at 15:25 you state that the Joker agrees to free his hostages while the Riddler thinks he killed his hostages already. The opposite is true actually. The comic panel shown on screen shows at the same time shows this to be the case.
You know, I love both your show and ComicPOP. And you always seem to be on opposite sides of the opinion of a story. In this case, I side with you. This was amazing. Thanks Rob. I am surprisingly choked up over the proposal too.
Mike Gould it's an odd situation. Rob needs comics to be good. He has a vested interest in covering old comics (that aren't for sale) and hinting that new ones are worth buying. Turns out the old ones have the good stories, on average, and the new ones are trash (DC excluded) which is why he doesn't cover much new marvel stuff. He's not biased as a criminal type, but he is biased as a self interested type. It's not malicious, is what I'm saying.
King, imo, relies on bomb drops in his plots to make up for his bland characters. Case and point, Batman gets his back broken again, Bane gets his back broken, Batman proposes to Catwoman, Batman tries to kill the Riddler and so on. His Bruce Wayne is less of a character and more of a tool in his toolbox that he uses to advance his plots, which are average at best.
I'd have to disagree, yes sometimes it takes a bit long to build up and events like I am Suicide may feel hit or miss, where rest of the titular crew, minus Scarface and Bats feels under-focused, even Catwoman, either of them, weren't handled any better, or Gotham Girl, who's potentially a good character but just doesn't get the right arc yet. But I enjoyed the things he did right, his Bane is definitely the best Bane I've seen in almost a decade or two. The Robins interacting is a thing I've been waiting to happen and wasn't disappointed in their lighthearted moments. Kite Man had been interesting from the start of this run and King just explodes his character development in a single arc. Joker, being the joker maybe is not in the level some previous incarnations but is still great, Riddler is showing what made him even more of a better villain in new 52. Overall King is doing a great job and I think he doesn't deserve the hate.
Rob! I've been watching your videos for a while and I love what you do! I've always been curious about the comic world, and curious about the stories, but starting in on reading through all the comics for myself can seem like such a monumental task with the sheer volume of comic content out there. I've found your videos are the perfect way for me to catch up on the events leading into x y and z without feeling lost and confused as to the overarching plots and preamble to events. I was never quite interested enough to dive in when I didn't know where to start. Through your videos I've been able to narrow down the story arcs I find most interesting, and been able to go back and read those stories without feeling like there where huge chunks of the universe I didn't understand or was missing out on. Thank you! I am now a proud member of the Rob Core!
I am Gotham, WOJAR, and Trinity are doing a great job of renewing Batman's character and expanding the possibilities for good storytelling. the routine "insert plot device and ridiculous explanation here" stories are what drove many fans away from Batman, but showing that he has limits, faults, and fears force writers to really consider the story they're crafting rather than exploiting lazy loopholes and the fact of fans allowing Batman to do anything just because he's Batman. I haven't had this much fun reading his stories since I was a kid back in the day.
As usual, amazing video! I just finished the volume and your recap helped me get more perspective. Only thing to note is that the joker killed his hostages and the riddler let them go. This was huge for Bruce because he was testing them to see which one would be easier to work with.
Had to pause the video before it ended because I realized issue 32 was out and rob was about to spoil it for me. Now I'm back. Joker asked Batman if he knew the difference between a joke or a riddle. I can answer that. One is supposed to make you laugh (Joker) the other is supposed to frustrate you (Riddler), he stopped Batman from killing Nigma, because that's what Edward is supposed to do; he's supposed to upset Bruce. Can't kill him for that.
Interesting analysis of the story Rob. I viewed this as a bruce wayne story than anything and how he deals with being batman and how we finally see him slip up and let his emotions get the better of him. Shows that he is more human than his recent stories show and kind of develops his personality towards people he cares about
Thank you for spinning this, I watched cape-joel and was "not the best retcon but i loved Kite-Man", now the way you said/explained it made me love the story, thank you Rob.
It seems like no one is talking about the three Jokers in the comics community. Did people forget? I would think that that story arc is coming soon. It’s been over a year and a half. I do like the subtlety, though.
@Comics Explained could you do videos on who could use the power stone and/or the infinity gauntlet. I think it would be awesome to see who could use that much power besides Thanos it would be so cool to see all the DC and marvel charters who could handle so much
I love that either, Joker grabbed some random person's teeth or, just as likely, he had already taken that mobster's mother's teeth (since Metropolis was more than an hour away).
Hahahaha the best thing coming out love it. Haven't been watching lately cause I haven't had time to read all my stuff. Love the breakdowns bro keep up the great work
ROB MAN! You didn't explain the ending! He tries to kill the riddler because the only reason Riddler started the war was to try and make the Joker laugh again, because he (the Riddler) considered Joker's inability to laugh the greatest riddle. Batman then thought back to all the people who died in their war (hundreds) and realised that they all died just so Riddler could try and prove his intelligence, THATS WHY Batman was so angry.
The story was better than I thought it would, it was wise to have Batman do something very unbecoming of him early in his career, the best part being the Joker's intervention; I'm thinking that moment maybe is what drives Joker to wanna push Batman past his limits and his code.
You didn't mention one of the most important twists in the story: the fact that the Riddler started and deliberately lost the war, and used Kite-Man as a foil, to make the Joker laugh, to try to solve the riddle of the Joker. It is this twist that leads Batman to try to kill the Riddler. Batman doesn't try to kill Riddler because he thinks it is the only way to beat him. He does so because he is disgusted that Riddler did the horrible things he did for a joke that would solve a riddle.
Dude, you totally glazed over that reference to Batman (1989). That scene where Riddler's having surgery is exactly like the scene where Jack Nicholson's Joker sees his messed-up face for the first time.
I actually find it funny that the joker stopped batman from killing a person when all he wants now if for batman to kill somebody even if it was himself
I think comic book fans have pretty much decided that Bats and Cats was in continuity years ago. Its actually the only think that makes sense, case in point, why so many people disregarded that batwoman and Batman "incident" that took place in the Killing Joke movie. Regardless, its ABOUT DAMN TIME that Batman got his OFFICIAL love interest in the same manner as Supes, Spiderman, Green Arrow, etc. And I am also grateful that the way they became official was written SO BEAUTIFULLY!!!! I think some amazing stories can come from this, and I can't wait to witness them!!!
Oh my God you don't know how long I've been waiting for this video to come out! Love your show.
I love how Bruce is being all dramatic about what he did and Selina is like "who cares?... Yes, I'll marry you, dummy" 😂💍
Now the Joker has a _punchline_ lol
at 15:25 you state that the Joker agrees to free his hostages while the Riddler thinks he killed his hostages already. The opposite is true actually. The comic panel shown on screen shows at the same time shows this to be the case.
Jason Flewelling
Oops... Haha...
I would make so many errors...
I didn't want to be the first one to point that out
Yea i noticed that but ik Rob be tired and he made the mistake like we all would make some.
But yea i noticed too.
So, the joker did killed his hostages or was it the riddled who killed his hostages ?
Gar Adiuvat The Joker killer his hostages, and the Riddler let his go, but he said it backwards.
Kite Man. Hell Yeah!
NinetailPhoenix tbh The Ballad of Kite Man made the most ridiculous character badass
I love how every story Rob covers automatically becomes the best comic to come out of DC Rebirth.
It would be a shorter list to tell what aren't "probably the best things coming out DC Rebirth".
You know, I love both your show and ComicPOP. And you always seem to be on opposite sides of the opinion of a story.
In this case, I side with you. This was amazing. Thanks Rob. I am surprisingly choked up over the proposal too.
Proposal is the only good thing in this book imo. That being said I still don't want Tom King writing it.
Mike Gould it's an odd situation. Rob needs comics to be good. He has a vested interest in covering old comics (that aren't for sale) and hinting that new ones are worth buying. Turns out the old ones have the good stories, on average, and the new ones are trash (DC excluded) which is why he doesn't cover much new marvel stuff.
He's not biased as a criminal type, but he is biased as a self interested type. It's not malicious, is what I'm saying.
Mike Gould best in along time bullshit
King, imo, relies on bomb drops in his plots to make up for his bland characters. Case and point, Batman gets his back broken again, Bane gets his back broken, Batman proposes to Catwoman, Batman tries to kill the Riddler and so on. His Bruce Wayne is less of a character and more of a tool in his toolbox that he uses to advance his plots, which are average at best.
I'd have to disagree, yes sometimes it takes a bit long to build up and events like I am Suicide may feel hit or miss, where rest of the titular crew, minus Scarface and Bats feels under-focused, even Catwoman, either of them, weren't handled any better, or Gotham Girl, who's potentially a good character but just doesn't get the right arc yet.
But I enjoyed the things he did right, his Bane is definitely the best Bane I've seen in almost a decade or two. The Robins interacting is a thing I've been waiting to happen and wasn't disappointed in their lighthearted moments. Kite Man had been interesting from the start of this run and King just explodes his character development in a single arc. Joker, being the joker maybe is not in the level some previous incarnations but is still great, Riddler is showing what made him even more of a better villain in new 52. Overall King is doing a great job and I think he doesn't deserve the hate.
I think this story overall was great. I just felt the falling action was a bit boring. But the finale was amazing.
Kite Man is a good example of the Joker's mantra: All it takes is one bad day.
Riddler structure and order joker chaos and randomness
That was the most EPIC story I’ve heard in a while. Jolly good show Rob!!
Carmine Falcone, Rob. Not Infantino. The latter is a late comic artist
OJ Simpson haha.... yeah, I was going to say 😂
It's hard to like all the videos when another good one comes on auto play. Keep up the good work Rob.
Detective comics is the best thing coming out of DC Rebirth
Darkbat Horse, meet baseball bat.
No, is Superman Rebirth
I've never imagined saying this but I want more kitman stories
"Hell yea."
I'm in for more too!
This was one of the BEST BATMAN STORIES EVER!!!!!As usual, Great job, Rob!!!!!!
Rob! I've been watching your videos for a while and I love what you do! I've always been curious about the comic world, and curious about the stories, but starting in on reading through all the comics for myself can seem like such a monumental task with the sheer volume of comic content out there. I've found your videos are the perfect way for me to catch up on the events leading into x y and z without feeling lost and confused as to the overarching plots and preamble to events. I was never quite interested enough to dive in when I didn't know where to start. Through your videos I've been able to narrow down the story arcs I find most interesting, and been able to go back and read those stories without feeling like there where huge chunks of the universe I didn't understand or was missing out on.
Thank you! I am now a proud member of the Rob Core!
I am Gotham, WOJAR, and Trinity are doing a great job of renewing Batman's character and expanding the possibilities for good storytelling. the routine "insert plot device and ridiculous explanation here" stories are what drove many fans away from Batman, but showing that he has limits, faults, and fears force writers to really consider the story they're crafting rather than exploiting lazy loopholes and the fact of fans allowing Batman to do anything just because he's Batman. I haven't had this much fun reading his stories since I was a kid back in the day.
As usual, amazing video! I just finished the volume and your recap helped me get more perspective. Only thing to note is that the joker killed his hostages and the riddler let them go. This was huge for Bruce because he was testing them to see which one would be easier to work with.
Had to pause the video before it ended because I realized issue 32 was out and rob was about to spoil it for me. Now I'm back. Joker asked Batman if he knew the difference between a joke or a riddle. I can answer that. One is supposed to make you laugh (Joker) the other is supposed to frustrate you (Riddler), he stopped Batman from killing Nigma, because that's what Edward is supposed to do; he's supposed to upset Bruce. Can't kill him for that.
Once again rob we agree, this is one of the best batman stories in years. It ranks up there with the likes of long Halloween and tdkr.
Interesting analysis of the story Rob. I viewed this as a bruce wayne story than anything and how he deals with being batman and how we finally see him slip up and let his emotions get the better of him. Shows that he is more human than his recent stories show and kind of develops his personality towards people he cares about
Thank you for spinning this, I watched cape-joel and was "not the best retcon but i loved Kite-Man", now the way you said/explained it made me love the story, thank you Rob.
Thank you for posting this! I have been waiting to hear your take, and the video exceeded expectations.
I hope u share the next part today! Another brilliant delve into one my my favorite superheroes!
It seems like no one is talking about the three Jokers in the comics community. Did people forget? I would think that that story arc is coming soon. It’s been over a year and a half. I do like the subtlety, though.
what do you think is it good or great or just bad?
3 Joker story is supposed to happen after the ending of Metal and before the Watchmen crossover concludes.
Damien Lee thank you!
Damien Lee the second joker is on Metal #1 isn’t he? he is the one in the secret cave in the secret batcave lol
Malek Khodr if the first joker is the one in the video, this is set in the past
This is what Reeves is building up to.
You’ll see once you see the ending of The Batman and joker and riddler talking in the cell
amazing commentary, you did justice to the artworks
@Comics Explained
could you do videos on who could use the power stone and/or the infinity gauntlet. I think it would be awesome to see who could use that much power besides Thanos it would be so cool to see all the DC and marvel charters who could handle so much
It better come out today I waited sooo long for you to cover this
I love that either, Joker grabbed some random person's teeth or, just as likely, he had already taken that mobster's mother's teeth (since Metropolis was more than an hour away).
Dude, you have officially gotten me back into comics. Thanks man.
As always my brother. Another superior video!!!
You say that everything is the best thing coming out of dc rebirth 😂😂
Andrew Shacket That means there are a lot of good things coming out of Rebirth.
Andrew Shacket 8/10 top selling comics are from dc in general.....
last week it was 9/10
Andrew Shacket that’s because it’s true, basically every story is great!
8/10? Guess Marvel is stepping up their game as they said.
Great job Rob! I look forward to more videos like this.
That ending got you so giddy! Love ya work. Keep em coming.
You are one heck of a story teller. Bravo!!!
Hahahaha the best thing coming out love it. Haven't been watching lately cause I haven't had time to read all my stuff. Love the breakdowns bro keep up the great work
Good morning sir and thank you for another best thing coming out right now
I Have been waiting for this video :) Loved this story when I read it.
Glad to hear u liked WOJAR, ik others didn’t like the ending or other parts but I loved it all. Janin’s art is pretty great too.
When the joker found Batman trying to kill funny makes him laugh is gold.
I love this story
Frowning joker is more like his first appearances
THATS THE POINT THIS TAKES PLACE AFTER ZERO YEAR SO IT IS HIS EARLY APPEARANCE IN THE TIME LINE
oh i just said that cuz it looks the same execpt for his eyes
oh you mean where he actually HAD more than a default facial expression? i agree.
shit, good spotting!
bro you explained it very nicely
really nicely done
GREAT video!!! Can't wait for the next installment!
Another great video rob. Amazing
ROB MAN! You didn't explain the ending! He tries to kill the riddler because the only reason Riddler started the war was to try and make the Joker laugh again, because he (the Riddler) considered Joker's inability to laugh the greatest riddle. Batman then thought back to all the people who died in their war (hundreds) and realised that they all died just so Riddler could try and prove his intelligence, THATS WHY Batman was so angry.
Great video rob keep up the good work!
The story was better than I thought it would, it was wise to have Batman do something very unbecoming of him early in his career, the best part being the Joker's intervention; I'm thinking that moment maybe is what drives Joker to wanna push Batman past his limits and his code.
8:17 there is a really cool easter egg for Tim Burton's Batman (1989) a few panels before that.
For dc eu would you have rathered Jessie eisenburg play riddler rather than lex?
Ordoric I think everyone thought that. I think Jessie Eisenberg himself thought he was gonna play the riddler.
What if they do a twist where lex got his identity stolen by riddler
And the one from bvs is actually the riddler
It may save Jessie eisenburgs career
Riddler
Ordoric personally I would rather Jesse Eisenberg just up and went away. That's preferable to any alternative.
You didn't mention one of the most important twists in the story: the fact that the Riddler started and deliberately lost the war, and used Kite-Man as a foil, to make the Joker laugh, to try to solve the riddle of the Joker. It is this twist that leads Batman to try to kill the Riddler. Batman doesn't try to kill Riddler because he thinks it is the only way to beat him. He does so because he is disgusted that Riddler did the horrible things he did for a joke that would solve a riddle.
Batman attempting to calmly attempt to kill the Riddler makes the evil Batmen from Metal more believable.
Loved it thanx can’t wait for part 2
I *actually* can't get enough of the "It's the best thing coming out of DC Rebirth right now" meme from Rob.
You have the best comic videos
yes i have been waiting for this one thank you
"The Riddler believes he killed his before he showed up..."
Got them mixed up there a bit.
This was a part of the King run that I did enjoy. 👍
Great video Rob 👍
Comics Explained To The Best of My Ability LOL love you Rob!
Batman needs to work on his pillow talk poor Catwoman
Where was Catwoman at this time
doctor leak in the war, she wasn’t on either side but she helped out batman
Really enjoyed this one!!
This IS the best comic that was ever uploaded here. Holy shit.
Heading to comics store right now .. like this a lot I had to subscribe 💪🏾🤙🏾
thanks rob for not giving us cliff hanger videos
Good shit Rob
This is most definitely getting an animated adaptation and I hope the art work is as awesome
The day after I buy the comic you make the video.. Thanks Rob
The Big Bang that started the universe is the best thing coming out of DC REBIRTH right now... lol ;) Love your channel Rob!
IHE is either laughing or suprised with what DC is doing with Kite Man now.
Dude, you totally glazed over that reference to Batman (1989). That scene where Riddler's having surgery is exactly like the scene where Jack Nicholson's Joker sees his messed-up face for the first time.
As a Marvel fan, this is the best DC story arch I'v ever heard. Good stuff Rob!
9:25 Actually, it's more f*cked up. Joker went and did that *before* even giving Carmine the option
I've been waiting on this since the story dropped. HYPED!
I would LOVE to have seen more of the fight between Deadshot and Deathstroke.
lol cops going to riddler for answer of cases
BEN Tsay surprised it hasn't happened sooner (or more often at least)
At first I thought your channel was a bit boring but I'd like it as I like comic drake
Been waiting on this one!!
I'm starting to think every story you read is .... "Ammmmmmmmazzzzing"
Ayyy here it is finally it's
The best thing coming out of DC rebirth right now
according to what is shown on screen joker says he forgets if he killed his before he came, not the riddler assuming he did
Hey Bro love the channel! from Australia
Awesome as always.
Oh my God! Rob you don't know how just awesome you are
war of jokes and riddles is one of the best things in a while
also HELL YEA KITE MAN
I know you have a schedule, but I just need you to do EARTH X at some point and time!!!! Lol!
Another great video. I know it isn't continuity or anything, but I'm waiting for a bit of banter with Selena trying to get Damian to call her mom.
Very nice story man, Zero year was damn good so this is gonna have to get read as well!!! Go Kite Man lol
I actually find it funny that the joker stopped batman from killing a person when all he wants now if for batman to kill somebody even if it was himself
Wow just Wow. What joke did. Just when i think him and batman couldnt be more connected. This story, that ending just wow.
Dude... that was intense... but a great story
Hey rob, can you make a quick video tying this into zero year? Or in vol 2 just explain more in terms of what happened in between this and zero year.
Best thing coming out of DC rebirth says that in every video thanks for doing this great story
Rob, longtime fan. Can you do a discussion on Batman under the hood? My fave story ever!
Bump
This a great story more riddler vs joker, I kinda like the interaction of those two villain
Another great vid!
13:53 Agent 47 is a casualty of war between Deathstroke and Deadshot. OMG!
I think comic book fans have pretty much decided that Bats and Cats was in continuity years ago. Its actually the only think that makes sense, case in point, why so many people disregarded that batwoman and Batman "incident" that took place in the Killing Joke movie.
Regardless, its ABOUT DAMN TIME that Batman got his OFFICIAL love interest in the same manner as Supes, Spiderman, Green Arrow, etc. And I am also grateful that the way they became official was written SO BEAUTIFULLY!!!! I think some amazing stories can come from this, and I can't wait to witness them!!!
1:15 that riddler face.