For filmmaking (meaning, narratives) with a non-crop R camera, you need these: 1. 24-70 f/2.8 IS (main lens) 2. 70-200 f/2.8 IS 3. A fast 35 or 50 prime for low light and "normal" shots 4. An ultra-wide at around 17mm. That's all. This covers anything you'd ever need for your short films or features.
The 24-105 L f4 kit lens is surprisingly stunning. I hate to say it but it is the lens I tend to use all the time. I dont use the 35mm because I have the 15-35 2.8 R, simply amazing. Then for telephoto, I use the EF L 100-400. With the R adapter, sometimes with the 1.4x TC.
I'm getting an R6 Mk II in a couple of weeks along with the kit RF 24-105 f4. I've also snagged a good price on pristine 2nd hand RF 24 f1.8 & RF85 f2, along with the tiny 16 f2.8 & 50 f1.8. To complement this I'm looking at getting the EF 100-400 mark II (great lens at bargain 2nd hand prices), and just for the fun of it the RF 800 f11 & a 2x extender to get silly shoots at 1600 f22 😜
Hey Tony, great video. I picked up an EOS R very recently and for the first time ever I picked it up with the 24-105 and I am absolutely blown away by it. It is SO SHARP, and focuses so well, i'm having so much fun with it. Also, the IS is unbelievable, even today I got a 105mm shot at 0,4'' and it was SHARP. I have always carried arround my 16-35 as my main for everything but I'm in love with the 24-105 at the moment. Can't wait to pick some other RF lenses in the future, i'm personally waiting for a 70-200 f4
I got eos-R with 24-105 f4 as well and love it. What do you think about 15-35 and could that replace 35mm prime in your set? I have original 16-25 f2.8 and like the focal range, but mot sure yet about the upgrade, because the photo is just pricey hobby for me :)
@@TonyMellinger I was thinking of getting the 85mm 1.4 for my Canon R, any reasons as to why I shouldn't? I can't quite afford the RF 85 1.2 and do not think the 85mm F2 is a good compromise.
Really need help with this My Ef 24-70 lens is broken. The repair is around 600€ I mostly use the canon R5 with the adapter and this lens and sometimes my RF 35mm I've been researching and I'd like to know what you think is the best option: Buy canon RF 85mm F2 and the new RF 16mm (since I already have the RF 35mm) or Just buy the RF 24-105 f4 lens (everybody seems to love this lens) The difference between the two options is just 100€ I can't decide between this 2 options. What would you do? Also which lenses do you think have the best quality and durability? Thank you ❤️
I sold my RF 24-105, lacks nice enough bokeh, slow AF, not a fan of the zoom range and sharpness isn't what I expected from an L series lens, picked up the RF 15-35, 28-70 and 70-200.
wow, that's interesting, I haven't had any trouble wish sharpness. Interesting how we all need different lenses. I found the 15-35 underwhelming. and obviously a huge fan of the 70-200. ha!
@@frostybe3r Sometimes you need to micro adjust the lens. My EF 25-105 needed like +15 to be as sharp as it could. The EF 24-105 II was better but not perfect either.
@@frostybe3r Oh. I had no idea. I'm coming from 5D mkII/III/IV. Only now (whenever the R5 releases) dipping my toes into mirrorless. Thanks for the info :)
LOL! That biker! I absolutely love the 24-105. The more I use it, the more I love it, and the more indispensable it becomes. The quality and range almost makes other ranges obsolete if you know how to use them and aren't in need of specific specs. I can carry my 35mm, and the 24-105 in my smaller camera bag for trips and whatnot. Great recommendation of lenses brother; and thank you for all of your help throughout the year.
My first 2 RF lenses are the 28-70 f2 , and the 85 1.2 DS :) got both on really good sales in anticipation of the R5 months ago :) I am planning to sell a few EF lenses before making any more purchases, I may try to keep using EF until the 14-28 f2, and I am curious to see how people rate the 70-135 f2 compared to the 70-200 and decide down the road :)
Tony Mellinger I highly recommend it! I tested it on an R at night in the city and was actually amazed how well it performed! It consistently nailed the focus, even on a moving Tram, at 1.2, and it’s incredibly sharp even wide open! It definitely outperformed what I could achieve with the 85 1.2 EF on a 5D4 :) really love how the bokeh looks up close at 100% as well... the IBIS should help push it that little bit further in situations where the subject isn’t moving :)
@@Manihsi the 28-70 actually gets the full 8 stops with the R5 IBIS (rated to the same level as the 2.8 :))) you come accustomed to the weight quickly, and the boksh / separation is enough to take the lens from a reliable all situation lens, to a really enjoyable lens! I haven’t hit a situation yet where the 28 has been not wide enough yet, although I have used my 11-24 with the EF adapter and been happy with the results!
Depends what you're doing with it. 35 prime or 50 is a good knock around. A 24-70 is a good alaround 70-200 for portraits. 800 f11and 600 f11, 100-400 for sports and wildlife
@@TonyMellinger I haven’t gotten it yet, but I’m still planning to buy one. I’ve watched your video on the 50mm and that’s also a lens I’m considering buying, thanks again for the help!
I dont do portraits, etc and I am not a pro. I have eos r and the rf 24-105 and the ef 100-400ii I use with control ring adapter- it is quite long, but I have been able to use it without a tripod. I am debating myself on rf 70-200 f4, but I guess I should buy the rf 35 macro for less light scenarios.
I'm seriously looking for a new lens for my EOS R but my budget is nowhere near what I really want. I was leaning towards the 35mm you have on this video but I just saw the RF85mm F2 Macro IS STM on Canon's site. What's your thoughts on this lens? As good or better than the 35mm? I'm wanting something for portraits and macro. I have a 24-240 f4 and really like it but I feel like I could do better as far as lenses go. Any advice would be nice :-)
Yea, they just released the new RF 85 with IS. I haven’t used it yet because it comes out in the next few months but I imagine it’s a great lens for the price. 85mm is pretty much my favorite focal length for portraits so if that’s what you’ll use it for, absolutely get the 85 over the 35 glad you’re enjoying the 24-240. Figure out where you spend most of your time and think about getting a lens at that focal length!
Canon Lenses too heavy ...thats not mirrorless looks like should be! go sony mirrorless buy light lenses expensive and heavy lenses not automatically good lenses look Tamron cheap and small.....and ...... better than sony lenses
EF lenses are still viable. Example, the EF/RF versions of the 70-200 2.8L are almost identical in optical tests and the EF version will never be a dust sucker as all functions are internal. I may buy a RF 35 but if I had the money, I'd buy the EF 35 1.4L II in a heartbeat.
I don’t have any more ef lenses. You’re right, you can pick them up for less now, but the simplicity of not messing with an adapter and sharpness of the RF glass won me over. There’s also some really interesting RF lenses now like the 10-20mm and 24-105 f2.8. We’ll see what they come up with next!
Thank you for this video. I didn't know that filter step up ring existed! I was about to sell my filters. I'm still hesitating if I get the 24mm or the 35mm. I do a lot of landscaping and a bit of astro, I guess the 24mm would be more versatile, wouldn't it?
If you do quite a bit of Astro/landscape, you’d probably be more happy with the 24. If you want a little more versatile and want good photos of people with less distortion, I’d go for the 35 which is still very capable.
Just bought the EOS R with 24-105mm F/4 L kit from the recent refurb sale. Very excited as I have been waiting to pull the trigger for over half a year :-). I am upgrading from a T3i kit that came with the 18-55 and 55-250mm lenses. I loved the T3i and basically learned photography on it with great results! Those two lenses pretty much covered 90% plus of what I like to shoot. But now I am trying to figure out the most affordable way to get that 300-400 mm reach on my EOS R. I am leaning toward the EF adapter with a EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 is Ii Usm lens as it seems very affordable with good results. But, if there was a 400mm lens that was also affordable, I might go for that. Anyone have any suggestions? I keep thinking they will come out with a RF 70-300, but no word yet.
Awesome!!! Thanks so much for watching. I had the eos r and now have the R5 and R6 now 🤣 they’re so good! Thanks for the sub!! I’ll check out your channel!
I have also those same three RF-lenses. The 24-105/4 zoom lens is my favourite, specially for travelling. I spent during 2019 all together four weeks in Russia shooting most of my pics with EOS R and 24-105. But my best shots I took with my old but reliable EF 16-35/2.8 II.The weight of my camera bag was only 4,3 kg. The RF 70-200/2.8 is my favourite for sports and portrait photography. That lens is so good by size, guality and sharpness. I hope Canon would produce smaller size lenses. Kind of B-versions. I hate, as an amatour photographer, those bulky RF f/2.0 lenses. For example I love my EF 50/1.2 lens. I never will buy the RF version of that. Should I replase my EF 100/2.8 macro and EF 16-35/2.8 with a RF versions right now? An expensive question.
I am actually going with this lineup but adding the 85 f2 as well. The 35 mm should work well and being able to make it a 50mm with the 1.6 crop is a win-win.
Right! I haven’t used the crop mode really yet, something I’d like to play around with more! I’m looking forward to the 85 f2 as well, the 85 f1.4L IS is one of my favorites!
Can I ask what you mean with the 1.6 crop (I thought that was something that belonged to the old crop sensor camera days when I had my 60d)? Thanks a lot!
Susanne Geert yes that’s the crop. The efs lenses are made for a crop sensor so if you stick it on a full frame camera the outer 1/3 of the frame would just be a black circle. The RF-EF adaptor accepts efs lenses and automatically adds the crop so you get the best image you can. I’m so glad they added the ability to use efs lenses though. Something you couldn’t ever do with full frame dslrs
Good job, Tony, although I’m a fan of the 50 1.2L and 85 1.2L. Love the 24-105L as you do and 35 1.8 macro. RF is the way to go. I’m keeping my EOS R and RP for now. Love them both and would like to get to know them better before jumping to the R6
That’s a great idea. I for some reason just have never spend much time at 50mm, but 85mm f1.4L is one of my favorites! That’s a good call to keep using your gear to the max!
2022. The RF24105L costs 50% more than in 2020. You have a two-month wait to get one, and it's almost impossible to get second-hand. With the release of the R6 and its noise management, this lens has become the lens of choice for more and more social and wedding photographers. It is the only RF lens that has increased in price, month over month since 2020. It is in high demand.
Pretty crazy huh… mine has been used hard and put away wet. I wonder if I could get the front element buffed or replaced, I should send it in instead of trying to replace it ha!
@@TonyMellinger I just have bought my own 24-104 L to pair it with my new brand R6 (bought with real kit 24-105 f4-7.1). Here, in Poland - this is only one lens of L-line excluded from cashback... magic....
Rafael Ludwig it’s a good one too! I just love being able to punch into 105 and using the f4 aperture creatively. No one can say there’s a shortage of good lenses these days!!
Too expensive. I have the R5, the 24-105, 70-200, F/4 and the 100-500 all RF. I held back and kept a few Nikon F mount lenses with two Nikon DSLR bodies. I have yet to purchase a wide angle lens. debating on a used F mount for my nikon or a RF mount for the R5. I came from a Nikon system and had no prior Canon equipment. My lenses all need to be weather sealed. Fast focus is super with the R5 and birding is a treat with the 100-500. However for a serious hobbyist and now retired, looking back, my Nikon systems would have continued to do me well.
That’s a nice kit. Love the 24-105 and 70-200 f4. That’s perfect for almost everyone. The 100-500 is glorious, one of my favorite lenses, but I typically rent it when I need it
@@TonyMellinger I went to the local camera store and they have a used/new condition 15-35mm for 1599.00 I have it loan to me and I am checking it out. I am not sure if I need that wide of a lens. the 24-105 is just a good can do everything lens on the R5.
Glad to hear your endorsement of the 24-105, I preordered the R5 kit and was wavering between spending the extra $1500 on the 24-70 or not for the 2.8 (I might get one later along with the 70-200)
I love flash photography. The 24-105 is especially great when paired with flash. The one I take when traveling. Swiss Army Knife. The quality is not the same as the great primes but who has time to switch lenses.
As an amateur shooting for approximately 6 months, I initially jumped in with both feet into the RF system. Learning how to shoot on the Eos R and RF 50 1.2 was really great.. IQ and bokeh is truly spectacular. My second lens arrived last week the RF 28-70 F2 - looking forward to testing that out in the coming days. No regrets with choosing Canon and RF glass.
When I can justify the purchase of an R5, the 28-70 f2 will be the first lens I get. Now I don't have a 24-70 f2.8, so the 28-70 is a natural purchase for me, but it is also something you can't get for any other brand of camera and it has a very useful zoom range.
I know a lot of people really love it, but every time I’ve used it, i never thought it was really spectacular. I think part of it for me was the focal length, the other part was the price. It’s a really good lens, I just never really felt it connected with me...
I cant make up my mind with the 28-70 F2 or the 24- 70 F2.8 IS I know 1 with the R has IS but if I get the R5 then IS don't matter as much and then 100 -500 lol
@@mat1ashaukka yeah that’s one of my main setups tbh. You can have so many other lenses, but goodness, that RF24-105 f4 is amazingly versatile. I am a huge fan of the M50, i think it’s the closest thing to a crop sensor R series camera there is. Enjoy!
Yea I’ve heard great things about the 15-35, I just haven’t been able to get on board. I don’t do a ton of super wide shots so the 24 helps me with the wide, I can imagine it’s great for ultra wide.
I have: 28mm 2.8 50mm 1.4 70-200mm 2.8 II 10-18mm 4.5-5.6\ (and a couple of other starter kit lenses not worth mentioning). I'm looking for my next lens. I take Portraits, Macro, and pictures of my family mostly. With this lineup, which one would you choose next?
I now have 4 lenses on my RP; - 24-105 f4 - 70-200 f4 - 35 f1.8 - 85 f2 This suits my needs perfectly. Vacation/sightseeing; 24-105. Nice walk in nature/outside photo's of my toddler son; 70-200. Low light or #GIVEMEBOKEH? Get out the primes. If i need to discard 1, to keep in line with the video... I'd toss the 85.
The f4 is not for me... Nothing that I can't use in max conditions beyond the f2.8 is... If I would be a videographer, for sure I would use the 24-105 f4 but I am mostly a photographer and I love fast primes, in fact, the only lens that goes passed the f1.8 is the 70-200 f2.8...
When I got the R5 I got the RF 50mm f/1.8 as a freebie from the place I bought the R5. The next purchase was the RF 24-105 f/4L. And I still have the EF70-300mm L. I traded in the EF24-70mmf/2.8L first series which was a beautiful lens but was big and heavy and I often left it at home. I was considering the EF24-70mmf/4 which is a cute lens but held off. Canon don’t make a RF24-70mmf/4L so I got the 105mm.
There adapter is not that big and several RF lenses are big and bulky. Put the 28-70 f/2 on and you will see what i mean. It would be a mistake to buy a 70-200 if you never use that focal range, so i think it is a mistake to recommend that as a starting lens. The 35 is a great deal and so is the refurb 24-105 f/4 on sale. I would go really slow on that 70-200 unless i knew for a fact i would be using it a lot. For example, some folks may find they enjoy wildlife, so the 1-500 RF would be way better and it costs the same. If someone sprung for that sweet looking 70-200 f/2.8 RF, they may be cash depleted for what they really want, that 1-500 RF. That person would be hurt by your blanket recommendation. The fact is, it really depends and it depends more as the price goes up!
Sure. I agree with you. And the 100-500 is a really attractive lens. I think once you get a few lenses you start to dial in your style of shooting and start to get a feel of what you’re looking for. That said, I’ve never heard anyone complain about the 70-200. I can’t wait to try out the 100-500 sometime!
@@TonyMellinger yeah I managed to get one used for about $1000 USD I think that and I already have a 50mm EF lens is better than a RF 35mm and EF 50mm only. I hope it’s sharp and good for noobs though 🤣 I think when talking price the RF 35mm, 50mm, 24-105mm are your best value for money lenses it sounds like.
Just got my R6 Mk II a couple of weeks ago, and part of the purchase was an EF >RF adapter so that I could use my beloved 24-105 with the mirrorless. It's as good a pairing of camera and lens as I've ever seen.
Hello and thank you for this video. in your opinion, on a Canon RP, I would have the best image rendering with the RF 35 mm f1.8 or with the EF 35 mm f2 IS USM (taking the same aperture: f2. f4, f5.6, f8. ..) ??? Thank you in advance for your answers. (I only do Photo: Street photo, Portraits, landscapes. Regards, Philgood ...
I think you’ll get pleasing image out of both. The RF is probably sharper. Ditching the adapter is a big deal too. On the RP with the 35mm is a great feeling small setup.
I love the f4 L lenses personally. Not a pro photographer and do not shoot in super low light so its never been an issue. That being said my kit is fairly extensive... the 14 to 35 f4 L, the 25 to 105 f4L and the 70 to 200 f4L make up my core kit. I also have a range of the standard prime lenses because they are also amazing and would do well in low light if I needed it. I have the RF 35mm, 50mm and 85mm primes, and the EF Sigma Art lenses on an adapter in the same sizes. I use these for mostly portrait photography and urban photography. All shooting on an EOS R8. I think my next lense needs to be the 24 to 70 f2.8 L. That thing is a beast that could replace a whole bunch of lenses in my kit.
Hi, I use a Canon 7Dii with sigma art 18-35mm f/1.8 lens which I love the most. I would like to upgrade my camera body to R6 and sell 7DII. But I would like to keep my Sigma Art lens. I would like to know your feedback about using this lens with EOS R adapter for both photography and videography. Thanks
I am not too familiar with Sigma glass, i typically just use Canon. BUT... all of my EF lenses have worked better on the R series cameras than they did even on my DSLRs. As far as the 18-35, that is an EF-S lens so there’s a few differences. EF-S lenses still work on the R6, but the MP count is smaller for photo. For video, it’s a great lens, it just has the APSC crop at 1.6. On the EOS R the 60fps for video didn’t work with EF-S lenses, but that is addressed in the R5 and R6 and 60fps works with EF-S lenses! I think for video, its a big upgrade. For photo, if you can deal with the smaller MP count (basically half) then it’s a great lens.
Really clear and helpful suggestions! I'm interested in moving over to RF cameras but it is good to know my 70-200 EF lens will work just fine with an adapter.
It actually will work better. The focus system(at least in the R5 and R6) feels much snappier, it wont drive the af motor faster, but it feels like it lock focus quicker(maybe less overshoot?) i tried my 85 1.2 and 100 macro on an R5 with adapter in a store.
I’m looking at an R, or R6. Current budget would allow for R6 with 24-105 f4-7.1, or R with 24-105 f4. Should I go for the better body, or better lens. Can’t get both at the moment. I do mainly video, but dabble with photography
I’ve had both the R and the R6 and personally I think the R6 is the better investment and will last you much longer. I would buy the r6 and save up for your lenses then.
The big difference between the two is 1. Fixed aperture (which is a big deal for exposure and bokeh) and 2. Glass quality. I just never was happy with the cheaper 24-105’s image.
@@TonyMellinger in my situation I dont think ill have a choice due to budget constraints. Do you think its a big enough deal to delay getting the system to save for the higher quality
I have the kit lense as well and thinking of grabbing the affordable prime lenses next but I can't decide? What would you recommend? 35 f1.8 & 85mm f2 35 f1.8 & 50mm 1.8 50mm 1.8 & 85mm f2 (would it be too similar?) Or all three or one of these and save for the 70-200
I was thinking of getting the 85mm 1.4 for my Canon R, any reasons as to why I shouldn't? I can't quite afford the RF 85 1.2 and do not think the 85mm F2 is a good compromise.
Love the 85mm f1.4. The only disadvantage is the adaptor. There’s nothing wrong with the ef lenses on the camera and in my perspective they work better than they do on EF mount cameras... but the RF lenses are next level. Hard to explain until you start using them for yourself.
I have the 24-105 f4, 35mm f1,8 and I want to buy the 85mm f2 macro instead the 70-200 f2,8, because 70-200 is too much expansive. This kit is enough for the moment. With 35 and 85 I can cover the 50mm and 135mm for video with crop
Yeah, you make a great point. That 85mm f2.0 came out around or right after I made this video. Super excited to try out that 85 f2, i think it’s going to be incredible!
Just picked up my Refurbished 24-105L from Canon Direct for $728.00 + shipping. So far I'm loving it and hoping that the IQ is as good or better than the Sigma 24-105 Art that I have been using. I used to have the EF 70-200 f/4.0 IS but for the type of traveling we do found the EF 70-300L f/4-5.6 to be more useful.
Can't believe I have only found your channel today. BUT, I think your channel is great - subbed. I got the EOS R in early 2020 and have been playing with it all year (and am still learning). I too love the F4 24-105 lens but am looking to get some more this year.
Wow I already got the 2, 24-105 and 35 rf..really leaning on getting the 85 1.4 RF Samyang (hope you can grab one and review it would be very helpful) then get the 70-200 after I made enough savings..Thanks for the tips a always..Keep em coming 😄👍
segrad1 - I’ll voice the other view. I used to have an EF 24-105L and found it to be my most boring lens. Maybe the new one is sharp enough to bring some wow factor, but I was underwhelmed with the original. From a professional standpoint of “just get the shot”, however, it could be a workhorse, at least until light falls. Just stand where you are, zoom from wide to medium tele, frame, let IS do its thing, autofocus, and click. But to get the most stunning shot, it can be more dramatic to shoot wider, longer, or with a wider aperture. I found my photos with the kit lens to have a documentary, rather than artistic, feel. But again, that was the older EF - as well as my limited abilities, available subjects, and lighting. A lens only contributes so much. Anyway, for artistic shooting, it wouldn’t be my first choice. As a workhorse without an f/2.8 budget, it might be exactly the right tool - especially if the new one is tack sharp.
@@JonFairhurst Thank you for the GREAT insight Brother John. I'm still learning but my focus has been on portraits, action figures (still a kid at heart) and some video. I'm probably not at the point where I would be able to discern the difference between the two lenses at this point in my photography journey. So for my needs, it would probably suffice. Once I make that job to the professional level, I would probably look to upgrade to the 2.8. PEACE from ATL ✊🏾📸🎥
Totally agree with you. The first time I used the original EF 24-105 I decided I would never use it again. They came out with the second version and it was absolutely an improvement but the RF version is by far better than all of the EF versions. Good insight!!
My impression of the Canon ND Filter Adapter is that it's probably made for videographers. I got one for myself and often struggled with it because the dial spins too smoothly without a dial lock to keep the stops I like to work with. So I ended up spinning the dial without knowing and that threw me off quite a bit. I was asking myself why Canon wouldn't put a dial lock then realized that having the dial spin smoothly without a clicking sound is better for the video. So I ended up buying separate ND filters for each RF lens I have. I'm still keeping it in case I need it again.
I traded a bunch of gear today for an R6 and some lenses. I got the 24-105, 70-200 f4, and two Zeiss primes, 25 f1.4 and the 50 f2m. My next lens will be the 600 f11.
when i traded all my 5D4 and 7d2 gear and most of my lenses for the R5, i got the RF 24-105 F4-7.1 and i found it worked really well until i tried HDR and it says lens not compatable WHAT!! Noooo i love doing mild HDR shots and to say i was disapointed was an under statement
I ended up with an R5, 15-35mm 2.8, 50mm 1.2, and 70-200 2.8. This gives me wide zoom, telephoto zoom, and a 50mm prime which I cannot live without. However, I am sort of wondering if I should've went with the 28-70 as everyone says it's comparable or straight up better than the 50 1.2, and can zoom. There was a sale at a local store but it's gone now sadly. Still love the 50 though, probably the best 50 I've ever used(and that counts a few Leica ones I've worked with.)
Great video, thanks for sharing! Sold me on the 24-105 when I pick up my R6 next month.... don’t worry, the 70-200 is also on my list too. Thanks again!
It all depends on what you want to use it for as far as low light. For a wedding, I dont think it’s good enough. if you’re talking about Astro, some people dont like shooting under F4 so it would be fine. If i were going to get a dedicated lens for low light it probably wouldn’t be a zoom lens, but a fast aperture prime.
'Gear Used' is missing ND filters and step rings. I've recently spent couple hours trying to find some, but manufactures say nothing about the compatibility...
Just ordered the R6(Canon refurb!) but the 24-105/4 is out of stock pretty much everywhere. I might go ahead and pick up that 35/1.8 so I can get some shooting in while I wait for the zoom to came back in stock. That said, I've also considered going for the 24-70/2.8 since that seems in good supply right now. I'd lose reach but gain a stop. Thoughts?
Congrats! You’ll love the R6. the 24-70 is quite a bit more expensive too, i think. It all depends on what you need the lens for, I love the 24-105, I ordered one for one of my second shooters and it was like 2 or 3 month wait which is crazy. As far as the 24-70, I’d personally hold out for the 24-105 because I’ve always felt limited with just the 24-70 with the focal range, but that’s totally personal preference. If you’ve already have the 35mm f1.8, it may feel a little limiting to just have the reach of 70, just a thought though.
@@TonyMellinger Sadly, I don't have ANY lenses yet, so I'm a bit torn. I rented the R6/24-105 combo before a week-long vacation, and loved it. That said, looking at the shots, every 105mm shot could have easily been achieved by taken a half-step forward. Still, the 24-70 is quite a bit more expensive.
Awesome video i'm about to move over to the R system as well. Question: Does using the ring adapter increase the effective focal ranges of the EF lenses? So if i'm using the EF 16-35mm f4 lens and use the adapter on an R camera body will that 16-35mm now be different?
It doesn’t really change the focal length at all. The lens mount on the EF bodies is farther away from the sensor so with the adaptor on an RF body, it’s essentially the same place. But That’s also why the RF lenses can’t go on the EF bodies the mount would be in a much different location on the EF camera. On the R series, all of the EF lenses are essentially the same focal length.
Thanks for this video! Let me ask you this. I have a canon ef 24-70 f/2.8 L 1st version - I’m have weird issues with it jittering when shooting video. I really want to replace it and was hoping the rf 24-105 f/4 was better at focusing specifically for video. Or I also thought about getting the ef 24-70 f/2.8 L II Thoughts?
The rf 24-105 is incredible. Some of those really old lenses just aren’t made for the new tech. They do work, sometimes better than they do on Ef mount cameras but the new RF glass is next level 😍
I just bought the canon eos R and 24-105 f4-7.1 usm and 50mm 1.8 RF, I am pretty happy with these two and probably buy RF 70-200 2.8 in future if not then RF 85mm f2. that is all I need.
Hey Tony . Nice video as always . What about the upcoming 85mm rf macro lens canon will release in October ? I think this would be also a nice option . :)
Very intriguing lens and can't wait for it to come out. I am a huge fan of the 85mm focal length so it will be interesting to see how well it does! I haven't ordered one yet, I think I'll wait until I see how well it performs but I imagine it will be a great lens.
My first 3 lenses: 1) 24-105mm f4-7.1 STM for general photography 2) 50mm f1.8 STM for portraits and bokehs. 3) Samyang 135mm f2 for astro. total cost is less than USD 800.
Nice video! And thankfully, you're talking in a relaxed fashion! Subscribed... By any chance, Do you know any stabilized RF ~12mm prime lens for low light?
Hey there. Thanks for the sub! No 12mm yet from canon, I’m excited for their 14-35 though, that’s probably the closest you’ll get. I”m not sure about third party lenses
I am not a pro tog,. But an enthusiast. I started with the 24-105 F4L. And yes, this is my favourite. My next lens was the 35mm Macro... So i'm with you up until this point. But given the focal range of my 1st lens, I am bypassing the 70-200mm and opting for the 100-500mm L (I'll be getting shot of my beloved 70-200 F2.8L EF). I will be buying me one this coming weekend. Yes it's slightly more expensive, but given the ability of the Canon R mount mirrorless system to easily accommodate higher ISO values, I get more reach for my buck (500mm Vs 200mm) on my full frame. And that can only be good. We agree on one thing though... The R mount glass is fantastic. There is so much potential with it. Rumoured that the glass is designed to resolve with a future 90Mp sensor... We already benefit from the quality.
Yea! They 100-500 is very interesting! I’m actually really bummed the 70-200 doesnt work with the extenders. I’m sure that 100-500 will be incredible and not much bigger than the size of the EF 70-200
You echo my feelings exactly. I’m not a pro, just a long time serious amateur (60 years since starting with a used M3 and a 50mm Summicron). My last was the D5 Mk IV so I already have the L series 16-35mm f2.8 and the 70-200mm f2.8. I’ve got to believe Canon is pushing prices beyond where most amateurs want to be. When they lose enough of that market prices will be forced down. I like your video. Good pace and details I need. Keep them coming!
I bought an R as a retirement gift, c/w the 24-10 f4 kit lens, which seemed a no-brainer. My first FF digital camera. It’s a really nice camera to use and the lens is extremely versatile. It’s the one I use most of the time. Add an extension tube, and it’s a reasonable ‘macro’ performer. I later bought the 70-200 f2.8 and later again the 15-35 f2.8, both of which produce some stunning results, even in my hands. The 70-200 has very close native focus, but add an extension tube and the ‘macro’ results are really good. I’m now waiting for the “unique” macro lens that Canon promised when the R was launched, for true macro. It’s a little disappointing that the 2 x teleconverter does not work with the 70-200, but perhaps there will be another solution eventually. The only other lens that I would like would be a native RF wide-angle zero distortion lens from Laowa, rather than their current 12mm offering, which has been adapted from an older lens.
Rf 70-200 2.8 is my first professional glass i bought for my EOS-R.
Appreciate a youtuber still giving out info on EOS R
🤘🏻👊🏼 it’s a solid camera!!
For filmmaking (meaning, narratives) with a non-crop R camera, you need these:
1. 24-70 f/2.8 IS (main lens)
2. 70-200 f/2.8 IS
3. A fast 35 or 50 prime for low light and "normal" shots
4. An ultra-wide at around 17mm.
That's all. This covers anything you'd ever need for your short films or features.
Interesting choice with the 17mm. I typically can get by with just the 24 but I know some people like those ultra wides.
Wrong
Yup, only need about $10,000 AUD in lenses 😢 I’m dying for a 24-105 red but man even that is about $1500USD here even used $1000
😂. No.
@@Burritosarebetterthantacos Yes. It covers 99% of the cases.
The 24-105 L f4 kit lens is surprisingly stunning. I hate to say it but it is the lens I tend to use all the time. I dont use the 35mm because I have the 15-35 2.8 R, simply amazing. Then for telephoto, I use the EF L 100-400. With the R adapter, sometimes with the 1.4x TC.
I’m right there with you. The 24-105 is on my camera 95% of the time these days
I'm getting an R6 Mk II in a couple of weeks along with the kit RF 24-105 f4. I've also snagged a good price on pristine 2nd hand RF 24 f1.8 & RF85 f2, along with the tiny 16 f2.8 & 50 f1.8.
To complement this I'm looking at getting the EF 100-400 mark II (great lens at bargain 2nd hand prices), and just for the fun of it the RF 800 f11 & a 2x extender to get silly shoots at 1600 f22 😜
it’s not a kit lens. lol
Hey Tony, great video. I picked up an EOS R very recently and for the first time ever I picked it up with the 24-105 and I am absolutely blown away by it. It is SO SHARP, and focuses so well, i'm having so much fun with it. Also, the IS is unbelievable, even today I got a 105mm shot at 0,4'' and it was SHARP.
I have always carried arround my 16-35 as my main for everything but I'm in love with the 24-105 at the moment. Can't wait to pick some other RF lenses in the future, i'm personally waiting for a 70-200 f4
Yea I agree with you! Blown away by the performance! I’ve heard that 70-200 f4 is on its way!!
Man I got an RP and I want this lens so badly. I’m just afraid it won’t be as good as my prime 35mm.
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I agreed with these 3 lenses
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I got eos-R with 24-105 f4 as well and love it. What do you think about 15-35 and could that replace 35mm prime in your set?
I have original 16-25 f2.8 and like the focal range, but mot sure yet about the upgrade, because the photo is just pricey hobby for me :)
My first rf lens was the 35mm can’t go wrong with that one , got the 85mm f1.2 after. The 85mm f1.2 is a beast
Yea it’s in my list to play with. It’d be nice to ditch the adapter on my 85mm f1.4 IS
I have the 35MM & The 24-105MM I still thinking if I have to get the 85MM
@@TonyMellinger I was thinking of getting the 85mm 1.4 for my Canon R, any reasons as to why I shouldn't? I can't quite afford the RF 85 1.2 and do not think the 85mm F2 is a good compromise.
Really need help with this
My Ef 24-70 lens is broken. The repair is around 600€
I mostly use the canon R5 with the adapter and this lens and sometimes my RF 35mm
I've been researching and I'd like to know what you think is the best option:
Buy canon RF 85mm F2 and the new RF 16mm
(since I already have the RF 35mm)
or
Just buy the RF 24-105 f4 lens
(everybody seems to love this lens)
The difference between the two options is just 100€
I can't decide between this 2 options. What would you do?
Also which lenses do you think have the best quality and durability?
Thank you ❤️
@@joaoluis4039 …how did you end up?
I sold my RF 24-105, lacks nice enough bokeh, slow AF, not a fan of the zoom range and sharpness isn't what I expected from an L series lens, picked up the RF 15-35, 28-70 and 70-200.
wow, that's interesting, I haven't had any trouble wish sharpness. Interesting how we all need different lenses. I found the 15-35 underwhelming. and obviously a huge fan of the 70-200. ha!
@@TonyMellinger Honestly can't wait for the R5, mainly because of animal eye af
@@frostybe3r Sometimes you need to micro adjust the lens. My EF 25-105 needed like +15 to be as sharp as it could. The EF 24-105 II was better but not perfect either.
@@saynomore192 Mirrorless doesn't require micro adjustment.
@@frostybe3r Oh. I had no idea. I'm coming from 5D mkII/III/IV. Only now (whenever the R5 releases) dipping my toes into mirrorless. Thanks for the info :)
LOL! That biker! I absolutely love the 24-105. The more I use it, the more I love it, and the more indispensable it becomes. The quality and range almost makes other ranges obsolete if you know how to use them and aren't in need of specific specs. I can carry my 35mm, and the 24-105 in my smaller camera bag for trips and whatnot. Great recommendation of lenses brother; and thank you for all of your help throughout the year.
😝 no one else mentioned him haha. I agree with you, the more i use the 24-105, the better it gets! Keep up the great work! Glad I can help!!
My first 2 RF lenses are the 28-70 f2 , and the 85 1.2 DS :) got both on really good sales in anticipation of the R5 months ago :) I am planning to sell a few EF lenses before making any more purchases, I may try to keep using EF until the 14-28 f2, and I am curious to see how people rate the 70-135 f2 compared to the 70-200 and decide down the road :)
That’s a heavy hitting kit! I’ve been kind of eying that 85mm DS now that I’ll have IBIS. I may have to rent it 😏
Tony Mellinger I highly recommend it! I tested it on an R at night in the city and was actually amazed how well it performed! It consistently nailed the focus, even on a moving Tram, at 1.2, and it’s incredibly sharp even wide open! It definitely outperformed what I could achieve with the 85 1.2 EF on a 5D4 :) really love how the bokeh looks up close at 100% as well... the IBIS should help push it that little bit further in situations where the subject isn’t moving :)
The only problem on 28-70 vs 24-70 : 4mm on the wise and, weight/size and also does not have image stabilization
@@Manihsi the 28-70 actually gets the full 8 stops with the R5 IBIS (rated to the same level as the 2.8 :))) you come accustomed to the weight quickly, and the boksh / separation is enough to take the lens from a reliable all situation lens, to a really enjoyable lens! I haven’t hit a situation yet where the 28 has been not wide enough yet, although I have used my 11-24 with the EF adapter and been happy with the results!
24-105 , 1 good prime like 85 1.2 for portraits, 100-500
That’s a legit setup!
@@TonyMellinger 😇
Depends what you're doing with it. 35 prime or 50 is a good knock around. A 24-70 is a good alaround 70-200 for portraits. 800 f11and 600 f11, 100-400 for sports and wildlife
I’m planning to buy an R6 soon so this was very helpful, thanks!
Glad i could help! Did you get your R6 yet?? If you’re looking for a cheap RF lens, the 50mm is excellent too!
@@TonyMellinger I haven’t gotten it yet, but I’m still planning to buy one. I’ve watched your video on the 50mm and that’s also a lens I’m considering buying, thanks again for the help!
I dont do portraits, etc and I am not a pro. I have eos r and the rf 24-105 and the ef 100-400ii I use with control ring adapter- it is quite long, but I have been able to use it without a tripod. I am debating myself on rf 70-200 f4, but I guess I should buy the rf 35 macro for less light scenarios.
I'm seriously looking for a new lens for my EOS R but my budget is nowhere near what I really want. I was leaning towards the 35mm you have on this video but I just saw the RF85mm F2 Macro IS STM on Canon's site. What's your thoughts on this lens? As good or better than the 35mm? I'm wanting something for portraits and macro. I have a 24-240 f4 and really like it but I feel like I could do better as far as lenses go. Any advice would be nice :-)
Yea, they just released the new RF 85 with IS. I haven’t used it yet because it comes out in the next few months but I imagine it’s a great lens for the price. 85mm is pretty much my favorite focal length for portraits so if that’s what you’ll use it for, absolutely get the 85 over the 35 glad you’re enjoying the 24-240. Figure out where you spend most of your time and think about getting a lens at that focal length!
Canon Lenses too heavy ...thats not mirrorless looks like should be!
go sony mirrorless buy light lenses
expensive and heavy lenses not automatically good lenses
look Tamron cheap and small.....and ...... better than sony lenses
I like heavier lenses. They add stability and better quality glass. Typically lighter and small glass is cheap and low quality
EF lenses are still viable. Example, the EF/RF versions of the 70-200 2.8L are almost identical in optical tests and the EF version will never be a dust sucker as all functions are internal. I may buy a RF 35 but if I had the money, I'd buy the EF 35 1.4L II in a heartbeat.
I don’t have any more ef lenses. You’re right, you can pick them up for less now, but the simplicity of not messing with an adapter and sharpness of the RF glass won me over. There’s also some really interesting RF lenses now like the 10-20mm and 24-105 f2.8. We’ll see what they come up with next!
Thank you for this video. I didn't know that filter step up ring existed! I was about to sell my filters.
I'm still hesitating if I get the 24mm or the 35mm. I do a lot of landscaping and a bit of astro, I guess the 24mm would be more versatile, wouldn't it?
If you do quite a bit of Astro/landscape, you’d probably be more happy with the 24. If you want a little more versatile and want good photos of people with less distortion, I’d go for the 35 which is still very capable.
My first 3 RF lenses are not even made yet :(
No little 50mm, no 135mm, no 20mm, no 300F4(Macro), no pancakes, no F4 UWA, no 70-200F4.
Just bought the EOS R with 24-105mm F/4 L kit from the recent refurb sale. Very excited as I have been waiting to pull the trigger for over half a year :-). I am upgrading from a T3i kit that came with the 18-55 and 55-250mm lenses. I loved the T3i and basically learned photography on it with great results! Those two lenses pretty much covered 90% plus of what I like to shoot. But now I am trying to figure out the most affordable way to get that 300-400 mm reach on my EOS R. I am leaning toward the EF adapter with a EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 is Ii Usm lens as it seems very affordable with good results. But, if there was a 400mm lens that was also affordable, I might go for that. Anyone have any suggestions? I keep thinking they will come out with a RF 70-300, but no word yet.
Nice, that 55-250 stm is a great lens. I hear you with the 400mm reach. I haven’t heard anything about a RF70-300, but who knows they may surprise us
My first 3 RF Lenses: 28-70mm F2, 70-200 F2.8, 85mm F1.2.
That’s a solid list. Quite expensive, but def does the trick!
I have a question about the kit lens will it work for YT videos/vlogging?
Yea absolutely
Got the 28 f2.8, 50 1.8 and 24-105 f4. Maybe will get the rf 100-400 if i ever get into wildlife
That’s a good kit! How do you like that 28? I’m tempted to try it out for its size!
My first 3 RF lenses... 24-105mm, 35mm and Samyang RF mount 14mm MF
Nice setup!
You stacked 70-200mm Horizontally.
Huh 🤷🏼♂️
started with the eos r then the r6 now the r5 and these lenses are solid choices JMO subbed.
Awesome!!! Thanks so much for watching. I had the eos r and now have the R5 and R6 now 🤣 they’re so good! Thanks for the sub!! I’ll check out your channel!
And for some reason i dont like the 35mm look, pity as it looks like a decent lens with is. Really annoys me tbh, makes me feel like I miss something😂
Yea, curious what the new 35mm is like! I haven’t tried one yet.
I have also those same three RF-lenses. The 24-105/4 zoom lens is my favourite, specially for travelling. I spent during 2019 all together four weeks in Russia shooting most of my pics with EOS R and 24-105. But my best shots I took with my old but reliable EF 16-35/2.8 II.The weight of my camera bag was only 4,3 kg. The RF 70-200/2.8 is my favourite for sports and portrait photography. That lens is so good by size, guality and sharpness.
I hope Canon would produce smaller size lenses. Kind of B-versions. I hate, as an amatour photographer, those bulky RF f/2.0 lenses. For example I love my EF 50/1.2 lens. I never will buy the RF version of that. Should I replase my EF 100/2.8 macro and EF 16-35/2.8 with a RF versions right now? An expensive question.
I’m right there with you. I haven’t replaced my ef 100mm yet because of both price and size of the new one.
I have a R7 and just one lens RF 18-45mm, and i wanna know what the best next one for wild life.
You need to get a telephoto lens. All depends on budget. You could look at the 70-200mm 4f. There’s some cheaper options that that though
I am actually going with this lineup but adding the 85 f2 as well. The 35 mm should work well and being able to make it a 50mm with the 1.6 crop is a win-win.
Right! I haven’t used the crop mode really yet, something I’d like to play around with more! I’m looking forward to the 85 f2 as well, the 85 f1.4L IS is one of my favorites!
Can I ask what you mean with the 1.6 crop (I thought that was something that belonged to the old crop sensor camera days when I had my 60d)?
Thanks a lot!
Susanne Geert yes that’s the crop. The efs lenses are made for a crop sensor so if you stick it on a full frame camera the outer 1/3 of the frame would just be a black circle. The RF-EF adaptor accepts efs lenses and automatically adds the crop so you get the best image you can. I’m so glad they added the ability to use efs lenses though. Something you couldn’t ever do with full frame dslrs
Good job, Tony, although I’m a fan of the 50 1.2L and 85 1.2L. Love the 24-105L as you do and 35 1.8 macro. RF is the way to go. I’m keeping my EOS R and RP for now. Love them both and would like to get to know them better before jumping to the R6
That’s a great idea. I for some reason just have never spend much time at 50mm, but 85mm f1.4L is one of my favorites! That’s a good call to keep using your gear to the max!
Life's Beautiful same 50mm 1.2 and 85 1.2 best lens ever
2022. The RF24105L costs 50% more than in 2020. You have a two-month wait to get one, and it's almost impossible to get second-hand. With the release of the R6 and its noise management, this lens has become the lens of choice for more and more social and wedding photographers. It is the only RF lens that has increased in price, month over month since 2020. It is in high demand.
Pretty crazy huh… mine has been used hard and put away wet. I wonder if I could get the front element buffed or replaced, I should send it in instead of trying to replace it ha!
@@TonyMellinger I just have bought my own 24-104 L to pair it with my new brand R6 (bought with real kit 24-105 f4-7.1). Here, in Poland - this is only one lens of L-line excluded from cashback... magic....
Great video! You are so right, firmware updates for lenses! The whole R system is forward thinking. My Island lens would be the 24-70mm.
Rafael Ludwig it’s a good one too! I just love being able to punch into 105 and using the f4 aperture creatively. No one can say there’s a shortage of good lenses these days!!
@@TonyMellinger So so true! Great time to be a creative!
Too expensive. I have the R5, the 24-105, 70-200, F/4 and the 100-500 all RF. I held back and kept a few Nikon F mount lenses with two Nikon DSLR bodies. I have yet to purchase a wide angle lens. debating on a used F mount for my nikon or a RF mount for the R5. I came from a Nikon system and had no prior Canon equipment. My lenses all need to be weather sealed. Fast focus is super with the R5 and birding is a treat with the 100-500. However for a serious hobbyist and now retired, looking back, my Nikon systems would have continued to do me well.
That’s a nice kit. Love the 24-105 and 70-200 f4. That’s perfect for almost everyone. The 100-500 is glorious, one of my favorite lenses, but I typically rent it when I need it
@@TonyMellinger I went to the local camera store and they have a used/new condition 15-35mm for 1599.00 I have it loan to me and I am checking it out. I am not sure if I need that wide of a lens. the 24-105 is just a good can do everything lens on the R5.
Glad to hear your endorsement of the 24-105, I preordered the R5 kit and was wavering between spending the extra $1500 on the 24-70 or not for the 2.8 (I might get one later along with the 70-200)
Smart move. You’ll enjoy the RF24-105. I sure do!
I love flash photography. The 24-105 is especially great when paired with flash. The one I take when traveling. Swiss Army Knife. The quality is not the same as the great primes but who has time to switch lenses.
I got the 24 to 105 rf and rp and i absolutely love it!
Agreed! It’s so good!
I got the same, I love too
As an amateur shooting for approximately 6 months, I initially jumped in with both feet into the RF system.
Learning how to shoot on the Eos R and RF 50 1.2 was really great.. IQ and bokeh is truly spectacular.
My second lens arrived last week the RF 28-70 F2 - looking forward to testing that out in the coming days. No regrets with choosing Canon and RF glass.
Nice! I bet those lenses are great! I rented the 28-70 in June for a wedding.
When I can justify the purchase of an R5, the 28-70 f2 will be the first lens I get. Now I don't have a 24-70 f2.8, so the 28-70 is a natural purchase for me, but it is also something you can't get for any other brand of camera and it has a very useful zoom range.
15-35mm f2.8 and 50mm f1.2 are my work horses. However the 35 1.8 is very good for macro work
That’s a good setup for real estate. The 50mm f1.2 is becoming a favorite of mine
EF 70-200 looks like crap on mirrorless. What are you talking about?
Oh I don’t use any EF glass these days.
Did this dude just say an $1,100 lens is inexpensive?
Haha it’s alllll relative isn’t it
@@TonyMellinger i support lol
It seems like having a 1.8 prime makes up for the price cost of rhe 28-70mm
I wasn’t a huge fan of the 28-70. I just never connected with it.
how you made this cool intro?
Check out this video I made on it: th-cam.com/video/kynq9q_FOuE/w-d-xo.html
what about 28-70 f2.0 ?
I know a lot of people really love it, but every time I’ve used it, i never thought it was really spectacular. I think part of it for me was the focal length, the other part was the price. It’s a really good lens, I just never really felt it connected with me...
So I put the RF 15-35, 28-70, and 70-200 in my cart and went to purchase them.. with tax and shipping it was almost $10,000
🤣 is that the dream setup??
I cant make up my mind with the 28-70 F2 or the 24- 70 F2.8 IS I know 1 with the R has IS but if I get the R5 then IS don't matter as much and then 100 -500 lol
I did that....and hit the buy button! Lol. Deffo choose the 28-70 over the kit lens in my opinion.
are you just serious about sharpness increasing by firmware update?
Af, all sorts of stuff. They just dial in all of it through firmware
@@TonyMellinger can you please explain, how LENS firmware can affect its sharpness?
Broo, u dont know how much this video helped me with my dreams of making videos as job! Thank YOU!
Glad i could help! What camera do you have??
M50 rn, realistic dream is r6 and that 24-105mm f4 lens!
@@mat1ashaukka yeah that’s one of my main setups tbh. You can have so many other lenses, but goodness, that RF24-105 f4 is amazingly versatile. I am a huge fan of the M50, i think it’s the closest thing to a crop sensor R series camera there is. Enjoy!
I do a lot of landscape, so I love the RF 15-35. It's not for everybody, but it's been great for me. 100% agree with the 24-105 and the 70-200.
Yea I’ve heard great things about the 15-35, I just haven’t been able to get on board. I don’t do a ton of super wide shots so the 24 helps me with the wide, I can imagine it’s great for ultra wide.
I have a EF70-200 f/2.8 IS II, Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC for my EF-mount camera. Moving to RF camera, I probably want to get the 85mm f/1.2
That seems to be a really popular lens!!
I have:
28mm 2.8
50mm 1.4
70-200mm 2.8 II
10-18mm 4.5-5.6\
(and a couple of other starter kit lenses not worth mentioning).
I'm looking for my next lens. I take Portraits, Macro, and pictures of my family mostly. With this lineup, which one would you choose next?
Maybe you could look into the 100mm macro. That’s a great lens
I now have 4 lenses on my RP;
- 24-105 f4
- 70-200 f4
- 35 f1.8
- 85 f2
This suits my needs perfectly. Vacation/sightseeing; 24-105. Nice walk in nature/outside photo's of my toddler son; 70-200. Low light or #GIVEMEBOKEH? Get out the primes.
If i need to discard 1, to keep in line with the video... I'd toss the 85.
That’s a great kit. I think this video came out before the 85 and 70-200 f4 (and 50 1.8)
The f4 is not for me... Nothing that I can't use in max conditions beyond the f2.8 is... If I would be a videographer, for sure I would use the 24-105 f4 but I am mostly a photographer and I love fast primes, in fact, the only lens that goes passed the f1.8 is the 70-200 f2.8...
Yea the speed is nice for photo, you can still get incredible photos at f4 though. Just personal preference I suppose!
Did you sell your EOS R or do you have it for sale.
I sold it in 2020
When I got the R5 I got the RF 50mm f/1.8 as a freebie from the place I bought the R5. The next purchase was the RF 24-105 f/4L. And I still have the EF70-300mm L. I traded in the EF24-70mmf/2.8L first series which was a beautiful lens but was big and heavy and I often left it at home. I was considering the EF24-70mmf/4 which is a cute lens but held off. Canon don’t make a RF24-70mmf/4L so I got the 105mm.
Sounds like a journey. I’d personally rather have the range than the faster aperture.
There adapter is not that big and several RF lenses are big and bulky. Put the 28-70 f/2 on and you will see what i mean. It would be a mistake to buy a 70-200 if you never use that focal range, so i think it is a mistake to recommend that as a starting lens. The 35 is a great deal and so is the refurb 24-105 f/4 on sale. I would go really slow on that 70-200 unless i knew for a fact i would be using it a lot. For example, some folks may find they enjoy wildlife, so the 1-500 RF would be way better and it costs the same. If someone sprung for that sweet looking 70-200 f/2.8 RF, they may be cash depleted for what they really want, that 1-500 RF. That person would be hurt by your blanket recommendation. The fact is, it really depends and it depends more as the price goes up!
Sure. I agree with you. And the 100-500 is a really attractive lens. I think once you get a few lenses you start to dial in your style of shooting and start to get a feel of what you’re looking for. That said, I’ve never heard anyone complain about the 70-200. I can’t wait to try out the 100-500 sometime!
If you could only have the 35mm prime or 24-100 which would you chose?
The 24-105. It’s sooo versatile. But the 35mm does handle light better, I’d rather have the reach of the 24-105
@@TonyMellinger yeah I managed to get one used for about $1000 USD I think that and I already have a 50mm EF lens is better than a RF 35mm and EF 50mm only. I hope it’s sharp and good for noobs though 🤣 I think when talking price the RF 35mm, 50mm, 24-105mm are your best value for money lenses it sounds like.
@@Larimuss yea for sure
Just got my R6 Mk II a couple of weeks ago, and part of the purchase was an EF >RF adapter so that I could use my beloved 24-105 with the mirrorless. It's as good a pairing of camera and lens as I've ever seen.
You should try the RF version. It’s my daily workhorse, i absolutely love it
Hello and thank you for this video. in your opinion, on a Canon RP, I would have the best image rendering with the RF 35 mm f1.8 or with the EF 35 mm f2 IS USM (taking the same aperture: f2. f4, f5.6, f8. ..) ??? Thank you in advance for your answers. (I only do Photo: Street photo, Portraits, landscapes. Regards,
Philgood ...
I think you’ll get pleasing image out of both. The RF is probably sharper. Ditching the adapter is a big deal too. On the RP with the 35mm is a great feeling small setup.
I love the f4 L lenses personally. Not a pro photographer and do not shoot in super low light so its never been an issue. That being said my kit is fairly extensive...
the 14 to 35 f4 L, the 25 to 105 f4L and the 70 to 200 f4L make up my core kit. I also have a range of the standard prime lenses because they are also amazing and would do well in low light if I needed it. I have the RF 35mm, 50mm and 85mm primes, and the EF Sigma Art lenses on an adapter in the same sizes. I use these for mostly portrait photography and urban photography. All shooting on an EOS R8.
I think my next lense needs to be the 24 to 70 f2.8 L. That thing is a beast that could replace a whole bunch of lenses in my kit.
That’s quite the kit!
Hi, I use a Canon 7Dii with sigma art 18-35mm f/1.8 lens which I love the most. I would like to upgrade my camera body to R6 and sell 7DII. But I would like to keep my Sigma Art lens. I would like to know your feedback about using this lens with EOS R adapter for both photography and videography. Thanks
I am not too familiar with Sigma glass, i typically just use Canon. BUT... all of my EF lenses have worked better on the R series cameras than they did even on my DSLRs. As far as the 18-35, that is an EF-S lens so there’s a few differences. EF-S lenses still work on the R6, but the MP count is smaller for photo. For video, it’s a great lens, it just has the APSC crop at 1.6. On the EOS R the 60fps for video didn’t work with EF-S lenses, but that is addressed in the R5 and R6 and 60fps works with EF-S lenses! I think for video, its a big upgrade. For photo, if you can deal with the smaller MP count (basically half) then it’s a great lens.
Really clear and helpful suggestions! I'm interested in moving over to RF cameras but it is good to know my 70-200 EF lens will work just fine with an adapter.
They sure will!!
It actually will work better. The focus system(at least in the R5 and R6) feels much snappier, it wont drive the af motor faster, but it feels like it lock focus quicker(maybe less overshoot?) i tried my 85 1.2 and 100 macro on an R5 with adapter in a store.
I’m looking at an R, or R6. Current budget would allow for R6 with 24-105 f4-7.1, or R with 24-105 f4. Should I go for the better body, or better lens. Can’t get both at the moment. I do mainly video, but dabble with photography
I’ve had both the R and the R6 and personally I think the R6 is the better investment and will last you much longer. I would buy the r6 and save up for your lenses then.
For a 24-105mm lens, should i go with "F4L IS USM" or "F4-7.1 IS STM" ?? What is the difference other than some additional noice??
I really struggled with the 4-7.1. I just couldn’t get great images out of it. I just think the build quality is a lot bette in the 4.
50 f1.2 , 24-105 f4 , 85 f1.2 for me for my RF system, because i focus in portraits photography
Would you recommend getting an EOS R today? I have an m50 and I need to step up and I’ve been drawn to the EOS R!
Yea absolutely. It’s a great camera to step up from the m50!
Awesome, thanks!
good imformative video ,thank you
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching
Is the F2.8 RF 24-70mm L-glass is significally sharper than the F4 RF 24-105mm L from an optical *quality* point of view?
technically I’m not sure the answer. I would say visually I can’t tell a difference though
Can someone tell me the difference between rf24-105 and is stm lenses
The big difference between the two is 1. Fixed aperture (which is a big deal for exposure and bokeh) and 2. Glass quality. I just never was happy with the cheaper 24-105’s image.
@@TonyMellinger in my situation I dont think ill have a choice due to budget constraints. Do you think its a big enough deal to delay getting the system to save for the higher quality
I have the kit lense as well and thinking of grabbing the affordable prime lenses next but I can't decide? What would you recommend?
35 f1.8 & 85mm f2
35 f1.8 & 50mm 1.8
50mm 1.8 & 85mm f2 (would it be too similar?)
Or all three or one of these and save for the 70-200
Actually working on a video regarding that very topic!
I was thinking of getting the 85mm 1.4 for my Canon R, any reasons as to why I shouldn't? I can't quite afford the RF 85 1.2 and do not think the 85mm F2 is a good compromise.
Love the 85mm f1.4. The only disadvantage is the adaptor. There’s nothing wrong with the ef lenses on the camera and in my perspective they work better than they do on EF mount cameras... but the RF lenses are next level. Hard to explain until you start using them for yourself.
I have the 24-105 f4, 35mm f1,8 and I want to buy the 85mm f2 macro instead the 70-200 f2,8, because 70-200 is too much expansive. This kit is enough for the moment. With 35 and 85 I can cover the 50mm and 135mm for video with crop
Yeah, you make a great point. That 85mm f2.0 came out around or right after I made this video. Super excited to try out that 85 f2, i think it’s going to be incredible!
Just picked up my Refurbished 24-105L from Canon Direct for $728.00 + shipping. So far I'm loving it and hoping that the IQ is as good or better than the Sigma 24-105 Art that I have been using. I used to have the EF 70-200 f/4.0 IS but for the type of traveling we do found the EF 70-300L f/4-5.6 to be more useful.
Nice! I wonder if they’ll come out with some sort of RF 70-300.
Can't believe I have only found your channel today. BUT, I think your channel is great - subbed. I got the EOS R in early 2020 and have been playing with it all year (and am still learning). I too love the F4 24-105 lens but am looking to get some more this year.
Welcome to the Channel, glad you found me! The eos r is incredible! I would also suggest the rf 50mm f1.8! Great entry level lens.
Wow I already got the 2, 24-105 and 35 rf..really leaning on getting the 85 1.4 RF Samyang (hope you can grab one and review it would be very helpful) then get the 70-200 after I made enough savings..Thanks for the tips a always..Keep em coming 😄👍
I’m a canon snob when it comes to lenses 😆, but maybe I’ll rent it sometime to do a review!! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!!
Good video as usual T. I have the RF 35MM 1.8. I'm going to look into the 24-105 RF after this video. Stay safe man. PEACE from ATL ✊🏾📸🎥
Def check out the RF 24-105. Seriously a BEAST of a lens!
@@TonyMellinger Will do!🙂
segrad1 - I’ll voice the other view. I used to have an EF 24-105L and found it to be my most boring lens. Maybe the new one is sharp enough to bring some wow factor, but I was underwhelmed with the original.
From a professional standpoint of “just get the shot”, however, it could be a workhorse, at least until light falls. Just stand where you are, zoom from wide to medium tele, frame, let IS do its thing, autofocus, and click. But to get the most stunning shot, it can be more dramatic to shoot wider, longer, or with a wider aperture. I found my photos with the kit lens to have a documentary, rather than artistic, feel. But again, that was the older EF - as well as my limited abilities, available subjects, and lighting. A lens only contributes so much.
Anyway, for artistic shooting, it wouldn’t be my first choice. As a workhorse without an f/2.8 budget, it might be exactly the right tool - especially if the new one is tack sharp.
@@JonFairhurst Thank you for the GREAT insight Brother John. I'm still learning but my focus has been on portraits, action figures (still a kid at heart) and some video. I'm probably not at the point where I would be able to discern the difference between the two lenses at this point in my photography journey. So for my needs, it would probably suffice. Once I make that job to the professional level, I would probably look to upgrade to the 2.8. PEACE from ATL ✊🏾📸🎥
Totally agree with you. The first time I used the original EF 24-105 I decided I would never use it again. They came out with the second version and it was absolutely an improvement but the RF version is by far better than all of the EF versions. Good insight!!
My impression of the Canon ND Filter Adapter is that it's probably made for videographers. I got one for myself and often struggled with it because the dial spins too smoothly without a dial lock to keep the stops I like to work with. So I ended up spinning the dial without knowing and that threw me off quite a bit. I was asking myself why Canon wouldn't put a dial lock then realized that having the dial spin smoothly without a clicking sound is better for the video. So I ended up buying separate ND filters for each RF lens I have. I'm still keeping it in case I need it again.
Ah yes, that does make sense.
Nice dude. I’m looking to get the R7 and the 70 to 200 will be my first. And Not sure what the second will be.
That will be a solid setup! 💪🏼 going with the f2.8 or f4 version?
I traded a bunch of gear today for an R6 and some lenses. I got the 24-105, 70-200 f4, and two Zeiss primes, 25 f1.4 and the 50 f2m. My next lens will be the 600 f11.
Nice! I rented the 800mm for a trip in Colorado and it was a lot of fun!
when i traded all my 5D4 and 7d2 gear and most of my lenses for the R5, i got the RF 24-105 F4-7.1 and i found it worked really well until i tried HDR and it says lens not compatable WHAT!! Noooo i love doing mild HDR shots and to say i was disapointed was an under statement
That’s strange. I’m not sure why that lens wouldn’t be compatible
What I will get: 85mm1.2, 50mm 1.2, and 70-200mm 2.8. I absolutely hate wide angle lenses.
Nice. That’s a great setup.
I ended up with an R5, 15-35mm 2.8, 50mm 1.2, and 70-200 2.8. This gives me wide zoom, telephoto zoom, and a 50mm prime which I cannot live without. However, I am sort of wondering if I should've went with the 28-70 as everyone says it's comparable or straight up better than the 50 1.2, and can zoom. There was a sale at a local store but it's gone now sadly. Still love the 50 though, probably the best 50 I've ever used(and that counts a few Leica ones I've worked with.)
That’s a great kit. I love the RF50mm f.12L. One of my go to lenses these days!
just got my canon R5 , i think top 2 lenses would be RF24-70, f2.8 and RF70-200 ,2.8
Nice
16mm is awesome! And so cheap
Yea, for sure! That lens wasn’t around when i made this video. Ha!
Great video, thanks for sharing! Sold me on the 24-105 when I pick up my R6 next month.... don’t worry, the 70-200 is also on my list too. Thanks again!
It’s incredible. I really love it
Is the 24-105 f4 good enough for low light situation or would you consider getting the 24-70 f2.8 or 28-70 f2 to upgrade from that lens in the future?
It all depends on what you want to use it for as far as low light. For a wedding, I dont think it’s good enough. if you’re talking about Astro, some people dont like shooting under F4 so it would be fine. If i were going to get a dedicated lens for low light it probably wouldn’t be a zoom lens, but a fast aperture prime.
'Gear Used' is missing ND filters and step rings. I've recently spent couple hours trying to find some, but manufactures say nothing about the compatibility...
ND Filter - amzn.to/2IODEy8
I use the 77mm for my 70-200 and 24-105. For the 35mm I use step up rings. And a 67mm ND because I already had one for a few other lenses.
Filter Step Up rings - amzn.to/2TvLT88
Im goin for the EOS R6... will ibis still work if I use an adapted sigma 24-70 f2.8 on it?
Yes it sure will!
Just ordered the R6(Canon refurb!) but the 24-105/4 is out of stock pretty much everywhere. I might go ahead and pick up that 35/1.8 so I can get some shooting in while I wait for the zoom to came back in stock. That said, I've also considered going for the 24-70/2.8 since that seems in good supply right now. I'd lose reach but gain a stop. Thoughts?
Congrats! You’ll love the R6. the 24-70 is quite a bit more expensive too, i think. It all depends on what you need the lens for, I love the 24-105, I ordered one for one of my second shooters and it was like 2 or 3 month wait which is crazy. As far as the 24-70, I’d personally hold out for the 24-105 because I’ve always felt limited with just the 24-70 with the focal range, but that’s totally personal preference. If you’ve already have the 35mm f1.8, it may feel a little limiting to just have the reach of 70, just a thought though.
@@TonyMellinger Sadly, I don't have ANY lenses yet, so I'm a bit torn. I rented the R6/24-105 combo before a week-long vacation, and loved it. That said, looking at the shots, every 105mm shot could have easily been achieved by taken a half-step forward. Still, the 24-70 is quite a bit more expensive.
Awesome video i'm about to move over to the R system as well. Question: Does using the ring adapter increase the effective focal ranges of the EF lenses? So if i'm using the EF 16-35mm f4 lens and use the adapter on an R camera body will that 16-35mm now be different?
It doesn’t really change the focal length at all. The lens mount on the EF bodies is farther away from the sensor so with the adaptor on an RF body, it’s essentially the same place. But That’s also why the RF lenses can’t go on the EF bodies the mount would be in a much different location on the EF camera. On the R series, all of the EF lenses are essentially the same focal length.
Thanks for this video! Let me ask you this. I have a canon ef 24-70 f/2.8 L 1st version - I’m have weird issues with it jittering when shooting video. I really want to replace it and was hoping the rf 24-105 f/4 was better at focusing specifically for video. Or I also thought about getting the ef 24-70 f/2.8 L II
Thoughts?
The rf 24-105 is incredible. Some of those really old lenses just aren’t made for the new tech. They do work, sometimes better than they do on Ef mount cameras but the new RF glass is next level 😍
@@TonyMellinger thanks for the reply! I went to buy the RF 24-105 and it's on back order... lol... so I may just have to get the RF 24-70 haha..
My eos rp came with a 24-240 zoom lens 😩 got it for 500 all together can’t complain
HOW, I would love that deal insanely
I just bought the canon eos R and 24-105 f4-7.1 usm and 50mm 1.8 RF, I am pretty happy with these two and probably buy RF 70-200 2.8 in future if not then RF 85mm f2. that is all I need.
You’ll love the eos r! It’s a great setup!
@@TonyMellinger thanks
Hey Tony . Nice video as always . What about the upcoming 85mm rf macro lens canon will release in October ? I think this would be also a nice option . :)
Very intriguing lens and can't wait for it to come out. I am a huge fan of the 85mm focal length so it will be interesting to see how well it does! I haven't ordered one yet, I think I'll wait until I see how well it performs but I imagine it will be a great lens.
My first 3 lenses:
1) 24-105mm f4-7.1 STM for general photography
2) 50mm f1.8 STM for portraits and bokehs.
3) Samyang 135mm f2 for astro.
total cost is less than USD 800.
Yea, the 50mm f1.8 is solid. That wasn’t out when this video was released. You’ve got a versatile setup. Is the Samyang an RF lens?
@@TonyMellinger The Samyang 135mm is an EF lens but I have the JJC EF-EOS R adapter.
Nice video! And thankfully, you're talking in a relaxed fashion! Subscribed...
By any chance, Do you know any stabilized RF ~12mm prime lens for low light?
Hey there. Thanks for the sub! No 12mm yet from canon, I’m excited for their 14-35 though, that’s probably the closest you’ll get. I”m not sure about third party lenses
@@TonyMellinger I'd prefer a prime anyway. Actually, I have yet to buy a zoom lens for any camera I had...! :D
What happend to the 17-40
That’s an EF lens, isn’t it?
I am not a pro tog,. But an enthusiast. I started with the 24-105 F4L. And yes, this is my favourite. My next lens was the 35mm Macro... So i'm with you up until this point. But given the focal range of my 1st lens, I am bypassing the 70-200mm and opting for the 100-500mm L (I'll be getting shot of my beloved 70-200 F2.8L EF). I will be buying me one this coming weekend. Yes it's slightly more expensive, but given the ability of the Canon R mount mirrorless system to easily accommodate higher ISO values, I get more reach for my buck (500mm Vs 200mm) on my full frame. And that can only be good. We agree on one thing though... The R mount glass is fantastic. There is so much potential with it. Rumoured that the glass is designed to resolve with a future 90Mp sensor... We already benefit from the quality.
Yea! They 100-500 is very interesting! I’m actually really bummed the 70-200 doesnt work with the extenders. I’m sure that 100-500 will be incredible and not much bigger than the size of the EF 70-200
You echo my feelings exactly. I’m not a pro, just a long time serious amateur (60 years since starting with a used M3 and a 50mm Summicron). My last was the D5 Mk IV so I already have the L series 16-35mm f2.8 and the 70-200mm f2.8. I’ve got to believe Canon is pushing prices beyond where most amateurs want to be. When they lose enough of that market prices will be forced down. I like your video. Good pace and details I need. Keep them coming!
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I cant wait for a "pancake" RF lens ha... own an RP, hope still a part of your "R family" lol
The RP is a great camera!!! I just suggested it to someone the other day!
Haha
We are part of the family but we're the wired kid brother
I bought an R as a retirement gift, c/w the 24-10 f4 kit lens, which seemed a no-brainer. My first FF digital camera. It’s a really nice camera to use and the lens is extremely versatile. It’s the one I use most of the time. Add an extension tube, and it’s a reasonable ‘macro’ performer. I later bought the 70-200 f2.8 and later again the 15-35 f2.8, both of which produce some stunning results, even in my hands. The 70-200 has very close native focus, but add an extension tube and the ‘macro’ results are really good. I’m now waiting for the “unique” macro lens that Canon promised when the R was launched, for true macro. It’s a little disappointing that the 2 x teleconverter does not work with the 70-200, but perhaps there will be another solution eventually. The only other lens that I would like would be a native RF wide-angle zero distortion lens from Laowa, rather than their current 12mm offering, which has been adapted from an older lens.