2023 Hyundai Elantra N - The Honda Civic Type R Fighter! (POV Binaural Audio)
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The Korean FL5 Fighter! What do you think? Which car would you choose? DCT or Manual?
Hmmm can I choose the FL5 handling + gearbox, but the Elantra's soundtrack 🤔
Manual for sure
Manual for me...
But for someone who buys the DCT... Its pretty decent tho
@@丂几几乇尺 I thought so too till I experienced my buddy’s dct Veloster N. They really did good with the tuning of their dct.
DCT so my fiancé can drive it too 🤣 This seems like the perfect step up from my ILX
10K cheaper than the MSRP Type R is only part of the story. It is really difficult to even find a Type R in my region, and I'm hearing about outrageous mark-ups at the stealerships. On the other hand, my closest Hyundai dealer had 3-4 of these on the lot, and was showing pretty close to MSRP. One color was about 1K more for some reason (everything else looked similarly equipped.) Great that both these cars exist.
They previously didn't charge extra for colors on Elantra (any trim), but some colors are now an extra charge...both white and performance blue for 23 are $400 more so that's possibly why one was more.
Yeah there are zero optional features for the EN, just color and transmission. Big respect for them saying “we know what we want this car to be”
I don’t know where you are at. But my local Hyundai dealership had a couple of these and I was really interested in buying one but after a test drive and about to work on buying it they told me there was a 10,000$ “market adjustment” and they had it listed everywhere online at the msrp price.
The question is, how much will the EN depreciate in comparison to the CTR? CTRs are selling for over MSRP still despite being 5+ years old.
@@BostonT_ I believe it. My dealer did the same exact thing to me when I went to get mine. Had it all marked at MSRP and when we went to sit down do do financing they were asking 45k for the car
I like that Tedward is very detailed and thorough with his reviews, both the critical side and the pros. I get a lot of insight that traditional reviews cannot give.
I’m a Volkswagen fanboy, first car was a 1.4t Jetta, currently own a 1.8t 2015 Jetta. I’m looking to get a brand new car either spring, or beginning of summer in 2024 (currently going through breakup and transitioning to owning the apartment on my own so need to sort out finances) and this car is that car. I was torn between the GLI, and the golf R. For literally close to $10,000 less than its competitors, you get a better sounding, more features, crazy beautiful build quality, beautiful infotainment system and gauge cluster, the illuminated N’s in the seats is just wild, and this car is just awesome all around.
In the same exact boat my friend.
Funny that I just stumbled upon this video as I just came back from the car wash, sat for a minute and thought. I really love my Elantra N, coming from a Tuned 2.0 Genesis Coupe... it was the logical successor. Room for people and things, Quick, Fun, Practical car. Fits into daily life perfectly.
SRT-4 had a mechanical LSD in 04-05. Still one of my favorite FWD cars of all time. Stock exhaust sounded great, great front seats, factory stage upgrades and you could literally take 95% of the car apart with a 10mm socket lol.
oh great, so you had to have about 3 dozen 10mm on hand for when you lose them....
My buddy has two of them always tinkering and tuning his car. Those car are really simple to pull apart and put back together and also pack a punch when it comes to power.
Agree 100%
My Saab can be entirely disassembled with a Torx screwdriver set and it makes more power than the Elantra N 😂
@@trionic5 not even close buddy. You have a Chevy motor in there hope you know that
Haven’t had the luxury of driving any type R but I can just imagine how great they are. I ended up purchasing a 2023 elantra N dct due to budget and the option of an automatic(I love dual clutches). I agree the type R is ahead in a few categories but I think saving 10k and then putting that money into the elantra N will put it right up there with the FL5. Surprisingly your biggest issue is my favorite thing about the car, the steering weight is so nice.
Haven’t driven the N but I had a feeling when he said it was heavy….my thought was…”I’ll bet it’s perfect for me.” Lol
Big problem is, that he had lane keep assist on. He couldn't really tell what the steering felt like, although it is a bit heavy. I love my DCT EN though
The best thing is, the heaviness doesnt feel artificial. There isnt that much feedback from the road, but the weight gives you a really good feel how much grip you still got. In a lot of other cars (especially VAGs) the heaviness often just feels dampened and doesnt give you any feel for the grip level.
Does the acceleration of the dct Elantra N really push you back into the seat?
They are closer than you think. Type r and elantra N tracks times are like a very close (like .5 to 1 second for the type R)
Can’t believe this is your first time getting your hands on an EN! I’m glad you finally got to experience one, especially the DCT, since like you said, it’s almost not fair to compare any other manual to a Honda CTR manual. I’ve had my 22 Elantra N DCT for 8 months and 13k miles. It’s been amazing. I downsized to 18” wheels with DWS06+ tires and installed a $40 engine bushing and with just those changes I ran a 12.9 @ 110mph 1/4 mile. The car is an absolute beast for $35,000. And you nailed it on the head when you said it evokes feelings of the Dodge Neon SRT4. I test drove one of those when they first came out. I was a poor college kid and could swing the gasp almost $25,000 asking price ha ha. But I loved the sensations that thing had, and as soon as I got in the EN I instantly time traveled back to that test drive and thought wow, this is just a more modern, grown up version of that car, which is a great thing. As far as the steering goes, yes, it’s heavy but you can customize it in the custom N settings, which I turn down to normal as well as the suspension, so you get the burbles and pops but smooth ride and easy steering. As always, love your POV drives and commentary!
whatd the wheel setup cost? i hate the stock wheels- had 2 blowouts already at 10k miles
@@Jszul2318 the package was just a hair over 2k from Tire Rack.
@@n-power-automotive damn i can't swing that rn but i do wanna go to the strip, did u lose launch control
I got my brand new I30 N Performance (same engine with manual transmission) a week ago and I am absolutely in love. Its a real bang for your buck, beats a Golf GTI in almost every way and is almost 20k Euros cheaper. Hyundai just made one of the biggest comebacks in the car industry of all time in my opinion.
the problem is fuel consumption which is properly horrible
@@kubek555 around 26 MPG
@@kubek555 26mpg is not horrible at all for a performance based car..
the engine wears like the others, dct issues too. vw is crap as well
@@pppcorn Well every Hyundai comes with a 5 year warranty . Also from what I've heard these cars are very solid.
I just bought the exact same car three weeks ago. Same color and everything. I love it!
I am fascinated that The Elantra N can be either sedate commuter or fire breathing. The N is more luxurious and day to day comfy. The Type R is performance focused at its core.
Tedward, I hope that your Type R did not get jealous.
You can say the type r’s interior is pretty luxurious. Best seats on the market, alcantara everywhere, barely any cheap hard plastics, etc.
Love how unbiased you are considering you have a type r🦕🦕
I’ve got a 2021 Veloster N and love it so much. For what it is, it’s a fantastic car.
i saw this in person for the first time today. the blue color is beautiful and it sounds amazing. I'm so glad that there are more cars in this segment now
You haven't even felt the high boost setting in Elantra where you drive it for 10 mins going 65 and it gives you more boost, and that makes this even faster. It's in the manual booklet of the car, you can read it, it's called octane learning. Great video brother! Enjoyed it and was looking forward for you to drive this one! And I'm not upset that you didn't know about the Octane learning, I understand that its not your car, I'm just saying, if you think it's quick with 15psi, you haven't felt it with more boost after the car recognises that you're using high octane fuel!! Great video!!
I really dislike gimmicks like the button that engages high boost. It should always have it.
@@TedwardDrives I’m pretty sure they have it so they can keep the 100K mile warranty without people blowing up their engines. Still a lil temperamental engine. If they could get away with it, they would.
@@TedwardDrives Not a gimmic really. The ECU just has to learn what octane you have so it doesn’t blow up. My kona N does it too
@@EyeDoctorJoe yeah right,it would blow up because of pump gas minor difference
@@TedwardDrives by default the car does 15psi, what hes talking about with octane learning is after you drive it for a while it will sense you're using higher fuel albeit 93+ and it may give you 16+ psi people have seen 19-20psi that will give you more than the 276hp on paper spec... the NGS button is totally different in which it will give you +10hp for a short amount of time or rather an insta sport+ to give you passing power then back to your eco/normal mode if you use it for that, there is a cool down for it so you can use it again later and when temps are lower, once you tune it and such it does become kinda useless button. One thing to add is under N Custom you can dial down steering and suspension if you dont want it as stiff yet still responsive along with less bouncing in your seat.
Always love watching tedward for my car reviews. Always concise. A cool fact I would like to tell is that the Elantra N has been found to be massively underrated in power! Dynos have found that it makes 276 hp to the WHEELS! Makes it a much better Type R comp no?
I mean the type r is also underrated lol
@@ShaiyanHossain no its not wtf are you talking about if anything the type r is overrated by a lot of people
@@gotworc im talking about power. Type R is said to makw 300hp. Its making that at the wheels
Honestly not surprising with the way BMW underrates their cars.
I recently just cancelled my M2 purchase in favor of saving some money (given the consistent financial doom) and went Kona N.....and I DO NOT regret it.
While the M2 is a tremendous machine, and well worth the money, the amount of value that Hyundai packs into their N cars is immense. They are callbacks to the spicy hot hatches of old, and come in at a great price point. Couldn't be happier.
Another BANGER from Tedward.
How has the Kona N been after owning it for a bit? Any issues?
We definitely know the Type R is better, but I don't think it's $10k+ better
Says you 😂 $10k less and the only thing I see worse is dealing with the dealerships. Around Same hp and sounds better too…
EXACTLY
Type R is TRASH😊
More like $30,000. I got my brand new DCT N for 33,500. A type R out the door will be 60k now.
If you upgraded the brakes, got a tune and made some suspension tweaks it would cost $10k. I think the Elantra looks better and has enough performance for me though.
Love the drive. I bought one of these at the end of January and I couldn't agree more. It is a very enjoyable and engaging car to drive. Even without the manual transmission. It was a nice replacement for my Focus ST.
I like these. They are a little bit of a sleeper. The price to performance ratio is quite good!
they dont' look too sleeper, they looked riced imo, even thought it is not riced
Sonata n is the real sleeper
When on the power, you get German/American muscle (instead of Japanese hot-hatch vibes). Amazing that Bierman didn't require generations of development. EN is as special as GR Corolla and we have to thank the old-school passion that brought it to us. Type-R and GR86 is more of the same, while Supra is a better manufactured and tuned BMW.
Thanks for saying that this car and type are different. They definitely have different characteristics. I’m glad there’s a boy racer car like this. The industry needs it.
My solemn opinion is that this is a great car
So long as hyundai has figured out their direct injection stuff and this thing won't brick in 40k miles
Serious props to Hyundai! I was driving in the canyons this morning with my Cayman and this dude had no problem on broad sweeping turns i had to push my car a little to catch up to him and i was like, holy smokes that an Elantra??!!! Congrats on the new whip!
It’s amazing how far Hyundai has come in a rather short time. There was a time when there’s no way in hell that I would want one. Hopefully they will put out a real 2 door sports car with a real manual transmission.
Let’s be honest if one is not biased against Hyundai, this Elantra type N hands down is a better overall car than any of its competitors including the civic type r
not reliability wise
@@static7985 there can be reliability issues with any car depending if you get lucky or not. Tbh almost no one keeps these cars more than five years anyways
Will be buying this with new look for 2024 version. Been eyeing on this for about 2 years!
What color are you getting?
I'm between this and the 24 G70 😁
@@porfiriato84 Probably Cyber Grey. G70 looks amazing too. My friend has it and definitely a luxury looking car.
I had one (Now in a WRX). I LOVED this car. The sound is 80% of the experience and it makes it such a blast. It is quick, loud and rowdy. I would've gotten another one (Performance Blue) but the insurance people robbed me and I barely got enough to cover the loss.
You had one but got rid of it after a year? Also what did the insurance people do to rob you?
Sounds like it was a total loss and the insurance company paid him out, but screwed him over with settlement.
😢Gap insurance is key
Is there a reason you went with a wrx when replacing it?
I've been waiting for you to drive this car!!! ❤❤❤❤ always curious about what your thoughts on this were. Hope you get to drive the manual soon!!!
I’m about to do a POV drive tuned Elantra N 👀, it’s so much faster than stock. Love the review though! Keep it up.
Hyundai's have improved a lot
Just placed my order for a 2024 manual, so excited!!!!
Very impressed with this cars pops and cracks during normal driving. Cold start this sounds 100% identical to a BMW 3/4 series B48 with the exhaust valves open.
I've been waiting for this video for a while now😀.
Sure, call me cheap or poor, whatever. However, for the price point to performance I see this car as being an absolute gem! As much as I love the type R and its styling, I just CANNOT justify spending an additional 10k + more for markup for a car in which I can have a similar experience in such as the N series of cars being produced by Hyundai right now, I prefer the looks of the Veloster over the Elantra, but still it's an excellent little car! If the Type R is a 10/10 driving experience, then I'd consider the N series a 9-9.5. They're super duper fun to drive, and I've yet to meet someone who has regretted their purchases of the cars, also if you've a Veloster, they are excellent conversation pieces since they're pretty unique in their own sense.
Hyundai did a great job on the interior
Thanks for the video, considering getting one of these.
BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO DRIVE THIS!!!!!
I'm actively trying to enjoy my N DCT...Bought one 3 weeks ago after selling my GT350R hoping to have a fun daily., I had 0 expectations it would replace that car, but I still struggle to find the driving experience engaging. It's objectively a good car, but it doesn't tingle the senses like I was hoping, and I've yet to wake up and just take it out for a drive. More than likely listing it soon.
That's a shame. Why is that? Have you listed it?
@@CrystalNinja07yes, it's up for sale
@@CarsUncoveredMy gosh. I think that speaks more about your GT350R than the Elantra N. The EN is objectively one of the most fun and engaging cars on the market right now-period-so that GT350R must be a piece of seriously incredible machinery 😅
Sport + steering is way too hefty..I like to leave it on normal and everything else up. Works really well
Have u driven old mechanical steering beemers?
you can adjust the steering weight in the settings for custom n mode
As an Elantra N owner, I’ve been waiting for the day Tedward gets his hands on one 🥰
all u would need is tune this is awsome as is for price
Exhaust sounds great
I swear I was thinking about this car yesterday...
More like 15k to 20k off since the type R is 5 to 10k over msrp. ❤️. Elantra N wins this match all day.
youre a savage. wearing a hoodie on a cold weather and ac is on.
Such a fun car! I ended up trading mine for a CTR, but you really can't go wrong w either, depending on your budget
One of my favorite cost cuts in this car is that they didn't even include a 60/40 split folding rear seat. The backrest for all three seats folds down at once, so all the rear seats cannot be used if you need to haul a long item. Of course, you've got the bracing to reckon with anyway, but it's still a funny detail to me
now theres a deep cut I missed!
You will have to do the 6-speed review and include it there!
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the JCW clubman. It's their last year and I rarely hear about it but I feel it can be a good competitor.
love my kona N, it’s honestly more fun to drive than the EN sometimes lol
I actually think I prefer the Kona as well
I'm so tempted by these because they basically have everything I would want out of the box, with no mods. But Hyundai reliability scares me, I have 2 friends with Veloster N's that have had catastrophic engine failure, and that makes me nervous. Still have a bad taste in my mouth from being a mechanic and seeing countless GDI engines grenade themselves.
Yuppp they also have oil dilution problems or at least did with their direct injection
every car is gnna have somthing my bbuddy had evo x with 20k miles stock and it blew but 4b11 is great motor elentra n is good car reliable
I might actually get the hyundai, i've been considering between both of these but I think i'm going to stay loyal to hyundai and get the 2023 Elantra N this year.
You won't regret it
That GTI was probably flooring it as the Elantra N casually passed it.
In the manual it does state a 600 mile brake in period is necessary
was waiting for your take on it
Love my EN! More room than my Challenger had, and in a smaller package 🤯
Great content! Just got a new subscriber😎
It’s interesting that you mentioned it as a budget bmw at the end because thats what i was comparing it to. I am looking at e92 and f82 as a next step after my s550 gt, but hearing anecdotally that hpde is covered under warranty for this car, it might be worth sacrificing the sound and aesthetic in the name of an affordable seat time/daily driver. Im nervous that it wont be as much fun to daily as my s550 so i suppose ill have to find one to rent or something. Cheers!
If Hyundai didn't have extremely atrocious dealerships near me and I had a local shop that specialized in Hyundais, I would consider this car.
You can like.... Drive further for one? Don't be lazy
Everything about the Elantra N is so cool except for the way it looks 😭😭
amazing car
DCTs NEED to be offered with cars like this.. Honda and Ford both majorly missed the mark refusing to do so
Hyundai has come a LOOOONG way since the Tiburan and the old Veloster.
Way to many options to adjust everything I just got my elNTRA N. 5 days still figuring out new things. Mind ya I haven't opened a manual yet. Just playing with it. I love the car. Draws the right amount of attention. Can sorta blend in. My fist auto car. I love this transmission.
Elantra N DCT > Type R 👌
Hey Tedward, how's the ride on these things, pretty rough or tolerable?
DCT for the commuters
Manual for the driving enthusiasts
Great vid! I still don't know why the $40K+ Genesis G70 base engine is also a 2.0L turbo, but makes much less power than the Elantra N.
Maybe it's tuned for smoothness. It's not a racecar
@@kingsamvisuals Don't totally disagree, but in CR's test it was almost 8 seconds 0-60. I know that test isn't the most important but it's competitors do much better in that price range.
I agree that it should be more powerful but the interiors in the g70’s are insanely nice
It’s a different engine entirely
It certainly gets along 🍻
Seems like the '24 model will have a more subdued front end which would help it's looks. I might just get me a 24 DCT even though I'm a manual guy
I wouldn't be surprised if they skip a model year with the N. happens quite often when there's a refresh.
@@imafartudownwait what are you talking about? They're not skipping anything.
Literally was torn between the 22 volester n and 22 wrx. I realized the elantra n prett6 replaced the volester but I I wish the elantra body style was a bit more reserved. Those sharp lines make it so extra. Could be a great addition to the car scene.
Does it feel light in the rear end, and does it tend to dance if you hit any bumps? This has been the bane of the Hyundai/KIA for the longest time.
lol i used to work for that dealership. these cars are great
While I have no doubt that it's a great car, Hyundai's dealer experience leaves a lot to be desired. Around where I live in Canada, Hyundai dealers are by far the worst-regarded for customer satisfaction...and you can't downplay how important that is in the overall experience of buying and running a new car. They really, desperately need corporate to come in and clean up their act.
They suck here in Southern California as well
May I ask where in Canada you live? I'm in Toronto and looking to get an N soon
@@Chr1sT0fuOut west.
The comment about the brakes was a bit of a miss. Realistically, it doesn't matter that much if you have brembo 20 piston brakes or simple 1 piston brakes, both are going to be able to provide enough force to lock up the tires and engage abs.
The difference is mainly that the type r comes with significantly wider tires. Not that brakes aren't important, but "better" brakes will be able to manage heat better, not necessarily make you brake harder. The most important part about braking is how traction limited you are with your tires. With wider tires, the type r just has more grip to work with.
In fact, the Elantra N actually comes with bigger brake rotors than the type r, with brake ducts and plenty of engineering to make their brake system track capable. The car isn't braking worse because Hyundai put less work into their brakes, even if their brakes were worse it wouldn't matter because the tires are ultimately the "bottleneck".
I would imagine Hondas tuning of the break pedal to be better though honestly
So true and well said. Not surprised by his comments though, just more of the same lack of knowledge and or understanding. Take for instance his LSD comment... N cars have eLSD which is much different and more capable than a mechanical LSD like ctr comes with. The problem is the cult followers take what these talking heads say as truth. And then spread the erroneous info as fact.
perfect getaway car, no doubt
stg if they put an i6 in the sonata N then i will fall in love even more with hyundai.
There is no Sonata N. Only N line
I know those sideroads very well (family from that town) and the road conditions are truly terrible. How would you rate the your overall comfort/soreness going through that area, knowing how stiff the Elantra N is?
No sweat. I have an Elantra N and live in the area. I do prefer to keep the custom suspension setting at normal however, sport and sport+ are too stiff for all our potholes. 😤
The seats are incredibly supportive too, and weren't subject to recall like the type R😂
This thing is legit.
wish we got these in the uk!
to be honest, i’d rather have the i20N or i30N
Find me an i30N and ill get one of these for you 😂
Should I get this or a 2020 WRX limited trim, 30k miles ($27,000)?
@@TheRealCatof Too late I bought it (wrx) lol and it's hella fun to drive
@@GrayFoxNycnot a bad choice but the Elantra is a better value still. Oh well
If the Kona N had the awd system from my cx30, I may have gone for it over my cx30. I wana drift in thr snow and on wet roads!
It would be really interesting to see you compare this in a manual to your Type R
Gonna be honest, I like the look of the Hyundai inside over the civic
Nah the infotainment area looks so cluttered.
@@BlueFL5 Well I did say that I* like the look, not that it is better
The FL5 looks so bland, I REALLY loved the FK8 interior though!
@@xXYannuschXx how does it look bland? There isn’t buttons everywhere? Lol
Its not a bad car.. Hyundai have pretty nice cars
It would be fair if you were able to give it the beans and have NGS. Rotors are larger on the EN among a few thing, you're underselling the EN's track capabilities. It is realistic to compare these before you have 15-20K markups. EN is as similar to the CTR as dissimilar but their delta is close enough you should compare them. next time I would love to see a broken in EN at full send
I'm just telling you what I felt. Definitely not underselling it at all. It's a great package. Its just not ground breaking in terms of feeling
@@TedwardDrives I haven't driven an FL5 but with the FK8 I never felt that the steering feel was all that special in the first place. I think most would agree that the Sport+ is overboosted beyond belief. I may need to drive the new CTR just to feel how special it is. Cheers 🥂
They're nice ngl Id get one in dark blue.
Makes me miss my Veloster N!
Two things that would stop me outright from getting one of these instead of a CTR:
1. Doesn't come in red (come on!)
2. The exhaust farts
As someone who's driven an old-ass car that had legit backfires, I really don't see how anyone finds the noise appealing.
You can actually turn it off lol 👌
Its marketed towards a younger audience haha, also evidenced by its raucous styling. Fwiw Type R owners are paying $2-3k for exhausts to emulate some of this noise cuz tue stock one is just too damn quiet
#1 should be…
1. It looks like a catfish
@@ShaiyanHossain I have the FK8 so I know how boring the CTR sounds 😀 I like the sound of the N (at least through my PC speakers) but no interest in the pops.
@@XAMPOL Do you have to turn down the exhaust settings wholesale to get rid of the burbles or is there a specific setting for it?
The cosmetic aspect is just not for me, but the i30N is just 👌especially a red one.
Im a honda guy through and through but if the i30N was available here id have one already
@@ShaiyanHossain same here, i20N gets produced here in Turkey, but i30N didnt make it here. I would buy one without a second thought
Amazing cute spicy Hyundai :3 woohoo ❤
Where were you driving this? That's a nice ribbon.
Watching now. Hey that's where u got the Si,ofc...at HONDA lol
I like it a lot 👏👏👏
Nice ! Thanks for sharing. I just wanted to beat type R .. more horses power pls hondai
I'm torn between this and the GR86🫠
I haven't driven the GR86 yet, but for the EN...in N mode its pure ecstacy, and in Normal mode it calms down so severely that the only thing really betraying its aggressiveness is the suspension
Car in USA are cheaper you are lucky here a Type R is 55k€
This Elantra 35k$ is about 33k€ ! For this price here you get a base model golf 8 tsi 110hp 😂
Struggling between this and a new GLI. Both are within my budget. I kind of like the styling of the exterior and the interior better on the GLI but I know this Elantra N has it been performance-wise at least on paper. And it sounds fantastic! I would be getting the dual clutch in either one. Anyone have experienced driving both or have any opinions on this? It's a tough decision
I have 2022 gli and honestly I’m thinking abt getting rid of it for this. I know vw does better interiors but as far as sound, performance, and even exterior goes the EN just kind of does it for me personally
currently have a 21 6 speed gli and im planning on getting either an elantra n or kona n. I love my gli buy got tired of driving stick in traffic. If you want a more mature car go for the gli, if you want something more performance oriented get the elantra.
Did you like it better than wrx 23 with manual
EN is faster stock, but the WRX is much better for a long term use (more reliable). WRX AWD vs EN FWD.
A stage 1 WRX gaps the EN, still being more reliable, so, if you can, go for the Subaru, overall better and still, super fun.
You actually should have got it in a manual. Comparing to the FL/5 Honda Civic.