Subaru & Toyota Have To Fix This Battery Issue Leaving bZ4X & Solterra Dead - It Happened To Me!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 พ.ค. 2023
- Kyle had his review unit bZ4X 12v battery die on him in just a few hours of being left. Crazy! Hope Toyota can come up with a fix ASAP for this
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I got my Subaru Solterra in late December 2022. In early July it would not start, called dealer, said it was probably the 12-volt batter. We jump-started it, then left the charger on until fully charged. OK until early August it happened again. Took it to dealer, they tested the 12-volt and found it was not holding a charge, and will replace the battery (that was yesterday, waiting for the battery to arrive and be installed). Other than that, I love my Solterra and get lots of compliments (it's red, very sharp looking). We do not pay for electricity to charge it as we have an oversized solar panel system for our house, which also provides enough power to charge the Solterra, and also some left-over to sell back to the power company - this is the only way to go for EV owners to the grid is not over-taxed by EV owners.
Great to hear the type of issues a car might have when it's new. They'll get it fix. Looking forward for the video. And great to see you getting better on your health. Cheers.
Majority of the 12v issues were with the first cars that were delivered because they sat for months waiting the recall.
My daily driver (Solterra) has been perfectly fine. Longest I left it for was a week when I went on vacation (twice) and there was no issues when I returned either time.
Always great info. You are an asset to the community!!
If only there was a massive battery in the car that could be used to recharge the 12V battery when the voltage gets low.
The only problem with that side is that it will have to have some kind of protection against over-draining the big battery.
I have a small-brand cheap EV, and it does top the 12V off from the HV. As a small/efficient vehicle, its HV is only 20 kWh. And it has a surprising amount of vampire drain. So it will drop 5-10% a week just sitting. Park it at low SoC, and forget to plug it in for a week? You may have just killed the HV battery. (Yes, I did that early in COVID. Forgot to plug it in, came back to it after a week, it was dead as a doornail. Even jumpboxing the 12V circuit wouldn't bring it back to life, it was throwing HV errors and refused to charge. It had to go back to the manufacturer to get fixed. (Thankfully under warranty.)
Now if I'm going to park it for more than a week, I use the 12V disconnect function.
My Hyundai Kona EV made that ! :)
@@AnonymousFreakYT Its just to do as Tesla does, check if high voltate battery has a high enough state of charge.
Many legacy manufactures are used to an alternator to charge a 12V battery , and designed their EV to only charge the 12V (via inverter) only when on. The second problem is that they fit a smaller 12V battery since it does not need to start an ICE engine with cranking, and there is the new features being added to all cars that drain the battery when parked.
Most of the new EV companies (Tesla etc) realised that the 12V battery needs charging at intervals all the time - hence we see the "vampire drain", and for Tesla this is about 1 mile/day in temperate temperatures, but rises above 30degC, and below 5degC when sentry is off.
Rivian has too much vampire drain as they don't turn enough equipment when off - but the 12V does not die.
At the other end we see the old leaf has no vampire drain and does not flattern its 12V battery as has littler technology that needs to be keep awake on park.
Just remember folks, all ICE cars will have a similar problem as more "features" are added - as the drain for all cars from the 12V battery is no different between ICE and EV for the same number of keep-awake features.
Finally - if you run apps that communicate with ANY car ICE or EV, then you will keep that car awake.
It's funny that this is the exact same problem my mother has with her Smart Car purchased over 10 years ago; glad to see car companies are learning from mistakes of the past . . . [I hope the sarcasm is obvious].
Thanks for sharing your experience and advocating for a resolution!😊
"the pricing is a bit too high". UNDERSTATEMENT
You can buy a Model Y which is SO MUCH BETTER. For way way way less money.
love the time you spend educations us, love out of spec Dave
And here I thought upgrading from my 13 year old Prius would mean I wouldn't necessarily need to keep a jumpstarter in my car for a long time... Glad to know this from Out of Spec and not finding out the hard way. Thanks!
Not really. This vlogger just doesn't recognise what a bad 12V looks like. They don't hold charge.
@@Urbanbeneluxwould him recognizing this make the car work? Or would he still have had this issue? Getting a bad battery from the factory in a $50k car should not be a “vlogger didn’t know” situation.
Goes to show, just because you make hybrids doesnt mean you can make EVs. This effort from Toyota is embarrassing.
the word "effort" is doing a lot of work there
And deservedly so. From Those Wonderful Folks Who Brought Us Pearl Harbor.
@@jceess I know. I almost put it in quotes. Lol
They're doing this car not because they want to do an EV car
As a long time Lexus household, I am embarrassed by Toyota making this product.
Dead 12v batteries is also a common problem on Focus Electrics. Back when I considered buying one, it was pretty sad and funny how all their service histories consisted of around 2 or 3 tow truck rides to the dealer before being sold.
Carfax is so fun to read.
Yep, the OBD2 dongle should have very low power draw (a few milliamps at most I reckon). But it is possible that the dongle was keeping some other systems in the vehicle awake that normally are not. Not probable, but possible.
Not really. This vlogger just doesn't recognise what a dead 12V battery looks like.
@@Urbanbenelux The “vlogger” has seen many dead 12v batteries.
@@Urbanbenelux WTF that doesn't make sense. The 12v battery is right there infront of Conner.
As the former owner of a Model S, 12v battery failure was a constant issue.
Yes. Because it's a different chemistry. Modern Tesla's all have small LFP batteries of 16Volt. Since that time no issues are there.
I always have my trusty jump starters in my vehicles at all times. I have used them a few times for myself but often times when I see someone struggling at a store, or on and off ferries here in WA. I can quickly attach and press the button and they're off. I use a 3000mah matco tools jumper. I spent the last few weeks in a Soltera as my Ascent was repaired and no real issues (range could be better and at 6'4 the roof is a bit short for me) but had my jumper still. I am going to ask my significant other who works for Subaru and see if they have a fix. I actually am considering trading my Ascent and getting a Soltera so now I'm wanting more info
My 2020 RAV4 hybrid did this to me regularly. To the point where I always carried a jump pack with me, which saved me from being stranded several times.
How about Toyota just fixing the issue ?
Very interesting because, we own our 4th Prius. At times we will come out to the Prius and the main power battery will be down to one bar out of 5 bars. It has always started but this sounds similar to your issue? Hope you have very little pain! Love the videos.
Veepeak dongles always stay on, which not only keeps many modules awake, but a live diagnostic port might prevent the auto-recharge of the 12V battery in some car brands - to avoid risk of electric shock from the HV system to the service personnel working on vehicle. A long hybrid experience...
In IONIQ 5 loads of owners have had same issue, related to Bluelink, I believe. However my understanding is that ~ no one has a problem as long as they keep the car from sitting for extended periods of time under 30% SoC. I’ve never once had the issue.
I"ve been driving a Hyundai Kona for 2.5 years and my Ioniq 5 now for about 1.5 years. Both cars always had an OBD2 reader plugged in 24/7/365 and I never had the 12V battery die. Both cars were/are also signed up on the recurrent website which queries the cars (typically) once a day for battery state. Again, never any issues on both of my cars.
Mine died several times before swapping it out to a better factory 12v.
Even leaving the doors open for a minute would drain it in the end.
Not really. This vlogger just doesn't recognise what a bad 12V looks like. They don't hold charge. It's a press car, some journalist who had the car before probably killed the 12V battery somehow.
@@Urbanbenelux correct, however in an earlier video he said the car has very little miles on it.
Think I will just keep my Model 3LR/FSD.
I have a 2022 Hyundai Ioniq EV(one of the last cars produced) and I can confirm that they fixed this 12V battery issue. The DC DC inverter is coming on by itself and charges the 12V. I have the car from August 2022 and no dead battery until now. I had the car sitting for a few days and had no problems.
Thanks. OBD2 plugin has a record of draining the 12v in some UK EVs but usually over 24hours+.
I hope you feel better!!!
I had the same on my VW 2023 ID.4 Pro-awd with the obd2 adapter plugged in, I recall when the battery registed as being low it came up with a choice to have the high voltage battery maintain a charge level. I clicked yes, but it was too long ago to precisely recall what it said, but it seemed to make sense at the time.
I wonder if keeping the adapter plugged in but not turning off the app keeps some monitors running and as such draining the 12V battery.......not sure but turning the app off after use and haven't seen the issue again but admit I do remove the adapter more frequently now.
Thank you for a great explanation.
Toyota had the same issue on the latest Sienna (2021) during the early release, "VAMPIRE ISSUE" . They were able to correct the problem the following year.
It’s an issue on the BYD Atto 3 too. They released a software update fix, which has helped, but people are still experiencing it.
These 12v issues on EVs remind me of how RC cars used to be before they devised how to power everything off the 'big' battery. The BEC (battery eliminator circuit) would negate the need to lug another cluster of AA's in your car like back in the 80's (or a Nitro vehicle), when you already have a 6 or 7 cell NiCad or NiMH. Now everything runs off one big battery pack through the ESC. Why haven't the big car manufacturers figured this out yet?
The safety concerns of a large 400V battery are much more severe. There are contactors which need continuous active power to keep the HV battery connected. In a collision or other damage, the HV battery needs to be disconnected but the rest of the computer and systems should stay on. Also the computer needs to boot up and test the circuits for faults before connecting the HV battery.
Longer term the solution (already starting to be adopted by a few automakers, Porsche Taycan, and all Tesla models now) is a lithium ion low voltage battery which has much better longevity and charging characteristics suitable for an EV.
that 12v jump starter is handy regardless of car you drive 👍
( compact , rechargeable tire inflator as well 😊)
And EVs need much smaller jump boxes than my old diesel pickup that had two large high-amp 12V batteries. 😁
noco 10 amp is good too
Not all, if you connect that one to a Tesla secondary battery which is an LFP 16Volt battery it would not work.
I had a similar issue with my e-Golf as I left the OBD dongle plugged in. It kept many control-devices powered on and didn’t let them go to sleep. After unplugging it, it had no problem at all. So really possible it’s the OBD dongle, not by itself but by the effects it has on the car.
Just because the OBD reader uses a low amount of energy, it could be keeping other modules alive, draining the battery. The DCDCs should still kick in though.
My 2022 Kia NIro EV had this issue and it drained the battery so many times I ended up having to replace the 12v because it got to a point where it could no longer hold a charge.
My Kia Niro EV 2019, after three years ownership, its 12v battery just died overnight... Had to recharge it to full and hopefully it will maintain decent charge for foreseeable future. (Took it to my dealer and they tested it and said battery was good, go figure).
I wonder if this is a common problem with more modern cars that pretty much run on software, not just EVs. I recently had a rental car that was an Infinity QX60 that was completely bricked one morning. Couldn't even open the doors without the manual key. The E-Brake always comes on when the car was placed in park and I could not release it. Tow truck driver had to just drag it onto the flat bed
Have you done an update on the Bz4X since the latest software update? Seeing other reviews say that many of the earlier issues have been addressed.
This was happening to me with my RAV4 plug-in when it went back to the dealer for investigation they said the rear window was down ever so slightly triggering the immobiliser, thus draining the 12v battery I’ve had no problems ever since.
Oh heck, my old 2012 Leaf drains the 12-volt if I leave the charge cable attached for any period. Found that out the hard way. I'm sure Toyota will get it sorted.
Kyle, I have been hearing the Kia EV6 is also been having a 12V problem. I hope Kia gets their’s fixed soon because
I have one on order. Question: did you ever do a full review of the 2023 Kia Sportage PHEV (that you “promised” a year ago)? I haven’t been able to find it. The Prestige version is on my wish list for our travel car. It will replace a 2015 Lexus RX350.
Early etrons drained the 12V battery for several situations like leaving the L2 plug in for too long after charging ended.
The same thing happen to my ICE rav4 , it’s their telematics / always connected services. It’s always hunting for connections and created a battery drain. Looks like them starting to create the subscription service model is impacting their reliability cred.
Dude, do you ever slow down? You have a cold and have just come out of surgery. The energy is pretty impressive.
Very annoying how he is walking around, pls stand still while talking, -energy or not !
I understand that the IONIQ 5 was due to persistent polling of the vehicle remotely while parked. The use of the 12VDC battery to support this communication was over the top and Hyundai restricted that. I have found my 12VDC charging while the vehicle had been idle for some time so my guess is the latest update to the 2023 vehicle (a month ago) has tightened up that behind the scenes charging. Those early days rush to market issues I’m so thankful to have missed. I understand the need to get the IONIQ 5 in S Korea before the Tesla’s were unloaded at the port but here is the residual historical blemish that is no longer affecting any updated units. 💯
Andrew Till (see TH-cam channel) had one of the limited edition launch Ionic5 models and covered his 12v drain saga. Eventually had a BMS update in 2022 which introduced a better 12v monitoring capability to overcome 12v battery drain. Causes he found were that sitting in the car would draw power, Utility mode would draw power, “Welcome mode” (Where car unlocks when walking by with keys on person) would draw power.
One time the battery was drained in our RX450h, I think it was because that the cover of the mirror on the sun visor was not closed.
Dang. I just got a powerful local pain killer injection when I got my wisdom teeth removed. A lot of crunching sounds, micro buzz saw sounds.
Different folks have different tolerances for anesthetics as well as procedures. thankfully I had general anesthesia when I had what was left of my teeth removed, 2 implants and full dentures. I would not have made it had it just been a local.
Got put to sleep when I got my 4 removed. Thank you Tylenol 3😊.
@@The_DuMont_Network yeah. Thankfully i didn’t feel much. When I got the prescription for the painkillers afterwards I was thinking that maybe it wasn’t so bad until the injections wore off. Holy crap. Never have I swallowed pills that fast. Also got some to inhibit coughing or something so I didn’t destroy the stitches.
Anyway the pills worked great for me. Can’t remember when I last gave gone to bed without pain somewhere. But I couldn’t feel a thing. 😂
Sounds a lot like the ioniq 5 issue a lot of people are having. I have an ioniq 5 but haven’t experienced it yet
Side note, foolproof way of getting rid of hiccups every time is fill a tall glass of water, take a deep breath and then chug the whole glass while you hold your breath. Make sure you don’t breathe out of your nose while you do it. It will work every time
Yeah I've heard of ioniq 5s and EV6s having this issue, but my EV6 hasn't done it yet
Didn’t they find that the issue was the bluelink app and the iccu
I own a 4WD XLE since May last year, recently hit 7k miles. Never had that issue happened to me
I have a suspicion that you might've hit the power button when you thought it was 'off' doing this, puts the car in 'accesory' mode, and just like any other car, ran the battery dead
did they fix it?
Had mine 3 weeks and my 12v died! Had to have it replaced… I blamed it on sitting at port for 8 months!
Yeah this vlogger doesn't recognise the difference between a bad charging algorithm and a bad 12V battery. The car's not to blame.
Did the wheels fall off too? They were last year.
I got a Gooloo 2000A after watching Project Farm testing. Half the price of this Egwo. Works great as a power bank for camping.
I find it interesting that the bz4x and Id3 both seemed to have the same phantom battery drain, I wonder if it’s the same part share ?
low capacity battery would be my #1 suspect, #2 lead acid batteries will self drain without any assistance on their own.
I would have gone for a performance grade deep cycle lithium 12v battery instead, its lots of money sure but it won't drop dead randomly from small parasitic drainage.
and to top it off it disabled charging after like 4 full fast charges in a row??
Could by any chance a buyer from MENA region have an update of the car to run car play on it as well having the screen all English?
Had this problem with Kona at just over two years. Put a new different 12V batt in, has not happened again. Tip, carry the 12V backup lithium as suggested, but don't buy cheep. £70 minimum cost for a quality one.
Happened to me last week in my Ariya although by time the tow truck came (luckily I was already at home) the next morning it was good to go and corrected itself I guess. Haven't had any problems so far although I do long drives and going to Idaho in a few weeks for work so I need to know how to access my 12v. I heard all we have to do is unplug for 5 min and plug it back in. It's in the trunk supposedly but have no idea where. If anyone has an Ariya and knows and has some insight please let me know.
The Ariya has a battery under the hood, like any other car. However, if you have pro-pilot 2.0, there’s a separate and difficult to access 12v battery behind the rear seats to power the automation computer.
Hi I have the same obd 2 diagnostic dongle in my 2015 VW e Golf with the original AGM battery and I have never had a problem and I never lost a wheel 😂 at least the BZ4X is reliable oups! I just forgot the recall and the dead battery.
Well...we have the same issue with our Toyota Highlander Hybrid, so not holding up hope that Toyota will address it anytime soon. And discovered that people are afraid to help jump the car, so we keep a portable jumper in the car. It's been an issue for close to 15 years. We had the problem in our 2009 Highlander Hybrid and in the newer 2022 Highlander Hybrid. The first time it happened I "jumped" it with an old computer PSU. It just needed enough power to initialize the computer to engage the high voltage to 12v converter.
I had same issue with my BZ4x, why is it not charging if you drive it? Is one day of parking going to drain the battery? I parked the car for 3 days, I tried to start the car and a lot weird things like flickering and light flashing, when you push brake, it was kicking your feet back randomly. I got malfunction error after 10 minutes driving outside the dealership on the same day I bought it.
I wonder if a previous reviewer let the 12V battery go totally dead somehow , thus killing the 12V battery. Once that happens, they will charge up again but barely have any capacity.
Yeah unfortunately, vloggers these days think they are smarter than auto companies with 6 digit numbers of employees.
When are you going to test the Iconiq 5 on the 10% challenge?
Apparently "it's probably the 12v" is a universal EV problem. It was a notorious issue with the BMW i3 community after 3-5 years of ownership or a harsh winter.
Correct, since Teslal just put a good LFP battery in it that also has so many cycles it will last the same life as the car. Which solved the issue. Tesla solved it..
I have never experienced this with my 2012 Nissan LEAF. I swapped the 12v battery at 9 years as it failed the test when being serviced.
My ICE Subaru drains quickly too, although not overnight (a few weeks, and not to 0, but enough to need a jump)
I have the Solterra with no battery drain problems after 6 months of ownership but my Forrester e boxer self charging hybrid was a nightmare. After not using the car for as little as 1 week the 12 volt battery would be flat. Never got to the bottom of the problem.
You know what, my new tesla model 3 did this to me on week 1 also. Now the car is at service center
Picking up the Lexus Monday or Tuesday 😬
The BMW i3 got the 12V top up feature only later in life by software update.
Model X Plaid 2022. Went on a long vacation. Left car at hotel and with sentry mode enabled the car 16v battery died. Then when I jump started it, I stayed in the car for an hour to allow it to charge. Came back the next day. Died again... I did not have access to a wall charger to keep things flowing but the SoC was 60%.
I wonder why they didn’t throw the solar roof option that is on the prime on this? Wouldn’t it have made more sense ?
Kyle, I live in the UK. My Mum had a Yaris hybrid and this happened to her car no less than three times. She has now got rid of her Yaris hybrid and gone back to petrol engined car.
One hour for TH-cam left to process. Already late in the day so wanted to get this up! What do you guys think? Carry as 12 volt jump box with you or hope it doesn’t happen too often?
Hope it doesn't happen too often! Come on, Toyota! You used to lead the industry in eco-friendly cars!
There are some interesting and reasonably priced battery backup options for EVs in various situations. I would like to see some reviews on ones that can provide power or a few miles of range in a pinch. We also know that towing can add some juice. Any products that can rotate the wheels could be useful.
Why does it take more than hour to process
@@crtmojo2705 We in America are supposed to be embracing our conservative past. I guess it's time to start parking our cars on hills so startup can be assured, just like we did pre-sixties.
@@douglas_drew I still drive a manual. Popping the clutch when it’s dead is a life saver!
We had to learn carburetors and then fuel injected; now we gotta learn about energy density and software and hardware.
Geez. From all the negative reviews and the fact that Toyota has been clearly anti - ev, is there any chance they made a bad ev on purpose? I know people exaggerate issues for clicks but this seems like a class action lawsuit waiting to happen based on all the negative media coverage.
Nah. To conspire requires neuroactivity.
I have read that this is built FOR Toyota by BYD? Do you know?
I have a 2018 Kia Niro hybrid and it doesn't have a 12v battery, instead a section of the 48v battery for the hybrid drive train is sectioned off for the 12v system and in the event that it is depleted there is a 12v reset button that will use the main battery to recharge it. Why don't all the EV makers do this?
does the lexus 450e have this problem?
I own a Mini SE and over the last couple weeks I have been seeing a lot of dead battery posts in our forums. Not sure why but a bunch of owners are having batteries replaced within the first year of ownership...
I haven’t had a dead car in the morning but I have killed the 12v charging my phone w the heated seat on with the car not in READY
Rushed and half-baked platform.
Also, 360p Kyle? 🤔
VW replaced/ing a lot of 12v batteries in the 1st Ed’s when updating from ID 2.x to 3.0/3.1. Same sort of problem?? Assuming that it is, or why would VW judge the 12v batteries NEEDED replacement with in all of the 2021s being updated for s/w.
This is probably just a battery that was run too low but some previous journalist. And a vogger who has no clue of what he's talking about.
Kyle, are you and Alyssa back together or is this an old video?
He said it's the holiday in the video.
@@courtneyvegan9448 Except he talked about his dental issues on Friday in the podcast so I think that video is recent.
@@treads2595 I know, I meant its recent because it's a holiday in USA. And he mentioned it.
@@courtneyvegan9448 Oh okay. You know, I was hesitant to ask because while Kyle has made himself a public figure, his personal relationships are still his business. However, Alyssa has been such a huge part of the channel that I was curious since it seems like the new girlfriend has disappeared and Alyssa was taking him to the dentist. I was just looking for some update as to what was going on. He also has never explained the Jordan thing, but that’s kind of self-explanatory.
@@treads2595 He did mention that he is going with the Porsche lady in one of the videos she was in. Then she was gone. It happens. Don't know about the Jordan thing.
Funny, I watched this video last night. Today I went out to try to start my Prius Prime and suffered the same problem; I had not been doing anything which should have drained the battery and the car is only three months old.
I had same issue with my old Prius where a new 12v battery was replaced by Toyota dealer two months back. I jump started and took it to same dealer and he checked it and kept the car overnight and replaced it with a new battery. I just got the car back today. So far so good but I will find out soon if that fixes the issue.
I drive a Nissan Leaf which I replaced the 12v lead acid battery with a battle born lithium 12v battery never had this problem since then. They are trying to save a few dollars to keep using that old lead acid technology. The new Tesla's now have a very small lithium battery but they must have software to charge the 12v even if the car is "off".
autowit SuperCap 12v starter is better or at least a great alternative
15-20% SoC on HV battery seems like too low for these 'legacy auto maker'
On ioniq 5, it stop supplying 12V when HV battery at 18% on park, idk with newer software, but that's what happened last year
I owned (briefly) a 2022 Kona EV that had 12v Battery issues, this is not new with EV's and should not really be a problem anymore, good lord do these manufacturers, you know, plan? Thanks for the videos!
Do you charge the booster only to 80% 😉.
Alot of BYD Atto 3 have premature dead 12v batteries as well
FWIW, the ONLY time I ever had this happen to my 3 year old XW50 Prius was when I left my Veepeak scanner plugged into the OBD II port with the car parked for 28 hours…🤷♂️
Yep. I can reliably kill my Prius Prime 12v every time with this OBD2 dongle.
Battery Zero 4 eXtended downtime
BZ4X where I come from costs around 42500 USD and am still buying one.
So what's the draw from?
12:52 I want the car to tell me what it is doing. Consumers should have knowledge of how their machine works and what it is doing, if they want to know.
I keep that exact same OBD sensor in my ID4 all day every day and it has never drained the 12v
Whatever made you think that Toyota engineers know anything about engineering? I have driven a few and they have the worst engineering of controls I have ever seen. My son had a late model Toyota that would let the battery die if the lights were left on, ie. door open or headlights. I have a old 2002 Jeep Liberty that will shut down any lights if left on for more that 8 minutes without the ignition being on. If the headlights were on in the Toyota and you shut it down and didn't open the drivers door it would also leave them on until the battery died.
So, I’m shopping for a new EV in the $35-$55K range.
Can’t decided between a BZ4X, MX-30 or VF8.
Which will be best for my enemy?
mY
Id4 or model y
Model Y/Model3/Mach E/Ioniq if you are buying it for your daily use. BZ4X if you are buying it for your Enemy😅
Many EV has that issue, the Ioniq 5 is known for having problem with its 12v battery
I currently own the 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 limited. I’ve had it since November 4. Knock on wood so far so good. I originally reserved the Solterra in February 2022. Had to cancel due to the recall on a potential wheels falling off issue. This would’ve been my 6th Subaru. I’m still a Subaru fan. Subaru and Toyota started late on the EV bandwagon. Both vehicles have a ton of great features, but lacks range and rapid charging time. Till they get their act together, I might reconsider in the future. This has been a total embarrassment. I travel from Baltimore to New York often and these 2 vehicles would’ve been a disaster. Low range and long rapid charging time. I’ve taken the Hyundai Ioniq 5 to to New York and back to Baltimore with no problems. The 12 volt issue I haven’t experienced since it happened on the 2022 model year. I think Hyundai may have fixed the problem on the 2023 models.
Rivian does this engaging hv pack. Consumes 1kw per day.
I’ve had my Solterra since the end of last year. Since I travel away from home often, it sometimes sits for 2 weeks without use. I’ve not had any issues with this issue or the car at all. Love the Solterra!
Hi Scott, I live in the UK and I have been driving my Solterra for just over 6 months. During the winter the car sat for 3 weeks at temperatures well below zero and there was no problem with the 12 volt battery and up until now everything's been fine. Subaru do say in the manual if you are doing things with the car such as cleaning the inside etc., you should leave it power on. Listening to the radio for approximately 15 mins I have had a warning telling me that the 12 volt battery could go flat and to power up the vehicle. I bought a12 volt battery monitor that plugs into the 12 v socket which shows the state of charge while the car is powered which is usually 14.5 volts. As soon as I switch the car off the monitor starts to drop to around 12.5 volts. I have had many Subarus over the years and like yourself I really love the car. Happy motoring.
It was a problem with my 2012 Chevy Volt as well.
Yep. My former Hyundai Ioniq 5 died all the time. 12 volt.