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This is our last video of 2019! Technically, we shot this video before the Kinect Past Mortem but this is our last upload of the year. If you've been following us recently, you know this has been a wild and tough year for SSFF. Producer Grace and I are so lucky to be able to do this for a living but there were days in 2019 where we genuinely weren't sure if we could keep going. But you all came through and have continued to support us, and 2020 is looking like a year full of possibility. We did 33 videos this year! That's almost 3 videos a month! We gotta see if we can beat that record in 2020! And knowing that we have YOUR support is going to make it all worth it. We'll be taking a short vacation for the next few weeks, but we'll be back in January, rested and ready to crush it in 2020.
Rest well. Never Stop. Stay Powerful.
-Uncle Derek
Hopefully this video gives you a sub boost, kinda excited to see you collab with Lockstin.
No matter what, keep stopping them skeletons from fighting
get some well deserved rest derek and grace
Stop Skeletons From Fighting this video is feature packed, great stuff and imma’ go subscribe to the Pokémon guy you got there!
Great Stuff as always!
@Stop Skeletons From Fighting
I am not being alerted about your vids in my sub. I had to again resub to you just to see this one on my feed. Love you content and wanted you to know about this issue which is likely due to youtube.
More slot shaming
In Producer Grace's voice: *Motionlessjinx19*
Dont be a slot.
stop slot shaming, @@kevinvu5432
Having Aria of Sorrow in the GBA slot when you boot up Dawn of Sorrow didn't ONLY have that doll appear. It also let you start a new game with the "Rare Ring" In your inventory which when equipped, causes enemies to drop items more often. VERY USEFUL.
WAT??? Christ if i knew i would never have bought the DSi back then,but DS Lite instead. Dawn of Sorrow was great.
Portrait of Ruin was great. But Ecclesia was excellent.
That's why I like portable Castlevania games the most!
Thanks for having me on! Excellent content as always!
it's been an entire year and no one has replied, huh
@@chiefhydropolis oh yeah, I actually didn't notice that!!
But yeah though, I actually didn't notice
Skeleton fight:
Lockstin & Gnoggin vs Matt McMuscles
The DS is an incredible piece of engineering.
I would agree with this. For 2004 it did a lot. It might not be all in power as the psp came out the next year but all the other aspects where thought out to get the max amount of things you can do with it.
Well these peripherals were.
PleaseDontWatchThese owning (and helping dev some PSP games) the PSP was less an engineering marvel. The DS Lite and co were way better engineered. The tech in the hinge alone was ahead of its time.
Yup. Even more so when you learn it was never intended to go online. They hacked in support post launch with their WiFi config tool being manually added to each WiFi enabled cart. The DSi does support it natively, hence why they support more wireless standards. I love it!
Boss Baddie youre out of your mind or you are smoking some high end crack if you even have the slightest thought that ANY original DS model was even close to the PSP in terms of technological achievement.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention that there was extra Pokémon you could get in the wild using the GBA games in the slot. For example you can catch wild Gengar without having to trade for them in the haunted mansion area of the game. Really neat feature which makes replaying the game easier in 2019 because you don’t need friends to get some of the good mons.
lol I felt like half way though the pokemon segment he gave up mentioning all the ways pokemon used it.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 I can't blame him. There so many info about pokemon, it's overwhelming to cover in one video lol
That's for the third video. XD
Man, I miss when Pokémon games aimed for as much content as possible. Sad how gen 4 has a larger dex than gen 8
@@justarandompurplefox3243 They can get away with it since they are sprites back then. Nowadays with 3D assets, you expect to animate every single pokemon in a 3 dimentional space. Try to animate 600+ pokemon in 2 or 3 years of development, especially with pokemons that didn't have any before.
Still though, Gamefreak cheap out by recycling assets from the 3dS instead of making new ones.
Fun fact:
You can substitute a Rumble Pak with WarioWare Twisted and it would have a similar result.
Noman Alam does that apply to drill dozer too?
Tried it with Elite Beat Agents and it doesn't work.
@@polocatfan it's true, but only with Twisted, not Drill Dozer
@@polocatfan it actually does work on same games, but not all of them read it correctly.
Yes, but the rumble is weaker.
You don't need the rumble pack. If you have Wario Ware Twisted or Drill Dozer, the DS will read them as rumble in compatible games. I know this because I was playing Super Princess Peach and I was too lazy to take out Drill Dozer and out of nothing it started to rumble when I got hit. It was a pleasant, although weird, surprise.
Knowledge in the comments
sadly it seems that isn't the case for wario twisted.
I tried it and didn't worked. then again I don't own any rumble compatible game, so I tried with a flashcart (2. an r4 running wood and a dstwo. I did fiddled with the settings but nothing worked).
ChibbyTonx holy crap, i was just thinking how i needed to track down a ds rumble pak but i have drill dozer. thank you!
Interesting find! Unfortunately, I've yet to replicate this. I tried using Drill Dozer as a Rumble Pak substitute for Magnetica and Metroid Prime Pinball and couldn't get either game to recognize it. Even tried booting in auto mode to no avail. Best I could do was get the system to very briefly recognize Drill Dozer as a DS Option Pak on startup, which makes me think the work-around is possible under the right circumstances. It doesn't seem to work if the system treats what's in the GBA slot as a game, but maybe there's a way to trick it?
ChibbyTonx wario Ware twisted has a gyroscope not a rumble so I think you’re wrong there
Another game that used the GBA slot for stuff is Super Robot Wars W. Super Robot Wars W takes advantage of the NDS's double cartridge slots by way of giving the player the option of additional money from starting a new game with the GBA based SRW games slotted, and provides a special unit part for each; the part is "Soul of (Dai-2-Ji)SRW-(A/R/D/J/OG/OG2)"; the part in parenthesis is what varies in the name. each part adds various amounts to the equipped unit's Armor, Mobility, and Accuracy. Though SRW 2 for the GBA is extremely rare due to the fact that it was only bundled with Super Robot Wars GC.
Yeah, my mans repping the best handheld SRW! Good shit.
yup, with soul of J.... it was basically an orgone cloud(a very broken skill)... which lets you basically breez through the game,
There was also a Band Brothers “Expansion Pak” that released in Japan only, and added several tracks to that music game. As far as I know, it’s the only physical expansion pack for a portable game ever released.
the last time I was this early, my Nintendo handheld gaming device could play both Nintendo DS and Nintendo Game Boy Advance games
ah, yes, the nintendo three ds.
2007? Actually. That could have been possible. TH-cam was around then.
Now I got reminded of an awful event... I had my DS Lite with Pokémon Pearl in the DS slot and Ruby in the GBA slot. I had 100%'d Ruby which is really difficult to do. I had every single Pokémon, even event-only ones. All legit, too.
Then, at work, someone stole my DS and the inserted Pokémon games. I never got them back and I'm still sad.
Real1Gaming There’s a special place in hell for that.
Nothing goes unpunished or unanswered
DSLinux can use the Memory Expansion Pak.
It might not sound like much these days, with smartphones and all that, but back then having a (nigh)full Linux machine in your pocket was pretty neat.
I was a longtime Boktai fan, so I was happy to see Lunar Knights use the old GBA carts as sensors. But it was kind Limited! The carts only took a "snapshot" of the sunlight hitting them at a given moment, then used that for a period of time. Then you had to expose it to more Sunlight for the bonuses. I would have preferred a full-on real-time solar sensor, but Lunar Knights was working off of an internal weather system, so I see why they didn't.
Fun fact: there were 3 Boktai games, but only 2 came to the us. In order, when connected to Lunar Knights (titled "Boktai DS" in Japan), they'd restore your Health, Magic, or Trance gauge. Because the 3rd game never came to the us, they just made Boktai 2 restore both your SP *and* your Trance.
Also, the Konami/Capcom links predate MMBN5 for DS; Boktai's cameos with MMBN started with Battle Network 4. Kojima himself cameos in the game in a Boktai-themed area! If you want some really fun wonky-periferal fun, track down a copy of Boktai 2 and MMBN5 and two Wireless adapters for the GBA. The games had a "crossover battle" mode where both games had a unique fight against Shademan.EXE, and could send the other player "hazards" to make the fight harder. And it only worked with the wireless adapters, you couldn't use the link cable for it.
Man, i remember playing MMBN 5 normally on my ds until one day i stumbled onto a gamefaqs thread where i discovered i could use sol-cross with my boktai 2 cartridge, now even when i emulate the game i just can't go without the power of the sun.
Ooh, I remember Boktai 2 and MMBN5's crossover battle! Played it a couple of times with my brother and it was surprisingly fun, too.
On top of that, linking the two games would also unlock new content in both, if I remember correctly. Boktai 2 at least has a short sidequest involving MegaMan.EXE that was otherwise inaccessible (unlike a lot of the Boktai content in the Battle Network games) and I still have the bonus items from that on my cartridge.
The DS web browser is how I explored the internet in my youth. I had so much fun reading forums and Wikipedia with it.
I only knew it existed once it came on the DSi.
"Hey I'm Derek, it's me Derek"
~Derek, 2019
Achievement unlocked!
Mention Mega Man: Battle network without trashing on it!
It took like 10 years, but I knew eventually we'd get here ☺️
I'd like to introduce you to a guy by the name of ShadowRockZX-
Uh, what? I've only ever heard praise for Mega Man Battle Network, except for the fourth one which is bad I guess.
You never mentioned how in the pokemon games, on top of being able to transfee them, in the sinnoh games in particular spesific pokemon will appear in the wild depending on the game you have inserted, like growlithe can be on route 201 if you have fire red inserted, or in the old chateu, you can find wild gengar if you have any main series GBA pokemon game inserted
Thats really cool, I'd never heard of that before!
“We might have the useless thing we have had on punching weight”
I wonder if Derek truly knows how high a bar that is, and if he will ever be able to say it again
The colors look kinda desaturated.
Are you saying they are missing a LUT or some kind of color correction?
Also lots of autofocus hunting. Not the most egregious sort where the camera will cycle through its entire range of focus but the edges will periodically go between in focus and slightly soft.
Derek: "Pokemon is like rock, paper, scissors. right?"
Lockstin: "cute..."
Lockstin: Can we have our Skeletons fight each other?
Derek : * glances at channel name *
Am I a joke to you?
My personal hell is watching you tubers doing collaboration’s where they film separately but act like they are responding directly in the video
That's a very specific kind of hell.
Oh wow, your new camera really doesn't like colours does it....
Could maybe turn up the saturation a lil
Yeah it looks awful
He’s probably still figuring it out. But yeah, the color is washed out in this video, and the brightness/contrast levels need a tweaking.
Give him a little time and he’ll figure it out!
These creative cartridges always got my curiosity.
That bit from Lockstin is scarily accurate. Also, Derek is a Genwunner.
Professor Dragonite How?
I am so happy that this video mentions Battle Network 5. I love that game so much.
Castlevania Aria of Sorrow also gives you a rare ring to start the game with in Dawn of Sorrow!
Another DS game that used the GBA slot was Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2. If you open a file with the original Final Fantasy Tactics Advance in the GBA slot, you unlock the clan ability Libra, which reveals all traps and their types on the field.
The real use for the Memory Expansion Pak is to run Quake II on a flash cart
7:24 Sims 2 DS REPRESENT! Fun fact: The unlock you get from putting the Game Boy game in the GBA cart while playing the DS game is the minigame Moogoo Monkey, a card game in the hotel's Casino room! This unlock isn't exclusive to owning the GBA game as well- if you play on December 14th, you'll get a call and you'll unlock the game for that save forever.
There's a whole selection of stuff from this game to talk about if you do something on games that use the DS' calendar and clock. Do it some time!
Congratulations to Derek of Stop Skeletons From Fighting for being the first, last, and only person who remembered the existence of Pokémon Dash in the 2010s
Stop Skeletons from Fighting. Good video bro. One recommendations for when you are have conversations with someone else. Split the screen in half, dedicating the left half to you and right have to him. It helps with continuity.
Thumbs up for mentioning Mega Man Battle Network 5 DS. That was hands down one of my favorite games on the DS, and the connectivity with GBA games was pretty wild. Aside from the SolCross transformation, there were also two different BassCross transformations that could be unlocked, both of which were pretty awesome. One of my favorite features of the GBA slot connectivity was that you could unlock new battle themes by plugging different MMBN games into the GBA slot, all of which were remixes of the battle themes of the respective game.
Those remixes are some incredible stuff, man.
"-Except for soothing my INNER DRACULA RAGE.... We all have it, it's part of growing up"
It's lines like those that kept me around since Metal Storm, shine on you crazy diamond.
Seeing the PS Move gun peripheral in the Nord VPN promo makes me wonder if we'll ever get a video on the PS Move. Something neat about the camera used for the PS Move, the PS Eye, you can actually use it with Little Big Planet to take pictures and then you can use those pictures as stickers in the game.
I remember playing Newer Super Mario DS once, and it actually detected the copy of WarioWare Twisted I had in my GBA slot and could use the rumble capabilities of that cartridge, which I found pretty interesting.
Aww yeah! More slot on slot action!
"We don't slot shame, we slot appreciate."
10:19 I ADORE the way you used ExtrEmE as the song in the background!
The colour balance looks off, other than that it seems a lot smoother, just need to adjust the saturation a bit.
Nah man, That's just how Seattle is. Everything is desaturated. /s
@@Gatorade69 lol your right, it kinda is there.
Suprised you didn't mention Daigasso Band Brothers and the GBA song expansion slot they had!
Megaman Battle Network 5 DS had some of the most insane bonus modes with each of the GBA games from the same series (and BOKTAI!). In Megaman ZX you could fight Megaman Zero bosses if you had the GBA carts in as well.
Final Fantasy Tactics A2 used the GBA slot to unlock the Libra clan privilege when you started a new game if you had Final Fantasy Tactics Advance in the slot. Fun fact: It's Tactics Advanced 2 because it was originally supposed to be a GBA game before it got repurposed for the DS
Your pronunciation of "stop" in the NordVPN ad made my year.
Those "pokewalls" can't stop someone dedicated/crazy enough. Linkara has a video guide about trading up from Gen 1 quite a ways up beyond where was ever intended.
The only DS / GBA game extra I knew about, and found out by complete accident, was the bonus video when you plugged Warioware Touched! and Warioware Twisted together in the same DS. You got a music video of the Mona Pizza song. According to Wario it's "not even on the internet yet," though I don't know how true that is anymore.
I love how it is official Mega Man canon that the main character of the Boktai games somehow converted himself into data and entered the digital world just so he could kill someone's phone avatar that was vampire-themed.
Sidenote on that: Battle Network is a separate canon from the main (Classic/X/Zero/ZX/Legends) series. ...But yes, Django and Otenko are indeed quite canon in those games. They're...kinda one of the only good things about 4, come to think.
I love that in Megaman ZX you can unlock new boss fights and an entirely new transformation ability if you insert Megaman Zero 3 or 4 into the GBA slot.
I believe you don't need to use the GBA slot for that, but the only way you can unlock Model OX otherwise is by having a clear-game save, so it's not too terribly useful for actually finishing the game. It IS really cool, though.
The interconnectivity between Aria and Dawn of Sorrow isn't just that one doll in Yoko's shop; you also get an item called the Rare Ring, which increases rare item drops when you start a Dawn game with Aria inserted.
There was also a DS Lite-sized Rumble Pak available only in Japan, I imported one.
In the UK, the Memory Expansion Pak was bundled with the Web Browser and you had to be careful to get the correct size (Regular/Lite).
One of the best experiences I've ever had with a DS game is the combination of Space Invaders Extreme, the Rumble Pak and the Hori Nintendo DS Earphones. It is honestly one of the most underrated experiences.
Your new camera coupled with whatever color correction you did makes you look cold
I mean, he DOES live in Alaska, after all.
this guy invested in studio lighting to illuminate his fauxhawk and i can't even hate
You forgot completley about the secret hidden feature of putting Red Rescue Team in your GBA slot on the DS.
You have a 1 in 6 chance every time you start up any DS game while Red Rescue Team is in the GBA slot to completley erase the data on said DS game.
EDIT: Never mind, it's the other way around. Blue Rescue Team in the DS Slot affects GBA games. Whoops.
Woah I've never heard of that! I wonder what the heck causes it?
Fun Fact: There is a third-party GBA slot add-on which lets you play Famicom carts on your DS Lite, It's called the Familator Lite, and if you wanted to you could also get one of those adaptors and play NES games on it. Compact? No. Interesting? Yep.
The only GBA/DS interaction I ever had was with playing Knights in the Nightmare with GBA Yggdra Union in the slot. It gives you Yggdra as the tutorial teacher and unlocks the ability to get Pamela as a playable knight. Cool stuff.
Bro I've just finished watching all your videos all the way from Happy Video Game Nerd! awesome material! Always exited to see a new videos.
Battle Network 5 DS also has functionality with the older Battle Network games on GBA. If you have a Battle Network game slotted in, it will change the DS game's battle music based on which GBA game you have in.
And they're all REMIXED. Those remixes are outright legendary in my opinion. Even 4.5! And we didn't even get 4.5! But since the DS is region-free, if you import it, it'll probably still work!
I'm sure you'll be happy to know that I am finally getting your videos in my recommended! I'm super happy because up until here; I've had to search you every couple of days or so.
So when are you going to cover the double cartridge secrets for the MSX2?
Love the channel. Long time fan who has been binging lately. Love how Grace chimes in from off camera. Even when I'm not sold on the subject you pull me in with good energy and genuine goofiness. Y'all make a great team. Cheers from Nor Cal!!
Shout out from Anchorage - Happy New Years @SSFM Team. Happy 2020!
One of the cooler features of the GBA Pokemon game connectivity is exclusive Pokemon you can only get if you insert a GBA game while playing the DS game. For example, Magby can only show up in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl if you have Pokemon Leaf Green inserted. Platinum sort of remedies some of this necessity to own all 5 GBA games by having some of those rarer Pokemon show up more.
Ok I'm gonna be honest I'm half a bottle of rum and 3/4 of the way into a bottle of vodka right now and I'm struggling to understand you when you speak but something about your inflections and speech is very comforting to me
You missed a small GBA to DS game secret. If you install both Warioware Twisted and Warioware Touched into the same system and boot up Touched, you will be given a soundtrack of Mona pizza.
Don't forget that Phoenix Wright (the Japanese DS version) unlocks all of the cases when you put Gyakuken Saiban (GBA version) into it.
Linux on the DS could use the memory expansion too as far as I recall.
I absolutely love these videos. Thanks for your work man.
Another great video ^^ its refreshing to watch someone who has a clear, and very much real, passion in a hobby i have a passion in too.
Thanks a ton!
The Japanese versions of the first three Ace Attorney also have some gba slot compatibility. Basically if you plug in the GBA version of Phoenix Wright while playing Phoenix Wright on the DS you can unlock all cases so you won't have to replay the entire game to unlock all the cases (and the new fifth case)
I literally saw that exact Tony hawk game at a thrift store on Monday it was being sold for like $2 I would have gotten it if Mario 64 DS had not also been there.
So glad Boktai is getting more attention lately.
The Happy Video Game Nerd and Gnoggin teaming up
Heck yeah boktai! Good ol' boktai in the PNW. Choosing between sitting in the rain or getting a sun burn on the off weeks during the summer.
Could you talk about the Jet Set Radio GBA version if it fits into a video?
Also in Gen IV, you could also run into unusual Pokemon on many routes based on which Gen III game you had inserted
Boktai are my fav vampire games and my first time dealing with mister Kojima as I wasn't a big ps gamer. Yes you talked about battle net 5.
When I see a new stop skeletons video uploaded I have to stop what I'm doing and thumbs up and watch it :)
7:51 oh dude come on Pak is cool I had 6-Pak for Sega Genesis and it was Spelled like that too! Dude it's almost 2020 Time to be saying Pak!
Like you touched on, the GBA slot is needed for something interesting in the world of flash carts. Some cards from the DS era had to have a memory expansion connected to play GBA games from its microSD, and was sold with an aftermarket one for use. This one had 32MB on it, enough for any GBA program and supposedly worked with the browser too, but it looks dubious. The explanation I've found for this is that the DS cart interfacing from Slot-1 itself can't really do the interactions that occur between the hardware and the GBA slot normally. What resulted when trying to do so was very poor performance from GBA ROMs. So what they do is load the ROM into the memory pack, and play it from that.
I received such a card, a memory expansion, and the DS browser all at the same time for Christmas, and it was just confusing to me that there were two memory expansion cards. I didn't need either since the browser is crap and I had no GBA software to load on the card. I had to dig it out when I wanted to bring a Pokemon Emerald ROM tweaked with the physical/special split that occurred in generation IV (moves using either Sp. Atk or Atk were determined by type, afterward set per move allowing physical water-type attacks, for instance) and reusable TMs to original hardware.
Feel The Magic: XY-XX had costume items that were only unlockable by putting other SEGA GBA games in Slot 2.
Final Fantasy Tactics A2 also had some unlockables when the first game was placed in the GBA slot.
10:34 when i was 7 i always thought that the gba slot was for extra storage because i didn't know the game data was saved on the cartridge and i never thought it could play gba games, this makes me happy but also weirded out that this memory pak exists
Metroid Prime Hunters used the Rumble Pak as well and did it very well.
I have no idea where the whole biodiversity thing came from... I just remember it was a way to move Pokemon from Gen 3 games to Gen 4 after you had completed the main story and gained the National Pokedex. I think it was there both as some nice postgame (There's a lot of postgame in D/P/Pt), and to help with the whole "complete the national dex" thing. Lets you get all Kanto and Hoenn Pokemon, in addition to the Sinnoh dex you start with.
Oh, and in some areas, D/P/Pt will read what game is in slot 2 and allow you to *find* extra Pokemon in the wild in certain areas.
Actually inserting aria of sorrow while playing dawn of sorrow also automatically gives you a rare ring in your inventory.
You should test that Memory Pack with Space Invaders Extreme 2. The game slows down whenever you're in fever and more so in super fever. See if that lessens slowdown at all.
The crossover I didn't know I wanted, but now I want *more.*
"Megaman Battle Network - Who the hell keeps buying those?!" - A very smart person.
10:55 - lemme stop you right there. The full size memory expansion pack WAS available on store shelves, just not independently. Mine came with my copy of the DS Browser. I purchased the DS Browser at a GameStop.
To add to the Mega Man ZX GBA Slot Functionality, if you put Mega Man Zero 3 and 4 in the GBA Slot, you could fight some of the bosses from the game you inserted.
I remember the manual for the DS version of Justice League Heroes saying that inserting the GBA game Justice League Heroes: The Flash unlocked some new mini-games or something. I never tested it out, though.
Yay thanks for talking about Lunar Knights!
Great info. I didn't know over half of those "secrets".
Mega Man... XZ?
Also missed opportunity to talk about the connectivity Mega Man Star Force 1-3 have with the Battle Network games AND Lunar Knights!
I mean considering for the wealth of content BN5 DS has and he mentions exactly *one* feature in it (not even mentioning the actual BN cart bonus, only Boktai), it doesn't surprise me that didn't get mentioned.
For all that Pokemon time, I was expecting ShadowRock to pop up for a minute to go over a few things, but nope.
I think the only time I used the GBA slot was Final Fantasy Tactics A2, and if you started a game with FFTA in the GBA slot it gave you a clan ability that let's you see traps on every map
You forgot about megaman starforce! those games had roughly the same method of 5ds of getting bonus content.
There was also a feature in diamond, pearl and platinum where if you have any of the main line Pokemon games in the slot you can find Pokemon that mostly exclusive to that version.
I have that PS Move gun peripheral from the Nord ad. Any chance of a PS Move episode coming up?
You can get extra costumes in the game 'Project Rub' when you use it with any Sega GBA game in the GBA slot.