My exsperiance with his channel I have watched about a dozen his videos. Is he is very humble about his skills not being magic and anyone can do what he does as he repeats often . And he builds boxes for all brands and says repeatedly any sub can sound good not just the big brands . Ya he sometimes says something's off the mark. But over all a good channel. Just my opinion . And also I appreciate your honest reviews too.
I don't get why smaller channels wouldn't want to help one another rather than hinder. This could have been an awesome collaboration in the future. Instead I'm just reading comments on a video of a creator I'm no longer subbed to anymore 🙃
He's doing something right if he's got that many subscribers. My agenda is to make high end equipment a utility. Super affordable and nobody even thinks about it anymore because they have what would be equal to $10k in a car that comes with that from the factory... Like a Tesla.
Critiquing really, by attacking MBE’s character as a man, a father, husband, and his TH-cam channel by saying he has a learning disability. If he has a learning disability then please explain following; MBE enclosures TH-cam channel Joined Nov 9, 2011 2,192,842 views 15k subscribers RobotUnderground TH-cam channel Joined Aug 19, 2006 1,339,642 views 5.33k subscribers RobotUnderground, or any of his loyal followers please explain the above. We are waiting on a answer.
I Personally drove 9 hours to pick up my box in ATL from MBE. All I gotta say is wow when I heard mbe's truck. I've been in SPL builds and SQ builds almost everything and I have to say his was still impressive for only 2 8s. I LOVE my MBE box.
That just tells me you don't know anyone in your area. There are lots of cabinet makers that can do the same or better work for the same, or better pricing and even cut it on a CNC if you have the drawing.
@@RobotUnderground I know plenty. I started building my own now. I went to MBE because he is a honest man and show us the bass game how it should be played. I could have got any guy to make it here but I wanted to support him as well.
@@mrPelon863 same story with me. Live in ky .. I actually called a guy from Louisville and box was gonna be like 800/2k. Plexiglass, light show blah blah.. any actual custom box will be high.. so will MB
Maan this is crazy 🤪, this dude is envious of MB, watched another vid and was talking down on another guy. Won't be back ever again. Tiny penis problems
You obviously have never watched any of his videos besides this one. He loves ALL subwoofers, not just JL or Kicker. Learning disability? You're drawing a conclusion over misinformation, which is what you are bashing him for. Grow up and stop trying to push your recoil garbage on everyone. How could I forget about Jiz Llama, that name suits your personality perfectly.
Have you purchased or listened to the recoil stuff? Or are you guilty of exactly what this guy is trying to point out? I bought 2 sets of the component 6"s before i found this channel., i personally love them.. but what do i know.. i've only been doing car audio since 1989
He regularly gets 140s on almost any 8. With 1500 watts.. mid 40s on tens.. the guy can build boxes.. and that's what he promotes.. his boxes! Now.. if you wanna critique his boxes , buy one . Then critique him.
@@jimbobdobbs1597 You have a good point Jim, I may have been a bit harsh. I have a pair of recoil tweeter, but nothing else. They are ok, just more of the same rebranded crap everyone else does. I get it, it's more of a budget brand and something you would put in a vehicle you don't really care about. I do in fact have ears though and most of the recoil stuff I have heard, is awful. The quality is mainly due to poor crossover circuitry and it's VERY hard for me to think someone is purchasing these to go active on a dsp. Recoil was just a casualty here, but I stand by my statement.
@@RobotUnderground I'm a lover of home/car audio. Real life issues occur everyday. When it comes to a hobby, I'm on straight positivity and this is not it. Don't feel attacked, I have love for everyone. As an adult, identify people for what they are and handle them accordingly. Different people, play different roles; prostitutes, police, doctors, engineers, fast food workers... It is, what it is. My comment is an interaction, in support of you. When I really don't like content, I don't take the time to comment.
@@derricknorman1138 Then start your own channel bud. Someone asked me to look into this guy and this is what I found. If you think it's negative, stay away. I think it's a positive way to reel in a guy like this that is out of control. I'm sure you feel the same way about me. That's fine.. Say it on your own channel.
Seems obvious to me that this guy is sharing real world experience, and you are reading from a manual. No misinformation spread. Actual results. Miss-spoken words and bad comparisons aside.
Seems to me you b**** and complain more than anything if I want to hear people belittling people and using profanity that's unprofessional I just watch the news. all that you talk you do the exact same thing you know better.
Agh c'mon man.. it's MBE. he's a great box builder. Very nice guy as well. He actually will tell you he doesn't prefer and will not suggest any woofer.. he's also not a idiot bro. He started off in the 90s and was sent to acoustic schooling by rockford and other companies back in the day. Not that it makes him a genius.. but he's a good dude. Infact I think hes even mentioned you as a great builder before..
Are you kidding 50% of his videos are him pimping Q-class L7,,, I can tell you I don't care what a woman looks like,,, but everytime I fat but walks by I'm staring at it, ,, he is lying
@@FrankStPeter he is high on them.. I think it's just simply the cone area thing.. its the whole " my 8s sound like 10s" thing.. which I agree dollar for dollar can be beat..
@@matthewguynn3652 Sure cone area is king but Dollar for dollar you could buy a 12 inch sub for quite a bit less than that kicker square 10” so don’t really understand the value in that at all...but to each their own.
I got a box from him also, And I must say the best sounding box I ever owned. I don't know what your talking about and half the time don't know what he's talking about but his work is very good I must say and I'm very happy with the product. Bottom line MBE for life.
Ok before I start the video- he seems to know how to build boxes but can’t even name parts of a woofer. He does give great advice that beginners should follow. He likes his 8 inch woofers he puts in his truck. But he has fun and I like that he tells people that shops will just take your money even if they know there selling you stuff you can’t power and or won’t work right for the space you have and overcharge everybody
@@RobotUnderground I hear ya. To me it’s funny how he’s good at building boxes but doesn’t understand woofers THAT well at all. I can build boxes but I’m also learning about woofers,seems he’s happy just knowing about enclosures but he makes money doing so so ya why should he need to know more.... unless he wants to make even mo money mo money mo money!
It's amusing how people can hide behind the internet and voice their opinion. You seem like an intelligent guy that is butthurt because he didn't get his knees dirty and the industry passed him buy and now your gonna stick it to "The Man". This is a hobby that we all decided to take up because it is "FUN". I know your trying to open people's eyes and get them better deals but you don't have to go around bashing people. Do what your good at educate so people can make their own informative decisions. Don't attack some guy who builds boxes in a garage because he likes some National brand. You sound like the kid who's Mom bought him the imitation cereal because that's what they could afford and talked trash about the name brand to make himself feel better.
That's so funny you say that,,, that's the same thing I told MBE,,, I told him to stick to what he knows about like building boxes,,, not telling people about how well design kicker subwoofers are,,, they're junk.... Look up the definition of humble and that is not MBE,,, the point that Pat was making is he tells half-truths,,, I figured out the other day he was full of s*** with the black brick 8 you can get boss eights with the same TS parameters and xmaxx he's a Salesman whether you want to hear it or not
He is doing what he does on literally everyone of his videos. Being stark honest. And he is doing the audio scene a justice by shining light on content creators that may or may not know what they’re talking about, providing everyone with another view point. But that’s exactly what it is, just a different view point, take it as you will, or don’t... you did more bashing and shit talking in your paragraph of a comment than Patrick did in this whole video....
Okay my friend I see you're super intelligent and you know what you're talkin about,,, kicker is the best and so is MBE,,, I will say this a point of view is a point of view facts are facts,,, he says he's unbiased and he clearly is towards kicker,,, second fact if a Kicker sub fails the only people who can put it back to its original state is kicker or it is junk,,,
You would have given your critique of MBE a great deal more credibility, if even one second, you had actually met with and talked with the guy. He’s not a proponent of any particular subwoofer, he instead tells you he can make any decently built subwoofer sound better. While he appreciates SQL, he makes enclosures to specs of the subwoofer the customer has bought. He does like SPL subwoofers but will and has worked with any number of 8” subwoofers, from varying manufacturers. He also tells you he has no specific brand loyalty, other than to test all 8” subwoofers anyone is willing to send him or that he can buy. Your comment of throwing shade of “a learning disability “ is about as low as any grown man can stoop to trying to insult another…..without you ever actually having met the guy. He talks in common kitchen table language because it’s not necessary to be so extremely technical with all of his customers….when all his customers are “ bassheads “ looking for the deep boom. You could learn a thing or two about humility yourself and learn to take it down a notch. What I heard when you said “ your standards were high quality “ is a guy who is about as anal as they come. There will always be one technician, who based on his own opinions, believes he’s better and more qualified than the next…without actually meeting the other technicians in question.
You know, after watching this video and you spoke on sub boxes being over built for subs, is making so much sense, that I had to go redesign my sub box. Thank you and appreciate you!
You both are among my favorite audio guys. I can personally attest he went out of his way so that I could commission a box from him. Please give his content a further look bro.. yes he personally likes kicker.. but he doesn't make anything from them.. I mean it's your channel bro.. say what u want.. but as a fan of both, don't be that guy man!
@@RobotUnderground I understand bro.. guess I'm just a fan of someone in car audio for years .. has a channel and a dream and started in his garage .. interacts with his fans and offers a service.. which he doesn't hold a gun at anyone to use... Sound familiar? He also exposes the prefab industry on the boxes.. most claim to be a Hz they aren't. was more hopeful you could find something more in common with him. But again it's your channel bro... I still support ya
@@UncPluck1374 He can favor it all he wants but the "extra" cone area doesn't mean shit when it's 2x the price. Also, the other way to get more displacement is with excursion. Kicker subs don't handle what they advertise. Their amps are great, (still over priced), but the subs don't handle what they advertise. Usually if you read the fine print it's not a power handling number. It says, "Maximum recommended amplifier".
MB builds high efficiency subwoofer enclosures that are renowned in Atlanta area. Highly efficient sub boxes are designed to maximize bass output, simple as that. MB boxes are prized in the most influential music city in America today, says a whole lot
Which anyone with a saw can do. He's not special.... Well, short bus kind of special anyway. Just because an enclosure or subwoofer for that matter is "high efficiency", doesn't mean it's right for all applications. He just makes oversized enclosures that compromise power handing. Like a 12" sub in a 3cf box. That's way too big but it'll be loud.... At what expense?? Space and power handling. That's what the compromise is... And you don't need him to make you the enclosure. You can steal some voting / campaign signs and make skateboard ramps and sub enclosures like I did.
@@RobotUnderground jealousy isn't gonna get you his views nor followers, on some man shit, you could grow your brand by collaboration instead of hate for others In the same field. I like audio in many forms but negative comments about cool ppl in zero form. Maybe you have the courage to take that personal journey called growing up, but it's all on you. You're the one miserable
Def right, simple! Putting large boxes on any sub increases efficiency but it affects the sound which is why having the appropriate box volume is better for that particular sub is best.
I got my first loud speaker cook when I was 16, I got another 10 years ago. It’s marked up and dog eared. I recommend it to tons of people and I know, not one of them has bought one. 🤷🏻♂️
When are you gonna critique yourself? Let you tell it the entire audio industry should bow to you, Fosgate butt hurt you so bad you have to bash EVERYTHING & EVERYONE ???
It's in every video if you care to observe. I care about getting the highest performance for the lowest price. That's value. Then I want to empower you the user, to do the same and even make a living at it. NOBODY is doing this. This should set the bench mark for others. But if you don't see that, you're projecting your own feelings onto my videos. I wish you the best.
I think it’s hilarious how you use brand names and people that are More popular than you to get views I love watching you hate on people it cracks me up
It's called word spamming and I was quite hated on eBay for doing it. The problem is that those brands exist and I want people to see that those brands ain't shit. So the best way is to bait them in and show them something different or a variation on something or as I use many times, "This is an alternative to....." I did that with some amps last year that were only $300 each shipped. Had all the connections near the same positions on the amp as the JL 1000/1 but was 1 ohm stable and fused for 160A, so more power than that same amp.. Plus it was smaller too, like the size of the 500/1 and was about the same price as a used 500/1. I thought it was a good alternative. We want to import them but the factory only makes them in silver and rose gold / copper color. We want black and then put a white Jizz Llama logo on them. Then back them with 100%QC and 3yr warranty.
I think the biggest problem is that companies are not setting correct expectations on products. Marketing pushes product and makes people believe they will achieve more than reality. In audio, it causes customers to think they did something wrong. Before finding out, they turn to spending more money on different enclosures, amps, etc. They never connect what they want to the reality of what they need to achieve it. It amazes me how someone thinks a sub should perform better, so they blame the box, it doesn't change as much as they wanted, so they overpower or clip the hell out of it, blow it up and throw everything out blaming the products.
Well, that's why I started Robot. I want people to find the best deals for the least amount and even learn to turn this skill into something they can support their family with.
Everything this guy is saying could be true but from my point of view this guy is hating on MBE's success. MBE makes a great product and all he has to say negative things about it If you ain't got nothing nice to say then don't say nothing. Talking down on someone's business is the same as taking food from there family. Can't stand this type of rhetoric. Build your brand on your own without bringing others down. And if you want to talk ish about others work then at least don't mention the company just voice your opinion without name dropping. I could understand if MBE was ripping people off and you wanted to inform others to stay away but your only talking about the cons of what he does. He already knows that power handling is the sacrifice of his box builds he's said it plenty of times. He also is not big on power hungry subs anyway. He likes to make the under dog out due the big dog. Your business will go nowhere being a bully of your trade.
lol. I think he charges too much but it's typical for a guy that hand builds them. I prefer CNC made glue and screw boxes over a guy like MB. Thank you for your opinion. I hope you build your own brand some day. The idea of the video was just to show how dumb and basic he is. That's all. He's not special in any way. This opinion is based on my market experience all over the country and doing this full time for 19 years now. It's not personal, just an observation of mine.
I’m a dealer and I still have a passion for this industry I would love a engineering degree so that I don’t buy into miss information but taking out your hate on the missinformed is harsh. We all want to make money. JL for a big box brand just sounds good in just about every enclosure. JL is a great brand. I do see your point on the BL and I appreciate the knowledge but man you’re angry lol
lol. This ain't even angry. This guy is either dumb or selling hooch. If you do want to learn something in this industry, get a thicker skin and help people get a better deal.
I’ve been doing it for 20 years I don’t mind helping people who need a deal but I will admit after the 20 year manufacturing race to zero profit we saw I also don’t hate a profit either. But I can understand the idea that a woofer is a woofer. There is no unicorn juice or fairy dust that makes it that much different.
@@AudioGuru09 The same with boxes. If you know CAD, that just saves you some fees from the woodshop. It's the designs that are valuable. The execution can be done by day labor, it's not hard. Especially, when you're making 20-30 boxes at a time which is what I do now. I make the design, the woodshop has the CNC and does all the cute cutting and stuff. Then I have another guy glue and screw them together... Then I make carpet optional for the DIY guy or if someone just wants to save money.
@RobotUnderground I believe you both are partially correct. 1) shouldn't hate on the guy for trying to make a buck. The TRUTH is that most people don't care. They'd rather pay money to get something to not have to spend the time to research and make it themselves. If they're content with that, then so be it. Not everyone knows CAD or has the time to earn a degree (life choices, I know...) 2) I fully agree with Robot for stating the obvious add I feel this has to do more with what we're being spoon fed on a daily basis. TRUTH is that we're pretty stupid as a society and getting dumber by the second. I appreciate any or all knowledge given to me period, whether u pay for it or not. Besides the obvious discontent here, we can only really blame ourselves. All of that being said, I pride myself in searching out facts. I feel we are all looking for answers in one way or another. We should all try to help each other out, because I guarantee you "the man" isn't going to help us. They're only looking to bend us over.... without lube!
He’s a nice guy and makes solid boxes. What I can say he does best is that he won’t build boxes for people trying to put way more sub then they have space for. He understands you can’t get loud shoving two 18s in small box in a trunk 😂
One Grown man calling another man a prostitute is super disrespectful this is what wrong with the world today no one puts people in there place Im unsubscribing cause this is childish he is acting like a little girl I bet he would not say that to MBE face to face
He builds some shit enclosures. I had a buddy buy one for his truck and it looked like a first timer did it. I told him to send it back but he didn't want to go through the hassle.
1st off I'm subscribed to you and MBE. So I'm not a groupie of this channel vs that channel. I don't know how many of his videos you have watched to form your opinion of him and the work he does. Being that you build speakers and he does boxes how about you two meet and checkout each others products and actually talk about your thought process while you're doing it. But I don't think its fair to judge another professional unless you actually know them or you have keep fixing their products do to poor workmanship. As soon as this video was finished uploading i bet you got all kinds of people bashing MBE's prices who didn't buy a thing to form an opinion of the actual work he did for them. How many people are on here mad at the speaker he sold them? He doesn't sell them. All I'm saying is you sound corny bashing this guy who hasn't mentioned you not one time. And the other fanboys on here who haven't spent a dollar with the man to even rate his work. A speaker guy and a box guy could possibly get together and develop the next greatest thing but instead of checking his actual work you bash him based on a couple of videos. Even going so far as to down his intelligence. Not cool dude
Not bashing. It's called a critique. I think there's some things he can change and address. It's just my observations. I mastered what he does when I was in my 20's. It's not hard. I've moved on to other things and as I shared last night... I don't mind if the whole industry takes a dirt nap. All of this stuff is WAY OVERPRICED. I haven't even looked at his pricing. I was making my critique based on his salesman talk. It was bullshit and I won't let it slide. A user kept bugging me to check this guy out and I did. I reported to all of you about my findings. If you disagree, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
@@blakebrockhaus347 those was his words. I was kind of pissed off at his critique because you made it sound like that yours was absolute and that his was all f***** up. He even states that he doesn't know everything about car audio . Just cuz people don't think like other people they want to bash each other
@@215sinakia7 I agree his work is wonderful. A little misleading on the design and some other aspects but the price is mostly what gets me and then also the game that he plays about being the hot chick and justifying his high price. I don't see Gately spouting such bullshit and he's still charges high prices but his quality is really good and nobody else is offering anything near that for anything cheaper. So he has the market and I respect that.
He’s an MB fan himself! I can imagine how he gets ready for bed at night. His chants and rants goes something like this, “I wish I was MB” “I wish i had his following” “I wish everybody loved me like they love him” “I’m a loser” “Fuck MB” “I love MB” “Where’s my meth”
Apparently he builds a pretty decent box according to himself lol. Quoted me $650 on a box for a single budget sub not including shipping... I don’t really have the time to build it which is the only reason I asked for a quote but I guess I’ll make the time for that kind of money lol.
I was wondering what his prices were, 650$ for a single ported sub? wth, might as well go gately boxes at that price. what a rip off. boxes are simple and easy to build with just a lil software anybody can do it. dude is straight stealing at those prices.
@@troydefond2307 that was a box quote for a CT sounds Tropo 18” in birch I presume. I also got a quote before that for a single NEP select 12” quoted 500 shipped. Both budget subs w stamped baskets and modest power handling. I asked about a few questions/recommendations when I contacted him both times and just got a short reply w the price and nothing regarding my questions/concerns. Needless to say I did not go ahead with either box...
wow, that's definitely a joke. and he uses home depot pine, says it's all the same and never mentions a thing about wood having voids and what not in his videos. to be short with answers ona box costing that match would definitely make me go elsewhere.
My box was 550 shiped for 2 American bass hawk 10s. I'm a couple states away.. pricey yes.. and he was definitely short with me as well.. and I think he needs to work on that.. the issue is probably people msg and calling without plans actually purchasing .. I can imagine he gets that alot.. I called another builder in Louisville and he was 1100$ and a used d4s custom box not even for my subs was online for 500.. so I did go with MB..
If you don't mind a critique yourself, I'd like to say the battery is not the source of power, It can not produce power, only stores it. The alternator is the source of power. Now I agree do not run your power off the fuse box supply stud!
The batteries are the source of power when your finished playing with your little boom box kid .. reason being compare the cost... I can purchase quadruple the power in reserve compared to the cost of multiple high output alternators... hahaha have you ever seen a four pump hydraulic suspension run off alternators hahahaha your listening to the big dogs here
@@fuckgoogleandyou8779 you are not very smart are you? Your 4 pump set up charges itself huh? Don't open your mouth of what you don't know about! Batteries store power it does not produce power. Nice try though.
@@thebotlobbydaily I beg to differ. However at the same time you're not wrong technically but half right. Takes power to make power.... But as far as producing electric goes, I'm going with what generates it
I really like the recoil RW8. They're only like $36 each shipped and they play to 30 Hertz. Text me direct when you're ready to try a pair 602-312-6504 just let me know your name and your shipping address and what equipment you'll be using
He might have said that part wrong but definitely looked at some more videos because he really explains everything that you're saying he also talks about you can put it in the overlarge enclosure but you know but you have to know what you're giving up and what you're gaining and what you're losing
Mb enclosure works for the client that has already tried a shitty prefab box, and sees a huge jump in output with the same amp and subs just in a different box, just more volume and lower tuned... It definitely works. But. As soon as you start running real power then running an enclosure to spec is more of a requirement
Yeah you sound like hating sir.... MBE is a very honest person and will tell you the truth about boxes and subs.....he builds some very good boxes and they sound good!!! His channel is very organic. Why would you even make a video about another man's channel/video? If you don't have anything good to say don't say it and stay in your lane.... do you
If Myron knew what he was talking about, he wouldn't be getting clowned every time that "paperclip" motor strength meme comes up. Jacob Fuller at sundown clowns him alot about that. Myron can build enclosures. Myron doesn't know s*** about subwoofer building at all.
Mr. R.U.. Can you do a video about box building software comparison. The reason why I'm asking this, is because I have use the ohm law on calculating cubic feet. And I have done a comparison with other manufacturers box cubic feet and I find the manufacturing numbers are way off.
Well I'm at the point now where I can calc it out in my head pretty easy. The best and most simple software is Blaubox. You can find versions of it with the screen save option disabled and you can run it in a Chrome based DOS emulator. The formulas they used back in the 90's are accurate. You can compare A / B enclosures or drivers. It also makes an optimized offer / recommendation. For building enclosures, I use the RE Audio box calculator which is Adobe Flash based which you can download and run on your PC.
Quick question, if you don't mind. You said you don't wanna make your enclosure bigger than the VAS of your woofer. I've never been told that before, so I instantly looked up the specs on my RS Platinum 12, VAS is 27.1L which is 0.96cuft. That doesn't seem right haha. Love your videos man, finally someone in car audio that isn't about just taking your money, real knowledge. Helping other bassheads, how it used to be. PS. Might want some old Elemental Designs E10a.22's rebuilt soon if you would be interested.
The VAS is the size of the box got the subwoofer needs in order to reach the FS. Play around with the specs and when ISD and find the good balance that you enjoy. Most people on that subwoofer will find joy at about 1.75 cubic feet at about 33 to 34 Hz
@@RobotUnderground awesome, really appreciate that. I went big originally, 3.0 @ 30hz, it completely smashes the lows but does not like anything above about 34hz. Can I ask how I could get with you about the Elementals? I've saved them for well over 10yrs now lol wanted to originally learn how to rebuild myself, but now have 2 kids lol I really do appreciate your time & help man
Dude, I follow you both and I think you were VERY rough on MBE... I appreciate the more "professional" industry realities you share but shitting on MBE (a small fish in the car audio world) was off-putting. I mean, saying the guy has a "learning disability" was disappointing. I think MBE has a lot of good info... yes, a lot is communicated in layman's terms and not 1,000% correct but it's probably best for most of his viewers who do this as a hobby. I've seen a lot of his vids and haven't felt like he's pushing Kicker as "THE BEST".
to elaborate a lil' bit more, I think you're right about all the shady aspects from companies in this industry which rip people off, including shops... I don't think it applies to MBE. He may not know as much as you do but he seems to know enough to make good boxes for a target market. Just my opinion to you opinions haha
Call it how you see it. I enjoy both channels also but we have to keep it real with each other also it can only help if you take it for what it’s worth. Make lemonade!
The Loudspeaker cookbook you ste talking about. Do you have a n author or picture of the book? I looked up Loudspeaker cookbook and a thousand bullshit books showed up. Any help would be appreciated.
He’s arguably climbing in the top 5 when it comes to car audio on this platform that’s just facts Steve Meade is the goat he runs the car audio lane on TH-cam everyone chasing that status
@@RobotUnderground it's really a shame you felt the need to go down "THAT" road....you are about to become the person you claim to hate ...you should spend some time reading the comments on what your own fans think about what you are saying, but I guess you don't have to give a sh*t....you are not coming out of this smelling good....finally I guess it's really true..."haters gotta hate".....it's a shame because I just found your channel a few days ago and subscribed after watching one video.
@@MrMaxwood lol! I don't hate the guy. He's just as basic as any shop owner. I hope he does well, I just didn't like the misinformation he's giving out. I don't like his delivery, he sounds really dumb and then when he follows it up with wives tales gossip from big companies, it doesn't help that image. That's it. I was asked by people on my end to do a critique about him and I did. Now, if you're butthurt because of skin color or something, that's on you. DO NOT feel sorry for famous dumb people. It's nothing but trouble.
@@RobotUnderground butthurt is not a thing to me so you are on your own with that one. I'm not sure why you think colour/race is an issue for me so I'll just image you had to say that because you don't know me.... We can all have an opinion and voice them without being rude and trying to belittle others... Or at least we SHOULD be able to.
@@MrMaxwood Just remember that's your expectation. Anytime you have expectations, you'll be disappointed. I made the video as my opinion. My opinion is based on my years of service. I've dealt with a thousands of dumb buttholes like MB. All I was doing is sharing my opinion. If you want to have a discussion, that's fine. You can do it on YOUR CHANNEL. I don't have to reply to your comments here and you don't have to comment. The arguments you make in these comments are not yours to make. (MB should be the one to reply, otherwise you're putting words in his mouth.) No quality outcome will come from your argument. That's one of the reasons I don't care to engage as I've already made my argument in the video and there's nothing you can say to change my opinion on this subject.
My man…do your research on this man before you criticize. Just because his style of communication as a “black” man isn’t as clear does NOT mean he has a learning disability. I’ve watched about 75% of his channel and his philosophy, skill set and physics knowledge base is very accurate. You judged him based on this ONE video. Cmon man be real with yourself
lol. Actually I've tried to watch MANY of his videos and knowing what I know about what he SAYS HE KNOWS, I know he's an idiot and a charlatan. At least shop owners will try to get you to go one way or the other before they put stuff in your butt. MB just starts out demanding that you tickle fight him and he ends up finishing in your butthole with AIDS and Super Cancer.
I don't need to. I know his job and it's what I used to do in my early 20's. I don't want to profit off of him. I actually felt bad for him until he started talking that status bullshit. Then I was out and done with him. If he makes corrections and changes, that's good for him but I probably won't give him any more of my time. I was really responding to several users that asked me to check him out.
@@RobotUnderground It was just a thought. Some people don't seem to know that your limited by physics and that speakers aren't some sort of voodoo magic.
"phenomenal"?....like a phenom? ....like his boxes "float in air" or magically cook you dinner"?? .....hahahahah! that would be a "phenom"....you like his boxes, ok. you think his boxes are "good", ok.
Wow. I see why everyone speaks so bad about robot underground now. I mean to say your critiquing someone but you make personal attacks about their IQ and speak so negatively to make yourself look good and smart isn’t good. I mean people can say your subs are the most ugly looking and bad built subs in the industry and wouldn’t be lying. They could also say personal things about you to boost up their ego and get attention but then again I guess that’s just criticism. If you want attention how about market your products more and make them look better instead of stacking the most ugliest motors and baskets you can find and trying to make sales. Like at least make it look professional and not like you found some free motors and stuck them together. Bashing everyone when your company is getting no attention isn’t cool. You’ve been around but no one even runs your subs really. If you want to run a business be more professional and not not a teenager. I’m glad you don’t want to be in audio anymore. It wasn’t working anyways.
The hate you see is within you. I was just expressing my opinion and disgust with people that either don't know any better or do know better and tell you BS because it benefits them.
@@humbleshootertm2687 I don't need the approval of a brand to do good work. I did good box work back in the 90's. Now I only do designs because I do bigger, more important things. Box work / wood working is contracted out to a woodshop. I tell them what to do and they do it as good or better than anyone out there. It's that easy. MB doesn't do anything special. Kicker owns him now. I won't be owned by anyone.
His original name was Myron Bethany and his original claim to "fame" was sundown x8s in what he call "big mouth" enclosures. He uses social media to boost sales of not only his enclosures but the brands he happens to get kick backs from.
Why would you be so ready to insult a man that you only partially disagree with. He doesn't push any brand, in fact when I called for consultation he stated that he wasn't gonna bash anyone's work and that my current setup was correct. It sounds like your issue is with brand marketing, capitalism and southern accents. No one is void of error. We're all here to fill a gap and service our own specific niche.
I'm looking for a company who makes custom high excursion speakers. A while ago i found 1 where you could add multiple magnet layers for xtreme xmax and power handling. I forget the company but i think i found it on this channel? They where custom made and extreme ( pricey )..
So your saying if you sold whatever your selling for millions you wouldn’t have a company like kicker,JL,Rockford I’m so confused to what you think MBEnclousers did wrong he makes and sales enclosures for any and all brands so what are you ranting about also whatever amp you pointed at saying you couldn’t find bad reviews has to be false because there is bad reviews for everything
Jl audio, rockford fosgate, alpine all have Patents on alot of there circuitry inside there amplifier. That's why there better. All this guy talks about and trys to sell people are same trash amps you can get at flemarkets
I think some of these are valid critiques. Im subscribed to MBE, but I don't take his word as gospel. To me, he's a cool dude who loves building enclosures. No different than watching one of the guys at my local shop talk about enclosures lol. I think a lot of his followers truly believe that his enclosures are special when in reality, they're not. Still though, I watch his vids because I like hearing what he has to say and seeing/hearing the different subs he tests out.
@@pedromaldonado1408 Round ports are typically too small and you need lots of them to get the port area that you need. The flare kind of helps, but what really helps is making the port large enough to begin with. L -ports aka slot ports just utilize the space of the box better than multiple round ports. Air is a fluid so it doesn't care what shape it is.
I have sent him several times bloopers on his videos. He is willing to listen and learn. I will give him that. Try explaining to the owner of EMF he's wrong and why and you are banned immediately. Lol.
I think you should watch more than one video. He makes boxes better than most. His systems sound better than most that go to audio stores to get systems. Look at the feedback he gets from his customers. He also tests the boxes and subs on his channel as well. You sound like a hater. He also stands behind his work.
I think u should watch more of his videos so u can get a better understanding of what he does he says he can make any subwoofer sound good don’t hate on the man tho
@@RobotUnderground if anyone could everybody would but that's not the point you don't have to knock this man's hustle n be disrespectful the way you do if anything if you feel you can build a better box then do that give us something to compare to but hating on the next man ain't cool
@@UncPluck1374 I don't have to give my opinion but there are literally HUNDREDS of other people that have appreciated my opinion. If you like the guy and want to send him money, GO FOR IT. I was just giving my opinion.
i watched him a while back, a word came out of his mouth that just irritates the living shit out of me......."expert". no such person or thing exists. i have been doing audio since i was 16, i still don't know everything. i am now 50. knowledge is ever growing and changing.
People use the same thing about formal education. However, most of the formally educated people I've met do not have common sense or how to apply things they've learned. Like a papered dog, they still poop in the house and love to eat cat shit.
Incorrect....the USA government legal definition of an "expert" is someone who is 1 or more; A professional in the field for at least 5 years, or an amateur for over 10 years, who has or is patenting something in that field, someone who is world renown or know worldwide by other professionals in that field, any person in a large business in that field who holds a high status CEO CFO CTO CIT etc.., a person who has written formally or professionally about the subject or topic...someone who has a formal degree of a B.A. or higher in a particular subject, topic or product, someone by; education , law, licensing , or education, or experience that is qualified as a legal witness or able to supply testimony in a court of law in the USA.... Someone who so thoroughly understands the law or rules on the topic to such an extent in the field that they are able to loophole the rules or laws....there are also more qualifications...but I think you get the point...hahaha I currently own 2 jugg 15's...thier great.....I think the word is "GOD" a human cannot be a "GOD" in something or a product..that's irritating yeah.... but "experts" are everywhere...you see surprise jugger you youself are an "'expert"....by definition 2 ...an amateur more than 10 years!!welcome expert
You obviously have not purchased a box like I’ve had from mbe. Let me tell you the box he built me for two DD 8’s hit hard asf! I’m from Deep South Texas where the bass scene goes hard! Local shops have gone out there way to dismantle mbe box from customers bringing there veichles in for more audio needs because they never herd a box hit the lows so hard, so they can put there configurations dimensions in there computer withought customers finding out! Shame on them! The proper box build for specific sub woofer with proper airspace in correct veichle application, now that’s the MBE way! Y’all missing out!
Wasting magnets. Wasn't it Wiggins who wrote an article about adding extra magnets for appearance? Not sure if it had to do with smd sub. Or am I thinking of someone else? Maybe mojo.
I love when people really go outside of the box and get creative with it and especially when they can get good results out of something that doesn't cost a lot. You'll never hear that from a big brand
This video is just out of pocket for quite a few reasons and overall I don't agree and didnt get anything out of it besides you dont like him andbwhat he does. I don't agree with everything MBE does, and we have our own design characteristic, but I have respect how MBE carries himself.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. My background and research would say otherwise. If he wants to bring the mumblemouth movement to the mainstream, he's the guy for it. Soundcloud rappers are already taking notes.
Correct and that's why I'm on board with Tesla. Cars and stupid things like audio should be super affordable and not consume people's time. You get the best available and it's already in the car from the factory.
@@RobotUnderground are tesla not going to remove the simplicity home mechanics? As far as I understand they are the apple of cars, figuratively you go to change your oil and ruin your warranty. I'm a work on it myself kinda guy and just assumed that was out of the equation with tesla...
@@RobotUnderground aye that's what's up. Have you seen the hydrogen corvette on youtube? It's really old video and not extremely practical but it works and I always thought it was very interesting. Also water-to-hydrogen machines can just hookup to your waterhose and plug into your wall at home. The process is really slow but it does save on gas
I love that you speak the truth. No holding back. If I had known about your channel I probably would have bought different subs. I have two t1d212. What's your thoughts on those?
One Grown man calling another man a prostitute is super disrespectful this is what wrong with the world today no one puts people in there place Im unsubscribing cause this is childish be a man dude
I will never buy a box from him. I just watch it because its car audio content on youtube which is where I watch most things. His Facts aren't always facts but he's got a certain positivity to him which I like.
Im subscribed to both of you but I asked him on a live feed about pasive radiators today and if he would build one for the channel and he actually shit on PRs and my tastes in them. In the same feed he said he'd never talk down on another box builder but...I told him I'd been making boxes for 8 years in the same feed! Goes on to say, I must listen to hiphop only when Hiphop today fuckin sucks. I just rolled my eyes. He brought up kicker PRs and I told them those are terrible PRs to use😂
@RobotUnderground then a few hours ago posts some B2's Rages boasting about how they get down and he had a 2500 watt amp on them and you can tell the gain was set WAY TOO HIGH as the surrounds showed signs of Mech limits being breached. When someone brought it up his response was: "That's a tremendous amount of power...all that dimple at that level". Ummmm....why would you want to set gains on speakers to have that much voltage going to it unless you wanted to find yourself online ordering new ones cause you fucked up the old ones🤣🤣🤣🤣 I would take it down....just dismisses some of his own knowledge on other gain-staging videos he's done. I Put a Skar 4500 on 2 DC Audio Level3s and had so problem getting loud and low and my Surrounds stayed uniform. The windshield glue tore open, and my seal loosened around the trunk line. So much for putting tremendous power on them😆
I live mbe also to grow your subscribers don't do it by shitting on good people with higher followers just looks bad.......mbe is a genius he knows his shit
lol. That's what I've been saying. HE DOESN'T KNOW HIS SHIT. He's a big dummy that's faking it. I think people like him because he's black and relatable. I know it's nice to have and see and hear black faces in the industry but he's not a smart guy. I wish him all the success but he's going to implode because he doesn't have integrity. This is just my experience in the industry talking. It has nothing to do with my personal views. My personal views tell me that people that do like him, don't know any better. I recommend you educate yourself so that you can know better.
My exsperiance with his channel I have watched about a dozen his videos. Is he is very humble about his skills not being magic and anyone can do what he does as he repeats often . And he builds boxes for all brands and says repeatedly any sub can sound good not just the big brands . Ya he sometimes says something's off the mark. But over all a good channel. Just my opinion . And also I appreciate your honest reviews too.
I don't get why smaller channels wouldn't want to help one another rather than hinder. This could have been an awesome collaboration in the future. Instead I'm just reading comments on a video of a creator I'm no longer subbed to anymore 🙃
He's doing something right if he's got that many subscribers. My agenda is to make high end equipment a utility. Super affordable and nobody even thinks about it anymore because they have what would be equal to $10k in a car that comes with that from the factory... Like a Tesla.
My other fav is that you’re a classic racist whenever you have to tell people you’re not a racist you usually are and I’ve met you you are😂
@@richardsavedra4994 "I've made love to The Blacks", is my favorite.
@@RobotUnderground dude fawk u why don’t U contact him personally be a man, ur a real piece of shit for that lost a lot of respect for u
This must be one of his haters that he was talking about on his live episode 😂😂
Critiquing really, by attacking MBE’s character as a man, a father, husband, and his TH-cam channel by saying he has a learning disability. If he has a learning disability then please explain following;
MBE enclosures TH-cam channel
Joined Nov 9, 2011
2,192,842 views
15k subscribers
RobotUnderground TH-cam channel
Joined Aug 19, 2006
1,339,642 views
5.33k subscribers
RobotUnderground, or any of his loyal followers please explain the above. We are waiting on a answer.
Mr. Beast is a douche and has millions of fans. What does that say about fans?
@@RobotUnderground 😅💯
I Personally drove 9 hours to pick up my box in ATL from MBE. All I gotta say is wow when I heard mbe's truck. I've been in SPL builds and SQ builds almost everything and I have to say his was still impressive for only 2 8s. I LOVE my MBE box.
That just tells me you don't know anyone in your area. There are lots of cabinet makers that can do the same or better work for the same, or better pricing and even cut it on a CNC if you have the drawing.
@@RobotUnderground I know plenty. I started building my own now. I went to MBE because he is a honest man and show us the bass game how it should be played. I could have got any guy to make it here but I wanted to support him as well.
@@mrPelon863 same story with me. Live in ky .. I actually called a guy from Louisville and box was gonna be like 800/2k. Plexiglass, light show blah blah.. any actual custom box will be high.. so will MB
Maan this is crazy 🤪, this dude is envious of MB, watched another vid and was talking down on another guy. Won't be back ever again. Tiny penis problems
@@michaelmiller7350
Bye Felicia!
MBE is for the basic guys like us. Not subwoofer audiophiles. I dont have time to analyze girls. I just chat them up. Thats MBE.
I watch both channels and I appreciate what he is putting out there
You obviously have never watched any of his videos besides this one. He loves ALL subwoofers, not just JL or Kicker. Learning disability? You're drawing a conclusion over misinformation, which is what you are bashing him for. Grow up and stop trying to push your recoil garbage on everyone. How could I forget about Jiz Llama, that name suits your personality perfectly.
theinsaneunknown hahahaha
Have you purchased or listened to the recoil stuff? Or are you guilty of exactly what this guy is trying to point out?
I bought 2 sets of the component 6"s before i found this channel., i personally love them.. but what do i know.. i've only been doing car audio since 1989
He regularly gets 140s on almost any 8. With 1500 watts.. mid 40s on tens.. the guy can build boxes.. and that's what he promotes.. his boxes! Now.. if you wanna critique his boxes , buy one . Then critique him.
@@jimbobdobbs1597 You have a good point Jim, I may have been a bit harsh. I have a pair of recoil tweeter, but nothing else. They are ok, just more of the same rebranded crap everyone else does. I get it, it's more of a budget brand and something you would put in a vehicle you don't really care about. I do in fact have ears though and most of the recoil stuff I have heard, is awful. The quality is mainly due to poor crossover circuitry and it's VERY hard for me to think someone is purchasing these to go active on a dsp. Recoil was just a casualty here, but I stand by my statement.
And the price is what makes them even sweeter!
He makes what people expect
And there will always be a following for that reason.
Well, he gives them what they want, even if it's too expensive or bad for them / their equipment.
Life is better when ppl focus on themselves instead of this...
Yet here you are commenting towards me. Hmmm.
@@RobotUnderground I'm a lover of home/car audio. Real life issues occur everyday. When it comes to a hobby, I'm on straight positivity and this is not it. Don't feel attacked, I have love for everyone. As an adult, identify people for what they are and handle them accordingly. Different people, play different roles; prostitutes, police, doctors, engineers, fast food workers... It is, what it is. My comment is an interaction, in support of you. When I really don't like content, I don't take the time to comment.
@@derricknorman1138 Then start your own channel bud. Someone asked me to look into this guy and this is what I found. If you think it's negative, stay away. I think it's a positive way to reel in a guy like this that is out of control. I'm sure you feel the same way about me. That's fine.. Say it on your own channel.
Man! Big facts!
Seems obvious to me that this guy is sharing real world experience, and you are reading from a manual. No misinformation spread. Actual results. Miss-spoken words and bad comparisons aside.
I'm sharing my real world evaluation of bullshit.
Seems to me you b**** and complain more than anything if I want to hear people belittling people and using profanity that's unprofessional I just watch the news. all that you talk you do the exact same thing you know better.
You bash everybody but why do you redesign using everybody’s shitty products if they’re so inferior?? Comical 😂
So that I can offer the same level of performance or greater for LESS MONEY.
Agh c'mon man.. it's MBE. he's a great box builder. Very nice guy as well. He actually will tell you he doesn't prefer and will not suggest any woofer.. he's also not a idiot bro. He started off in the 90s and was sent to acoustic schooling by rockford and other companies back in the day. Not that it makes him a genius.. but he's a good dude. Infact I think hes even mentioned you as a great builder before..
It will be a good learning lesson, if nothing else bro. We all have to start somewhere and just accumulate the tools over time.
Are you kidding 50% of his videos are him pimping Q-class L7,,, I can tell you I don't care what a woman looks like,,, but everytime I fat but walks by I'm staring at it, ,, he is lying
@@FrankStPeter he is high on them.. I think it's just simply the cone area thing.. its the whole " my 8s sound like 10s" thing.. which I agree dollar for dollar can be beat..
@@matthewguynn3652 Sure cone area is king but Dollar for dollar you could buy a 12 inch sub for quite a bit less than that kicker square 10” so don’t really understand the value in that at all...but to each their own.
How’s the ride feelin’
I got a box from him also, And I must say the best sounding box I ever owned. I don't know what your talking about and half the time don't know what he's talking about but his work is very good I must say and I'm very happy with the product. Bottom line MBE for life.
Thanks for your comment.
Its a wooden box.anyone can build one with a calculator and a square,and a pencil.🤷🏻♂️
@@bkh5746 I was building stuff like this when I was 13.
Ok before I start the video- he seems to know how to build boxes but can’t even name parts of a woofer. He does give great advice that beginners should follow. He likes his 8 inch woofers he puts in his truck. But he has fun and I like that he tells people that shops will just take your money even if they know there selling you stuff you can’t power and or won’t work right for the space you have and overcharge everybody
Which is true. However, he still buys into the fluff of status. That somehow Mercedes is better than Toyota when they both smell like farts.
@@RobotUnderground I hear ya. To me it’s funny how he’s good at building boxes but doesn’t understand woofers THAT well at all. I can build boxes but I’m also learning about woofers,seems he’s happy just knowing about enclosures but he makes money doing so so ya why should he need to know more.... unless he wants to make even mo money mo money mo money!
@@workingclassperson2124 Yes, I miss, "In Living Color", too.
It's amusing how people can hide behind the internet and voice their opinion. You seem like an intelligent guy that is butthurt because he didn't get his knees dirty and the industry passed him buy and now your gonna stick it to "The Man". This is a hobby that we all decided to take up because it is "FUN". I know your trying to open people's eyes and get them better deals but you don't have to go around bashing people. Do what your good at educate so people can make their own informative decisions. Don't attack some guy who builds boxes in a garage because he likes some National brand. You sound like the kid who's Mom bought him the imitation cereal because that's what they could afford and talked trash about the name brand to make himself feel better.
That's so funny you say that,,, that's the same thing I told MBE,,, I told him to stick to what he knows about like building boxes,,, not telling people about how well design kicker subwoofers are,,, they're junk.... Look up the definition of humble and that is not MBE,,, the point that Pat was making is he tells half-truths,,, I figured out the other day he was full of s*** with the black brick 8 you can get boss eights with the same TS parameters and xmaxx he's a Salesman whether you want to hear it or not
He is doing what he does on literally everyone of his videos. Being stark honest. And he is doing the audio scene a justice by shining light on content creators that may or may not know what they’re talking about, providing everyone with another view point. But that’s exactly what it is, just a different view point, take it as you will, or don’t... you did more bashing and shit talking in your paragraph of a comment than Patrick did in this whole video....
Okay my friend I see you're super intelligent and you know what you're talkin about,,, kicker is the best and so is MBE,,, I will say this a point of view is a point of view facts are facts,,, he says he's unbiased and he clearly is towards kicker,,, second fact if a Kicker sub fails the only people who can put it back to its original state is kicker or it is junk,,,
It's called envy, dude has that pretty bad
be nice he admitted he's navy
You would have given your critique of MBE a great deal more credibility, if even one second, you had actually met with and talked with the guy. He’s not a proponent of any particular subwoofer, he instead tells you he can make any decently built subwoofer sound better. While he appreciates SQL, he makes enclosures to specs of the subwoofer the customer has bought. He does like SPL subwoofers but will and has worked with any number of 8” subwoofers, from varying manufacturers. He also tells you he has no specific brand loyalty, other than to test all 8” subwoofers anyone is willing to send him or that he can buy. Your comment of throwing shade of “a learning disability “ is about as low as any grown man can stoop to trying to insult another…..without you ever actually having met the guy. He talks in common kitchen table language because it’s not necessary to be so extremely technical with all of his customers….when all his customers are “ bassheads “ looking for the deep boom. You could learn a thing or two about humility yourself and learn to take it down a notch. What I heard when you said “ your standards were high quality “ is a guy who is about as anal as they come. There will always be one technician, who based on his own opinions, believes he’s better and more qualified than the next…without actually meeting the other technicians in question.
That's your opinion. Good job. I disagree after viewing dozens of videos.
You know, after watching this video and you spoke on sub boxes being over built for subs, is making so much sense, that I had to go redesign my sub box. Thank you and appreciate you!
Glad I could help
You both are among my favorite audio guys. I can personally attest he went out of his way so that I could commission a box from him. Please give his content a further look bro.. yes he personally likes kicker.. but he doesn't make anything from them.. I mean it's your channel bro.. say what u want.. but as a fan of both, don't be that guy man!
just my opinion
@@RobotUnderground I understand bro.. guess I'm just a fan of someone in car audio for years .. has a channel and a dream and started in his garage .. interacts with his fans and offers a service.. which he doesn't hold a gun at anyone to use... Sound familiar? He also exposes the prefab industry on the boxes.. most claim to be a Hz they aren't. was more hopeful you could find something more in common with him. But again it's your channel bro... I still support ya
And he favors kicker because of the extra cone area on the L7’s because cone area is king
@@UncPluck1374 He can favor it all he wants but the "extra" cone area doesn't mean shit when it's 2x the price. Also, the other way to get more displacement is with excursion. Kicker subs don't handle what they advertise. Their amps are great, (still over priced), but the subs don't handle what they advertise. Usually if you read the fine print it's not a power handling number. It says, "Maximum recommended amplifier".
MB builds high efficiency subwoofer enclosures that are renowned in Atlanta area. Highly efficient sub boxes are designed to maximize bass output, simple as that. MB boxes are prized in the most influential music city in America today, says a whole lot
Which anyone with a saw can do. He's not special.... Well, short bus kind of special anyway. Just because an enclosure or subwoofer for that matter is "high efficiency", doesn't mean it's right for all applications. He just makes oversized enclosures that compromise power handing. Like a 12" sub in a 3cf box. That's way too big but it'll be loud.... At what expense?? Space and power handling. That's what the compromise is... And you don't need him to make you the enclosure. You can steal some voting / campaign signs and make skateboard ramps and sub enclosures like I did.
@@RobotUnderground jealousy isn't gonna get you his views nor followers, on some man shit, you could grow your brand by collaboration instead of hate for others In the same field. I like audio in many forms but negative comments about cool ppl in zero form. Maybe you have the courage to take that personal journey called growing up, but it's all on you. You're the one miserable
Def right, simple! Putting large boxes on any sub increases efficiency but it affects the sound which is why having the appropriate box volume is better for that particular sub is best.
I got my first loud speaker cook when I was 16, I got another 10 years ago. It’s marked up and dog eared. I recommend it to tons of people and I know, not one of them has bought one. 🤷🏻♂️
When are you gonna critique yourself? Let you tell it the entire audio industry should bow to you, Fosgate butt hurt you so bad you have to bash EVERYTHING & EVERYONE ???
It's in every video if you care to observe. I care about getting the highest performance for the lowest price. That's value. Then I want to empower you the user, to do the same and even make a living at it. NOBODY is doing this. This should set the bench mark for others. But if you don't see that, you're projecting your own feelings onto my videos. I wish you the best.
I've been using loudspeaker design cook book since late 90's. Hands down best info on enclosures ever.
I think it’s hilarious how you use brand names and people that are More popular than you to get views I love watching you hate on people it cracks me up
Don’t get me wrong your stuffs awesome and cheap it looks like you just need help in the advertising department
It's called word spamming and I was quite hated on eBay for doing it. The problem is that those brands exist and I want people to see that those brands ain't shit. So the best way is to bait them in and show them something different or a variation on something or as I use many times, "This is an alternative to....." I did that with some amps last year that were only $300 each shipped. Had all the connections near the same positions on the amp as the JL 1000/1 but was 1 ohm stable and fused for 160A, so more power than that same amp.. Plus it was smaller too, like the size of the 500/1 and was about the same price as a used 500/1. I thought it was a good alternative. We want to import them but the factory only makes them in silver and rose gold / copper color. We want black and then put a white Jizz Llama logo on them. Then back them with 100%QC and 3yr warranty.
I think the biggest problem is that companies are not setting correct expectations on products. Marketing pushes product and makes people believe they will achieve more than reality. In audio, it causes customers to think they did something wrong. Before finding out, they turn to spending more money on different enclosures, amps, etc. They never connect what they want to the reality of what they need to achieve it. It amazes me how someone thinks a sub should perform better, so they blame the box, it doesn't change as much as they wanted, so they overpower or clip the hell out of it, blow it up and throw everything out blaming the products.
Well, that's why I started Robot. I want people to find the best deals for the least amount and even learn to turn this skill into something they can support their family with.
Everything this guy is saying could be true but from my point of view this guy is hating on MBE's success. MBE makes a great product and all he has to say negative things about it If you ain't got nothing nice to say then don't say nothing. Talking down on someone's business is the same as taking food from there family. Can't stand this type of rhetoric. Build your brand on your own without bringing others down. And if you want to talk ish about others work then at least don't mention the company just voice your opinion without name dropping. I could understand if MBE was ripping people off and you wanted to inform others to stay away but your only talking about the cons of what he does. He already knows that power handling is the sacrifice of his box builds he's said it plenty of times. He also is not big on power hungry subs anyway. He likes to make the under dog out due the big dog. Your business will go nowhere being a bully of your trade.
lol. I think he charges too much but it's typical for a guy that hand builds them. I prefer CNC made glue and screw boxes over a guy like MB. Thank you for your opinion. I hope you build your own brand some day. The idea of the video was just to show how dumb and basic he is. That's all. He's not special in any way. This opinion is based on my market experience all over the country and doing this full time for 19 years now. It's not personal, just an observation of mine.
Sorry, but you got Myron ALL wrong. You slammed him over one video, and then you got him wrong on that video. 😕
Nope. It's just my opinion. Take it with a grain of salt.
I’m a dealer and I still have a passion for this industry I would love a engineering degree so that I don’t buy into miss information but taking out your hate on the missinformed is harsh. We all want to make money. JL for a big box brand just sounds good in just about every enclosure. JL is a great brand. I do see your point on the BL and I appreciate the knowledge but man you’re angry lol
lol. This ain't even angry. This guy is either dumb or selling hooch. If you do want to learn something in this industry, get a thicker skin and help people get a better deal.
I’ve been doing it for 20 years I don’t mind helping people who need a deal but I will admit after the 20 year manufacturing race to zero profit we saw I also don’t hate a profit either. But I can understand the idea that a woofer is a woofer. There is no unicorn juice or fairy dust that makes it that much different.
@@AudioGuru09 The same with boxes. If you know CAD, that just saves you some fees from the woodshop. It's the designs that are valuable. The execution can be done by day labor, it's not hard. Especially, when you're making 20-30 boxes at a time which is what I do now. I make the design, the woodshop has the CNC and does all the cute cutting and stuff. Then I have another guy glue and screw them together... Then I make carpet optional for the DIY guy or if someone just wants to save money.
@RobotUnderground I believe you both are partially correct.
1) shouldn't hate on the guy for trying to make a buck. The TRUTH is that most people don't care. They'd rather pay money to get something to not have to spend the time to research and make it themselves. If they're content with that, then so be it. Not everyone knows CAD or has the time to earn a degree (life choices, I know...)
2) I fully agree with Robot for stating the obvious add I feel this has to do more with what we're being spoon fed on a daily basis. TRUTH is that we're pretty stupid as a society and getting dumber by the second. I appreciate any or all knowledge given to me period, whether u pay for it or not. Besides the obvious discontent here, we can only really blame ourselves.
All of that being said, I pride myself in searching out facts. I feel we are all looking for answers in one way or another. We should all try to help each other out, because I guarantee you "the man" isn't going to help us. They're only looking to bend us over.... without lube!
He’s a nice guy and makes solid boxes. What I can say he does best is that he won’t build boxes for people trying to put way more sub then they have space for. He understands you can’t get loud shoving two 18s in small box in a trunk 😂
That’s funny I got pretty loud shoving four fifteens in a tiny grand am trunk after pulling them outta my 74 beetle hahahaha
@@fuckgoogleandyou8779 lmao I believe you when you say loud. You just lose the low end loud and efficiency. That’s all.
One Grown man calling another man a prostitute is super disrespectful this is what wrong with the world today no one puts people in there place Im unsubscribing cause this is childish he is acting like a little girl I bet he would not say that to MBE face to face
@@fuckgoogleandyou8779 Man that had to sound like ass
Damn he got more supporters in the comments then you got subscribed to your channel 🤣 mbe ftw
Like first fighting a fart in a dust storm
“Cin5cin” wins the internet for today lol
What about all the other subs he reviewed? I don’t understand what you’re getting for 15 minutes, it’s taking you too long to get to the point
If the customer is looking for boom, without a whole lotta power then where did you go wrong??
You say that the sizes of the box should match the vas. Does that apply to both sealed and ported?
That's not what I say. The Vas just tells you what the sub needs, in order to get down to the Fs.
He builds some shit enclosures. I had a buddy buy one for his truck and it looked like a first timer did it. I told him to send it back but he didn't want to go through the hassle.
Most his enclosures look like a kids stained it… I mean you literally just put the stain on and wipe it off 🤣how do you mess that up
1st off I'm subscribed to you and MBE. So I'm not a groupie of this channel vs that channel. I don't know how many of his videos you have watched to form your opinion of him and the work he does. Being that you build speakers and he does boxes how about you two meet and checkout each others products and actually talk about your thought process while you're doing it. But I don't think its fair to judge another professional unless you actually know them or you have keep fixing their products do to poor workmanship. As soon as this video was finished uploading i bet you got all kinds of people bashing MBE's prices who didn't buy a thing to form an opinion of the actual work he did for them. How many people are on here mad at the speaker he sold them? He doesn't sell them. All I'm saying is you sound corny bashing this guy who hasn't mentioned you not one time. And the other fanboys on here who haven't spent a dollar with the man to even rate his work. A speaker guy and a box guy could possibly get together and develop the next greatest thing but instead of checking his actual work you bash him based on a couple of videos. Even going so far as to down his intelligence. Not cool dude
Not bashing. It's called a critique. I think there's some things he can change and address. It's just my observations. I mastered what he does when I was in my 20's. It's not hard. I've moved on to other things and as I shared last night... I don't mind if the whole industry takes a dirt nap. All of this stuff is WAY OVERPRICED. I haven't even looked at his pricing. I was making my critique based on his salesman talk. It was bullshit and I won't let it slide. A user kept bugging me to check this guy out and I did. I reported to all of you about my findings. If you disagree, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
@@RobotUnderground ah yes very good critique. "This guy sounds like he has a learning disability" very thoughtful and measured of you
@@blakebrockhaus347 those was his words. I was kind of pissed off at his critique because you made it sound like that yours was absolute and that his was all f***** up. He even states that he doesn't know everything about car audio . Just cuz people don't think like other people they want to bash each other
@@RobotUnderground I fully agree with you I respect his work but his prices are insane
@@215sinakia7 I agree his work is wonderful. A little misleading on the design and some other aspects but the price is mostly what gets me and then also the game that he plays about being the hot chick and justifying his high price. I don't see Gately spouting such bullshit and he's still charges high prices but his quality is really good and nobody else is offering anything near that for anything cheaper. So he has the market and I respect that.
“Hey wassup back again”
He’s an MB fan himself! I can imagine how he gets ready for bed at night. His chants and rants goes something like this, “I wish I was MB” “I wish i had his following” “I wish everybody loved me like they love him” “I’m a loser” “Fuck MB” “I love MB” “Where’s my meth”
It's pronounced, "Mef".
@@RobotUnderground oh, that’s what you call it. That explains your behavior.
@@investormaven8803 You're funny
Theres always that one hater
Where?
I can't stand people like you hating for no reason
lol. I thought I gave MANY reasons, but thank you for your comment.
Apparently he builds a pretty decent box according to himself lol. Quoted me $650 on a box for a single budget sub not including shipping... I don’t really have the time to build it which is the only reason I asked for a quote but I guess I’ll make the time for that kind of money lol.
Holy Faulk! What did you ask him to build a 8th order with useless kerf ports? Out of birch and fiberglass?
I was wondering what his prices were, 650$ for a single ported sub? wth, might as well go gately boxes at that price. what a rip off. boxes are simple and easy to build with just a lil software anybody can do it. dude is straight stealing at those prices.
@@troydefond2307 that was a box quote for a CT sounds Tropo 18” in birch I presume. I also got a quote before that for a single NEP select 12” quoted 500 shipped. Both budget subs w stamped baskets and modest power handling. I asked about a few questions/recommendations when I contacted him both times and just got a short reply w the price and nothing regarding my questions/concerns. Needless to say I did not go ahead with either box...
wow, that's definitely a joke. and he uses home depot pine, says it's all the same and never mentions a thing about wood having voids and what not in his videos. to be short with answers ona box costing that match would definitely make me go elsewhere.
My box was 550 shiped for 2 American bass hawk 10s. I'm a couple states away.. pricey yes.. and he was definitely short with me as well.. and I think he needs to work on that.. the issue is probably people msg and calling without plans actually purchasing .. I can imagine he gets that alot.. I called another builder in Louisville and he was 1100$ and a used d4s custom box not even for my subs was online for 500.. so I did go with MB..
If you don't mind a critique yourself, I'd like to say the battery is not the source of power, It can not produce power, only stores it. The alternator is the source of power. Now I agree do not run your power off the fuse box supply stud!
only when the engine is running
The batteries are the source of power when your finished playing with your little boom box kid .. reason being compare the cost... I can purchase quadruple the power in reserve compared to the cost of multiple high output alternators... hahaha have you ever seen a four pump hydraulic suspension run off alternators hahahaha your listening to the big dogs here
@@fuckgoogleandyou8779 you are not very smart are you? Your 4 pump set up charges itself huh? Don't open your mouth of what you don't know about! Batteries store power it does not produce power. Nice try though.
Technically the engine is the source of power if we wanna go that route… 😂
@@thebotlobbydaily I beg to differ. However at the same time you're not wrong technically but half right. Takes power to make power.... But as far as producing electric goes, I'm going with what generates it
I’m looking to put two 8in subs in my truck due to limited space. In a sealed box. What are some subs you recommend? Thanks
I really like the recoil RW8. They're only like $36 each shipped and they play to 30 Hertz.
Text me direct when you're ready to try a pair 602-312-6504 just let me know your name and your shipping address and what equipment you'll be using
He might have said that part wrong but definitely looked at some more videos because he really explains everything that you're saying he also talks about you can put it in the overlarge enclosure but you know but you have to know what you're giving up and what you're gaining and what you're losing
Good. Some of his info is correct. Some is not. Do your own research on what's best for your setup and application / budget.
Making video's on hate is not a good look.
So don't do them.
Mb enclosure works for the client that has already tried a shitty prefab box, and sees a huge jump in output with the same amp and subs just in a different box, just more volume and lower tuned... It definitely works. But. As soon as you start running real power then running an enclosure to spec is more of a requirement
Yeah you sound like hating sir.... MBE is a very honest person and will tell you the truth about boxes and subs.....he builds some very good boxes and they sound good!!! His channel is very organic. Why would you even make a video about another man's channel/video? If you don't have anything good to say don't say it and stay in your lane.... do you
I disagree
DUDE WHETHER YOU'RE RIGHT OR WRONG-STOP HATIN
If Myron knew what he was talking about, he wouldn't be getting clowned every time that "paperclip" motor strength meme comes up. Jacob Fuller at sundown clowns him alot about that. Myron can build enclosures. Myron doesn't know s*** about subwoofer building at all.
And I would be fine with that if he would just be humble but he isn't and I think it's hilarious when he talks about humility.
Mr. R.U.. Can you do a video about box building software comparison. The reason why I'm asking this, is because I have use the ohm law on calculating cubic feet. And I have done a comparison with other manufacturers box cubic feet and I find the manufacturing numbers are way off.
Well I'm at the point now where I can calc it out in my head pretty easy. The best and most simple software is Blaubox. You can find versions of it with the screen save option disabled and you can run it in a Chrome based DOS emulator. The formulas they used back in the 90's are accurate. You can compare A / B enclosures or drivers. It also makes an optimized offer / recommendation. For building enclosures, I use the RE Audio box calculator which is Adobe Flash based which you can download and run on your PC.
Quick question, if you don't mind. You said you don't wanna make your enclosure bigger than the VAS of your woofer. I've never been told that before, so I instantly looked up the specs on my RS Platinum 12, VAS is 27.1L which is 0.96cuft. That doesn't seem right haha. Love your videos man, finally someone in car audio that isn't about just taking your money, real knowledge. Helping other bassheads, how it used to be.
PS. Might want some old Elemental Designs E10a.22's rebuilt soon if you would be interested.
The VAS is the size of the box got the subwoofer needs in order to reach the FS. Play around with the specs and when ISD and find the good balance that you enjoy. Most people on that subwoofer will find joy at about 1.75 cubic feet at about 33 to 34 Hz
@@RobotUnderground awesome, really appreciate that. I went big originally, 3.0 @ 30hz, it completely smashes the lows but does not like anything above about 34hz. Can I ask how I could get with you about the Elementals? I've saved them for well over 10yrs now lol wanted to originally learn how to rebuild myself, but now have 2 kids lol I really do appreciate your time & help man
Dude, I follow you both and I think you were VERY rough on MBE... I appreciate the more "professional" industry realities you share but shitting on MBE (a small fish in the car audio world) was off-putting. I mean, saying the guy has a "learning disability" was disappointing. I think MBE has a lot of good info... yes, a lot is communicated in layman's terms and not 1,000% correct but it's probably best for most of his viewers who do this as a hobby. I've seen a lot of his vids and haven't felt like he's pushing Kicker as "THE BEST".
to elaborate a lil' bit more, I think you're right about all the shady aspects from companies in this industry which rip people off, including shops... I don't think it applies to MBE. He may not know as much as you do but he seems to know enough to make good boxes for a target market. Just my opinion to you opinions haha
Thank you for your opinion I do appreciate it I know you didn't have to take the time to comment but you did.
Call it how you see it. I enjoy both channels also but we have to keep it real with each other also it can only help if you take it for what it’s worth.
Make lemonade!
The Loudspeaker cookbook you ste talking about. Do you have a n author or picture of the book? I looked up Loudspeaker cookbook and a thousand bullshit books showed up. Any help would be appreciated.
There should be a link in the description
Pat picks on the nice guys and leaves the big guys who pick on him alone 😆 classic pat
Give me a list of deeds you want done dirt cheap.
@@RobotUnderground just keep posting videos I enjoy lots of channels yours no exception my box does bang though 😉
Learning disability? I respectfully disagree.
He’s arguably climbing in the top 5 when it comes to car audio on this platform that’s just facts Steve Meade is the goat he runs the car audio lane on TH-cam everyone chasing that status
If you say so. Just because someone is popular, doesn't mean they're good.
@@RobotUnderground it's really a shame you felt the need to go down "THAT" road....you are about to become the person you claim to hate ...you should spend some time reading the comments on what your own fans think about what you are saying, but I guess you don't have to give a sh*t....you are not coming out of this smelling good....finally I guess it's really true..."haters gotta hate".....it's a shame because I just found your channel a few days ago and subscribed after watching one video.
@@MrMaxwood lol! I don't hate the guy. He's just as basic as any shop owner. I hope he does well, I just didn't like the misinformation he's giving out. I don't like his delivery, he sounds really dumb and then when he follows it up with wives tales gossip from big companies, it doesn't help that image. That's it. I was asked by people on my end to do a critique about him and I did. Now, if you're butthurt because of skin color or something, that's on you. DO NOT feel sorry for famous dumb people. It's nothing but trouble.
@@RobotUnderground butthurt is not a thing to me so you are on your own with that one. I'm not sure why you think colour/race is an issue for me so I'll just image you had to say that because you don't know me.... We can all have an opinion and voice them without being rude and trying to belittle others... Or at least we SHOULD be able to.
@@MrMaxwood Just remember that's your expectation. Anytime you have expectations, you'll be disappointed. I made the video as my opinion. My opinion is based on my years of service. I've dealt with a thousands of dumb buttholes like MB. All I was doing is sharing my opinion. If you want to have a discussion, that's fine. You can do it on YOUR CHANNEL. I don't have to reply to your comments here and you don't have to comment. The arguments you make in these comments are not yours to make. (MB should be the one to reply, otherwise you're putting words in his mouth.) No quality outcome will come from your argument. That's one of the reasons I don't care to engage as I've already made my argument in the video and there's nothing you can say to change my opinion on this subject.
This guy mbe called me at 3am . Telling me I had to make up my mind on if I wanted his box or not. I have never called back !
Well he was awake! That means the world is awake right?
My man…do your research on this man before you criticize. Just because his style of communication as a “black” man isn’t as clear does NOT mean he has a learning disability. I’ve watched about 75% of his channel and his philosophy, skill set and physics knowledge base is very accurate. You judged him based on this ONE video. Cmon man be real with yourself
lol. Actually I've tried to watch MANY of his videos and knowing what I know about what he SAYS HE KNOWS, I know he's an idiot and a charlatan. At least shop owners will try to get you to go one way or the other before they put stuff in your butt. MB just starts out demanding that you tickle fight him and he ends up finishing in your butthole with AIDS and Super Cancer.
@@RobotUnderground **THIS COMMENT** ....tells me all I need to know about you.
Just a thought... Send him a kicker q class equivalent that's made by yours truly. See if he reviews it.
I don't need to. I know his job and it's what I used to do in my early 20's. I don't want to profit off of him. I actually felt bad for him until he started talking that status bullshit. Then I was out and done with him. If he makes corrections and changes, that's good for him but I probably won't give him any more of my time. I was really responding to several users that asked me to check him out.
@@RobotUnderground It was just a thought. Some people don't seem to know that your limited by physics and that speakers aren't some sort of voodoo magic.
So you’re triggered about JL Audio?
His boxes are phenomenal.
I'm sure you could do a good job if you had the time and tools.
"phenomenal"?....like a phenom? ....like his boxes "float in air" or magically cook you dinner"?? .....hahahahah! that would be a "phenom"....you like his boxes, ok. you think his boxes are "good", ok.
WHY SO MANY HATTERS !!!!!!!!!!!!! MBE BUILDS BAS ASSS BOXES THIS IS MY 3RD BOX FROM HIM & THEY ARE WELL WORTH THE MONEY $$$$$
You're paying too much bud
They wish they were him
His boxes are selling. He talks more facts about products and his boxes. Who’s perfect. He doesn’t spend a lot of time talking about others.
Good. Why are you here then?
Wow. I see why everyone speaks so bad about robot underground now. I mean to say your critiquing someone but you make personal attacks about their IQ and speak so negatively to make yourself look good and smart isn’t good. I mean people can say your subs are the most ugly looking and bad built subs in the industry and wouldn’t be lying. They could also say personal things about you to boost up their ego and get attention but then again I guess that’s just criticism. If you want attention how about market your products more and make them look better instead of stacking the most ugliest motors and baskets you can find and trying to make sales. Like at least make it look professional and not like you found some free motors and stuck them together. Bashing everyone when your company is getting no attention isn’t cool. You’ve been around but no one even runs your subs really. If you want to run a business be more professional and not not a teenager. I’m glad you don’t want to be in audio anymore. It wasn’t working anyways.
I appreciate the comment section.
I've called him out on his own BS and he just replies like he didn't read the comment.
Well he's not looking for you and he's not looking to be challenged. He's looking for dummies and he's looking to take their money
@@RobotUnderground agreed, nice to find your channels. Real info no BS.
If hater was a person....
lol. Like you're doing now?
Sound like you hating
The hate you see is within you. I was just expressing my opinion and disgust with people that either don't know any better or do know better and tell you BS because it benefits them.
@@RobotUnderground You must of not bought a box from him. I have. Don't see kicker or any car audio company backing you.
@@humbleshootertm2687 I don't need the approval of a brand to do good work. I did good box work back in the 90's. Now I only do designs because I do bigger, more important things. Box work / wood working is contracted out to a woodshop. I tell them what to do and they do it as good or better than anyone out there. It's that easy. MB doesn't do anything special. Kicker owns him now. I won't be owned by anyone.
MBE FTW
As you wish.
I'm Joe,& I like magnets.
What's your favorite magnet Joe?... A free one? Yes, that's mine too.
His original name was Myron Bethany and his original claim to "fame" was sundown x8s in what he call "big mouth" enclosures. He uses social media to boost sales of not only his enclosures but the brands he happens to get kick backs from.
He don't get kick backs on any of those subs.
Smh here we go
Stop being a hater please it doesn’t look good. I gotten a box from him. The greatest sounding enclosure I ever had. You capping
Why would you be so ready to insult a man that you only partially disagree with. He doesn't push any brand, in fact when I called for consultation he stated that he wasn't gonna bash anyone's work and that my current setup was correct. It sounds like your issue is with brand marketing, capitalism and southern accents. No one is void of error. We're all here to fill a gap and service our own specific niche.
Lol. Ok noob.
Kicker unmask put him on the map
Kicker pimps all the audio youtubers except underground
Because one dirty hand washes the other.
I'm looking for a company who makes custom high excursion speakers. A while ago i found 1 where you could add multiple magnet layers for xtreme xmax and power handling. I forget the company but i think i found it on this channel? They where custom made and extreme ( pricey )..
we only make affordable custom subs
So your saying if you sold whatever your selling for millions you wouldn’t have a company like kicker,JL,Rockford I’m so confused to what you think MBEnclousers did wrong he makes and sales enclosures for any and all brands so what are you ranting about also whatever amp you pointed at saying you couldn’t find bad reviews has to be false because there is bad reviews for everything
Not everything is for sale, nor should it be. I'm sorry that you disagree. I'm not into slavery.
Jl audio, rockford fosgate, alpine all have Patents on alot of there circuitry inside there amplifier. That's why there better. All this guy talks about and trys to sell people are same trash amps you can get at flemarkets
TAKE TIME TO READ THE PATENTS. Most are BULLSHIT marketing.
Not sure which guy you're talking about,,, but all amps and the part are chinesium🤔
@@FrankStPeter Chinesium tastes great!
Ive actually gained building enclosure smaller than spec. Although i was powering subs over 2x the rms.
No way he invented the paper clip trick/gang
I think some of these are valid critiques. Im subscribed to MBE, but I don't take his word as gospel. To me, he's a cool dude who loves building enclosures. No different than watching one of the guys at my local shop talk about enclosures lol.
I think a lot of his followers truly believe that his enclosures are special when in reality, they're not.
Still though, I watch his vids because I like hearing what he has to say and seeing/hearing the different subs he tests out.
He tried telling me that the flare at the end of the round port doesn't do anything that it's just cosmetic bullshit 😂
That's mostly true. If you make the slot port large enough you don't need to flare it
@@RobotUnderground I meant an aero port
Not on a slot port but on a aeroport it does
@@pedromaldonado1408 Round ports are typically too small and you need lots of them to get the port area that you need. The flare kind of helps, but what really helps is making the port large enough to begin with. L -ports aka slot ports just utilize the space of the box better than multiple round ports. Air is a fluid so it doesn't care what shape it is.
Are you going to start selling boxes since he don’t know what he’s talking about
I already do and have been since 1989
Great questions 🤣
The bolt is useless. It's one more restriction when you can go straight to the source. The fucking battery. 🤬🤬
I was going to comment on how many comments a video like this produces and 4 comments popped up while I was typing. I love your haters man!
I have sent him several times bloopers on his videos. He is willing to listen and learn. I will give him that. Try explaining to the owner of EMF he's wrong and why and you are banned immediately. Lol.
I think you should watch more than one video. He makes boxes better than most. His systems sound better than most that go to audio stores to get systems. Look at the feedback he gets from his customers. He also tests the boxes and subs on his channel as well. You sound like a hater. He also stands behind his work.
lol. I've watched dozens. It doesn't get any better. He's a dumb turd.
I think u should watch more of his videos so u can get a better understanding of what he does he says he can make any subwoofer sound good don’t hate on the man tho
LOL, he just makes the box oversized. Anyone can do that.
@@RobotUnderground if anyone could everybody would but that's not the point you don't have to knock this man's hustle n be disrespectful the way you do if anything if you feel you can build a better box then do that give us something to compare to but hating on the next man ain't cool
@@UncPluck1374 I don't have to give my opinion but there are literally HUNDREDS of other people that have appreciated my opinion. If you like the guy and want to send him money, GO FOR IT. I was just giving my opinion.
i watched him a while back, a word came out of his mouth that just irritates the living shit out of me......."expert".
no such person or thing exists.
i have been doing audio since i was 16, i still don't know everything. i am now 50.
knowledge is ever growing and changing.
People use the same thing about formal education. However, most of the formally educated people I've met do not have common sense or how to apply things they've learned. Like a papered dog, they still poop in the house and love to eat cat shit.
Incorrect....the USA government legal definition of an "expert" is someone who is 1 or more;
A professional in the field for at least 5 years, or an amateur for over 10 years, who has or is patenting something in that field, someone who is world renown or know worldwide by other professionals in that field, any person in a large business in that field who holds a high status CEO CFO CTO CIT etc.., a person who has written formally or professionally about the subject or topic...someone who has a formal degree of a B.A. or higher in a particular subject, topic or product, someone by; education , law, licensing , or education, or experience that is qualified as a legal witness or able to supply testimony in a court of law in the USA....
Someone who so thoroughly understands the law or rules on the topic to such an extent in the field that they are able to loophole the rules or laws....there are also more qualifications...but I think you get the point...hahaha I currently own 2 jugg 15's...thier great.....I think the word is "GOD" a human cannot be a "GOD" in something or a product..that's irritating yeah.... but "experts" are everywhere...you see surprise jugger you youself are an "'expert"....by definition 2 ...an amateur more than 10 years!!welcome expert
You obviously have not purchased a box like I’ve had from mbe. Let me tell you the box he built me for two DD 8’s hit hard asf! I’m from Deep South Texas where the bass scene goes hard! Local shops have gone out there way to dismantle mbe box from customers bringing there veichles in for more audio needs because they never herd a box hit the lows so hard, so they can put there configurations dimensions in there computer withought customers finding out! Shame on them! The proper box build for specific sub woofer with proper airspace in correct veichle application, now that’s the MBE way! Y’all missing out!
Yes! I totally agree 💯💯💯
Wasting magnets. Wasn't it Wiggins who wrote an article about adding extra magnets for appearance? Not sure if it had to do with smd sub. Or am I thinking of someone else? Maybe mojo.
Vance Dickason is the original, and I still go back to his books for designing a good system
But what do i know i have a 15 gal fiber drum as a box for two 12 TremorX- that shake the hell out of my car on a modified o2 audio 3000
I love when people really go outside of the box and get creative with it and especially when they can get good results out of something that doesn't cost a lot. You'll never hear that from a big brand
This video is just out of pocket for quite a few reasons and overall I don't agree and didnt get anything out of it besides you dont like him andbwhat he does. I don't agree with everything MBE does, and we have our own design characteristic, but I have respect how MBE carries himself.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. My background and research would say otherwise. If he wants to bring the mumblemouth movement to the mainstream, he's the guy for it. Soundcloud rappers are already taking notes.
What you said about the audio industry is pretty true for the auto industry as a whole
Correct and that's why I'm on board with Tesla. Cars and stupid things like audio should be super affordable and not consume people's time. You get the best available and it's already in the car from the factory.
That's what I can pair MBE to used car salesman
@@RobotUnderground are tesla not going to remove the simplicity home mechanics?
As far as I understand they are the apple of cars, figuratively you go to change your oil and ruin your warranty.
I'm a work on it myself kinda guy and just assumed that was out of the equation with tesla...
@@RandoManFPV Well I plan to retro fit junky cars with electric.
@@RobotUnderground aye that's what's up.
Have you seen the hydrogen corvette on youtube? It's really old video and not extremely practical but it works and I always thought it was very interesting.
Also water-to-hydrogen machines can just hookup to your waterhose and plug into your wall at home. The process is really slow but it does save on gas
I love that you speak the truth. No holding back. If I had known about your channel I probably would have bought different subs. I have two t1d212. What's your thoughts on those?
Just find someone that loves them more than you and flip. They're good but not $600 each kind of good.
You like one of those hating basement stalkers watching that man channel looking to discredit dude for what idk
Thank you for the information did my research like you said and I avoid to paid this guy 900 for a box thank you bro for opening our eyes.
Spend a whole day learning how to build your own box. And then help others to save money. That's how I got my start
One Grown man calling another man a prostitute is super disrespectful this is what wrong with the world today no one puts people in there place Im unsubscribing cause this is childish be a man dude
I will never buy a box from him. I just watch it because its car audio content on youtube which is where I watch most things. His Facts aren't always facts but he's got a certain positivity to him which I like.
I see you commenting on his videos a lot. Thought you were a customer.
@@investormaven8803 not a customer but I like his enthusiasm towards car audio and the content he puts out. 👍
Im subscribed to both of you but I asked him on a live feed about pasive radiators today and if he would build one for the channel and he actually shit on PRs and my tastes in them. In the same feed he said he'd never talk down on another box builder but...I told him I'd been making boxes for 8 years in the same feed! Goes on to say, I must listen to hiphop only when Hiphop today fuckin sucks. I just rolled my eyes. He brought up kicker PRs and I told them those are terrible PRs to use😂
He thinks ego will bridge the gaps in his logic. I mean it works for women right?
@RobotUnderground then a few hours ago posts some B2's Rages boasting about how they get down and he had a 2500 watt amp on them and you can tell the gain was set WAY TOO HIGH as the surrounds showed signs of Mech limits being breached. When someone brought it up his response was: "That's a tremendous amount of power...all that dimple at that level". Ummmm....why would you want to set gains on speakers to have that much voltage going to it unless you wanted to find yourself online ordering new ones cause you fucked up the old ones🤣🤣🤣🤣 I would take it down....just dismisses some of his own knowledge on other gain-staging videos he's done. I Put a Skar 4500 on 2 DC Audio Level3s and had so problem getting loud and low and my Surrounds stayed uniform. The windshield glue tore open, and my seal loosened around the trunk line. So much for putting tremendous power on them😆
@@Macross223 #PaperTiger
I live mbe also to grow your subscribers don't do it by shitting on good people with higher followers just looks bad.......mbe is a genius he knows his shit
lol. That's what I've been saying. HE DOESN'T KNOW HIS SHIT. He's a big dummy that's faking it. I think people like him because he's black and relatable. I know it's nice to have and see and hear black faces in the industry but he's not a smart guy. I wish him all the success but he's going to implode because he doesn't have integrity. This is just my experience in the industry talking. It has nothing to do with my personal views. My personal views tell me that people that do like him, don't know any better. I recommend you educate yourself so that you can know better.