Mick Brown to Don Dokken on Quitting the Band, "I can't do this anymore" + Lynch, Pilson, Interview
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- This excerpt was taken from a full in bloom interview with vocalist Don Dokken.
Don talks about Mick Brown leaving Dokken and says he and says he and George Lynch are "too old to argue."
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Outro taken from "The Parting" by FOOL OF FATE
#Dokken #DonDokken #GeorgeLynch #Jeff Pilson #MickBrown #TommyAldridge #Whitesnake
Tommy Aldridge is a Cyberdyne model 2515. Basically a third generation Terminator, but for the drums. Long after the sun burns out and the earth becomes a frozen rock, Aldridge will still be playing drums.
I love this comment. Hilarious. True story ! 💀🤘🤘🤘🍺🍺🍺
Mick went out graciously and gracefully. He never knew he couldn't play anymore and he retired knowing it was best for him and the band. I commend mick for retiring
I met Mick. Bought me a drink on HIS birthday. Extremely nice guy. Talked to him quite a while. I told his girlfriend I don't want to bother you guys on his birthday. She insisted me and buddy hang out, he loves talking to fans. We stayed a little while longer, got some awesome pics and wished him a happy birthday. Great guy
That's pretty damned cool!
Yes. I'm a drummer of 40 years and it takes it's toll on the drummer. The hardest job in the band. Love you mick and dokken. 80's rock forever...
During the pandemic(20-21) I decided to learn drum and I will agree. I’m a big Ramones fan and while their beats are simple they take some endurance - at least for a new drummer to maintain constant 8ths at those speeds.
Dokken one of the best 80’s melodic hard rock band!
Good for Mick. Great guy and a great drummer. Enjoy retirement. You deserve it.
Love you Don. Thanks for all the music over the years. You've been my favorite since 83. Much love to you.
Don was a different mindset kind of guy! Thanks
Mick is another solid drummer from that era….played for the song and the bonus was he could sing too which added to those dokken backround vocals
I've always enjoyed Mick's playing in Dokken & the Lynch Mob. Very solid, powerful drummer. Sorry to hear about Mick's health ailments. I hope he re-establishes contact w/Don and whoever else.
Mic is the most underrated drummer . One of the best ever.
I love Dokken but you have got to be joking
@@Good-Enuff-Garage I have seen a lot of drummers in my lifetime. I was even fortunate to see John Bonham live with Led Zeppelin. I've seen Neil Peart with Rush many times. I was at one of the very first Van Halen concert. All of them I still have to say my favorite drummer is wild Mick Brown. You need to know how to define a drummer to Understand what I'm talkin about. All the way back to when wild Mick played with Xciter and with the boyz he is always been considered an amazing drummer to me. A drummer is not about how good you can spin drumsticks or being able to play Upside Down. It's a temple you hold your bandmates to during live concert. And wild
Mic has that gift better than most. So yes I do believe he's one of the greatest drummers of all time......
@@davidharvey5065 well he has not shown those skills in Dokken and I love the band, but with them he is more along the lines of Phil Rudd and before you tell me what an amazing drummer Phil Rudd is, LOL he is very basic, good yes, great I don't think so, Danny Carey is great
@@Good-Enuff-Garage Who cares what you think? Your favorite band is the Captain and Tennille.
@@georgesawtooth they are called opinions and are shared in a civilized society
I remember Dokken opening for Twisted Sister in '85. My friend and I had seats where we could see backstage, and we saw Don and George get in a fight during Mick's drum solo.
I didnt listen to Dokken for Don, I was there for George Lynch and he was and still is a monster!
I met Mick and George on the first Lynch Mob tour. Me and a few friends were hanging out by the bus after the show when the backstage door flung open and some guy we didn't know just waved us in. The first person I ran into back there was Mick, and the first thing he said to me was: "beer?",and pushed one of the two beers he was holding into my hand.
Wild Mick enjoy your retirement you gave us plenty!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Don makes excellent points. Playing drums is like playing football it takes a toll on your body although it does keep you in shape. Disappointing that he no longer talks to Don or anyone
All eras come to an end. We're witnessing one now. The bands from the 70s and 80s will not be around much longer. Most of these guys are well into their 60s or 70s and it is time to call it a day (if not now, it certainly can't last too much longer). Within ten years -- and that's stretching it -- the musical landscape is going to look very different. I thank them for all the great music which I still listen to most every day. The only guy who can't retire is Ozzy, but that's because Sharon is behind him with a sharp stick.
My exact thought. Alot of these guys should have stopped a long time ago. Sadly I say that about Don Dokken. He has not been able to sing in a very long time. He has lung issues
It is sad for sure, but you have to look at it 2 ways they could do a piece meal band with 4 new members and 1 original member and keep on playing not something the fans really want to see. Or call it a day and hang it up. I see a lot of the great 70's bands still playing but with new members a lot of the time new singers and drummers the guitar players are pretty much the same if they haven't died. Ozzy I thought had Parkinson's and is no longer touring.
Mick's a hell of a singer too. Listen to Crazy Mary Goes Round on Dokken's album Erase the Slate released in 1999. He sings the song. Frickin' awesome 🤘😎🖤
Fact!!!
He sang 'tooth and nail' unplugged and it was good too.
Dokken mentions Aldridge, Black Oak and Woodstock but he's mistaken. He was probably thinking of the first California Jam in 1974.
Wild Mick Brown is in my opinion was the heartbeat of dokken Everytime I see a greatest drummers of all time I see Tommy Lee on there Mick could and still would beat circles out of Tommy and way better timing
What i like about don is how down to earth he seems . Why all the other members slag him off he always diplomatic and does not drag them under the bus like they do to him. i have heard and seen heaps of interviews with him and he is always the nice towards the others even when you know he is pissed at them
Tommy Aldridge is an alien, I'm pretty sure. From the same planet as Steven Tyler, Sammy Hagar and Alice Cooper where everyone performs and sounds just as good in their 70's as they did in their 20's. Tommy will still be busting out solos 30 minutes before his funeral.
Old age is a badass, too, though. And it doesn't treat everyone the same -- not everyone gets arthritis. Mick was a basher, though -- I'm not surprised his body gave out like that. Watch him in anything from the 80's and then skip ahead to the 90's -- he was already dialing it back by then.
Years ago, here in Vegas at the Sunset Casino they had a small venue and they were doing this rock all star gig for like 2 months and like twice a week famous players like Tommy Aldridge, Buck Dharma etc would play. The night I went Tommy was on drums and he was insane. The last half of his solo he plays with his hands,(no sticks) He signed and gave me and my cousin each a stick. It looked like a beaver had chewed on it. LOL Tommy plays just as intense today as he did back in the 80's. His stamina and playing is totally mindblowing.
Aww man, Wild was a great drummer, all those Dokken albums (except for Shadowlife) are great!!!
His work in Lynch Mob was stellar as well.
@@cjthrill Everyone in that band was awesome, you had George’s guitar chops and lyricism, Oni’s powerhouse vocal, Mick’s wild drumming and Tony’s bass licks, and Rob Mason wasn’t a bad choice as a replacement for Oni😏
@@dragonqueen6589 Everything was awesome except for the racist name "Lynch Mob" according to George LMAO
@@SKRooU2 Scary stuff, I know😉 only to George 3 decades to realize the racial implications of his band’s name.
@@dragonqueen6589 but there wasn't any implications no one accused George of being racist. He ditched the name because of his own feeble liberal stupidity. The name of the band was just a play on his last name. It had nothing to do with lynching blacks
I'm surprised he hasn't changed his last name to appease the liberal community
Many men don't age well, mick is 66 years old, he is not a young man, and as don says he played for 50 years at a hard pace. I understand that mick did the right thing to retire on time before sucks on a show. Don and Vince Neil should also consider doing the same THING.
The same thing happened to Neil Peart. He had physical ailments and decided to call it a career after the 2015 R40 tour while he could still play at a high level. Sad to see these great musicians we grew up listening to and seeing in concert retiring or are no longer with us.
I'm sorry to hear that MICK WAS AND IS A GREAT FUKIN DRUMMER LOVED DOKKEN HUGE FAN
Don tells some great stories and is pretty accurate most of the time. But Black Oak Arkansas didn’t play Woodstock and Tommy didn’t join them until 1972 or 1973. But hey, minor detail really when you think of the context he was talking about. He’s only a few years off and Tommy has been playing drums forever and is STILL crushing it.
Mick is an awesome drummer wish he would come back I really do
I still like the music of Dokken: Brown, Dokken, Lynch and Pilson. 👍🎵🎶🎤🎸
I have an old back injury. I can play drums about 30 minutes and I'm done with it. Mick always played hard too. Great pro.
I think Don was mistaken on the End Machine video. Mick didn't do the second End Machine record or videos, it was his brother Steve (who is an excellent drummer as well).
I lived in Manhattan beach from 2006 2012 had no clue Don lived there, small world.
I STARTED PLAYING DRUMS AT 7 YRS AND MY TWO ROCK INFLUENCES WERE TOMMY ALDRIDGE AND ALEX VANHALEN I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST HEARD PAT TRAVERS / BOOM BOOM OUT GO THE LIGHTS I WAS HOOKED ( TOMMY ALDIDGE ) I TOOK LESSONS FRON CARMINE APPICE WHEN I WAS AROUND 12 / 13 YRS AND HE GOT ME INTO DOUBLE KICKS SUPER COOL GUY !!!
Don is such a great talker ..
when you have to give it up because of injurys its not something he wants to do but he can't do it anymore. real shame cause I,m sure its a big mind fuck to him to have to come to terms with it . great drummer
This information was published first by George Lynch around 2 to 3 years ago after Mick Brown did not toured after the recording the first The End Machine. I hope Wild Mick Brown is rested and doing great. Thank you for the years of great music
Back in the later 80's I practiced in a band at a place with aother band. Fast forward a couple of years ago one of the guitarists from that other band is hanging with Mick and since were facebook friends I see what Mick is up to. Riding his harley, going to shows, partying, and playing drums here and there in an informal play for fun only kinda way. Mick did form his own band and a Juy Named Jef played guitar in it who was my former guitar player from the band I mention at top, Espionage.
Awesome ❤
Another great interview.
Drummers wear out.
Most that are still around have taken their skillset with patience and properly warming up. Aldridge probably is one of them.
Mick did more than an admirable job playing for Ted Nugent, enjoyed those Nugent shows with Mick.
So Dons alone again?
Could you please do a Wild Mick interview to see what he has been doing and tell us Dokken fans funny Stories that Wild Mick is Great for.
that's just it Don says it himself he's playing softer, no rock drummer needs to pound the drums hard, that's why they have mikes, play with a proper whipping motion and use efficiency of motion, there are plenty of jazz drummers that are 80 years old, Mick just had bad technique and did it to himself and don't get me started on drummers who wear gloves
Mick is one heck of a drummer but has vocals are what impressed me the most. Not that easy to hear pitch in the drum vortex. At least for me.
Mick rules💯
Somebody once told me "Old age Sucks". At this point in my life (pushing 65 yo), I can now truthfully say "I resemble that remark!". Rock on !
I saw them perform in Anchorage AK about 15 years ago...
LOVE U Don...... GOD BLESS U.....
Im 58. I play drums. Been a drummer since i was 13. I exercise 4 days a week and i love to walk. But even doing that? Physically it takes its toll. These past 5 years after every show im ice packing my knees and putting ben gay on the back and elbows. Its not like was when we were in our 20s. I totally get mick and his decision to retire. Don is almost 70 hes had major health problems and his voice is gone. Rock n roll is a young mans game.
Look how many 80's bands are pretty much the original band MINUS the original drummers.
Is Don implying he hasn’t spoken to Mick since he walked out with three shows to go because Mick shut down his social media? How did he communicate with Mick in the decades prior? Seems to pin it in Mick. Also says Mick doesn’t speak to anybody, yet Mick shot a video with Pilson and Lynch? It seems to me Don’s version of events are typically chalk full of holes and heavily redacted to suit his narrative. ie; the controversy regarding publishing and royalties. Always loose ends in his stories. I can’t say I trust his version of events much.
yea sounds like pieces re missing. Like the old saying there are 3 sides to every story, Yours, mine and the truth
So glad.
Hell George Lynch is a beast on the guitar and always was still F rocking.
Dons voice is fried
Don Dokken too should seriously think about retiring, Or at least closing a door with the past and starting a new musical career with the vocal range he has now. Hearing him sing the old stuff is a real toothache.
KNOW WHAT ? I FIGURED IT OUT ... ITS NOT JUST WHO IS THE FOCUS OF THE INTERVIEW ... A LOT OF WHATS COOL IS HOW WELL YOU GET ALONG WITH WHO YOURE TALKING TO ... ITS ESPECIALLY AWESOME B'CUZ YOU SOUND LIKE A COUPLA OLD FRIENDS JUST CUTTIN IT UP ... SO MUCHO KUDOS TO YOU BROTHER !!! ( SORRY DONT KNOW UR NAME LOL )
I knew 2 of Mick's brothers 40 years ago. He's definitely the high achiever in that family.
Don should have quit not Mick, he can't sing a single note anymore very sad and Dokken is one of my all time favorite bands since 1982.
Physical therapy might help, who knows. The last night I played in a band, the bass player spent everything we made on cocaine and a roadie woke us all up at 6:30 in the morning after an all night party at our hotel because his girlfriend was pissed. Then I had to drive the van and trailer with a pounding hangover on two hours sleep. I went to my mother's house and told her I was done because it wasn't fun anymore, she just looked at me and said you're growing up.
At least he knew when to ride off into the sunset.
I love Mick, but its not age. It's not taking care of yourself . Mick luuuuuuves to party.. which is why he's Wild Mick😎🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍷🍷😊
Black Oak Arkansas, and Tommy Aldridge did not play Woodstock.
He probably meant the ‘74 California Jam
Send them my way..I know the material. Ill fill in for ya Don.
Metal rules. Don't forget mikee dee played drums for a short time for Don. Before Motorhead
It’s frankly not drumming in and of itself that is so difficult; it was the bodies inability to tolerate those forces on the muscular system anymore. And yeah, after a lifetime of abuse, the body eventually reaches its limit.
Pain is the check engine light, folks. Regardless of what job you do. Take care of your body; eat right, proper nutrition, supplements, etc. And some kind of body therapy like Muscle Activation Techniques (MAT) to help your body feel its best. Otherwise, yeah, your body will eventually break down.
Never too late, Mick. Get some MAT work done.
don I loved ya back in the day. Retire. Chris Mcarville is getting tired of singing leads. Continue your spoken word at a coffee house
I never understood why people chose between Don or Lynch, they just seemed not to get along and none having the truth about some issue, or can I be missing a part of the history?
"Wild" Mick Brown
As of February 2022, all’s I want to know is if George is in good health so far if he still smokes/drinks, don if he still smokes/drinks, I know don no drugs ever, Jeff pilson what’s his status, and mick brown as of feb 2022, does he still drink and smoke, they are all old in age, hate to see the death of them, been to many.
I dont know...I think taking care of your body is still the most important thing for drummers, as the hardest position to play in a band. I am a drummer myself. But I dont think drums beat you up as much as you beat the drums up. Not like football players who get hit constantly, which takes a heavy toll. But drums don't hit people. I think you do develop some wear and tear obviously but if you take care of yourself, you should last a lot longer. The same goes for singers. You cant drink and smoke for 30+ years and still expect to have a good voice in older years. But those who took care of their bodies can still sing in old age. Not to knock my man Mick, but you can tell that he was not taking care of himself as well as he could or should have over the years so...yea! Max Roach and Buddy Rich literally played right up until the day they died, and Max was in his 80s.
Metallica basically ended Dokken's career in 1988 at Monsters of Rock
I was there...that 1st band that opened,, kingdom come, what a joke
The band were already done before that tour. They were all fighting each other (mainly between Don and George) at that point. In the end though, Dokken got paid way more than Metallica on that tour. Did Metallica kill their career? No, that's a fallacy.
Tommy Aldridge is the last of the great rock drummers!
Did Don say Tommy Aldridge played at Woodstock? Never heard that before.
Yeah, Don probably meant the ‘74 California Jam
I saw Mick Brown with Ted Nugent summer of 2005. He had a double bass kit and did not play any double kicks at all. The left bass drum was for show just as much as Ted's assortment of stage prop assault rifles resting on piles of sandbags all around the drum riser. He kept a steady beat but played no real chops at all. I was disappointed, especially since I heard that Aldridge was drumming for Ted a few years earlier. Hearing now that he was probably in pain back then during this gig makes sense.
Yet he has been playing with Ted Nugent all the time. I have been playing since I was 6 years old...played for a living for 20 years and then worked a day job and play drums every weekend since then till 2012. I have no knee or elbow or any problems from playing drums. I think the booze and drugs is where the problem...I never did drugs and drank responcibly. I also have friends who still are doing it.
Dokken outstanding band
Take your vitamins kids.
Drummers are athletes
You have to take care of your body to play drums
Don’s been doing this for decades now. I’m trying to recall a single interview where he doesn’t actually, subtle or not, trash his former band mates. That “ we’re too old now “ stuff is nothing more than George kicked my ass years ago, and still can. Started listening from Tooth and Nail, and I always wondered, if they had a vocalist with more of an “ edge “ in his range, they could have been bigger, better. They were the consummate professional opening band though.
The weakest link in Dokken has always been Don. Probably a shrewd businessman, but a mediocre singer.
That had nothing to do with, "edge"???bands área define by two things, vocals and guitars, everyband , look atbands like motley crue or poison, Even quiet riot, Vince Neil, Brett Michaels neither of them had great Range, or tecnique but Unique voices, voices ucan hear And recognize them, don used yo have a greath Range and a good voice but no tecnique, u talk a better voice would have make them bigger, want an example, look at lynch Mob,amqzing first álbum, amazing singer, second decente álbum, decente second singer, and didnt take them anywhere, pilson talk shit about don, and las egocéntric, about his playing and voice, but was never more than a backup singer, because never has a great voice, anyway, don had always been kinda dificult, (George too by te way) but u can't Say he is or was a terrible singer
@@kamaboko1 The weakest link in Dokken was George's ego. Don is Dokken.
Don can't do it anymore either, he sounds terrible!
We're to old to argue haha 🤣
I think Mrs Doubtfire got tired of playing the rib fest circuit
Mick use to be with Ted Nugent's Band, what happened with that????
Drummers need to be strong and physically fit - they are the 'Workers of the Band'
A lot of drummers have impressive muscularity from their drumming work.
The smart ones are also Physical Fitness Fanatics.
Long term self-abuse will always affect the drummers first.
I have to be honest.... I’ve have always loved dokken and there songs rock .......as we know good things never last . DON ? It’s time for you to pack it up!!!!! If I was you I would be embarrassed singing? It’s over my brother,, your done . I’m sorry you sound awful.
Don should've retired 10 or 15 years ago.
If your body is beat up, how can you manage to ride a motorcycle?
If he didn’t abuse alcohol , and drugs maybe he’d be better
Lol he got a dui driving a golf cart
Every drummer is different you don't have to be in top shape to play drums at a pro level Neil Peart and Buddy Rich were both physical trainers lol, Mick's body just broke down it's totally normal with age some folks are just more tolerant with pain than others
I wanna play some PlayStation with Mick Brown. What's his user name? 😂
Probably l PS1 or PS2
So many years I heard Don was an @$$4ole. Glad to know those rumors were lies. Though George was a great player, I learned later about his shortcomings as a player and lack of musical knowledge. Maybe that’s why he was so hard to get along with?
good DON should have quit 25 years ago ripping people off for a 1/4 decade
I saw him in 2000 he was alright couldn’t see him in the bands prime because I was just a baby. Now he should go on one last tour with the original members and retire. Why does he sing parts of that song Alright Now on Its Not Love? I don’t understand that at all.
Fair enough..now i ask myself: what makes Don Dokken thinks HE can still sing? It must be really hard to lose your voice, i mean, it must be a feeling similar to not being able to talk anymore but the last shows i saw from Dokken were truly pathetic. Don's attitude onstage doesn't helps. He doesn't moves, he barely speaks and the worst part, the WT*# PART(!) it's when he "sings". It makes your ears bleed. It's confusing & annoying and honestly sad. You left the venue with a mix of feelings but the most prevalent one is that you have been scammed out of a couple of dollars so that he can continue to pay for his food.
Don can’t sing no more he needs to give it up
They were never more than a support act anyway and the comeback Don's vocal were bloody terrible🤣🤣
nah, not from playing drums. It was all autoimmune pain from his vaccines.
How come other drummers don't go through that? It's hit and miss with vaccines.
Underdog - You are the worst humanity has to offer. What a douche.
Phil Collins can't play drums anymore because of bad posture. He's now in front full time.
Neil Peart stopped playing because of the toll it took on this back and arms.
Mick wasn't just in Dokken and Lynch Mob, he bashed the skins for Uncle Ted for years. That's a demanding job in itself!
That's horseshit Underdog. Talk to any drummer who has been around for a long time who can't afford physical therapy and so on.
@@christopherweise438 The worst humanity has to offer? What? ..and you're not a douche? We're all douches because none of us are perfect. Perhaps one day that toddler-like brain will grow up and mature into a sane, rational adult brain that thinks and reasons like an adult. More than likely, even if you live to be 150 years old, when you draw your last breath you'll be doing so still having the brain of a spoiled, petulant 3 year old toddler still sucking his thumb and wetting the bed at night.
I would say LOL ....but it's really not funny that you are you. It's really quite sad.
That’s uncanny that you understand the man’s affliction better than he!