All THOR Scenes + Secret Cutscenes - God of War Ragnarok PS5 (4K 60FPS)
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- God of War Ragnarok All Thor scenes / All Thor cutscenes and death
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@@Thejrrg bruh
I thought I hated him cause of what he did to the giants and other realms. It turned out he's not the problem. His father is. He became my fav character in ragnarok.
I think a part of him regrets killing the giants. That could be why he drinks so much.
Is a Monster!
nah brok the goat
@@dylanshaft8936 He boasts about killing Giants while he's drunk.
@@Bengeance That was the Mead Talking(Jokes aside) Thor probably has some regret But he didn't know any better Odin told him to kill all the giants in Midgard and he did He may like the battle but on his eyes it wasn't enough for fatherly love from odin because all Odin wanted was to know Everything and what was in the Rift but what do I know
Thor looks like a calm and reasonable kind of guy.
If the moment calls for calm
@@ProGrayRaven I'd say the moment calls for calm yeah
@@antihero6988 took him awhile to calm tf down and finally listen to kratos
I believe the reason he stop drinking and try to stay calm was because of what he did to his sons.
Only when he is sober. He is mean drunk.
MCU thor got nothing compared to this thor. This thor is so badass and scary. Strong af.
He is also more accurate to the original mythology.
Not to mention he sent a giant ass snake back in time
No shit their two different thors
@@lugzthegriffin287 shame we couldn't see more of that instead we get a 2s clip of them fighting in the distance...the whole ragnarok section was underwhelming
@@SafMan89 fr :(
I like how Heimdall SAYS he isn't afraid of Thor, but that confrontation says otherwise.
I wouldn’t say afraid, but he definitely does get intimidated by him. He really doesn’t like Thor and isn’t afraid to show it though.
wtf did he see in his eyes?
@@AlphaKnight-hg2jq since he said "Thor is a sick man" it implies that Thor was gonna clap his cheeks.
@@Ultimascale4 Thor finna give Heimdall that Grecian treatment
He heimdell didn't want smoke with thor..
They developed Thor's character so well. By the last act it was beautiful to see him change. Think it was a mistake to kill him off directly after
maybe he can cheat death if people unite to bring back thor in some way
When Odin is done with his tools he casts them aside
I think also they messed up killing him off. Too early too fast . At least a redemption arc
Unfortunately the game fell into the old cliché of "bad guy turning good to die soon after". He could've lived and left with his family or something. Maybe even make a surprise appearance in the future.
@@LucDutra92 True, but seeing Odin kill his own son served to further reinforce just how evil he was. I think it would be uncharacteristic of Odin to just let Thor walk away. It also showed Thor's daughter that what Atreus has been telling her was all true.
Thor is just like old Kratos. Following the orders of another God that eventually become an emotionless killing machine but this time Kratos was able to stop him before he became more of a monster
But he isnt tho,Kratos never forgave the gods after Ares tricked him into killing his family he always hated them,whereas thor couldnt stand up to his father even to the very end thor is strong in the body weak in the mind.
This is a reason thor's death irks me, Not only does thor go through an arc but the ending is also a perfect capstone to Kratos' arc. The man manages to help another destroyer realize he has to be better, that he CAN be better, and then odin just ganks him.
@@nomad1639 idk the OP said before he became even more of a monster so far sif is still alive and is trying to show Thor that Oden is bad if Oden thought he could get rid of sif without consequences he probably would do it especially since she is his most vocal critic. A god causing the death of a loved sounds pretty similar to kratos story.
@@snipershot6014 Similar on the surface but not concretely you forget that kratos was first of all born as a mortal and doesnt have the connection with the gods the same way thor does meanwhile thor has been bullied and used by his father his entire life.
@@nomad1639 yeah I do agree there not exactly the same but they have some similarities
A major theme of the Norse games is parenthood, particularly the relationship between parent and child. Thor is therefore one of the most interesting characters because he's both a parent and a child, we see him shaped by his abusive, manipulative father, we see him mourn his sons, and we see him try to do well by his remaining daughter. He parallels both Kratos, as a violent god beginning to reconsider his ways for the sake of his family, and Atreus, as the half-giant son of an impossible-to-please god. Had he not died, (or escaped death, as Kratos did many times) Thor might have followed in Kratos' footsteps and found balance the way Kratos has, though, like Kratos, it would likely have taken him quite a journey. (That said, having Einherjar Thor, Baldr, Magni, and Modi show up during the finale in some form would have been glorious and terrifying, no matter what role they played.)
His father taught him his mind was worthless. He was Odin's weapon, his tool, and his only thoughts should be how to most quickly and effectively enact Odin's will. This is why Kratos challenging him to be more, to be better, both directly with his words and indirectly by his choices, enrages him. If he _can_ be more, if he _can_ think for himself, if he does get to choose to be more than a destroyer...how can he face what he's done? He wiped out an entire people, _his_ entire people, for Odin. He sent his sons to their deaths, at Odin's command. He nearly _killed_ his son, out of fear of disappointing Odin. He has to double down on what he's known, insist Kratos is the one making a mistake, that Kratos is wrong, otherwise he has to face the unbearable cost his thoughtlessness, and his father's abuse, has brought down on him and those he loves.
I’m not reading all of that
Great analysis!
Bro that's a great analysis
Your words cut to the heart of things. Well said!
@@Ben-jy6uf your loss
The way Odin groomed all his children:
Giving Heimdall, the arrogant teenager, perfect sight and stroking his ego so that he worships the All Father.
Poisoning Baldur against Freya through sheer bitterness, trying to learn the secret of his invulnerability, making him out to be the sympathetic parent, when all along he just wanted Baldur’s gift for himself.
And then there’s Thor, half giant, cut off from his heritage by wiping out his own people, trying to win his father’s approval. And all the while, Odin made sure anything he couldn’t do to the giants of Jotunheim, he did to Thor, turning him into something that only existed to be controlled. It’s no accident his hatred of giants included himself. He really was Odin’s worst victim.
heimdall is an adult, not a teenager. he is even older than baldur
Don’t forget Tyr as well: the reasonable diplomat out all of his children who goes against the Aesir way of life which would be trying to have peace and cooperation with other beings in the 9 realms and him giving Odin the finger by helping the remaining Giants escape Midgard gets to be imprisoned and made out to be a dead man
Adolecente arrogante? Tenía como 27 años de apariencia.
@Yuriko776 I think he meant that he had the mentality of a teenager. I mean, he doesn't act like a mature and responsible adult.
I low key wish him and Kratos fought Odin together in the final battle
I Loki wish the same
we all did :(
I would want that too, but since Kratos killed both of his sons, Thor had extreme negative hate for Kratos and wanted revenge for it. It would be similar to how Freya fought at the beginning of the game, where Freya attacked Kratos for choosing to kill her son to save her
@@mashupmusic4459
Well technically it was Atreus/Loki who killed Modi.
@@mianlo2624 Yes and Kratos killed Magni as well tho. I completely forgot that Atreus killed Modi with Faye's knife but Kratos was the one who made him weak.
5:37 & 6:53 Whenever Odin comes near Atreus, Kratos grabs his axe! Never noticed that before
You've got a good eye! Well, unlike Odin, you've got TWO good eyes. Nice detail.
Kratos's muscle memory + dad instincts kick in
If only we had more screentime of him specially with kratos man ......
Sadly, it will probably never happen with Kratos because Thor hated him throughout the whole game until he finally realizes his mistake that got him killed in the second boss with him.
If you mean that Kratos and Thor would fight together on screen, then yeah, we will never get to see that in God of War.
I really wished they didn't have to kill Thor like that. I hope we get a spin-off game with this Thor as the protagonist
@@angelserenademore chances of getting a spin off Atreus game than Thor.
Gotta admit: Odin's got a badass man cave
Yeah but Odin himself kinda destroyed it at the end of the game while going against him lol
In the first game, he was depicted as pure evil, enjoying what he is. But he could've actually been a great father and husband if he didn't keep taking Odin's side
I think he was, and what changed was his sons death.
I absolutely love how they made Thor in the game, and designing him off how he really looked in the real norse mythology. Especially Ryan that voiced him was amazing at it as well. I say that this is the best Thor ever. Even better than the Mavel one
Ryan Hurst is so very talented. Loved him in SOA and The Walking Dead. 😊
The marvel one is cool and hot but he’s a superhero in my mind not a Norse god like this one
Marvel is is the worst version of Thor ever in media bruh 🤣
He's just a superhero with norse God name
Heimdall's face when Odin says: "of course he means to betray me" is great! He was like: wait, you know? Then why?!
Heimdall is VERY shortsighted, where Odin is very longsighted (or tries to be with his collection of prophecies).
@@potato1341 This. The irony with Heimdall is that all that perceptiveness has caused him to become arrogant and never take a second look, nor think things through.
Odin doesn't want Atreus to be killed there because he wants to use him and because... well, ask the greek pantheon about what a great idea it is to kill Kratos' loved ones. Oh, wait. You can't. Because they're all fucking dead because of that great idea.
Thor is just a so fckn well written character. I love him for being so accurate to Norse mythology
Thor: don't you know WHAT I HAVE DONE?
Kratos: Boi i massacred an entire pantheon.
Bat_Mobile And thor killed a whole realm full of giants and who knows how much more he has done
@@dragontear1000 what is a realm of fodders to the rulers of the Greek pantheon?
@@Marshkoon I dunno maybe a lot of innocent people, who just so happened to have been your own. And ending up massacring a ton due to your horrible father. Both seem pretty horrific to me.
The fight in the tavern is easily one of the best cutscenes in the game. You know the developers and choreographers had a blast mo-capping that.
13:11 Knock it off
16:23 Thor reminds Atreus of what happened to his sons
22:23 Thor is drunk with Mead
29:55 I'll be fine
30:24 Thor pukes because Thor has drunked too many Mead
32:53 You kill my sons
34:03 The fight with Thor begins
36:40 Don't you know what I've done?! Yes!
38:21 Odin kills Thor
14:51 The fact that Thor just jumpscares Odin like this, the scene puts a smile on my face.
@@f.e.areproduce5298 "and this stealthy side of beef" lmao
Thor had to see Kratos fight him like he was trying to save Atreus, just like Thor would have fought to save his sons.
Once Thor had the measure of Kratos love (via fighting) he told him then his blood debt was paid.
Thor: can I come in?
Me: hell no! you blew a hole through my roof!
Thor: I brought mead
Me: boy prepare the table
If I remember, it was implied that Thor killed his mother. Which could explain the reason Odin treats him as such. I only wish the game could have explored that for more character development.
Can't believe Kyle won
Don't think that's the case though
I believe there was a shrine that mentioned Fjorgyn being hidden “where the Thunderer couldn’t find her”.
I might be wrong but remember either Thor or Odin mention that Thor killed his own mother for her being a giant.
I wonder if she didn't die during labor, or maybe Thor accidentally killed her when his powers were coming in.
It's cute when Thor asks "Don't you know what I've done?". I mean, yeah you destroyed a race. Kratos destroyed a land. With all the people, all the gods, everything. Though Artemis and Aphrodite are still missing.
What about Circe, Nike, Amphitrite, Aphrodite, Triton, Morpheus, Nyx, Hypnos, Glaucus, Apollo(not Helios), Hestia, Dionysus, Aristaeus, Asclepius and more?
@@dawipeach8948 Circe was in her island. She sings with Sebastian, if anything survived the loosening of Oceanos. Same for Triton, Amphitrite and all the sea gods and beings. Morpheus and Hypnos need people to manifest, so yeah, they are gone too. Nyx is night, which with the death of Helios means it's eternally night. So one could say she has become all powerful when there is none there. Hestia, besides being an opai waifu, is the goddes of home and hearth... good luck finding one, so dead too. Aristaues was the god of cultivating things... Asclepius was a doctor god. All these aspects need people to survive. There are none. Dionysus... well, he might be somewhere getting shitfaced, but who knows.
Fact is, the Greek pantheon is gone, the powers that bind them the land gone... and the land is a clusterfuck. I doubt minor deities could have survived, that is why we have Artemis and Aphrodite in the MIA instead the KIA list.
Maybe it was a good thing Kratos didn’t fight Nyx.
Nyx was not only a primordial god, but a god that ZEUS HIMSELF was afraid of, a god Zeus could do nothing against. That alone shows the difference between them.
@@Pastamist It took the concept of hope, all his Godly Magic and Weapons, Pandora, destruction of the Flame of Olympus, Kratos at his full rage and Even more to kill Zeus. Now imagine what it would take to kill Nyx
7:07 this is what went through Kratos' mind "the promise of the gods is as useless as the gods themselves", this is from God of War 2 when Zeus was stabbing Kratos to death. And he knows that "you can never trust the gods".
To people hating Thor, keep in mind Thor is enslaved to Odin, just like how Kratos was enslaved to Ares and then the other gods of Olympus.
Drunk uncle thor was a stunning arc
I love at 13:30 during the interaction you can hear Thor’s theme bumping up its such a nice detail and it makes you think that Thor is the shit.
Someone’s home got messed up by thunderstorms while you’re outside and you’re freaking asking them if you can come in.😂
Odin: * give a long speech, negotiating for a "peace" with kratos*
Kratos: NO
this dude, I swear
I loved thor so much in this game, he was a badass, definitely my favorite after Heimdall. He was just a broken person, he was the reflection of young kratos, he is what kratos would have become if he did the bidding of the gods forever. He is just broken and wants redemption, he had a bad childhood and odin just treated him like crap, made him a drunk who cared about nothing but destruction and killing. He wronged his own sons and after their deaths he was broken even more. And when he finally decided to stand against his father it was too late. Damn I wished him and kratos teamed up against odin together, both of them having gameplay without atreus and freya in the mix and just comboing odin together, would have been sick. Loved him nonetheless. I don't Think I can have any feelings toward the mcu thor after this
One of the best and most interesting characters of this 20-25 hour game and he has little over half an hours worth of screentime. He was the character i was looking forward to the most from GoW 2018 and we barely even get to see much of him. And as soon as he starts to show some progression, he's just gone.
I have a feeling Thor's story isn't over.
He is dead. His story is over
@@dawipeach8948 oh yeah.... because people *totally* haven't come back to life before in the gow franchise
@@davidhamilton6883 yea Thor is the only god that Faded away when killed the other ones didn't even Odin didn't fade away like that but thor did it's similar to Athena in the og gow
Thor’s story is over, but not Odins.
One of His birds still alive
@@tyronb2541 His birds are just his tattoos and pets. Odin’s soul is destroyed and was cast into oblivion, so he doesn’t exist anymore.
14:50
Odin: THOR?! Get down here!
Thor: All-Father.
Me: JESUS CHRIST! Scared me too Odin, how tf did he do that?
Odin: who is jesus?
The subtleties of Thor and drinking on a second viewing of this game are so good.
Thor deserves redemption too
He did get it in the end. Thor alone dissolved into green stuff, the same way Athena did after sacrificing herself
@@ImkokraChan He dissolved into blue lightning, so no afterlife like Athena. 38:39
@@flawless5499 too different mythos tho
@@ImkokraChan athena got taken over by something else... i really hope that is not in store for Thor
I allways love how thor wanted to have a fair fight with kratos but you can see all the sadness and pain in his face like he just wants to retire but odin wont let him
to tell an alcoholic that they’re “no fun anymore” after they quit is one of the most fucked up things someone can say, let alone a father to his son!
6:21
*Atreus takes Mimir out of his hiding place*
Thor: He lost weight
Me: And you haven’t, Thor?
I get why they did it, but I cant not be disappointed that they killed him in the end. I really like his character development and it’s sad that he won’t be shown off (unless they somehow revive him)
These gods got humour 😂
I've said this in a different video, but I'll say it here as well. Because it's fitting.
Hmm. Maybe an interesting observation. Kratos taught Atreus always to think and be logical. Thor, inadvertently, taught him to feel and not always think. Both of those things are makings of both a great warrior and a great person.
Kratos taught him to be cautious and use his mind. Thor taught him to trust his instincts and use his gut.
I wonder if Thor reminds Kratos of Hercules and that's why he holds back so much in their fights. He sees in Thor the same manipulation by Odin that Zeus was to Hercules and wants so much to break Odin's hold over him
11:57 thor definitely felt that punch...
look at kratos health bar, thor really killed him, ressurect him and give him half health
I honestly think his death is the most tragic. It upsets me more than anyone else's. He seemed like he had the potential to be a real decent and loving person if he weren't so terribly abused all the time (the way he talks to his wife behind closed doors and touches her so tenderly, his obvious love and care for his daughter's safety while still prioritizing her life goals, his rage over his sons' deaths, his... I'll call it charisma frankly because his humor is charmingly dry). If not for Odin, he could have been a good god the whole time. And now, because of Odin, we'll never get to see him become one.
You know Thor kind of looks like Robert Oberst (strongman competitor) not only in body structure but their faces too, hell even their voices are not that different.
Seeing Kratos and Thor fight makes me think of what Kratos would be if he was born in Midgard instead of Sparta
35:44
OG Kratos sound effect
The ghost of sparta really want to f up Thor.
13:36
thor : look into my eyes
ghost rider : oh no you don't...tell me u didn't just say that
I know that some of you were expecting Thor to lool like the one from Marvel, but I don't blame you. Now, let us enjoy this version of Thor and learn more about the Norse Mythology while Playing this great game, shall we?
I'm more surprised with Odin. He is less than his popular mainstream image and more of a.. mastermind and his speech pattern, damn. not what I expected at all
Cringe
Cringe.
I hate that thor dies, he goes through a genuine redemption arc learning to stand up to the very reason he's a destroyer and he dies for it.
0:25 When my grandpa orders a pizza but also has dementia
Thor was awesome. Abs those first few scenes hit way different when you know his backstory…
sif : "odin sent our sons to their death, he doesnt want to protect or even care about us, what if thrud's next?"
thor : *pointing mjolnir at atreus "you..."
sif : "dammit thor"
Did anyone else notice Thor’s aversion to thinking?
During the bar fight, he said “thinking too much.” also, when he & Atreus went on a mission to recover the mask piece, every time Atreus would mention thinking Thor would tell him that him thinking was a problem.
Just for the end, Odin to tell him “You don’t think. I think. You kill!”
excellent writing
I Didn't Want Him To Die To Be Honest.
it’s a little weird to me that if i recall this mjolnir is not sealed to where only the worthy can lift it but it’s just really heavy, but if that’s the case how does it sit so fine on Kratos wood table without breaking it when Kratos who can smash boulders can’t stop it, but only slightly redirect it
How can kratos lift whole bouldera and buildings but he himself doesn't crush the table he sits on?
the answer is don't think about it
Like the Leviathan Axe and Draupnir Spear, Mjolnir is a mystical, dwarf-forged weapon. Their behavior explicitly disobeys conventional logic, and conventional logic can't be used to explain their nature.
The logic is that Kratos couldn't lift it because Thor did not allow it with his will every time he threw it.
If u put mjolnir on an elevator., it will still go up. Thor literally hung it on a coat rack once
Because it had momentum when kratos tried to grab it
It wouldn’t be a Viking race if they didn’t have a good ol bar fight😂😂 that was epic
Odin first showing up to see Heimdall and Loki is always so funny. "GASP. Loki is that true, you're a little trickster?" And then Odin forgets that he only has the one eye when he turns to talk to Heimdall so his depth perception is screwed 😂😂
As much as I hate Odin.... Sif is just as manipulative. Guilttripping Thor over and over again. For all I can see Thor was aware off how dangerous it was to stand up to Odin. So he was stuck between a rock and a hard place. In the end it wasn't Sifs arguments or Thruds pleas that won him over. It was Kratos, who had sacrificed his destructive nature for the sake of his son, that got throu to him.
Well... we might be stretching the definition of manipulative to the point of meaninglesness here. She is more like... convincing him.
It was more like Thor was denying everything. Sif constantly was trying to get him to see Odin would throw Thrud away just like Magni and Modi, but he was convinced he could earn his father's love if he killed when he was told.
It's why you can hear his voice Crack when he says, "Sif was right about you."
My mum leaving my bedroom, thinking I'm gonna do my homework: "Don't take all day..."
Me to my schmeat: "... 'Bout time." *SMACK*
the riff that plays when thor starts walking toward the house says a million words
I dead just figured out what Thor was gonna do to Heimdall.
He was gonna gonna choke him with his left hand, rip off Heimdall’s arm with his right hand. Next he was gonna take Atreus’ arrow ( while still in Heimdalls severed hand) and gouge out his eyesballs and eat them.
Heimdalls a mind reader hence him dropping the arrow and THEN proclaiming Thor to be a sick man
-BillyWolfgang
oh man i really hoped Thor would have survived. So that he could finally redeem himself infront of his family. i know he kinda did that by going against odin and listening to Kratos.
but they deserved much more time with a redeemed Thor.
i just love how kratos blocked alcohol from atreus
22:23 I don't know about your dad but all of the scene with drunken Thor in the bar gives me flashbacks. Strikes hard. Seeing the greate man like this. Shame. I wish I talked more to him.
Thor sounding like Thanos sounds very cool
Oh shit he does
@@tonyfergusonisthetypeofguy142 Yeah he sounds like him but he is Beta from ¨The Walking Dead¨ series 🤣🤣
Thor is such a complicatedly great character, very human and relatable. I hope he returns in the games in some way
Kratos would've taken the deal, I think, were it not for Odin mentioning Freya. In Kratos' eyes, Freya was his problem, not Odin's. Up to this point, he only had anecdotes to go by for what kind of person Odin is, and he wasn't personally involved. As soon as Odin self-inserted himself into Kratos' inner circle, which included Freya, regardless of her rage, that was when he distrusted him.
Odin has 0 fucking hesitation killing his own son the second he stopped being useful he really is the ultimate bastard
And THEN proceeds to blame everyone else for it.
If Kratos enters the MCU realm and sees Thor
Kratos:hmmm Thor you lost weight
Thor:uhhhhhh
"Thor, get down here."
"All-Father."
Funniest scene in the game
I’m sorry but odins line at 15:02 made me laugh 😂😂
Stealthy side of beef..... i cant see that scene enough where thor sneaks up on odin and scares him.
If in the next game we get the story of the rift and the "God-heaven" we could have Thor back
13:12 now that is fucking scary
🎶 thinking too muuuuuuuch🎶
thor's facial expression is awesome his eyes movement
Also, we must appreciate Thor's bravery. He knew what Kratos did. Kratos was a legend even in the Norse pantheon. We can assume that Odin didn't dare go to Greece as he knew those gods had powerful magic and weapons,etc. Yet thor still approached kratos. No fear. Knowing exactly what kratos did to the greek pantheon and some titans. Odin was so obsessed with prophecy that he led himself and his son to their deaths
I don’t know if anyone else noticed this but at 8:37. There’s this odd moment where the character slide in a position for a cutscene. You see it a lot in the fights with Baldur in the previous game. But now the Developers made them almost impossible to spot by blending it with characters making fast movement like how Kratos swung his shield before pushing Thor into a wall. It just amazes me for some reason
First encounter Kratos lands 6 ineffective hits. Second encounter Kratos hits Thor twice and had to hold on to Thor. Those two hits were quite effective.
Is it me or God of War has more jokes in it cuz Thor made me laugh gettin his hammer out the tavern 😂😂
Sif is pointing out how it's Odin who is the problem... but Thor still goes after Atreus lmao
Shows the recurring theme of people not handling their grief properly
I like how when he stops heimdall u can here his fight music like he’s bouta kick his ass
the first fight with thor really was the best fight of the game
When watching this for the first time (12:26) I thought that we could finally see the true power of old kratos… gues we will never see that happening I just want that raw power and strength to come out of him
in the background when thor & kratos meet for the first time. huginn & muginn can be seen discussing where mimirs head is
They make kratos look so small in god of war Ragnarok😅
I noticed that Thor uses Mjolnir with his left hand and not his right which was a nice detail
I’d drink Mead with Thor anyday of the week
Kratos sees himself in Thor, when he sees Thrud, parallel to himself of being one's ( ares) destroyer . That's why he wants to convince Thor in the end.
This Thor vs. the Game of Thrones Mountain, now that's a fight
Atreus just picking up the cups and drying the floor up from the spilt mead while this is happening
The way Kratos looked at Atreus is way my dad use to look at me when I hit him on the back of his ankles with the shopping cart 🤣🤣
Stealthy side of beef hahaha how did I not catch that in game??
in the first scene with Thor, it seems like he secretly a Canadian, who else would be in that situation and say "can i come in? i got mead" it seems to be a very Canadian thing to say
13:41
Thor: you tell me -looks at the arrow-
i feel like he was gonna put that arrow where the sun dont shine XD
He looks at Mjolnir though.
@@Vayne_Solidor mjolnir is in his left side
I would have loved to see a sngry full power kratos with the same mentality as young kratos from GOW 3 dominate thor and Odin
Imagine three Gods giving you angry looks 💀
Kind of surprising he's not in the game for longer, though he is just a blunt weapon for Odin so it does make sense