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Thanks Michael! It's been a long process (as you know haha), but I finally feel like I've reached the "endgame" setup for this room. But that mindset could change within the hour. You never know lol.
I love it!! But you know that. 😂 it's wild that this is the same room with white walls, a large window and gramma-looking curtains. That broll of the room before you did anything to it is bananas. I really like these new changes and it's been great being able to watch movies and even play some games in there. I don't want to go to the movies because what you've created looks and sounds so much better. Plus the snacks are cheaper and pants are optional. Hahahaha
The new setup looks pretty slick Brad - Great job! - I'm looking forward to a revised REW and MiniDSP (with 4 subs) tutorial - Lots of new features in REW in 3+ years. - Thanks - Cheers!
Thanks! And you aren't lying. There have been a TON of changes to REW over the past few years. I'll be finally shooting the tutorials this week and next week. Just in time for the holidays!
nice job!! besides equipment videos, if you could give us a rundown of games where you feel you've particularly benefited from the home theater setup, that would be great content. like an update on where dolby atmos was actually impactful, for example.
These new speakers seem to balance themselves far more perfectly into the room. Your old speakers always seemed to large in the setup and with the 4 SVS subs, having dedicated theatre style satellites in the M&K/THX tradition seems far better suited. Between the new speakers and the new racks for the gear this room makes me want to just jump through screen and hear it. Looks far better and done on a budget, nice work Brad! 👍
Thank you so much! The difference has been pretty drastic. I agree on the Pioneers I had (and still do, just in another room now haha). Wall-mounting the side and back surrounds really opened up the room as well. Everything just kind of came together once I had the idea, which... well doesn't always happen as you know. lol
I think it turned out great. It has cleaner/sleeker look. Good job. I had the same dilemma for my huge center channel, so I built my own stand so everything would fit. I was looking at 2 stands for each side like you, but I couldn't find a speaker stand the right height for my center channel.
You are doing exactly what I want to do. I was planning on making a move on this in the next month or two. I just gotta order the twin stands for the equipment. I am planning on placing a shorter tower as my center channel.
There are different rebranding of that open-air AV stand. Other brands offer a 5 tier option, which I'm using to hold my Revel C426be center channel speaker, 61lbs. Works perfect.
I know you said you want to see your stuff but… the best way to add space is to remove the gear. For me this was a no brainer as I have a small room with a projector, 120” screen. Roughly the same size space- a bit over 11 ft wide and around 13 ft deep although my space does partially open up to another space in the back. I have all my gear on an ikea cabinet in that space behind me. IR blaster. Single fiber hdmi running from my Denon to the projector. And of course speaker wire running in to power all my speakers. I absolutely LOVE not having anything up front. I have those same Pioneer speakers you started with and the entire space is black top to bottom. Amazing space to get lost in a movie.
I just got an RSL 12S and some CM23G speakers for new heights. Aaaand then I'm now going to replace the media console with two smaller tables to flank that giant subwoofer and let me move my mains in a little. Then I could use some more absorption/diffraction on the back wall....😂
@@HomeTheaterGamer Brad, I'm so happy for you! Those speakers look right at home. The way you setup the room is just the look I would like to have. You have made such good choices. I hope it sounds as big and bold and as clear as it looks. I'm sure Trish would happy to pinch you - a couple times.. hahaha
The right and left speakers have the mid and tweeter on the left side of the front baffle. Does it really matter? Or can we rotate just one speaker in a way that one have them to the right and the other to the left.
You can just turn the speakers so the tweeter and midrange fall on the left, right or top side. Then you can just turn the little logo whatever direction makes sense.
Awesome changes to the theater, the new speakers look sweet! Quick question about the upcoming tutorials, I want to dive into the mini-dsp but i have dirac live on my receiver. Am i able to still use dirac with mini dsp or is the mini dsp a substitute for dirac live? Thanks for helping me out!
Thanks and great question! You can definitely use Dirac Live on top of using the minDSP, you just have to be mindful of the EQ curve on both the miniDSP and Dirac Live. You essentially want them to match. For example, I actually use both the miniDSP to do the heavy, heavy EQ lifting and then will use Audyssey MultEQ-X on top of that to do the final small refinements here or there.
You're not imaging things haha! It's called Eyes & Ears and we have been trying to do it weekly, although we've been hit with a lot of scheduling conflicts. We do have a livestream tomorrow night at 7PM EST.
Potentially, but the stand would protrude out into the room which is something I didn't want. It might be difficult to see in the video, but the floor stand that the TV is mounted on has a slanted part on the front lip, so it's not a flat surface there, which means I would have to put the center channel in front of it. So it's a bit of a compromise and it is recessed by about 3 inches.
Setup def looks a lot nicer, good job! My question would be, in such a small room and with the speakers so close to the MPL, do you really need an external amp? and do you really need so many big subs? maybe you do I am just wondering. thanks
Those are great questions. I wasn’t sure a separate amp would even make a difference and I had never experienced having one in my own home theater as my receivers prior to the Denon X6300H didn’t have pre-outs. When I hooked it up initially, I used my Pioneer Andrew Jones speakers for a few weeks prior to the arrival of the Theatrus speakers. It was honestly like I got new speakers. I’m not even kidding. The improvements in dynamics even at lower volumes was noticeable. Things also opened up the louder I brought the volume up. I have read that the Pioneer speakers do benefit from more power, and I can attest to that now. As for the subs, having four in this small room is probably overkill, but it also gives me a ton of headroom for EQ mainly. I don’t really like “goosed up bass” (a term I learned from Gene DellaSalla from Audioholics haha). The bass experience post calibration though can be very tactile depending on the movie, and having done tests back and forth with two versus four subs, that tactility is just missing with the two PB4000s.
Did you keep the Aperion speakers? If so, did you have to pay for them or were they simply a gift for a review? The room is looking great by the way. I love these reviews that tend to be more on the budget side where people are simply not throwing money at a problem. If you did keep the new speakers, what did you do with the old ones? Put them in a second room, sell them, gift them? When are you going to be on the complete waste of time podcast again?
I've been in this hobby over 20 years, and a lot of the things I've purchased have been on sale of bought used (my Denon X6300H was purchased from a friend for $500, a far cry from what it cost new in 2016 which was about $2,000). I've always been a proponent of "make the most out of what you have," so I spend a lot of time tweaking and calibrating to get the most out of the stuff I currently have. Being a content creator here on TH-cam has advantages, but I never hide the fact when a company sends me something, as I mention in this video that Aperion Audio provided the amplifier and all speakers to me, so I didn't pay for those. I love the system I have in its current form, but it's a long way from when I first started this hobby.
Hey everyone! Aperion Audio are currently running a pretty awesome Black Friday special that will automatically give you a discount based on how much you're purchasing! Please consider using my affiliate link if you're thinking about purchasing something*: bit.ly/3j96LyE. Further sale details below:
Aperion Audio Black Friday Sale (ends 11/30/2024):
Spend $500 - Get 5% off
Spend $1000 - Get 10% off
Spend $1500 - Get 15% off
Spend $2000 - Get 20% off
Spend $3000 - Get 25% off
_*Disclaimer: as part of Aperion Audio's affiliate program, I earn from qualifying purchases made through my affiliate link._
Man your room looks sick! Awesome job on the upgrades. Love the clean install of your wiring. The Aperion speakers look sweet too.
Thanks Michael! It's been a long process (as you know haha), but I finally feel like I've reached the "endgame" setup for this room. But that mindset could change within the hour. You never know lol.
Wow! That is a big difference. Looks amazing. Looking forward to the new reviews.
Thank you so much! The difference is pretty amazing.
Looks awesome
I have that stand for my receiver/amp and I love it! You’re setup looks awesome 👍
I love it!! But you know that. 😂 it's wild that this is the same room with white walls, a large window and gramma-looking curtains. That broll of the room before you did anything to it is bananas. I really like these new changes and it's been great being able to watch movies and even play some games in there. I don't want to go to the movies because what you've created looks and sounds so much better. Plus the snacks are cheaper and pants are optional. Hahahaha
That Theatrus front soundstage with the new stands and RGB lighting looks SEXY! 🎉
And it sounds AMAZING!
New theatre looks good Brad, nice job 👌
Thanks 👍
The new setup looks pretty slick Brad - Great job! - I'm looking forward to a revised REW and MiniDSP (with 4 subs) tutorial - Lots of new features in REW in 3+ years. - Thanks - Cheers!
Thanks! And you aren't lying. There have been a TON of changes to REW over the past few years. I'll be finally shooting the tutorials this week and next week. Just in time for the holidays!
@@HomeTheaterGamer Thanks Brad - I'll be watching!
nice job!! besides equipment videos, if you could give us a rundown of games where you feel you've particularly benefited from the home theater setup, that would be great content. like an update on where dolby atmos was actually impactful, for example.
That's a great idea for a video! I'll add it to the list!
Wow, I love the new layout!
Thanks Jeffrey!
These new speakers seem to balance themselves far more perfectly into the room.
Your old speakers always seemed to large in the setup and with the 4 SVS subs, having dedicated theatre style satellites in the M&K/THX tradition seems far better suited. Between the new speakers and the new racks for the gear this room makes me want to just jump through screen and hear it. Looks far better and done on a budget, nice work Brad! 👍
Thank you so much! The difference has been pretty drastic. I agree on the Pioneers I had (and still do, just in another room now haha). Wall-mounting the side and back surrounds really opened up the room as well. Everything just kind of came together once I had the idea, which... well doesn't always happen as you know. lol
Looks stunning.
I think it turned out great. It has cleaner/sleeker look. Good job. I had the same dilemma for my huge center channel, so I built my own stand so everything would fit. I was looking at 2 stands for each side like you, but I couldn't find a speaker stand the right height for my center channel.
Thank you! It feels almost like a different room than what I started with!
Man, thats a killer upgrade right there!
Thank you!
You are doing exactly what I want to do. I was planning on making a move on this in the next month or two. I just gotta order the twin stands for the equipment. I am planning on placing a shorter tower as my center channel.
Looks awesome!
Thanks!
This looks outstanding!
Thank you for the kind words!
Very nice Brad 👍
Thank you so much!
thats a clean look.i live in a apartment and that tv stand is a great idea . please share where you got it and thank you
There are different rebranding of that open-air AV stand. Other brands offer a 5 tier option, which I'm using to hold my Revel C426be center channel speaker, 61lbs. Works perfect.
nice valencia chairs
Thanks! I really love having them. I'm planning on doing an updated review since I've had them since middle of 2022.
Looks badass brother 👍
Thank you and thanks for watching! 👍
I know you said you want to see your stuff but… the best way to add space is to remove the gear. For me this was a no brainer as I have a small room with a projector, 120” screen. Roughly the same size space- a bit over 11 ft wide and around 13 ft deep although my space does partially open up to another space in the back. I have all my gear on an ikea cabinet in that space behind me. IR blaster. Single fiber hdmi running from my Denon to the projector. And of course speaker wire running in to power all my speakers. I absolutely LOVE not having anything up front. I have those same Pioneer speakers you started with and the entire space is black top to bottom. Amazing space to get lost in a movie.
If you've got the space that's great. We don't in the current house we're in.
Looks great. Have you thought about doing an updated mini dsp video with the new interface and your four subs?
Thanks! And yep, it's been in the works for a while. It's finally happening soon though!
I just got an RSL 12S and some CM23G speakers for new heights. Aaaand then I'm now going to replace the media console with two smaller tables to flank that giant subwoofer and let me move my mains in a little. Then I could use some more absorption/diffraction on the back wall....😂
I can just hear the Neverending Story song playing now haha.
Don’t know this speaker brand , how do you like them ? , what did you have before? Any plans for a bigger tv ?
They look kinda nice.
I kinda agree. (Kidding, I've grown to love how they look and don't think I want to ever go back to traditional looking speakers again haha)
Cool
Thanks!
Brad! That's AWESOME. Where is the donation jar for viewing time? I'm in! Sign me up.
Thanks Kevin! I'm truly in awe of just how everything looks and sounds. Can't believe where my theater is currently at. Somebody pinch me!
@@HomeTheaterGamer Brad, I'm so happy for you! Those speakers look right at home. The way you setup the room is just the look I would like to have. You have made such good choices. I hope it sounds as big and bold and as clear as it looks. I'm sure Trish would happy to pinch you - a couple times.. hahaha
Looks awesome! What did you end up doing with the Pioneer speakers?
Thanks Joel! I still have them, although they are currently just chilling in a different room not hooked up.
The right and left speakers have the mid and tweeter on the left side of the front baffle. Does it really matter? Or can we rotate just one speaker in a way that one have them to the right and the other to the left.
You can just turn the speakers so the tweeter and midrange fall on the left, right or top side. Then you can just turn the little logo whatever direction makes sense.
now you just need a mini dsp hd for each speaker,lol, jk looks great!
Awesome changes to the theater, the new speakers look sweet!
Quick question about the upcoming tutorials, I want to dive into the mini-dsp but i have dirac live on my receiver. Am i able to still use dirac with mini dsp or is the mini dsp a substitute for dirac live? Thanks for helping me out!
Thanks and great question! You can definitely use Dirac Live on top of using the minDSP, you just have to be mindful of the EQ curve on both the miniDSP and Dirac Live. You essentially want them to match.
For example, I actually use both the miniDSP to do the heavy, heavy EQ lifting and then will use Audyssey MultEQ-X on top of that to do the final small refinements here or there.
@ that is awesome to hear, can’t wait to give it a shot and looking forward to more of the eyes and ears podcast!
I could be imagining it but were you doing a team up/partnership with Elan Osborn? Did that fizzzle thru? Or am I remembering incorrectly
You're not imaging things haha! It's called Eyes & Ears and we have been trying to do it weekly, although we've been hit with a lot of scheduling conflicts. We do have a livestream tomorrow night at 7PM EST.
Won't the center channel sound better if it's moved forward so the front of the speaker is inline with the AV stands? Looks a bit recessed to me.
Potentially, but the stand would protrude out into the room which is something I didn't want. It might be difficult to see in the video, but the floor stand that the TV is mounted on has a slanted part on the front lip, so it's not a flat surface there, which means I would have to put the center channel in front of it.
So it's a bit of a compromise and it is recessed by about 3 inches.
Wow
Thanks for watching!
Setup def looks a lot nicer, good job! My question would be, in such a small room and with the speakers so close to the MPL, do you really need an external amp? and do you really need so many big subs? maybe you do I am just wondering. thanks
Those are great questions. I wasn’t sure a separate amp would even make a difference and I had never experienced having one in my own home theater as my receivers prior to the Denon X6300H didn’t have pre-outs.
When I hooked it up initially, I used my Pioneer Andrew Jones speakers for a few weeks prior to the arrival of the Theatrus speakers. It was honestly like I got new speakers. I’m not even kidding. The improvements in dynamics even at lower volumes was noticeable. Things also opened up the louder I brought the volume up. I have read that the Pioneer speakers do benefit from more power, and I can attest to that now.
As for the subs, having four in this small room is probably overkill, but it also gives me a ton of headroom for EQ mainly. I don’t really like “goosed up bass” (a term I learned from Gene DellaSalla from Audioholics haha). The bass experience post calibration though can be very tactile depending on the movie, and having done tests back and forth with two versus four subs, that tactility is just missing with the two PB4000s.
@ great, many thanks for the insight! I have been conteplating about an external amp my self and appreciate the feedback!
PB 4000 review soon ?
Absolutely. It's long overdue but I'm excited to share my thoughts on them!
Can you connect me with one of these audio companies? I need some high-end audio, and I'd be okay promoting the product if I like it
Sure man! Send me an email (brad@hometheatergamer.com) and we can figure out who I can put you in can’t much with!
@@HomeTheaterGamer Thanks! I sent you an email
Did you keep the Aperion speakers? If so, did you have to pay for them or were they simply a gift for a review? The room is looking great by the way. I love these reviews that tend to be more on the budget side where people are simply not throwing money at a problem. If you did keep the new speakers, what did you do with the old ones? Put them in a second room, sell them, gift them? When are you going to be on the complete waste of time podcast again?
How do afford this hobby?
I've been in this hobby over 20 years, and a lot of the things I've purchased have been on sale of bought used (my Denon X6300H was purchased from a friend for $500, a far cry from what it cost new in 2016 which was about $2,000). I've always been a proponent of "make the most out of what you have," so I spend a lot of time tweaking and calibrating to get the most out of the stuff I currently have.
Being a content creator here on TH-cam has advantages, but I never hide the fact when a company sends me something, as I mention in this video that Aperion Audio provided the amplifier and all speakers to me, so I didn't pay for those. I love the system I have in its current form, but it's a long way from when I first started this hobby.