I feel like what some husbands or men in relationships with solid women by their side don't understand is, that, that attention that they end up getting years into their marriage, from other women, is a direct result OF the love, energy, foundation they have built WITH the wife/woman who they've been investing in who has also been investing in them. so when young women find a married man, or man in a solid relationship attractive and that man thinks it's all HIM, it is not. and I hope more men understand this. men glow up too when they have a good woman in their life.
@@JustBree716 Hello there, I was but unfortunately my now ex-husband left me & our 4yr old daughter.. of course I would never allow his actions to deter any future endeavors.. we live & learn 🙂
I realllly appreciate Codie’s interviewing style. She digs, she’s looking for vulnerability and openness. We need to normalize these situations because, this kind of love along with the separations, arguments and differences are so common. I like how she normalized it, didn’t judge it, and then processed what they are doing to get through it. I loved it!
I appreciate Charles keeping it real regarding seeing other women, him growing in him self and trying to negotiate those feelings. Most men would not be this vulnerable and the fact they went to counseling. Kudos to him and his wife.
Finally a sensible comment that doesn't pander to her. Should he have lied and kept his feelings to himself? Should the man always suppress his emotions all because of how the woman would feel? To me that isn't real love nor intimacy. No one regarded the fact that she was being mean to him caused him to look at other women and no one ask her why was she being that way to him but we always pander to the woman. Men feelings are just as valid as ours...
He is being transparent and it's physically unsettling for her. I don't think he was whole before they became one. This is a prime example of why being single and discovering yourself and bring honest with yourself is so necessary.
Blair and Spencer ... this marriage just seems so calm and communicative. He seems like a healer .. kid gloves kind of guy. This marriage is such goals❤
I love how Charles & Shireen talk to each other not at or about each other even in the midst of others people- you can tell they talk naturally & truly communicate easily.
I respect Charles and what he’s saying ! Very transparent! Instead of him lying that she is the only woman he finds attractive but actually has a conversation with his wife and a counselor and can say you know this is what is happening and I don’t want to even go down that road !!! That is verrrryyyyy commendable! Hard work but commendable that he even could identify that he’s slipping and tries to catch him not in secrecy but openly to his wife . Dope ! Grown !
There’s nothing respectable about that.. when someone shows that they don’t care about hurting your feelings that’s all the red flag you need wether it’s a potential partner or friend
Right. I grew up within those areas and seen many men succumb to the environment of those areas. I'm glad to see he made it out and is happily married.
He’s super honest but definitely concerning, the pandemic put so much pressure on marriage the routine was just intense. My marriage and all of my friends were tested 😩
I'm glad you said that because i picked that up too. And I don't think she should necessarily be okay with hearing it. If she doesn't want to hear it then i think he shouldn't bring it up, and keep it as a conversation with his male friends.
@@tashe21 yessss, my marriage, too! And truth be told, still being tested. I'm just trying to understand what God is trying to show me so I can "get it" and not have to deal with this again
"why are you being mean when I can just go over there". If she was actually mean, he wouldn't feel comfortable making such a statement. Sir, we are human beings. We are not perfect. I apologize for speaking in a way that wounded you. However, running off to someone else because they will indulge your fantasies is not the sign of a competent leader. You will spend the rest of your life running because no one will hold their breath forever. Please feel free to 'go over there' if being with me no longer suits you. I appreciate your transparency, and in light of said transparency, please understand that you are not the only person with somewhere to go.
Should he have lied and kept his feelings to himself? Should the man always suppress his emotions all because of how the woman would feel? To me that isn't real love nor intimacy. No one regarded the fact that she was being mean to him and ask her why was she being that way to him but we always pander to the woman. Men feelings are just as valid as ours...
@@tenaybates8141 Threatening to cheat on your SO does not qualify as expressing feelings. My response included an apology for use of wounding words. But even if she used hurtful words, his choice of the nuclear option falls beyond the expression of feelings. It is a method of control -- do it my way or I will find someone else. Sorry but there's no excuse for that.
he's def very jovial and seems like the life of the party which i imagine is great for his work. it doesn't necessarily mean that he can't also be self-aware, accountable, considerate and whatever else is involved in maturity but i can def see how, from the outside, it could read that way.
It’s nice to see men who are open to therapy. Especially if it’ll help the marriage to become stronger, and help both people to grow so that they’ll be better for each other. I wholeheartedly believe in therapy!
I’m sorry, I cringed when Charles starts talking mostly because I felt how uncomfortable his wife felt during that moment. Ahhh I don’t know. I appreciate his bluntness and honesty, but if this was my husband I don’t think I could trust him.
The beauty about marriage is it’s different for everyone. IMO, in order to be someone’s best friend you have to be able to talk about everything, even the cringe moments. Trust is built and disappointments come when you have a false sense of self and high expectations of others.
Brilliant exchange of real and ideal! Relationships take work. ...take away: Acknowledge what attracts you to one another and let each individual's light reflect through your lives together! Know that a map is not a journey! It's linear. Love is optimal. No limits. Create new dimensions and create reasons that will always align with your love and lives together!💖
I think it's really weird. Why are some men doing this? It makes her sound like he's talking to his male friends. She's not, she's his wife. Sounds immature to me😕
Should he have lied and kept his feelings to himself? Should the man always suppress his emotions all because of how the woman would feel? To me that isn't real love nor intimacy. No one regarded the fact that she was being mean to him and ask her why was she being that way to him but we always pander to the woman. Men feelings are just as valid as ours...
@@tenaybates8141 No, he should not have disclosed that on tv without preparing his wife that he was going to mention it. It's obvious she was uncomfortable during his 5 minute rant about his cheating temptations.
@Nom Nom beautifully put! I just didn’t understand certain points he was trying to make and it seemed like he was bringing things up that didn’t line up with the topic of conversation.
Exactly Mom Nom... Immaturity, you Never want to add to your partners dialogue that cheating is in your thoughts. You take it to God and ask him to heal you from those thoughts, not plant seeds in my head concerning your thoughts of possible betrayal....
Short story it was like I don’t want to cheat but woman looking good and now I’m got it going on they checking for me I don’t understand that she looked uncomfortable when she took a sip of that wine but I would love to share my story with my husband we are not famous but it’s something ppl would love and can learn from 50 he’s 45 I had 4 children we add one together plus his son before me damn I went left on the lol
I have reservations about Charles. Like when he mentioned how he liked the attention women were giving him, and how he spoke about FOREVER like he would cheat or leave. 🤔😳 I am not sure about that BL❤. But, the other couple they appears sincere, and genuinely will do all that they needs to do to keep their marriage together. BL❤
I appreciate his honesty & def needs to be talked about. If you can’t talk to your spouse/best friend, who else can you be that honest with. I definitely hope they continue counseling & therapy & committed to their vows & their marriage
He honestly seems like someone who had to fight for attention as a kid. Or maybe he grew up in a family of loud people where you had to be louder than the next person in order to be heard. Blessings to her because his personality is way too much for me.
Charles is a reformed fboy going through the 12 step and seems prone to fall of the wagon. He doesn't seem like a man who has grown enough at all and she seems to balanced and grown. You can thumb me down .. but she could have done better. I dont buy his energy..
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So should he have lied? You're a human, who doesn't like attention? You would be quite different to say that you don't all because it's not coming from your significant other.
This episode was pure GOLD woweeee! You explored real wins, real growth and real issues so seamlessly! Sooo looking forward to this season, love me some black love coupled with black understanding 👏🏽👏🏽
This was a great episode 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽, my husband and I are starting therapy soon and I’m nervous and excited to see how this journal will improve our communication and help us get out of our own way. It’s inspiring to see other black couples exploring therapy. I wish everyone the best of luck and may Hod continue bless your union
How did u get your husband to go to counseling? I'm assuming he is a black man and it's like pulling TEETH to get a black man to get help or at the very least, just talk to someone and LISTEN
@Brangee Ellis We Went To Counsel Before Marriage , During And Then We Was In A Dry Spot Taking Eachother For Granted And We Had To Go As Individual And It Worked Out I Went To Hawaii To Do A Job It Was A 2 Year Assignment And He Came Over 8 Months In And That Was The BEST We Are 12 Years Apart In Age We Been Together 28 Years 💜💜💜🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Charles is confusing success with hotness. He's a chunky, basic guy with a beard but growing success will take that 5 to a 7, meanwhile he thinks he's a 9. Ego is real.
Charles such bubbly take charge vivacious personality 💕hopefully the therapy cements them. They are a lovely couple. He giving off bored once committed replacement storylines.
I luv the question she ask and the what if’s. Black Love ❤️ this show is so appreciated, I was married to my Best Friend for 16 years. I missed the friendship most of all like she said, and he BROKE our bond. And now I’m open to Love 💕 once again, even marriage Thank You for this AMAZING SHOW and the different couples from different backgrounds.
it's not that Charless has a big personality, I think he's just extra in a counterproductive way...he comes off overbearing and being overbearing usually is accompanied with narcissism & carelessness....I hope not but, I tend to think his maturity level (growth journey) and his ability to resolve relationship problems (caused by him especially) is, has and perhaps will continue to hurt her and undermine the relationship...again, I hope not and I sincerely hope that the marriage counselor imparts some serious wisdom for both... best of luck ...peaCe
Charles!! 😳🤚🏽There you are saying you don’t want to hurt your wife and you completely disrespected your wife in your explanation!! Sometimes you don’t mention every detail, but you speak in generalities in public! Please apologize to your beautiful wife! She was so clearly caught off guard, embarrassed, and probably very hurt.😔
Why must we always pander the woman? Why can't we just accept truth? It's not about comfortability, it's about truth! It's not meant to be swallowed like water.
🚨 I hope Charles has a reviews this taping 🎥 being 33 and married 💍 does not excuse having a wondering 👁👁 I am glad they are in therapy. But self control is 🔑 if he continues to allow other women to boost his “EGO” he will lose his Queen 👑 FOREVER. The pain in her eyes 👁👁 said it all. I’m glad Spencer acknowledged that he forgot to acknowledge his Queen 👑 during the premiere of All American 🇺🇸 accountability and communication is 🔑 . I’m glad both couples are seeking therapy. ESP. the second couple seeking therapy together and separately. Self Evolution is needed and Evolving together forces you to grow for the better. I hope each couple understands I’m not judging because marriage is hard just observing as an outsider.
Love them all. It's so true your partner knows you so well that you know when they are not telling the whole truth or being guarded with you. I tell my wife all the time, I know you, so let me give you a moment to be vulnerable with me to tell your truth without regard for possibly hurting my feelings 💕 If you don't know your love language, do the test.
Somethings are better left unsaid! I don’t like Charles! He’s never had anything or any attention! And it’s going to be the end of them! He’s not really sure about forever. He loves the attention from other women and she should have kinda seen that when she met him and became “friends” while with another women!
I feel like Charles and Shireen should've remained as platonic friends. It's as if Shireen is not physically attracted to him. I wish all the couples the best! 💗
Wow. He really hurt his wife. I hope he watched this back and took in her reaction. I also think the other husband is a little more into his wife than she is. Which is not a bad thing just a slight observation.
3 mins into this video and there is already "after-the-third-drink energy and emotions going on in the conversations" - this is a GOOD table talk and video!!! Ohhhhhhhh! Ooouuh. I love it. The contrast between interviewer's tone and guest excitement is perfect. I like how he said, I realized that I'm going through some changes to which I have to reconcile my marriage and family. That was really cool to hear that revelation explained.
Romcoms 😂 lol! I agree with you, we’ve been conditioned to think that this is how it works, but the couples prove that lasting love does not have to include a spark moment
I love you guys...this season was one of the best ones for me...well these couples. I am a fan of the Spencer TV show so it is cute to know that he ended up with the sister because I thought I saw chemistry/spark on the show. lol But I was thinking it was just me...lol
I'm curious as to how Charles ended that previous relationship.... his wife should take note... just a matter of time before he cheats ... the writing is on the wall... why did he even bother getting married???
Some people are delusional the man you dating then wants to get back with her ex girl that comes around and you allow him to then come back to you when his through his his ex- are you Cray cray, say bye and move on don't be waiting for this BOY!!! and then worst off MARRY HIM ...WOOOOOW!!!
Charles and Shirren, 4 years in and needing therapy already??? Glad to hear they’re doing it, but wow! I hope and pray it will help. Sounds like Charles may be letting attention from women and material things turn his attention from his wife. DONT DO IT!!! You’ll regret it. You’ve glowed up because you have a phenomenal woman at your side.
What these commentators fail to realize is that Blair & Spencer has just as much problems as Charles and Shiren. Sometimes we have to pay attention to what ppl are not saying. If you noticed their scenarios were pretty much vague. And yes Charles is honest and the truth is if I must say he should not feed that Ego monster. he should find more security within himself. Only God can help with that. But yeah Spencer and Blair gave us professional answers 😆. Final thoughts I can't really give much feed back on Spence and Blair for obvious reasons. But women like Shiren underestimate their worth, she's more then just beautiful she's a kind soul (rare) that can see kindness in others. That kind of gift deserve way more then what Charles have to offer. Now thats the truth Charles probably knows but won't admit. This might be an unpopular opinion but certains things you dont need to share with your wife, but rather another man prefereably a God fearing man and or your male counselor. A wife is not going to have all the answers or understanding as a man would. SHE CAN'T BE EVERYONE FOR A FOR HER HUSBAND. But anywho, Shirens probably knows it too but probably doesn't understand her full value. Codie did and Excellent job with regulating the integrity of both parties pure talent. It is nice to see this kind of representation, it matters! #blacklovesmatters
Pre-COVID he went to the movies a few times a week and she hung out with her friends. During COVID, it was a way to get out of the house since he couldn’t go to the movies.
I don't get why folks are mad at Charles. He is being honest. The truth can be bitter. He owned that his approach isn't best. They both admitted to having reviewing some things and re-center.
I think people are confusing Charles large personality and dramatic expressions for immaturity. His demeanor is large, but behind the scenes he may be more mature than whats expected. Whose to say that God didn't join them together for him to pull from his wife and she will be his helper to get to the level of where God is calling him to be. Just saying
Hello! Really enjoy Black Love! Question, do y’all play games or do practice questions before filming to loosen the guest up? It felt tense and really repetitive. ... just a honest question. No shade here.
The "energy" is different, Codie usually has more energy, I think there may be some social media influencers or people trying to up their profile, just sayin, but this still one of my favs
@@debradennis3379 none of them are social media influencers - Shireen & Charles work high profile corporate jobs &!the other couple wrote All American by show.
Jade Gossip His ego for sure. Nice guy but his ego is a problem. During the episode he made her show the ring he brought her. He seems a bit immature and insecure for her. He’s overcompensating by his nervous chatter and hyper behavior.
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I feel like what some husbands or men in relationships with solid women by their side don't understand is, that, that attention that they end up getting years into their marriage, from other women, is a direct result OF the love, energy, foundation they have built WITH the wife/woman who they've been investing in who has also been investing in them. so when young women find a married man, or man in a solid relationship attractive and that man thinks it's all HIM, it is not. and I hope more men understand this. men glow up too when they have a good woman in their life.
This!!
Preach!!!
That’s a GREAT point Nikki!
@@femmefatale71 That part!! Yes!
@@itscarlamcd3122 Thank you! just my experience and observations so far :)
How wonderful it is even being a single parent and witnessing such healthy marriages. Can't help but to be happy, smiling seeing their story.
Do u want to be married?
@@JustBree716 Hello there, I was but unfortunately my now ex-husband left me & our 4yr old daughter.. of course I would never allow his actions to deter any future endeavors.. we live & learn 🙂
I realllly appreciate Codie’s interviewing style. She digs, she’s looking for vulnerability and openness. We need to normalize these situations because, this kind of love along with the separations, arguments and differences are so common. I like how she normalized it, didn’t judge it, and then processed what they are doing to get through it. I loved it!
I appreciate Charles keeping it real regarding seeing other women, him growing in him self and trying to negotiate those feelings. Most men would not be this vulnerable and the fact they went to counseling. Kudos to him and his wife.
The wife was not ready to share this side of him with the world. She looked embarrassed.
Cringyyyy
Finally a sensible comment that doesn't pander to her. Should he have lied and kept his feelings to himself? Should the man always suppress his emotions all because of how the woman would feel? To me that isn't real love nor intimacy. No one regarded the fact that she was being mean to him caused him to look at other women and no one ask her why was she being that way to him but we always pander to the woman. Men feelings are just as valid as ours...
He is being transparent and it's physically unsettling for her. I don't think he was whole before they became one. This is a prime example of why being single and discovering yourself and bring honest with yourself is so necessary.
@@tenaybates8141 Thank you.
Blair and Spencer ... this marriage just seems so calm and communicative. He seems like a healer .. kid gloves kind of guy. This marriage is such goals❤
i swear
Yes! I was watching like “how sweet he seems”, definitely a thinking/feeling type of man.
Honestly! Calm and Communicative is just the right description. 💛💛💛
@@jamelia560 I am rooting for them really. This is beautiful. They both vulnerable. It's rare.
@@lco09 ❤❤❤❤❤🤗 mmmm indeed babe.
I love how Charles & Shireen talk to each other not at or about each other even in the midst of others people- you can tell they talk naturally & truly communicate easily.
Separate AND joint therapy is so important
I respect Charles and what he’s saying ! Very transparent! Instead of him lying that she is the only woman he finds attractive but actually has a conversation with his wife and a counselor and can say you know this is what is happening and I don’t want to even go down that road !!! That is verrrryyyyy commendable! Hard work but commendable that he even could identify that he’s slipping and tries to catch him not in secrecy but openly to his wife . Dope ! Grown !
There’s nothing respectable about that.. when someone shows that they don’t care about hurting your feelings that’s all the red flag you need wether it’s a potential partner or friend
He should have never chosen monogamy at all
Words matter. We and Us is important. Kindly reminders. We love to hear compliments as well with actions.
Damn that is my guy that's All American is written about. That's my show!
Right!!
Right. I grew up within those areas and seen many men succumb to the environment of those areas. I'm glad to see he made it out and is happily married.
Charles and Shireen are hilarious! And Shireen has a standout personality, definitely good vibes.
Looooove Black Love. Charles & Shireen are so entertaining.
Thank you for this series. My date life has been discouraging but watching this helps me keep believing in love.
'Shireen's face changed when he talked about looking at other women. He needed to stop talking because she looks hurt.
Yeah, he def has diarrhea of the mouth
He’s super honest but definitely concerning, the pandemic put so much pressure on marriage the routine was just intense. My marriage and all of my friends were tested 😩
That’s honest & vulnerable... I pray their love prevails above all temptations & roadblocks
I'm glad you said that because i picked that up too. And I don't think she should necessarily be okay with hearing it. If she doesn't want to hear it then i think he shouldn't bring it up, and keep it as a conversation with his male friends.
@@tashe21 yessss, my marriage, too! And truth be told, still being tested. I'm just trying to understand what God is trying to show me so I can "get it" and not have to deal with this again
"why are you being mean when I can just go over there". If she was actually mean, he wouldn't feel comfortable making such a statement. Sir, we are human beings. We are not perfect. I apologize for speaking in a way that wounded you. However, running off to someone else because they will indulge your fantasies is not the sign of a competent leader. You will spend the rest of your life running because no one will hold their breath forever. Please feel free to 'go over there' if being with me no longer suits you. I appreciate your transparency, and in light of said transparency, please understand that you are not the only person with somewhere to go.
Should he have lied and kept his feelings to himself? Should the man always suppress his emotions all because of how the woman would feel? To me that isn't real love nor intimacy. No one regarded the fact that she was being mean to him and ask her why was she being that way to him but we always pander to the woman. Men feelings are just as valid as ours...
@@tenaybates8141 Threatening to cheat on your SO does not qualify as expressing feelings. My response included an apology for use of wounding words. But even if she used hurtful words, his choice of the nuclear option falls beyond the expression of feelings. It is a method of control -- do it my way or I will find someone else. Sorry but there's no excuse for that.
@@joyejohnsonauthor I totally agree. If she spoke to him that way, it would be a big deal. As if shes not a beautiful woman who can get another man.
Blair absolutely took me out. Staring into the camera like the office. She said aww look at us😍😍
I don’t know why but Charles does come across as immature compared to his wife.
But all the best to them!
Very much so! Seemingly, he requires a lot of affirmation!
he's def very jovial and seems like the life of the party which i imagine is great for his work. it doesn't necessarily mean that he can't also be self-aware, accountable, considerate and whatever else is involved in maturity but i can def see how, from the outside, it could read that way.
Yes! It is stressing me out! LOL But I guess she has the perfect personality to work with him.
Haha 😄. I think it's just his personality that brings out that vibe 🤣 😂 😅
This conversation was EVERYTHING I didn’t know I needed. 🥰❤️
It’s nice to see men who are open to therapy. Especially if it’ll help the marriage to become stronger, and help both people to grow so that they’ll be better for each other. I wholeheartedly believe in therapy!
#BlackLove this is what we love to see, we NEED to see it ❤️❤️❤️
I absolutely love Charles and Shireen!! Love their energy, love their ways of communication, love their love! Can’t wait to see more of them 💛
Charles reminds me of LaShawn Daniels (rip).
Yep.
The first thing I thought immediately
Yes!! His personality is all LaShawn.
Yes he does!! His laughing and joking is infectious!! Rip Lashawn
He definitely does!
I like Spencer and Blair (I hope I spelled their names correctly). U can tell that they have dealt (or still dealing) with some deep rooted issues...
I’m sorry, I cringed when Charles starts talking mostly because I felt how uncomfortable his wife felt during that moment. Ahhh I don’t know. I appreciate his bluntness and honesty, but if this was my husband I don’t think I could trust him.
Yes, he made me feel very uncomfortable.
The point of the show is the “cringe” and how you navigate through the issues that evolve as you grow through life together.
Charles is very draining
The beauty about marriage is it’s different for everyone. IMO, in order to be someone’s best friend you have to be able to talk about everything, even the cringe moments. Trust is built and disappointments come when you have a false sense of self and high expectations of others.
Makes me wonder how many actually feel this, but won't say it.
Brilliant exchange of real and ideal! Relationships take work. ...take away: Acknowledge what attracts you to one another and let each individual's light reflect through your lives together! Know that a map is not a journey! It's linear. Love is optimal. No limits. Create new dimensions and create reasons that will always align with your love and lives together!💖
My ex husband never called me “homie”, and my future hubby better not either🤨
I think it's really weird. Why are some men doing this? It makes her sound like he's talking to his male friends. She's not, she's his wife.
Sounds immature to me😕
Ain’t it good to be friends first then relationship 2nd.
That's how it is when you're friends first with someone though, I catch my self calling my hubby "bro" all the time 😂
This guy Charles has clearly hurt and embarrassed his wife.... "Why you being mean, I can be talking to this girl right here." That wasn't cool.
Should he have lied and kept his feelings to himself? Should the man always suppress his emotions all because of how the woman would feel? To me that isn't real love nor intimacy. No one regarded the fact that she was being mean to him and ask her why was she being that way to him but we always pander to the woman. Men feelings are just as valid as ours...
@@tenaybates8141 No, he should not have disclosed that on tv without preparing his wife that he was going to mention it. It's obvious she was uncomfortable during his 5 minute rant about his cheating temptations.
@@tenaybates8141 Thank you for this, Tenay....
Real love isn't always comfortable.
Awesome interview, Codie is a master...the two couples ... I pray forever love!
Something about Charles doesn’t sit right with me... but I love them as a couple and I love this show so much!
@Nom Nom beautifully put! I just didn’t understand certain points he was trying to make and it seemed like he was bringing things up that didn’t line up with the topic of conversation.
Exactly Mom Nom... Immaturity, you Never want to add to your partners dialogue that cheating is in your thoughts. You take it to God and ask him to heal you from those thoughts, not plant seeds in my head concerning your thoughts of possible betrayal....
@Nom Nom picked up on this too. you said this so well.
@Nom Nom very well said !
Short story it was like I don’t want to cheat but woman looking good and now I’m got it going on they checking for me I don’t understand that she looked uncomfortable when she took a sip of that wine but I would love to share my story with my husband we are not famous but it’s something ppl would love and can learn from 50 he’s 45 I had 4 children we add one together plus his son before me damn I went left on the lol
I have reservations about Charles. Like when he mentioned how he liked the attention women were giving him, and how he spoke about FOREVER like he would cheat or leave. 🤔😳 I am not sure about that BL❤. But, the other couple they appears sincere, and genuinely will do all that they needs to do to keep their marriage together. BL❤
I appreciate his honesty & def needs to be talked about. If you can’t talk to your spouse/best friend, who else can you be that honest with. I definitely hope they continue counseling & therapy & committed to their vows & their marriage
He reminds me of my friend's ex husband. He likes attention a lot. It can be taxing
@@bcuz30 Even a few minutes in, I find his energy draining.
That Charles man is yelling.Why??
I don't think he's yelling I think he's just has a big, expressive, animated personality. I love his energy.
He honestly seems like someone who had to fight for attention as a kid. Or maybe he grew up in a family of loud people where you had to be louder than the next person in order to be heard. Blessings to her because his personality is way too much for me.
@@KekeIdoLoveMe IKR? Like i can hear you without all the loudness and yelling.
@@shyrokiki7441 That part. I mean, I get it that he has a big personality. It’s just way too over the top for me.
I need you to calm down, Sir. 😂
*Charles fanboying out when he realized this was THE Spencer from All American is EVERYTHING!!*
I'm glad that Charles was stating his truth but I wish he wouldn't have said it in the way he said it. He should have been silent.
Charles is a reformed fboy going through the 12 step and seems prone to fall of the wagon. He doesn't seem like a man who has grown enough at all and she seems to balanced and grown. You can thumb me down .. but she could have done better. I dont buy his energy..
Thumbs up!! I feel ya 😂
He has me until he said now women are starting to give him attention he never thought he’d get and he doesn’t want to hurt her feelings 😬😐🤔
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So should he have lied? You're a human, who doesn't like attention? You would be quite different to say that you don't all because it's not coming from your significant other.
And how do you know he was a Fboy? Unless you know him personally, let's not name call.
This episode was pure GOLD woweeee! You explored real wins, real growth and real issues so seamlessly! Sooo looking forward to this season, love me some black love coupled with black understanding 👏🏽👏🏽
This was a great episode 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽, my husband and I are starting therapy soon and I’m nervous and excited to see how this journal will improve our communication and help us get out of our own way. It’s inspiring to see other black couples exploring therapy. I wish everyone the best of luck and may Hod continue bless your union
How did u get your husband to go to counseling? I'm assuming he is a black man and it's like pulling TEETH to get a black man to get help or at the very least, just talk to someone and LISTEN
@Brangee Ellis We Went To Counsel Before Marriage , During And Then We Was In A Dry Spot Taking Eachother For Granted And We Had To Go As Individual And It Worked Out I Went To Hawaii To Do A Job It Was A 2 Year Assignment And He Came Over 8 Months In And That Was The BEST We Are 12 Years Apart In Age We Been Together 28 Years 💜💜💜🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Black Love & I Have It Over 35 Year's Here In Oakland.Ca 💯😀❤
Shireen was preaching and I loved it!!!!
Thank you for Black Love. I’m taking notes 📝
Charles is confusing success with hotness. He's a chunky, basic guy with a beard but growing success will take that 5 to a 7, meanwhile he thinks he's a 9. Ego is real.
Charles puts me off a little bit
A LOTTA bit.
Charles such bubbly take charge vivacious personality 💕hopefully the therapy cements them. They are a lovely couple. He giving off bored once committed replacement storylines.
Great Conversation 💕👏🏽
Definitely have to bring these couples back on, especially Charles & Shireen
red flag #1: Charles getting a lil TOO upset that his wife didn't remember meeting him the first time...
I luv the question she ask and the what if’s. Black Love ❤️ this show is so appreciated, I was married to my Best Friend for 16 years. I missed the friendship most of all like she said, and he BROKE our bond.
And now I’m open to Love 💕 once again, even marriage
Thank You for this AMAZING SHOW and the different couples from different backgrounds.
it's not that Charless has a big personality, I think he's just extra in a counterproductive way...he comes off overbearing and being overbearing usually is accompanied with narcissism & carelessness....I hope not but, I tend to think his maturity level (growth journey) and his ability to resolve relationship problems (caused by him especially) is, has and perhaps will continue to hurt her and undermine the relationship...again, I hope not and I sincerely hope that the marriage counselor imparts some serious wisdom for both... best of luck ...peaCe
Omgosh...Spencer reminds me of Davis from Queen Sugar.
I really appreciate this interview and the honesty and transparency of the couples and interviewer!
Charles!! 😳🤚🏽There you are saying you don’t want to hurt your wife and you completely disrespected your wife in your explanation!! Sometimes you don’t mention every detail, but you speak in generalities in public! Please apologize to your beautiful wife! She was so clearly caught off guard, embarrassed, and probably very hurt.😔
I didn’t get that but interesting view! He is loud tho!
I saw that 👀
Completely agree. She seemed to keep looking away, around and sipping her wine. It was painful to watch for her.
Why must we always pander the woman? Why can't we just accept truth? It's not about comfortability, it's about truth! It's not meant to be swallowed like water.
Exactly. It's not what he said but how he said it. She was clearly hurt by his choice of words(in my opinion and body language)...
🚨 I hope Charles has a reviews this taping 🎥 being 33 and married 💍 does not excuse having a wondering 👁👁 I am glad they are in therapy. But self control is 🔑 if he continues to allow other women to boost his “EGO” he will lose his Queen 👑 FOREVER. The pain in her eyes 👁👁 said it all. I’m glad Spencer acknowledged that he forgot to acknowledge his Queen 👑 during the premiere of All American 🇺🇸 accountability and communication is 🔑 . I’m glad both couples are seeking therapy. ESP. the second couple seeking therapy together and separately. Self Evolution is needed and Evolving together forces you to grow for the better. I hope each couple understands I’m not judging because marriage is hard just observing as an outsider.
Love them all. It's so true your partner knows you so well that you know when they are not telling the whole truth or being guarded with you. I tell my wife all the time, I know you, so let me give you a moment to be vulnerable with me to tell your truth without regard for possibly hurting my feelings 💕 If you don't know your love language, do the test.
Boy that man can talk.... 😅
Charles IS The Spark! ...& the whole Flame! 💯 #dopepersonality
I appreciate my therapist. This show was so real. Love it!!!
Somethings are better left unsaid! I don’t like Charles! He’s never had anything or any attention! And it’s going to be the end of them! He’s not really sure about forever. He loves the attention from other women and she should have kinda seen that when she met him and became “friends” while with another women!
I feel like Charles and Shireen should've remained as platonic friends. It's as if Shireen is not physically attracted to him.
I wish all the couples the best! 💗
Wish he would stop calling her bro
Marriage seem so hard n difficult but can be great shout out to those who are in it n hanging in there
Wow. He really hurt his wife. I hope he watched this back and took in her reaction. I also think the other husband is a little more into his wife than she is. Which is not a bad thing just a slight observation.
I agree.
Ok which is which? Who's more into their wife, than she is to him??🧐
Let me go back an see🤦🏾♀️
This is what happens when you decide to put your relationship on front street. Things like this are bound to happen.
The man SHOULD be more into his wife
I Love Charles honesty!
3 mins into this video and there is already "after-the-third-drink energy and emotions going on in the conversations" - this is a GOOD table talk and video!!! Ohhhhhhhh! Ooouuh. I love it. The contrast between interviewer's tone and guest excitement is perfect. I like how he said, I realized that I'm going through some changes to which I have to reconcile my marriage and family. That was really cool to hear that revelation explained.
Great segment Codie! You guys have made another season of great choices to give their insight for #Blacklove.
OMG! Love Love Love this episode. Keep them coming.
Please bring Devon Franklin & Meagan Good
Devon and Megan Good-Franklin were on Season 1/2. I believe.
@@sweetcase9630 we, or rather, I need them back on the show. You simply can't have enough of them, can you?
Denzel and his wife
WOW those couple are soooooo beautiful and I love the conversation we as black people we need more of that talk well done on the conversation
Who says the spark has to be mutual and simultaneous? 🤷🏾♂️😂
Romcoms 😂 lol! I agree with you, we’ve been conditioned to think that this is how it works, but the couples prove that lasting love does not have to include a spark moment
Resisting temptation seems like a full time job for some right now... 🙏🏽 Hope the resistance is FOREVER x
YO! 2020 was wild for ALL marriages!!!! Keep pushing!!! Black love matters!!!
I love you guys...this season was one of the best ones for me...well these couples. I am a fan of the Spencer TV show so it is cute to know that he ended up with the sister because I thought I saw chemistry/spark on the show. lol But I was thinking it was just me...lol
I'm curious as to how Charles ended that previous relationship.... his wife should take note... just a matter of time before he cheats ... the writing is on the wall... why did he even bother getting married???
Omg Charles is too much. I would be so embarrassed if I were his wife. Smh
"She do look like a joint right now"😂😂😂
“Take me now… where’s Coop!” 😂😂
Some people are delusional the man you dating then wants to get back with her ex girl that comes around and you allow him to then come back to you when his through his his ex- are you Cray cray, say bye and move on don't be waiting for this BOY!!! and then worst off MARRY HIM ...WOOOOOW!!!
Food for my soul, thank you, I really enjoy the content ! P.s. @Black love please create a boxset or something of that nature
Same Blair me and my husband don’t argue so it’s hard when we do
I personally don't trust Charles(tho I don't personally know him.) I just keep remembering how he started trying to get with his now wife.
Charles is giving me Will Smith vibes.... Cool couples. I watched All American in 2 weeks on Netflix. It was well done👌
Definitely he has his body language
Good information on Black 💘 Thank You !
Charles and Shirren, 4 years in and needing therapy already??? Glad to hear they’re doing it, but wow! I hope and pray it will help. Sounds like Charles may be letting attention from women and material things turn his attention from his wife. DONT DO IT!!! You’ll regret it. You’ve glowed up because you have a phenomenal woman at your side.
Therapy is a tool. Why not use it? It probably wouldn’t hurt to continue on from pre-marital counseling.
Preventative maintenance! I’m all for it.
Never too early for therapy
I disagree. Therapy can be used as early as dating to help people communicate effectively and acknowledge hiccups and hangups. I'm all for it.
Never too early for a therapy..
Charles was too extra I'm sorry ugh
What these commentators fail to realize is that Blair & Spencer has just as much problems as Charles and Shiren. Sometimes we have to pay attention to what ppl are not saying. If you noticed their scenarios were pretty much vague. And yes Charles is honest and the truth is if I must say he should not feed that Ego monster. he should find more security within himself. Only God can help with that. But yeah Spencer and Blair gave us professional answers 😆. Final thoughts I can't really give much feed back on Spence and Blair for obvious reasons. But women like Shiren underestimate their worth, she's more then just beautiful she's a kind soul (rare) that can see kindness in others. That kind of gift deserve way more then what Charles have to offer. Now thats the truth Charles probably knows but won't admit. This might be an unpopular opinion but certains things you dont need to share with your wife, but rather another man prefereably a God fearing man and or your male counselor. A wife is not going to have all the answers or understanding as a man would. SHE CAN'T BE EVERYONE FOR A FOR HER HUSBAND. But anywho, Shirens probably knows it too but probably doesn't understand her full value. Codie did and Excellent job with regulating the integrity of both parties pure talent. It is nice to see this kind of representation, it matters! #blacklovesmatters
I totally agree. Blair & Spencer may be more reserved, but Blair's demeanor and facial expressions speak volumes to me.
❤️❤️❤️💕💕 This was a great After Love session
Something about Shirleen reminds me of the Simmons sisters in particular the oldest sister.
This was so good 💯
Charles gives me 'Will Smith' energy...X1000
I said the same thing.
This was beautiful!
I so love this show.
This was great! But did Spencer say he needed to get an Airbnb for two days? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 I paused. But hey that's their business 😂😂😂
Pre-COVID he went to the movies a few times a week and she hung out with her friends. During COVID, it was a way to get out of the house since he couldn’t go to the movies.
I don't get why folks are mad at Charles. He is being honest. The truth can be bitter. He owned that his approach isn't best. They both admitted to having reviewing some things and re-center.
Blessings to the couples ... Awesome and Transparent...
Love love love love this!!!! Beautiful couples 🥰🙏🏽 so inspirational
This Charles dude is a bit much, can’t handle men that talk as much as women…
They make me miss Big Shiz and April.....I know April still is mourning her husband's death. I hope her and the boys are ok💙
Always need this in my life, thank you
I think people are confusing Charles large personality and dramatic expressions for immaturity. His demeanor is large, but behind the scenes he may be more mature than whats expected. Whose to say that God didn't join them together for him to pull from his wife and she will be his helper to get to the level of where God is calling him to be. Just saying
Hello! Really enjoy Black Love!
Question, do y’all play games or do practice questions before filming to loosen the guest up?
It felt tense and really repetitive. ... just a honest question. No shade here.
The "energy" is different, Codie usually has more energy, I think there may be some social media influencers or people trying to up their profile, just sayin, but this still one of my favs
@@debradennis3379 none of them are social media influencers - Shireen & Charles work high profile corporate jobs &!the other couple wrote All American by show.
Charles is a bit of a red flag🙈🙈🙈🙈but may God bless them 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Why is he so pressed about the "spark"?
Jade Gossip His ego for sure. Nice guy but his ego is a problem. During the episode he made her show the ring he brought her. He seems a bit immature and insecure for her. He’s overcompensating by his nervous chatter and hyper behavior.
@@kimjones3262 or.... he's nervous? Lol
I think he felt a bit rejected.
Especially since he met his gf while he was dating someone else. Like did he have a spark for her?
Wife*
God I LUV ALL OF THIS BLACK LOVE 💕🖤💕🖤