History of WWI Primer 047: German Karabiner 88 and Gewehr 91 Documentary
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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German Military Rifles Vol 2: 88 and 91 Firearms
Dieter Storz
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Historical music from this episode:
Die Wacht am Rhein
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"They're the same f*cking gun"
I cant wait for when Othais does the Glock pistol decades from now and the whole episode is him just saying that.
As annoying as it may be, old Gaston Glock may actually have achieved perfection in the service pistol.
If your buying in bulk there really isnt a better choice.
🤣🤣🤣 That "evidence" was genius!
1st gen AR15s are already C&R. We are getting old!
"Ping!"
"That never gets old."
And that thing handled smartly in Mae's experienced hands. Look at that grouping!
With all the long rifles we have seen on this show, when Othais holds the Karabiner it looks like a BB gun or a toy in comparison to some gigantic 48 inch rifle. I imagine the weight is far more manageable.
It's very nice.
The recoil however is not.
@@Candrsenal Please enable Persian subtitles for all your programs
@@davidgruen7423 I bet it's a lot like shooting a M.95/30 Stutzen Carbine.
I`m so glad you explained the difference between a Kar88 and a Gew91, the truth has eluded me for years :)
Very complicated stuff here!
3 years can change so much ;)
Great job everybody! Just the right amount of review before delving into the meat and potatoes. Thanks.
Guys you are a admirable team, the production is impeccable as always. And for me the fact that you address the repercussion on the original vs reproduction is just a wonderful showing your dedication. Thanks for this great video.
Thanks for watching
you know I just love the smile on Mays face when she shoots a good gun. you can tell the ones she likes vs the one she really doesn't. She's a treasure.
Had the pleasure of seeing one of these beauty's in person, in the back of a pawn shop, while I was broke. :(
4 real.
"It's not like they were jumping horses out of trees"
Thanks Othias, now I have a mental image of soldiers throwing horse cavalry out of trees onto soldiers marching below.
This must become a teeshirt.
Favorite part of this episode: "Alright, fine - they're the same fucking gun." OMG. I love you guys. Literally laughed out loud. Wonderful.
“They’re the exact same bleeping gun!”
M1 ping before the M1. Nice!
Thank you so much for positively, once and for all clearing up the difference between carbine and rifle :D
Please, don't ever stop posting these videos, having way too much fun!
Cool to see the huge differences between the two rifles, or sorry carbine and rifle, many changes you covered there
very important
@@Candrsenal Well, you forgot the biggest difference, the color of the wood (stain?).
Thanks for showing the Gewehr 88 with the improved clip. Really nice to see if function as it was designed!
I'm really glad you readdressed the Gewehr 1888, I was watching that episode the other day and wondering if you got an original clip yet. I've been looking forward to this episode and now I know the next two will be great too. I really love the rifle episodes most even though all the different handguns are interesting too. Looking forward to Mark's next episode as well. Keep up the good work and if you do some other funding campaign let us know. We would always be interested in C&Rsenal merchandise if that's an option.
Thank you
Second that, great gifts for friends.
I know right
As always, I love everything you guys do. Thank to the whole production team (however many of you guys there may be).
Another wonderful episode great JOB! Can't wait for more xD KEEP IT UP!!!! C&Rsenal!
I look forward to the correction episode when they discover the storied history of the Galician Light Hedge and Shrub Horse Brigade.
Expert cavalry tree-jumper-outers.
They fought in the East. No shame in this research fail.
;)
damn.
I am so glad to have a clear difference between a carbine and a rifle now :)
Every night I look forward to oiling my collection and binge watching the trinity...C&Rsenal, Great War, Forgotten Weapons.
Another great video thank you guys lots of information well presented. Always nice to get the shooters reviews as well.
It's been a busy few days, but now I get to watch some C&Rsenal and the world is good again.
Ah, a new C&Rsenal vid so that I can get put to sleep by Othias' voice. Its meant as a compliment.
You guys just keep getting better!
thank you! I've been waiting for this one! love your videos, keep up the good work
Thanks!
Fantastic show as always guys!
One of the cutest little carbines I've ever seen! So adorable and tiny.
everything about this is pleasant
bless forgotten weapons telling me about you guys, and you guys as well just for being so antiquated and well done
Glad you're enjoying it!
...and they say television channels are dying.
With awesome stuff like this for free online, yeah, the old media isn't even on the playing field!
How does it feel, killing the old giants with pure awesomeness?
I got rid of television in 2006. I haven't missed it once.
You never realize how true the term 'idiot box' is until you're separated from it.
Just the exact rifle my great great uncle used in ww1. He was part of a train battalion, responsible for the supply of the frontline troops. He worked with horses, so he had a carbine, but he also was a rear echelon troop, so it didn't had to be the newest weapon.
The video quality of this episode is great Othais.
Thanks
My 2 favorite things about these videos “War Were Declared” and let’s turn it over to Mae 🤩
love this show! I've rewatched the entire series 7-11 times!
Commander Smith Jesus that's more than I've seen them.
The history's amazing, the host has a voice of butter and the Mae is just a badass
I love the time and effort they spent making it possible to stack weapons, while I was in the military we just leaned them onto SAWs
This was halirious, well done all keep up the good work :D
Excellent. as always!
That bolt handle is so wonderful
Thank God I have a half day of school tomorrow
"It's the same f***ing gun" ... thanks guys, I needed a laugh today.
Great Show guys, back in 1994 an Army mate of mine brought one of these out to my farm. Being a gun but he thought I might like to shoot it. Now the 88 had a story, his grandfather brought it back,down his trousers!on inspection it wasMINT.So we cleaned it, test fired it on the bench.Then we shot about 20 wild boar. Now I must give him a call and see if he wants to part with it. Thanks again for a fantastic review.
Thanks for all your hard work! A lot of unsubbed people are _really_ missing out on some fantastic content.
55 minutes of fun and guns!!
You guys are hilarious!!! I really enjoy watching your videos.
Really loving Mae's vest and ruffled shirt, awesome look.
classicMaxReviews Thanks! That vest is one of my favs.
Laughed out loud. Thanks
I recently ran across an Eduard Kettner custom built Mauser on either a Karabiner or Gewehr 91 (the bolt handle was left alone). This isn't so much a sporterized Mauser, but a totally custom bit rifle using a Bohler-Stahl barrel, custom wood stock (has a pistol grip so Mae would like it), engraving, stipling, gold inlay all over the darn thing, an express rear sight and custom quick release claw mounts and double set triggers. The darn thing is a work of art built on an exceptionally smooth action. The only thing wrong, is it's on a gun that didn't get rebored so ammo has to be .318" (slugged the barrel for the gun shop it's at). But what a wonderful gun.
The Gewehr 91 firing sequence has a whole new level to it after seeing the extent of repairs done to it's stock. First time watching I thought it was received and fired in mint condition, okay okay- in service ready condition .
I rather liked showing the gun in running condition first
of course, but showing the process to get it there was illuminating
"And Airshipmen, which is a cool new job" I love you Othais.
The ring from the strip being launched out is almost as soothing as the M1 Garand's ring.
I have come here to see the "war were declared" montage...
And I left satisfied.
What a gorgeous rifle. Look at that wood!
That 3D animation. Very Nice. Still counting the days until we get to the venerable Mosin platform.
I don't know why but I NEED that gun (that bolt handle....... the nose cap...... ITS GLORIOUS.)
Yeah like wow. I really really like the aesthetic of this gun. It's just so unique looking. It's like someone took a Manlicher and mated it to an SMLE.
It is an utterly _adorable_ little carbine, in the same vein as the Carcano moschettos.
At 3:15 it's crazy how much difference there is between the heavy round nose bullets and the lighter spitzer ones. At 500 meters the spitzers have the same amount of drop as the round noses have at 800 meters, if the sight markings are anything to go by. Just goes to show how important bullet technology is along with the rifles.
And i was wondering what i'd watch while writing my essay... silly me.
"And it's not like they were jumping horses out of trees" I laughed way harder than I have any right to.
Merry Christmas Osirus. 🎄
Jeez, what a beautiful rifle.
I watched this one like a normal, functional human. Sitting on a couch. Not wearing pants.
FirstStrikeSabre Nobody needs pants.
Aye, a proper Scot wears kilts!
This comment became so much better in 2020/21.
The waistband of sweatpants are really one giant pocket if you think about it.
"And war were declared" is my favorite phrase on TH-cam. :-
I cracked up with you guys keeping straight face while talking about them being totally different! LOL
Props to you guys for your self discipline (and remind me to never play poker with you) LOL
What?! This didn't make the top 5? Philistine's! German rifles are my favorite...I may be biased. Thank you for another wonderful episode. I hope you can continue.
I always cringe when I see episodes that are almost an hour long or longer, but without exception, I can never stop watching your videos. If I don't have time to watch in one sitting, I just do it in chunks. Great stuff as always! That is an understatement but now I don't have time to type out specifics! :-)
I'm sorry, we just go until we run out.
When Othias said stalking rifle, I realized that the CZ 527 in 7.62x39 Carbine and the CZ 550FS in 6.5x55 or .308 Winchester are the modern day descendents of the Kar.88
That wood. It's amazing.
Great video! I didn't know anything about these before. The shape of that front cap reminds me a lot of the Turkish conversions of the Berthier rifles. Speaking of Berthiers, how come the 5-shot version (carbine or rifle) didn't make it somewhere on Mae's list? And further speaking of that list, it'd be cool to have a page where her final verdict for each gun is listed. I sometimes can't remember, so a handy reference page would be swell! Thanks for the hard work!
It caught my attention hearing Mae describe a “recoil Queen”
"He he" (ping) "That never gets old"
I lost it when Othais said it’s the same F***ing gun lol
Damnit, why does war always have to be declared so GOSH DARN LOUDLY. I always have to be ready to reach for the volume control.
Still love this series!
GiggleBlizzard well war is racket.
I must confess that I'd like to see the clip eject and Mae's smile in slow-mo!
I liked the rural choir in Mae's background... Again.
One of my dream guns!
What a nifty little gun!
So what round should you shoot from it ? I have one, but not sure what rounds to get, and need a clip still.
I've got one of these, picked up a few days ago. I'm trying to find a round that I can fire through it without worrying too much about it blowing up in my hands. Any specific brands of ammo I should use? It has the S rollstamp.
Meg suddenly for no particular reason found herself on a camping holiday at the banks of the Rhine .
I really like the design of this carbine, for some reason. i really like the N-bloc clip, too . . . maybe it's the Garand-esk ping it makes when it's ejected. I really wish I could find one of these available . . . it's a shame that it seems to be one of many rare rifles of that era.
I just found this rifle in my brothers storage unit in a wood box and traded him something for it, it's missing the front site guard but seems to cycle smoothly and be in working order. Can you tell me what round I should get for it, it does have the s stamp. Do you think I should let a gunsmith look at it first?
Many gun shops have education classes, as well as training classes you should send out a flyer they can post to draw new viewers
As a German I'm not sure if I Object to 22:14.
But as always, great Production Value for such a Small Channel, deserving of more, keep up the Good Work.
literally every song and motto from WWI is a problem in Germany it seems.
Nah just their national anthem because hitler abused the ''Deutschland Deutschland über alles'' part (although it should be noted it's not forbidden to sing the whole anthem they just don't do it and it gets frowned upon by everyone around them) Wacht am Rhein is ok Heil dir im Siegerkranz aswell.
We also have a series of shirts with the official mottos of WWI and it had some German issues as well.
Huh interesting as far as i know noone has aproblem with ''gott mit uns'' and other things
Over here in jolly old England I'm just about to start my day. Looking forward to collapsing on my sofa to watch this after Work/Gym.
See ya then.
How did it go?
It went very well, and really enjoyed this episode. The anecdote about the kaiser is so "Old World" I love it.
Keep up the good work!
How did you manage to fix the repo enbloc? I recently got myself a kar 88 and I'm having the same feeding issue with the enbloc
So whatever happened to Mae's voiceovers of shooting segments?
I believe we felt they were redundant so we got rid of them
Pronounciation of "Landgendarmerie" was on point tbh :)
They also converted a bunch of kar88s to shoot the Spitzer round. They rebarreled them with a stronger steel barrel stamping them with letters nm on the side of the receiver and of course the S on top of the receiver
Mae is such a damn good shot. No wonder why she is the designated shooter.
hey i have a VC.schilling suhl rifle 1890.it says kar 88 on the bolt reciver .and behind the rear sights it has the s stamped on it.and there is a k stamped underneath it can anyone tell me what the k stamp is
Damnit.... now I want to add one to my collection.
I've been watching your earlier videos lately and they suffer from the short length and lack of "war were declared"
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Kudos to Mae for pronouncing "Garand" the way John Garand pronounced it. On the other hand, he doesn't appear to have cared how it was pronounced as long as it was bought.
Well just fine, now I have to wait till the evening to be able to watch this. Just great.
Excellent presentation you guys. You have a new subscriber. And, by the greatest coincidence, I just acquired a KAR 88. I'm hoping you'll share what load you're feeding it. Thanks
Dude you should make a video of you shooting one of these in an indoor range.
Will you make just a short video showing off the Kar 98 A but not with in this series?
Regarding the clips, the metallurgy and heat treatments in these components is essential. Just bending sheet metal won't work. I had some 3 shot Berthier clips marked "Santa Fe Arms" (likely made in 1950's or early '60s since that's when that company was around) that worked poorly. Once I acquired original French military clips, rifle functioned correctly. I wish I'd known you needed an original Commission 88 clip as I obtained one in a junk parts box recently [and also an M93 Dutch clip] and I'd have sent it to you.
I definitely agree, and dont worry that Dutch clip is up next
Man, en bloc clips are really effective because they speed up loading time 😃
Its my birthday, i got a quarter pounder with cheese, an behold one of my favorite TH-cam channels is preventing me from sleeping. This is the life.
Happy birthday. Give me the burger.
Does anyone know where I can find a bolt for one of these rifles?
the question I have on the bolt handle is simply have you guys tried it with gloves? I know cavalry used to be pretty gung ho on gloves and I wonder if that negates the issues with the bolt handle