Canon R3 Review: 10 Things I Love/Hate
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- Discussing five features on the R3 that are a big step forward for Canon's hybrid video functionality & five things that still need improvement.
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Discussing five features on the R3 that are a big step forward for Canon's hybrid video functionality & five things that still need improvement.
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0:00 - Intro & Disclosure
0:57 - Overheating/Record Limits
1:38 - Battery & USB Power
2:19 - Cards & Relay Recording
4:30 - Rolling Shutter
5:25 - IBIS
6:53 - Sponsor Message
7:40 - Dynamic Range
8:50 - CLog2 - Read Pinned Comment
9:27 - Micro HDMI?!
9:44 - ISO Range
10:17 - Color & White Balance
11:25 - Frame Rates & Crops
13:14 - Final Thoughts
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#CanonR3 #camera #review - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Hey Gerald. CLOG2 is available with the R3. You can see a clear difference in your video in the expansion of the shadow section on the waveform. The reason that there is no change between CLOG2 and CLOG1 in Davinci is because Canon no longer uses CLOG1 in the R3 and Davinci isn't doing a proper interpretation of the raw footage when CLOG1 is selected.
Hmm. I'll test it again and see if I can generate a higher score.
Do you know if this was also the case with the R5? The R5 performed the same way as the R3 seems to in Resolve, but the R5 definitely had Canon Log and not Canon Log 2.
Resolve's response seems identical to the R5 and R3, but I no longer have an R5 to confirm.
@@geraldundone The R5 does have Clog1 for non-raw recording. For both the R5 & R3 you can't transform the RAW footage into Clog1 inside Davinci or Cinema Raw Development. If you open up R5 or R3 raw footage with Canon's Cinema Raw Development software you'll see that Clog1 is not an available Gamma.
The info about Canon's tool is very interesting. I'm almost positive when I did my initial R5 review, I shot a clip in Canon Log 1 then compared it to the raw development in Resolve to see if it matched the Log 1 or Log 2 in that panel and it matched Log 1. But I don't have the assets to check. Bah! Am I going to have to get an R5 again?! Ha.
And the R3 doesn't have Canon Log 1 to do the same test.
This is interesting though and worth pinning to the top of the comments.
There's another good insight in these comments about this from Adrian Bacon who said:
"Unless the R3 does 14 bit ADC (instead of 12 bit ADC) in video mode, CLOG 2 won't give much as the camera will never capture more than 12 stops anyway"
@@geraldundone My understanding is that clog1 and clog3 have the same black point, whereas clog2 is flatter and has a darker black point. As a result, it would seem that around 9 minutes into your video, the R3 is indeed decoding into clog2 for both of the clog1/2 options, if we assume it's correctly decoding into clog3 when you select clog3.
That develops like a true crime story for tech nerds
Really appreciate how you talk about pros and cons that are different than the obvious ones you get from other reviews! Despite having watched a few videos on this camera before, I learned a lot about it in this video and that’s the same for all of your content. Great job!
You do the best camera reviews on TH-cam. By far. I know others will do it, but I’d love to see a comparison video by you between the Nikon Z9, canon R3 and Sony A1. Your opinion is worth more to me than others.
"Let's get Undone"? I miss it and the theme song! "He's cra-zy".
I'm just happy to know you're alive and well. Happy holidays, Gerald ❤
The review we've all been waiting for
My go-to guy for any camera tech reviews! 😍
Best R3 review I’ve seen. Covered all the bases I needed to know in one concise and fair overview.
Nice video Gerald. Really enjoyed hearing your take on the R3. Have you tried interpreting the raw footage as clog2 in premiere pro? The log curve looks almost identical to the c70 clog2. I show this in my R3 vs C70 video. (edit) just saw the comment section on the video and you addressed this. Thanks for sharing your testing.
Hello Gerald. Thank you for the video. Has Canon fixed the issues that you talked about within the last year by firmware updates or are all cons the same?
If I'm not mistaken the only other camera with those video specs is the new Nikon Z9, would be great to see your review of that camera!
Have you tried the Gh5 mk2? The Gh5s also outputs RAW. and the Gh6 has even better specs.
@@photogenic2010 It’s micro 4/3 with bad autofocus so that’s where they differ
Z9 > R3
Z9 has more video options but it’s cheaper.
Great video Gerald, as usual. Thank you for the time and effort you put into it!
Weird.. I literally just clicked on your channel to see if I had missed your latest upload. Saw that I hadn't and the instant that I clicked off I'm notified you uploaded this video 😄 love the channel. Happy Christmas to you and yours 🎅 Have a good one
Yours are hands down the best reviews on the web. Always. Can't wait for your R5c review.👏👏👏
Waiting for z9 review ☺!
i love your reviews man. youre always so informative and you go hard. appreciate you dawg.
Amazing review..appreciate this Gerald!
I cracked immediately after those 3 words "download stock footage".
Well done sir Undone.
Great video! Very informative.
I like this love/hate format. 👌🏻 this camera has my attention. Thanks Gerald.
Thanks Gerald for reviewing a Canon camera! So in depth
Hi Gerald! Excellent video! Glad to see it. I was worried you were suffering burnout. Happy holidays!
How does actual Dynamic Range compare to Sony Fx3 A7S3 in your tests?
Love this review Gerald. Thanks for making me laugh with your Storyblocks transition.
thanks Gerald the best camera reviewer.
merry christmas gerald!!
love the intro for the Ad! very creative!
i sold my sony a1 and bought the Canon R3..... it's an amazing camera...LOVE IT~!~!
Nice to see a review of a Canon from you again!
Some will still say he's a Sony fan.
This has to be the best channel on the internet for analysis of the pros and cons of different video and stills cameras.
I charged the battery while on for my review, this is absolutely possible. Also like already said. C-Log2 is there in RAW. You even seen CLog2 when importing RAW it's preselected. You can easily test is with the C-Log2 LUT.
Wow. First: Great rundown (as always!). Second: 4K120p and that menu for choosing video recording modes are awesome.
Some of these downsides are forgivable. But for the price they are charging, it's a little frustrating that Canon is still crippling features such as white balance and hdmi.
because its the CANON!))
The Canon Cripple Hammer never sleeps.
They need to sell cinema cameras this is understandable if not they will end up like Olympus.
@@TomasRamoska and what about Nikon? They don’t have cinema line. They could make great camera. But…
The WB thing is probably not a crippled thing, hopefully they have implemented it for stills for now and will make it for video in the future!
I have just got my R3 and after shooting some RAW footage it seems that in Final Cut Pro it actually gives you C-Log 2 I could see the difference between the 3 C-log flavors and when you select C-Log 2 it looks amazing! Dynamic range seems better on the R3 than on my C70 after a test.
At what frame rates and codec can you use c log 2 in the r3 ?
Thank you Gerald. You and Dustin are line a 1-2 punch…I come here for video and I go to Dustin for camera’s photo reviews :D. I keep watching you guy’s reviews like I’m watching Netflix :)).
Good video Gerald!
Love your review! please consider make Nikon Z9 review
I clicked the "thumbs up" when you did your ad read. Thanks for making ads not only bearable, but actually entertaining
Hi Gerald. Thanks for your efforts.
🔥 Review
Thank you 🙏
Thanks Gerald. I appreciate my R3’s video capabilities more now 👍🏼
Would love it if you could do one on the Nikon Z9!
Excellent review thanks
I loved that segue into the Storyblocks stuff.
Nice Video about the R3!
Another great review!
The absolute best look at this camera I've seen.
Nikon Z9 next woohoo!
Also I'd love a comparison between the A1, R3 and Z9, but we shall see!
Amazing video as always.
Only thing I’d say is I think you’re overlooking how savage Nikon’s Z9 video capabilities are with 8K 60 in Q1 2022 firmware update. Picking mine up tomorrow as the embargo in Canada is up then. 🙏🏻🤘🏼
Congratulations
However Z9 AF Tracking is not as good as Canon R3 or Sony A1. Also Eye/Face AF on the Z9 is bad in low light/under exposed scenes. Whereas the R3 nails it.
@@mainmain5303 Not him, but somebody else did. Jared Polin used it and showed to us the EVF recording, and it is apparent that the tracking is not as sticky as the Canon and Sony, in that it can easily get confused when something moves in front of the subject that it is tracking.
@@baredesigns1 It also has lower DR than most of the other bodies out there.
@Isaac, you're speaking from experience? @Kris... 1/3 of a stop less, which is imperceptible. But still awesome.
Thank you for mentioning that auto switch card thing where it still shops recording. I thought I was going crazy when I happened to me lol I was under the impression it would keep recording.
Can't remember which of my Canon cameras it did it on. Which means it's the same way on all their cameras 🤔
And the ibis wobble with wide angle lenses drives me nuts on my R5
Can't wait for Z9 review!
Great video about reviewing the R3 for video.
Hi Gerald. I have the R3 and R5C. I am trying to figure out which one to keep. I used the R3 all weekend and LOVE the battery life and how fast it is. I do prefer the R5C for the Cinema menu and tools since I do use it for filming. Your dynamic range does show 1 stop less in the R3 v the R5C (by the way, I think YOUR test v CineD was more accurate for everyday users). Is that still the case? Thanks much!
I never intended to get the R3, but the Micro HDMI port on a camera that size showed me how Canon really feels about their hybrid video users and was the final thing that pushed me to Sony, and after using Sony for a while now, I'm very grateful to the R3 for the push 😁
@ Tom Buck have you officially switched to Sony? If so please make a video about it.
great review, as always.
remark regarding IBIS 'wobble issues'. There is no physical way for the wobble not to occur, at least I don't see one. One can either correct the camera translation and rotation by shifting the sensor or not but it always will result in the change of perspective which for wide angle lenses causes the unfavorable 'wobble' distortion.
Maybe other manufacturers prevent their cams from 'wobbling' by accepting more shake, but other than that, there is no physical way to make it wobble less while correcting for displacement and rotation. Therefore I find it puzzling how people are saying canon is worse at it, I suppose this would mean that they're better at stabilizing?
I'm happy to learn what I don't know about it, optically, I see no way around it - could one prevent the wobble via software, sure, but the most robust in-cam stabilization is and always will be... shifting a cropped image. I think Sony's approach with the accelerometer/gyro data is the best approach for non-action cams outside of gimbals.
regards - photonics/optics physicist
I missed, let’s get Undone😢
Hi Gerald, loved your review. We’ve had this camera for about a month and believe from a image quality standpoint this might be the best hybrid currently available today. We were skeptical of the DXOMark’s claims that the R3 was the new “Low-Light King”, but after some testing (see our latest video) we have concluded that their assertions were indeed valid.
Dynamic range is excellent, especially when considering the readout speed.
I believe the Canon Eos R3 might just be the sleeper of the year. Again, great review… keep it up!
Awesome! I really started to fall for the "R3 downloads from Storyblocks" angle. I appreciate how thorough you are with the video features and the relevant comparisons to photo use. Even though I'm not in the target audience for those top end cameras, it's great to see how they perform and get a preview for what will be trickling down. Plus it's fun to think, "what if?"
With the R5c being announced in January, I think that'll be a good barometer of how Canon is going to treat hybrid cameras in regards to video.
If they make the R5c basically a baby R3 they will have a smash hit on their hands.
@@rileyschannel If the R5C has the same dynamic range as the R5, it'll be unfortunate. The R5/R6 has the worst video dynamic range of any recent full frame cameras out there
@@miltontan people have been making beautiful images with canon's lack of DR since the begining of time. Canon is always last when it comes to DR. What did you expect? the DR is still the best in any canon compact body to date at it's release.
Hi Gerald, About White Balance. I tested the new firmware on R6, and IT works in Video! The procedure is a little bit strange, you have to adjust White Balance with the new Live tool in Photo Mode and after that switch to Video mode. And your custom white balance is transfered to video mode. So It's not perfect but It's a big improvement compare to that we get before on Canon Cameras. The new white balance live tool allows you to to custom the white balance targetting a small area in the frame.
Yea I found out the auto switch limitation during a project, I also hope they fix this issue
Hope you saw it immediately and didn't lose too much before switching.
Awesome review
Thanks great review! I've been waiting for this one. Can you still only get 10-bit video when filming in log or also when recording in rec709?
10bit only if you use log. If you use standard picture profile its only 8bit sadly.(not like Sony and other cameras) I was disappointed when I found this out. Not specified in Canons specifications
Hi Gerald,
@3:50, Re: relay recording. If you put a small grommet inside the tiny hole where the memory card door latches onto to let the camera know it is opened or closed. Then you can trick the camera to think that it is always closed. If it works, then I would hope that you could hot swap memory cards but I wonder if it will keep recording to.the next available card.
And if the grommet is thin enough, you can still close the memory card door shut when you don’t need to swap cards.
If you still have the R3, maybe give it a try.
Great job❤❤❤
Would love to see an R3 vs A1 comparison!
Very nice review.
If the Sony a9III gets the same video features, it‘s the perfect camera for me
Can you please tell us what is your amazing studio light setup?
Hi Gerald, what video aspect ratio do you recommend uploading to TH-cam? Why do you choose 16:9 rather than a 2:1 ratio that many TH-camrs use to fill more of the screen space?
nice video ! which charger do you used you mentioned 100 watt - can you use a mac book pro charger ?
Great video
I like that canon cameras shut off when you open the card door. saved me from corrupting data so many times because I keep forgetting to turn cameras off and they go to sleep by themselves.
why is it so hard to find actual tested rolling shutter numbers for video, on this r3? i don't see it in this video either.
Can you please look into the Nikon Z9 would really love to hear your thoughts on that camera
What about the codecs? does it offer good H.265? How do I chose the bitrate?
I bought two of these cameras for video. It as you said is a dream to shoot with. Maybe not a C70 image but that camera has comprises and is dearer with the speed booster.
Can't wait for your z9 review!
The "card door shuts off the camera" is because of a switch in the card slot assembly that must be pressed down. I don't know if the switch is wired to physically cut power to be board or if it only sends a signal that the door has been opened and the camera needs to shut down.
my gone 1d mk4 still produced some memorable video from my recomlection.
Hey man I know this is way off subject but can you recommend me the best HDMI cables for 4K60 10bit output so I can record to my atomos ninja V that is not stiff.
Can we ger also z9 camera content like a review
Never been so excited for a review
Oh that means you're planning on spending a sh*t ton of money to buy it and you were just waiting for Gerald benediction right? 😂
Thank you for this. Question please: Is the R3 120 4k better than R5 1204k? Thank you. :-)
I’ve always found doing full stop jumps with ISO on any of my canon cameras had best performance.
Please make another 35mm lens review for Sony Full Frame
I hope you could make a quick video on how to expose S-Cinetone in the near future. Considering the a7iv has this picture profile.
Hi everyone, please which would you recommend for video 4k @24f/s. Canon R5, R6, or R3? thanks
3:48 I thing there is a bug because sometimes it does work when the card it full it auto switch without stopping the recording but it's on rare occasions. I think it's a canon thing because this in on multiple cameras. Also one time of my old 550d just once the assist beam did fire, on more than 5 years it didn't fire once and one time randomly it did.
I miss the Intro theme music.
The new white balance reading that is available in stills mode is maintained when switching back to video mode. With enough requests hopefully Canon will update to work directly in video mode.
Unless the R3 does 14 bit ADC (instead of 12 bit ADC) in video mode, CLOG 2 won't give much as the camera will never capture more than 12 stops anyway (as you've seen, due to 12 bit ADC, the same as 12-bit when in fully electronic stills mode). The fact that its noise performance is generally less than 1/3rd of a stop is excellent, everything else considered.
Interesting insight. I'm pinning a comment about this discussion and will mention this point in there. Cheers!
Er okay I'll say it: let's get Undone!
What’s the percentage needed when adjusting the 4K120 in premiere pro to look like normal 24fps?
Heard someone say 400%, but it just doesn’t look accurate imo.
The storyblocks Jebait was glorious
Just unboxed our R3 about 30minutes ago. I had no issue charging the R3 with USB-PD when camera is off. Update: it was charging fine at 5V 3A USB-PD 15W when off. WHen camera is on, there is almost no charging current.
Thank you sir. No hate but what happened/changed with your audio? Sounds like comp/lim distortion. Watching on iPhone 12
Best reviews in the biz, man… mega-awesome as always. As a former 1DXII and recent R5 guy, I was really interested to hear how the R3 handles video - even if I’m not going to be in the market for this model.
It’s great to hear that they’ve fixed the overheating with the bigger body, and the improved DR and ISO performance are also big wins. I’m surprised that they still have the IBIS wobble, though… I wouldn’t expect that from a $6,500 camera.
Thanks for always doing such a thorough job!
I'm sure that IBIS wobble will be solved with firmware. The R5 had the same thing at the start and it was solved with some firmware.
How this slow mo condensed in 30 p file affects the editing in scenarios like speed ramps? It does the same thing with the 1080p slow mo?
It's funny ow many complaints are software related because I have similar gripes to my R6. Granted overall I LOVE it, it's annoying when things are limiting because of software (mainly UI) decisions!