Can we live in non Muslim countries? - Q&A - Dr. Haitham al-Haddad
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Often we hear that it is haram to live in non-Muslim countries and a famous hadith of the Prophet SAW is quoted as evidence, but what is the context of this hadith and does it apply to us? Can we live in non-Muslim countries or are we sinning? Listen to Shaykh Dr. Haitham al-Haddad explain the matter in detail.
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Ofte hører vi at det er haram å leve i ikke-muslimske land og en kjent hadith av profeten SAW er sitert som bevis, men hva er konteksten til denne hadithen og er den gjeldende for oss? Kan vi lever i ikke-muslimske land, eller synder vi? Lytt til Shaykh Dr. Haitham al-Haddad forklare saken i detalj.
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Sheikh please!! There is no such thing as WRONG question. The question maybe leading or with ulterior motive etc. But not wrong question. It is up to the one answering to check the type of question on the basis of evidence and NOT mere suspicion and answer accordingly.
This is just sad...This Shayakh just avoid the question and start insulting the brother...What is wrong with that question...
typical behavior from a person who is a fake scholar.
@@holdshiftt2run308 Don't cross the line, yes it's wasn't cool of him to answer that way but still I don't think the solution is to question his status
@@holdshiftt2run308 a fake scholar who knows far more than you, what does that say about you?
@@Justme-vq8rx
Sorry brother, how was any line crossed?
@@slic4temp353 I was answering a comment I guess it's been deleted
Dr Zakir answered this very very comprehensive fully
where ? can u send the link plss
@@sakura142 search in TH-cam below.
Is it permissible to migrate to a none Muslim country for a better Life?-Dr Zakir.
You get it definitely
@GABRIEL MOSES Ignorant spotted..
Nah he was biased. He took a hadidth out of context and he didn't explain to the fullest when it came to the ayat of the Qur'an. Just because he yelled haram haram haram like we're used to hearing doesn't make him right. If you truly want to know then please read the fatwas of true scholars. Like the famous and decorated scholars of the hanafi and the other mathabs. To sum it all up, the majority of the scholars agree that you can move to a non muslim country of you have the freedom to practice your religion freely and openly. Some say practicing the religion also means disapproving and demolishing shirk. If that was the case then there would have been people of other faiths during the golden age of Islam. Plus, the prophet Muhammad PBUH allowed some Christians to pray in a certain place which has historical significance in the Islamic history. I was informed about that hadidth not long ago but you can search it up since I don't remember the details of it's origins. But it was said to be authentic. I don't understand my own people sometimes. Someone who yells haram haram haram is considered right 99% of the times while someone who speaks valid points is driven out and hated upon. It's gotten to such an extent that Muslims think Islam has no flexibility, which is untrue.
@@RIPer-rg2cz hello. I hope you are doing well. Can you please let me know quotations/links of the main scholars that have said its permissible to move to a non Muslim country?
Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him ) said " I disown every muslim who settles among the nonmuslims ( Abu Dawood
I was born in Sweden. Shut up
He is an ikhwani modernist, what do you expect?
@mo ali Im a kafir? Ok you do you. Theres is an authentic Hadeeth about people who say that someone is a kafir and if he isnt a kafir it goes back to the one who said it. Allah is the judger after all. And I dont get how I am a kafir for living in Sweden because a big chunk of Muslims live in the west, but i guess that they are kafir right?
Where do you get that from
Give quranic verses to support ,your saying .like to see myself .
What if a person lives India where Muslims qty is quite much as compared to Western countries ,practice their religion and having threat of their life. And due to some new laws they may be sent to detention camp. I think for these Muslims it's better to migrate to Western countries like Canada where of course there qty is much less as they are in India but they are more safe.
Please listen to Dr.Zakir lectures on this and he refer in the light of Quran and Hadees and after listening his lectures i cancel my migration to non Muslims country Alahamdulillah
Alhamdulillahi Rabbil 'Aalameen. Brother I'm the son of my parents who migrated here. Alhamdulillah Allah guided back to the right path, however before I was in all sorts of haram, my parents were astray, the whole family didn't know what islam was. It's a disaster for the religion and living here strips you of your identity. Everywhere you go you find a naked person, a gay person, a liberalised muslim who does riba. Brother May Allah SWT bless you and may Allah protect the ummah from this crisis on iman in the west.
He misused the situation of Abysinnia. There was no Muslim stronghold set up in Arabia. Not only that, the king became Muslim and their intention was not to live there permanently.
And as soon as a Madinah was established as a Muslim land, the Muslims in Abyssinia were ordered to leave and come to Madinah.
Sheikh no question is wrong question. This way people will b discouraged to ask questions.
I know and I couldn't understand why a learned person would respond to simple question/s other than to confuse people.
Nothing wrong with this question. Just answer.
I put this comment without any disrespect as he has more knowledge than me.
Not sure why the answer couldn't be as simple and straightforward as the question or as it should/could be.
To me he's confusing the matter by simply twisting things.
And I have never really felt comfortable by him overall ever since I met him when he was Imaam at Al Muntada in Fulham.
The analogies given about Norway or India isn't really valid since if a person is native to those countries and there are no real threats to life or practicing religion then there is no need to migrate permanently.
I think the question was simply asking: in light of the Verse, is it permitted to migrate to a non Muslim country.
Prior to him, a guest Khatib at the same Masjid said the following (in brief):
1. To start he highlighted all the various problems/challenges/obstacles we Muslims faced/facing/will face
2. The he asked: why are we here or the others living in various non Muslim countries
3. The he gave list of valid reasons to migrate permanently/temporarily:
(In more or less the same order as said:
* migration in the path of Allaah ie propagation of Islaam and even then one should not intend to go permanently (however I think there may be flexibility in this case)
* if your life is danger and there are no options of going to Muslim countries.
The following cases a person must intend and make all efforts to return upon completion of their needs:
* studying and medical treatments in the situation of not being available in one's home land.
* business, visiting etc.
It seems that most respected learned people and Imaams will not say anything by which they themselves will be trapped and will not be able to remain permanently in non Muslim lands.
Allaah Subhaanahu wa Ta`ala knows best is the best Disposer of affairs and I ask Allaah Subhaanahu wa Ta`ala have Mercy on me and Forgive me for any wrong comments.
Why he is angry on this question. I think he himself is living in non Muslim country therefore he took it personal.
This is the situation and reality of all the esteemed scholars living in dar ul kufr
He did not answer at all. Going in circles. I been told that a Muslim should not live in a non Muslim country
How come it is the wrong question? I’m sorry to say this, but these are the type of people why people are leaving Islam
This is not the answer what sheikh gives. Instead he roll the answer and ended the talk.
what are you talking about?
Just like Yasir Qadhi, Omar Sulieman and those fake scholars.
Because he might be living in non Muslim country I guess
He is Devil, just playing with words.
I think these sheep people don’t understand English
Our four fathers left thier families in the land of islam for money... So why cant we leave the lands of non muslims for Allah!!!! Its haraam for us to stay in the west
Allahumma Barik beautiful thought.
May Allah make hijrah easy for us
ALLAHu Akbar walhamdulliah
@@sologamer8287 We can't practise our religion because we're leaving our religion! Don't you understand the reality of muslims and the identity crisis in the west, don't be blind!
Did anyone else notice that he called Abyssinia a kafir nation? This is the same nation that provided refuge for the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) during the first Hijra. The Dr. is literally distorting the history to make the followers of Isa (the Negashi and the Abyssinians) and fellow believers in Allah (SWT) to be disbelievers. Also, he said Europe does not prevent Muslims from practicing their faith yet throughout Europe the call to prayer is widely banned with the exception of five minutes every Friday in Germany (under a two year initiative started in 2022).
We need to be wary of Islamic scholars who equivocate or get defensive about this question when the Quran and Hadith are very explicit about this. Muslims must make it an obligation to live in Muslim nations. Scholars who downplay this are attempting to protect whatever privilege they derive from living in the west and they are misleading the ummah when they pretend otherwise. May Allah (SWT) guide us to be courageous in our Iman so that we can fulfill our mission to escape all truly kafir nations.
Every country in this world deals with riba,which is the biggest curse,Allah says enter in Islam fully!!
My understanding is that it is Haram to migrate to a non- Muslim country except for
Trade, Study , Dawa or If your own country is in a War like Afghanistan, syria, Yemen etc and You can't go a another Muslim country then you can. Otherwise migrating just to earn more or just for better life is Haram
And if you are born in a non Muslim country then it's a different question
ya, they not live in non muslim country at all, what they do is go to non muslim country and play victim card till they become majority and make it become muslim country
Exactly my brother. You have put it simple and correct.
Has Allah not made the Earth wide enough for us ... wallah these “sheikhs” are influenced by the west
no he was quoting the quran
Yes akhi but the countries within Earth have also VISA restrictions as well, and in other Muslim countries there's more immorality or, even worse, oppression against practicing Muslims. Therefore you can't define which country is properly Muslim anymore. And Allahoa3lam.
@@jaggafeen No, it's not a pathetic excuse. There are certain Muslim countries who have more fitnah than some western countries. Try grow a beard in Morocco according to the real Sunnah and frequent daily the Masjid and see what happens to you. Try to say that the Mawlid is bid'ah in Morocco and see what's going to happen to you. Try to "enjoin good and forbid evil" or make Dawah to a person in Morocco and see what's going to happen to you. If you say that making hijrah is so easy and recommended, than give me a indefinite visa for Saudi Arabia in order to live in Makkah or Madinah, and I'd live there even as a destitute/beggar, water zamzam will suffice for me. But since it's nearly impossible to make hijrah, honestly I don't know.
@@jaggafeen It depends by case. I was born and grew up in the West, but I'm still a Muslim.
Saudi Arabia is the best Muslim country to live in for religion, but other ones are just...you know akhi.
He responded very defensively. Give the people the general hukum, then one can search for exceptions.
What is general?
Today there is no Islamic country. Every country in the world is non muslim country
with the help of Allah, How would Islam n Muslim expend , if they do not migrate. Why can't someone go to Europe and introduce Islam to his classmates, colleagues, neighbors by his generosity as Islam teach us to be generous .
you should only come here with the intention of guiding people, not staying here, for it is impossible to stay here and settle without falling into major evils and committing haram. Evils such as: riba, the western ideology, the western mode of dressing. The biggest evil here is the lack of islam and muslims, your iman will crumble if you're not strong enough. I see so many muslims here completely giving up and not upholding things which are fard. Brother you can't even pray on time if you're at a job here or at school, sometimes you're able to, but in my experience it's very difficult. It's a struggle to find a place, and if you do, there may be people there as well and they are typically engaging in immoral acts. SubhanAllah, I don't understand why a muslim who believes in Allah and lives and dies for yawm al-akhir would choose dar-ul-kufr. May Allah protect and guide us all
As far as I know Abyssinia king had accepted Islam. Moreover they weren't opresssed at any level as was clear according to the response of Abyssinia king to Meccans mushriks.
Therefore Muslims residing in Abyssinia can't be taken as proof to live in oppressed country.
He indirectly answered that; If you have no other option except to be killed or murdered Than you can migrate to a Non Muslim country such as in Western countries. If you don't have other option except eating Haram food or you would die than you have to Eat Haram Food. It's his answer I think. It would be much better if he answered directly. Jajakallah Shykh
Sorry brother, I think you don't understand the question. Unless I'm wrong, I think the questioner asked about Muslims migrating and living permanently on non Muslim countries.
Shaikh rephrased question wrongly. All major shaikhs say that muslims should not migrate to non muslim countries except for Dawah work, education or medical treatment. Those living in Europe or USA etc should try to go to their native muslim countries. Native people of Europe and USA who reverted to Islam are expected to remain steadfast because they left their ancesstors religion for Islam. But they too can migrate to muslim countries if possible. Majority of muslims are living there not because of oppression but poor economic conditions in their native countries and end up losing their Iman, just like UK prime minister Boris Johnson whose grand father was muslim and Hafiz ul Quran.
This particular 'Shaykh' I unfortunately always found, answering Islamic questions apologetically; he seems has excuses to all the classical Islamic concepts. May Allah guide him & keep everyone safe from such fitna mongers.
so your were dying in your country?and all other brothers and sisters were dying in their countries and it was halal to live in NON-MUSLIM countries???it is only permisible to live to spread ISLAM otherwise its haram....
yes, alhamdulillah
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) sent an expedition to Khath'am. Some people sought protection by having recourse to prostration, and were hastily killed. When the Prophet (ﷺ) heard that, he ordered half the blood-wit to be paid for them, saying: I am not responsible for any Muslim who stays among polytheists. They asked: Why, Messenger of Allah? He said: Their fires should not be visible to one another.
Abu Dawud said: Hushaim, Ma'mar, Khalid b. al-Wasiti and a group of narrators have also narrated it, but did not mention Jarir.
حَدَّثَنَا هَنَّادُ بْنُ السَّرِيِّ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو مُعَاوِيَةَ، عَنْ إِسْمَاعِيلَ، عَنْ قَيْسٍ، عَنْ جَرِيرِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، قَالَ بَعَثَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم سَرِيَّةً إِلَى خَثْعَمٍ فَاعْتَصَمَ نَاسٌ مِنْهُمْ بِالسُّجُودِ فَأَسْرَعَ فِيهِمُ الْقَتْلُ - قَالَ - فَبَلَغَ ذَلِكَ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَأَمَرَ لَهُمْ بِنِصْفِ الْعَقْلِ وَقَالَ " أَنَا بَرِيءٌ مِنْ كُلِّ مُسْلِمٍ يُقِيمُ بَيْنَ أَظْهُرِ الْمُشْرِكِينَ " . قَالُوا يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ لِمَ قَالَ " لاَ تَرَاءَى نَارَاهُمَا " . قَالَ أَبُو دَاوُدَ رَوَاهُ هُشَيْمٌ وَمُعْتَمِرٌ وَخَالِدٌ الْوَاسِطِيُّ وَجَمَاعَةٌ لَمْ يَذْكُرُوا جَرِيرًا .
صحيح دون جملة العقل (الألباني) حكم :
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 2645
In-book reference : Book 15, Hadith 169
English translation : Book 14, Hadith 2639
Can u pls explain this to me?? As im searching and searching,, the reason.... Not getting anything
What does it mean ? Their fire is not visible to one another ?
Living in western country I have come to acknowledge why Muslims are forbidden to reside in non Muslim countries, it’s entirely one’s choice to choose luxury and comfort of western life while compromise basics of religion we can see how non Muslims beliefs has becomes norms of even practicing Muslims life. May Allah swt guide us to right path Ameen
Unfortunately, i disagree with the scholar about wrong questions. In addition to this interpretation is very fuzzy and confusing. Response from Dr. Zakir is much more clear.
Very discouraging attitude!
He seems to be offended by that question.
No question is a silly question or wrong question, you answered it well so there was no need of this comment.
I request Muslims just to ignore these type of so called ‘sheikh’
Following on from my previous comments, I don't understand why he is responding with asking about various countries ie UAE, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, China, India etc etc is irrelevant because he is referring to those who are already natives of that land and so why would they leave their homes, lands and possessions which are dear to them as was Makkah to The Prophet salla-Allaahu alaihi wasallam.
It's completely illogical.
I think the question was referring to people living here who have come from various countries and are able to go back but choose to live in non Muslim countries under various rulings which go against Divine Guidelines.
I sometimes wonder who sheikh haitham studied under. He talks just like Yasir Qadhi.
His answer is not appropriate...
There was no muslim nation from the beginning. Muslims migrated from place to place and many other people in those places accepted islam and became muslims. You should be able to set up a muslim society in any nation when you are living there. If you cannot make a muslim society then it is your failure to introduce islam and spread it all over the place you are living. Evem Arabia was a non muslim country at the time of Prophet Mohamed, but later it became a muslim nation and that is the way to introduce islam to any nations you migrate
Noooo, he DOES explain this properly!
Lots of Muslims go live in non Muslim lands, doing it for decades.
BUT, Muslims should rather all live , in their own lands,,, that's what ALLAH WANTS.
Then move back to your lands instead of trying to get the rest of us to kiss up to your Sharia Law.
@@ryanhoward3383 ANOTHER BIT OF ADVICE:
Sharia is NOT what
YOURE brain washed with ! If youre clever you'll actually consult a
Maulana, which means priest. Go to a mosque and , you'll be enlightened by , a Muslims response to non Muslim...oh MAY ALLAH OPEN YOUR EYES,.
@@reneesirkhot7317 sharia is Islamic law that covers a broad spectrum of daily life. It can include harmless things like abstaining from eating certain foods or drinks but there are also some things that aren't so harmless such as brutal punishments for crimes or turning non Muslims into second class citizens.
It's not impossible that's why militaries exsist.
Ask the right question wtf
India has a high percentage of Muslims in some states and cities maybe even a majority So sheikh you CANNOT compare to western muslims where we only count only 1 or 2% at most 7% in France. Even in America it's pretty hard to practice Islam even some jobs don't let you practice or go jummah.
sheikh you need more knowledge , the brother ask you very good question .You took pride in yourself , that is not the answer, now those days plenty of shoyoukh
Can Indian Muslims migrate ? To Saudi or any other Muslim country ??
Who told you they cant?@Hiba Jama H
Yes, they can if they want.
I did. 😎
@@kingly.S which country citizenship you got?
What about Muslims living in India??
India is not a muslim country..Why are you living there?
Go search is it permissible for Muslims to live in India by dr zakir naik … clear cut answer u will find
Firstly , a kufaar means non MUSLUM ,means, also kaffir means non MUSLUM , and land! Got asked a question by a non MUSLUM ,who happens to be black south African, nd asking why the questioner, pronounces the word that way... Noooo,
Unfortunately, non Muslims dont understand Islamic Arabic ,so they quickly , misconstrue the word ,
Please, can you explain this properly ASWELL.
Your correct, I'm wrong I apologise, kufaar means
Non believer" plse forgive
So uighur Muslims should kindly leave Xinjiang and settle somewhere else.. Same for kashmiri Muslims..
Good answer.. I support that
you have said right ,sir
Sheikh has given very poor reply to a very authentic question.Plz, listen to Dr.Zakir Nayek and Huda TV to understand the Islamic concept on this issue.
The muslims should call for the classical setup
A lots sheikhs who lives in us and western countries have convinced themselves that it is okay and after that everything becomes halal, credits card insrance, morgage, students loans they have given fatwas that it is permissible due to necessity for a good life, take your religion for real scholars not any tom dick and harry
If you don't like the Sheikh, don't listen to his lectures. If you know better than him then make your own decisions. No, give your own Fatwa. 🙄🙄🙄
No we cannot.
Just we can go if we can go for study, dawah, health care and business
One thing is beein born Muslim Chinese but other is go from Pakistan tonChina to live
Most authentic Sunna
👈اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَاَنَّ مُحَمَّدً رَسُولُ اللہ* (اخرجہ بخاري حدیث نمبر462,3861 و اخرجہ مسلم حدیث نمبر 93- یشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَاَنَّ مُحَمَّدً رَسُولُ اللہ)
👈لا إله إلا الله* (اخراجہ بخاري حد یث نمبر-44 ومسلم11)
* Note. these kalimas are most authentic prophet and their compenions alway recite it.
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unauthentic,Bedha
👈لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله *
(اخرجہ فی ضعیف الحدیث من البيهقی و طبرانی)
*Note. this kalma is clear innovation prophet and their compenions never ever recite it.
It is really bad practice to discourage people to ask questions. Is this "Shayakh" really the best Islam Net can do.
This is not the answer
This guy is ashamed of his own behavior so he jumps to special cases instead of answering the straight forward question. What about paying taxes to help foreign militaries brutalize muslims and non muslims? What about that ya sheikh?
why is it ot posible for islamians to move or live in islamian country? why dont islamiam country dont want their islamian brothers.
That’s why I always try to hear all real scholar and so called scholar. Otherwise you will not understand the different of real knowledge. Sheikh answering some refference is not match with Questions. ( I’m subject to correct). The same question answered by Dr. Zakir Naik and the answer was according to the Quranul Kareeem. He didn’t use any Hadit at all. When Quran is enough for answer and explanation so why we will use the Hadit first? Quran is primary source after that if Hadit is matching then we will use properly and this is the beauti of Islamic Scholarship. If Hadit will conflict anyway with Quranul Kareem then ignore the Hadit source. Allah Knows Best.
Dear, hadith is the explanation of the Quran to understand it better
What about a visit for medical treatment or study purposes ?? Is it sinful to do or not excused !!!
There is no "need" to be in dar al kufr. People move because they love this world or they have no other option. Period.
No some people are born in western countries? What is your problem you idiot?
Chaz Dadkhah You are so insanely ignorant that it’s absolutely insane. Stick to your life and thank you for the advice.
Being in non Muslim countries is halal as long as you can carry out your obligatory duties and it’s even recommended if you give Dawah in such countries.
So why don’t you do some research before forming your own emotional opinion?
Chaz Dadkhah It’s really funny how you are calling me a hypocrite when you are a hypocrite yourself. You are saying that it isn’t recommended to live in a non Muslim country? Then I would like you to research my claims. First claim: Its allowed to live in a non Muslim country if you can carry out all your obligatory duties. Second claim: It is recommended to live in a non Muslim country if you give out Dawah. How am I verbally abusing you? You can’t take straight facts? This conversation proves my statement - you are ignorant. You are ignorant about the Deen but you are also ignorant about me. You don’t know my life and my circumstances. What if I am a 13 year old girl? Do you expect me to leave my family, education and life and go move to a more Muslim country instead? You assume that everything is a dance on flowers. Add on: Notice how I said “more Muslim country” because to be completely honest with you there are no fully Muslim countries anymore. In Saudi Arabia you have clubs and alcohol served in some cities. That’s Saudi Arabia!
Chaz Dadkhah Let me go back to your first comment as well. You said that “they don’t want you there”. Who are they? Are you speaking about the whole population or governors?
Chaz Dadkhah I’m twisting my words right? This is taken from one of the most “strict” Islamic sources on the web.
“The basic principle is that it is not permissible for the Muslim to settle among the mushrikeen if he is unable to practice his religion openly while being able to emigrate to a Muslim country. This is indicated by evidence from the Qur’aan and Sunnah.”. So if you are not able to practice your religion while being able to migrate then this is where it doesn’t become permissible. And you do the rest: research if whether it is recommended or not to live in a non Muslim country while giving Dawah. You are saying that I’m twisting my words which is no more than a lie, a clear trait from a hypocrite.
It's all political nonsense propaganda nothing to do with the deen. Question well to learn from knowledgeable people.
This ranting
Ohh man
a person on podium should respect and not shame in front of others
Wallahi it’s sad
assimalhakeem also answered this
When in Rome do as Romans do
Hmm
Sheikh is a quite rude guy
He is very vey much ignorant. No respect for him. He is hiding knowledge from human beings. This isn't absolutely right. I don't wanna be rude to him. But the no can ignore the truth. This is the whole issue. If someone has eyes, nose, ears and so on.
Who the hell is this?
Its pronounced
Kuuu faar.
I dnt like this person
MAD RELIGION.....Islam.
lol
U r mad then if u think this