@@zavthe1371 They will most certainly do Red Goblin in the 3rd game. If you don't know, that's Green Goblin with the Carnage symbiote. He has been a big thing since 2018.
That was one hell of a twist for sure. Up to this point in the game i was like "who on Earth even is this dude, why is he in this story?" And then BAM, it's Carnage. WOW.
The spirals, the whole Cultist angle... If we take in all the Knull references during the main plot, this gives me HEAVY King in Black Vibes. Carnage as a Knull Cultist is comin
@@MrKaiju-sr8wuyour prolly right, but who knows a peice of venom was still inside Peter even after losing the suit. Who knows if the big guy left something behind again your prolly right but who knows.
@@RoboghostYT Yeah, that was my thought - reminants of the symbiote survive inside Harry. The reason he's in the coma could be because his mind is resisting the weakened symbiote's attempts to regain control and restart it's plan. If I'm right about that, I guess Carnage would revive Venom, either in the DLC, a spin-off game or Spider-Man 3.
This reveal was masterful, I don’t know if there was dialogue addressing his name but if there was I wasn’t paying attention, but as soon as I saw him next to the symbiote I was like “Ayo this guys kind of looks like cassidy” and then his lines after just gave me goosebumps
He's definitely a variant of him. His real name may or may not be Cletus Kasady but he's clearly an adaptation of the character so his actual given name isn't that important.
@@guy3g559 Geez, bit of an overreaction much, don't be a jerk about it. I just said it's obviously him but the game is implying he might not go by the usual civilian name.
if you thought venom was strong, just remember that carnage is the offspring of venom, and the offspring of a symbiote is much stronger than the parent. cant wait to see what they do with carnage, and hopefully venom comes back too
Spidey and Miles are not gonna be able to take down Carnage on their own. They are seriously gonna need Venom to help them with Eddie Brock as his host this time, since Eddie is the only one who can get really close to Cletus. Just like in the movie of Let There Be Carnage
@@23Raind yeah good point venom in the game is way stronger than in the movies or comics (depends on which comics u read tho) but if carnage wasnt stronger than venom then I'm not too sure how big of a threat he would be, maybe hes going to try and reconnect to the hivemind and venom is going to team up with the spider men to stop him
@@Zzzodiackillerrrmost marvel characters don’t care, but unless bloodlusted (and even bloodlusted really) spider-mans no killing rule is about as strict as Batmans
@@Bigtwinkissac209video game or not the movies are poorly written,especially No way home.compared to that the game's story is a masterpiece. But obviously game story isn't for the big screen but marvel can atleast take some cues.Hope the next trilogy gets a competent direction.
I’m surprised nobody’s talking about how fantastic and bone-chilling Cletus’ dialogue is! I just think they kinda… nerfed Peter in this game. He gets saved like ten times :/
he is genuinly very scary and intimidating. he is clearly insane... but there is sanity to his insanity. he is corrupted by something... but still has wisdom. he is a perfect balance between unhinged and calculating... which makes this itteration of him arguable the most fearsome. I would go as far to say that, now with the symbiote... he might genuinly be the most dangerous and most difficult to take down out of all the spider-man villains we have seen so far and possibly even of all spider-man characters (obviously not counting those we can literally break reality etc)
Its about time someone did something different with Carnage. Making Cletus Kassidy the leader of a nihilistic death cult is both inspired and very fitting. Makes him more than just your run of the mill serial killer. He's now a mad prophet who seeks to bring about the end times with the help of the Symbiotes. I can't wait to see him in the next game.
Really sounds like the dumbest take ever. Just goes to shows how some people should not wrote comics and sick to their own head cannon and fan fiction. Imagine once again in comics another nut case wacko leader of a cult. Now imagine in RL how people talk about some cults. Worst take ever.
@@Googleisstupid-sk3hm EVERYBODY knows cults are bad, but there are still people who do believe in cults. what the fuck is your point?????????????????????????????????????????
Shame that Woody got held back by a bad script. Dude's a phenomenal actor and would've totally made a perfect, older Carnage had it not been for the Writers..
@@realbluestar2846 I feel like "a Joke" is an overstatement. He was definitely a threat in the film and they certainly did a pretty cool adaptation of the character for what it was supposed to be. Though I think the problems from Carnage mostly stem with Cletus' connection to Shriek and how he genuinely seems to care for her, which just doesn't seem like something Cletus has ever been capable of when concerning his comic book counterpart. Which is the reason I say that the writing really held back Woody's performance in this film, because he seemed like a really good pick for an older Kassidy, but the writing just didn't get his character down right. Kinda like what they did in Spider-Man 3 with Venom. Where he had the essentials of despising Spider-Man, but they felt unjust and he did so more out of jealousy rather than revenge. Kinda making Brock seem more like a whiney Toddler than anything. Essentially what I'm saying is that (imo) they got the essence of Carnage down "fairly" well and I actually really like the design of the character in this film. Though they completely miswrote Cletus' character
If anything it’s that Cletus feels like a Far Cry villain than anything else, the way he interacts with Peter is very similar to FC games and especially that last scene where he douses Peter with gasoline and lights it up, that same thing happened between Vaas and Jason in Far Cry 3. Can’t wait to see where Insomniac Games goes with Cletus/Carnage
Yea for a bit I thought they were gonna do a similar thing with Venom and have a different guy be Carnage but when I realized it was actually Cletus himself I lost my shit
@@sideways_chip_eater6420harry becoming venom is ok But cletus should be the only carnage There’s a select few spiderman villains who’s fcked up and twisted as cletus is
@@eldeuls1237 Nah I disagree. If anyone other than Eddie can be venom, it’s the same logic for carnage. Their rivalry in the comics is too good to permanently replace either host.
I didnt think this was Cletus at first. Cause Im looking at the symbiote like, okay, so some Venom got loose, then i noticed the blood on his hand must of got into the canister, turned it red and my jaw dropped. Great twist Insomniac. You got me there. Better reveal then the Venom movie.
Leave Harry reborn as Anti-Venom (overall agent symbiote form when it comes to suit changes). Carnage could mean Monster Ock & Red Goblin since Green Goblin/Norman & Doc Ock will be there soon. The same goes for Knull & Dracula could mean needs Midnight Sons (Morbius included) & Captain Universe. Though I’m still unsure if Insomniac & Marvel have plans to integrate the classic Venom/Eddie we knew to Insomniac universe.
@@delinseurnI don't think they would do venom as the main villain for the second game and then Carnage is the main villain for the third game That's a lot of symbiote Carnage doesn't have as much interesting plot to work with He's very much more DLC or side character I mean from a strength level yeah he's obviously stronger than venom but him being stronger doesn't necessarily make him a more interesting character to do plot points with especially when they've already explored most of the stuff that's interesting about symbiotes
@@The_MEMEphis you do realiize that they can introduce knull right?? like there is loads of intersting stuff they can do wiht symbiotes, they definitely didn't explore everything
@@thejeeves985 I highly highly doubt they're going to be doing knull considering they already set up Green goblin for the next game that would take up way too much time and they already did the whole hive mind thing with venom doing no would take way too long and it's such a big concept to even cover
They’re more then likely doing hell goblin. Seeing this is a special blend of the comics and a few comics at that. Carnage is more the one who possesses on mass and he possesses the villains in most iterations giving them their most badass incarnation. So I’m thinking we can look forward to a carnage/symbiote possessed sinister six as the final installment.
And seeing this game introduced the real dark side, blood and gore to this game’s verse; it’s guaranteed people good and evil alike are going to die. It’ll probably be the usuals with a sprinkle of a few others who don’t typically die. If venom killed a couple main characters, carnage is going to kill several. It’s sorta really the only way to stay in line with the verse progression now as well.
Part of me feels that Carnage should be a full dlc to keep the symbiote story wrapped up, another part of me thinks that Carnage is big enough to be a main villian in a third game
Main villain of the 3rd game cannot not be The Green Goblin. Too iconic it will be amazing. This set it up very well to the point where the DLC for this game can just be absolutely amazing just like the main story was.
5:22 we see the symbiote starts off as black but once it sees and feels the energy that Cletus gives off it starts to change red and excited when he says CARNAGE
At the start it's black ⚫️ because the symbiote doesn't know what kind of things he does yet , but when Cletus says "Carnage" the symbiote now knows he is a serial killer and it turns red. Also it turns red at 5:30.
When I First Saw This... I Was Like Damn This Is Sick... I Didn't Even Think About Him Becoming Carnage Until He Revealed His Plans To Spider-Man... That Was Awesome 👍
@@Crimson.-.it only makes sense though. A 3-part DLC storyline will make money like last time. This 2nd game already focused on symbiotes so having it again won’t be the same. Best to close off this game with Carnage, then have it devolve back to Venom for them to reuse in the future. Carnage is more limited than Venom for sure.
Well I mean it guarantees we're going to see Carnage at some point I don't know why they would specifically say Carnage and have Cassidy in the game if they're not going to do Carnage
We will probably see it like a Spinoff (Like the Miles Morales game). Carnage too big to be mere DLC and it seems Goblin will be the main villain for Spider-Man 3
I think this version of venom got much more strength with the meteorite, maybe almost as his king in black version, but carnage would definitely be more wreck
Just got the Platinum Trophy and man this game was an absolute love letter to Spiderman and I can’t believe there’s still more to come! Green Goblin is coming! Doc Ock is preparing for revenge! Kletus becoming Carnage somehow. Cindy Moon potentially as Silk! A potential appearance from Miguel/Spiderman 2099! Let’s hope they knock it out of the park just like this one!
I just got the final scene with Cletus. When he pulled the symbiote out of the cargo, and it turned red... Chills. Actual. Chills. Seriously looking forward to the next game, whenever that is.
@@BCZ21”Greatest video game trilogy” is pretty subjective anyway i know there’s opinions and everything else involved but really the better trilogy series is Arkham lmao
They really nailed the Cletus design I keep thinking that his scenes were actually the actor and that it was a movie his facial expressions everything on point
Osborn has to be the main villain next game. Everything bad that happened in the Spider-Man games was a result of Norman’s actions - his experiments with Devil’s Breath led to the death of Li’s parents, leading him to become a villain hell-bent on revenge and the creation of the Sinister Six, leading to the city being attacked by them, led by Otto Octavius, yet another person who despises Osborn with a passion, and Otto’s actions caused the release of Devil’s Breath into New York, killing many people including Peter’s aunt May. This led to the creation of the second Spider Man, Miles Morales, due to Li’s terrorist act at City Hall where many were killed, including Miles’ father. Now in his pursuit to cure Harry, he had him consumed by the symbiote which drove Harry into madness as well as almost but confirming the birth of Carnage, another variant of Venom, and the birth of the Green Goblin. Norman has a lot to answer for.
Makes sense they got Cameron Monaghan to play a character whose literally inspired by the joker (Cletus Cassidy/Carnage) only way I couldn’t tell it was him was with that southern accent tho Edit: realized it’s chad Doreck, still a great performance just totally thought it was Cameron because of the ginger hair, similar build and how convincingly he plays a nut job who cracks jokes
OH S***! Venom was insanely powerful to take down, just imagine what Carnage is about to unleash in possibly the next game!? BTW I absolutely love that they cast Cameron Monaghan to play Cletus/The Flame because his performance on Gotham (TV series) is plenty of evidence that hed be a phenomenal Carnage, hopefully in the next game or a DLC.
I was hoping we’d see Carnage in this series. I also had a feeling this cult leader would turn out to be Cletus Kasady. EDIT: I think their going for a Manson Family/David Koresh vibe for this version of Kasady
I immediately knew it was Cletus when he appears in the big screen. Plus he’s known for arson and the “crimson” thing was a dead giveaway. Really cool reveal
I feel like he should be saying “The fire rises.” Also he already feels more dangerous than Venom, maybe it’s the music and dialogue. It’s not just “I’m sick and remember when we were friends Pete?” He has a Joker feel of I’m just coming back to tear things apart. Not to mention in the comics Carnage always seemed more wild with the symbiotic blades and everything.
Honestly, Silk seems unlikely. I think Cindy will just be Miles’s stepsister and figure out his identity, and I prefer that route because how in the world would she get spider powers? Plus, adding a third spider-hero protagonist would be too much
i honestly feel so stupid for not realizing that guy was cletus kasady as soon as his face showed up and needed to wait until he said carnage to realize it
6:00 -- After going back to this game, and getting a few more trophies on my playthrough, I love how the Devs did Cletus's shirt right here. Definitely helps show how he is Carnage.
So that man who was the leader of the Flame was Cletus Kasady the Carnage's famous host well that means we might see Carnage and Norman Osbourne's Green Goblin as the villains in the 3rd game or something.
But Venom has like multiple meteorites to make him ridiculously powerful… still I’d love to see how they handle Carnage (and it probably won’t disappoint)
The best part in my opinion is that I was under the impression that they were setting up Molten Man, hence the missions being called, "The Flame". As soon as he started talking about the symbiote though, my jaw dropped!
Yo if Carnage being in this, I may think of something in my mind, there might be a terrifying boss to bring back, and it’s with Carnage and Doc Ock making it Carnage Doc Ock, bringing back 2000s nostalgia
Through the game I thought this was going to lead to a fight with molten man, but when I saw the symbiote my jaw dropped, Carnage is my favorite spiderman villain and I can't wait to see what Insomniac does with him
I know it's unlikely considering this game is called "SPIDER-MAN" but having a DLC that has you use wraith for the continuation of this story would be pretty sweet
I hope the next game remembers this side quest and has him return as carnage (not as the main villain. But secondary antagonist along side Norman and Otto)
As someone who's favorite villain of all time is Carnage, I really hope that he is just Dlc for this game and doesn't play a big role in the next. If he's part of the Sinister 6, that's fine. But, I don't want 2 big symbiote games in a row. I think that would be too much.
Yeah I'm guessing he's either going to be a dlc boss in spiderman 2 or 3 but who knows, maybe Green goblin will get the Li treatment and be a secondary antagonist
@@quantis1280 I have which is specifically the reason why I want Green Goblin and Carnage as the two main villains in the next game. But after seeing him as a dlc villain it’s highly unlikely. We’ll have to see after the dlc comes out.
@@greaserat4126 Well they’ve been building up the Green Goblin for two games now, so he will definitely be the main villain in the 3rd. However, what I didn’t like about the post credits is doc ocks involvement again, like just leave him out.
@@orangemochacino6420 I dont believe any official source confirmed he would be a dlc only character but even then I don’t see it becoming a problem. First a Venom led DLC where we play Venom again going against Carnage and leaving him for dead, but in the third we could have Norman find Carnage unconscious and emprison him, thinking he can use the symbiote for his revenge against Spidey. Worst case scenario you’re right and I wouldn’t even mind, because if Carnage does only have one future appearance, in DLC or spin-off, they’ll make him as good as can be. And Green Goblin is still a sick villain by himself.
I honestly wondered who this Flame cult leader guy could've possibly been, back when I first played his side mission story. Around 5:26 - 5:45, though, if not a bit sooner, is when I realized, "Oh, my God... So, THAT is who he REALLY is!"
you know what makes this even more shocking? MAYBE you noticed this, but after you do the last Flame mission, Wraith mentions his names. She mentions CLETUS KASADY.
Green Goblin absolutely is in the next game, the way the main story ends hints at it. I dunno about Eddie Brock, but I imagine whenever Carnage shows up next, Venom will also - potentially a Venom game?
Insomniac: please bring Venom back in the future so he can whoop this psycho's ass! We neeeeed a Venom vs. Carnage fight! Also, A+ on the perfect casting on Cameron Monaghan as Cletus Kasady. EDIT: It's not Cameron Monaghan.
Agreed! Would love to see a Venom and both Spidermen team up. Also, did they actually cast Cameron Monaghan as Cletus Cassidy in this game? Because him as Carnage has always been a popular fancast and I wasn't sure if it was him in the game?
We need Eddie Brock first so Venom can become an ally who still doesn’t like Spidey but he would be willing to team up so they can fight Carnage. Venom will still be an anti hero but is good enough to team up with Spidey with Eddie’s help
The moment he went for the symbiote, part of me was like "wait a second..." And then he began his line about the crimson hour and I immediately knew he was about to say Carnage and I got so hyped. This substory better come back.
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Considering how much of a threat Venom was, Carnage is gonna take that to the extreme
@@RD-dt7ushe will be minor just like Wraith was lol
@@RD-dt7usbro, you must not know insomniac.
hes gonna be side story in a dlc. the next game is green goblin and doc oc
that would be a short game with just two villains. i doubt he'll be a side story. its the carnage, bro is far worst than venom. @@zavthe1371
@@zavthe1371 They will most certainly do Red Goblin in the 3rd game. If you don't know, that's Green Goblin with the Carnage symbiote. He has been a big thing since 2018.
That was one hell of a twist for sure. Up to this point in the game i was like "who on Earth even is this dude, why is he in this story?" And then BAM, it's Carnage. WOW.
I started to question as soon as I saw he was a redhead, plus he had a drawing in his base with demon depictions resembling Carnage.
The spirals, the whole Cultist angle...
If we take in all the Knull references during the main plot, this gives me HEAVY King in Black Vibes. Carnage as a Knull Cultist is comin
like a Cthullu cultist?
@@Mugen2024
Kinda?
I had my hunch when I saw a redheaded guy but I KNEW it was Carnage when I saw the drawing of a red symbiote monster
I love the touch of his blood mixing with the symbiote giving it the iconic red color.
Ok
Yep same thing with 90’s cartoon except it was peter’s
Didn't realize that's why it turned red. Thanks for the info.
God bless everyone.
I hope that Carnage is introduced properly and Venom is brought back as either DLC or a spin-off game like they did with Miles Morales.
I doubt that, the venom symbiote was pretty clearly destroyed in the finale
@MrKaiju-sr8wu is it...
@@MrKaiju-sr8wuyour prolly right, but who knows a peice of venom was still inside Peter even after losing the suit. Who knows if the big guy left something behind again your prolly right but who knows.
@@RoboghostYT Yeah, that was my thought - reminants of the symbiote survive inside Harry. The reason he's in the coma could be because his mind is resisting the weakened symbiote's attempts to regain control and restart it's plan. If I'm right about that, I guess Carnage would revive Venom, either in the DLC, a spin-off game or Spider-Man 3.
@@theoutcastboiyou’re both wrong. Kraven cut off a piece of Venoms tongue, a piece that even moves around on the ground in his fight. Venom can return
This reveal was masterful, I don’t know if there was dialogue addressing his name but if there was I wasn’t paying attention, but as soon as I saw him next to the symbiote I was like “Ayo this guys kind of looks like cassidy” and then his lines after just gave me goosebumps
Yuri mentions that he had multiple aliases, and one of them was Cletus Cassidy. This happens after you finish the mission in a phone call
He's definitely a variant of him. His real name may or may not be Cletus Kasady but he's clearly an adaptation of the character so his actual given name isn't that important.
@@Dalton_Boardman2000no it's him and now Stfu
@@guy3g559 Geez, bit of an overreaction much, don't be a jerk about it. I just said it's obviously him but the game is implying he might not go by the usual civilian name.
When i saw The Flame for the first time i said to myself he looks and acts like Cletus but it probably isn’t and well it was him lol
if you thought venom was strong, just remember that carnage is the offspring of venom, and the offspring of a symbiote is much stronger than the parent. cant wait to see what they do with carnage, and hopefully venom comes back too
Spidey and Miles are not gonna be able to take down Carnage on their own. They are seriously gonna need Venom to help them with Eddie Brock as his host this time, since Eddie is the only one who can get really close to Cletus. Just like in the movie of Let There Be Carnage
@@josearielortiz2055 facts, im surprised we didnt see at least a little bit of eddie in the game, maybe in a dlc tho
@@josearielortiz2055silk might help
And to think venom is considered the weakest of the original symbiotes.
@@23Raind yeah good point venom in the game is way stronger than in the movies or comics (depends on which comics u read tho) but if carnage wasnt stronger than venom then I'm not too sure how big of a threat he would be, maybe hes going to try and reconnect to the hivemind and venom is going to team up with the spider men to stop him
Lol honestly if Peter knew what Cletus was capable of he probably would’ve just left and let Yuri do her thing and pretend he never saw 😂😭
Wait till carnage eats baby lmaoo
@mattj7607 most iterations yeah. Lol Marvels a little more lenient with their heroes killing villains than Dc is
@@Zzzodiackillerrrmost marvel characters don’t care, but unless bloodlusted (and even bloodlusted really) spider-mans no killing rule is about as strict as Batmans
@@Grizz.EditzYT spiderman daredevil and post war captain america are the only ones that actually try not to 💀
No he wouldn't...
lol this trilogy will do what no movie could ever done before then... This is legendary.
bro? are you honestly comparing a video game and a movie
@@Bigtwinkissac209video game or not the movies are poorly written,especially No way home.compared to that the game's story is a masterpiece. But obviously game story isn't for the big screen but marvel can atleast take some cues.Hope the next trilogy gets a competent direction.
You gotta be like 12 cause these games are not great lol
@@RelxpseGamesit is great
We might not even have to wait for part 3 but for a really cool DLC...
"And when the Crimson Hour rolls over this earth, it shall bring Truth, Judgement... and _Carnage_ ."
"So that's it? What, we some kinda... _Suicide_ _Squad_ ?"
@@odatnarat14UMMM YURI IS A HUMAN RIGHT, SO HOW TF IS SHE MOVING LIKE THAT
@@cutiepie6796Best guess, probably some form of enchantments. Like something similar to the super soldier serum
@@lukareinitz9492 AND WTF DID SHE FIND THAT AT..... DID SHE GET IT FROM BULLSH** R RUS
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I’m surprised nobody’s talking about how fantastic and bone-chilling Cletus’ dialogue is!
I just think they kinda… nerfed Peter in this game. He gets saved like ten times :/
he is genuinly very scary and intimidating. he is clearly insane... but there is sanity to his insanity. he is corrupted by something... but still has wisdom. he is a perfect balance between unhinged and calculating... which makes this itteration of him arguable the most fearsome. I would go as far to say that, now with the symbiote... he might genuinly be the most dangerous and most difficult to take down out of all the spider-man villains we have seen so far and possibly even of all spider-man characters (obviously not counting those we can literally break reality etc)
@@Lusius8879no he’s just fucking crazy
@CasualCat54you have horrible media literacy
Nah he's a lower end father seed
@CasualCat54 yet ur the one crying spidey got beat by a human 🤣
I had no idea that was carnage. I thought it was some made up cult leader for the game. This game just keeps getting better
Its about time someone did something different with Carnage. Making Cletus Kassidy the leader of a nihilistic death cult is both inspired and very fitting. Makes him more than just your run of the mill serial killer. He's now a mad prophet who seeks to bring about the end times with the help of the Symbiotes. I can't wait to see him in the next game.
Really sounds like the dumbest take ever. Just goes to shows how some people should not wrote comics and sick to their own head cannon and fan fiction.
Imagine once again in comics another nut case wacko leader of a cult. Now imagine in RL how people talk about some cults. Worst take ever.
@@Googleisstupid-sk3hm You call and good take terrible but then go on to say nothing of importance.
@@Googleisstupid-sk3hm EVERYBODY knows cults are bad, but there are still people who do believe in cults. what the fuck is your point?????????????????????????????????????????
@@Googleisstupid-sk3hmit's ok to be happy bro. Like it's free too 😂
@@Googleisstupid-sk3hmyou do realize Carnage had a cult in the comics right?
This is what I was hoping Woody Harrelson's Carnage would have been like.
Shame that Woody got held back by a bad script. Dude's a phenomenal actor and would've totally made a perfect, older Carnage had it not been for the Writers..
At last I see people agreeing with Carnage being a joke in that movie.
@@realbluestar2846 I feel like "a Joke" is an overstatement. He was definitely a threat in the film and they certainly did a pretty cool adaptation of the character for what it was supposed to be.
Though I think the problems from Carnage mostly stem with Cletus' connection to Shriek and how he genuinely seems to care for her, which just doesn't seem like something Cletus has ever been capable of when concerning his comic book counterpart.
Which is the reason I say that the writing really held back Woody's performance in this film, because he seemed like a really good pick for an older Kassidy, but the writing just didn't get his character down right. Kinda like what they did in Spider-Man 3 with Venom. Where he had the essentials of despising Spider-Man, but they felt unjust and he did so more out of jealousy rather than revenge. Kinda making Brock seem more like a whiney Toddler than anything.
Essentially what I'm saying is that (imo) they got the essence of Carnage down "fairly" well and I actually really like the design of the character in this film. Though they completely miswrote Cletus' character
On god that fight should've been longer and cleetus should've lived same with carnage but no they gotta kill the bad guy like always
@@ThePickler4567at least he made toxin before dying lol
This is by far the biggest surprise in this whole game. I literally did not see this coming.
If anything it’s that Cletus feels like a Far Cry villain than anything else, the way he interacts with Peter is very similar to FC games and especially that last scene where he douses Peter with gasoline and lights it up, that same thing happened between Vaas and Jason in Far Cry 3. Can’t wait to see where Insomniac Games goes with Cletus/Carnage
I knew it reminded me of something!
Realising this guy was Cassidy was such an awesome moment
Yea for a bit I thought they were gonna do a similar thing with Venom and have a different guy be Carnage but when I realized it was actually Cletus himself I lost my shit
@@sideways_chip_eater6420harry becoming venom is ok
But cletus should be the only carnage
There’s a select few spiderman villains who’s fcked up and twisted as cletus is
@@eldeuls1237 Nah I disagree. If anyone other than Eddie can be venom, it’s the same logic for carnage. Their rivalry in the comics is too good to permanently replace either host.
I didnt think this was Cletus at first. Cause Im looking at the symbiote like, okay, so some Venom got loose, then i noticed the blood on his hand must of got into the canister, turned it red and my jaw dropped. Great twist Insomniac. You got me there. Better reveal then the Venom movie.
Now think how dangerous Venom was in the game... Just imagine what Insomniac does with Carnage... We're all gonna die.
Unless Venom (this time with Eddie Brock) steps in to help Spidey and Miles and, we’ll have a hell of a show
Imagine what happens if we get Knull, the King in Black himself. Probably gonna take a whole super army to stall him until enigma force shows up
@@josearielortiz2055the symbiote was destroyed endgame
@@raredays2767 They teased Carnage for the next game, they’re gonna need the symbiote back to life somehow to fight him.
@@josearielortiz2055 welp idk how they’re gonna do it but venom ain’t coming back
Carnage will be legendary in the next game.
Dlc
@@pancake7366nah
hate to tell you this, but carnage won't be the main villain. it'll likely be green goblin. tho he will be in the game as a villain.
@@themadtitan8408 easily could be a 2.5
Carnage will most likely be dlc for this game since the side missions in the first game set up the dlc stories
Otto is back, Harry will become goblin, and now carnage! For the final Chapter!
I would prefer if Norman becomes Goblin
Cindy mokn as well-hopefully we will see a playable Silk
*norman AND three spidermen
Leave Harry reborn as Anti-Venom (overall agent symbiote form when it comes to suit changes). Carnage could mean Monster Ock & Red Goblin since Green Goblin/Norman & Doc Ock will be there soon. The same goes for Knull & Dracula could mean needs Midnight Sons (Morbius included) & Captain Universe.
Though I’m still unsure if Insomniac & Marvel have plans to integrate the classic Venom/Eddie we knew to Insomniac universe.
Will the sinister six king pin return in the 3rd game
This has the potential to be the most interesting version of Carnage ever. Carnage the cult leader is something I never knew I wanted.
He had a cult in the comics
Can't wait to see how Carnage turns out possibly in a DLC or next game. I love Carnage.
same fav villian
carnage is definitely next game material
@@delinseurnI don't think they would do venom as the main villain for the second game and then Carnage is the main villain for the third game That's a lot of symbiote Carnage doesn't have as much interesting plot to work with He's very much more DLC or side character I mean from a strength level yeah he's obviously stronger than venom but him being stronger doesn't necessarily make him a more interesting character to do plot points with especially when they've already explored most of the stuff that's interesting about symbiotes
@@The_MEMEphis you do realiize that they can introduce knull right?? like there is loads of intersting stuff they can do wiht symbiotes, they definitely didn't explore everything
@@thejeeves985 I highly highly doubt they're going to be doing knull considering they already set up Green goblin for the next game that would take up way too much time and they already did the whole hive mind thing with venom doing no would take way too long and it's such a big concept to even cover
Love how the symbiote slowly turns red when The Flame holds it. Very nice detail.
Carnage next game is gonna be absolute nightmare fuel. If they don’t utilize carnage and green goblin next game imma scream
It won’t be good because it will be rated teen instead of mature
It’s most likely gonna be rated M
@@josearielortiz2055 no it won’t the last 2 weren’t what makes u think they’ll change for the 3rd
They’re more then likely doing hell goblin. Seeing this is a special blend of the comics and a few comics at that. Carnage is more the one who possesses on mass and he possesses the villains in most iterations giving them their most badass incarnation.
So I’m thinking we can look forward to a carnage/symbiote possessed sinister six as the final installment.
And seeing this game introduced the real dark side, blood and gore to this game’s verse; it’s guaranteed people good and evil alike are going to die. It’ll probably be the usuals with a sprinkle of a few others who don’t typically die.
If venom killed a couple main characters, carnage is going to kill several. It’s sorta really the only way to stay in line with the verse progression now as well.
Part of me feels that Carnage should be a full dlc to keep the symbiote story wrapped up, another part of me thinks that Carnage is big enough to be a main villian in a third game
Perhaps dlc and then red goblin as the final boss fight for the 3rd game
Main villain of the 3rd game cannot not be The Green Goblin. Too iconic it will be amazing. This set it up very well to the point where the DLC for this game can just be absolutely amazing just like the main story was.
@@BM-sg1slIs red gobli carnage?
Most charismatic villian in the Game.
5:22 we see the symbiote starts off as black but once it sees and feels the energy that Cletus gives off it starts to change red and excited when he says CARNAGE
At the start it's black ⚫️ because the symbiote doesn't know what kind of things he does yet , but when Cletus says "Carnage" the symbiote now knows he is a serial killer and it turns red. Also it turns red at 5:30.
When I First Saw This... I Was Like Damn This Is Sick... I Didn't Even Think About Him Becoming Carnage Until He Revealed His Plans To Spider-Man... That Was Awesome 👍
When did this even happen I never saw this when playing the game
@iwantmykidsbackk1376 Did You Finished The Game
@@iwantmykidsbackk1376do the flame cult side missions.
with all the flame stuff I thought he would be molten man
Otto, Green Goblin, and Carnage??? Spider-Man 3 is gonna be insane
Carnage will be the dlc for this game.
@@aviator3050u sure?
@@Maaz2360 watch bro claim he works at Insomniac or something lmao
@@Crimson.-.it only makes sense though. A 3-part DLC storyline will make money like last time. This 2nd game already focused on symbiotes so having it again won’t be the same. Best to close off this game with Carnage, then have it devolve back to Venom for them to reuse in the future. Carnage is more limited than Venom for sure.
@@Crimson.-. it's been leaked dude, Carnage will be DLC and the villain for the Venom game
I sure hope this means we'll see a Carnage in Spider-Man 3 or as a DLC. Because that would be awesome, especially after the Venom boss fight.
Well I mean it guarantees we're going to see Carnage at some point I don't know why they would specifically say Carnage and have Cassidy in the game if they're not going to do Carnage
We will probably see it like a Spinoff (Like the Miles Morales game). Carnage too big to be mere DLC and it seems Goblin will be the main villain for Spider-Man 3
@YasamaroXL carnage definitely isn't to big to be DLC lol. Venom isn't even in this game no more than like 30 minutes with cut scenes.
@@BoyDovanthe whole game is based off of venom 😂
Bro If venom is not as strong as Carnage and the only reason venom lost was because of anti venom, holy shit carnage is gonna wreck.
I think this version of venom got much more strength with the meteorite, maybe almost as his king in black version, but carnage would definitely be more wreck
@@alghifary9078 definitely
The King in black call backs are insane in this game, Now we just need to see even a tease at knull next game
@@CyberSlime98 👍
Tbf,we don't if that applies to this universe
If they can make Venom look so badass, I can only imagine what Insomniac is going to do with Carnage… oh and another go at Harry Goblin, whatever.
Norman is going to be Green Goblin not Harry
Why would it be Harry lol , he's face is just to baby ,Norman acting look's menacing i can definitely see this Norman become goblin
Did you not see the right ending or something?
Norman is going to be goblin.
@@excalibur2596 That or he's going to use the goblin serum on Harry. Could be possible
Just got the Platinum Trophy and man this game was an absolute love letter to Spiderman and I can’t believe there’s still more to come! Green Goblin is coming! Doc Ock is preparing for revenge! Kletus becoming Carnage somehow. Cindy Moon potentially as Silk! A potential appearance from Miguel/Spiderman 2099! Let’s hope they knock it out of the park just like this one!
That smile at 5:56. This is Cletus Kasady. I'm so mf'n hype for Carnage to arrive in these games.
I just got the final scene with Cletus. When he pulled the symbiote out of the cargo, and it turned red... Chills. Actual. Chills.
Seriously looking forward to the next game, whenever that is.
Me too, I have to wait until Spider-Man 2 hits the PC, though. I don´t have a PS5 yet.
Odds are it's gonna be dlc
imagine carnage the level of venom quality... he would be unstopppable
Wow. The final game will have doc ock, carnage and green goblin…
Peter’s survival rate just plummeted
It’s clear this will be THE GREATEST VIDEO GAME TRILOGY OF ALL TIME
Ask that to the Arkham Trilogy
@@alexisvelezdelgado5651 sorry pal, Spider-Man is already winning that battle
@@alexisvelezdelgado5651I love the Arkham games, but dude, the Spider-Man games are improvements in every way
Halo
@@BCZ21”Greatest video game trilogy” is pretty subjective anyway i know there’s opinions and everything else involved but really the better trilogy series is Arkham lmao
I’m freaking scared. Venom was a tough final boss in the main game. Carnage is gonna be the ultimate ass kicker.
This confirms that Carnage will definitely be introduced and that Venom could return to either fight with Spider-Man against him, or join him.
I thought they killed venom
@@sarfarazgaming121a peice of the symbiotic might’ve survived
Venom joining carnage is like spider-man joining green goblin lol
From Green Goblin, Doc Ock, to Carnage this 3rd game is going to be biblical
I think they're going to do Carnage and a DLC mile-esque like game
And even Rhino 😊
This version of Cletus Kasady is new, but it's already my favorite one, can't wait to see what Carnage will look like
So hype when I got to this part. Can only imagine what Brad's reaction is gonna be when he gets to this.
who's brad?
The more i think about it the more goosebumps i get
They really nailed the Cletus design I keep thinking that his scenes were actually the actor and that it was a movie his facial expressions everything on point
Osborn has to be the main villain next game. Everything bad that happened in the Spider-Man games was a result of Norman’s actions - his experiments with Devil’s Breath led to the death of Li’s parents, leading him to become a villain hell-bent on revenge and the creation of the Sinister Six, leading to the city being attacked by them, led by Otto Octavius, yet another person who despises Osborn with a passion, and Otto’s actions caused the release of Devil’s Breath into New York, killing many people including Peter’s aunt May. This led to the creation of the second Spider Man, Miles Morales, due to Li’s terrorist act at City Hall where many were killed, including Miles’ father. Now in his pursuit to cure Harry, he had him consumed by the symbiote which drove Harry into madness as well as almost but confirming the birth of Carnage, another variant of Venom, and the birth of the Green Goblin. Norman has a lot to answer for.
Makes sense they got Cameron Monaghan to play a character whose literally inspired by the joker (Cletus Cassidy/Carnage) only way I couldn’t tell it was him was with that southern accent tho
Edit: realized it’s chad Doreck, still a great performance just totally thought it was Cameron because of the ginger hair, similar build and how convincingly he plays a nut job who cracks jokes
I honestly could not recognize him but as you say,he was meant to play carnage
@@janevyjem8037UMMM YURI IS A HUMAN RIGHT, SO HOW TF IS SHE MOVING LIKE THAT
It’s not Cameron sadly
It’s not Cameron. The actors name is Chad Doreck
Why did people think it was cameron? Not that surprised though. Doesn't look like Cameron and he looks way older than him
this storyline was so good
OH S***! Venom was insanely powerful to take down, just imagine what Carnage is about to unleash in possibly the next game!?
BTW I absolutely love that they cast Cameron Monaghan to play Cletus/The Flame because his performance on Gotham (TV series) is plenty of evidence that hed be a phenomenal Carnage, hopefully in the next game or a DLC.
so think abt this they did part of the king in black shi here soo we gonna get that version of carnage next?😭😭😭
I heard somewhere Tony Todd is back recording more venom stuff so maybe @@okknownow
@@okknownowthat's gonna be an avengers level threat :)
The goblin finna be wild asf too
most likely a DLC boss
And this began the cult of carnage.
"You stopped trains before, right?" I loved that reference
I was hoping we’d see Carnage in this series. I also had a feeling this cult leader would turn out to be Cletus Kasady.
EDIT: I think their going for a Manson Family/David Koresh vibe for this version of Kasady
I immediately knew it was Cletus when he appears in the big screen. Plus he’s known for arson and the “crimson” thing was a dead giveaway. Really cool reveal
It flew way over my head but as soon as I saw that symbiote it clicked
I am fucking praying that we get proper Carnage, fucking scary one, come third game/dlc - please, I just want my fav boy to get a moment in spotlight.
I feel like he should be saying “The fire rises.”
Also he already feels more dangerous than Venom, maybe it’s the music and dialogue.
It’s not just “I’m sick and remember when we were friends Pete?”
He has a Joker feel of I’m just coming back to tear things apart. Not to mention in the comics Carnage always seemed more wild with the symbiotic blades and everything.
Carnage, Green Goblin and Silk coming on the next game. Shits gonna be wicked.
considering that we have Green Goblin and Carnage in the next game, so... there is a possibility of having Red Goblin as the final boss
I think it's better if Carnage was an expansion of this game, so Green Goblin can be the focus next game
@@fileocultdayzip9622it's better if he's just plain crazy goblin... no need to get too eacky with it.
Potentially Anti-Venom as well.
Honestly, Silk seems unlikely. I think Cindy will just be Miles’s stepsister and figure out his identity, and I prefer that route because how in the world would she get spider powers? Plus, adding a third spider-hero protagonist would be too much
I can't believe that's Brad from My Life as a Teenage Robot as carnage over here.
Yeah, that blew me away, almost as much as Tony Todd's Venom.
Yeah, we had Rigby and we have Brad.
Best villain reveal ive ever seen and theyre gonna do fuck all with it😂 such a shame
I FREAKED THE F*CK OUT when he said Carnage. I was so oblivious until he got the sample and did his speech
i honestly feel so stupid for not realizing that guy was cletus kasady as soon as his face showed up and needed to wait until he said carnage to realize it
YES CARNAGE IS BACK! Can’t wait to see how insomniac does my favorite marvel villain justice 🎉
I knew this guy was crazy, but I didn't think he was this universe's Cletus Kassidy.
Didn't expect this, this was awesome
6:00 -- After going back to this game, and getting a few more trophies on my playthrough, I love how the Devs did Cletus's shirt right here. Definitely helps show how he is Carnage.
I literally just finished this. A side story just to be a revelation to carnage? Carnage is my favorite villain of all time. Amazing work
Ok
So that man who was the leader of the Flame was Cletus Kasady the Carnage's famous host well that means we might see Carnage and Norman Osbourne's Green Goblin as the villains in the 3rd game or something.
Might even see red goblin
@@arno7163UMMM YURI IS A HUMAN RIGHT, SO HOW TF IS SHE MOVING LIKE THAT
5:56 that wicked smile tho
UMMM YURI IS A HUMAN RIGHT, SO HOW TF IS SHE MOVING LIKE THAT
Something she learnt
My Spider Sense is telling me that they'll be a DLC with.......Maximum Carnage
UMMM YURI IS A HUMAN RIGHT, SO HOW TF IS SHE MOVING LIKE THAT
I really hope that's the case, Carnage is one of my favorite Spidey villains, I can't wait for a third game just to see him in action lol
@@nitewrite HAVING A FAVORITE VILLAIN IN GENERAL IS SICK
@@cutiepie6796are you special no its not 😭
@@k3lluckyIT IS
The Flame could be Cletus Kasady or a relative to Cletus Kasady.
Watch until the end, it's pretty much confirmed he is Cletus
He is cletus
@them3m3l0rd8Red Goblin maybe?
@them3m3l0rd8maybe DLC
@bullyholland3241 Monster Ock too.
This is a better Carnage than Venom 2
True, making Cletus the leader of a cult was something new and innovative, almost all of us were taken by surprise by the revelation
@@matiasrodriguez7408 it made more sense than just him and his girlfriend. He has a Charles Manson like vibe in this game.
Venom was a fucking true monster in this game, I can't even imagine what Carnage is gonna be like.
But Venom has like multiple meteorites to make him ridiculously powerful… still I’d love to see how they handle Carnage (and it probably won’t disappoint)
The best part in my opinion is that I was under the impression that they were setting up Molten Man, hence the missions being called, "The Flame". As soon as he started talking about the symbiote though, my jaw dropped!
Besides the one in the 90s THIS HAS TO BE THE BEST CASSIDY YET FOR CARNAGW
I knew one day Cameron Monaghan was going to play the role as Cletus Kasady some day
Thats not cameron
@@odatnarat14 I just realized that, and I've told everyone who told me he was to check out the end credits and look at the cast to see what I mean.
It's Chad Doreck @@HieiJaganshi2024
Yo if Carnage being in this, I may think of something in my mind, there might be a terrifying boss to bring back, and it’s with Carnage and Doc Ock making it Carnage Doc Ock, bringing back 2000s nostalgia
Through the game I thought this was going to lead to a fight with molten man, but when I saw the symbiote my jaw dropped, Carnage is my favorite spiderman villain and I can't wait to see what Insomniac does with him
Hell yeah this Spiderman game really upped their game, Now "Let There be CARNAGE"
bro this spiderman is dealing with 2 dangerous aliens☠️
She just causally rammed a truck into a train to save Pete???😂😂
I know it's unlikely considering this game is called "SPIDER-MAN" but having a DLC that has you use wraith for the continuation of this story would be pretty sweet
2:55 I understood that reference
2:53 😂 well last time it looked like it hurt……..alot
I feel like Carnage is gonna be DLC. The third game is gonna be focused on Doc Ock and Green Goblin.
I hope the next game remembers this side quest and has him return as carnage (not as the main villain. But secondary antagonist along side Norman and Otto)
As someone who's favorite villain of all time is Carnage, I really hope that he is just Dlc for this game and doesn't play a big role in the next. If he's part of the Sinister 6, that's fine. But, I don't want 2 big symbiote games in a row. I think that would be too much.
It’s a shame Carnage is gonna be used up as a dlc villain, he has so much potential to be the main villain in the 3rd game alongside Green Goblin.
Who says he’s only going to be in a DLC ?
Never heard of the Red Goblin before ?
Yeah I'm guessing he's either going to be a dlc boss in spiderman 2 or 3 but who knows, maybe Green goblin will get the Li treatment and be a secondary antagonist
@@quantis1280 I have which is specifically the reason why I want Green Goblin and Carnage as the two main villains in the next game. But after seeing him as a dlc villain it’s highly unlikely. We’ll have to see after the dlc comes out.
@@greaserat4126 Well they’ve been building up the Green Goblin for two games now, so he will definitely be the main villain in the 3rd. However, what I didn’t like about the post credits is doc ocks involvement again, like just leave him out.
@@orangemochacino6420 I dont believe any official source confirmed he would be a dlc only character but even then I don’t see it becoming a problem. First a Venom led DLC where we play Venom again going against Carnage and leaving him for dead, but in the third we could have Norman find Carnage unconscious and emprison him, thinking he can use the symbiote for his revenge against Spidey. Worst case scenario you’re right and I wouldn’t even mind, because if Carnage does only have one future appearance, in DLC or spin-off, they’ll make him as good as can be. And Green Goblin is still a sick villain by himself.
Carnage in Marvel Spider-Man 3 I’m so hyped for the next one
i wouldve thought he would be a DLC
@@gitrickt8105 yea I think he should be dlc and let green goblin be main for Spider-Man 3
@@raynord817 yeah either a DLC or maybe even a spin off
I honestly wondered who this Flame cult leader guy could've possibly been, back when I first played his side mission story. Around 5:26 - 5:45, though, if not a bit sooner, is when I realized, "Oh, my God... So, THAT is who he REALLY is!"
Damn, we can really have the Red Goblin as the final boss of Spider-Man 3.
I wonder if there will be a "Monster Ock" in the next game...
it would be a nice tribute to the PS1 game
Yeah the storylines in this game were epic I just wish it would have been a little bit longer game
All this time i thought he was Molten man but this is far more scarier
Peter gonna wish he let Yuri finish the job when he gets his first taste of Carnage.
you know what makes this even more shocking? MAYBE you noticed this, but after you do the last Flame mission, Wraith mentions his names. She mentions CLETUS KASADY.
Next game is gonna be wild, Green Goblin? Carnage? Dr. Octavius? Red Goblin? Cindy Moon? And there’s gonna be more.
Green Goblin and Eddie Brock better be in the next game or dlc. Maybe Venom and Spiderman will fight together against Carnage in the next game.
Green Goblin absolutely is in the next game, the way the main story ends hints at it.
I dunno about Eddie Brock, but I imagine whenever Carnage shows up next, Venom will also - potentially a Venom game?
Carnage will be DLC but could also return in Spider-Man 3, the symbiote anyway
@@travtagonist3 Do we have confirmation on them being DLC from an official source or anything? Just curious.
@@theoutcastboi No confirmation but it seems like we may get it since in the last game some of the side missions foreshadowed future dlc
Insomniac: please bring Venom back in the future so he can whoop this psycho's ass! We neeeeed a Venom vs. Carnage fight!
Also, A+ on the perfect casting on Cameron Monaghan as Cletus Kasady.
EDIT: It's not Cameron Monaghan.
and make venom an actually good character this time
Yes
Agreed! Would love to see a Venom and both Spidermen team up.
Also, did they actually cast Cameron Monaghan as Cletus Cassidy in this game? Because him as Carnage has always been a popular fancast and I wasn't sure if it was him in the game?
@@TOM-ro7rt I think the one thing I hated the most about this game is they made venom a generic evil alien
We need Eddie Brock first so Venom can become an ally who still doesn’t like Spidey but he would be willing to team up so they can fight Carnage. Venom will still be an anti hero but is good enough to team up with Spidey with Eddie’s help
The flame really acts like a Cletus kassady.
The moment he went for the symbiote, part of me was like "wait a second..."
And then he began his line about the crimson hour and I immediately knew he was about to say Carnage and I got so hyped. This substory better come back.
I just hope Carnage will be this brutal monster from the comics like in the one where he took over a town through the water system