I think the Japanese kit uses a cotton paper base whereas the Crayola uses a recycled paper base, typically when you make paper you let it dry by pressing it then, air dry, some people even stick it to the window. The Crayola kit didn't come with any kind of binder, which is absolutely fine! You can easily make paper at home without any binder. Also, homemade paper made tends to be more brittle, and thicker, so it's not really made to be folded more as an accent for scrapbooks, journals, and cards.
Are you in lockdown again? Here in Italy we are in lockdown again, for 20 days... It's day 2 and I am losing my mind already....we have been in lockdown for a LONGER time last year, but It seems like we are going back in time now and I don't like It... Because of that I feel you so much...
@@redbear4350 We sort of relaxed the lockdown and then had to go back and redo it over a few days or even a week... I don’t remember. This is known as lockdown 3 but it’s just one big lockdown since the start. A little less than a month for you hopefully. Best of luck 🤞🏻
The binding agent is a dry pvc powder that connects the paper its kinda like powdered glue , it helps u write smoother not fully pvc it might contain ingredients like careeganan and stuff
@@fanaticaH yes but I dont think they would give tree gum it must be unnatural and I think it must contain some kind of pvc as it is intended for kids but I guess in the traditional method u would use tree gum or something
I think that in the crayola's kit you Need less Pulp and that Who wrote the instructions messed up with the quantity of the Pulp you Need, the sheet was too thic that's why It broke in Pieces. Try It again with lesser Pulp and see what happens.
Yup. I’ve made paper before and as soon as they spread out the Crayola one I said "eww, that’s gonna take forever to dry and it’s too thick. What is Crayola thinking?"
To be fair to the Crayola one, handmade paper sticking to it's drying surface and being extremely textural are both common papermaking hiccups w/o easy solutions. I used to make paper with my own home-made tools and dry the sheets on a mirror in the sun; they'd tear and stick to the mirror unless I washed it thoroughly every time.
So I actually run a tiny home business making handmade paper (recycling various materials) and it's easy to get started by buying things from the dollar store. You can make a "mould and deckle" from photo frames and screen mesh. The problems you had in the video are common for beginners and get better with technique and practice. :) I feel like Crayola's kit actually overcomplicated things? But then possibly made it more fun for kids. You definitely made cardboard and not paper though... XD The Japanese kit was also probably different because their traditional paper making technique is so different from the west. Handmade paper will always be textured because it's essentially cold-pressed paper (like some watercolour paper) but you can make it smoother by leaving it in its press (mine is two pieces of cheap plywood) to dry or ironing whilst still damp. I think you can do additives like glue or cornstarch but I haven't needed to do that yet. Once you find a technique that works for you it's such a soothing activity to do plus being able to make your own paper as a creative? Just... -chef's kiss-
The op shop photo frame is the exact same way I started. 😆 I add PVA and corn starch to my paper because it not only helps the paper to last longer but also helps to prevent bleeding when written on. There are so many ways to make paper though. I just love how accessible and versatile it is. ❤
@@deltahillcreative You've convinced me I must start trying this! :D I think I've somehow got lucky with my paper not bleeding so much cause of all the random things I end up recycling. XD But yeah! Anyone can put their twist on it or do it in their own way and it's not difficult to start. I hope more people get into it. :D
Have you ever experimented with adding sizing to prevent ink from immediately soaking into the paper? You could basically make homemade watercolor or art paper that way.
@@orchdork775 I did a bit! Because I recycled paper from various sources, I started with just glue, which helped somewhat! The only dilemna I had was responsibly disposing of the water. The shop is on hiatus now anyway. It was supposed to be a joint project but the other person never stepped up. :( It's something I want to start again on my own, so I'll probably research and experiment with this more. :D
The binding agent is probably a chemically enhanced starch. I use corn starch mixed with PVA glue (1:2 *you may need a little water to help combine the two) which is then mixed with the pulp and water. I soak my shredded paper in a large mixing bowl of warm water for a few hours, pulp it with a stick blender and then pour it into a larger container. I'll then add about 2 cups of the starch/glue mixture and combine it all really well using my hands - gloves recommended. (I find this is the easiest way to work it all through and get rid of any major lumps. The more time spent here means smoother paper later.) This is also the point you'd add colours, scents or other things like flowers or glitter. I then spread the pulpy mixture onto my mesh, place more mesh on top, and feed it through my press. Once it's passed through a few times it goes onto the rack to dry for a few days. I don't take either piece of mesh off until it's completely dry.
There are types of paper that don't bend...that's not the kits fault. It's a type of paper and it's a small and thick paper. Lol. So it's not gonna bend. It's also not a smooth pulp...so it's not going to be a super smooth paper. And the only reason it didn't peel is because it wasn't fully dry. I think it was too much pulp. You might double check if you were supposed to push the pulp down that much when you measured it...that's probably also why it was too hard to turn the wheel.
Actually it's easier to remove when it's wet. I've never done it with dry paper it makes sense that is sticks when there is no barrier between the mesh an the fibers
All handmade paper is bumpy and not like what you get in the store. You are literally only using pulp and water, store paper uses a lot more ingredients. I think you guys used way too much pulp, and not enough patience 😂 You guys made a beautiful piece of handmade stationery. After you add the pulp and before you press it that’s when you can add little flowers and blades of grass or whatever flat decorations you want. Handmade/homemade stationery/paper is harder to write on then your lined school paper, but that is the beauty of it! You can see that it was handmade!! Try the crayola again, but go slower, enjoy the process, make sure your pulp is blended up in smaller pieces so it’s not so chunky. Your pulp was way way way to chunky. But you guys did great!! ❤️
It's not just the ingredients. Paper mills put their damp sheets through a heavy roller press. I also like handmade paper as an element for stuff like making cards or scrapbook layouts - it adds a nice texture, and the feathery torn edges can be gorgeous.
I think putting the paper in the oven for over 2 hours may have dried it out too much. Usually in papermaking they let it dry for 1-3 days like outside and pat it dry with a sponge. a much more gentle method than bake it to death.
The crayola kit just needed better instructions, also way more water and a dip method like the Japanese kit, the crayola one was brittle because the pulp wasn't thin enough or dry enough, and both screens should have been removed before drying
I think the quick oven thing was the faulty one, I guess they try to come up with quicker ways to do things so they aren't a hassle with desperate children but they're faulty. Also I couldn't tell if putting it back in the oven ruined it. The paper seemed like a baked cracker so I wonder if they accidentally baked the paper.
@@fanaticaH it was a bit of everything, the paper was far too thick, it needs more water to mix it in then the water drains out, both kits had good parts, but the Japanese one did better because it allowed the paper to be fully incorporated and thin so you could control the thickness overall, the thicker the paper the more brittle
@@emilymulcahy I think maybe the instructions made quantity of fiber in the cup before adding water something confusing because it didn't specify if they meant compressed or not. And I guess they meant not compressed.
@@fanaticaH I believe she said it requested compressed, but even then, uncompressed it wasn't enough water, I've made paper, neither kit was perfect but the Japanese one was better because you need an ungodly amount of liquid to make paper this way
@@emilymulcahy I wonder if it came on a sealed bag because it was already like premade. I think maybe Jackie should try again with the Crayola kit because so much stuff happened that it's hard to pinpoint what was wrong. I was hoping Jackie did another try and dry it overnight, specially because she had to wait for the binding medium from the other kit anyway. Was the premade fiber dried up? Or maybe the instructions were badly written so Jackie didn't understand you need to add extra water? Did they mess the paper by adding ink on the corners? Did they have to take out the mesh before drying? Was drying the paper on the oven bad advice from Crayola? Did Sika accidentally slightly burn the paper in the oven? Did Jackie misunderstood the end product and it wasn't made to bend? At least I suspect you needed to remove both meshes before you put the paper in the oven because I don't think the meshes stand such heat.
It honestly reminded me of wallpaper glue that was a little watered down...but it's what we used in 6th grade art class for our paper machete project. Definitely VERY snotty and slime like!
They never take things like this into consideration when reviewing these kits. I have to say I've been getting annoyed at these reviews because it seems like anything is a reason for a bad review.
@@Shoonam they're doing it from the perspective of someone who doesn't know anything about the process, which is what the average consumer buying a kit would expect. Nowhere in either kit are we told not to bend the paper, and your average consumer is going to think "ah yes, paper, we bend that"
These papers are just one of kind that are thick , they are never made to bent. And they are bumpy in the nature. And papermaking is really long process that requires patience and focus, simple mistake will cost a lot.
“More of a treaty”... You can tell she’s a teacher by the words she uses most of the time. Not just for this but it makes me smile ☺️ and giggle a little.
As someone who likes to recycle paper myself, this makes it look harder then it needs to be 😂😀 Oh and adding some cornstarch will help you to make paper that won't absorb top much ink. Maybe that is the secret binding agent? 🤔
@@pinkpineapple9663 I use it a lot for note paper (teacher, so I take a lot of them), but also in crafting cards or tags, or making notebooks / journals for friends :)
the kiwico mini notebook kit has great instructions for making paper! if you're curious: it gives you thin paper strips, tissue paper, colored cardstock, a jar, a tray and mesh. you shake the paper strips, colored tissue paper, and bits of cardstock together with water. you get a tray (like a baking sheet) with water in it and set the tray they give you that has holes, like the crayola one, in it. put one sheet of mesh on, pour in the paper pulp, and move it around with your hands. set the next sheet of mesh on top and flip the sandwich of mesh and pulp onto a paper towel. put another on top and roll it with the jar to squeeze out extra water. switch out the paper towels until they aren't getting soaked anymore, and take off the mesh. let it dry overnight. there you have homemade paper! they use it as a cover for a mini notebook in the kit.
I literally just found this channel. I have a daughter that's very crafty and I watch nerdyecrafter now to get her opinion on things. I just feel like she's one of the few honest youtubers. So I completely trust her opinion. Thank you Jackie your channel really means alot to me.
I am not really a crafter to be honest. But I love your videos. They helped me getting through rough days in hospital and gave me sind good laughs and smiles at home. Best to watch on a not so good day. You give more to people then you think
@@FuriosasWarRig because she didn’t actually do it properly, she used too much pulp and handmade paper is supposed to be thick bumpy and brittle so the crayola kit isnt that far off
You can use a household iron to help dry/flatten your sheets. You can even spray a little spray starch like you’d use on a shirt to make it stiffer. That Crayola paper was just too thick to dry easily and not crack. But paper making isn’t like baking - it’s inexact and organic. And totally fun (and cheap) to experiment and freeform!
Paper maker here!! 👋🏻☺️ loved this vid! It’s cool because you demo’d both eastern and western paper making techniques (western with crayola and eastern with the Japanese one) Honestly makes me want to make an even better kit that would CRUSH crayolas 😂 It’s a super simple process once you have all of the materials!
Thank you Jackie for this video. One of my rats just passed away... I'm heartbroken and my head hurts so much from crying already. I chilled out while watching the video. Thank you
I’m going to disagree with your opinion on the crayola kit. Homemade paper is literally like that. It’s bumpy and not super bendy. Your sheet was probably a little thick but I was pretty impressed with your results
@@nerdecrafter But it's still valid to say that a lot of handmade paper looks exactly like what you produced with the Crayola kit. Watch SeaLemon - she recently made paper using her own equipmemt and it turned out similar : textured and not flexible.
@@nerdecrafter - the Japanese ONE is NO better than the Crayola one in THIS CASE. You guys DID not use an oven thermometer, so your oven was NOT in the correct temperature. You put TOO much material in the machine tray, your pulp was TOO thick. Certainly the Crayola instrictions are laclking steps (but by now you and Sika are EXPERTS at "figuring it out" 🤣). Also, the temperature in Canada (it's SUPER cold!!!) makes a difference! There are a lot of things that I have to wait for Summer to do them 😔 or else they don't cure correctly.
The process of the Japanese kit looks like so much fun! if a fair bit more complicated... and Y'all are missing out oatmeal is amazing, I said what I said
Jackie and Sika, first hello and I love watching you both. Just wanted to let you know that, many moons ago, my Mom used to do artwork using homemade paper. Mostly beachy scenes. She worked alongside my Dad, who sold artwork to hotels and other businesses on the southeast coast, NC down through Florida, where they live. When my Mom started her own artwork they sold that as well. Her art was beautiful. She incorporated beach sand, shells, starfish, sand dollars, and dried plants. I used to help make the paper when I was visiting and even made a few pieces of art myself. So much fun 😍 P.S.: the process is more "like" the Japanese kit, but more involved and on a much larger scale. We had a high powered blender only for paper making. Sorry, but I don't remember the specific binding agent, but yes, it was gloopy.
I literally got that paper kit 2 weeks ago... I don’t like the method Crayola says to use, I use the method of putting the pulp into a big bucket and dropping the mold and deckle to collect the pulp. I tried it with the Crayola kit and it worked!
Me and my daughter now dance to the "figure it out" song... 🤣🤣🤣 The Crayola pulp looks like the lint that collects in my dryer.... I'm guessing the pulp contained an adhesive - when I made paper as a kid we used a little wallpaper paste to make it work. I know the Crapola kit had clearer instructions, I preferred the end product from the Japanese kits. Now I wanna go make some paper again!
Jackie: “*Crayola Kit* I actually have hope on this one” Me: “Ooh yeah... free money......I’ll take this bet Jackie!” ALSO Jackie to Sika: “Have you finished making noise?” Me: “Ooh yeah, double or nothing.... I’ll take this bet too, Jackie!” 😂😂😂
Me: pulls up u tube and sees jackies new vid My brain:ALL RIGHT ITS TUESDAY! My finger:I AM SPEED My brain when I see the title:AW CRAP ITS CRAPOLA AGAIN Jackie:Are we simping over wood? Me: 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I study printmaking and know a lot about paper and how it's made (my second year was all about making my own printing paper). I'm pretty sure the binding agent is a specific type of glue, your paper is more fragile with less glue and more water absorbing. Since the kit comes from japan, it will probably be japanese paper or awagami (typically very very thin and lightweigt, also really soft). The glue also makes the paper a bit more smooth for easier writing and/or drawing, the more glue/agent the smoother the paper and more vast. The japanese kit is basically how I learned to make paper (except I did not use an agent so my paper was chonky and more brittle). My teacher also said they use some type of rice glue in japan for their paper, it looks a lot like mochi dough imo when I first saw it! You could try and use craft glue, but I suppose it will mostly dissolve in the water and not really interact with the pulp how it's supposed to. I hope this kinda explained it! I dont know the name of the glue tho, since different types of paper/different countries use different types of glue! Loved this video, lots of love from Belgium!
Watching this I was just thinking about how much I quote you on the regular! I constantly tell my kids "stop breaking my stuff", I sing "figure it out" at work at least once a week, and "English number one" mainly when I'm to tired to function. It's kind of sad though bc no one else knows what I'm referring to 😅
Girl you and sika always make my day!! I have multiple severe health issues and I'm not able to do much so having some fun silly entertainment is great!! Love you guys!!
Agree. It's way too wasteful to include things people already have. And as a parent whose kids love kits like this...I don't want more junk even if it wasn't bad for the planet
@@Skittl1321 I hope you DO realize you're paying for a kit that's supposed to be COMPLETE and ready to craft, yes? If it's not fully ready to craft, you shouldn't pay full price for it.
@@isabellegoegebuer2777 they can’t give you every single thing that you need in a kit then less ppl would be able to buy it cause the price would increase plus if things you need are just normal household things what’s the issue
Have you ever thinking about trying recipes from other TH-camrs? I can suggest EmmyMadeInJapan's channel! There's a couple videos of recipes she's made from the retro recipe books to recipes that are fun and weird in a good way! It's worth a look! Also, it's interestingly pleasing to me that Crayola made a paper making craft, since they DO eco friendly stuff in their factories! Using solar powered panels to get solar energy, reusing scrap plastics for their plastic marker tubes, re-using excess wax for crayons, and (My personal favorite) manufacturing colored pencils with reforested wood, aka they use trees and replant a tree for every one cut down. Crapola? More like Careola!
The other day I was trying to fix something and started singing: "figure it out..buh buh buh..figure it out.” Thank you for the catchy and fitting song lovelies ❤️
The crayola kit actually looked about right. It's a clever and cute way to teach kids about the basics of papermaking. You used too much pulp and didn't thin it out enough, and I think you cooked it for a bit too long. Handmade paper is crumbly like that if you crush it like that, so that was normal. The paper you get in the store is completely different and goes through a bunch of different processes before it actually reaches packaging.
I have made paper before, and the japanese kit is closer to the actual process. A blender is a necessary tool to get the pulp to the proper consistency. it is very obvious the crayola kit cut a lot of corners, which is why it came out as bad as it did. Having as much pulp as you did, you accidentally made chipboard instead of paper. Making paper is not easy at all and making a books worth can take at least two weeks when done properly.
I haven't finished the video yet so idk if you said anything similar to this. But when I was a kid, as summer camp one year we made paper out of pocket lint. And also just lint from the dryer. so Jackie even though you probably won't see this. if you ever want to diy making paper you can use lint instead and you just need the device to squish it. I always thought it was the neatest craft back then. we added leafs and flowers we found at the camp too
If you use tiktok they have diys you can do with stuff you buy at the dollar store to make paper. You can make paper for less than 5 dollars. You take paper and water and blend it then you use a diy strainer w a frame and then sponge the water out (just roughly telling you the semi process) but there's great instructions on tiktok to do this for like 5 dollars
The best thing to do is run the pulp in the blender with the ingredients, that way it comes out smoother, and more flexible.
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I think the Japanese kit uses a cotton paper base whereas the Crayola uses a recycled paper base, typically when you make paper you let it dry by pressing it then, air dry, some people even stick it to the window. The Crayola kit didn't come with any kind of binder, which is absolutely fine! You can easily make paper at home without any binder. Also, homemade paper made tends to be more brittle, and thicker, so it's not really made to be folded more as an accent for scrapbooks, journals, and cards.
The crayola kit probably had the binder already added to the pulp. Ira suggested it might be powdered PVA glue.
@Yellow Tablet It's what I do.
@Yellow Tablet It suggest you to use more punctuations. :D
I'm literally so grateful for TH-camrs making videos to keep me sane during UK lockdown that's lasted a year... ❤️
Right there with you. By the 27th it will be a year exactly
Are you in lockdown again? Here in Italy we are in lockdown again, for 20 days... It's day 2 and I am losing my mind already....we have been in lockdown for a LONGER time last year, but It seems like we are going back in time now and I don't like It... Because of that I feel you so much...
@@redbear4350 We sort of relaxed the lockdown and then had to go back and redo it over a few days or even a week... I don’t remember. This is known as lockdown 3 but it’s just one big lockdown since the start.
A little less than a month for you hopefully. Best of luck 🤞🏻
Agreed
Where I live, it’s already been a year..
Why does Jackie sounds like she’s turning into the Cabbage man from avatar. “NO MY FELT” 😂🤣
Holy
NOT THE CABBAGE MAN
OMG YES THO 🤣🤣🤣
Hahahaha
OMG Yesssss
Sika: goes to get water
Sika: comes back with a snack
Sika: goes back to get water only to drink it.
I think many people can relate to Sika
The look on Jackie's face when Sika comes back without it...priceless!
Ikr those 2 ladys make me laugh so much😂😂
they really are the greatest representation of siblings 😂
Sika got priorities
@@kurocyanide5781 lol yes
The binding agent is a dry pvc powder that connects the paper its kinda like powdered glue , it helps u write smoother not fully pvc it might contain ingredients like careeganan and stuff
No. It isn't. Pvc don't need so much time to dissolve and it doesn't become a snot in water.
@@tihirodrako8239 lmaoo shush
I think it's some kind of gum and it must be the traditional way to bind it.
The crayola one seems to use PVC and that's why it smelled like glue.
@@tihirodrako8239 its not completely pvc
@@fanaticaH yes but I dont think they would give tree gum it must be unnatural and I think it must contain some kind of pvc as it is intended for kids but I guess in the traditional method u would use tree gum or something
I think that in the crayola's kit you Need less Pulp and that Who wrote the instructions messed up with the quantity of the Pulp you Need, the sheet was too thic that's why It broke in Pieces. Try It again with lesser Pulp and see what happens.
Yeah it seems more like cardboard
@@BaeCat872 anyway with a wire mash , two Frames , magazine paper and a Blender you can obtain a good result without spending too much.
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Yup. I’ve made paper before and as soon as they spread out the Crayola one I said "eww, that’s gonna take forever to dry and it’s too thick. What is Crayola thinking?"
but it's not up to her to figure it out.
To be fair to the Crayola one, handmade paper sticking to it's drying surface and being extremely textural are both common papermaking hiccups w/o easy solutions. I used to make paper with my own home-made tools and dry the sheets on a mirror in the sun; they'd tear and stick to the mirror unless I washed it thoroughly every time.
I was thinking they should have removed both screens before drying that one. The other screen became embedded.
So I actually run a tiny home business making handmade paper (recycling various materials) and it's easy to get started by buying things from the dollar store. You can make a "mould and deckle" from photo frames and screen mesh. The problems you had in the video are common for beginners and get better with technique and practice. :)
I feel like Crayola's kit actually overcomplicated things? But then possibly made it more fun for kids. You definitely made cardboard and not paper though... XD The Japanese kit was also probably different because their traditional paper making technique is so different from the west.
Handmade paper will always be textured because it's essentially cold-pressed paper (like some watercolour paper) but you can make it smoother by leaving it in its press (mine is two pieces of cheap plywood) to dry or ironing whilst still damp. I think you can do additives like glue or cornstarch but I haven't needed to do that yet.
Once you find a technique that works for you it's such a soothing activity to do plus being able to make your own paper as a creative? Just... -chef's kiss-
The op shop photo frame is the exact same way I started. 😆 I add PVA and corn starch to my paper because it not only helps the paper to last longer but also helps to prevent bleeding when written on. There are so many ways to make paper though. I just love how accessible and versatile it is. ❤
@@deltahillcreative You've convinced me I must start trying this! :D I think I've somehow got lucky with my paper not bleeding so much cause of all the random things I end up recycling. XD
But yeah! Anyone can put their twist on it or do it in their own way and it's not difficult to start. I hope more people get into it. :D
Have you ever experimented with adding sizing to prevent ink from immediately soaking into the paper? You could basically make homemade watercolor or art paper that way.
@@orchdork775 I did a bit! Because I recycled paper from various sources, I started with just glue, which helped somewhat! The only dilemna I had was responsibly disposing of the water.
The shop is on hiatus now anyway. It was supposed to be a joint project but the other person never stepped up. :(
It's something I want to start again on my own, so I'll probably research and experiment with this more. :D
The binding agent is probably a chemically enhanced starch. I use corn starch mixed with PVA glue (1:2 *you may need a little water to help combine the two) which is then mixed with the pulp and water. I soak my shredded paper in a large mixing bowl of warm water for a few hours, pulp it with a stick blender and then pour it into a larger container. I'll then add about 2 cups of the starch/glue mixture and combine it all really well using my hands - gloves recommended. (I find this is the easiest way to work it all through and get rid of any major lumps. The more time spent here means smoother paper later.) This is also the point you'd add colours, scents or other things like flowers or glitter. I then spread the pulpy mixture onto my mesh, place more mesh on top, and feed it through my press. Once it's passed through a few times it goes onto the rack to dry for a few days. I don't take either piece of mesh off until it's completely dry.
There are types of paper that don't bend...that's not the kits fault. It's a type of paper and it's a small and thick paper. Lol. So it's not gonna bend. It's also not a smooth pulp...so it's not going to be a super smooth paper.
And the only reason it didn't peel is because it wasn't fully dry.
I think it was too much pulp. You might double check if you were supposed to push the pulp down that much when you measured it...that's probably also why it was too hard to turn the wheel.
I was thinking that too. I think they just put too much pulp
I feel like she misses information like this in a lot of her reviews. Doesn't understand the product and gives a bad review.
I think she's so harsh on some of these kits when sometimes its her own doing that some kits dont work out.
THIS.
Actually it's easier to remove when it's wet. I've never done it with dry paper it makes sense that is sticks when there is no barrier between the mesh an the fibers
All handmade paper is bumpy and not like what you get in the store. You are literally only using pulp and water, store paper uses a lot more ingredients. I think you guys used way too much pulp, and not enough patience 😂 You guys made a beautiful piece of handmade stationery. After you add the pulp and before you press it that’s when you can add little flowers and blades of grass or whatever flat decorations you want. Handmade/homemade stationery/paper is harder to write on then your lined school paper, but that is the beauty of it! You can see that it was handmade!! Try the crayola again, but go slower, enjoy the process, make sure your pulp is blended up in smaller pieces so it’s not so chunky. Your pulp was way way way to chunky. But you guys did great!! ❤️
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Great advice !
Have you made paper before?
All of this! Great advice. Papermaking is a slow process. The Crayola kit looked surprisingly well done for a crayola product.
It's not just the ingredients. Paper mills put their damp sheets through a heavy roller press. I also like handmade paper as an element for stuff like making cards or scrapbook layouts - it adds a nice texture, and the feathery torn edges can be gorgeous.
"am I supposed to be nice to you all the time?" with this, Sika said the basic rule of being a sibling.
Y e s
As an older sibling,
*_y e s_*
Definitely agreed as a younger sibling
Yup, I can relate.
Too true twin here and still with her and it's very interesting.
I think putting the paper in the oven for over 2 hours may have dried it out too much. Usually in papermaking they let it dry for 1-3 days like outside and pat it dry with a sponge. a much more gentle method than bake it to death.
The crayola kit just needed better instructions, also way more water and a dip method like the Japanese kit, the crayola one was brittle because the pulp wasn't thin enough or dry enough, and both screens should have been removed before drying
I think the quick oven thing was the faulty one, I guess they try to come up with quicker ways to do things so they aren't a hassle with desperate children but they're faulty.
Also I couldn't tell if putting it back in the oven ruined it. The paper seemed like a baked cracker so I wonder if they accidentally baked the paper.
@@fanaticaH it was a bit of everything, the paper was far too thick, it needs more water to mix it in then the water drains out, both kits had good parts, but the Japanese one did better because it allowed the paper to be fully incorporated and thin so you could control the thickness overall, the thicker the paper the more brittle
@@emilymulcahy I think maybe the instructions made quantity of fiber in the cup before adding water something confusing because it didn't specify if they meant compressed or not.
And I guess they meant not compressed.
@@fanaticaH I believe she said it requested compressed, but even then, uncompressed it wasn't enough water, I've made paper, neither kit was perfect but the Japanese one was better because you need an ungodly amount of liquid to make paper this way
@@emilymulcahy I wonder if it came on a sealed bag because it was already like premade.
I think maybe Jackie should try again with the Crayola kit because so much stuff happened that it's hard to pinpoint what was wrong. I was hoping Jackie did another try and dry it overnight, specially because she had to wait for the binding medium from the other kit anyway.
Was the premade fiber dried up?
Or maybe the instructions were badly written so Jackie didn't understand you need to add extra water?
Did they mess the paper by adding ink on the corners?
Did they have to take out the mesh before drying?
Was drying the paper on the oven bad advice from Crayola?
Did Sika accidentally slightly burn the paper in the oven?
Did Jackie misunderstood the end product and it wasn't made to bend?
At least I suspect you needed to remove both meshes before you put the paper in the oven because I don't think the meshes stand such heat.
tbh you're not supposed to bend homemade paper like that, they're bumpy and brittle by nature
also i think the binding agent must be starch
It honestly reminded me of wallpaper glue that was a little watered down...but it's what we used in 6th grade art class for our paper machete project. Definitely VERY snotty and slime like!
They never take things like this into consideration when reviewing these kits. I have to say I've been getting annoyed at these reviews because it seems like anything is a reason for a bad review.
@@Shoonam they're doing it from the perspective of someone who doesn't know anything about the process, which is what the average consumer buying a kit would expect. Nowhere in either kit are we told not to bend the paper, and your average consumer is going to think "ah yes, paper, we bend that"
@@dawnthegoblin I disagree in this case. I know this is generally her stance in her reviews, but even the picture on the box shows textured paper.
I dont know anything about paper bending at all. So if it bumpy it wouldnt bend? How would an average consuner would know that lol
These papers are just one of kind that are thick , they are never made to bent. And they are bumpy in the nature. And papermaking is really long process that requires patience and focus, simple mistake will cost a lot.
Ah yes the best medicine after surgery, Jackie bringing the salt!!!
I hope you're well and healthy 😁💖
Best of luck on the recovery!❤❤
Thank you guys bunches!
I wish you a fast recovery!
I hope you recover well !
i love how sika's hair is different every vid! Its like a fun surprise every episode😍🤣
“More of a treaty”... You can tell she’s a teacher by the words she uses most of the time. Not just for this but it makes me smile ☺️ and giggle a little.
Wait.... if they'res a saltycrafter.... could there possibly be a sugar crafter??!!
That would be me? I’m the closest thing to it lol
@@nerdecrafter lol🤣
They did some Japanese deserts.
That‘s when you can enjoy the rare sight of „SugaryCrafter“
Is there a salty and sweet crafter.....
@@nerdecrafter what about a salty and sweet crafter........
Hey Jackie! One of my parakeets passed today so you are just the person I need to make my day better! Thank you 😊
I'm so sorry😢
I know Jackie will feel for you, too.
NO NOT DA PARAKEET T-T hope u doing okiiii :)
Im sorry for u 😞😞....
So sorry to hear. 😢 Hugs
I’m sorry for you 😢
As someone who likes to recycle paper myself, this makes it look harder then it needs to be 😂😀
Oh and adding some cornstarch will help you to make paper that won't absorb top much ink. Maybe that is the secret binding agent? 🤔
Hey so what's your favorite craft to do with recycled paper? I want to make some but don't have any fresh ideas for it lol
The only issue I can see with that is that the cornstarch could mold
@@pinkpineapple9663 I use it a lot for note paper (teacher, so I take a lot of them), but also in crafting cards or tags, or making notebooks / journals for friends :)
@@pinkpineapple9663 I've been trying to make some papers to use in a bullet journal with themed stickers! C:
the kiwico mini notebook kit has great instructions for making paper! if you're curious:
it gives you thin paper strips, tissue paper, colored cardstock, a jar, a tray and mesh. you shake the paper strips, colored tissue paper, and bits of cardstock together with water. you get a tray (like a baking sheet) with water in it and set the tray they give you that has holes, like the crayola one, in it. put one sheet of mesh on, pour in the paper pulp, and move it around with your hands. set the next sheet of mesh on top and flip the sandwich of mesh and pulp onto a paper towel. put another on top and roll it with the jar to squeeze out extra water. switch out the paper towels until they aren't getting soaked anymore, and take off the mesh. let it dry overnight. there you have homemade paper! they use it as a cover for a mini notebook in the kit.
I literally just found this channel. I have a daughter that's very crafty and I watch nerdyecrafter now to get her opinion on things. I just feel like she's one of the few honest youtubers. So I completely trust her opinion. Thank you Jackie your channel really means alot to me.
Aww 🥰
We love sika's ever changing hair we all wish we had her style
When I saw Sika in the thumbnail I was like: *YESSS, MORE STISTER TIME*
Edit: *why is this comment getting so much attention-*
Lol fr
Yes _stister_ guess english gave up on ya real quick
@@that1meep151 Ik, but sometimes Jackie says stister
@@cheesegur *Boii that was meant as a joke but okay then-*
@@sam.sammy.xqq.99 *bruh that was a joke as well* _calm down kid_
“We’re banging”
👀 *checks to make sure I’m not on a different “tube” site*
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Ahahahahahah 😂
Lol
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I am not really a crafter to be honest. But I love your videos. They helped me getting through rough days in hospital and gave me sind good laughs and smiles at home. Best to watch on a not so good day. You give more to people then you think
Sending you gentle hugs
@@nerdecrafter oh thank you
I humbly disagree, I think the crayola kit wasn’t that bad for once
Exactly!!! It's like she has tunnel vision now.
Yep. The issues with that kit were a matter of practice.
It literally ripped when they tried removing it from the mesh, that's not good
@@FuriosasWarRig because she didn’t actually do it properly, she used too much pulp and handmade paper is supposed to be thick bumpy and brittle so the crayola kit isnt that far off
Eeeehhh school can wait because Jackie and Sika are out to play- WITH CRAPOLA I mean- Crayola-
lol
Yesssss
hahah lol
Looooooloooooooolooooooool.
*cough CRAPOLA cough*
Jackie: *Posts*
People: *Wanna see some real speeedd???!!*
Ikr
You can use a household iron to help dry/flatten your sheets. You can even spray a little spray starch like you’d use on a shirt to make it stiffer. That Crayola paper was just too thick to dry easily and not crack. But paper making isn’t like baking - it’s inexact and organic. And totally fun (and cheap) to experiment and freeform!
Paper maker here!! 👋🏻☺️ loved this vid! It’s cool because you demo’d both eastern and western paper making techniques (western with crayola and eastern with the Japanese one)
Honestly makes me want to make an even better kit that would CRUSH crayolas 😂
It’s a super simple process once you have all of the materials!
Thank you Jackie for this video. One of my rats just passed away... I'm heartbroken and my head hurts so much from crying already. I chilled out while watching the video. Thank you
When you are so early you don't know what to say.
Love you both Jackie and Sika❤️❤️❤️❤️
-A Salty Grain
Same 😀😀
I’m going to disagree with your opinion on the crayola kit. Homemade paper is literally like that. It’s bumpy and not super bendy. Your sheet was probably a little thick but I was pretty impressed with your results
Keep watching for the Japanese one
@@nerdecrafter But it's still valid to say that a lot of handmade paper looks exactly like what you produced with the Crayola kit. Watch SeaLemon - she recently made paper using her own equipmemt and it turned out similar : textured and not flexible.
@@nerdecrafter - the Japanese ONE is NO better than the Crayola one in THIS CASE. You guys DID not use an oven thermometer, so your oven was NOT in the correct temperature. You put TOO much material in the machine tray, your pulp was TOO thick. Certainly the Crayola instrictions are laclking steps (but by now you and Sika are EXPERTS at "figuring it out" 🤣). Also, the temperature in Canada (it's SUPER cold!!!) makes a difference! There are a lot of things that I have to wait for Summer to do them 😔 or else they don't cure correctly.
@@SoniSoni-wp7xz 8 year olds use oven thermometers? Are these 8 year olds also experts at "figuring it out"?
@@Jayde419 it say on the box that adult help is needed
Can we just appreciate how Jackie wears the same hat every single vid 😯🤩🤩🤩🤩
The process of the Japanese kit looks like so much fun! if a fair bit more complicated... and Y'all are missing out oatmeal is amazing, I said what I said
Jackie and Sika, first hello and I love watching you both. Just wanted to let you know that, many moons ago, my Mom used to do artwork using homemade paper. Mostly beachy scenes. She worked alongside my Dad, who sold artwork to hotels and other businesses on the southeast coast, NC down through Florida, where they live. When my Mom started her own artwork they sold that as well. Her art was beautiful. She incorporated beach sand, shells, starfish, sand dollars, and dried plants. I used to help make the paper when I was visiting and even made a few pieces of art myself. So much fun 😍
P.S.: the process is more "like" the Japanese kit, but more involved and on a much larger scale. We had a high powered blender only for paper making. Sorry, but I don't remember the specific binding agent, but yes, it was gloopy.
Day 4 of asking NerdECrafter to review the Nintendo Labo Variety Kit
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That sounds cool
I literally got that paper kit 2 weeks ago... I don’t like the method Crayola says to use, I use the method of putting the pulp into a big bucket and dropping the mold and deckle to collect the pulp. I tried it with the Crayola kit and it worked!
Jackie, did you know Crayola has a calligraphy set.
Great video Jackie and Sika
SIKA!!!! You are a whole mood! Of all of your "looks" today is my favorite! You look AMAZING. The pixie hair is perfect...true beauty!
I love how Sikas bad words are the sound of a dolphin.
"It's for science!" Oh! The sacrifices Jackie has to do for science! 🤣
#feedsika
Who else wants her to try diamond painting raise your hand ✋
Me! ✋🏻
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Me
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I made paper as a kid . Used panty hose wire hanger. Toilet paper for pulp and glue for binding agent
Hi I am a big fan and I love your cash and trash series. Keep going
Jackie’s hand sign for “magazine” 🤏 is ASL for “bird” lol
Who else is watching this after a stressful day?
Me ✋😔
Me 😞😔
Me
Me
ME😱😭😧😳
Someday, I want to see Jackie go on a salt-filled adventure to the Crayola Experience.
Same
Thank you for making the end of my day so much better! I love you both! Much love for my fellow grains! 💜
Me and my daughter now dance to the "figure it out" song... 🤣🤣🤣
The Crayola pulp looks like the lint that collects in my dryer....
I'm guessing the pulp contained an adhesive - when I made paper as a kid we used a little wallpaper paste to make it work.
I know the Crapola kit had clearer instructions, I preferred the end product from the Japanese kits. Now I wanna go make some paper again!
Jackie: “*Crayola Kit* I actually have hope on this one”
Me: “Ooh yeah... free money......I’ll take this bet Jackie!”
ALSO
Jackie to Sika: “Have you finished making noise?”
Me: “Ooh yeah, double or nothing.... I’ll take this bet too, Jackie!” 😂😂😂
I mean, if you want an affordable kit they can't include things like a blender, and a bin is a lil big to be able to include...
Maybe the bin could’ve been the packaging?
@@ashh3512 That's a good point
I used to have a kid that came with a bin and hand powered blender and it was also by crayola so..
@@iamapizzaindisguise7730 I hope the kid is okay now
@@aliyah638 think they meant to say kit lmao
Binding agents could be glue,baking powder,lye or corn starch
Sister of the year award goes to sika *What am I supposed to do be nice to you all the time *2021
The binder is a starch (corn, potato, tapioca, etc.). You can improve the writing surface by ironing the paper after it dries. ✌🏻🎨☕️
Me: pulls up u tube and sees jackies new vid
My brain:ALL RIGHT ITS TUESDAY!
My finger:I AM SPEED
My brain when I see the title:AW CRAP ITS CRAPOLA AGAIN
Jackie:Are we simping over wood?
Me: 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Aww shoot here we go again
Jackie.. I want to see you and Sika make *Birthday Cake Popcorn* theres tons of recipes for it. plzzzzz?
I love how All Might is just hanging out in the back... creepily
I study printmaking and know a lot about paper and how it's made (my second year was all about making my own printing paper). I'm pretty sure the binding agent is a specific type of glue, your paper is more fragile with less glue and more water absorbing. Since the kit comes from japan, it will probably be japanese paper or awagami (typically very very thin and lightweigt, also really soft). The glue also makes the paper a bit more smooth for easier writing and/or drawing, the more glue/agent the smoother the paper and more vast. The japanese kit is basically how I learned to make paper (except I did not use an agent so my paper was chonky and more brittle). My teacher also said they use some type of rice glue in japan for their paper, it looks a lot like mochi dough imo when I first saw it! You could try and use craft glue, but I suppose it will mostly dissolve in the water and not really interact with the pulp how it's supposed to. I hope this kinda explained it! I dont know the name of the glue tho, since different types of paper/different countries use different types of glue! Loved this video, lots of love from Belgium!
Watching this I was just thinking about how much I quote you on the regular! I constantly tell my kids "stop breaking my stuff", I sing "figure it out" at work at least once a week, and "English number one" mainly when I'm to tired to function. It's kind of sad though bc no one else knows what I'm referring to 😅
"Sometimes we are.."
B a n g i n g
Lmao
@@sunnesideup9897 lol
giggity
**Insert meme of someone spitting their drink**
@@cassandracastro2759 why does that fit so well
I mention this in like every comment but like that MHA merch 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
You should totally try any "Mi Alegría" kit, the saltiness
So glad you posted a video today. I am having a hard day today and I am grateful for the laughs.
Gentle hugs your way❤️
Girl you and sika always make my day!! I have multiple severe health issues and I'm not able to do much so having some fun silly entertainment is great!! Love you guys!!
Whether intentional or not Sika just makes things dirty
Sika: bang your buck
Me:😂😂😂😂😂
Even though the Japanese one is a longer and harder process, the end result seems worth it. Crapola made thick crumbly paper. 😭
So yeah Jake!! Also Sika!
Today THE WHOLE DAY I BINGED ON CASH OR TRASH
ALL THE 34 VIDEOS I STILL 41 TO GO
I am so glad you popped up on my recommended!! You have become one of my favorites so quickly!!! I've been binge watching since yesterday 😂
I mean I prefer when those kits don't give us every single thing you have at home already. Wasting materials on something you'll use once? Nah
Agree. It's way too wasteful to include things people already have. And as a parent whose kids love kits like this...I don't want more junk even if it wasn't bad for the planet
@@Skittl1321 I hope you DO realize you're paying for a kit that's supposed to be COMPLETE and ready to craft, yes? If it's not fully ready to craft, you shouldn't pay full price for it.
@@isabellegoegebuer2777 they can’t give you every single thing that you need in a kit then less ppl would be able to buy it cause the price would increase plus if things you need are just normal household things what’s the issue
Have you ever thinking about trying recipes from other TH-camrs? I can suggest EmmyMadeInJapan's channel! There's a couple videos of recipes she's made from the retro recipe books to recipes that are fun and weird in a good way!
It's worth a look!
Also, it's interestingly pleasing to me that Crayola made a paper making craft, since they DO eco friendly stuff in their factories! Using solar powered panels to get solar energy, reusing scrap plastics for their plastic marker tubes, re-using excess wax for crayons, and (My personal favorite) manufacturing colored pencils with reforested wood, aka they use trees and replant a tree for every one cut down.
Crapola? More like Careola!
Me the week before last: YEAH! Wait, where's Sika? 😢😢😭😭 *Saltiness Intensifies*
Last Friday: It's SIKA!! *dances*
The other day I was trying to fix something and started singing: "figure it out..buh buh buh..figure it out.” Thank you for the catchy and fitting song lovelies ❤️
Each time you sing to figger it out... I dance with you 😂😁🤗 thanks for making me smile ☺
8:20 the most Sika moment in history 😂
Seriously though, if i we're in Crayola marketing, I'd so hire you guys to say my product sucks. After all... people gonna buy that sheet any way
I bet the dislikes are from crayola and all their alt accounts 👁👄👁👍
Probably😂
There's no other answer.
Dang that have a lot of ALT accounts
"Crapolla"🤣😂🙃🙂 LOL
They should thank her, because She can provide them a good amount of suggestions to improve their products.
I absolutely love sikas hair in this video, it looks so good!! ❤
I have been binge-watching all of these videos I think it's been a week since I love it I listen to it while I do my diamond paintings
Is your waffle maker ok??? I hope those skittles didn’t ruin it!
The crayola kit actually looked about right. It's a clever and cute way to teach kids about the basics of papermaking. You used too much pulp and didn't thin it out enough, and I think you cooked it for a bit too long. Handmade paper is crumbly like that if you crush it like that, so that was normal. The paper you get in the store is completely different and goes through a bunch of different processes before it actually reaches packaging.
Hey good comment 😃
POV: your early but have nothing to say
@TEC morgan eh, its ok
OML- JACKY HEARTED IT-
POV: i am not early because i have school
Not sure how that is a point of view
@@KingLordLele Who asked though?
I have made paper before as well in like kindergarten I went on a field trip to a paper factory and it was super cool! Quite loud but really fun
Sika offers a balance to this channel that I absolutely adore. ❤️
I have made paper before, and the japanese kit is closer to the actual process. A blender is a necessary tool to get the pulp to the proper consistency. it is very obvious the crayola kit cut a lot of corners, which is why it came out as bad as it did. Having as much pulp as you did, you accidentally made chipboard instead of paper. Making paper is not easy at all and making a books worth can take at least two weeks when done properly.
me staring at all might and todoroki in the back round.
Meh too i love mha
Todoroki is my 2d soulmate
Me too. Background k? Good grammer is a good thing.
I DEMAND WE CHANGE THE ENOUGH JIBBE JABBAH LETS SEE WHATS INSIDE INTO
"Enough Jibbeh Jabbah, let's see what's insidah"
It’s so fun watching you two. I adore Sika’s “Liza Minnelli” hairstyle. Very pretty.
I haven't finished the video yet so idk if you said anything similar to this. But when I was a kid, as summer camp one year we made paper out of pocket lint. And also just lint from the dryer. so Jackie even though you probably won't see this. if you ever want to diy making paper you can use lint instead and you just need the device to squish it. I always thought it was the neatest craft back then. we added leafs and flowers we found at the camp too
I watch a lot of paper making. You don’t actually need a binding agent. I wonder what that was
It's probably just a starch. Or a powdered adhesive.
POV : You clicked on the video and scrolled right to the comments.
Haha true 😂
Not sure how that is a point of view
@@KingLordLele Do you have a microscope I could borrow? I'm trying to find who asked.
Yep
jackie: a fan sent this to me
also jackie: so I spent 35$ on this
wait...
I've seen TH-cam videos of traditional silk dyeing and paper making in Japan, and the processes are so interesting!!!!
If you use tiktok they have diys you can do with stuff you buy at the dollar store to make paper. You can make paper for less than 5 dollars. You take paper and water and blend it then you use a diy strainer w a frame and then sponge the water out (just roughly telling you the semi process) but there's great instructions on tiktok to do this for like 5 dollars