John Smith Anime has no say in what and how physics work. Besides you making an anime about aircraft and it will be created by the same fucking people who made GuP. Now I am fucking pissed. I mean I am gonna have to switch good o'l IL-2 because of weebs. Thanks alot!
@SilverTalon007 Yes, I'm sure P-51s regularly exceeded critical alpha, stalled out and somehow managed to continue to maintain sufficient airflow over the control surfaces to complete the loop. That's totally how physics work.
The maneuver is possible in a documentary a Tuskegee man did it. Though when he did it there were two German planes he got a few bullets on one but eventually died. He didn't get a kill. I heard it when I was like 7 years old. I forgot the true story. I believe that was it.
surprised Lucas didn't put in a part where one of the pilots flew his P-51 into the Reichstag and fired proton torpedoes into its reactor core and blew up all the Nazis forever.
this is so american propaganda. later in the movie, they show the same p51ds maintaining level flight with 262s and manuvering like zeroes. my fuckin sides hurt.
US aircraft were generally built to high strength standards. Actually the P51 got redesigned in the H version to be less strong to save weight. The P51 did have a reputation, though, for the wings coming off. It was never fully resolved, but probably weak undercarriage locks causing them to deploy under high G sometimes.
I did some actual math and found that given the initial speed of 400kmh (111m/s), the deceleration time of 0.5sec and the fact that the plane stops completely during that maneuver, the acceleration would instead be: a = v / t = 222.2 m / s^2 = ~22g It appears that in the scene, the plane stops almost completely and then goes up a bit (which would definitely not be possible irl), thus we can consider the deceleration to be mostly happening along the horizontal axis. That means that the plane and the pilot suffered from a horizontal overload, not vertical, and humans have shown to be able to resist it quite well for short periods of time. In conclusion: I don't think that the deceleration would kill the pilot but it would likely be able to rip the wings off the plane. Update: I did some research and it appears that most fighter aircraft cannot sustain over 9g's of vertical overload because the airframe begins to break. That being said, since they are built for sustaining vertical overload, not horizontal, they, obviously, they cannot sustain more horizontal overload than vertical, and thus, the wings would almost definitely get ripped off.
Even if they stayed on by magic, the 51D tended to be a bit touchy in the pitch department. Pull back too hard on that stick and she'll depart. Do that with no power to recover. Well, nice knowing you. lol
@@herosjourney8725 the real maneuver in real life had a much wider turn. It’s possible with the p-51. I’ll break it down for you, engine heavy, tail light. If you fuck up the maneuver you stall out and are a sitting duck. The famous story of Richard candelleria was he did a desperate maneuver to get onto the 109s tail which was him cutting his throttle and kicking hard rudder to swing the p-51 around to get onto the 109s tail but he was lucky and the p-51 perfectly aligned with the bf109s flight path giving him a perfect shot. The turn couldn’t have been too tight obviously because he would have passed out to like 10000 Gs.
Hugo Stiglitz Well, first off, the MG 151 and MG FF's (20mm cannons on the Fw 190 A-5) were not meant to penetrate armor. Second off, the most armor a fighter plane usually has is like, 15-25mm plates, only installed in locations such as cockpit or engine, so there is nothing to penetrate. So technically, these guns have nothing to penetrate, so no need for any AP ammo for 20mm. Though, technically, these *Focke-Wulfs blow up a P-51's ass because Minengeschoß ammo is packed with explosive power. And in War Thunder (what I was talking about in the first place) BMG M2 seems to do way more damage than even 30mm MK 108 (those cannons on the Me 262) that HISTORICALLY could "shatter" a P-51's airframe instantley, but they sparkle alot.
We can correct the mistakes of past citizens. We today can honor those who fought bravely. And remember their sacrifice wasn’t a short term Investment; it was an investment for future generations like us to live on in their memory. The fact that they fought for a country that partially did not honor their sacrifice at that time means their sacrifice was greater than we could measure.
@@jlupus8804 This. Very much this. The US is a flawed nation to be sure, but it's those flaws, and how we work to correct them that make us a great nation. People like to point at our history of slavery and racism as reasons the Country sucks.... but to that end I say: We've worked to get rid of them. We fought a civil war because of slavery, which ultimately ended the practice in the US. We have made many great leaps towards ending societal racism in the US... But unfortunately, there are those who want racism to continue to exist, not because of their prejudices, but because their life work depends on it. You would think that when we elected a African American as POTUS (granted we could've made a better choice, but still), that groups like the NAACP would close their doors as their work was effectively done.... but no... they are still around, trying to find cases of racism where there isn't and bring that to the media who makes it worse. In the words of Morgan Freeman when asked how we can beat racism: "Stop talking about it". And he's right. If we stop acting like it's a big deal, and focus on the real issues of our lives.... we'll all be the better for it.
@@Tank50us I'm sorry, but that's a ridiculous and quite frankly insulting statement. Black people still face incredible systemic discrimination in America, including within sentencing, policing, housing, employment, voting, education and healthcare. Does not "acting like it's a big deal" fix any of these? All your argument boils down to is "there's been a black president, so shut up". All you do is deny the issue, which does nothing except ensure these injustices go ignored. Congratulations, you're actively helping racism survive
Wtf is this? This is by far the best looking visuals I have seen in any WW2 movie ever, and yet it's so utterly stupid. Poorest German voiceacting I've ever heard, holy fuck just pay some German hobo a hundred quid and he will do that better, how hard can it be? And there has been said enough about how ridiculously unrealistic this maneuver was. Yes it is a film, but it has to at least LOOK doable, otherwise it's just bullshit. American patriotic "murica" propaganda at it's finest.
***** Don't ever believe anything history channel shows you, at the very least when it's about anything USA related. That channel is so ridiculously patriotic it's not even fun anymore.
***** It's possible yes, I think it would only be a high Yoyo combined with a quick stall and the following hammerhead. However, the pilot would lose too much speed to have any chance of catching the German. And that that Luftwaffe pilot would surely not keep flying straight, making himself a perfect target. This maneuver can only be used defensively, I would say. And don't worry about your English, it's perfectly fine. I'm not a native speaker myself, but I can understand you :)
BoarhideGaming Actually, that maneuver is real. You're thinking then why didn't all pilots use this trick? Because there's a 80% chance of failing this maneuver.
Ryan | Spazzybacca it's also completely useless in combat because it won't be anything like in this movie. And where did you get that 80% from? Is that a recorded stat or did you just make this up the same way the film makers invented a new physics.
The P40's wing-loading is 37.5 lb/ft^2, 90% of the P51's 39. The Bf 109 G-6 (the one in this clip, and one of the most common) had a wingloading of 40 ft/lb^2, which was virtually the same. But the Messerschmidt was only 75% the weight of the Mustang, implying it would be able to withstand it better. A 190 couldn't, with a wingloading of 49 ft/lb. And the swept-wing design of the Flankers and Hornets would actually, in all likelihood, snap the wings if they did this at their typical speeds.
@@VF000O Yeah, this isn't a cobra though, he basically did a backflip. The Flanker could definitely perform a similar maneuver but not this tight. Still, it's a lot more plausible than a fucking P-51 doing it.
lol let me point out the problems here -the MG151 on the 109 would have shredded the P-51 if it scored that many hits -the P-51 cant perform anything close to a kulbit like in the video, even less in battle -the P-51's 50cals can usually not destroy a BF109 that fast, took quite a few hits, not just a short pass
RX-78 -2 well yeah but it's impossible for it to perform such a maneuver anyway, its just really fucked up lol even non aviation fans can see the lack of realism here
Pickleman Not a fighter, you have to spray it with M2s to kill a large target like a plane. They only kill human sized targets. This one shotkill crap is just pure american fantasy. The only areal weapon that could do that in WW2 was the german MK-108.
Pickleman it is you who is incorrect. Of course you can get a lucky hit, but it took in general a good burst to cause any kind of significant damage, not a little strafe to cause an instakill. The 50cal was becoming ineffective for air combat from 1943 onward with the newer faster, tougher and better armed fighters but the Americans still used them until the Korean war when the pilots finally begged for them to be removed. The only reason they didn't get rid of them earlier was because they didn't have any decent cannons in production to replace them with. The only cannon they had was the AN/M2 which is a cheap low quality copy of the British Hispano HS.404 until the M61 came, which they are still using to this day.
the P51 DOES actually have a siren whistle sound though when it flies overhead... Because of the bottom air intake... the others DO NOT sound like sirens...
lets not even begin on the part where one of the US pilots tanks over 6 30mm explosive cannon shells in a head on with a jet... its what I call "Black magic"
@@tic-tac9323 Given that the loads for .50cal belts included incendiary rounds, and that the pilot in question shot the torpedo launchers causing them to ignite and explode... It was a very real tactic in WW2 that US pilots would do against enemy ships. If they lacked any dedicated ordinance, they'd strafe the torpedoes hoping to get that lucky hit. One set of pilots did this in a dive against a Japanese Cruiser by firing down into the stacks which caused one of the boilers to explode and that crippled the ship. So, yeah, it's very possible to put a ship out of action using only HMGs, you just have to hit the right spot with the right bullet.
@@Tank50us - Nope... The only credited incident in which planes used machine guns to destroy a Navy Vessel was 4 P47's that strafed an Italian Ariete class destroyer that was being under the control of the DKM. The Vessel was not at combat stations and had no securities in place. It is believed that machine-gun fire made its way into a powder magazine due to the vessel not having hatches secured. There are no credited incidents of Japanese ships being cripple by machine gunfire. Also, help me understand something... I want to see if you understand the comedy of your claim... A pilot, diving at a Japanese cruiser was able to visually identify that the round from his flight traversed the funnel and destroyed a boiler... Diving at a cruiser... Being fired at the whole time. Flax and 20mm bursts all around them, while approaching at over 200kts... Having to pull out of the dive at 500ft MINIMUM or risk crashing... You're telling me that a pilot was able to visually confirm a boiler being destroyed, through a smoke funnel at 500ft with explosions all around him, whilst trying his best to pull out of a dive without crashing? Please... Provide sources haha XD
That spin maneuver was not shown correctly in the movie, but it can be done. Recently Guy Martin (motorcycle rider) was riding with a stunt pilot and they did that very maneuver, but plane literally flips forward and is pointed backwards. Did the Red Tails actually use this extraordinary maneuver? That's for each of us to believe or not.
oh.. and P-51 never flew cover INSIDE of the bomber formation. That is about the dumbest thing anyone can think of.. It should've been the Fw190s attacking the bomber formation while Bf109s provided cover and fought the P51s. This movie is just BS
Whatsup1492 you can just piss off, you don’t have to call out the realism in the movie, it’s a movie, not a documentary, so you don’t have to say jack shit
Daniel457 that doesn’t mean there has to be realism in the fighter and bomber formations, based on true events means the story, not the realism of the actions and scenes
Not only would his airframe been terribly damaged in that flip, but G-forces would have caused him to go unconsciousness to the point where he would wake up in an irrecoverable dive LOL
@@17MrLeon Yeah very realistic. A sudden bleed of speed within seconds only modern day fighters would be able to pull off. Maybye it was real but the pilot pulled WAY higher and dived
Ok, again this maneouver happened and it was pulled of in P51D. Why do you keep bringing matter that has been already put to the side. It did not have to be modern airplane. BECAUSE IT FUCKING HAPPENED EXACTLY LIKE THIS.
@@17MrLeon no way that shit is real. The plane would have either pulled upward in an arc or broken apart. No aircraft was ever made to do that. The pilot would instantly black out from massive G force. This was George Lucas crap at it's most stupid.
"Dark Blue World" made in 2001 - It is based on the events surrounding the Polish pilots that flew Spitfires for the RAF after Poland was invaded. Pretty good movie too. Some minor liberties, but overall quite accurate and the flying combat is a close to real as you can get. They even include actual gun camera footage.
judging by how tight the turn was, in reality the plane would have: A) Stalled, never finished the turn, or B) had its wings ripped off by G forces C) Pilot would have blacked out. D) All of the above. I think it was meant to look like a high yo-yo, but such a tight turn would require thrust vectoring like on the F-22, as the wings and tail would stall from the high angle of attack.
He was going pretty fast, wouldn't have instantly stalled. It would be B and C. It looked like he did basically a loop but just super compressed. In real life he would have gone out way wider and likely stalled at the apex of the climb.
"wir müssen das auf hart machen, biegt ein" which means "we gotta do it the hard way, turn" should have said "wir müssen das auf die harte art/tour machen, formation brechen" or something which means "we need to do it the hard way, break formation" late reply, but its a reply lmao
If anybodys ever seen the show dogfights that maneuver is possible and was used in combat. Pilots put on air brakes and chop throttle pulling up steeply into a stall. Then kick the rudder out so they do a flat spin while stationary, hopefully landing some hits on the enemy before falling into a nosedive, they then gain speed as they fall and throttle up. I know it looks like a backflip in the movie but really its not its a steep yaw.
I am so tired of these video game-like world war two movies. Can Hollywood please just make a decent film that's historically accurate? Maybe even focus on the other side of the war, instead of the continual 'Murica garbage?
Yes, I think there should be more movies that show WWII from the Axis side. Most of the newer WWII movies are American produced that show americans during WWII killing all the nazis and stuff, has crappy CGI and has a happy ending. But hey, there might be some movies out there we haven't heard of.
BarracudaProd1234 this guy posted it on youtube full 3 hours i watched it its a great movie finally prob the only movie showing germans side of view. if u want the link ill link u it
Or you could say this piece of shit movie sucked lol Hollywood is good if you hate it go watch that shitty Bollywood garbage with poor audio quality and picture quality and shit script bro and I know you still go into the theater and watch movies like these
The Chaika's a biplane. Biplanes can pull similar shenanigans to this, but you're not going to do it in a monoplane unless maybe it's one of those Red Bull air racers.
Great movie ,but highly inaccurate if he did that going at the same speed in the real world he would of ripped his wings or the very least stalled and gone into a flat spin.
For anyone who is actually pointing out the "illogical" mistakes in the movie are just as stupid as the people who believe them. Clearly the movie was not meant to be "Historically accurate"
Semptar suchus No, it isnt. We can assume that they were flying at an altitude where the P51 would have performed at it's best. Say, over 6kms. Since it performed well at this altitude, we can also assume that both it and the Bf 109 were going over 500km/h. Doing that "flick" would have likely made the pilot black out, or even tear the wings off the plane due to the G forces. Not possible.
That's not the hammerhead turn. A hammerhead turn is like a cross is intermediate between a World War I style Immellman, and the Cobra Turn. In the hammerhead you pull up and yaw to the side you want to head up too and let the stall reverse your plane. This is the stall turn, the way it is preformed is you lower the throttle, hit the breaks, lower the flaps, then you pull back on the stick, then do hard left/right rudder, all within a short time frame to snap the P-51/Bf 109 in a banking loop...
Cybermat47 How many fucking movies do you need about them? there allready is two, one is good and one is made by Lucas (which mean its shit) www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tuskegee_airmen/ Watch the first one if you dont like this one, stop puhing for fucking remakes, its destroying cinema
Connor Branscombe Lucas has not made a good movie since the fucking 80`s, and back then his ex wife saved indiana Jones and Star Wars by rewriting lines, and taking charge of the editing, if you want to know what a movie totaly controlled by lucas looks like, just look at the prequels, this has been know for years, Lucas is a good idea man, just a shit writer and director, this is hardly a contriversial statement, im guessing by your comment that you think this is a good movie?
+Orin00r How is asking for a good movie destroying cinema? Instead, it's helping cinema get better. It's idiots like you who have infested all kinds of areas including gaming, and what you specialize in is taking shit like on disc DLC, Microtransactions and all that corporate shit but you just smile and wave, and thank them for taking your money too. Same applies to cinema. If you don't demand good movies be made, the cinema is gonna get worse and worse. +cybermat47 is right. A movie about planes which takes into account the laws of physics and maybe tries a little harder to make the enemies a bit more than just stupid unskilled idiots who were given planes to control right after they finished cooking school would be great.
All these people who think this is some sort of propaganda are idiots. This was made by George Lucas, who had a bit of a boner for dogfight scenes. During the creation of the Death Star battle in the original Star Wars movie, George took a bunch of different scenes from WW2 fighter pilot movies and archival footage of WW2, and spliced them together as their storyboard. So with how much of WW2 buff George Lucas is, you`d imagine he`d probably want to do a movie based on WW2, right? And he likes to make movies where the underdogs fight a huge empire, (Rebels vs Empire, Indiana Jones vs Nazis) right? And who were a group of underdogs in WW2? Black fighter pilots during WW2. So maybe, it wasn`t propaganda. Maybe he just wanted to do another movie.
Its biased because they are the protagonists. Your mistake was expecting a Lucas film to be realistic. Remember how Indiana Jones has the Nazis looking for the Ark of the Covenant, or the Holy Grail?
I know the Germans were trying to defend their country, I`m not saying they were evil at any point. My point is that George Lucas is the type of guy who won`t let facts get in the way of a good story. For instance, the Red Tails never flew P-51Ds, they flew P-51Cs. Plus, you never see them fly P-47s, they just transition straight to the Mustangs. This has nothing to do with bias, this is just plot armor, and protagonist-centered morality. Directors stretch the facts in historical movies all the time. In the movie Jarhead, the main characters get strafed by an A-10, which never happened in the real story. It was actually a friendly fire incident with an Abrams tank.
That I can agree on. Keep in mind, contrary to what the movie says, the redtails did lose bombers to enemy fighters. Like many p51 squadrons though, they certainly put up an iron wall against the jerrys that made picking away at the bombers ever the more difficult.
Wouldn't you believe the wild maneuver at 0:48 could actually be pulled off? A P-51 pilot named, Richard Candelaria, pulled that same maneuver against a German ace and shot him down.
BEFORE the experts start saying this or that was wrong- This isnt a historical documentary. It's HOLLYWOOD and they ALWAYS change movies in order to make more money
For anyone doubting Lightning’s stunt the scene is based off an account one of the veterans recalled, they say they saw one of the red tails pull a stunt just like that
+megaman922934 Not at that speed with that high weight. The manuver is doable, but NOT under any of these circumstances. Probably doable if it was a slower A6M already in a climb with a stalling F4F behind him.
![[전쟁영화 공중전 전투씬/명장면] B-17 플라잉 포트리스(Flying Fortress) 호송작전 : P-51D 머스탱(Mustang vs Bf 109)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tDVdY3p0TBw/mqdefault.jpg)
Just a normal day in War Thunder..
When you forget to lower the throttle and die to a P-40
justmerc Hahahaha War Thunder joke I don’t get
Squire?
I mean it’s the opposite lol Americans always loose or Germans hav 80% win rates
GODDAMN IT'S A UPTIER! WE ARE IN JUNGLE COUNTRY NOW BOYS! ENEMY IN THE WIRE! EVERYBODY OPEN FIRE OPEN FIRE!
Go home physics, you're drunk
+John Smith lol
Until an American P-51D pilot did the same thing. Then physics said, "Yep. I am drunk."
John Smith Anime has no say in what and how physics work. Besides you making an anime about aircraft and it will be created by the same fucking people who made GuP. Now I am fucking pissed. I mean I am gonna have to switch good o'l IL-2 because of weebs. Thanks alot!
@SilverTalon007 Yes, I'm sure P-51s regularly exceeded critical alpha, stalled out and somehow managed to continue to maintain sufficient airflow over the control surfaces to complete the loop. That's totally how physics work.
The maneuver is possible in a documentary a Tuskegee man did it.
Though when he did it there were two German planes he got a few bullets on one but eventually died.
He didn't get a kill.
I heard it when I was like 7 years old. I forgot the true story. I believe that was it.
surprised Lucas didn't put in a part where one of the pilots flew his P-51 into the Reichstag and fired proton torpedoes into its reactor core and blew up all the Nazis forever.
and make 2 more movies where the nazis rebuild the reichstag and have it blown up again two more times with proton torpedoes
COVID 1984 you people are complete jackasses
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Lul nice Star Wars reference
@@Graymenn 😂😂
the real trick was saying fuck you to inertia, compression and G-forces at the same time
+GrayAndAnime OwO LOL :P
+GrayAndAnime OwO What about spinning? That's a good trick.
+GreyShot and having the 109 pilot miss so much. damn.
Rose9985 the so called "Ace" missed so much, it isn't worth calling him "Ace".
this is so american propaganda. later in the movie, they show the same p51ds maintaining level flight with 262s and manuvering like zeroes. my fuckin sides hurt.
I'll try spinning, that's a good trick.
+Rhodanos, Erbe des Universums aw, I like you too :3
Actually it's "you'll never make it to the outskirts in time. Sandstorms are very, very dangerous."
Do a barrel roll!
Jar Jar is the key to all this
War thunder be like now days XD
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At 0:50 that wasn't the throttle, silly people.
It's the gravity switch.
You must be fun at parties
xRazProductions no,its the bullshit switch...
robin parker omg i wouldnt want to be ur friend lol
i thougt the plane would break with this maneuver at this speed
I thought it was the handbrake :)
"Going to show him a little trick I learned."
*trys trick but ends up passing out from the amount of G's and crashes into another plane*
🤣🤣🤣true
nice job having that medium strength air frame survive such high stress and not having the blood vessels in your brain pop
Wizl The Blonde Alien That's what I'd call good engineering
+pyr0pete Hell yeah!
+pyr0pete With a lil' bit of FREEDOM!
US aircraft were generally built to high strength standards. Actually the P51 got redesigned in the H version to be less strong to save weight. The P51 did have a reputation, though, for the wings coming off. It was never fully resolved, but probably weak undercarriage locks causing them to deploy under high G sometimes.
That actually happened in real life. You can look it up....
I did some actual math and found that given the initial speed of 400kmh (111m/s), the deceleration time of 0.5sec and the fact that the plane stops completely during that maneuver, the acceleration would instead be:
a = v / t = 222.2 m / s^2 = ~22g
It appears that in the scene, the plane stops almost completely and then goes up a bit (which would definitely not be possible irl), thus we can consider the deceleration to be mostly happening along the horizontal axis. That means that the plane and the pilot suffered from a horizontal overload, not vertical, and humans have shown to be able to resist it quite well for short periods of time.
In conclusion: I don't think that the deceleration would kill the pilot but it would likely be able to rip the wings off the plane.
Update: I did some research and it appears that most fighter aircraft cannot sustain over 9g's of vertical overload because the airframe begins to break. That being said, since they are built for sustaining vertical overload, not horizontal, they, obviously, they cannot sustain more horizontal overload than vertical, and thus, the wings would almost definitely get ripped off.
chad in the 3rd degree.
Bro relax it’s only a movie you dweeb
@@kmrchneru9103 ...
Even if they stayed on by magic, the 51D tended to be a bit touchy in the pitch department. Pull back too hard on that stick and she'll depart. Do that with no power to recover. Well, nice knowing you. lol
@beanz Maybe not, but that's still a lot of overload. Also, I only outlined a single issue with the maneuver, although there are many more.
LOL! That's a mustang with thrust vectoring! Amazing shit.
@HellYeaNixon what? What he did the movie is impossible.
@@herosjourney8725 the real maneuver in real life had a much wider turn. It’s possible with the p-51. I’ll break it down for you, engine heavy, tail light. If you fuck up the maneuver you stall out and are a sitting duck. The famous story of Richard candelleria was he did a desperate maneuver to get onto the 109s tail which was him cutting his throttle and kicking hard rudder to swing the p-51 around to get onto the 109s tail but he was lucky and the p-51 perfectly aligned with the bf109s flight path giving him a perfect shot. The turn couldn’t have been too tight obviously because he would have passed out to like 10000 Gs.
@HellYeaNixon that maneuver isn’t a inverted vertical reverse. It’s called a flick stall.
@@herosjourney8725 No the only impossible part was shooting the plane down. The real one was used to run like hell after a 2000 ft drop.
Lol .50 cal = instakill
This is P51 fanboy's wet dreams for war thunder
Nah, the fucke-wulfs take p51 asses and penetrate them
Hugo Stiglitz Well, first off, the MG 151 and MG FF's (20mm cannons on the Fw 190 A-5) were not meant to penetrate armor. Second off, the most armor a fighter plane usually has is like, 15-25mm plates, only installed in locations such as cockpit or engine, so there is nothing to penetrate. So technically, these guns have nothing to penetrate, so no need for any AP ammo for 20mm. Though, technically, these *Focke-Wulfs blow up a P-51's ass because Minengeschoß ammo is packed with explosive power. And in War Thunder (what I was talking about in the first place) BMG M2 seems to do way more damage than even 30mm MK 108 (those cannons on the Me 262) that HISTORICALLY could "shatter" a P-51's airframe instantley, but they sparkle alot.
bla bla bla bla, tonto
Hugo Stiglitz alright. I see how it is нацистский сука
gordo
"I just learned a new trick" *gets killed by inertia and G-force
I feel bad that African Americans who died in ww2 didn't get any respect or even the ones who made it home
You don't see anyone here but you say that!!
We can correct the mistakes of past citizens. We today can honor those who fought bravely.
And remember their sacrifice wasn’t a short term Investment; it was an investment for future generations like us to live on in their memory. The fact that they fought for a country that partially did not honor their sacrifice at that time means their sacrifice was greater than we could measure.
J Lupus well said
@@jlupus8804 This. Very much this. The US is a flawed nation to be sure, but it's those flaws, and how we work to correct them that make us a great nation. People like to point at our history of slavery and racism as reasons the Country sucks.... but to that end I say: We've worked to get rid of them. We fought a civil war because of slavery, which ultimately ended the practice in the US. We have made many great leaps towards ending societal racism in the US... But unfortunately, there are those who want racism to continue to exist, not because of their prejudices, but because their life work depends on it. You would think that when we elected a African American as POTUS (granted we could've made a better choice, but still), that groups like the NAACP would close their doors as their work was effectively done.... but no... they are still around, trying to find cases of racism where there isn't and bring that to the media who makes it worse.
In the words of Morgan Freeman when asked how we can beat racism: "Stop talking about it". And he's right. If we stop acting like it's a big deal, and focus on the real issues of our lives.... we'll all be the better for it.
@@Tank50us I'm sorry, but that's a ridiculous and quite frankly insulting statement. Black people still face incredible systemic discrimination in America, including within sentencing, policing, housing, employment, voting, education and healthcare. Does not "acting like it's a big deal" fix any of these? All your argument boils down to is "there's been a black president, so shut up". All you do is deny the issue, which does nothing except ensure these injustices go ignored. Congratulations, you're actively helping racism survive
0:51 I love how the German pilot goes NEIN! when Lightning shoots his 109 down its hilarious
He knew about basic physics
It's a Mustang, not lightning
@CTA_155 sorry, my bad
Wtf is this? This is by far the best looking visuals I have seen in any WW2 movie ever, and yet it's so utterly stupid.
Poorest German voiceacting I've ever heard, holy fuck just pay some German hobo a hundred quid and he will do that better, how hard can it be?
And there has been said enough about how ridiculously unrealistic this maneuver was. Yes it is a film, but it has to at least LOOK doable, otherwise it's just bullshit.
American patriotic "murica" propaganda at it's finest.
***** Don't ever believe anything history channel shows you, at the very least when it's about anything USA related.
That channel is so ridiculously patriotic it's not even fun anymore.
***** It's possible yes, I think it would only be a high Yoyo combined with a quick stall and the following hammerhead. However, the pilot would lose too much speed to have any chance of catching the German. And that that Luftwaffe pilot would surely not keep flying straight, making himself a perfect target.
This maneuver can only be used defensively, I would say.
And don't worry about your English, it's perfectly fine. I'm not a native speaker myself, but I can understand you :)
BoarhideGaming Actually, that maneuver is real. You're thinking then why didn't all pilots use this trick? Because there's a 80% chance of failing this maneuver.
Ryan | Spazzybacca it's also completely useless in combat because it won't be anything like in this movie.
And where did you get that 80% from? Is that a recorded stat or did you just make this up the same way the film makers invented a new physics.
BoarhideGaming No I did not make up the 80% it's true.
The P40's wing-loading is 37.5 lb/ft^2, 90% of the P51's 39.
The Bf 109 G-6 (the one in this clip, and one of the most common) had a wingloading of 40 ft/lb^2, which was virtually the same.
But the Messerschmidt was only 75% the weight of the Mustang, implying it would be able to withstand it better.
A 190 couldn't, with a wingloading of 49 ft/lb.
And the swept-wing design of the Flankers and Hornets would actually, in all likelihood, snap the wings if they did this at their typical speeds.
Man the hell you mean with the Sukhoi Flankers. Su-30 Can Defo Pull A Cobra
@@VF000O Yeah, this isn't a cobra though, he basically did a backflip. The Flanker could definitely perform a similar maneuver but not this tight. Still, it's a lot more plausible than a fucking P-51 doing it.
00:02
When your playing Warthunder and the rest of your team is lawnmowing
This movie is so fucking awful. All the characters are cardboard cutouts. Everything feels like a giant anachronism. Garabage
Its still better then Starwars episodes 1-3!
+Plutonius X another guy getting mad its funny watching war nerds get mad
pookie If you want to waste your time and brain cells watching crap, then be my guest. You simply highlight the continual dumbing down of society.
Plutonius X well i lost my soul in mortal kombat so i watch away :D
0:50 Fuck physics
lol let me point out the problems here
-the MG151 on the 109 would have shredded the P-51 if it scored that many hits
-the P-51 cant perform anything close to a kulbit like in the video, even less in battle
-the P-51's 50cals can usually not destroy a BF109 that fast, took quite a few hits, not just a short pass
P51 has a low G wing load so no.
RX-78 -2 well yeah but it's impossible for it to perform such a maneuver anyway, its just really fucked up lol even non aviation fans can see the lack of realism here
Sanya Bennett Really? So you can pull 20G's like that?
Pickleman Not a fighter, you have to spray it with M2s to kill a large target like a plane. They only kill human sized targets. This one shotkill crap is just pure american fantasy. The only areal weapon that could do that in WW2 was the german MK-108.
Pickleman it is you who is incorrect. Of course you can get a lucky hit, but it took in general a good burst to cause any kind of significant damage, not a little strafe to cause an instakill. The 50cal was becoming ineffective for air combat from 1943 onward with the newer faster, tougher and better armed fighters but the Americans still used them until the Korean war when the pilots finally begged for them to be removed. The only reason they didn't get rid of them earlier was because they didn't have any decent cannons in production to replace them with. The only cannon they had was the AN/M2 which is a cheap low quality copy of the British Hispano HS.404 until the M61 came, which they are still using to this day.
Also the 109 apparently are equipped with Stuka sirens. I just hate this movie!
That stuff is in every world war 2 movie that had planes except dunkirk.
that wasn't even close to the Jericho.
the P51 DOES actually have a siren whistle sound though when it flies overhead... Because of the bottom air intake... the others DO NOT sound like sirens...
@@EscanV That is actually the air inlet for the radiator. The actual air intakes are in the nose.
yes and they portray the germans as such generic badguys
lets not even begin on the part where one of the US pilots tanks over 6 30mm explosive cannon shells in a head on with a jet...
its what I call "Black magic"
Skogze No, that is playing WT with high ping for you.
Or the part in the movie where they strafe a fucking *LIGHT CRUISER* and cause it explode, all with 6 50. cals
@@tic-tac9323 Given that the loads for .50cal belts included incendiary rounds, and that the pilot in question shot the torpedo launchers causing them to ignite and explode... It was a very real tactic in WW2 that US pilots would do against enemy ships. If they lacked any dedicated ordinance, they'd strafe the torpedoes hoping to get that lucky hit. One set of pilots did this in a dive against a Japanese Cruiser by firing down into the stacks which caused one of the boilers to explode and that crippled the ship. So, yeah, it's very possible to put a ship out of action using only HMGs, you just have to hit the right spot with the right bullet.
Pringles Gaming 4 actually
@@Tank50us - Nope...
The only credited incident in which planes used machine guns to destroy a Navy Vessel was 4 P47's that strafed an Italian Ariete class destroyer that was being under the control of the DKM.
The Vessel was not at combat stations and had no securities in place.
It is believed that machine-gun fire made its way into a powder magazine due to the vessel not having hatches secured.
There are no credited incidents of Japanese ships being cripple by machine gunfire.
Also, help me understand something...
I want to see if you understand the comedy of your claim...
A pilot, diving at a Japanese cruiser was able to visually identify that the round from his flight traversed the funnel and destroyed a boiler...
Diving at a cruiser... Being fired at the whole time. Flax and 20mm bursts all around them, while approaching at over 200kts...
Having to pull out of the dive at 500ft MINIMUM or risk crashing...
You're telling me that a pilot was able to visually confirm a boiler being destroyed, through a smoke funnel at 500ft with explosions all around him, whilst trying his best to pull out of a dive without crashing?
Please... Provide sources haha XD
you cant do that shit even in video games...
LMG Light-Machine-Gun whats that book?WW2 red bull aerobatics team bio?
Mexican P51 pilot, Richard Candelaria did do it and shot down a 109.
SuperFordragon go and play War Thunder m8
@@TheCatVtuber go eat your milk kiddo
@@SuperFordragon how nice of you to reply to a 6 years old thread, I can't even remember what the context of the conversation was.
That spin maneuver was not shown correctly in the movie, but it can be done. Recently Guy Martin (motorcycle rider) was riding with a stunt pilot and they did that very maneuver, but plane literally flips forward and is pointed backwards. Did the Red Tails actually use this extraordinary maneuver? That's for each of us to believe or not.
yes, it was a p-51C
0:27 there's no gunsight, no wonder he can't shoot for nuts....
''wir müssen das auf hart machen''? wasn das bitte für ein deutsch??
das klingt als hätten die einfach den englischen Text in Google Übersetzer eingegeben
Simon Ring
lucas style :'D
So much potential, so much promise..So much that coulda be done..Wasted.
This movie made me cry with how underwhelming and utterly ridiculous it was
It was a good movie
Vanessa Collier Well.. Ms. Collier. I disagree and think it could've been better. Thus you are a booger. G'day Ma'am!
Love you boo boo bear ace Tuskegee
Tuskegee Ace is spook juice
Seriously!! I feel the same way. It had so much potential. But its been ruined with a bunch of badassery bullshit.
oh.. and P-51 never flew cover INSIDE of the bomber formation. That is about the dumbest thing anyone can think of.. It should've been the Fw190s attacking the bomber formation while Bf109s provided cover and fought the P51s. This movie is just BS
Whatsup1492 you can just piss off, you don’t have to call out the realism in the movie, it’s a movie, not a documentary, so you don’t have to say jack shit
The EpicShadow it literally says based on true events in the trailer. So you piss off
Daniel457 that doesn’t mean there has to be realism in the fighter and bomber formations, based on true events means the story, not the realism of the actions and scenes
the entire movie is unrealistic mate. not just those scenes. cough 50 cals sinking a german light cruiser cough.
Daniel457 alright, I JUST had this conversation with somebody else, this movie is not entirely realistic, it’s mostly not
"Don't you worry about me. I'm just playing with him."
Yeah, 'cuz you're in a Hollywood dogfight, flyboy!
Seems legit. xD
Felipe M.A. Graça it is
Not only would his airframe been terribly damaged in that flip, but G-forces would have caused him to go unconsciousness to the point where he would wake up in an irrecoverable dive LOL
Lmfao yea ok guess physics didn't apply to the red tails
+Hunter Gant Im lmafao at you because this is actual maneuver from Col. kandelaria.
@@17MrLeon Yeah very realistic.
A sudden bleed of speed within seconds only modern day fighters would be able to pull off.
Maybye it was real but the pilot pulled WAY higher and dived
Ok, again this maneouver happened and it was pulled of in P51D. Why do you keep bringing matter that has been already put to the side. It did not have to be modern airplane. BECAUSE IT FUCKING HAPPENED EXACTLY LIKE THIS.
@@17MrLeon no way that shit is real. The plane would have either pulled upward in an arc or broken apart. No aircraft was ever made to do that. The pilot would instantly black out from massive G force. This was George Lucas crap at it's most stupid.
The move is impossible and history channel exaggerated it. The actual pilot problably did something close but not nearly as fast.
00:46 , because fuck flight physics and also how the fuck 12.7 mm browning do that much damage ?
/watch?v=BC_yVzUeIUI
+Öykü Akbulut omfg another war nerd hating on a movie
6 50cals firing API rounds at that ranged could EASILY do that much damage assuming they all hit like in this scene....... somehow.
Just finished watching dunkirk and wanted to find more WWII plane films but Jesus Christ this looks awful
AdamMoss14 I recommend the Battle of Britain (1969) and The Blue Max (1965), two great aerial epics with REAL AIRCRAFT, no cgi nonsense
Check Colonel Kato's Fighter Squadron. Shot during the war about events just two years before with original aircraft types.
"Dark Blue World" made in 2001 - It is based on the events surrounding the Polish pilots that flew Spitfires for the RAF after Poland was invaded.
Pretty good movie too.
Some minor liberties, but overall quite accurate and the flying combat is a close to real as you can get.
They even include actual gun camera footage.
Dunkirk’s aircraft ‘dogfights’ were shit too, but at least Red Tails just makes me laugh at how shoddy it is
@Din Djarin They were most definitely not. Even Chuck Yeager himself said they were nothing like real life.
0:49 is the best scene in this movie
11/10 would deny physics again
I can hear the nigga singing "WHERE DA HOOD AT" performing that maneuver.
Only "unite states of propaganda" can make video like this.
Whats worse?
That you made an ass out of yourself trolling;
Or...
That everyone ignored your comment?
Waltham1892 It appears to be there more people interested in his comment than yours.And also he is right you know.
I'm American. This isn't propaganda. It's just stupidity. If Black people can't swim what makes you think they can fly a plane???
You stupid mate, you stupid
Waltham1892 What's worse?
That he got 17 times more upvotes than you;
Or...
That he's right and you made an ass out of yourself?
judging by how tight the turn was, in reality the plane would have:
A) Stalled, never finished the turn, or
B) had its wings ripped off by G forces
C) Pilot would have blacked out.
D) All of the above.
I think it was meant to look like a high yo-yo, but such a tight turn would require thrust vectoring like on the F-22, as the wings and tail would stall from the high angle of attack.
He was going pretty fast, wouldn't have instantly stalled. It would be B and C. It looked like he did basically a loop but just super compressed. In real life he would have gone out way wider and likely stalled at the apex of the climb.
A little trick I learned. It's called breaking the laws of physics.
0:01 LOL. The spoken german is totally wrong. Lucas, next time hire a German language adviser.
@@muhammadmuftiabdulhafizh7765 don't u see the lyrics - _-
"wir müssen das auf hart machen, biegt ein"
which means "we gotta do it the hard way, turn"
should have said "wir müssen das auf die harte art/tour machen, formation brechen" or something
which means "we need to do it the hard way, break formation"
late reply, but its a reply lmao
@@tripplesix8459 wo sind deine marschbefehle?
@@realcritical-kr2dd
noch nicht da lol
If anybodys ever seen the show dogfights that maneuver is possible and was used in combat. Pilots put on air brakes and chop throttle pulling up steeply into a stall. Then kick the rudder out so they do a flat spin while stationary, hopefully landing some hits on the enemy before falling into a nosedive, they then gain speed as they fall and throttle up. I know it looks like a backflip in the movie but really its not its a steep yaw.
@Berke Seven Yeah 5 year old comment I know but this is not possible in any plane that does not have thrust vectoring
So I guess the tuskegee experiment was a succes
I am so tired of these video game-like world war two movies. Can Hollywood please just make a decent film that's historically accurate? Maybe even focus on the other side of the war, instead of the continual 'Murica garbage?
Yes, I think there should be more movies that show WWII from the Axis side. Most of the newer WWII movies are American produced that show americans during WWII killing all the nazis and stuff, has crappy CGI and has a happy ending. But hey, there might be some movies out there we haven't heard of.
Unsere Mütter, Unsere Väter is really good, but I've only seen a few clips because I can't find it online as a full.
BarracudaProd1234 this guy posted it on youtube full 3 hours i watched it its a great movie finally prob the only movie showing germans side of view. if u want the link ill link u it
Sure!
/watch?v=BC_yVzUeIUI
That Mustang literally went from 300 mph to 0 in less than 2 seconds
Yeah and another Hollywood historically uncorrect movie to show how good america was....
wait... it wasn't...
Or you could say this piece of shit movie sucked lol Hollywood is good if you hate it go watch that shitty Bollywood garbage with poor audio quality and picture quality and shit script bro and I know you still go into the theater and watch movies like these
I won't watch a movie like Red Tails. never
Dennis Hennebold yeah that's completely understandable XD
+ Tommy Berger
:D
yes the movie was shit but in the real ww2 america was indeed very very good.
to the last plane to the last bullet to the last person we fight!!!
Wir müssen das auf hart machen :D :D :D :D
its called a kick turn it uses the rudder ,throttle,and the stick,the peddle use was not shown
i dont care how unrealistic this is, i fuking loved watching this
Tbh I've seen a I-153 Chaika do that maneuver so it is possible.
The Chaika's a biplane. Biplanes can pull similar shenanigans to this, but you're not going to do it in a monoplane unless maybe it's one of those Red Bull air racers.
About as realistic as U-571
All these people hating on this movie are the same ones that think American sniper is a true story
I don't believe an airplane can make such a tight turn. A nowadays fighter jet can, but I don't think a 1940's fighter plane could.
Modern day jets aren't turnfighters. There is literally no way that this could ever happen. The pilot would die from the gravitational forces.
It could stall and flip like that I guess but in a rigt such as that, I think not
You cant fly with 400 km/h and suddenly do a backflip and shoot down a plane afterwards. Especially not with a p-51d because it flys like a brick.
Baum MainBattleTank Yeah, p51s were some of the heaviest single engine fighters of the war, and red tails was generally an autistic movie
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Great movie ,but highly inaccurate if he did that going at the same speed in the real world he would of ripped his wings or the very least stalled and gone into a flat spin.
Birds of Steel for the PS3 and Xbox 360 will absolutely not let you pull off something like that. It's physics are more realistic than this movie.
I'm gonna show him a little trick I learned...... how to rip off my wings.
What the fuck did i just...
For anyone who is actually pointing out the "illogical" mistakes in the movie are just as stupid as the people who believe them. Clearly the movie was not meant to be "Historically accurate"
it is historically accurate you idiot. Go ask the military
^ Anyone wanna laugh at this guy for me?
DSRT888 that flick at 0:42 is actually possible
Semptar suchus
No, it isnt. We can assume that they were flying at an altitude where the P51 would have performed at it's best. Say, over 6kms. Since it performed well at this altitude, we can also assume that both it and the Bf 109 were going over 500km/h. Doing that "flick" would have likely made the pilot black out, or even tear the wings off the plane due to the G forces.
Not possible.
Semptar suchus no its not please dont say things you dont know, the absolutely massive g force would probaly break the plane and criple the pilot
My favourite part by far 👌🏼😂😈🔥
When the show forgot how to deal with physics and engineering xD
When you pay close attention, it's almost a stall maneuver.
His last words before he died was NO! what a legend.
That's not the hammerhead turn. A hammerhead turn is like a cross is intermediate between a World War I style Immellman, and the Cobra Turn. In the hammerhead you pull up and yaw to the side you want to head up too and let the stall reverse your plane. This is the stall turn, the way it is preformed is you lower the throttle, hit the breaks, lower the flaps, then you pull back on the stick, then do hard left/right rudder, all within a short time frame to snap the P-51/Bf 109 in a banking loop...
*teacher suddenly comes in the classroom
Me 0:19
Archer wasn't a bad pilot, but his records are still in dispute.
What the fuck?
Can we get a good movie about the Tuskegee airmen, please?
Cybermat47 How many fucking movies do you need about them? there allready is two, one is good and one is made by Lucas (which mean its shit) www.rottentomatoes.com/m/tuskegee_airmen/
Watch the first one if you dont like this one, stop puhing for fucking remakes, its destroying cinema
Orin00r You think Lucas movies are shit? You're fucking dumb kid.
Connor Branscombe Lucas has not made a good movie since the fucking 80`s, and back then his ex wife saved indiana Jones and Star Wars by rewriting lines, and taking charge of the editing, if you want to know what a movie totaly controlled by lucas looks like, just look at the prequels, this has been know for years, Lucas is a good idea man, just a shit writer and director, this is hardly a contriversial statement, im guessing by your comment that you think this is a good movie?
Yeah, I didn't come in pointing out flaws in the movie, I just enjoyed the action.
+Orin00r How is asking for a good movie destroying cinema? Instead, it's helping cinema get better.
It's idiots like you who have infested all kinds of areas including gaming, and what you specialize in is taking shit like on disc DLC, Microtransactions and all that corporate shit but you just smile and wave, and thank them for taking your money too.
Same applies to cinema. If you don't demand good movies be made, the cinema is gonna get worse and worse.
+cybermat47 is right.
A movie about planes which takes into account the laws of physics and maybe tries a little harder to make the enemies a bit more than just stupid unskilled idiots who were given planes to control right after they finished cooking school would be great.
"I'm gonna hit the brakes, he'll fly right by...."
"You're gonna do WHAT?!?"
Only liked because, "I'm gunna show hum a littlr trick I learned."
Him and little*
Thanks for the clarification
That p51 manuevers is badass
This movie kinda portrays the Germans as emotionless vampires
When you pull 20Gs without breaking a sweat
“Ima show you a little trick I learned.” *turns on slew mode*
All these people who think this is some sort of propaganda are idiots. This was made by George Lucas, who had a bit of a boner for dogfight scenes. During the creation of the Death Star battle in the original Star Wars movie, George took a bunch of different scenes from WW2 fighter pilot movies and archival footage of WW2, and spliced them together as their storyboard. So with how much of WW2 buff George Lucas is, you`d imagine he`d probably want to do a movie based on WW2, right? And he likes to make movies where the underdogs fight a huge empire, (Rebels vs Empire, Indiana Jones vs Nazis) right? And who were a group of underdogs in WW2? Black fighter pilots during WW2. So maybe, it wasn`t propaganda. Maybe he just wanted to do another movie.
Its biased because they are the protagonists. Your mistake was expecting a Lucas film to be realistic. Remember how Indiana Jones has the Nazis looking for the Ark of the Covenant, or the Holy Grail?
I know the Germans were trying to defend their country, I`m not saying they were evil at any point. My point is that George Lucas is the type of guy who won`t let facts get in the way of a good story. For instance, the Red Tails never flew P-51Ds, they flew P-51Cs. Plus, you never see them fly P-47s, they just transition straight to the Mustangs. This has nothing to do with bias, this is just plot armor, and protagonist-centered morality. Directors stretch the facts in historical movies all the time. In the movie Jarhead, the main characters get strafed by an A-10, which never happened in the real story. It was actually a friendly fire incident with an Abrams tank.
That I can agree on. Keep in mind, contrary to what the movie says, the redtails did lose bombers to enemy fighters. Like many p51 squadrons though, they certainly put up an iron wall against the jerrys that made picking away at the bombers ever the more difficult.
RC dogfights might be more accurate than this
109's dogfighting in a bomber formation lol
Another military movie to make blacks feel good
That feeling, when you discovering break gear in your airplane...
Wouldn't you believe the wild maneuver at 0:48 could actually be pulled off? A P-51 pilot named, Richard Candelaria, pulled that same maneuver against a German ace and shot him down.
sorta, but it definitely didn't look lile that
Absolutely not like that, as displayed it was like 22g’s he’d be dead.
@@allena5545 Eh. 214G was survived.
BEFORE the experts start saying this or that was wrong- This isnt a historical documentary.
It's HOLLYWOOD and they ALWAYS change movies in order to make more money
The most ridiculous movie mankind has ever made .
That's the way most of mankind likes their films....there is enough drama in the world
There’s been much worse movies, so piss off will ya
the USAF discounts most of his paper they still state the 332 got a destroyer,and give them credit for it, read the USAF official report on the 332nd
WTF???
This planes cant do this acrobatic move
0:51 NIEN!!!!!!!
I WILL TRY THAT TRICK IN WARTHUNDER SO LET SEE
PhlyDaily approves :D
Lol just screamed "fuck you Jarry!" In class when they won( ╹▽╹ )
I'll try spinning that's was a good trick.
the maneuver used by lighting is a real and possible maneuver. many p-51s and 109s used this and saved themselves from sky chases.
The german pilot at 0:49 what the fack The german pilot at 0:51 NIEN!
Pretty close, bro!
*nien = Nein ;) Just helping out
Fuck the Gs, fuck the inertia, fuck the history or whatever's going on in the comments, that stunt was badass.
+Neo Machine A movie stunt has to be at least partially feasible to really seem badass.
For anyone doubting Lightning’s stunt the scene is based off an account one of the veterans recalled, they say they saw one of the red tails pull a stunt just like that
Actually the report of a P51 doing that maneuver are not from Tuskegee airman. It is in one of the Olde dogfights episodes on the history Channel
that's probably a faulty report because a maneuver like that is literally impossible without thrust vectoring which is only a thing in modern jets
With a mass of over 4,000 kg? No freakin' way.
Nah learn how planes work
They might have pulled a stall manoeuvre of some kind, but not like that. That is 100% not physically possible
0:43 me in War Thunder Air everytime getting chased by enemy in my Mustang C
I'm glad I saw this clip. I was wondering if the money would be any good.
Obviously it's BS.
Woah the p 51 wasn't that manoeuvrable. Planes that could do that were the zero and the other Japanese planes and probably the spitfire
Alex Daniels No plane can turn that tight that quickly without breaking apart.
+megaman922934 Not at that speed with that high weight. The manuver is doable, but NOT under any of these circumstances. Probably doable if it was a slower A6M already in a climb with a stalling F4F behind him.
0:44 "Im gona ruin this movie with some anti physics-only-in-movies-bullshit"
Lool da makes even Fury look realistic
Haha, so going that speed he doesnt rip his wings off. Let alone the fact that the Mustang does not loop that tight....
CrazyMedic220 hell, not even a I 153 or an A6m2 or a Spitfire could loop like that.
Mhm, thats why I can never watch this movie. Because I'd be yelling at the Germans "USE YOU F***ING MG AND CANNONS! NOT ONE OR THE OTHER!" LOL
+CrazyMedic220 every war movie is unrealistic then nerds like you get mad at it also being a nerd is not a problem
And then people like you who have nothing better to do look at a 7 month old post and try to be funny.
*Drops mic*
CrazyMedic220 i lost my soul in mortal kombat what else am i gonna do
They should make some reversals like in warthunder lol