The POST NERF JAS39C Is Still Bussin
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Fuel: 20 minutes + droptank
Ammo: Default
Missiles 6x 9M
Countermeasures: Mixed
Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
Crew: maxed (lvl 75) + Ace
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Keeping them energy trapped on the runway 😂
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The skill required to win a 3v1 above their airfield. Absolutely breathtaking
Oh I'm taking lessons from this for sure.
The skill required to just let missiles play the game for you.
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Show us how you do what Defyn does every third match!
@@janchovanec8624 still no plane with air-to-air missiles, but once I get them I'll be sure to upload it for you.
Edit: I've got a jet with aims and I've uploaded the clips so far. See for your yourself I guess. More to come maybe?
Repent 😘
1:29 first cut I've seen where the enemy dies, not him. I'm sure it was a beautiful reversal nonetheless!
The f15s wings reversed him lol
Wdym the enemy always dies
@@DEFYNreal
defyn has never died in the game wdym
@@DEFYN *knocked out. Nobody ever dies in warthunder. War is a family friendly place.
The comprehensive breakdown of the airfield 1v3 is probably the best advice I've ever gotten in this game. Thank You. Hopefully that's the only time it ever happens and no one actually has to put the advice into practice.
cant wait for the next installment of this series when the thrust gets reduced 20%
Yeah people just need to get a grip 💀
From discussions I read the gripen is getting more thrust at low speed and less at high speed, but since the gripen is supposedly currently performing correctly in acceleration, drag should be reduced as well.
You predicted the future, though drag got reduced
the one thing that actually scared him was a stationary yak141 lol, and "that" 3v1 was amazing, mad skills
*Gaijin accidentally giving Britain something that doesn't suck* - "We can't have that now can we!"
Man i hate when someone kills me in a similar situation, but the three vs one with th su27??? Absolute comedy
su27 pilots are all idiots in my experience. Going in to rate fight F16s and gripen because hurr durr muh supermaneuverable superior vatnik missile sled
The deadpan commentary during the 3v1 was funniest shit in a while.
SO HAPPY you did a vid about it cuz I'm grinding it rn so I know what to expect.
I would say they need more top tier games designed around modern air combat
for example: 8 v 8 air superiority -> hold air superiority over X massive region of the battlefield for 10 minutes. And you'd be rewarded for forcing enemy players to leave the region, while enemy players are rewarded for time spent in the region (essentially like "capping" a point)
RADAR tracking and coverage should could for a lot as activity points.
all in all, it would make the gameplay way slower and "more boring" so it will never happen. But hey, you could add stuff like strike/interception missions as well to make it more interesting
I effing LOVE those cuts lmao. I’m so sorry you lost that footage.
That airfield commentary was priceless
6:17 no way these three bozos dumped all their speed like that....
Darn! That was great flying Defyn. Very enjoyable. You've got an uncanny ability to switch to and from defensive to attack, faster than the enemy moves. You'll be the terror in the sky when the Rafale and the Eurofighter come out. Cheers!
your edits where it just cuts off a fraction of a second after shit hits the fan are gold
How to fight top tier jets with MiG-23ML?
1) Equip R-24T.
2)Switch Radar to IRST.
3)Fly weird angles close to ground to keep out of sight.
3)Lock Unsuspecting Top Tier Jets.
4)Enjoy free kills.
5)Die from random missile spam.
6)Repeat.
The Gripen solves the UK's top tier vehicle problem, now we just need something to grind to it, in my opinion the good jets stop at 8.7 with the Swift F.7.
The issue could easily be solved if Gaijin gave us the good shit that we built, such as the Gnat, Superswift, replacing the Hunter f.1 with the f.4 and many other things.
Giving us the Swiss hunter instead of Germany.
@@cookiecraze1310 That or instead giving us the Omani/Singaporean Hunter FGA.74B which is a Hunter F.6 with 2-4 extra pylons for AIM-9P's and flares but no guided ordinance.
I think Germany got the Swiss Hunter so that they can later get the Swiss F-18, which I haven't got an issue with but they should've added a British Hunter at the same time too.
Today i completed the research of the grippen using the phantom fgr2.
And to get to the phantom i used the sea harrier frs.1
Problem is the grind.
IRL the RAF went from Phantom to Harriers and Tornado before Typhoon
@@pogo1140 Yep definitely, but I don't just see it as a top tier problem, but a problem with the entire tree. The tree has had the worst options possible selected. For example the Swedish hunter is the same br as the Hunter F.1, but its an F.4 airframe with 2 extra aim-9B's.
The UK needs the gnat, a better hunter, and some of the prototype aircraft we built. Whilst yes the RAF irl had huge jumps in capability, the UK still built a lot of aircraft and prototype aircraft that we do not see in-game.
The gap from phantom to typhoon I don't even see as the biggest issue, that would be rank 6 with no decent fighter. The gap from phantom to typhoon would be okay if the phantoms got the AIM-9L's, also now the gripen is there but it could've just as easily been the BAE EAP to bridge that gap.
The UK also does not have a SAAF tree so what was the point in adding the subtree. If we got an air-tree we could get things like the Atlas Cheetah at 11.0.
The grind of the tree is just horrible and there's so few good aircraft when other options exist. I could make a huge list of aircraft i'd have replaced or added.
If you ever do more props, do you think you could do a video on the Mk 24 spit? How to fight jets with it? Feels like a BnZ dodge simulator where I never catch anyone.
Average La-9 match.
he said if you are seeing a jet and they know what they are doing you are boned
Never stop the dutch mountain jokes
These Gripens IRL are rotting away in warehouses
The airfield bit, dude 😂
Once you mentioned energy trapped I understood the sarcasm 🍻
The Gripen made top tier fun again for me lol
That 3v1 was wild good stuff Defyn
love the content as always
I feel like if you have less than 10 pops of countermeasures split you shouldn't face too many high g all aspect missiles, and if you have less than 30-40 pops of countermeasures split then you shouldn't face anything that's hard to flare (irccm missiles and some others).
Yh, idk why most keep as much energy as possible if some aircraft, that only works at corner speeds and for specific aircraft, F-5E, F-16's, F-15's, F-14B, Gripen and m2k, you can use energy as an advantage, as for the mig23's, f4's, viggen's those aircraft's corner speeds suuuuuck. Meaning even tho they might have a decent sustained (20° or higher) the radius of that turn is also just as important, there is a reason the gripen can sometimes just sit inside your turns, it's because even tho the f16 (example) has 22° sustained, and the gripen has 21° sustained, both aircraft are at different speeds to do this effectively and also have a different radius, gripen, slightly worse, but a tighter radius, f16, better sustained, but slightly worse radius.
The flare count is the best thing about the gripen ngl
Instead of buying the ML i just quickly unlocked the MLD and put a talisman on it. I have not been disappointed
Gripen still gripping
@:6:10 Defyn, stay you, funniest commentary in the history of WT
if your like me and played the Harrier Gr.7 the speed bleed is something you have had to deal with before
True, I literally fly the gripen the same as a Harrier GR7 but with way more aggression.
Absolutely ridiculous mig 23s and phantoms have to fight this
last guy roleplaying as an air ballon was goat 😁😁
Average F-15 gameplay at 1:27
And it is about damn time too!!!
Before Eurofighter Brits can still get CF-18 from Canada or Australian F-18
honestly I like this update due to the mostly minnimal power creep (there is some but F16's mirage2k's and mig 29's are still competitive in most aspects) and it rotated the meta from missiles to flight performance... I assume the grippen is probably the meta plane RN just due to the combo of flight performance and countermeasure amount but I would love to hear your thoughts
Su-27 is the meta. It has 10 missiles, including the best IR and radar missiles in the game.
The power creep already existed
Playing 11.0 or 11.3 is impossible
You are in mid 3rd generation planes up against 4th gen aircraft that can dunk on you anytime they choose
We need decompression
Why would I play a fat and useless mig having the su 27 😂
bornonthebattlefront yes the power creep is already here but it has not been majorly increased by this update (personally I think it is worst in stuff like the F100D F104 and mig19 because they blow everything outta the water with their performance but fight crazy missiles) I think we should have more BR's (14-15.0) the SU27 is the low skill floor meta the grippen is probably the high skill floor meta as shown in this video also SU27 is the fattest and not quite the worst flight performance but even a mig 29 (non SMT) would rinse it in a dogfight
@@bornonthebattlefront4883I've been playing the FG1 11.3 phantom and I've actually been clapping everyone and anyone so hard atm for some reason
I mean considering irl its kindof an 4.5 generation fighter. this makes sense against only 4 gen aircraft
6:30 perfect commentary lmao..
I love ur vids man it's so funny when u insta switch to another match when something goes wrong XD
When is the motorbike channel coming?
Nice vid - would you not recommend taking the skyflashes then?
Yo the video finally came out I remember grinding in the f4s and being smacked by one of your 9m’s. Have a great day Defyn:)
Flying Viking got skills!
i was suprised when i saw you take 20 mins of fuel + tank. i take min fuel + tank and i dont have problems. and its not because i die too quickly, i often last whole matches (although matches are quite short nowadays)
I have most fun trying to carry so I dont mind comprimising early game if it means I can try to 1v4 later
The number of people being salty over this is insane
i still hate the idea of instead of making all plane play feel great and good control they just nerf this nerf that and make all jet feel clunky
@@annguyenlehoang7779 play Arcade😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What's insane is the people saying the Gripen needs to be nerfed more are the same people who say the f-15 has a bad airframe (its quite literally the best plane in the game when flown correctly).
35 years of Gripen in 2023
Have a nice day Defyn
Cant wait for the Mirage 2000 spam at top tier once the Winter Event is over! (I can farm kills)
Me when another nerf is right around the corner
For those who are still surprised and confused by the Gripen in the brit tree I'll add some rationale.
Beyond the fact that Britain REALLY needed a good top tier for ages now there is some logic behind this.
It would be more accurate to call the British tree the Commonwealth tree at this point. For those who don't know the Commonwealth of Nations is an international Association of former British Empire territories.
We already have Australian aircraft, an entire South African ground tree and also the Indian T-90. All of these nations are Commonwealth members.
Thus do not be surprised if we see Australian or Canadian F-18s im the British tree in future and more vehicles used by Commonwealth Members.
I also wouldn't be surprised if warthunder straight up just change the name of the British tree to the Commonwealth of Nations tree because that seems to be where they are going with it.
It gives the the leeway to bolster a tech tree which kinda struggles towards the higher brs on both air and ground. Heck if they do go with this direction we could have a top tier Commonwealth grb lineup including Challengers, Canadian Leos, Australian Abrams and Indian T-90s...that is kinda terrifying...
Shhhh don’t let the snail know it’s still good
Italy could get a Hungarian one if Gaijin cared enough... among other jets...
Only a W because it isn't a British aircraft, but Swedish, and in the South African airforce
DEFYN do you think that they will change the su27s flight model and give it good maneuverability and slightly better energy retention or is it going to be a brick forever
Once Everyone get their ARH missiles, they might aswell buff it. Otherwise, we have to wait for later variants
@@icantsleepman I really hope we don’t have to wait for the thrust vectoring variants for them to have good agility but I also can understand why they don’t buff the fm because it would be so overpowering if it was more “realistic”
@AvoidGN Naah I doubt we have to wait that long and in the end the Su-27 does have pretty good maneuverability it just doesn't have the energy retention to back it up. And I think the Main reason Gaijin keeps nerfing russian FM's is because of the R-73. That missile alone can win you dogfights
US mains would start bitching about Russian bias and review bomb gaijin if they even think about buffing the Su-27.
Flanker flight model feels really good? If you learn to manage your speed it's insane against everything you merge with.
how is jaktviggen nawadays ? last time i played it was the topdog? and it seems to have alot stronger engine then this new gripen ?
remember guys, its the pilot. not the plane.
Why not just give britain the eurofighter? A gripen equivalent?
Thanks for noticing the suffering of top tier brit
DEFYN the swedish one doesn't have hmd, right?
Both do
Is there any reason you dont really shoot aim9ms in head ons?
You were smirking LMFAO
Good British plane? Ah never mind it’s not British
I saw the previous title.
DEFYN, you sound a little sick
It was 3AM but i am not 100% atm no
Nothing bad should blow over in a day or 2
What do you have your periodic countermeasures set to?
1 second
@@DEFYN thank you!
Hi, could you do a guide to properly paly at top tier ? i can do well until like 11.0 with the right plane but i'm completely getting my butt kicked trying to spade my Mirage F1, and i see you manage to alway to make work any plane even if you say it's not good. That'll be amazing, thanks
Defyn, do you have any tips for the f15?? I got it got all the missiles in sim but I’m just constantly getting dunked on. It’s extremely frustrating and I don’t know what I’m doing wrong.
Stay fast, see how you can avoid missiles (aim9-m really ez) and stay aware
@@Palpatine_e_sua_geminha really only having issues with the 27er and 73 lol
I made 2 videos on it
Nothing id say there that i wont here
Completely spade the flight performance and weapons
Why JAS-39C?? The only one in RAF service is with the RAF Test Pilot school.
This should be a Typhoon
ive been tryin to look up how you get the missles heat seeking circle to fallow where you free look can you help me with what setting that is?
We Need a EUROFIGHTER, im tired of these slow ass jets from the UK
bruh 1:24 😂
Hello Which ammunition cartridge should we choose for Russian propeller-driven fighter planes? I would be very happy if it helps. Thank you.
hell ya dood
How do some missiles ignore flares? Is it just because they didn't cover the engines?
Aim9M, r73 and magic2 have built in flare resistence
Jo Defyn do you know someone named F14 Enjoyer?
Never heard of m
please play the B-239
They shouldn't have given this plane the BoL pod. In it's current state with say, 100 flares it would be a strong but somewhat balanced plane. However with the 700 flares anyone can fly it with periodic flares on which is an advantage no other 12.3 has.
why do you disable radar ? is it because its useless if you dont use skyflash and only aim9L no ?
Whilst me in F15... come on fucking turn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U flying bus!!!
P.s you decal is sick mate. pisses people off lmao
its good you kept ur speed up in that 3 v1. i wouldve airbraked to match their speed just to eat shit
shouldn't it go the other way with this being the copy and the swedish being the original?
So.... What is the most fun aircraft now at top tier?
Most fun? Gripen or M4K. Most fun if you like meta vehicles, Su 27.
Gripen is the most fun in a memey sense, you're extremely hard to kill for other players, but sometimes you do feel a little useless with 6 9ms. Obviously the su-27/ j-11 is gonna be more meta fun with 10 of the most effective missiles in game.
@@areyou0k98 the thing that makes the Gripen abit eh is the "small" amount of missiles, not the quality. 9M's are still joint first with the R73 for the best short range missile (9M has a worse IRCCM but better range and smokeless motor, R73 has the joint best IRCCM with the Magic 2 and the best manoeuvrability but worse range and can be easily seen)
It may sound as a complain but how the heck this jet has the same size of other jets and room many more chaff/flares? I wish other jets could have the same without nerfs.
So the Swedes invented a countermeasure pod that fits onto the same pylon with missile, meaning you can carry a huge amount without sacrificing any firepower.
They fit on a few NATO aircraft, the Brit top harrier has them.
wait so they can use the nerf and use it like a better air brake
why TF does britain gave a gripen
South Africa uses them, and the brits already have a SA subtree
@@frostedbutts4340 now that's some lazy reason from the snail
Day 17: Do you think you could fly the F3H Demon again? I know it’s pain, but you do often make content out of flying painful planes, and you haven’t covered the Demon in a long time.
aaaannnndddd it's already nerfed...again.
Shhhhhh don't say that. Gaijin will nerf it more you know they hate us brits
Love the content as always!
Could you give your thoughts on my suggestion i put on the Forum regarding adding a new mode for Top tier, Gaijin accepted it but still needs recognition
Suggestions
Maps/Missions/Events -Top tier air RB mode
If your like the idea, would love your support!
Can you do the premium Yak 38 pls
The amount of flares this thing has is absolutely disgusting
VTOLs are fkn sussy af. I never know what to do against them tbh. YaK'll just turn on a dime and radar missile you out of the air.
W
You really gotta stop dropping this epic content at damn near midnight🤣
(Note: this is sarcasm, you should understand this concept if you've been on this channel for more than 5minutes)
It is a different timezone…
it's 5PM for him, sorry he's not aussie
Wow... do people not understand sarcasm😐
@melle9155 Don't read everything as if it's completely serious
Day 6 of asking for a review of the A-36 Us Tech tree
Defyn you sussy baka
Is there not gonna be a pack sale this year?
Literally one going on rn, December 26-January 2
It just got another buff at low speeds n a nerf at high speeds , ppl r saying it easily beats f16s now u got to make another vid on gripen now lol
It plays the same i aint making another for a bit
so basicly the solution for top tier non sense is never ending flairs, shame my flaires dont work and yours do...... isnt that gaijin logic