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- Come along with me as I hike out to a sandstone rock shelter here on the Cumberland Plateau that contains 1,000-year-old Native American petroglyphs. This shelter was used by the late woodland and early Mississippian Native Americans and is the only excavated petroglyph site in the state of Tennessee. It was excavated by Dr. Duane King in 1974. 752 shards of pottery and numerous points were found here during the excavation and it is believed this was a ritual or ceremony site. The shelter contains petroglyphs of deer tracks, turkey tracks, and even linear grooves that are associated with vertical shafts we cavers call pits.
Your verts & turkey tracks were multi use for sharpening and also wedge building many of the holes were for storage and molding. Poles ran from ground to sandstone holes fixed above. skins were then wrapped. the inner wall hole was the centerline mounts. Many Siberian natives still practise these techniques currently. I live near probably the most significant known mound in the US those also were used to navigate from seasonally. Very cool👍
Tn resident, thanks for showing and educating others on our great state!!
Sweet! Thank you.
Dosent it give you a sense of belonging at these sites!one can almost see,and hear the ceremony. Words songs,fires,music, my god!thank you for your hard work, GREAT WORK! I am Oneidan, turtle tribe,nye family. Blessings
Yes, it is a very special place. I wish we could know more for certain what all of this means. Many blessings to you as well and thank you for watching.
Really amazing petroglyph panels and very similar to ones found at Fountaine blue forest in France. Also similar to some in WV. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you.
Has and always will be Mama Nature growing Dada's wheat who is the body of Wawa very much alive.
Those rocks are old trees that’s why they blend so well
Interesting
Awesome video! I live in east Tennessee and didn't know about it. We'll be visiting now bc of your leg work. Literally 😂
The Cherokee around there lived in house's, like people lived in log cabins. They didn't live in caves. I believe there's other Native Americans around besides the Cherokee. The Creek maybe? Tsaligi (Cherokee) means something like Foreigner. They use to think they were from the Iroquois. The Cherokee would migrate further south in the winter. They would build hot house's to stay warm. Something similar to what the ancient people in Briton would build. A structure with a fire pit in the middle, and a hole for the fire pit in the roof.
Did not mention that they lived in caves as I know they did not. This site, as well as caves were used as special use sites not living sites.
Did you know that you are most likely going inside of a fossilized giant!
Yes, our mountains here are Limestone and Sandstone which are sedimentary rock.
@Frolicking Lotus I did. It was preposterous.
All the carbon dating proves is that the place was last used 1000 years ago. It's probably older than that.
Yes it probably was used before that
Everything is a ceremonial site to these archeologists. Everything! Lol! Why don't they just say they don't have a definitive answer.
The glyphs you pointed out in the turkey tracks looked like tad poles and the other looked like a comet.
Looks like a whole bunch of natives watched a meteorite hit
@@mammothriders1325 that is exactly what I noticed
As a boy growing up in Tennessee you could find huge flint spear points in plowed tobacco fields after a good spring rain. You had about a month between plowing and planting to search. Farmers didn't care but after they plant STAY OUT. I would say that the carvings are a calendar. The long line probably represents the equinox and deer hunting and the autumn full moons as well as the sun's position as the seasons progress. It would be interesting to see if the sun actually beams down on the face of the carvings.
Your love for the Native American people has made you wise.🙏🏻❤️🕊🐾🦌🎄
You were lucky to have that background. We used to find points (mostly bird) after plowing and a spring rain.
Same up here in Illinois! Got a nice collection!
Same here in Oklahoma & Texas border.
I’m sure you probably have but, the peacefulness insect sounds make me want to just sit in there, close my eyes and try to let my mind take me back to the time when they were there!!! It’s hard to imagine how it would have been that long ago. No technology, fewer people and just… ahh! Thank you for sharing your video, it is very relaxing and BEAUTIFUL!
Thank you and oh yes, to just sit there and listen. It is such a peaceful spot.
@@tag_caver Spend the night, bring camera.
Do you have the 👁
Yes luv! Absolutely love to do that in the woods on my property, nothing like it,fireflies, crickets singing ❤️
Usually that time of year, late September through the first half of November in the Southern woodlands it sounds like that, quiet with lots of soothing crickets around, and we have plenty of warm fronts that time of year to go camping at night.
It is amazing that someone named Ronnie or ZGA have not spray painted the whole cave
Great job taking us with. Thank you so much for hiking out there. Job well done on the video!
Thank you
I so enjoyed this video! Warmest and most abundant thanks for sharing this. We're so fortunate to have these reminders of our ancestors and their lives.
Thank you
I don't think I would call them ceremonies but I think they were just used as a base camp for hunting trips. Handful of people at most.
I'm so glad to see vandals haven't destroyed this beautiful piece of history.
I wasn't aware of this location. I appreciate you taking the time to take the video. I am going to share it with a geophysicist who is a petroglyph enthusiast, hopefully he can provide some insight.
Hebrew Priests From Ireland......all those lines bunched together spell a word from an Ancient Irish language called OGHUM.
OLUMFADHA or JEREMIAH THE PROPHET invented the language of OGHUM.
It is documented that Native Americans did this.
@@tag_caver history books never reflect History Book.
Native Americans used paints and plant dye to paint walls.
The only stone engraving going on at that time was from stone workers or masons from overseas.
The Indians ,of which I am part Cherokee,
we're a lot cooler and laid back.
These Hebrew Priests came all charged up with The Holy Spirit and hammers and chisel from blacksmith forged.
Native Americans were still chilling,hunting,smoking peace,and making arrowheads and spearheads was the top technology at the moment.
Research Bat Creek Tennessee or Kentucky caves.Nine Hebrew Priests were found there.
Stay in touch.
@@johngarvin8888 I respectfully disagree based on the evidence that was found in this shelter.
This is beautiful. I would love to try to visit this site. I am in Sequatchie County Tennessee.. I will try to find this State Park area you are talking about in this video. Great job and explanations...thanks
I'd say that one ball with the three lines off the back of it with the bigger ball behind the lines could be the moon or sun and comet or asteroid they witnessed or was told about it, or it was a vision of future?kinda looks like the wall is made to look like darkness to me?
I have heard that it is also suspected that they may have had ceremonies here during celestial events as well so that would make sense too. In that corner, there was evidence of fires so the darkenss could be soot from fires and some Aholes recently built another fire in there so that could contribue to it as wel.
Kosmographia on TH-cam by Randall Carlson describes an event in the 1800’s of multiple fires to the west of and around the northern portion of the Great Lakes that looked like a broom sweeping everything away. The Great Conflagrations is what episode’s to search for. Interesting stuff that I immediately thought of when I saw the carving y’all are talking about. I also thought of an astrological conjunction, or winter solstice as possible ritual ceremonies. Thanks for the interesting share!
@@iammymusictoo8525 Oh yes, I agree. The more I think about those round holes, I wonder if it were the full moon they were carving.
Tennessee is so beautiful. Thanks for the video!
It is a beautiful place. We have had a huge influx of people moving here and they are tearing up & developing a lot of Greenspaces. It’s a battle right now. The hospitable culture and wild spaces is what makes it great. Money & greed are what we are fighting.
@@warriorwoman5422 North Alabama to, nothing but nonstop apartment buildings and strip malls, more rock quarries and neighborhoods being built on the sides of mountains.
Yes I live in East Tennessee its such a beautiful area but between the tourist the new combers and all the illegals things are changing I don't like it much don't mind the tourist they bring great income to the area but the illegals and new comers are driving the housing market to skyrocket plus job paid more 4 years ago then they do now illegals will work super cheap. Whata going on I'm today's America is doing anyone any good.
exactly the same as in Europe like France or Sardinia, the same
Interesting.
Do you have pics or sites that share pics of those petroglyph? I think they'd be wonderful to see.
@@itsamysticlife3500. Just do an engine search.
Thank you! Looks like a beautiful place. The glyphs and markings made me imagine looking out of the cave at night, thru the bare winter branches with the starts peaking thru...
For comparison, in the European Middle Ages, writings included Dante, The Divine Comedy --
Geoffrey Chaucer, The Canterbury Tales --- Marco Polo, Travels --- Geoffrey of Monmouth, The History of the Kings of Britain --- Omar Khayyám, The Rubáiyát -- just to name a few.
But I suppose Native American chicken scratchings on a cave wall (during the same period) could be interesting too.
Yep, they are!
Did you notice the rock above the petroglyphs? It's a perfect horizontal line.. just found that interesting. Great video. Very relaxing. Thank you 🤗
That was the one thing that stood out for me. So happy to know someone else noticed that fact.
That's very interesting. I was born in Tennessee. But raised in California. I know very little about Tennessee. Glad to see something of it. Nice! ❤️
certainly there some "designs" there..but can't help wonder if some of the random holes and grooves aren't the result of using the rock as an abrasive to smooth or sharpen various tools..
What a great video! You give historical background; you show the site; you explain, and you show scale. Thanks so much.
Thank you
Great video. I’m curious about your background. Did you study geology, archaeology, biology or anything similar? BTW, You explain complicated stuff into an easily understood version. Very well done.
Thank you. I just have been doing this for a long time. No degree in archaeology. I am a caver so have been studying the outdoors and going underground in this area for almost 20 years. I am fascinated with what is around me. There is some research available online about this shelter so I have studied up on it a bit.
@@tag_caver what area are you in if ya don't mind me asking, I'm in middle Tennessee, the county I live in has the second most caves in Tennessee, just barely tho, it's almost neck and neck for the most and second most caves per county :) cheers!!
@@diychad7268 I am in Marion County
@@diychad7268 and what us your location, if you don't mind me asking,thanks
cool video !!!!!
What about snakes…..our infamous rattlers & copperheads that blend so amazingly with the cool weather landscape. ????
I always keep my eyes peeled for snakes! They actually usually hear/feel us (humans) coming and get out of the way.
Thank you for doing such a great job showing your area.
Thank you
Just came by your channel, thanks for sharing the cool video...2 questions..what's your take on bigfoot, have you ever had any weird instances in the Tennessee woods? Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed it!
Thank you. I've never had any Bigfoot experiences. Not sure I believe in it.
This takes my breath away it’s incredible beautiful I’m blessed that you share this thank you so much I’m learning about my history of native Indians blood line
Thank you and you are welcome. I feel so blessed to live where I do.
Fantastic video. I’m from Ontario Canada. I have travelled through Tennessee, and absolutely love that states the area, Urian kind of reminds me of Mammoth Cave, which I have travelled to in Kentucky. Awesome to see this precious sight!!!
SWEET. I collect Native American artifacts. They were all legally found, Surface Finds. I collect them to preserve history. Thank you so much for sharing this.
I find a few arrowheads. Just walking along lake & stream shores.
My great uncle found a honey pit in a field after it was plowed up right on a Bluff above a stream that turned into a river in flood season. Boxes of artifacts.
I'm not sure which tribe these artifacts were from.
Yeah try not to go there and steal or vandalize anything.
Indigenous have been in US for over 23,OOO YEARS. I know , my family is traced back to America.
Not native, scratched not pecked. Only scratch when too soft to peck. "Track" could be "letters" or design in association with something else.
I wonder if those petroglyphs represent asteroids? The deer tracks look like people to me also. Maybe it's describing some kind of cataclysm? I'd imagine anyone who'd seen that would be profoundly affected and want to record it in any way they could.
Awesome!!!! I love Tennessee
Me too!
I'm no expert so all I can do is make a guess.it appears a family of four lived there and the rest of those markings could be a calendar of history and among other things so I just wanted to take a guess
1000 yrs old, as if anyone can really base that guess on anything, no not the pot shards either
Have you never heard of carbon dating? And yes, they can use this method to help determine the dating of it.
carbon dating only works on material that was once alive, also carbon dating is based on too many assumptions from academia to be trusted.
@@tag_caver I didnt think you would have a comeback for my comment Lol!!
Thanks for a wonderful video.
Could you share which direction the shelter faces?
Also, had anyone done any archeoastrology work on the petroglyphs?
I have to laugh about the use of the term "ceremonial site". A friend, and fellow tribal member, was the head of a university archeology department and used to tell me that this phrase is archeo-speak for "we have no clue what this was". He said if the public knew this, then they wouldn't have any belief in what is presented as facts.
Again, thanks for the video and a any further details.
Apparently, we have no idea what all those lines and holes mean
Its all interpretation
I am moving back to Tennessee from Florida. I will be living in sharps chapel, working in Knoxville, and my father lives in maynardville. Do you have any suggestions for those areas, I'm glad I found your channel it's really cool I am subscribing. Please let me know if you can thank you
Look up the East Tennessee Grotto and the Smoky Mountain Grottos. They are both a good group of folks who meet reguarly in that area. They will be able to help you get underground. I live down in Marion County, about 3 hours south of there (near Chattanooga)!
They always say everything is 1000 years old. Much of it has to be a lot older.
More than likely
I love tennessee.
Me too ❤️
In today's culture we call it "GRAFFITI " & VANDALISM
yep
Great video. As a descendant of the Cherokee of Georgia, I like to think that one of my distant relatives may have visited that site, and how I would like to myself.
Peace ☮️
I imagined later natives using these caves then realised I was looking from a modern white perspective. Native Americans were modern people living in villages. They didn't need to live like cavemen. I guess they might well have sheltered from inclement weather here though. Greetings from Australia.
I SPENT ALMOST MY WHOLE LIFE DOING THIS VERY THING
Do you suppose the one at 10;05 minutes in could be a meteor? That would be something worth documenting to them. :)
this is awesome! I had the privilege of driving through TN and AR a few years ago and visiting some of the well-known sites like Petit Jean, Parkin, and Pinson mounds. Would love to come back and see some more of the off-the-beaten-path stuff. I live in MD now but have lived/worked/explored the southwest extensively. I really fell in love with AR and TN when I passed through.
We visited Petit Jean a few years back too!
That was amazing! I love finding sites like this too. Would be a very neat one to see, I think. I for sure live on the wrong side of the state! Do you think the fire ring also dates back to that time, or is it more modern? was just curious about that. Awesome vid! Subbed too, to see more of your adventures. Thanks!
Thank you. No on the fire ring as it was not there on my last visit a few years back.
I'm Caddo. These are from my people. We were removed .
The Caddo's did not live in this area, this is Tennessee. Caddo lived west of the Mississippi.
Happy to see these. Glad no one disturbed them
TN resident. Thank you for this video. I just found it. I am fascinated!
Sweet, thank you 😊
My favorite time of year to hike as well as the winter time, of course but I love the sound of the leaves crunching underneath your feet
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You should get some rubbings of the spring cave wall. There may be glyphs you can’t see with the naked eye because of the lichen and moss.
Good idea. I just might go do that.
At 12:18 you didn't even mention that black bear?
No black bears... They are extremely rare in this area.
@@tag_caver I was joking hee hee. Hoping people look
@@curtiscriscoe367 😂
Nice, ❤️ from West Virginia
This video is so interesting! The carving with the circle at the bottom with "tails" trailing upward, reminds me of a comet. I live in the North Georgia mountains and have often wondered if the rocky areas here have caves that were used. As a child, I enjoyed gathering flint arrowheads after the garden was plowed.
Seriously, right off the bat, why in the world would anyone be carving "deer trails" or "turkey trails" on the walls? Also, please go ahead and touch the walls, even in spite of all those "oils we have on our hands," as those carvings have apparently been there for "1000 years" and thus have likely seen and survived much worse than human "hand oil".
You do you, while I do me. It has been proven the oils on our hands can and will ruin rock formations. Ever been in a commercial cave and see the ones that everybody just has to touch, perfect example.
i see the same art i see everywhere lots of 7 s DCs DSC 777 and faces carved everywhere .
Looks like a bolide at eleven twenty, my favorite subject. From The Deep Ocean Above
What an awesome find! My dream job would be to work as a Park ranger and see awesome stuff like this all the time! How informative thanks for sharing!
Thank you
Make your dream come true. I think I would have definitely enjoyed that profession. It would be a great job.
The Only difference between petroglyph and graffiti == Time.
You have no idea how accurate the term bluff actually is for describing that area.
I believe those “turkey tracks” are actually depictions of trees based on other glyphs and art from native Americans from this time period. Thanks for sharing
There's a couple of caves really close to my house in Rheatown Tennessee . It's part of Chuckey , Tennessee
Here in Tennessee, there are over 11,500 caves. More than any other state.
Ya think those other indented circles are planets ...and other Life forms??🤠
Possibly
Could it be a place to prep game meats from hunting and a healing spot because of the natural spring water
Are you native
I have Cherokee TsaCohee - Bird clan
Yes, I have Cherokee ancestry
@@tag_caver I would love to show you some spots here where I live , in the Happy Valley area of Lenoir NC, I go to Wilson Creek Gorge our old summer hunting grounds for Reconnecting to creator and mother earth
@@desirreemarlenaclonch7593 Thank you. I would love to. If I ever get a chance to make it over that way, I will def reach out.
@@tag_caver as you see my screen name that my FB name as well, is this your FB name too , so I can messenger you my number and info
Well done and inspiring.
I agree with you, this site was most likely use for ceremony and medicine.
It has probably changed over centuries with new generations and visitors--but definitely a great site for spiritual reflection---near a water source, and inspiring location visually. Just imagine visiting the site at night when the trees are bare---I wonder what the skies, stars look like at night at that site. That might provide more insight into any ancient meaning of the site.
Those worn niches/holes in the cave wall may have held herbs, poltices, medicine. No part of the animal (be it bear, deer, wolf, eagle, turkey) went unused. All had a purpose.
I would imagine the flora was a lot different 1000 years ago as far as what trees were growing close by etc, maybe the sky was a lot more visible? Thank you for bringing this beautiful place into our lives.
The cupules are interesting (vertical). We have a site by us in AZ that has them in deferent sizes under a over hang in a creek bed and some horizonal too. I go with ceremony -
Fascinating video - thank you! Also, I have to say you have a wonderful speaking voice - very clear and pleasant with a nice Southern accent. That and the interesting subject make this an outstanding video.
Thank you
Thank you for this walk & talk on History, Love from the Netherlands
Thank you
They say.... They in reality don't know. Those Indian mounds aren't Indian the Indians did say, but the"They said" alphabet soup academic cults say they're to hide human history.I know where in East Texas where many mounds and petroglyphs are, ruts in stone as if machines in ancient times were there. European, African and Indian cultures have come and gone several times throughout the endless times in this continent. There's alot going on in these glyphs and are beautiful to say the least, and your awesome to dodge the snakes in there to show us, thank you.
Thank you
Is there any chance that turkey track is Orion's belt and Rigel?
Possibly? It's all in ones interpretation
Everyone ever born in Tennessee, "yeah, I got some Indian in me"...
I wasn't born in Tennessee...
Significant site. I believe the petroglyphs are much older than 1k.
An old friend of mine took me somewhere near rockcastle co ky to see some. Can’t for the life of me remember where!
Duane H King wrote a book called, The Cherokee Nation, A Troubled History. Very good book, Just a break down of a 17 Volume History of the Cherokee that is Home to the Mcclung Museum on the University of Tennessee Campus.
Those are not native American, they are ancient Welsh.
Ok
Very cool!
comet at 10:40?
I know where the earliest evidence of European habitation is in the State of Tennessee. A carving in limestone dated 1711. Probably French Voyagers.
Thx you for sharing your story
Thank you!
First time to your channel. Appreciate your work and enjoyed you showing and teaching us about this exciting shelter. VERY cool. You have me hooked and a new subscriber too. Keep up what you do as you are making a difference in the world !
Thank you
i figured our weather here wasnt conducive to maintaining petroglyphs ...glad to know otherwise i will keep an eye out now
I love stuff like this I've explored caves most my life and have found lots of Indian things where is this located I'd love to see this myself
Australian Aboriginals made petraglyph maps showing whereabouts of water, which is important in desert type environments. I wonder whether some of these are maps showing rock shelters for nomadic hunters to use. These are much more comfortable and convenient than carrying a dwelling or making one from scratch. Sadly much native knowledge is lost.
As someone who grew up in the mid west for 31 years I appreciate you posting this. The nostalgia of the land really brought a lot of peace to my heart during my struggles with my health. I'm also eastern native! So thank you so much for all of your time and efforts putting together such a beautiful video to share with us. Blessings and I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and New Years. ❤
Thank you and you as well
Although we are always facinated about their archeology and history, unfortunately we hardly ever hear about their current well being.
Hi there, the cave opening where the deer prints and the pit are, if you went there on the solstice and equinox you would find the dots and line follows a shadow line that matches the sun angle on those days. They did this so they knew how many months until the ceremony. It's a very clever system, to use the sun and shadows as a calender. There may be some zodiac patterns there also. Take care and merry Christmas to you and yours.
Nevermind! You answered my question in your next vid that I watched!
Sanilac Petroglyphs in Michigan Rocks Also.
Appalachian mountains are the oldest mountains in North America. I have long believed that they have never been explored as well as the area deserves.
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