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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- "Another white asshole deciding what I get to do, how I get to do it." -- Saga Anderson
And now we look at Remedy Entertainment's Alan Wake 2, and the Saga Anderson controversy. Apparently, for at least 5 years, the character (and actress, as Alan Wake 2 uses Full Motion Video with live actors) was set to be white. Sometime between 2016, at the release of Quatnum Break, and the easter egg of RETURN, showcased a white actress playing Saga.
Que Sweet Baby Inc's inclusion.
Now that's not saying Sam Lake and Kyle Rowley didn't want the change, and Kim Belair was the main influence to make said change. But Sweet Baby was clearly involved, and them spending money on a consulting firm for "inclusivity and representation" or whatever caused them to pull the trigger.
Odd, since there's a minority of single white mothers in America...which Saga is. I guess Kim wasn't aware of that statistic.
#sweetbabyinc
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isnt it interesting how a small company of 16, thats 5 years old get consulting jobs on almost every major AAA release?
🤔 what was it that Larry Fink of Black Rock said again?
*tinfoil hat* it's almost like the gov't had a hand in it
Yeah, there is clearly someone high up who wants Sweet Baby to exist and infect the industry with woke brain rot so badly, hence why all the insane seething and coping and even governments getting involved to protect tohse fuckeers form even getting critiziced, it's really insane.
Because they black
@@smurfie8412 -rock funded, you forgot the last part, but I got ya fam 😂😂😂
Every single word from Saga Anderson in this video is from Kim belairs own life experience . She said that she been held back by white men at Ubisoft. She talked about them in a VERY negative way. And she also said that she has carried so much hate. The context from espacially one interview is filled with hate and blame. Never asked herself if it could be that she was less skillfull.
Sad to see Remedy of all companies get involved with sbi. It's beyond my comprehension why the writer of Max Payne 1,2 and Alan Wake would need to hire consultancy writing company.
$$$
There is a very wide chasm, between "need" and "it puts the DIE in its game, or else it goes trending for being racist again!!!"
that was a life time ago.
Been a fan of Remedy for a long time, no more. They are dead to me now. Was excited for Max Payne remakes but I won't touch them now. Stay strong, don't support any company that pushes this agenda.
They didn't "need" to. They were "forced" to..
At least according to the Trillionaire elite far-leftist Larry Fink of Blackrock, who said "We have to FORCE behavior".
This portrayal of Saga Anderson as a black woman in Alan Wake 2 really highlights the forced nature and tokenism behind DEI. 'Saga' is literally a Norse name, and as far as appearances go, she was initially cast as such. That was the original intent behind the character. I have no issues with a black female lead in a video game like this; however, they should have entirely reimagined the character. Unfortunately, this race swap's laziness is evident for all to see. There was no tact or effort put into it at all.
Stop ✋️ being jealous 🤬
Seeing as remedy games are interconnected, Saga being black makes sense. Her mother is scandinavian and her father is Mr Hatch/Mr Door.
@@rebotsomat I mean I dislike woke stuff the same as these guys but alan wake 2 wasn't as woke as other offenders such as suicide squad, Forspoken or any of the others
To be fair, I'm sure the norse provenance of the name was completely lost on the idiots at SBI. Sure, laziness was probably involved, but I would wager that general ignorance and a lack of respect for history are the main reasons this "race swap" happened the way it did.
@@totalrko Maybe take a step back and realize that "woke" doesn't actually mean anything and is only used when black or woman or gays are in a story. They will also always pick something that is a bad product be it movie, game, etc, then proceed to point at it while saying "see woke equals broke." While glossing over every great product that by their definition is also "woke." Case and point this game, baldurs gate 3, barbie, hell if cartoon Avatar: The Last Airbender came out today they would be pissing and moaning like children. They were probably mad when Samuel L Jackson was cast to play Nick Fury.
Don't forget, SBinc worked on both GOW Ragnarök and AW2, and the two won several Game Awards at TGA that didn't make sense, specially considering the other titles they were competing against (GOW: Best Narrative, Best Score and Music, Best Audio design, Best Action Adventure / AW2: Best Game direction, Best Art direction, Best Narrative). There is a clear agenda behind all this to push these "consultancy" companies amongst like-minded developers, grifters have rotted the industry to its core.
The fact that Melanie got nominated over Matthew for acting despite constantly losing her accent and just all around not having a great performance while Matt gave it his all is a clear give away
its indiefensable all over again.
TGA is pretty much games journo determined too, they have like 90% votes in every category except Player's Choice. Those same journos are currently running defense for SBI. It's all one big circle jerk.
Sam Lake deserved it. This guy is genius as a storyteller. And I swear if not him, Alan Woke would be much much worse.
@@charmingpeasant9834 well, SBI ideas were injected into Spiderman 2 too, but it falied miserably
Sam Lake, I believe, has wanted to make an Alan Wake sequel for years but when Microsoft owned the Alan Wake IP they would not green light a sequel to be made because the first game was not financially successful enough for Microsoft. Remedy, around 2019, acquired the rights to the Alan Wake IP and then they released the Remaster version of the first game as a multiplatform release. I think that these "Sweet Baby" changes were the compromise that Remedy felt had to be made in order for the game to get its ESG financial funding and actually be made (for better or worse). Kinda sounds like Remedy made a deal with the 'Dark Presence' for the sequel to finally see the 'light' of day.
@@rebotsomat maybe SBI involvement was used for extra funding? I dunno that's just me speculating. Epic funding would explain the Epic PC store exclusivity.
@@VideoDiscThings "I dunno that's just me speculating." Yeah, cause you have a smooth brain.
@@Darkchipper07 Charming. You sound like you work with the racists at Sweet Baby.
@@VideoDiscThings are you also speculating on if I work there? Another smooth brain conspiracy. Hey now link "woke" to why women don't want to be near you. It's not your personality it's the women that are the problem.
@@Darkchipper07 shilling for SBI again. Here's an idea fuck head, fuck off!
its minblowing to me how they will deny they did this even they did and said they did it.
Ive been inspired by Sweet Baby inc. I want to start a consulting company that teaches devs how to actually analyze data so their "balance" patches aren't just nerf your favorite thing and use the flavor of the month meta.
And how would this drive up their revenues measurably? How many people will you need to employ to 'live beta test' all the multiplayer games of the moment, collate the data (initially without access to APIs let alone the game code itself).. and then pass this info back to the devs? If you're trying to get the data analyzed BEFORE the patch.. you'd basically need to already be working alongside the software engineers.
Basically, shitty balance patches are a direct result of the budgets of the studio. If they could afford to do more testing already, they would. But look, I'd love to see you find a way to market this 'outsourced testing team' idea. I really do think the industry is in need of some more reputable companies!
@phattjohnson Well, for starters, it would make those who can understand a small joke laugh.
@@gibster9624 fuck, I'd pay for that!
And they said they never changed her race. Proof is in a tweet from 2015. Do they really think we are stupid?
I think they just take too many pharmaceuticals and are very forgetful.
They never said that.
not only did they never said tyhat but the "proof" from 2015 is from a different universe, QB and AW are different universes from each other.
The game seemed fine but painfully slow paced, so just not for me at first. The "another white asshole" part made it irredeemable to me though. It's said so casually out of nowhere it's disgusting. The potential shallow raceswapping certainely doesn't help.
100% that phrase was written by some hateful Sweet Baby racist asshole
It's said with utter hatred and disgust.
Race-swapping is always cringe. After what the the M-She-U did to Asgard and Nick Fury (I love Jackson, he's just not Nick Fury) I quit giving Pedowood my money.
Race-grifting, swapping, pandering, etc., is ALWAYS CRINGE. Stop pandering to SBI.
What do you mean POTENTIAL..? this video (or simply the evidence itself if you look it up) shows that the race-swap in AW2 is a deliberate act of pandering.
@@phattjohnson Oh don't get me wrong the game is tacky as fuck regardless. I said it like this is because some said the video was from a "proof of concept" kind of video (Which is very early stuff and does sometime change a lot overtime.) and wasn't 100% sure in that regard. I checked the video before replying and it's a teaser trailer which does make the change feel a lot more deliberate.
Make a Tarzan Game with a black main character. I'll wait
Lol Tarzan was actually black and he wasn't ah good guy and yes the white man was ah dick 😂😂😂😂 lol go figure!!!!
Even though it's called Alan Wake 2 saga gets more screen time then him along with getting demoted from being the hero of his own story to now Saga is the hero save the day. Thought Sam Lake was a decent writer why would he need a outside source telling him how to write a story when he being doing fine all these years.
Likely he was afraid of them like any developer at the moment. Or just trying to be nice with the community without realizing the actual agenda.
And now we know why games are taking so long to make. They keep injecting so much bs they have to rewrite the story as originally planned and don't have the time, energy, or the commitment to ensure a well written cohesive story so a lot of the dialogue just sounds like a note on a storyboard that never got the proper attention it deserves.
"It injects the DIE in its game, or else it gets called out again!!!"
He was afraid of being called a "list" if he didnt bend the knee to their demands. Thats how they work.
@@rebotsomat cope.
'Saga' is literally a name of the Goddess from Norse Myth. And Norse people are white not black. But this simple logic is too much for their agenda.
GoW Ragnarog where SBI is involved also change a historically white character Angrboda to black.
I can never take all of these representation seriously until they change Mulan to black, do that and I'll have more respect to these race rep bs.
Black people can't be named Saga. Right. You're a smart boy aren't you?
@@feerfree8986 In all of Norse history Angrboda is mentioned once in one passage. They never describe her looks or race at all. So just to be clear, Angrboda is not "historically white"
You know how the bible has passages like "And Shem, father of Ahab and Eli" and stuff like that? That is the extent of Angrbodas history in Norse mythology. Angrboda, wife of Loki, mother of Fenrir, etc. etc. Not one mention of how she looks physically.
She's a giantess who gave birth to a wolf and Snake and married Loki.
But you hate Loki too, right? In Norse mythology Loki isn't half Greek. Mimir isn't Celtic either so that must have pissed you off too. I mean since race and ethnicity is so important to you? You only care about the black one? Why?
We don't know if she was even race swapped because in all of Norse mythology she is mentioned once in passing. But Loki we do know was swapped. But you don't care about that... I don't know man the narrative seems pretty obvious.
And what a weird ass thing to get hung up on. I mean in the GoW universe all the mythologies co exist with each other. So are you telling me that Mt. Olympus exists in Midgard? If the world snake exists in the same world then why doesn't Poseidon know that oceans and lakes formed from the world snakes movements. How is Chronos the keeper of time if Ygrdrassil exists? Why can the wolves chase the sun away if the sun is the god Ra?
None of it fucking makes any sense whatsoever, but you choose to get hung up on the color of a black girls skin? THATS what breaks the historical immersion from you?
You think her being black disrespects the Norse? In the same game where you play as a Greek God who slaughters all their gods?
Ok...
@@feerfree8986 Angrboda is not "historically white". Her race and physical appearance is never mentioned. She is literally mentioned in only one passage.
Well she's half black but still
Gave Alan Woke 2 a hard pass, and will do so for every 'game' SBI are involved in.
Yup. It's a pretty simple formula for me.
I am a simple man , Whenever I see SBI I vomit and hard pass on that game , its not even worth riding the high seas(Pirating) for that crap
As much as I want SBI pushed out of gaiming, Alan Wake 2 is still a good game.
Yeah i almost baught it but did a bit of research and read about what theyd dine with the whole saga thing and "white assholes" and decided against it. My mate who did buy it said he wished he hadnt and cant bring himself to play any more of it.
Did the same and it's a shame cause I'm a huge Alan Wake fan 😡😡😡
I ignored Alan Woke 2.
Given that it was digital only as well made it very easy for me to ignore it also
Because your Trump voter
@@smurfie8412and? You bought it because you are a Biden voter? I’m not even American and I ignored it as well.
Most people ignore it
Mock it.
Evil hates mockery.
The irony is that despite this happening, normies will still consooom this glorified pig slop.
only sold like 1.5m copies
@@Ravix0fFourHorn And that was on the legacy of the original game.
@@Ravix0fFourHorn 1.5m too many
@@Ravix0fFourHorn watching the game award and how they smelled their own fart over this game. just to sell 1.5m is one of the funniest white bills ever.
@@lcmiracle why's that?
It _sure_ got them a lot of attention at the phoney _Game Awards,_ huh? Too bad it doesn't see to have translated into actual sales.
Alan Wake 2 sold 1.4 million without a physical and Steam release. Given those two added together around 70% of sales then yeah, it did very well. It was a massive success.
You might not understand how things work relative to each other, but Sam Lake had an interview yesterday where he said the sales far exceeded their expectations
The original Alan Wake sold $325k it's first month. Alan Wake 2 sold 1.4 million on less platforms.
@@lukaszzylik4437crap!!
Don't be surprised if Remedy ends up shutting down at some point
If their White guilt lets them infect the Max Payne remakes with anti-Caucasian, far-left Marxist nonsense, then their studio will end up shutting down because no one will be buying their titles.
I dread who might end up acquiring them and swallow up their IP's not that one is inherently better or worse, I just don't think they would put the time or effort needed, into making more game with those IP's.
Agreed but to be honest I loven Alan wake OG AND the remastered it's fantastic I love it it's ah classic that it's finally on PS4 and Xbox one x is amazingly beautiful good but sadly enough ❤❤❤ Alan wake the new nightmare died after that it felt like ah goodbye ending since the actress Alice died years ago! Therefore she was not meant to go on forever...and it's been years since the first true sequel sadly enough that's where the story ends up being wokeness
Won't be for some time. Alan Wake 2 was a success and they are developing the Max Payne Remake that will def generate more sales no doubt.
Sweet Baby Inc. is the reason I will not buy and play this game (I love Alan Wake 1) along with many others.
Same.
Same. I'm only now just playing the first one for the first time and I'm really enjoying it. I was like "wow maybe 2 is really good! That just came out. Let me look into it...... oh I see....". Just gonna casually pretend the 1st game is a standalone project.
@@whiskii Definitely better off treating it like it's a one and done. Was looking forward to Alan Wake 2 and then I saw the switch-a-roo with Saga Anderson and was like nope. Glad I didn't buy it, which is a shame cos I love Remedy and Alan Wake, but hey, we still have the first one and a backlog of good games as well. So let's keep voting with our wallets and not support this nonsense. Glad you had fun with the first game! Try the spin off, Alan Wake's American Nightmare, you might enjoy it!
before Alan Woke 2 was released. I was telling people that this character was raced swapped. I love Alan Wake 1. but you get so many people defending woke shit. fuck sweet baby inc. also alan wake 2 didn't break even with what they sold so far. that shows you how expensive these games are and how 1 game can crash a company.
Same here. I couldnt believe how cool all these stupid gamers were with this. A talented white actress lost her job to act as this character just to make room for some random ungrateful racist black woman
@@rebotsomat sucks for them it didn't break even on costs. you should know games like alan wake and spider man 2 need to sell above 5m to show profit. same goes with GTA6 when it comes out, and now it's tied to sweet baby inc who knows. I doubt Control 2 will sell 2m
@@rebotsomat It's a financial failure. It could have sold way better without the stupid forced black female main character. They know this, I know this and clearly you need to learn it because you are simping for retarded corporations who are intentionally destroying your hobbies.
@@rebotsomat sorry you're upset when a franchise doesn't make profit. if they kept politicts out of it would have as good as palword and helldivers. wokeness is not profitable and you seem to love race swapping characters.
@@rebotsomat how is horror niche? Silent Hill, Dead by Daylight, Resident Evil and Dead Space just to name a few that are very popular. Also Alan Wake and American Nightmare sold more than 4.5 million copies back before the remaster even released. I wouldn't call that "niche."
Im fine without any other remedy game
6:40 That scene sounds like Saga is the demon Alan has to fight and overcome, as she is taking control of him.
A little info about how Saga being black kinda make sense... Saga Anderson is a European sounding name and probably comes from her mother Freya's side who was white and the Daughter of Tor, one of the OG characters who are "Seers" in the overarching plot. Saga's Father is Mr. Door who you encounter in Live action parts of the game so that makes Saga Mixed by defination. Mr. Door even threatens Alan towards the end because he involved Saga into his story.
That "white man" line is the "Other Saga" which was the manifestations of her dark thoughts cranked up to 11 and that Other Saga says some pretty stupid stuff... Like I killed my Daughter, killed my partner Casey etc and its all presented as the talkings of a Lunatic (but her "white man" line also took me by surprise but kinda makes scene as its the ramblings of a Lunatic).
She is a single mother in only the story "Return" that Alan Wake wrote as Scratch but in reality she is happily married with David.
I get SBI is a scourge on the industry but this game is alright in my books when compared to other abominations from AAA studios and we should give Sam Lake a break.
No. Stop defending garbage. You are part of the problem.
In the first hour of the game its declared that she is a better detective then him. Tearing others down to bring others up. Its clear the pathology that wrote this C R A P
Just another WOKE ASSHOLE!
She’s considered a better detective because she can literally read minds not because of some stupid made up reason you came up with
@@levimoreira3996 The entire game is made up. She is written, the game is fiction. Slow boy. Thats the point
That makes sense since Wake literally wrote her into the story. The original protagonist was Casey, so that's basically Wake deleting some lines and adding new ones to make Saga fit into the story.
Indeed,i didn't buy alan wake 2 just because of the character swap.
I had this game in my wish list for months.
A big red flag for me when i see they do these things.
I wasn't wrong.
Protect Japan and don't buy any games that any of these people are involved in no matter what company they keep creating.
these people perhaps not SBI even go so far as to change a historical character black, Anne Boleyn as an example, what an insane thing to do
they're angry if we say anything about it, "it's fiction, it's not that important" yet care enough to change the character.
they wish for this to continue, what a joke.
Thankfully the game has barely sold 1.5 million copies
Yep. Pretty sure this saga had a huge role in turning I'd bet at least 500k people off from buying the game. Myself included. And I'm a huge fan of the first game.
@@vincentwolf1456I'd say more are put off by the SBI bs than 500k. This has seeped in like toxic gas and, always remember, people opposing woke bs are a silent majority. By a LOT. Most common people hate this era of woke.
I was going through the Steam community the other day and there's so much discussion on SBI bs. Even profiles of people calling themselves "Sweet Baby Inc Enjoyer" and having a profile pic of some fat blue haired, angry woman lmfao. Its certainly put me off this game, and I'm only just playing the first one, which I'm really enjoying. 2nd one? Not fussed. Will probably pretend it never existed and there was never a sequel.
@@vincentwolf1456Yep. I was planning on paying full price for this, but the Soy Squad disaster has really pulled the sheets on SBI and opened my eyes, I didn’t even know who they were. Definitely NOT supporting this. Nope, no way, which is a shame since I really enjoyed AW1, even got platinum..😕
@TheGOAT-hj6slSBI will probably be involved, plus James Mcaffrey the voice of May payne passed away, the game won’t be the same without him anyway
keep 'em coming, Smud. Good work
Alan Woke 2.
6:10 That dialogue is just so on the nose it makes me involuntarily role my eyes into the back of my head. People say this game is good?...
It does sound needlessly condescending and that Saga already knows more about the Darkness and how it works, when any other normal human being, would be near passing out from fear and ask as many questions as possible.
Wonder if they'll do this to Control 2 and fire Courtney Hope.
Please no!
kek, according to pattern they'll change to a new director at the end of the game, passing the torch to a new "better, stronger, and obviously not pushed there artificially character"
This game is a wonderful showcase of the latest woke technologies gaming industry has to offer.
Woke scolds insist "games have always been political!". No, games have always contained political themes. This type of politics is meta to the game. It's real life politics that is actually IGNORED in the game's universe. No one ever says "Uhh... Saga... didn't you used to be... white?". No, the change is completely ignored. It's meant to provoke controversy and woke nonsense irl. That's the difference. This has actually been called 'character agnosticism'. The game has be to completely open to the details of the character's identity. Sometimes it's a normal aspect of a game. In Dark Souls you can make your character male or female, so dialogue in cutscenes is written with character agnosticism. No boss says "Ah, he is here at last", in case you chose to play as a woman. But because of woke scolds, this agnosticism must be applied in ham fisted ways across media. Take Rings of Power. There is now a fucking Puerto Rican elf in Middle Earth. We're expected to believe that elves are so high minded that elves of different skin tone wouldn't have resulted in any social consequences for their kind, even though we know they had what we might consider discriminatory attitudes towards other races and even half elves. Now Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits and Men of Middle Earth are ludicrously diverse but it means nothing in that world and no one even seems to notice it or mention it lol.
Yes, I was shocked in the game when I heard Saga Anderson told about her Norwegian ancestry. It could very well be explained that she is mixed race. But the character doesn't look like mixed race. The Saga in the game looks purely African. If you want a black character make a black back story. This looks like a patched-up job.
Hey if Cleopatra can be black so can the whitest people on EARTH. Fuck this BS
Saga looks exactly like her actress and the actress is mixed, what are you on about
Another banger from smudboy a big plus
ESG Corporate Loans strike again?
The Alan Wake portions of the game within AW2 were excellent. Every time you are forced to play as Saga it felt like a chore.
Not only they've altered Saga's story as they also ruined Alan Wake's character. He turned from hero to an aggressive *toxic* loser
He was toxic in the first game as well
He basically turns into an all powerful entity at the end of the game.
Saga Anderson in Alan Wake 2 is not a single mother. She's married. Might want to play the game first before diving into conclusions.
WOW! EXCELLENT VIDEO! NAILED IT!
I honestly thought Kratos was going to end Thor but SBI thought it’d be a good idea for a daddy talk in the middle of ragnarok. 😂
Wild af I remember arguing with a friend that Saga was a weird character to include into Alan Wake 2 and the way I kinda came around to what they were saying is "Well she's at least an original character it's not like they took someone from the first game and ham-fisted them into the role" little did I know that's EXACTLY what they had done and my instincts were 100% on point 😂
Seeing Remedy destroy themselves for DEI money was a punch in the gut.
Why the hell did it take 13 years to make a game as crappy as Alan Wake 2
It obviously didn’t take 13 years as they had other games being made. The game didn’t start development till 2020 they just had ideas over the years
@@berice4390no the had problem
Man after Epic store time exclusivity runs out and they will release this game on steam it will CRASH hard in sales. Remedy literally dug out their own grave now.
I dont know if it ever releases on steam since Epic funded these games.
The chance is very low, since Epic funded the game
Time to interview the original saga
Ahe wont say anything either because she agrees with the agenda or because she wouldnt wanna ruin her career by being labeled a bigot
that was not the best idea REMEDY.. I mean I love Alan Wake 2, its an amazing game, even the character Saga is awesome, the voice acting etc. But, this is obviously a Norse inspired enviroment, and I had a very hard time believing that Thor and Odin had an african wife and daughter. Seemed like a ,,Disney move" if you know what I mean.
Her father is Mr. Door. Her mother was Freya, Tor's daughter. The actress and the character is biracial.
I believe she's not a single mom because she has a husband named David. Saga actually fit the narrative since Saga's father is Mr. Door which is a black man, allegedly. Guys, I hate SBI too but don't skip AW2 because you'll miss out. It's a great game and they don't make Saga this out of touch racist woke character. Some of the black characters are, but she's not.
It’s a great game but the wokeness ruined a little bit
I think people should play more SEGA's game and jappanese studio games overall
The fact that this game came out as bad as it did is truly heartbreaking. I've been a lifelong fan of Remedy since Max Payne 1, and was SO excited when Alan Wake 2 was finally announced.. I'm probably never going to play it now and that really bums me out.
The game is great, and despite what people who haven't played it or finished it say, it isn't woke. It's not political, it ties in very well with control. The acting, especially in Alan's segments are amazing. And the tone of the game is top notch. It's a Remedy take on Survival Horror and it's great. One of the best of last year.
It mainly got a lot of crap for being digital only, and Epic exclusive, which happened because Epic literally funded it.
@@bishopcruzwhile it is subtle, it is woke, kind of like Horizon Zero Dawn. If you aren't aware of things, you won't notice them, but it would be like if everyone had wh*ite cloaks on and you didn't know about the triple K squad, just because you can't recognize it doesn't mean it isn't there.
I played the game, from the beginning it looked and felt great until I got to the combat, which just feels wonky and it has no direction. Like the first boss battle, I wasn't sure if I was doing damage the whole time. Once I got to Alans section, I felt a bit lost wandering the streets and just wasn't enjoying it any more, so I dropped it.
If I didn't feel misdirected from the get go, not playing Alan, and didn't quickly realize why they chose the MC, and if I could have figured out what to do earlier on (first scene in the morgue I wasn't sure where I was supposed to run to), maybe I would have enjoyed it more.
@@Excalibur2 Combat is the weak point, yes. But generally it works well for an old school Survival Horror feel, which is what the game was going for. Shame you missed out on the aAlan stuff, because holy crap that section was flat out amazing. Though I suppose I played switching between the two at different points. And trust me, I know forced woke when I see it, and honestly at this point people are so hyper sensitive they have become a mirror of the lefties who see racism everywhere.
As for misdirection, alleged racebending aside, the dual protagonist narrative works, as Alan is trapped in the dark place, having someone working the case in the real world makes sense. It also gives an outside perspective for newcomers as part 1 was 13 years prior, and American Wasteland didn't move the story needle.
@@bishopcruz it wasn't allegedly, original videos of early trailers exist and it is openly admitted that she was changed later on.
But I hear what you're saying, people are oversensitive, but this is the natural flow of things after being burned so many times. I'll be playing a game and then something cartoonish and out of place happens that throws you out of the game, that reminds you that the people who made the game hate you.
Imagine if while playing a game, the character stopped and looked at the screen and whispered the n word. Sure, it wouldn't change the game hardly at all, but it's weird, and I'm glad people are finally pushing back, even if only a little.
I'll probably watch someone do a Let's Play at some point, that way I can skip to the better parts. I ended up doing that with that last kojima game, saved myself many hours of walking.
@@Excalibur2 But that trailer was at best a concept video of what they were thinking at the time. I wonder if people would have had as much of an issue if it was just a regular recasting of that actress with a white actress.
Fact is we don't know if the change to make her Door's daughter was before or after they decided to cast the actress, and considering the actress is biracial, then it seems like it was done after. There was at best, a general idea of what Alan Wake 2 was going to be when that concept trailer was made. It wasn't in production, and wouldn't be for years. It was basically a fun shout out for fans of Alan Wake, but as Sam Lake even said at the time, the game was not in active development, and would not be for years.
Characters and ideas change from early concepts to actual production. It happens all the time, and iit's different than say what it would be if Saga was a character who existed in AW1 and then was changed in the sequel, ala Deadshot in Suicide Squad.
Did you even play the game or watch the first 30min. She is a mom and married.
Honestly it was something I liked, cause Hollywood has been hating on moms lately!
I still need to finish this myself but you gotta get those details right
he doesnt care about getting things right lol he just wants to farm rage
Yeah, did this guy even play the game lmao. David is Saga's husband, you know the guy Saga speaks to in the game a couple times on the phone. Logan's dad, Saga's husband...David Woods.🤣
im just curious on if it was SBI decison to make the change to recast her to a black actress cause the articles ive seen make it sound like they recast her before SBI got involved.
Would it make much of a difference?
Because in both scenarios they were sought out because one of the developers wanted to diversify their game (...either due to genuine leftist zeal, or for sake of cash influx from Blackrock and co.).
i just think the record should be straight cause a lot of people saying this
was purely a SBI thing.
@@TheNSJaws
Doesnt matter. Some cringe sjw leftist somwhere decided that this beautiful talented white actress should lose her job / character in favor of some no name cringey racist black woman who only is focused on the color of her skin (watch her interview about this game)
it was sbi. i read those articles aswell lol its very clear theyre lying to support the source that helps them get money from black rock quarry
That’s because her character is of mixed race her mom is white and her dad is black so her race wasn’t necessarily swapped. But the real influence SBI had on the game was it’s dialogue and that’s the problem with this game.
i don't like SBinc or any woke shit, but some errors are in this video : Saga isn't a single mom, she is married to a character named David, and the "white asshole" thing is said by an evil version of Saga so I guess it doesn't represent Saga (plus all the characters were kind/respectful to Saga) (tho if she said : "another black asshole", the game would have been destroyed by medias and critics)
"(tho if she said : "another black asshole", the game would have been destroyed by medias and critics)"
Precisely.
I bet Mona Sax will be black in the Max Payne remake.
Oh I want in on this I bet she’ll black AND she’s gonna a whole ass race lecture.
Max payne originally british not black
Ohh boy let's HOPE NOT!!!
They will force some woke crap for sure
Anti white racism is so hot right now.
And they said "It's not white replacement!". Yet now, we have example, after example, after example..
Loved Alan Wake 2, and was looking for more content. But it was a mistake clicking on this racist video. Plus, some of the comments here are vile. So i quickly turned it off, and turned off any recommendations from this channel.
she was talking about how she's of swedish descent and Thor and odin and stuff I was like but... what ? 🤔
her father is Door
I might have dementia but Saga was not a single mother as far as i remember. Her mother was a single mother but i assumed she was white although i am not sure if that was ever confirmed.
It was confirmed. Saga is married, happily with a daughter. Her mother was a single mom, and white, the daughter of Tor from the old gods of Asgard. Her father was Mr. Door, the tlak show host.
Smud did about zero research on this video. Basic facts and context are wrong.
@@bishopcruz Jesus they really ruined the series
@olechristianhenne6583 in what way have they ruined the series? Because Tor's daughter had a child with a black man?
Who else plays the "How quick a black woman appears in every...single....new....game....trailor" you watch on youtube? ... "racist/progressive/woke politics is poisoning gaming (as well as every other facet of life).
Allan "woke" 2
HAHA! A-O!
literally finished this game today, regretting my wasted time lmao
I can’t believe a game that loved so much, has this fu…. consulting from SB INC :(, shit it’s so disappointing. It’s really a good game and Jesus :(…. I think we will never see the end of the spiral
Nothing makes me more happy than seeing all this stuff come out and SBI exposed for everything
I just started max Payne 1. One of my favorite games of all time is MP3. I have so many older games to play, I dont need this modern BS.
It's a shame the Sweet Baby Inc affair happened after Alan Wake 2 was released. Remedy need to learn that they shouldn't use Sweet Baby but may feel like they can get away with it .
She is also supposed to be directly descended from Tor Anderson, one of the Old Gods of Asgard (the band), a white man :D
She's biracial, the actress, and the character. And her father is Mr. Door. At least KNOW something about the thing you are critiquing.
@@bishopcruzstill shit
Sam had to bend the knee to the woke cult so they would help him make Alan Wake 2.
I don't really blame him, imagine wanting to make a game for more than 10 years and someone comes and
tells you that they can make that a reality but you have to change some aspects of your game.
You have not played the game or really done your research about the production process, and it shows. There are several mistakes and important omissions in what you are saying here. For one thing, Saga is not a single mother, in the story she calls her husband David, Logan's father, several times. And David is also who she is trying to call at the end of the game. Another thing is that there *is* an obvious story reason why Saga has a mixed race background - her father is black, and he also appears in an important role in the game.
Making Malla Malmivaara's role in the Quantum Break easter egg video into a big thing is just silly. She was cast only for the video, there was no concrete plan for her to act in the eventual game itself. This is because in 2015 when that video was made, Remedy didn't even know that they will get to make AW2. When they got the resources for finally making the game several years later, the plans for the game had changed several times. At that point, they would have cast a native English speaker in the role of Saga Anderson, not Malmivaara, even if it was still a white character. In Quantum Break and after it, Remedy have no longer cast separate voice and mocap actors for new characters, but only for established, iconic ones (like Alan Wake himself). Saga Anderson was not an established, iconic character prior to 2023, the 2015 version being just a rough concept sketch of a potential future character. Malla Malmivaara has never played a major English language role during her career, so she would have been a poor choice for an actress portraying a native English-speaking FBI agent.
While you are saying that it is not known when or how long Sweet Baby Inc worked with Remedy on the game, it is in fact known because the company said in a LinkedIn post in 2023 that they worked for a "few months" with Remedy in 2022. Given that the game's production process was quite far along by that stage, it is very likely they only got involved in the process after the actors for the main characters had already been cast.
There would be a lot more to say but I don't think it would really be worth it to use any more of my time picking the video apart. I've already shown that it leaves a lot to be desired in terms of research and verifiable facts. But you have your own opinions and views, so I guess that is OK. You have probably given your intended audience exactly what they want.
We need to stop this denial. Even if we say SBI had nothing to do with it, all it means that they are woke without outside contractors, which is pretty believable.
I have simple principal, if activists were involved in making a game i don't support it, activist out of entertainment, it has no place in entertainment, cause if we accept it then it will grow only bigger until hole entertainment is ruined
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@@ShadowWizard You have all the right to be critical of the views and attitudes of game devs, and the people they collaborate with to create games. And it is of course your right to not buy and play games made by people who you don't agree with.
Then again, your comment is not really relevant to my comment above. I was critical of the obvious mistakes and apparent lack of research evident in the video, I am not really saying anything about the views supported by Remedy or Sweet Baby employees, or whether they are good or bad for games.
@@BorsukowskiB that's fair, SBI shills do same (lack of research), some even don't care about digging in to it deeper, they care more about clicks, and ppl like this exists on both sides
If Remedy returned to making enjoyable games with strong gameplay they would have better sales and wouldn't need Blackmail's ESG funding.
just another great company wokified by the stupid influence of cry baby inc... its a shame, i really had hopes for this studio, as it was one of my favourite ones because theyve made a lot of games that i fell in love with including quantum break, control and alan wake 1, but ig it didnt rly last long, like all things... rest in peace, remedy, rocksteady, ubisoft etc. your sacrifice will mean absolutely fucking nothing because you sold your souls, I GUESS NOW IT MAKES SENSE WHY BLACK ROCK QUARY EXISTS IN CONTROL
I waited so long for Alan Wake 2 and we get this slop. What's next? Pilate Providence: A Max Payne Spin-off? F you Remedy and Sam Lake for ruining this for me.
Have you played the game from start to finish without letting other people's lies influence your opinion?
@@cthulhucrews6602 I've seen enough. Chick literally whines about "another white male" controlling her or some bs - while I'm the current year, that is a realistic statement someone might say, I personally feel it has no place in the game's narrative, so I'm not spending money on it.
@@the9revan933 She doesn't whine about it. It's not her speaking.
@@cthulhucrews6602 Either way, I'm still got getting it. It's fine if you enjoyed it - I won't.
I'd have never bought the game if I knew this before, my damn bad mistake
I pirated this game for future play, just now I uninstalled it!
I did the same and no regrets either.
As a gamer Alan Wake is one of my most favorite games and its a shame that I'll probably never buy Alan Woke 2 because the anti-white narrative and Wokeness. I also urge gamers to do the same with games and simply not buy them at full price or not at all...
I saw the warning signs with the Remedy DLC to the Control game. I'm not sure if that was when they started to work with these companies for the DEI aganda but the Control DLC was just dripping with the "girl boss" schtick. Such a pity because the base game was excellent and displayed very little that could be classified as "woke". From what i saw of AW2 the trend continued. Saga; another bland, faultless, insipid protagonist that was about as interesting a character as a cardboard sandwich.
I watch Skill Up weekly game news… no mention of SBI which is interesting and he loved this game, a little too much
And how they helped to tank the studio.😂😂😂
happy St paddys day to all, especially Kabrutus 291,255 🤣... make that 291,256
But SBI thinks in stereotypes, so everything is logical
It's disgusting.
I know itleast the remastered was good
Please don't mess up the max payne remakes remedy.
Gonna be honest. If someone made a scandinavian, blonde, blue eyed character that was named Laquesha Brown, that game would be cancelled to hell and back. Sprinkle in the fact that this character logically wouldn't be named this unless they had strong white heritage alongside any black heritage. Logically speaking, she would be half-black with a white mother most likely.
She is half-black since her grandfather is one of the Anderson biker & rocker brothers. Her mother (white) mostly likely married Mr. Door.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth dont bother man none of these people played the game lmaoo
dude she is exactly mixed and her mother is white and of finnish heritage lol
this remind me how they changed lawan in dying light 2. in early game footage she were white too (in the 2021 official gameplay trailer. you can see that. DL2 was released in 2022 btw)
They had her be white in initial trailers to hide the reveal. They said this.
What a sad waste. The first version was hot. That's probably part of what they didn't like.
There is definitely some interference in Alan Wake 2, especially with the character Saga, who is overly 'woke.' She almost never makes mistakes, unlike Alan, who keeps making mistakes all the time. Moreover, he’s been stuck in there for 13 years, while Saga probably takes less than 13 minutes.
Changing just the outer appearance does not promote 'woke' values at all. It only makes people hate it because it worsens the storyline and doesn't support the game itself.
But a character like Mr. Door is definitely one that Remedy came up with. He fits seamlessly into the storyline, and his personality is intriguing and mysterious right from the start.
Saga being changed to a black woman doesn't bother me, it makes sense considering that a certain character is her father. Saga's first appearance was as an easteregg in Quantum Break, a game in which her possible father was also introduced. It's been so many years since this game was released that I think it's plausible that the character didn't have a defined origin at that time and they used a random Finnish actress to play her. SBI's influence on this game is probably in the dialogue, when Saga calls Alan a white asshole. The final part in Saga's mind palace and the lunch boxes reaffirming her all the time are fucking cringe and have the rotten smell of SBI's work. And saga is not single. She is married and her husband is taking care of her daughter
1/3rd of the messages in the boxes are just positive words of affirmation
1/3rd are weird You're a Hero!/Alan is great!
1/3rd are some female romance zombie survival story...
Was this some sort of joke on Casey? But then you learn they were planted by Rose, and it all makes sense (as much as Alan Wake 2 can make sense.)
Yea if Door/Hatch is her Dad as it's heavily implied then the race swap does make some sense, but the cringe dialogue, especially at the end, that's 100% "Strong Wahmen OF COLOR" bullshit. Her 'heros journey' is just recognizing how awesome she is. But the part that really grinded my gears, even more than the 'white asshole' comment, was how she gave 'permission' to Alan to be a 'hero too' at the end. Bitch know your place, this man spent 13 years in actual hell as a sacrifice to save his wife (which they of course have to negate in this too), wtf have you sacrificed? Odd thing is I still enjoyed the game, but yes you can literally feel every moment SBI/ESG/DEI bullshit infected it.
From what I can gather as managed to speak some of the employers of remedy entertainment and they said they were forced honestly I don't blame them they're trying their very best to sell their game but still
Not just the racist Sweet Baby inserts
The character is weak she a cop can do any cop things
Just post crap on a board boring
So that part is realistic, have you seen real female cops? lol.
Alan Wake 2 bombed.
13 years for this. What waste.
13 years? I remember seeing a few weeks after it came out that it had yet to sell a million copies? This had to lose a fortune.
Those individuals exploit good people and empathy to manipulate, that said it was really early in development and regardless of woke manipulators it's not so strange to have even major changes later on
Let's start making it about the people that yield.
Alan wake 2 was an insult to the first masterpiece and turned it into a woke musical piece of garbage. It was so crap. Hardly surprising it has sweet babies racist stamp on it.
Itleast the remastered version is perfect ❤❤❤
The writing and acting in Alan Wake 2 is miles ahead Alan Wake 1.
how much does sweet baby inc. costs? i mean, maybe they could've use that money to give us a Mexican spanish dub version, si it can reach WAY MORE people to play it in half of the american continent, i mean, the first Alan Wake did have a Latam spanish version. i find it sad and ironic how they put their "inclusive" priorities LOL
Still love Alan Wake 2 for what it is. I’m glad it finally came out and it was my game of the year for 2023.
That said, the DEI and ESG influence was noticeable but luckily seemed to be mostly not as bad as other examples.
Once Saga had her racist rant near the end of the game, race being something that is never once verbally even brought up in the entire rest of the game, it was clear that there was an agenda at play though.
Just glad that it’s not as bad as it could have been.
There's a BLACK effing woman taking a spot from a male lead character, taking all the arguably best parts of the game, who has a racist rant. Doesn't matters if it's just once. The only way it could be worse and she could be even less likeable is if she was also gay.
max payne remake will be black
😂😂😂😂 I love Sam but he'll no
Control was a fantastic game, and remedy is probably working on the sequel. Let's hope they don't have sweet garbage inc on it.
Just wait til the Max Payne 1 & 2 remakes. Yall better buy the originals now because once that comes out they will deslist the originals
Don't give money to such devs, wtf? They clearly compromised their vision by artificially forcing wokes agendas. F them.