Is the 2023 Subaru Solterra a better SUV than aToyota bZ4x for the PRICE?
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- FIRST DRIVE: The Solterra is here and Subaru has worked again with Toyota to create this electric SUV. The Solterra is the sibling to the Toyota bZ4x and is meant to competitor with the Tesla Model Y, Ford Mach-E and VW ID.4. On the outside you will find many specific Subaru touches like the grill, wheels, and flat black cladding. On the inside is the largest infotainment screen on any Subaru. Powering the Solterra are (2) electrtic motors that come standard. Is the 2023 Subaru Solterra a better SUV than aToyota bZ4x for the PRICE?
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I'm 98% positive they accidentally mixed up the names for each brand. BZ4X defo sounds like a Subaru name, and Solterra is perfectly aligned with Toyota... Am I right?
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Was just thinking the same thing. Especially when you consider Toyota had the Solara.
Things that make you go, hmmmmmm.
Yep
I totally agree!
I really love how detailed your reviews are!
Subaru would put awd on a tricycle. I do respect their hustle though. This looks like another solid entry into their lineup
You are so very right about that.
Subaru is always My first choice if They would install a normal wheel and dash............Paul
Finally! fog lights are back in style again!, it so annoying that most car makers are getting rid of fog lights. we need that in bad fog!
thank you for the great review on the Subaru, Joe
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@@PS-js9oh 😂 I voted for mega king! 😎🐸
Wow I didn't even know this existed, I'm happy Toyota and Subaru are sharing resources and engineering, while still keeping in touch with their own separate cues.
I am so happy to share it with you!
Engineering of both cars done completely By BYD in China.....including the batteries.............Paul
Awesome stuff Joe and Lori! Loved the On Throttle action. Best Solterra review out there!!
I'm a tad confused about the "is it better than the BZ4X". It's the exact same vehicle, made with slight tweaks so it could be released under another brand. Both the Solterra and BZ4X are literally the same exact machine. As far as I know, both versions are done by Toyota. Subaru is way behind times and is being saved by Toyota here (which has a lot of shares in Subaru), by releasing a battery powered vehicle. So, if you like this car, pick your best color and that's about it.
The only big difference is Toyota has a FWD model and Subaru doesn't. Otherwise, it's as you said.
Saved is a bit far fetch.. Subaru never needed saving .. it was a joined venture as many car brands do, have done and will continue to do.. no one needed saving...
I absolutely live for your reviews, Joe! I found you and Lori (sp) while I was researching the Solterra after it was first announced. Your interior space contextualization is hilarious. “Two granola bars,” “an avocado,” “dog treats,” these things crack me up.
I’ve been waiting for your full review. Glad you finally dropped it. Thanks for all of your work!
One question: if you were in the market for a BEV, is the Solterra something you would seriously consider?
Wow the color it is really good !!! Well done Joe ! As usual best you tube car review !
I think it's a very great start for Subaru and their EV line. Definitely a strong contender. Always happy to see Lori getting a chance to ride with Joe.🙂
This didn't age well 🤣
Outstanding video! Both informative, and more importantly, ENTERTAINING! Take care, Be safe.
Wow that’s about $20k difference from the Forester Touring. At $5/gal, I suspect it will take at least 10yrs to break even and start seeing the saving.
Agreed, Lori is the master videographer as with any Raiti's Rides Vlog! This is not my cup of tea personally, but it's the content and Joe, you ARE the content! Thanks you two!
Love your sense of humor. As always, great in-depth review!
Joe is like Salesman of all cars! Love the review semi detail but enough for newbies like me
Like that color combination and the differences from the BZ 👍
I agree with you!
Terrific coverage, Thanks much.
You are so very welcome Kenny!
Magnificent Review. Thank you
I love it Joe and Lori and keep up the work and I love the video lot 💯
Great video as usual!
Thanks man for letting me share it with you!
For me personally it depends on brand preference. I prefer Toyota personally
Nothing wrong with that.
Toyota may be close to running out of the $7,500 fed. tax credit, if so, the Subaru looks better! Check on that before buying one.
@@howard1450 Toyota should runout order n the third quarter this year.
I’ve seen all the controversy surrounding both them. I feel like this is a more normal ev. The competition is packing in horsepower going for a performance feel. Toyota and Subarus vision is to make this feel like a family hauler to get you from one place to another but without the performance and power
You are so very right about that!
I wish the price was more normal too, then.
My concern is the charging speed.
The main killer for me is the range like if I’m paying 52k for an ev it only having a range of 220 miles is not enough. For that much money you could buy a Tesla model 3 long range that has 334 miles of range trade off being not being able to off road.
Hyundai/Kia and most other competitors offer better options (in range, charge curve, and capacity) for the same price and are decently available in numbers. That’s the problem.
keep grinding loving these new vehicles
You got it man!
Love the video! I am definitely interested in this vehicle! I went to see it at the Montreal ev show
The two tone paint idiocy makes this look like the owner is driving around with paint primer. Plastic cladding is one thing. Paint/appliqué made to look like plastic cladding is just whack!
Love it I’d buy one.Joe &Lorie love your channel keep up the great work.
I have watched every TH-cam review of the new Solterra out there, and I have to tell you that it is such a breath of fresh air for me to watch yours, which is so much more detailed and precise. It is obvious you are very knowledgable, and after watching this review I immediately hit the subscribe button! So, about this new EV... I absolutely LOVE it. I think the styling is superior to that of Toyota's sister EV, and there is no match as far as capability. Yes, the Subaru version is more expensive, but look at all that is included, which in my mind makes it a better value over the BZ4X for the money. Of course, I'm a Subaru owner and fan, so I may be a bit biased. I loved my 2012 Forester SUV, I love my current Subaru, which is a fully loaded 2017 Legacy 6-cylinder, and I am planning on trading in my Legacy sometime next year for a new Solterra Touring EV. Can't wait to drive this amazing new model from Subaru!
joe is the best in the end of business end :)
BZ4x sn't even out on the market and it is now only a prototype.
We still dont know the full capability of it
👏😮 Joe @ Lori excellent review. LOVE the Solterra @ Bz4X, Just a little out of my price range. One final thought. Wish that all manufacturers dump the Gloss Black. There has to be some other alternative trims that don't show glare @ fingerprints???
Thanks again
This was a great informative review, thanks! But towing capacity wasn't mentioned. How does the Solterra compare with the AWD bZ4x for towing capability?
This Subaru Solterra it an amazing vehicle I think it's a dandy of a vehicle.
I knew you would like this one Luis!
@@RaitisRides Yes I love this Solterra and I think for $50,000.00 I think both the BZ4X and the Solterra are a dandy. Neither the Solterra nor the BZ4X are perfect.
This thing looks sick.
Good job Team Raiti.
Thanks for tuning in!
Looks like a Subaru, a RAV4 and a Tesla got together and this is their baby. lol
I think you may be right David!
Very informative. Did they say anything about towing capabilities? Thanks
Shout-out to Lori's always' excellent camera work!
That's the nicest looking Subaru I've ever seen
I am glad that you are all about this me.
You are the greatest reviewer of car I have ever seen. Great job!
Excellent job on the review; very lively and humorous. I'm looking forward to seeing the Solterra in person!
Hey! Saw you review the i4 at the auto show, will you do a full review (test drive) soon?
Both are appealing & compelling, especially for EV newbies
Interesting comparison, Joe & Lory
You are so very right about that!
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WOAH! I wasn't expecting this from Subaru I'm in to cars and this is probably the best electric car I've seen a while
I am so glad that I can bring it to you!
What about the toyotabz4x
1hr DC fast charging is unexceptable!!
@@wainwrights2744 i saw a review yesterday said 80% 1/2 hr fast dc...
@@jergernice1 that's the European version. The US version will use CATL battery with 1hr DC fast charging to 80%. (Supply issues and I believe they have to sell a quota in europ or pay steep fines)
“110% humidity …and you’re trying to hook up with some girl from the beach”. Classic!
Great review as always. I’m on the reservation list so now I need to make a decision. This video really helps. Nice job Lori.
Just got one WOW i love it long time Subaru owner very happy in Santa Barbara
Hey Raiti's Rides Can You Drive The 2023 Kia Sportage X Line
I have one coming soon!
@@RaitisRides Thank You What is The Video Tomorrow
@@Sunjib12345 you’ll found out tomorrow it’s always surprise to see what video will be out everyday
Hey Joe and Lori, and also the Raiti's Rides family, today is "Busy Monday" and how are y'all doing today? 😃
So today review is about the Subaru Solterra or also known as a the cousin of the Toyota bZ4X. Besides that this "all new 2023 Subaru Solterra" is a new electric model for Subaru and it's also Subaru's first electric vehicle and also been well awaited.
Which means it a special vehicle for Subaru, with 2 electric motors providing *215-hp* and a *0-60* *in* *6.1* *seconds* *From* *an* *fully* *electric* *vehicle* (now that's sad Subaru 💀).
Plus it haves AWD, 8.3 inches of Ground Clearance, "X-MODE and Hill Ascent/Descent Assist", "StarDrive Zero-Emissions All-Electric Drivetrain", "EyeSight Driver Assist Technology," Automatic Climate Control","Blind-Spot Monitoring". Basically the basics.
Besides that what is your favorite EV-compact SUV or hybrid SUV, and like always *ON* *THROTTLE* 😎
Hey Micheal! We appreciate you so very much!
@@RaitisRides thanks Joe and Lori, also what do y'all think about the new 2023 BMW 7 series/2023 BMW i7 🤔
It’s testing out closer to 6.1 seconds to 60, not blistering quick but plenty for most of us.
@@tpolerex7282 oops, sorry I guess I spelled the time a bit off 😅. Thanks for letting me know
which front is good? the bz4x or the solterra
(personally i like the bz4x)
Everyone is going to have their favorite for sure!
The front literally reminds me of the Ford Mach-E. It’s great though and can definitely be a great seller.
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wow, raiti throwing existential crises in the middle of the review , how big is the universe? why are we here?
nice going man
Its got a better name for sure
This is so very true!
Base model Solterra is 8" information screen with AWD. Base on the BZRX is. 11", but front wheel drive.
The only thing they have to prove is they understand infrastructure. Great work Laurie.
I love your Subaru solterra
I am so glad that you like this one.
I like some of the design elements, although this EV segment suffers from over-design. All that flat black plastic will soon be gray!
Hello
Hey there!
I’m liking the Solterra more and more. I currently drive a Forester. I didn’t test drive the Solterra but I sat in the drivers seat just to see if the funny HUD vs steering wheel works for me. 2 years wait list and geez, it’s very expensive - worse for me as I’m in Canada. Geez 💰💰 I’d choose Solterra over BZ4X even though they’re extremely similar 😊
Does the infotainment system have a dark mode?
Hi Raiti, how much are the estimated electricity costs to keep the Soltara charged per year?
Subaru did a decent thing with this Solterra. And I'm glad they gave it an actual name instead of some alphabet soup mix-up like the bz4x. I wish the price was lower though to reflect the low range 😕 but the interior is well sorted and they've definitely made a name for themselves with sticking to standard AWD. Great review Joe and Lori!!! Y'all stay killing it with these epic reviews!!!
Alphabet soup? BZ for Beyond Zero and 4X is the size it has. The thing is with having AWD the choice is much higher price to put in a bigger battery or have a lower range.
@@seanroge I like the bZ designation. It distinguishes the models as EV. With Subaru, there's no distinction. It's like Kia with "EV." What's EV6? What's the big difference between "EV" and "bZ"?
@@benjaminsmith2287 Trying to figure out your question. Toyota’s EV line will all use BZ then the last letter and number will be size and style of vehicle. Beyond Zero is just a marketing thing it is just their EV line.
@@seanroge I was supporting your point. "BZ" is just a naming convention like "EV" is for Kia. It's for an electric vehicle line.
I have driven this car it’s great comfy and smooth range and charging is the only concern
Nice review. But I myself don't like the black plastic cladding Subaru is using on their new cars. It just look cheep. If it was painted body color, it would have been so much nicer. Keep up the good work. Like your reviews.
I wonder what the interior quality is like. I’ve had an absurd number of cabin rattles in my 2020 Outback.
Beautiful talented Lori 👏👍👍
She really is amazing!
That’s a nice color
I am so glad that you are liking this one.
Cut back on some of that black cladding and this exterior isn’t too bad.
I know how you feel!
THX Joe; however, I would rather have a hybrid in this vehicle until the battery technology catches up. A hybrid would also have regenerative brakes and get you at least 400 to 500 miles on a tank of gas, if not more. Toyota RAV4 XSE will take you approximately 594 miles per tank.
Whats the battery warranty? I’d like to purchase but i need to have guarrantee the battery can be replaced by subarru incase it fails
That is such a great question!
@@RaitisRides yeah, seems its hard to find an answer,. Call the dealer here in norcal, they said they dont have details yet..
Very sharp vehicle. It is a car I would consider. Subaru, call me when the range doubles.
You may not get that call.
@@RaitisRides I do a regular long distance desert run 400mi each way. No charging stops. So my next car has to be a Hybrid. Or I'll convert my current car to hybrid if "gas only" cars become verboten.
It will be a while before EVs can go 400+ miles.. I think the farthest range I've seen yet is 300 range.
Love the styling of The Subaru it is Awesome Good job Joe and Lori
Thanks for saying that and for letting us share it with you!
You’re at the Lobero Garage in SB :) I’m from there
Really like the looks and interior nice Subaru.
Thanks for watching!
Great video as usual. Very informative. One small thing though, it's not the first Subaru to have the digital rear view mirror. It's been available on the Ascent since 2019.
Definitely the winner! The Subaru continues to be a Subaru but all Electric!
Beautiful Car
Love your enthusiasm and humor. 220 mile range is disappointing and long recharge time. Tesla model 3 is still out in front in my opinion.
thank you
You are so very welcome!
It's a interesting car by the way. Personally I whould have all that black trim in body color by the way .
Don’t think your special because you beat me, you don’t get an award ok? Jk.🤣. Good to see you man.
@@Kmar701 lol what's up.
good call man!
@@Reaperguy67 i’m good man. 🤣
@@Kmar701 good to hear. It's been hot where Im at.
I love the reviews like always, but all I see from this is "Do you like the Subaru bZ4x or the Toyota Solterra better?"
Subaru should refresh the Legacy
We will see what they do!
I’m sold!
What about range per charge ..?
If an STI version comes into production, I hope it has 550 to 700 bhp. We're talking stepping on Tesla ground.
Subaru is 20% owned by the Toyota Motor Corporation. That's why the build quality, reliability and durability is so good.
Dealerships are screwing over customers, charging 8 to 10K over MRSP. Sadly, idiots are buying at the price gouging dealership prices.
Subaru and Toyota: yes ms teacher we worked on the homework together
Does Solterra has a bumpy ride? I do not like the ride of Forester Sport trim because it is very bumpy for me. This one looks like the sport trim.
everytime I watch his video, I feel like I should really be working out lol
These electric car are still way too expensive for normal people. Even though this is considered low price for an electric car they need to be half as much money if they really want people to switch from gas.
agreed
They will just make gas way more expensive than electricity.
Idk youd be surprised what Ive seen with regular people getting into cars they have no business getting. But here at least they get a 7,500 tax credit, and electricity is cheap. I have solar, if I had this vehicle I would pay maybe 50 bucks a month to charge it for 900 mile trip. I don’t want to think about how much that would cost me for my current Subaru
Can you review all trim of the solterra
The gloss black is wy to much, but everything else looks pretty good.
Great input Omar!
I was waiting for this vehicle since I heard about it. Great review by the way. The vehicle looks great, but it needs some improvements; the first one RANGE, it should be close to 300 miles; 222 miles for the Touring is too low in my opinion. In a long trip, range anxiety would be a factor. Inside of the car, the glove compartment shouldn’t have cloth. The console is way too small; the open space underneath it is not too useful; instead of doing that, they should’ve thought in making the console more useful. Too bad it doesn’t have a frunk. The car looks good, but I know SUBARU CAN DO BETTER. I am not 100% sold with this version; after all is a 51K car.
I’m still stuck on suburu new color selection as of late. Didn’t think they have a solid suv line.
What’s going on with black side front trim??? Looks like they ran out of the color and use the left overs of the black cars. Not a nice touch.
Maximum range of all the ev's is estimated at under 100 km/h speeds. They are good only for city driving. Cold temperature and 120-130km/h speed are range killers not to mention towing a trailer. New diesel engines are very close with fuel efficiency to to the evs at highway speed.
I’m thinking about get one
You had me cracking up with the commentary this time, especially with the line about picking up some weird girl at the beach and holding the pet brush in the teeth.
Santa Baarbara is a beautiful area!
Excellent review! I predict this will be a homerun for Subaru, as the ID4 (looks like a RAV4) is for VW
I’m sorry, zank for price,zank for speed ,zank for charging,zank for range and I’m sorry is not for me. Nice review 👍
I know this one is not for everyone, That is for sure!
Milo’s in the house!!!!✊🏿💯🏁🏁
Hey man! I appreciate you making it!
@@RaitisRides we have to support the best channels Joe.youre the man😊
the camera in the rear view mirror really does make it feel like we're in a video game.
Solterra is a rebadge Bz4x. AWD with dual motor on Toyota is slightly cheaper than the Subuaru equivalent.