pxn v12

  • @kfaulkne16085
    @kfaulkne16085 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can I use any other shifters with this wheel BESIDES the A7? (Xbox)

  • @nexusdog
    @nexusdog ปีที่แล้ว

    Not available in the UK?

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  ปีที่แล้ว

      It should be available on Amazon again in the near future: www.amazon.co.uk/PXN-V12-Lite-Gaming-Steering/dp/B0CC68JH4R
      -Michel

    • @nexusdog
      @nexusdog ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OverTake_gg Thanks for the link, although this and the pxn-v12 are currently unavailable.

  • @buraionline
    @buraionline 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi. Can you help me with my 2 questions?
    Can you test if this is compatible for the PS3? I'm planning to at least use it for GT5 but I don't want to waste money due to compatibility issues.
    Can its pedal be paired with the Logitech G29?
    Thanks

  • @Gawdzilla93
    @Gawdzilla93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still waiting for decent wheels in India :(

  • @sawsawanph
    @sawsawanph 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in your opinion, what do you think is better to buy?,
    T300RS GT and Amazon shifter
    or
    PXN 12 Lite and amazon shifter
    and why?

    • @tehMaloWalo
      @tehMaloWalo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      v12 obviously. it’s direct drive.

  • @d1of1c243
    @d1of1c243 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this come with the usb transfer thing for ps5 or is that separate

  • @ethswitch7303
    @ethswitch7303 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, I have a question, I own a thrustmaster shifter and I play on ps5, would that work with the wheel base? Also nice video!

  • @robertcarr4172
    @robertcarr4172 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pedals arent load cell?

  • @angcharap5617
    @angcharap5617 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey bro I replaced the ile how come he b isnt working still? Thanks.

  • @finley-ex9xc
    @finley-ex9xc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    where did you buy it? i cant find it

  • @jaisilver1477
    @jaisilver1477 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I buy this from I can’t find it anywhere in the uk?

  • @佐々木大吾-s2z
    @佐々木大吾-s2z 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, I'm Japanese and I always enjoy your video! I just wondered if it's better than Moza, Fanatec, or Cammus because I'm thinking about buying my first sim and trying to enjoy it with my dad. He plays GT7 mainly and I play Assetto Corsa. Both he and I use a gaming controller so I don't want to make mistakes when I choose our first one. Do you have any advice? I would like to hear anything from you! Thank you for the video!

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Konnichiwa! I would not say it's better, the FFB is not the strongest and the PS5 support is not official. This PXN is a affordable entry level wheel! My favorite option right now is the Fanatec ClubSport DD+ to switch between PS5 and PC. Logitech G Pro is also great for PS5! Is it available in Japan? But if you don't want to spend so much money for the start, a Thrustmuster T500 could also work for you! -Michel

    • @佐々木大吾-s2z
      @佐々木大吾-s2z 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OverTake_gg Is 6nm enough or real for acc or gt racing? I have watched a lot of videos people playing acc and having 8nm ffb and I felt I need it to make it closer to real.

  • @nathancurrie2658
    @nathancurrie2658 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would this work on Xbox

  • @SharapovaFan
    @SharapovaFan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How good is this? Main reason I want this is because it can work with both PS5 and Xbox Series. I currently have a Thrustmaster T300 RSGT and I use a Drivehub so I can play Forza Horizon on Xbox. But I'd rather just have a single wheel without the Drivehub adaptor. How much better would you say it is, than the T300 RSGT?

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its not a big enough step from the T300RS Id say. -Michel

  • @christiaanpretorius1
    @christiaanpretorius1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why can i not get this to work with iRacing? Am I that stupid?

  • @Infedelle
    @Infedelle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People talked about problems with their cheaper version not dd.. is it word this? Long run..

  • @marcowong1436
    @marcowong1436 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmm direct drive shouldn't need any minimum force nor road effect on Acc

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, I probably overtuned a bit here and there, because the forces felt to weak for my taste. You can also see some clipping in ACC and iRacing. -Michel

  • @weary9994
    @weary9994 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    does a review but didint review the clutch okayyyy???????????????

  • @NichtsNashi
    @NichtsNashi ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you germany

  • @BodySnatchers-v5f
    @BodySnatchers-v5f ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm commenting below to enter the V12 bundle contest. Looks Like I may be the only one who's entered.

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good attempt! 😅 -Michel

  • @misterpervysage476
    @misterpervysage476 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They keep making better bases but neglect the fact that their ecosystem needs some actual wheels for their quick releases

  • @fredkapp498
    @fredkapp498 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Their Customer service cant be worse than Fanatec

  • @TECHMADEASY100
    @TECHMADEASY100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Bro Hope Your Day Is Goin Good. I just wanted to say i am a 13 year old ad i really watch your vids and they are supeer informative and somtimess fun to watch I really wanted to have a racing wheel for my pc but I cant find any good one brcause of my really really tight buget of 40 £ my dad cant afford any of my requeset and I really hope that you can help me with any of the wheel that is spaer for you and which is laying around that you dont use

  • @mikedeanellis
    @mikedeanellis ปีที่แล้ว

    I kind of thought this channel got shut down by motorsports games… but I guess not!

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We never had a connection with Motorsport Games. -Michel

    • @vjollila96
      @vjollila96 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are talking about traxion right?

  • @just_ppe
    @just_ppe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wonder how long will it take to break :) and good luck with customer support in a China based company...
    I've already had big issues with Fanatec CSL DD and would think twice before buying cheap dd wheels...

  • @reviewforthetube6485
    @reviewforthetube6485 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pxn is so far behind imo lol they need to update the look and feel of things fast!

  • @dawidkossowski4714
    @dawidkossowski4714 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like a rebranded moza

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it's not, I use the Moza R9 as a "daily" right now, software, mounting holes, wheel layout philosophy - all different :) -Michel

    • @nativerezmedia
      @nativerezmedia ปีที่แล้ว

      Supposedly Moza helped with some of the design. I have the 10nm V12 and the wheel is the $400.00 RS one (and I paid $150.00).

  • @galakfyyar766
    @galakfyyar766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After 6 months of usage - my power unit is 120 watts and if the base is overheated, it is unplugged, until it is will cool down. Pedals are a nightmare - 90 degrees to the floor - not a good choice. The cooling system is so loud - especially at night time. As a result - it is a beta-test product, where you pay for that - 3/10.

  • @Banshee421x
    @Banshee421x ปีที่แล้ว +48

    This is the number 1 brand that we are told to stay away from here in the states

    • @sr3277
      @sr3277 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why

    • @GabsARV
      @GabsARV ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sr3277 in terms of Force Feedback, they're even worse than Logitech G29s. That's why. Now, with their DD wheel, I dunno, I'm still skeptical.

    • @ExploringNewEngland
      @ExploringNewEngland 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why is that. Thanks. Looking for one myself

    • @RingoYote
      @RingoYote 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      China

    • @jamelpiclit3062
      @jamelpiclit3062 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the v10 is okay but the v9 is garbage. And maybe the because its made in China.

  • @whiteandnerdytuba
    @whiteandnerdytuba ปีที่แล้ว

    Being Chinese how much slave labor went into making these?

    • @winonesoon9771
      @winonesoon9771 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      probably the same amount on what ever you are typing on lol......