Hi Craig, I made this video years ago and there have been lots of responses about the aesthetics and I still stand by what I said many years later. But it is not just a shallow comment about the colour, it is also about the balance of the camera. If you have a Canon mirrorless camera (which is generally small - I still have the EOS R and now a Canon R8 which is even smaller), putting an adaptor and even a medium size EF lens (say a 24-105 f4) make it a very unbalanced set up that you may want to consider if it is a pleasurable experience shooting with. Although Canon charge way too much in my opinion for their new lenses, they are making them smaller and lighter to match the reduced size and weight of the camera bodies. All of the camera brands are. So just consider the balance of the balance of the camera and lens when you are adapting. Adapting EF lenses is an intermediate step between building up a native mirrorless lens collection, the RF lenses will get you eventually!
@@benharveyphotography Hi Ben, i understand what you are saying i have a little OCD myself but there was no mention of the balance in the video a good majority of it was just about it not looking good, the rest of the video was very good and informative about how lens preform better etc. Just a bit to much about the looks for me ......Sorry 😒😒😒
@craigyboy542 no problem. It was a long time ago as I said but I can take criticism where it is due. I haven’t deleted your comment, you should be able to see it on here unless YT has filtered it for some reason.
Thanks for the mention! Yes, it's great for adapted lenses to enjoy a new lease of life with better autofocus across a broader area, better face and eye detection and the possibility of IBIS on some models. As you know, I've been gradually testing all the new RF lenses and where possible comparing them against the old EF versions and yes, the new ones are expensive and in some cases large too. But in almost every case, the RF version does something different or better, like a broader zoom range, IS when it wasn't available on the EF model, smaller barrel, lighter barrel etc etc. I've also found in side-by-side tests that while the adapted EF lenses focus quickly, they're not normally as quick or as consistent as the native RF ones - you'll see that especially in my 70-200 and 100-500 reviews. In all cases so far, the RF model has been better overall in my opinion BUT they are pricier AND they also face the fact the latest EF versions were often already very good to start with.
Thanks Gordon. I am glad to see that Canon are productively increasing the performance of EF lenses, whilst subliminally tempting us all over to the RF lens line up. The RF lenses are great, the ones that I have used. I think I have done well to resist them for a year!
@@benharveyphotography well the problem is while they are better for a new buyer, if you already own the EF versions, they're also still very good. Also remember that adapting gives you the chance to use adapters with extra functionality, like filter holders or speedboosters.
For me, I dont really care if the EF lenses are not looking good on a Canon Mirrorless Camera as long as Im getting nice output. I'm currently using a 77d + Sigma 18-35 and Tamron 70-200 f2.8 G2. My initial plan is to upgrade to 90d but now I'm leaning toward R7.
The Sigma 18-35 F1.8 is a cropped sensor lens, it will work on an R6 but it will either show you massive vignette when at 18mm or automatically crop in 1.6x if it is smart enough to know that it is a cropped sensor lens. In essence you would get a 24-35mm lens equivalent as you cant use the wide end of the lens @@grg.000
Thank you for this video. Definitely helped to relieve any anxiety I may have had about needing to transition all my gear to mirrorless. Great review and well presented!
***Correction, it also takes vintage FD lenses, thus 4 types of lenses*** I use them with no issues on my R5 and I hear you about the aesthetics, although the color doesn't bother me, just the extra length. However, the control ring is a game changer as I now customized it for Kelvins. Insane customizability. If you are thinking about getting a mirrorless, buy EF L's or FD's! You will get every focal length possible and can use the 1.6 crop mode for extra reach when in a pinch. My 50 1.2 came alive wide open on the R5, I have never seen such responsive AF even when using my 50 1.4 wide open as well, notorious for hunting but not anymore. R bodies are a no brainer if you want to evolve in photography.
Hi Fred, the FD lenses fit on the R bodies without an adaptor? I had no idea. I only have one FD lens that I use with a reverse ring for macro...but that’s interesting. I also use the crop mode when shooting video. If you export in 1080 then you can film in 4K which makes my new 35mm full frame, a 60mm with Canons 1.7x crop when shooting in 4K, and then of course you can punch in to double that in video editing software.
@@benharveyphotography Hello Ben, they fit with an FD-EOS R adaptor which works great. I bought the Vello brand from B&H and the Fotasy one from amazon as a backup, both great metallic build. You also need to go the menu on the Custom Function section page 4 and turn "ON" where is says "Release shutter w/o lens". Yes, I'm a firm believer in downsampling to 1080, you get a lot of clean edit options. Even though mine has full frame 4k, I do use the crop mode in video as well as photos, with stunning results. Crops also add a nice non distracting visual element when focusing on a subject. At the moment, my favorite modes to record are 4k HQ and 4k 120.
If the lenses perform perfectly with the adaptor, I see no problem using the adaptor. I have a EF 85 1.2 and a RF 85 1.2 DS on my R6. Love both of them :-D
@@sydneynomura281 The RF version is technically superior in every way. The EF version provides a dreamy look (because it is softer at 1.2) and a more interesting lens flare :-)
My canon 135 F/2 L mounted on a 5D ii was almost unusable for kids portraits when they were moving. Now, mounted on a R5, I have 100% images with focus on eyes even when my kids are running everywhere. Just a dream to use.
I still have my Canon 135 f2, its such a lovely lens, and I used to use it on a 5d3, but this is lacking continuous autofocus and eye/face detection - so as you say it is a massive bonus when adapted to a Canon mirrorless, especially an R6 or R5 as their focusing system is fantastic.
Very nice, I'm wanting to upgrade to the R6 but was worried if the EF adapter would work well with my lenses. I'm not worried about how it looks 😅 as long as it works
Great to see some honesty and not someone sponsored. I have a similar collection of EF L lens and until the RF lens come down to a price that I don't need to sell a kidney I also will be be sticking with by dirty old EF lens. Like you I just board a second hand 35mm RF which is probably the only affordable RF lens.
Thanks Phillip, yes I don’t see any sponsorship anytime soon. There is a nifty 16mm f2.8 in the pipeline from Canon which is set to be very affordable. I am still holding onto my perfectly good EF glass and adapting them. That said, the adaptors are in such demand I heard Canon have even ran out of them!
This was actually very helpful. Im returning to photography after taking a break and am looking to buy a Canon EOS R5. I have a 5D Mark III that I want to keep as my back up but now dont have to worry about replacing glass.
No Problem. I recently got a loner from Canon of the R6 with a few of their lenses and one of the benefit of RF lenses over adapting is the burst rate of stills. A canon R5 might be 20 photos per second, but that is dependent upon the lens you mount to it. Some older lenses can’t achieve that because of their design. So if you are shooting action sports that is something to consider.
Great content Ben. Thanks! Canon read you right--the RF Lens product development & marketing strategy worked very well in having you seamlessly transition to RF lenses. The market was clearly left with options but for Pro use with sensitivity to ergonomics/design, it truly makes sense to get RF lens eventually for RF camera series.
My lenses are native RF with one exception: the EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS III USM. Thanks to eBay I got that lens with tax and shipping for about $1400, which is half the price of the RF before taxes and shipping. On a 20MP camera body the small difference in sharpness didn't feel worth double the price. Maybe one day I'll go RF for the portability, but for now I console myself knowing the EF one has internal zooming to keep it nice and sealed.
I have mainly moved across to native mirrorless lenses now, with the exception of a few EF lenses for architecture and landscape where autofocus is irrelevant. The optical quality remains the same, and something like the 20-700 f2.8 is mounted to the tripod via the lens anyway, so the adaptor become kind or irrelevant to the size of the overall setup. Canons RF lenses remain way too expensive, maybe one day they will open up their mount to sigma and Tamron etc.
Watching this in 2024. I just bought an r100 and an adapter so I can use all of my EF lenses on it. I have noticed that I'm getting really good performance out of these old lenses. I've only bought one RF lens so far.
It will depend on what DSLR you are coming from, but the newer mirrorless cameras have much better focusing capabilities and faster frame rates etc. If you want to compare EF and RF lenses though you need to compare like for like. Therefore your EF lenses adapted might out perform a new but clear RF lens. I have a Canon R8 and now I can use EF lenses to do in camera focus bracketing for macro, so there are benefits to having a newer body, with or without native lenses.
Thank you for the wonderful review. I’m also a long-time Canon user and enthusiast nature & wildlife photographer. I use EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM, EF 400mm f/5.6L USM and EF 200mm f/2.8L II USM lenses for wildlife shots. My eyes are also set on the amazing new EF 400mm f/2.8L IS III USM lens that is significantly lighter than version II and the lightest 400mm f/2.8 in the market. I always use my 2.8 tele lenses with 1.4x and 2x converters. Now, seriously contemplating procurement of an EOS R. Main objective is, sometimes I stack two converters with the 2.8 tele lenses and capture distant subjects focusing manually on 5DII and 7D. My assumption is; perhaps this stacked combo will AF on the EOS R! Basis for such assumption: it does AF with a touch in Live View on my dual-pixel body 70D. As the Live View is generated directly from the sensor; that stacked combo will also AF with EOS R in its EVF. What do you say? Thanks in advance.
Hi Quazi, thanks for your comment. As I understand it, you have a few long EF lenses and converters and would like to know what the focusing will be like on the EOS R. My only experience with telephoto on the EOS R are the 100-400 EF Mk 2 & the 70-200 f4. Both work perfectly. When/if I need a bit more reach then I put the 100-400 on my 80D therefore it becomes 600mm. Beyond this I have not used this combination with teleconverters. If you need a massive reach then you might be interested in Canons new RF telephoto primes, they are stuck at F11 though, but are lightweight and very sharp - I have used both of them. Being Canon, and compatibility, I am sure that the focusing performance of the adaptors on the EOS R will be equal if not better than a Canon DSLR in live view. But if you were trying to capture wildlife, then the EOS R is a bit slow an you would be much better off with the R6 or R5, they have superior focusing capabilities and shoot at a much higher burst rate.
I liked this video, thanks for that. Have you looked at the current Canon EOS R cameras available in 2023? If so, have you plans to do a video on that?
Hi Aaron, I have used/held all of the Canon mirrorless cameras that have been released by Canon - as I help Gordon Laing from Cameralabs.com with his camera and lens reviews from time to time. I noticed a significant boost in focusing capabilities when going from the EOS R and R5 to the R6, R5, R6mk2 etc. I am sure that there are people online doing focusing comparisons with EF lenses on an adaptor to a mirrorless body - however there are sooooo many Canon lenses and in reality I would not be able to get access to the EF version and RF version of a lens to make a comparison. If you want to know how a native lens performs, then check out Cameralabs channel. Gordon doesn’t review adapted lenses however.
There is a lot of talk w/canon for third party lenses. You can buy great canon EF lenses and adapt them at discounted prices. If you want Canon to invest in R&D for future products you need to support their glass also.
At present, Canon are not allowing any third party autofocus lenses, some companies that were making them have stopped production for fear of being legally pursued. I think this is a bad move, as options are good. I have been in the Canon system for a long time, and I had the choice to buy Canon and third party - but I still chose to buy Canon L-series lenses. But by taking that option away in the RF mount, Canon are well behind the competition and companies like Sony are a much more cost effective system to buy into, with options from Sony, Tamron, Sigma, Samyang……if I was starting afresh in a new mirrorless system I am afraid I would not choose Canon based upon lens options right now.
The adaptor looks fine, it is only a few lenses that really don’t look/work well adapted, the 50mm f1.2 was my example. Ironically the Canon lenses look better on a Sigma adaptor on a Sony mirrorless as they are all black, they look like they belong together.
Is it worth buying EF lenses today despite of coming of age of mirrorless generation? I still have a perfectly working 5D3 and invested to L prime lenses. Thanks for your advice!
Hi Mark, this is the question. I would say that it depends on what you shoot and how long you can/will resist the temptation to upgrade? I switched to mirrorless because at the time there were no full frame DSLR’s with a flip out screen that I could make my TH-cam videos with and shoot stills (with the exception of 6d mk2 which is meh). So I bought an eos r. I was perfectly happy with my 5d3, although I have to say that for shooting portraits mirrorless is much easier with face and eye detection. If you shoot landscapes then there is less reason to switch because you have live view things are a lot more calm and calculated. It’s probably a personal choice if you switch or not.
@@benharveyphotography thanks for your reply. Im more of a food photographer. I wanted to get the eos R6 but I dont have the budget 🤣 Now, I’m balancing the idea of needs and wants. I checked a lot of videos just like yours that EF lenses can be easily mounted to an eos R with an adopter at an ease. Plus that EF lenses can also be used to other non canon cameras like Sony and Red. But what do you think Ben? If its you, will you still buy the lens? Do you think it’s still worthy? Thanks
Hi Mark, the L series lenses are fantastic lenses. As long as you don’t buy them like you are making an investment - expecting to get your money back then fine. But they on the basis that you are going to keep them and they are a ‘bargain’ compared to the RF versions. I am keeping all my EF lenses.
@@benharveyphotography thanks Ben! Appreciate your replies! On your own experience using EF lenses with EOS R, is it almost the same like your using a native RF lenses? I know it’s not 100% the same but if the difference is just little and I can still get the quality of images and videos I need, I think I will keep using EF lenses. Aside that I don’t have the money. Haha
Hi Mark, I only have one RF lens - so I can’t really make a fair comparison. But I use my EF lenses on the R for portraits and landscapes, architecture and I have no complaints. If you are pixel peeping then the RF versions seem to be slightly sharper and you have the control ring to control ISO for example. You get more than just the same lens with a different mount.
Hi Michael, nothing fancy - I would have been shooting on my Canon 80D, in 1080. I think the image quality is down to the Sigma Art 16-35 f1.8 lens. It’s a heavy but lovely lens. Plus the Canon colours straight out of camera. My latest video was also shot using the same setup. th-cam.com/video/giNg0UvJr8E/w-d-xo.html
Good video - bit tired of the pressure to move to RF. I’ve got the R6 with the adapter and my images are fantastic. Only problem is every now and then the focus blurs, sometimes at a critical moment. It’s worse when I have the heavy lens on the camera. Any ideas?
Hello. Yes, I can relate - especially since I have spent years ‘building’ a collection of EF lenses for shooting many genres. I have t experiences any issues with my adaptor (I have the basic Canon one, not the ND or the control ring one). When you say blurs it is simply missing focus entirely or it’s not locking focus on what it says is in focus? I would run a few test if static objects with the camera on a tripod and see what is happening.
Sooo ... I love the look of the 50mm on the adapter :D maybe IRL I won't like it as much, but on screen it looks kinda interesting. The color mismatch is a bigger bummer.
Considering the cost of the RF lenses and how much the EF lenses have dropped in price I would definitely buy the adapter and use the EF lenses, especially the L, until the prices drop. If they don't then the EF lenses will be in more demand than the RF and the cost of the EF lenses will go back up. I recently bought three L lenses, EF 50mm f/1.2 L, EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L II and the EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L II for so much less on the used market than what they cost new and definitely lower than the RF lenses. The key is to find out when the and of service life is for the lens you're interested in then buy. If the service life is less than one year then pass and spend a little more on the Mk II or III so that you have access to Canon PS. I had an idea that the RF L lenses would to too expensive for my budget but with the adapter my wife has an RP and I have the R along with the 1Ds MkII and 5D MkII DSLR so we're booked solid. Additionally, the newer cameras won't function with 3rd party batteries. You will have to buy Canon batteries or your camera will be dead in the water. Personally I'd live to have all genuine Canon batteries but that's not possible because the ones I need are always out of stock or on backorder. So I buy 3rd party and I haven't looked back. Did you know that one of Canon's latest flash won't use AA batteries? Flashes have used AA batteries for decades and now that's another Canon battery you'll need or your flash won't work so buy a refurbished or preowned flash that can use AA batteries because they are very easy to find and way less expensive that genuine Canon batteries at $80 to over $100 each.
Just to put it out there, I am not advocating that anyone switch to mirrorless. Only if it makes sense for what you shoot I still use my Canon 5d mk3 with my EF glass because I prefer the way that those larger heavier lenses balance on a larger camera body. Another minor but relevant point is that I don’t switch off my DSLR. It just goes into standby and the batteries last a really long time. That way it is always ready to shoot. I switch off my mirrorless Canons to save the battery life all the time, even when I am just holding it. If however you shoot video, like I do, then mirrorless is an obvious choice due to reliable continuous autofocus to film yourself to make these videos.
Hi Dan, absolutely. The continuous autofocus on all of the canon mirrorless cameras work really well, including with adapted EF lenses. I used to have an 80D and for comparison the adapted EF lenses on my eos R is just as capable if not better.
It’s an interesting question because this does happen with an extension tube - however the distance between the back of the lens and the sensor is still the same, so I am very confident it is exactly the same amount of light coming in.
@@benharveyphotography Thanks for the reply. I am actually more concerned with the R5 with battery life. My understanding (from other sources and reviews) is that the R5 battery will last about 250 to 300 shots. If that is true, doing a wedding I'd have to change batteries about 5 times, where as with my Canon 5D4, I can do a whole wedding on one battery...(w/very rare exception I'd need to change the battery)...Thanks as always. Phil NYC Area
Hello. I have only played with the R5 pre-release, so I cant say that I have any experience of its battery life. I own an Canon EOS R, which will ‘suffer’ from the same battery use of the screen draining energy from it, however I have setup a shortcut for switching the screen to hibernate. I genuinely wouldn’t hold back from transitioning to mirrorless on the basis of battery though, they are very efficient, but I believe that burst Rate decreases as the battery life goes down, but I think that applied to DSLR’s also. I still have a 5d3 and a mirrorless camera and I use both, so I get the attachment to the DSLR, they feel reassuring robust in the hand when compared to mirrorless cameras.
@@benharveyphotography Thanks for the info and insight Ben. Appreciated. As soon as the wedding market and photography gigs pick up again, I will likely still buy an R5 at some point. I do really like my 5D4 and even still have my 5D3 for backup, so all will be good for sure. Have a good day and thanks. Phil NYC Area
Thanks for the clear explanations Ben. Glad to hear that I can use all my EF lenses this way I can probably afford the R6 Mark 2 for my next upgrade from the EOS 70D. By the way you talked about prime lenses, what about Canon zoom Lenses? Will it work as well?
I used to use my Cano 24-105 F4L and my Canon 16-35L on the adaptor and it worked just fine. Better autofocus due to the technology in 4th mirrorless cameras. The R6 my 2 focusing system (same as in the R8 that I have) is rapid. A massive step up from the Canon 70D
Thank you for subscribing. I rarely adapt EF lenses anymore, as I have pretty much transitions over to native mirrorless lenses, only using some EF lenses that have not been made for mirrorless yet (tilt shift lenses) or I simply cannot justify spending a few thousand pounds on the RF equivalent of a lens that I already own (100-400L for example). I am hoping that Canon will allow Sigma to start making lenses for their mirrorless cameras!
My budget is very low, I currently have a t5 (I bought like 8 years ago) and managed to buy around 5 lenses and would like to upgrade (is it really an upgrade I'm not sure) to an r100. Any recommendations? How terrible is the r100?
Hi, thanks for the comment. I haven't used a T5 (although I have used other cropped sensor Canon DSLRs). I think you should plan ahead and know what you intend on buying in the future. Your existing 5 lenses, are the EF lenses (designed for full frame) or EF-S lenses, and are they premium lenses (L-series) or cheap lenses that you shouldn't be too precious about. Like i said in this video many years ago, you will end up buying native RF lenses, and they have released many more affordable options since I released this video. Perhaps ask yourself why you are switching to mirrorless also, which features is your existing camera missing to jump to mirrorless? I have personally moved over to full frame only and sold my EF-S lenses. I own the original EOS R still and last year got the R8 which is a very small and lightweight full frame camera. I haven't used the R100 or any of the cropped sensor Canons however.
One point to my consideration would be the EF-RF drop-in Filter adapter. Either original Canon or the new one by Breakthrough. Saving money on lenses and CPL/ND filters sounds nice and also to use filters at all on certain wideangle lenses.
Hi Doninik, I have considered the drop in filter system but I found it very expensive considering that you have to buy a clear filter to slot in when you are not using a polariser or ND. I think the whole system came to about £400 or close. And since I shoot with more that one camera this seemed like a waste of money for me. I have opted to use magnetic filters (82mm) and use step up rings, but I am awaiting my Revoring that is a Kickstarter campaign that allow you use use one filter for various thread sizes. If you didn’t see my review, link below th-cam.com/video/KfmskxcADsY/w-d-xo.html
Thinking about making the jump from my 5diii to a mirrorless system without breaking the bank, i do more photo than video so an eos R makes more sense for me than an a7iii, do you lose continuous af when adapting an EF Lens, really dont wanna say goodbye to my 24-105 L series!
Hi. This is potentially a big question, which Canon Mirrorless you should get or whether you should switch to Sony…If you go to Canon then your existing Canon lenses will adapt seamlessly. But you will want to buy the RF 24-105 like I did eventually. If you adapt a canon EF lens to a sony, the Sigma MC-11 adaptor does an OK job, but its not as good as Canon to Canon. So it depends upon how many lenses you have at the moment whether you should jump ship or not because you will only adapt for so long. If you never owned a camera and were looking to get into a system, then the most cost effective and developed system is Sony, because of the lens line up. From Sony and all third party companies. However Canon aren’t currently allowed third party lens manufacturers to develop lenses for their cameras, so you are stuck with very expensive big heavy lenses if you go with Canon mirrorless. I still own my EOS R as it have a good amount of resolution for landscape photography and architecture. However its focusing system is very casual, it has a slow burst rate and has entry level video specs. So it depends what you need to do with it. I hope that this helps.
@@benharveyphotography for sure, just went out and recoded some evening street photography in my latest two videos and uploaded, really blown away by the quality 🤯😀 works amazing with my 24-70 2.8
how about softness. saw a video claiming pics with the R lenses are way sharper , need to confirm if optical quality decreases when using the EF lenses .
Hello. It obviously depends what lenses you are trying to compare. The R lenses are redesigned, it isn’t just the same glass with a new mount, I would expect them to be sharper and better than their EF equivalent. But if you put an EF lens in a Canon mirror less camera it won’t be any different to putting it on a DSLR in terms of optical performance. It is just air between the sensor and the back of the lens element.
generally, RF L lenses is an upgrade from EF, technology, optical glasses, etc etc. so they expected perform better than the Ef L lenses. i own 70-200 F2.8 RF and EF mount. the RF is very very good in term of image quality 10/10. sadly the price 1/10 lol...
Thank you very much for this vdeo !! I got a question though, is the focal lenght the same with the adapter ? Or will my 24 mm become a 32 mm or something ?
Hi Emilie, it depends whether the lens is an EF lens (full frame) or EF-s lens (cropped sensor). If you put a full frame lens on a full frame camera via the adaptor it will stay the same, therefore 24mm will stay 24mm. However if you put the 24mm EF-S lens on a Canon mirrorless the camera will automatically crop in and it will become a 36mm (24 x1.5 crop factor). I hope this makes sense. The adaptor is simply creating a space between the sensor and the back of the lens where the mirror used to be.
I think you just saved me heaps of stress and potential $ with this. I just ordered an open box and branded in my old dslr for the r6 mark II. My instructor told me to get the f2.8 but the Rmodel is waaay too $. Then I see that I can get the eF version used and get the adapter as you say and trade in my old lenses to bring down the cost more along with the free voucher I got and now I can see that I can have the f2.8 that really is what I should have.. there are two types of adapter is the one with the control ring and the regular. is the control ring one necessary? or can one get by with the regular?
Hi Janine, Thanks for leaving the comments and apologies for the delayed response, I have been on holiday. The adaptor with the control ring is not necessary if you are coming from a DSLR as you will not miss the feature that it is offering you. it essentially you can assign things such as ISO to the ring and control it with your left hand that is supporting the lens. If you buy RF lenses in future this control ring is on all of the RF lenses anyway. So I would recommend getting the normal adaptor. The R6 Mk 2 is a fantastic camera, you will be very happy with it. I have the R8, which shares the same sensor and focusing system as the R6 mk2, but sacrifices a few features that the R6 2 has.
You're right, the RF 35 looks great on the R. I myself am guilty of thinking the same.... it just looks off, having an EF lens on the R5. Not to mention that the total length of the combination is significantly larger. I tried my EF 70-200 on both the 5DIV and the R5.... and the R5 combination warped the eyepiece in my backpack/bag. Just wouldn't fit properly anymore. However, I do think some RF lenses are probably worth the money, but it's unconventional. For example, look at the RF 28-70 f/2. Seeing the optical quality (low distortion, sharp even wide open and in the corners) and the amount of light it let's in...it might be a replacement for several primes. I'd replace my 28mm f/1.8, 35mm f/1.4, 50mm f/1.4 and maybe 85mm f/1.4 with it, while replacing the 24-70mm f/2.8 as well in the process. It's all about your style of shooting however. I mostly shoot portraits, people, events ... and even in a controlled set I like the flexibility of a zoom. While in your landscape work it's probably no issue to change lenses at all unless the rain is pouring down. :)
I did an interesting experiment about a year and a half ago. I put my 24 year old Canon 135 f2 against Sony’s latest G master 135 f1.8. The Sony was so sharp it hurt! Wide open. But when I shared the images online (note that I got the images as close as possible because canon and Sony cameras + dynamic range are different) people couldn’t tell which one was new and which was from the mid 90’s! So most of the sharpness benefit comes when we appreciate the images on a good screen or a high quality print. If you never do that then we are not getting the most out of the equipment.
A very useful video for me Ben ;) I'm thinking about buying either the R5C or the R1 when it finally arrives. I've been using Canon 1Ds III for the last 10 years, and this camera has never let me down... and I mean - NEVER. Initially, when I bought it, I didn't have money left for lenses. And as I previously owned a 30D, I had EF-S lenses. I couldn't use them with 1Ds, so I bought a cheap 50mm 1.8, plastic fantastic lens. Although this lens was having big issues with focusing on my 30D, it worked amazingly well on 1Ds III for portraits. Later on, I started investing in the "L" series, thinking - they would serve me well. And they did, again, no issue with any of them. Now I've been learning video recording/editing for some time and would like to get a capable camera, with the capability of taking good quality pictures as well, as recording video. Was close to buying R5, but resigned after many negative opinions about overheating. I continued recording with my smartphone on a gimbal instead. Now is the time I consider investing in a new camera( and inevitably in a new gimbal for it ). But all these compatibility issues, adapters, and new RF standards just drive me crazy :) I think I'll wait for the R1 to go on sale( to know the price ), and make my decision between R5C and R1.
Hi Daniel, there is a lot to unpack there. I made this video many years ago when I was transitioning from DSLR to mirrorless and most of my lenses are now native lenses. The good news is that you have quite a few Canon mirrorless cameras to choose from. In terms of video specs most of them now shoot in 4K, some of them in slow motion. The R5 over heating was an issue primarily with shooting in 8k and slow motion where it is very demanding on processing power (downscaling high megapixel resolution to 4k for example). So depending upon your video needs, you might need a R5 or an R1. A reliable source of camera is my friend Gordon Laing at Camera Labs and he gets exclusive access to new Canon released.
I'll probably move to mirrorless next year and think about R6 or R7. I have some EF lenses I like very much, e.g. 100mm Macro IS, F2.8 and very old 300mm f4.0 IS and 200mm F2,8 II. I guess especially the latter ones could not cope with the high resolution of the R7, what do you think? I'm also slightly afraid there won't be a lot of high quality RFS-lenses as was the case with EFS-lenses which makes the R7 not so attractive in spite of very good specs.
Hi Martin, as you say the cropped sensor mirrorless cameras from Canon are new to the market and the glass is not there yet, but to adapt of invest in full frame glass from their RF line up - which is very expensive. I don’t know the answer to your question about the resolution capabilities of the older (but very good) EF lenses is, but I am sure someone on the internet has the answers for you.
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Liked you video and also the way you interact/give advice to everyone in the comments. New follower!
Hello Guido, it is not a test that I have ever done, as I would need to buy the same lens in EF and RF mount, which would not be a good use of money. I wouldn’t;t want to speculate, but take into consideration that the newer Canon mirrorless cameras have much better focusing capabilities that the original EOS R, and although I have used the R6 (Canon sent me a loaner) and the R5 when it was first released - ideally you find someone that has the Canon camera that you are considering with the lens on an adaptor that you are considering buying. Some lenses are fast at focusing, others are slow - you should get the answers for your specific combination.
I have a question that i can't seem to find the answer for. I just bought a Canon RP and the canon adapter, but my Sigma 18-200mm lens doesnt work with this camera, because it fits the adapter pretty well but the images have a black ring on the sides of the images taken with this lens, and the camera doesnt seem to be able to fix it because it says that there are no ''data'' for the lens. Does anybody know if i can make it work? or should i just sell it and buy only canon lenses? im very confused at this point.
Hi Jud, I can hopefully clear this up. I used to have a Sigma 18-35 f1.8 lens which was designed for cropped sensor cameras. If you put it on a Canon EOS R adaptor the camera didn’t recognise it as a cropped sensor lens and therefore let you see the whole image circle, which is the darkened edges of the image. This is essentially the inside of the lens that you are seeing because it was meant to go on a smaller sensor camera. It probably says ‘EF-S’ on the lens instead of EF, which is full frame. You have two choices if you are using a cropped sensor lens on a full frame camera, either zoom in until you go beyond the darkened corners, or you go into teh menus and engage the 1.6 crop that Canon will automatically apply if you were to use a Canon EF-S lens. I hope this helps!
Great video...... good to hear about the auto focus performance of EF lenses on R6/5. As for the colour difference (black v grey (or white / cream)..... it won’t bother me in the slightest. Thanks for the video.
Thanks Bernie, obviously I haven’t tried all of the lenses adapted on the R6 & R5, but I did use the 100mm 2.8L EF, and the 35 f1.8 RF and the 24-105 F4 RF and they were all amazing due to the new focusing system on the R5 & R6. I know the colour difference is a first world problem, that I can deal with, but some of the lenses just don’t sit right on a much smaller body do they?
Thanks Ben, I'm considering the EOS R, to use in conjunction with my collection EF Lens, & EF-S lens. My I ask what Adapter do you use for on your EOS R to EF Lens? I'm not a Professional, but have found the EF Primes lens are "GO ENOUGH", for me. Appreciate your assistance. THANKS
Hello. I am using the standard Canon RF to EF adaptor. There is no doubt that EF lenses and some EF-S lenses have great optical quality, I made this video for those that are curious about how they work when adapted. I personally wound’s use EF-s lenses on the EOS R as it will crop in to use only the centre of the sensor and therefore you will see a reduction in resolution and quality, but otherwise no one will tell the difference whether you are using a native lens or adapted when they look at your content.
Recently I'm buying EOS RP shifting from APSC to FULL FRAME and I'm stuck in buying RF 24-105 f4-7.1 STM or EF 24-70 f2.8 USM, I've CANON EF-RF ADAPTOR...plz help me I'm doing wedding photography videography and Landscape too...
Hello, it all depends on your budget really what is the best tool for the job. Many wedding shooters that I follow stick to using primes, I shoot most of my portraits using primes, 35, 50, 85 & 135mm. I have the 24-105 f4-7.1 and although it has stabilisation I don’t like using it for video due to the floating aperture as you zoom in. I would opt for the F4 version if I was shooting video (which will set you back around £1000). The EF24-70 f2.8 on an adaptor and on a small body like the RP is going to be a very front heavy setup. I am not sure if you are using the one camera to shoot stills and video, which if you are again I would avoid using the variable aperture 24-105 as f7.1 at the long end is not going to achieve very soft backgrounds. I hope that this helps?
Nice video BUT I am sure from you are from UK did you know butterfly knives are in fact illegal to own in UK so in wouldn't be flashing one around on a video.. Just a heads up.
Thank you for making the video. But I have one question. I wanted to ask whether I'll be able to use my Sigma 150-600(canon mount) on a RF body? Thanks in advance!
Hello, if your Sigma is an EF mount then sure, you will be able to use it with the canon EF-RF adaptor on your RF body. I assume that the sigma is full frame, but Canon have now released cropped sensor mirrorless cameras.
I'm about to upgrade from my 90D to an R6 Mark II, and I was thinking weither I keep the Sigma 24-105 F4 that I own or replace it with an RF 24-105 F4. Thanks for the useful information.
Hello. It depends on a few things. If that is the only EF lens that you own then just get the Canon RF version and that will save you buying the adaptor and having to adapt. The RF version has image stabilisation, I am not sure if the Sigma does? The R6 mk2 focusing system will probably out perform older lens and you therefore might not be getting the best performance out of your new camera. I made this video a few years ago and hardly ever adapt anymore, as I predicted I have slowly moved over the native glass. Depending upon what you shoot, I made a review of the EF 24-205, the RF 24-105 f4 and the RF 24-105 with variable aperture and the RF 24-105 was a bit of a disappointment for the money. Since that video I have actually sold the F4 version and use the much much light and smaller variable aperture version for shooting landscapes as it is just as sharp amazingly. Link below. th-cam.com/video/ySzMkQ0Sjik/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2wc4NXcQohFHRK29
Thanks for all the valuable information. I appreciate the response to my question in such detail. I think I will start collecting RF lenses and will start with the 15-35 F2.8 for landscape photography the thing that I like the most, thanks again.
I am looking at the new R5MKII but cant imagine my 70-200 F2.8 with a 2x extender on the adaptor with the R5 body!! Dilema?? Having said that I wouldnt want to replace it with the RF version either at nearly £3k
Without knowing which DSLR body you are going from and what you shoot, it is difficult to comment on whether you are going to achieve the results and performance on a brand new mirrorless camera with adapted lenses. Ok the basis that you are extending I am going to assume you are shooting wildlife or something that needs more reach. Honestly if you are going mirrorless then get a native Canon lens like the 100-500 and buy the R5 mark 1 if you need to save some money. The upgrades on the r5 and minimal compared to the mark 1. If you need a long lens that doesn’t have a fast aperture they make a 600 and 800 f11.
One extra comment. Having a relatively compact mirrorless camera with an adaptor, then an extender, then an EF lens is going to result in a very long, front heavy, unbalanced and odd looking setup that I personally wouldn’t enjoy using (I recently used a mirrorless camera with an adapter and extension tubes with the 100-400 L lens and although optically it was great it was not a pleasurable experience. So before you pounce on buying the R5ii have a think about what you intend on shooting with it and what the best tools for the job might be.
Interesting video and good to know these EF lenses work even better on the RF cameras. I just purchased a Canon R3 and the RF 70-200 f/2.8. I have two 1DX Mk3 bodies, 16-35 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8, EF 70-200 f2.8, 300 f2.8, 50 f1.2 and 85 f1.2. I'm likely going to sell both 1DX Mk3s, EF 70-200 2.8 and 300 f2.8 which I can say is never used as too long for what I shoot. The 70-200 is my go to and the weight saving in new camera and lens is worth it. However, having the ability to re-use the other lenses which are only used occasionally makes the switch less of a financial burden - RF glass ain't cheap. The long awaited R1 just didn't seem worth the extra (or on hindsight the wait) to me.
5:50 Technically, the shorter the flange distance, the more mounts the camera system can take. The case with Canon is that the adapting performance with their own lenses doesn't drop.
Thank you, you are right. It is interesting now that Canon have released a cropped sensor mirrorless camera that the APS-C lenses still use the same mount but the first two lenses release step in from the mount diameter. It doesn’t quite look right.
Been toying with the idea to jump to mirrorless from my 5D iv but not decided best option yet. Weight of gear is something that is a factor too so probably need to look into all the options including moving away from Canon but been a Canon user for years so not an easy decision
Hey Jim, send me a PM if you have any questions. I have an EOS R, and a Sony A7iii (its a bit unusual for someone to be using two camera brands! I also get to try out a lot of new cameras via my friend Gordon at Cameralabs. No better way than to try before you buy! The 5dMk4 is amazing based upon my EOS having the same inners, although I jumped from a 5d3 to the EOS R. There probably is no real reason to upgrade except for the knowledge that Canon are unfortunately no longer developing EF lenses. Which I feel a bit sad about, because I have invested in a lot of EF lenses. But there is genuinely nothing wrong with a high end DSLR and L-series lenses from a few years ago. I still use a Canon 135 f2 and that is 24 years old now. An amazing lens!!!
Hi Shoeb, I have not used an adaptor with any cropped sensor Canon mirrorless cameras (they were not released when I made this video), so I can’t really comment on this. I am sure there are others that have tested this though.
Hi, Ben I just recently subscribed to your YT blog so please excuse if my ?s are naive. OK so I'm just about to take a long Euro River cruise from Amsterdam to Budapest and I'm thinking of upgrading my 2007 Canon Xsi 12 MP to the new Canon RP(don't really see much advantage to the R for my enthusiast level of photog. You seemed to be impressed with the performance of the older EF lenses with the Canon Mirrorless and said that they were now "turbo" in comparison to the older APS_C bodies focus capability. I have 3 EF lenses (orig. kit 18 - 55, a 75-300 EF, and my 28 - 135 that I bought from a pro photographer who bought 3 Canon 60D bodies and straight away sold the three 28-135s. I had read at the time (2009) that this may have been the sharpest kit zoom that Canon had packed with any of their PRO bodies and it has been my std walk-around lens since I purchased it. My question is do you advise against this and if so, why? I should tell you that I prpobably waited too long and my trip is getting close and I will not have much time to acclimate to the new set-up but most of my travel photos tend to be "auto mode shots any-way. Your thoughts?
Hi Stanford, thanks for your message. It is difficult to answer your question, as I am not sure exactly what you tend to photograph, however you have given a broad description of travel - I will work with that. The RP is certainly light and compact, which you will appreciate. I just looked up the lenses that you have and they are all sub-£200, which means that in the grand scheme of things you are not heavily vested in a system. When I made this video I have something like 6 or 7 L-series lenses, so it makes sense to stay with Canon. If you jump to a full frame mirrorless Canon then you will be able to use the two longer lenses that you mention, but the 18-55 is designed for a cropped sensor camera and you will not benefit from using it on a full frame camera. I think you will also struggle in low light situations when you travel, since the lenses that you have are variable apertures. Ignore this comment if you don't shoot low light. If you are going to spend just shy of £1000 on a new camera and put some very old lenses on it then you will not benefit from the advanced tech in the mirrorless system. My advice is that when you switch to mirrorless then dive in the deep end, pick a system that suits your needs. Explore Sony and Fuji also, you have the choice to start again now - Canon mirrorless system is very expensive when it comes to lenses. I hope that this helps and enjoy your travels! Ben
Hi Michael, if I were starting again I would only buy native lenses. Since making this video I also got the Canon 50mm f1.8, which is a great affordable lens - but I do tend to shoot a lot with primes. Although EF lenses will work just fine on the mirror less bodies, the adaptor does add a few centimetres onto the set up. You will also get extra features on the lens itself depending upon which one you get The 35mm for example has a control ring which I use to change the ISO, which comes in handy when you don’t want to take your eye from the viewfinder.
Hello Ben, I wonder can you answer this question for me. When doing my landscape photography I would always ensure that I was lined up with the affinity marker to assist my depth of field. But these new Canon RF lenses have no marker. How do approach this situation now ???
Hi Allan, when I am using my EOS R for landscapes, I switch my lens to manual focus, which will enable two things, focus peaking and Canon have a new focusing guide with two green arrows. When your focus point is out of focus the green arrows are further apart. You twist the focus ring until the green arrows sit on top of one another and then you have sharp focus. I find it to be very reliable. It only becomes complicated it you enable touch screen to take the photograph, which you will then have to disable to select your focus points. I hope this answers your question.
Great video Ben thank you! I’m about to buy my first full frame mirrorless camera and am deciding between a7Riii and EOS R (not sure which EOS R yet). It seems you own cameras in both systems. For landscape and creative fine art stills which do you recommend? I’m looking to buy used and buy into a system with relatively affordable and plentiful second hand lens options. Leaning towards Sony for dynamic range and low light but have always loved canon. Thoughts?
Hi Tyler, yes I am currently shooting with a Sony A7iii and the Canon Eos R. The Sony’s are technically more capable for landscapes, as they have more dynamic range, and a lot more lenses than Canon...for now. But you can adapt canon EF lenses onto the Sony and the Eos R, but a slight compromise on a few things as a highlighted in this video. The EoS R has 30MP, which is plenty for me. To get higher resolution in the Canon mirrorless system then you have the R5. That’s it. The canon is a nicer user experience but it does many things ‘well’. Depending if you shoot portraits under the banner of fine art, the the Eos R is slow. It only shoots a few frames a second and has no ibis. That is the only weakness I would say. The Sony on the other hand is much faster and wins for portraits and general speed of focusing capabilities. The -R5 and R6 however are better than the Sony for focusing and speed. I have never used the A7r3, but Sony’s are generally the same form factor and menus. They are a bit of a nightmare. They are also too small to fit in the hand, so I have a small rig l bracket to make it fit in my hands. I would suggest that you use/borrow a Sony and if it is a miserable experience then get the Canon. If you get on with the menus then Sony might be right for you. This is on the basis that you do not intend on using the cameras for filming yourself as you will need a Canon for that! Long answer. Sorry!
For what it’s worth Tyler, I bought the a7c because it seemed so perfect. It’s the a7iii but with a flip out screen and the same new colour science as the a7siii. I returned it less than a day later. I probably should have gave it longer usage, but I hated using it immediately. So do what he’s saying, try, borrow, rent, do what you have to do to get the camera you’re thinking about getting into your hands first, before deciding on which system you’ll invest in.
@@mikebanks4796 thanks for echoing my comments. I have held the a7C and it was again quite small in the hand - but it is what I wanted the a7iii to be when I bought that two years ago. I hope that you got all your money back and found something that works for you!?!
@@benharveyphotography I wanted to love the a7c because it’s specs are great, but I just hated using it. I did a couple test videos with it and the workflow was very annoying. Appreciate the concern and yeah, I returned it with no restocking fees. 🙂 Some will call me crazy but I grabbed the EOS R instead. I was able to get the R with the RF 24-105 f/4 brand new with some negotiating for $2,600 CAD ($2,035 USD) so it was an absolute no brainer.
@@mikebanks4796 I use the EOS R for most of my photograph and filming most of my TH-cam videos and it’s awesome. As long as you don’t need wide angle 4K (because of the crop it applies) then it’s a great all rounder.
Hello, came across your video in my search for a new camera. I have been using my moms Rebel T6 and my friend gave me all of his EF glass. I’ve been considering getting the EOS R or the R6. I mainly take product photos and landscapes, probably won’t shoot any video. My main problem is that the Rebel will not auto focus sometimes or it will hunt for a long time when I use the 100mm macro. Will the EOS R work any better? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you!
Hello Hank. The rebel t6 (known as 1300d here) is an entry level camera - so the Eos R will out perform it without a doubt. The EOS R has the inners of a 5d mk4 which is a pro DSLR. It is perfect for landscapes and product photography, you get the resolution and image quality. Where the EOS R falls down is fast shooting speed and the advanced autofocus system of the R6 and R5. I have used them all and I was using my EOS R just yesterday with an adapted EF 135mm lens. The autofocus is fine for what you need, providing you are not shooting fast moving objects. The 100mm macro has such a focus range that it will hunt. If it is the L-version you might want to flip the switch in the side of the lens to limit the focus range and therefore hunt less. The R6 has a much better focusing system but you lose resolution. Take into account the approx £100 you have to pay for the Canon EF to Rf adaptor when looking at costs.
At the comment about RF lenses not having any bright lenses - it's simply physics, you cannot cheat that. You can remove the mirror and make battery smaller and thus make body smaller. You can make the mount smaller, as the light can be pointed to almost a single point there. But (aside of ridiculously expensive telephoto shenanigans) the lens has to be at least as long as its focal length (minus flange distance, of course) and as wide as its focal length divided by its top light performance (at the front glass element). So if you have 50mm f/1.2, it has to be at least roughly 50 mm long and 42 mm wide at top - and yes, for higher performance lenses this can look ridiculous on mirrorless, purely because they are tiny. Just imagine 85mm f/1.4, measuring ~61 mm at the front, stuck to a mirrorless. I imagine this is something we have to get used to in the end as mirrorless will prevail. After all, we got used to it going from big boxy cameras to tiny (in comparison) DSLRs and compacts.
I have refrained from getting the adaptor with the filters for the reason that you also have to buy the clear filter for when the ND filters are not in use, and it actually equates to a few hundred quid, which is more than an 82mm high quality ND filter. I now tend to use magnetic ND filters or where I need a variable ND I use the H&Y Revoring to adapt my 82mm VND to any of my lens sizes (but this is a kick-starter and only available for pre-order at the moment).
Can I use my Sigma Ef lenses with an adapter? I’m in need of a new camera and thinking of switching to mirrored, but I’m not interested in investing in new lenses right now and I love my Sigma Art!
I am going to buy an RF lens one day… just let me get this one last EF L lens before I change…. Three years after this clip, I still buy used EF L’s for my R7 and R6ii
I was curious to find out whether or not EF lenses will be improved on all Rf bodies or just the R5/6 so thanks for answering that one, the colour thing although not the most elegant composition to grace the world wont bother me, its the performance Im after,. Incidentally I use MPB from time to time, lenses i haven't had any issues with, but they did sell me a body that turned out to have a control wheel issue with so a little disappointed on that front,
Sorry to hear that you had an issue with MPB. You are the first person that I have heard of with an issue. Hopefully they fixed the problem as they come with a warranty... As for the mirrorless experience and EF lenses, you will be happy with the experience when comparing it to a DSLR.
@@benharveyphotography tell the truth I only found out what the issue was when I came to trade in, it wasn't a permanent fault it usually didn't change the shutter speed first time when it happened then if you have it a firm push it would change, didn't really cause an issue back then as I wasn't using it very regularly, it did get worse and I was doing more weddings which is the reason why I wanted to trade up and by that time warranty was gone anyway, I'm not questioning their service as it more than likely slipped through the net, but I am just a tiny bit wary now of how rigourous their system checks are,
Hey. The lens will remain as a 50mm. The adaptor takes up the same space between the back of the lens and the mirror in a DSLR. It is simply creating a space between the EF lens and the mirrorless camera.
Watching this in October 2024, EF L lens all the way, more choice between mark one / two and three versions for budget and quality, EF-L lens still offer excellent quality for what you pay for. 🥳
The EF lenses didn’t rely upon in camera corrections like the new lenses do, but when you put them side by side with the new versions the newer are sharper and add new features such as better image stabilisation and are smaller and lighter in some instances (70-200 for example). BUT you pay for these improvements. Canon lenses are still ridiculously expensive, years after making this video and they are not allowing third party lens manufacturers to help us out. Sigma Art lenses on Canon RF would be much appreciated.
Hi Ben Harvey Does the canon lens mount adapter affect af accuracy and also af speed and also eye af and also af tracking on canon full frame mirrorless camera If put with ef lenses
Hi James. I have come from a Canon 5d3 and stepped up to the EOS R, which is essentially a mirrorless version of the 5d4. But I also own a Canon 80D which has dual pixel autofocus as a benchmark. I use the EOS R with many EF lenses, the eye tracking works very well, the focusing speed is equal if not better on the mirrorless camera (but still very much dictated by the lens motors. I also use my EOS R to film most of my TH-cam videos and the tracking on it is outstanding. All of this is based upon the EOS R. On the R5 and R6 the focusing capabilities are massively improved with EF lenses. I hope this answers your question!
I waited for canon to come out with mirrorless for years and the thanks I got was huge expensive RF glass.....it is good to know the ef glass works. but, not going to lie, there will always be a bitter sting in the thought that to replace my $1800 24-70L with the Rf version will cost $2400.
It’s painful isn’t it. There are of course improvements with the RF lenses. I haven’t used them all but you get the control ring and I am told better sharpness, but I was pretty happy with the quality of my EF lenses - I wasn’t looking to upgrade! I think I will drag out any upgrades over a few years or wait until Sigma start making art lenses in the RF mount.
My question is, I have the RP and adapting a Sigma DG full frame lens. While doing this you get vignette obviously. When I go into the 1.6x crop mode does this still use the full sensor or does this crop the sensor down to around an 11 megapixel image?
Hi Jason, since the RP is full frame I am not sure why you would get vignetting, as the sigma is a full frame lens and the adaptor simply recreates the distance between the mirror and the sensor on a DSLR? That aside when you crop in it is use the centre part of the sensor - which will reduce the resolution for photos (not the case for video as there is still enough pixels in the middle of the sensor for 4K on most cameras). I hope this makes sense.
I could never use my EOS R without the battery grip as the camera isn't balanced - with the grip the adaptor isn't an issue, + I use the daptor with the variable ND & polarizer which I couldn't use with my TS-E 17 as I shoot architecture - Will be upgrading to the R5 as soon as cash allows - I am a pro of 22 years. going from EOS 1Ds, 5D, 6Dmk2 then the EOS R - The mirrorless is a game changer and would never go back to DSLR!
Great video! Thank you! I have been using a Canon R6 with EF lenses, using the adapter. I have found that this combination creates very small file sizes. The file sizes are smaller than what my old Canon 60D produces. Have you run into this?
Hi Hannah, this is an interesting question which I am confident that the adaptor has no influence upon the file sizes, unless you are using EF-S (lenses meant for cropped sensor Canons) whereby the camera will automatically crop in and the R6 will be down to 12.5 megapixels as it would be 1.6x cropped in. If you are using EF lenses, and they are full frame, then its something else on your R6 that is causing it. Perhaps go into the menu and check that you shooting in RAW or High quality and it should say 20MP or similar. I hope this helps.
@@benharveyphotography Oooh! Thank you so much. That totally answers my question. I completely overlooked the fact that it was happening when I was using an EF-S lens. It doesn't happen with my full frame EF lenses. Thanks again for mentioning that....so helpful!!
Hi Andrew, I am using the Canon standard adaptor. They do three versions, the standard, an alternative which has a control ring on it (which you can customise to control aperture or ISO for example, and a third option which allows you to slot in filters before the lens. The standard one was the only one available at the time of my purchase. I might consider the version with the control ring however the version that takes fingers is a very expensive way of using filters and you need a clear filter Inserted where you aren’t using other filters and they are all quite expensive.
Could you confirm if the images will be cropped when using ef lenses such as the canon 17-40mm f/4 L on canon mirrorless cameras or is it just the case with ef-s lenses?
Hello. EF lenses are not cropped at all. They function as they do on a DSLR (unless you enable digital stabilisation which has a minor crop). It is only EF-S lenses that will automatically crop in by 1.6 times, otherwise you would end up with a massive solid black vignette in all of the images.
How do you like the RF 35mm? I'm kind of the same, that's why I'm here, and I can live with the EF lenses not matching and as a bonus, putting them in an R5/6 is a significant upgrade and, an added bonus us there are some great EF bargains to be had [MPB fan here too] RF glass have to pay for all its R&D, I think it will be some time before most of the RF L's are anywhere near a sensible price... Of course, the goal is to move over to RF glass eventually, it's a long time since I've bought a new lens, used is the way to go, it just requires some patients!
Hi Simon. I really like the 35mm. I am a big fan of primes really. Since making this video I have expanded my RF lenses, but I have been pretty sensible as they are very expensive. I have the 35mm, the 50mm 1.8 and I just purchased the RF16mm. I got my hands on a pre-production model of that a month ago (review on my Channel coming out next week). And finally I got what I considered a reasonably priced all-rounder, the 24-105 F4. And interesting what you mention about the R&D for all the new lenses, I compared this to my EF 24-105 and there is no difference at all in optical quality! The 35mm is stabilised, so that is a benefit, and it is a really nice size, well balanced on the camera. It is slow at focusing though, perhaps because it is a macro lens and has such a range. The focusing is silent, but I wouldn’t use it for fast moving subjects. A long answer, but I am slowly Moving over to RF with some sensible purchases. I have kept all of my EF lenses though, as they work perfectly on my DSlR and when adapted onto my mirrorless camera. But I am adapting a lot less nowadays. Ben.
I really have to work at refraining from long replies... I think most of us would have an all prime set up in an ideal world, I tend to have a zoom/prime sandwich, something like 16-35mm, 50mm, 85mm, 100mm macro and 135mm, with a superzoom on the long end, so a huge focal range that I could not get without a second mortgage, but there are compromises, of course, mostly on the long end with smaller apertures. I could be tempted to add the 35mm prime, I don't know why they call it a macro, it technically isn't, nor is the RF 85mm macro [which also looks interesting], but still, it possibly has a flatter field optic like macro lenses do, which generally offers sharper edges and possibly slower focusing. I have the 85mm f1.4L IS, and aside from the RF 85mm macro is, I think is the only 85mm with IS, the new RF 85mm f1.2 lenses aside, is possibly the best 85mm on offer and I'd be reluctant to trade it in. Canon has clearly invested a lot of time, money, and resources in the new RF lenses and R system and that of course will keep prices high for the foreseeable future [as well as global component shortages], strangley enough, though, the EF 24-105mm f4 L II and it's RF counterpart have identical retail prices, which cannot really be said of any other RF lens, maybe they feel that they need a quality and somewhat affordable standard zoom in the range and have cut there margins on that particular lens [or just changed the mount and body] From what I've seen said of the 16mm, I don't think I would be happy with it, I may even theorise that it is meant more for an upcoming APS-C R body, as it doesn't seem so good on the 35mm sensor. I shoot a lot at night, so the difference in the lens body colour won't even be noticeable, but as good as the adapter is, you can't beat a native mount. Just out of interest, I bought a few adapters and keep them on my most used lenses to limit the hassle of swapping between adapted EF and RF mount lenses. Rumour has it that there is an RF 135mm f1.4 L in the works, but I bet that will have an eye watering pricetag!
Hi Simon, there is a lot of corrective compensation going on with the RF16mm, I show that in my video that will be out 16th Nov at 4pm. The camera conceals this with the jpegs and video - but the raw file reveals a lot of manipulation of the pixels to correct distortion etc. My friend Gordon Laing at canerlabs’s video will be out on the lens this afternoon also.
Thanks, yeah, I watch some of Gordon Laing's stuff, well, in truth I just cherry-pick content that's relevant to my current interests, I had a 24-105 [first edition] and sold it as part of my move to the "prime sandwich" and the jury is still out as to whether I will get another, although the MK II and RF versions seem to have dealt with some of the issues the MK 1 had, I think it is a great walkaround range though, so I may get one if I see decent used one at a more palatable price, lens choice is almost always a compromise, zoom is convenient but you can lose quality and prime usually has the quality but you lose the convenience. I shoot raw and I'm always a bit suspicious of wide lenses with such a tiny front element, I think the 16mm is probably a no for me, I think I'd be disappointed with it, but I'm sure there are people that it would suit very well.
Hello. Yes the Stabilisation on the lenses work just the same as they do on a DSLR, with the added benefit that the Eos R has sensor digital stabilisation also. I have tested the 24-105, 70-200, 100mm macro and 100-400 EF lenses on the Eos R and the stabilisation works just fine. The same as they would on a DSLR.
Hi Vincent, I have only tried it with a Sigma lens and that worked. Providing that it’s an EF or EF-S mount it will work but I don’t know about performance.
I’m on the same boat as you. I own several of the EF L series lenses. I was thinking 🤔... now what... should I sell them all to replace them with RF ones... What pain in a butt 😂 Well I’m glad I didn’t as they still classy, beautiful glass. They might become vintage one day who knows like a Rolleiflex. Yes, ascetically the camera might look like a Frankenstein with all the different pieces but the photos speak for themselves not the tools. Great video. All the best 🙂
100% agree. I point out the aesthetics of using EF lenses on a newer camera because it will really big some people. I would also expect EF lenses to start dropping in price - but right now I don’t see any of them being a bargain?!? I still have all of my EF glass and it works great on the EOS R. Too painful on the wallet to do a complete switch to RF lens line up.
Yes, you’re right - too expensive to replace them all and you can’t keep up with technology sometimes as there will be always something better on the horizon. I remembered buying brand new EF L 70-200mm 2.8 IS USM mk1 a while ago. After 2 months of owning it Canon released improved mk2 version. I got so hyped about new image charts that I sold my Mk1 version and lost money really (because was already considered second hand), yet I had to save up for the new one as it was ridiculously expensive. Was that really worth it... perhaps for the image quality but not for my wallet 😂. I might buy 1 or 2 RF L lens in the near future but for now I’m happy with what I got.
I have the RF 35mm f1.8 and the 50mm 1.8 RF. They are relatively ‘cheap’ and feel well balanced on the EOS R. I don’t feel the need right now to replace all of my other L series lenses for a minor improvement upon image quality.
so if i had an ef 70-200 mark iii and put it on say an r6 or r1, with an adapter. Would it be wider than it would be on my 90d? since on my 90d its equal to like a 110-260 mm, and an rf 70-200 would be wider. Also does it effect light transmission or aperture?
Hi Adam, yes it would be wider if you mount it on a full frame camera, whether native DSLR or via an adaptor on a mirrorless camera. If you are shooting wildlife then there is benefit in using a cropped camera, otherwise you will get the most out of any EF lens by putting it on a full frame camera. I don’t think it would have any influence upon light transmission, because the adaptor doesn’t have any glass in it, it’s just a while to create the same distance for a mirrorless camera that the mirror used to occupy. You will see a difference in aperture if you use a converter (1.4 or 2x for example) as this loses you light. The aperture on the lens stays the same whether it is on a full frame or cropped camera, however the depth of field would be greater on a full frame camera. That part is complicated.
@@benharveyphotography awesome, I appreciate it. I’m investing in an ef 70-200 and once I transition to mirrorless, I’ll adapt to my rf mount. I feel as though for shooting sports indoors, 70-200 on an aps-c can be difficult
Making it possible to use EF lenses on a RF body is a boon for Canon customers. I'm almost 100% RF (still missing a 300mm f/2.8 and a 35L II equivalent) and have no regrets. But it is expensive and not for everyone. Meanwhile the R6 and R5 bring huge improvements for Canon shooters due to the combination of IBIS, eye AF and better sensors. Good time to be a Canon shooter.
I wish they did make all of my lenses in the RF mount, and I could justify the extra cost. I appreciate the innovation of the smaller 70-200 and the ability to control other functions on the lens with the control ring - but I struggle to justify replacing lenses that I am already very happy with.
Hi Bill, in theory yes as all of the fixing types are in the correct order, but I have never done it to say whether it will perform well. The adaptors are going to make the setup quite long and front heavy also. Depends what you are looking to achieve, but I have used and reviewed the RF 24-105 (both versions) and compared it to the EF version on an adaptor and I would choose the RF version every time. The cheapest 24-105 with variable aperture is actually my choice out of those three, very light and has optical stabilisation.
Hi Jaruka - I have the standard Canon EF to RF adaptor. When I say standard, I mean the one without the built in NDs or the control ring. But they are apparently very hard to get hold of right now.
Ben, this is exactly the review that I was looking for. My question to myself was will my old EX glass work well on the r6 or r5 with the control ring? I'm talking about and quick focus. I use mainly a 50 1.2, 16-35mm and a 100mm macro. (also a 100-200 2.5 version 2, which I hardly ever use).
Hello! Glad you liked the video. By control ring I assume that you mean the EF to Rf adaptor with has the additional ring on it? I have tried that one unfortunately but I did use my 100mm L macro on the R6 and the focusing was much quicker than I had previously experienced. Whichever camera you are coming from (except a 1dx3) then you will see an improvement in focusing on the R6 and R5. It’s all going in the right direction!
@@hom296 that’s the camera that I came from. Depending upon which mirrorless camera you go with, the only thing that the EOS R was lacking from the 5d3 was the speed (frame rate). It’s definitely not for sports and it sometimes struggles to keep up with my kids running around. The R5 end R6 will handle whatever you throw at them. They have very high frame rates and the focusing system of the 1dx - so for stills they are very impressive. I haven’t yet decided if I will upgrade....
I’m a Nikon Z6 shooter and have a similar problem. The new Z mount lens look amazing but are way too expensive. But on the flip side it’s a great time to buy used F mount lens
Hi Ben - fantastic video, just what I was after - some reassurance before I bit the bullet and bagged an R6! By the way, got a great laugh out of your OCD comment, great to know I am not alone there haha!!! Seriously though thanks a million and I hope you get great joy from your RF 35mm!
Two years later... RF lenses aren't getting cheaper and Canon is blocking third-party lenses. EF lenses doing FINE.
a year later .. same story
Is the EF lens less compatible in autofocus for street photography as compared to the RF or the EF works good?
@@anonymous-wh8szall good rf IS 10% or so better Over all except build quality but 5x more expensive
@@Tzunami07 which gear are you using?
Canon really takes us for pigeons. (RF = Real Fuck)
No one care about looks it is all about quality
I was just about to say the same thing, and for most of what he was saying they perform better so who cares about the looks.
Hi Craig, I made this video years ago and there have been lots of responses about the aesthetics and I still stand by what I said many years later. But it is not just a shallow comment about the colour, it is also about the balance of the camera. If you have a Canon mirrorless camera (which is generally small - I still have the EOS R and now a Canon R8 which is even smaller), putting an adaptor and even a medium size EF lens (say a 24-105 f4) make it a very unbalanced set up that you may want to consider if it is a pleasurable experience shooting with. Although Canon charge way too much in my opinion for their new lenses, they are making them smaller and lighter to match the reduced size and weight of the camera bodies. All of the camera brands are. So just consider the balance of the balance of the camera and lens when you are adapting. Adapting EF lenses is an intermediate step between building up a native mirrorless lens collection, the RF lenses will get you eventually!
@@benharveyphotography Hi Ben, i understand what you are saying i have a little OCD myself but there was no mention of the balance in the video a good majority of it was just about it not looking good, the rest of the video was very good and informative about how lens preform better etc.
Just a bit to much about the looks for me ......Sorry 😒😒😒
@craigyboy542 no problem. It was a long time ago as I said but I can take criticism where it is due. I haven’t deleted your comment, you should be able to see it on here unless YT has filtered it for some reason.
Thanks for the mention! Yes, it's great for adapted lenses to enjoy a new lease of life with better autofocus across a broader area, better face and eye detection and the possibility of IBIS on some models. As you know, I've been gradually testing all the new RF lenses and where possible comparing them against the old EF versions and yes, the new ones are expensive and in some cases large too. But in almost every case, the RF version does something different or better, like a broader zoom range, IS when it wasn't available on the EF model, smaller barrel, lighter barrel etc etc. I've also found in side-by-side tests that while the adapted EF lenses focus quickly, they're not normally as quick or as consistent as the native RF ones - you'll see that especially in my 70-200 and 100-500 reviews. In all cases so far, the RF model has been better overall in my opinion BUT they are pricier AND they also face the fact the latest EF versions were often already very good to start with.
Thanks Gordon. I am glad to see that Canon are productively increasing the performance of EF lenses, whilst subliminally tempting us all over to the RF lens line up. The RF lenses are great, the ones that I have used. I think I have done well to resist them for a year!
@@benharveyphotography well the problem is while they are better for a new buyer, if you already own the EF versions, they're also still very good. Also remember that adapting gives you the chance to use adapters with extra functionality, like filter holders or speedboosters.
@@cameralabs (I don't do filters, but) Yay, filters on my TS-E 17.
For me, I dont really care if the EF lenses are not looking good on a Canon Mirrorless Camera as long as Im getting nice output.
I'm currently using a 77d + Sigma 18-35 and Tamron 70-200 f2.8 G2.
My initial plan is to upgrade to 90d but now I'm leaning toward R7.
The Sigma 18-35 is a lovely lens. Beautiful images
@@benharveyphotographyCan the Sigma lens be used on the R 6?
The Sigma 18-35 F1.8 is a cropped sensor lens, it will work on an R6 but it will either show you massive vignette when at 18mm or automatically crop in 1.6x if it is smart enough to know that it is a cropped sensor lens. In essence you would get a 24-35mm lens equivalent as you cant use the wide end of the lens
@@grg.000
Confirming that ef lenses work better on the R series camera has sold me, I'm on my way to the shop 😊
Lol me too
Same!!
did that info turn out to be true? I am on EF and have considered grabbing an RF next time there is a huge sale.
Thank you for this video. Definitely helped to relieve any anxiety I may have had about needing to transition all my gear to mirrorless. Great review and well presented!
***Correction, it also takes vintage FD lenses, thus 4 types of lenses*** I use them with no issues on my R5 and I hear you about the aesthetics, although the color doesn't bother me, just the extra length. However, the control ring is a game changer as I now customized it for Kelvins. Insane customizability. If you are thinking about getting a mirrorless, buy EF L's or FD's! You will get every focal length possible and can use the 1.6 crop mode for extra reach when in a pinch. My 50 1.2 came alive wide open on the R5, I have never seen such responsive AF even when using my 50 1.4 wide open as well, notorious for hunting but not anymore. R bodies are a no brainer if you want to evolve in photography.
Hi Fred, the FD lenses fit on the R bodies without an adaptor? I had no idea. I only have one FD lens that I use with a reverse ring for macro...but that’s interesting. I also use the crop mode when shooting video. If you export in 1080 then you can film in 4K which makes my new 35mm full frame, a 60mm with Canons 1.7x crop when shooting in 4K, and then of course you can punch in to double that in video editing software.
@@benharveyphotography Hello Ben, they fit with an FD-EOS R adaptor which works great. I bought the Vello brand from B&H and the Fotasy one from amazon as a backup, both great metallic build. You also need to go the menu on the Custom Function section page 4 and turn "ON" where is says "Release shutter w/o lens".
Yes, I'm a firm believer in downsampling to 1080, you get a lot of clean edit options. Even though mine has full frame 4k, I do use the crop mode in video as well as photos, with stunning results. Crops also add a nice non distracting visual element when focusing on a subject. At the moment, my favorite modes to record are 4k HQ and 4k 120.
If the lenses perform perfectly with the adaptor, I see no problem using the adaptor. I have a EF 85 1.2 and a RF 85 1.2 DS on my R6. Love both of them :-D
which do you like more?
@@sydneynomura281 The RF version is technically superior in every way. The EF version provides a dreamy look (because it is softer at 1.2) and a more interesting lens flare :-)
My canon 135 F/2 L mounted on a 5D ii was almost unusable for kids portraits when they were moving. Now, mounted on a R5, I have 100% images with focus on eyes even when my kids are running everywhere. Just a dream to use.
I still have my Canon 135 f2, its such a lovely lens, and I used to use it on a 5d3, but this is lacking continuous autofocus and eye/face detection - so as you say it is a massive bonus when adapted to a Canon mirrorless, especially an R6 or R5 as their focusing system is fantastic.
Very nice, I'm wanting to upgrade to the R6 but was worried if the EF adapter would work well with my lenses. I'm not worried about how it looks 😅 as long as it works
Great to see some honesty and not someone sponsored. I have a similar collection of EF L lens and until the RF lens come down to a price that I don't need to sell a kidney I also will be be sticking with by dirty old EF lens. Like you I just board a second hand 35mm RF which is probably the only affordable RF lens.
Thanks Phillip, yes I don’t see any sponsorship anytime soon. There is a nifty 16mm f2.8 in the pipeline from Canon which is set to be very affordable. I am still holding onto my perfectly good EF glass and adapting them. That said, the adaptors are in such demand I heard Canon have even ran out of them!
Look forward to seeing more videos.
This was actually very helpful. Im returning to photography after taking a break and am looking to buy a Canon EOS R5. I have a 5D Mark III that I want to keep as my back up but now dont have to worry about replacing glass.
No Problem. I recently got a loner from Canon of the R6 with a few of their lenses and one of the benefit of RF lenses over adapting is the burst rate of stills. A canon R5 might be 20 photos per second, but that is dependent upon the lens you mount to it. Some older lenses can’t achieve that because of their design. So if you are shooting action sports that is something to consider.
Really helpful video, I am about to swap to mirrorless so good to know I don't have to sell all my EF lenses!
Thanks for this. I was skeptical about buying the R10 because I have ef lenses. All I clearly need is an adaptor_
Great content Ben. Thanks! Canon read you right--the RF Lens product development & marketing strategy worked very well in having you seamlessly transition to RF lenses. The market was clearly left with options but for Pro use with sensitivity to ergonomics/design, it truly makes sense to get RF lens eventually for RF camera series.
My lenses are native RF with one exception: the EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS III USM. Thanks to eBay I got that lens with tax and shipping for about $1400, which is half the price of the RF before taxes and shipping. On a 20MP camera body the small difference in sharpness didn't feel worth double the price. Maybe one day I'll go RF for the portability, but for now I console myself knowing the EF one has internal zooming to keep it nice and sealed.
I have mainly moved across to native mirrorless lenses now, with the exception of a few EF lenses for architecture and landscape where autofocus is irrelevant. The optical quality remains the same, and something like the 20-700 f2.8 is mounted to the tripod via the lens anyway, so the adaptor become kind or irrelevant to the size of the overall setup. Canons RF lenses remain way too expensive, maybe one day they will open up their mount to sigma and Tamron etc.
Watching this in 2024. I just bought an r100 and an adapter so I can use all of my EF lenses on it. I have noticed that I'm getting really good performance out of these old lenses. I've only bought one RF lens so far.
It will depend on what DSLR you are coming from, but the newer mirrorless cameras have much better focusing capabilities and faster frame rates etc. If you want to compare EF and RF lenses though you need to compare like for like. Therefore your EF lenses adapted might out perform a new but clear RF lens. I have a Canon R8 and now I can use EF lenses to do in camera focus bracketing for macro, so there are benefits to having a newer body, with or without native lenses.
I can't relate to your intense aesthetic hangups. But I appreciate the rest of the info especially the cost benefit, focusing and IQ
Thank you for the wonderful review.
I’m also a long-time Canon user and enthusiast nature & wildlife photographer. I use EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM, EF 400mm f/5.6L USM and EF 200mm f/2.8L II USM lenses for wildlife shots. My eyes are also set on the amazing new EF 400mm f/2.8L IS III USM lens that is significantly lighter than version II and the lightest 400mm f/2.8 in the market. I always use my 2.8 tele lenses with 1.4x and 2x converters.
Now, seriously contemplating procurement of an EOS R. Main objective is, sometimes I stack two converters with the 2.8 tele lenses and capture distant subjects focusing manually on 5DII and 7D. My assumption is; perhaps this stacked combo will AF on the EOS R! Basis for such assumption: it does AF with a touch in Live View on my dual-pixel body 70D. As the Live View is generated directly from the sensor; that stacked combo will also AF with EOS R in its EVF. What do you say?
Thanks in advance.
Hi Quazi, thanks for your comment. As I understand it, you have a few long EF lenses and converters and would like to know what the focusing will be like on the EOS R. My only experience with telephoto on the EOS R are the 100-400 EF Mk 2 & the 70-200 f4. Both work perfectly. When/if I need a bit more reach then I put the 100-400 on my 80D therefore it becomes 600mm. Beyond this I have not used this combination with teleconverters. If you need a massive reach then you might be interested in Canons new RF telephoto primes, they are stuck at F11 though, but are lightweight and very sharp - I have used both of them. Being Canon, and compatibility, I am sure that the focusing performance of the adaptors on the EOS R will be equal if not better than a Canon DSLR in live view. But if you were trying to capture wildlife, then the EOS R is a bit slow an you would be much better off with the R6 or R5, they have superior focusing capabilities and shoot at a much higher burst rate.
What would you recommend for Canon R50 - Sigma 18 to 35 with adapter or Sigma 18 to 50 f/2.8.
I liked this video, thanks for that.
Have you looked at the current Canon EOS R cameras available in 2023? If so, have you plans to do a video on that?
Hi Aaron, I have used/held all of the Canon mirrorless cameras that have been released by Canon - as I help Gordon Laing from Cameralabs.com with his camera and lens reviews from time to time. I noticed a significant boost in focusing capabilities when going from the EOS R and R5 to the R6, R5, R6mk2 etc. I am sure that there are people online doing focusing comparisons with EF lenses on an adaptor to a mirrorless body - however there are sooooo many Canon lenses and in reality I would not be able to get access to the EF version and RF version of a lens to make a comparison. If you want to know how a native lens performs, then check out Cameralabs channel. Gordon doesn’t review adapted lenses however.
There is a lot of talk w/canon for third party lenses. You can buy great canon EF lenses and adapt them at discounted prices. If you want Canon to invest in R&D for future products you need to support their glass also.
At present, Canon are not allowing any third party autofocus lenses, some companies that were making them have stopped production for fear of being legally pursued. I think this is a bad move, as options are good. I have been in the Canon system for a long time, and I had the choice to buy Canon and third party - but I still chose to buy Canon L-series lenses. But by taking that option away in the RF mount, Canon are well behind the competition and companies like Sony are a much more cost effective system to buy into, with options from Sony, Tamron, Sigma, Samyang……if I was starting afresh in a new mirrorless system I am afraid I would not choose Canon based upon lens options right now.
Thanks so much for this. I know it sounds silly but I too care about the aesthetic of the camera! Still happy with the adapter though
The adaptor looks fine, it is only a few lenses that really don’t look/work well adapted, the 50mm f1.2 was my example. Ironically the Canon lenses look better on a Sigma adaptor on a Sony mirrorless as they are all black, they look like they belong together.
Is it worth buying EF lenses today despite of coming of age of mirrorless generation? I still have a perfectly working 5D3 and invested to L prime lenses. Thanks for your advice!
Hi Mark, this is the question. I would say that it depends on what you shoot and how long you can/will resist the temptation to upgrade? I switched to mirrorless because at the time there were no full frame DSLR’s with a flip out screen that I could make my TH-cam videos with and shoot stills (with the exception of 6d mk2 which is meh). So I bought an eos r. I was perfectly happy with my 5d3, although I have to say that for shooting portraits mirrorless is much easier with face and eye detection. If you shoot landscapes then there is less reason to switch because you have live view things are a lot more calm and calculated. It’s probably a personal choice if you switch or not.
@@benharveyphotography thanks for your reply. Im more of a food photographer. I wanted to get the eos R6 but I dont have the budget 🤣 Now, I’m balancing the idea of needs and wants. I checked a lot of videos just like yours that EF lenses can be easily mounted to an eos R with an adopter at an ease. Plus that EF lenses can also be used to other non canon cameras like Sony and Red. But what do you think Ben? If its you, will you still buy the lens? Do you think it’s still worthy? Thanks
Hi Mark, the L series lenses are fantastic lenses. As long as you don’t buy them like you are making an investment - expecting to get your money back then fine. But they on the basis that you are going to keep them and they are a ‘bargain’ compared to the RF versions. I am keeping all my EF lenses.
@@benharveyphotography thanks Ben! Appreciate your replies! On your own experience using EF lenses with EOS R, is it almost the same like your using a native RF lenses? I know it’s not 100% the same but if the difference is just little and I can still get the quality of images and videos I need, I think I will keep using EF lenses. Aside that I don’t have the money. Haha
Hi Mark, I only have one RF lens - so I can’t really make a fair comparison. But I use my EF lenses on the R for portraits and landscapes, architecture and I have no complaints. If you are pixel peeping then the RF versions seem to be slightly sharper and you have the control ring to control ISO for example. You get more than just the same lens with a different mount.
Can the non stabilized ef lenses with canon mount adapter work with in body image stabilization
yes it does work, think about the IBIS like something "independent" or complementary with the IS
My old ef 24-70 felt upgraded on an R because there were no micro-adjustments needed. The sensor focused the lens!
Super helpful. I'm curious. What are you filming on, and is it 10 bit? The colors look so rich.
Hi Michael, nothing fancy - I would have been shooting on my Canon 80D, in 1080. I think the image quality is down to the Sigma Art 16-35 f1.8 lens. It’s a heavy but lovely lens. Plus the Canon colours straight out of camera. My latest video was also shot using the same setup. th-cam.com/video/giNg0UvJr8E/w-d-xo.html
Good video - bit tired of the pressure to move to RF. I’ve got the R6 with the adapter and my images are fantastic. Only problem is every now and then the focus blurs, sometimes at a critical moment. It’s worse when I have the heavy lens on the camera. Any ideas?
Hello. Yes, I can relate - especially since I have spent years ‘building’ a collection of EF lenses for shooting many genres. I have t experiences any issues with my adaptor (I have the basic Canon one, not the ND or the control ring one). When you say blurs it is simply missing focus entirely or it’s not locking focus on what it says is in focus? I would run a few test if static objects with the camera on a tripod and see what is happening.
Sooo ... I love the look of the 50mm on the adapter :D maybe IRL I won't like it as much, but on screen it looks kinda interesting. The color mismatch is a bigger bummer.
How does this 28-300l compare to something like the RF24-240 in terms of image quality and EYE AF tracking?
Hi, I haven’t used either of those lenses, sorry!
Considering the cost of the RF lenses and how much the EF lenses have dropped in price I would definitely buy the adapter and use the EF lenses, especially the L, until the prices drop. If they don't then the EF lenses will be in more demand than the RF and the cost of the EF lenses will go back up.
I recently bought three L lenses, EF 50mm f/1.2 L, EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L II and the EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L II for so much less on the used market than what they cost new and definitely lower than the RF lenses.
The key is to find out when the and of service life is for the lens you're interested in then buy. If the service life is less than one year then pass and spend a little more on the Mk II or III so that you have access to Canon PS.
I had an idea that the RF L lenses would to too expensive for my budget but with the adapter my wife has an RP and I have the R along with the 1Ds MkII and 5D MkII DSLR so we're booked solid.
Additionally, the newer cameras won't function with 3rd party batteries. You will have to buy Canon batteries or your camera will be dead in the water.
Personally I'd live to have all genuine Canon batteries but that's not possible because the ones I need are always out of stock or on backorder. So I buy 3rd party and I haven't looked back.
Did you know that one of Canon's latest flash won't use AA batteries? Flashes have used AA batteries for decades and now that's another Canon battery you'll need or your flash won't work so buy a refurbished or preowned flash that can use AA batteries because they are very easy to find and way less expensive that genuine Canon batteries at $80 to over $100 each.
Just to put it out there, I am not advocating that anyone switch to mirrorless. Only if it makes sense for what you shoot I still use my Canon 5d mk3 with my EF glass because I prefer the way that those larger heavier lenses balance on a larger camera body. Another minor but relevant point is that I don’t switch off my DSLR. It just goes into standby and the batteries last a really long time. That way it is always ready to shoot. I switch off my mirrorless Canons to save the battery life all the time, even when I am just holding it. If however you shoot video, like I do, then mirrorless is an obvious choice due to reliable continuous autofocus to film yourself to make these videos.
Thanx a lot! So many questions were answered in short video
Thank you!! Exactly the information I was looking for!
You are welcome :-)
Hello, apologies if you covered this but do EF autofocus in video?
Hi Dan, absolutely. The continuous autofocus on all of the canon mirrorless cameras work really well, including with adapted EF lenses. I used to have an 80D and for comparison the adapted EF lenses on my eos R is just as capable if not better.
Is there any loss of light using the EF to RF adapter? If yes, how many stops please? Thanks as always...
Philip
NYC Area
It’s an interesting question because this does happen with an extension tube - however the distance between the back of the lens and the sensor is still the same, so I am very confident it is exactly the same amount of light coming in.
@@benharveyphotography Thanks for the reply.
I am actually more concerned with the R5 with battery life. My understanding (from other sources and reviews) is that the R5 battery will last about 250 to 300 shots.
If that is true, doing a wedding I'd have to change batteries about 5 times, where as with my Canon 5D4, I can do a whole wedding on one battery...(w/very rare exception I'd need to change the battery)...Thanks as always.
Phil
NYC Area
Hello. I have only played with the R5 pre-release, so I cant say that I have any experience of its battery life. I own an Canon EOS R, which will ‘suffer’ from the same battery use of the screen draining energy from it, however I have setup a shortcut for switching the screen to hibernate. I genuinely wouldn’t hold back from transitioning to mirrorless on the basis of battery though, they are very efficient, but I believe that burst Rate decreases as the battery life goes down, but I think that applied to DSLR’s also. I still have a 5d3 and a mirrorless camera and I use both, so I get the attachment to the DSLR, they feel reassuring robust in the hand when compared to mirrorless cameras.
@@benharveyphotography Thanks for the info and insight Ben. Appreciated.
As soon as the wedding market and photography gigs pick up again, I will likely still buy an R5 at some point. I do really like my 5D4 and even still have my 5D3 for backup, so all will be good for sure. Have a good day and thanks.
Phil
NYC Area
Thanks for the clear explanations Ben. Glad to hear that I can use all my EF lenses this way I can probably afford the R6 Mark 2 for my next upgrade from the EOS 70D. By the way you talked about prime lenses, what about Canon zoom Lenses? Will it work as well?
I used to use my Cano 24-105 F4L and my Canon 16-35L on the adaptor and it worked just fine. Better autofocus due to the technology in 4th mirrorless cameras. The R6 my 2 focusing system (same as in the R8 that I have) is rapid. A massive step up from the Canon 70D
@@benharveyphotography Thanks for replying to my question so quickly Ben, I am a new subscriber and looking forward to more valuable info from you.
Thank you for subscribing. I rarely adapt EF lenses anymore, as I have pretty much transitions over to native mirrorless lenses, only using some EF lenses that have not been made for mirrorless yet (tilt shift lenses) or I simply cannot justify spending a few thousand pounds on the RF equivalent of a lens that I already own (100-400L for example). I am hoping that Canon will allow Sigma to start making lenses for their mirrorless cameras!
My budget is very low, I currently have a t5 (I bought like 8 years ago) and managed to buy around 5 lenses and would like to upgrade (is it really an upgrade I'm not sure) to an r100. Any recommendations? How terrible is the r100?
Hi, thanks for the comment. I haven't used a T5 (although I have used other cropped sensor Canon DSLRs). I think you should plan ahead and know what you intend on buying in the future. Your existing 5 lenses, are the EF lenses (designed for full frame) or EF-S lenses, and are they premium lenses (L-series) or cheap lenses that you shouldn't be too precious about. Like i said in this video many years ago, you will end up buying native RF lenses, and they have released many more affordable options since I released this video. Perhaps ask yourself why you are switching to mirrorless also, which features is your existing camera missing to jump to mirrorless? I have personally moved over to full frame only and sold my EF-S lenses. I own the original EOS R still and last year got the R8 which is a very small and lightweight full frame camera. I haven't used the R100 or any of the cropped sensor Canons however.
One point to my consideration would be the EF-RF drop-in Filter adapter. Either original Canon or the new one by Breakthrough. Saving money on lenses and CPL/ND filters sounds nice and also to use filters at all on certain wideangle lenses.
Hi Doninik, I have considered the drop in filter system but I found it very expensive considering that you have to buy a clear filter to slot in when you are not using a polariser or ND. I think the whole system came to about £400 or close. And since I shoot with more that one camera this seemed like a waste of money for me. I have opted to use magnetic filters (82mm) and use step up rings, but I am awaiting my Revoring that is a Kickstarter campaign that allow you use use one filter for various thread sizes. If you didn’t see my review, link below th-cam.com/video/KfmskxcADsY/w-d-xo.html
@@benharveyphotography thank you for your reply! Since the Canon system is indeed quite an investment I'm looking at the Breakthrough alternative.
If its Performs so well, why does it matter if it doesn't "just doesn't looks right"
Thinking about making the jump from my 5diii to a mirrorless system without breaking the bank, i do more photo than video so an eos R makes more sense for me than an a7iii, do you lose continuous af when adapting an EF Lens, really dont wanna say goodbye to my 24-105 L series!
Hi. This is potentially a big question, which Canon Mirrorless you should get or whether you should switch to Sony…If you go to Canon then your existing Canon lenses will adapt seamlessly. But you will want to buy the RF 24-105 like I did eventually. If you adapt a canon EF lens to a sony, the Sigma MC-11 adaptor does an OK job, but its not as good as Canon to Canon.
So it depends upon how many lenses you have at the moment whether you should jump ship or not because you will only adapt for so long. If you never owned a camera and were looking to get into a system, then the most cost effective and developed system is Sony, because of the lens line up. From Sony and all third party companies. However Canon aren’t currently allowed third party lens manufacturers to develop lenses for their cameras, so you are stuck with very expensive big heavy lenses if you go with Canon mirrorless. I still own my EOS R as it have a good amount of resolution for landscape photography and architecture. However its focusing system is very casual, it has a slow burst rate and has entry level video specs. So it depends what you need to do with it. I hope that this helps.
Really useful, gonna pick up a R6 and combine with my EF lenses 😊 Hope to step up my TH-cam game 🎥
It’s a lovely camera, I am sure that you will enjoy it!
@@benharveyphotography for sure, just went out and recoded some evening street photography in my latest two videos and uploaded, really blown away by the quality 🤯😀 works amazing with my 24-70 2.8
how about softness. saw a video claiming pics with the R lenses are way sharper , need to confirm if optical quality decreases when using the EF lenses .
Hello. It obviously depends what lenses you are trying to compare. The R lenses are redesigned, it isn’t just the same glass with a new mount, I would expect them to be sharper and better than their EF equivalent. But if you put an EF lens in a Canon mirror less camera it won’t be any different to putting it on a DSLR in terms of optical performance. It is just air between the sensor and the back of the lens element.
generally, RF L lenses is an upgrade from EF, technology, optical glasses, etc etc. so they expected perform better than the Ef L lenses.
i own 70-200 F2.8 RF and EF mount. the RF is very very good in term of image quality 10/10. sadly the price 1/10 lol...
Thank you very much for this vdeo !! I got a question though, is the focal lenght the same with the adapter ? Or will my 24 mm become a 32 mm or something ?
Hi Emilie, it depends whether the lens is an EF lens (full frame) or EF-s lens (cropped sensor). If you put a full frame lens on a full frame camera via the adaptor it will stay the same, therefore 24mm will stay 24mm. However if you put the 24mm EF-S lens on a Canon mirrorless the camera will automatically crop in and it will become a 36mm (24 x1.5 crop factor). I hope this makes sense. The adaptor is simply creating a space between the sensor and the back of the lens where the mirror used to be.
@@benharveyphotography Ok, thank you so much for your answer !! This makes perfect sense :)
I think you just saved me heaps of stress and potential $ with this. I just ordered an open box and branded in my old dslr for the r6 mark II. My instructor told me to get the f2.8 but the Rmodel is waaay too $. Then I see that I can get the eF version used and get the adapter as you say and trade in my old lenses to bring down the cost more along with the free voucher I got and now I can see that I can have the f2.8 that really is what I should have.. there are two types of adapter is the one with the control ring and the regular. is the control ring one necessary? or can one get by with the regular?
Hi Janine, Thanks for leaving the comments and apologies for the delayed response, I have been on holiday. The adaptor with the control ring is not necessary if you are coming from a DSLR as you will not miss the feature that it is offering you. it essentially you can assign things such as ISO to the ring and control it with your left hand that is supporting the lens. If you buy RF lenses in future this control ring is on all of the RF lenses anyway. So I would recommend getting the normal adaptor. The R6 Mk 2 is a fantastic camera, you will be very happy with it. I have the R8, which shares the same sensor and focusing system as the R6 mk2, but sacrifices a few features that the R6 2 has.
You're right, the RF 35 looks great on the R. I myself am guilty of thinking the same.... it just looks off, having an EF lens on the R5. Not to mention that the total length of the combination is significantly larger. I tried my EF 70-200 on both the 5DIV and the R5.... and the R5 combination warped the eyepiece in my backpack/bag. Just wouldn't fit properly anymore.
However, I do think some RF lenses are probably worth the money, but it's unconventional. For example, look at the RF 28-70 f/2. Seeing the optical quality (low distortion, sharp even wide open and in the corners) and the amount of light it let's in...it might be a replacement for several primes. I'd replace my 28mm f/1.8, 35mm f/1.4, 50mm f/1.4 and maybe 85mm f/1.4 with it, while replacing the 24-70mm f/2.8 as well in the process.
It's all about your style of shooting however. I mostly shoot portraits, people, events ... and even in a controlled set I like the flexibility of a zoom. While in your landscape work it's probably no issue to change lenses at all unless the rain is pouring down. :)
I did an interesting experiment about a year and a half ago. I put my 24 year old Canon 135 f2 against Sony’s latest G master 135 f1.8. The Sony was so sharp it hurt! Wide open. But when I shared the images online (note that I got the images as close as possible because canon and Sony cameras + dynamic range are different) people couldn’t tell which one was new and which was from the mid 90’s! So most of the sharpness benefit comes when we appreciate the images on a good screen or a high quality print. If you never do that then we are not getting the most out of the equipment.
A very useful video for me Ben ;) I'm thinking about buying either the R5C or the R1 when it finally arrives. I've been using Canon 1Ds III for the last 10 years, and this camera has never let me down... and I mean - NEVER. Initially, when I bought it, I didn't have money left for lenses. And as I previously owned a 30D, I had EF-S lenses. I couldn't use them with 1Ds, so I bought a cheap 50mm 1.8, plastic fantastic lens. Although this lens was having big issues with focusing on my 30D, it worked amazingly well on 1Ds III for portraits. Later on, I started investing in the "L" series, thinking - they would serve me well. And they did, again, no issue with any of them. Now I've been learning video recording/editing for some time and would like to get a capable camera, with the capability of taking good quality pictures as well, as recording video. Was close to buying R5, but resigned after many negative opinions about overheating. I continued recording with my smartphone on a gimbal instead. Now is the time I consider investing in a new camera( and inevitably in a new gimbal for it ). But all these compatibility issues, adapters, and new RF standards just drive me crazy :) I think I'll wait for the R1 to go on sale( to know the price ), and make my decision between R5C and R1.
Hi Daniel, there is a lot to unpack there. I made this video many years ago when I was transitioning from DSLR to mirrorless and most of my lenses are now native lenses. The good news is that you have quite a few Canon mirrorless cameras to choose from. In terms of video specs most of them now shoot in 4K, some of them in slow motion. The R5 over heating was an issue primarily with shooting in 8k and slow motion where it is very demanding on processing power (downscaling high megapixel resolution to 4k for example). So depending upon your video needs, you might need a R5 or an R1. A reliable source of camera is my friend Gordon Laing at Camera Labs and he gets exclusive access to new Canon released.
I'll probably move to mirrorless next year and think about R6 or R7. I have some EF lenses I like very much, e.g. 100mm Macro IS, F2.8 and very old 300mm f4.0 IS and 200mm F2,8 II. I guess especially the latter ones could not cope with the high resolution of the R7, what do you think?
I'm also slightly afraid there won't be a lot of high quality RFS-lenses as was the case with EFS-lenses which makes the R7 not so attractive in spite of very good specs.
Hi Martin, as you say the cropped sensor mirrorless cameras from Canon are new to the market and the glass is not there yet, but to adapt of invest in full frame glass from their RF line up - which is very expensive. I don’t know the answer to your question about the resolution capabilities of the older (but very good) EF lenses is, but I am sure someone on the internet has the answers for you.
Liked you video and also the way you interact/give advice to everyone in the comments. New follower!
Thanks Fred. Much appreciated.
Hi Ben, does the autofocus works the same with EF adapter than the native RF lenses? Same speed, same accuracy?
Hello Guido, it is not a test that I have ever done, as I would need to buy the same lens in EF and RF mount, which would not be a good use of money. I wouldn’t;t want to speculate, but take into consideration that the newer Canon mirrorless cameras have much better focusing capabilities that the original EOS R, and although I have used the R6 (Canon sent me a loaner) and the R5 when it was first released - ideally you find someone that has the Canon camera that you are considering with the lens on an adaptor that you are considering buying. Some lenses are fast at focusing, others are slow - you should get the answers for your specific combination.
I have a question that i can't seem to find the answer for. I just bought a Canon RP and the canon adapter, but my Sigma 18-200mm lens doesnt work with this camera, because it fits the adapter pretty well but the images have a black ring on the sides of the images taken with this lens, and the camera doesnt seem to be able to fix it because it says that there are no ''data'' for the lens. Does anybody know if i can make it work? or should i just sell it and buy only canon lenses? im very confused at this point.
Hi Jud, I can hopefully clear this up. I used to have a Sigma 18-35 f1.8 lens which was designed for cropped sensor cameras. If you put it on a Canon EOS R adaptor the camera didn’t recognise it as a cropped sensor lens and therefore let you see the whole image circle, which is the darkened edges of the image. This is essentially the inside of the lens that you are seeing because it was meant to go on a smaller sensor camera. It probably says ‘EF-S’ on the lens instead of EF, which is full frame. You have two choices if you are using a cropped sensor lens on a full frame camera, either zoom in until you go beyond the darkened corners, or you go into teh menus and engage the 1.6 crop that Canon will automatically apply if you were to use a Canon EF-S lens. I hope this helps!
Great video...... good to hear about the auto focus performance of EF lenses on R6/5. As for the colour difference (black v grey (or white / cream)..... it won’t bother me in the slightest. Thanks for the video.
Thanks Bernie, obviously I haven’t tried all of the lenses adapted on the R6 & R5, but I did use the 100mm 2.8L EF, and the 35 f1.8 RF and the 24-105 F4 RF and they were all amazing due to the new focusing system on the R5 & R6. I know the colour difference is a first world problem, that I can deal with, but some of the lenses just don’t sit right on a much smaller body do they?
Thanks Ben, I'm considering the EOS R, to use in conjunction with my collection EF Lens, & EF-S lens. My I ask what Adapter do you use for on your EOS R to EF Lens? I'm not a Professional, but have found the EF Primes lens are "GO ENOUGH", for me. Appreciate your assistance. THANKS
Hello. I am using the standard Canon RF to EF adaptor. There is no doubt that EF lenses and some EF-S lenses have great optical quality, I made this video for those that are curious about how they work when adapted. I personally wound’s use EF-s lenses on the EOS R as it will crop in to use only the centre of the sensor and therefore you will see a reduction in resolution and quality, but otherwise no one will tell the difference whether you are using a native lens or adapted when they look at your content.
Recently I'm buying EOS RP shifting from APSC to FULL FRAME and I'm stuck in buying RF 24-105 f4-7.1 STM or EF 24-70 f2.8 USM, I've CANON EF-RF ADAPTOR...plz help me I'm doing wedding photography videography and Landscape too...
Hello, it all depends on your budget really what is the best tool for the job. Many wedding shooters that I follow stick to using primes, I shoot most of my portraits using primes, 35, 50, 85 & 135mm. I have the 24-105 f4-7.1 and although it has stabilisation I don’t like using it for video due to the floating aperture as you zoom in. I would opt for the F4 version if I was shooting video (which will set you back around £1000). The EF24-70 f2.8 on an adaptor and on a small body like the RP is going to be a very front heavy setup. I am not sure if you are using the one camera to shoot stills and video, which if you are again I would avoid using the variable aperture 24-105 as f7.1 at the long end is not going to achieve very soft backgrounds. I hope that this helps?
The ef 17-40mm L lens is the same as the canon eos R, still vignette or not
I don’t have that lens unfortunately- I have the 16-35 and the 24-105.
Nice video BUT I am sure from you are from UK did you know butterfly knives are in fact illegal to own in UK so in wouldn't be flashing one around on a video.. Just a heads up.
I think they are, I picked it up in Holland about 20 years ago - I keep it in the house, all good 🙂
Thank you for making the video. But I have one question. I wanted to ask whether I'll be able to use my Sigma 150-600(canon mount) on a RF body? Thanks in advance!
Hello, if your Sigma is an EF mount then sure, you will be able to use it with the canon EF-RF adaptor on your RF body. I assume that the sigma is full frame, but Canon have now released cropped sensor mirrorless cameras.
I'm about to upgrade from my 90D to an R6 Mark II, and I was thinking weither I keep the Sigma 24-105 F4 that I own or replace it with an RF 24-105 F4. Thanks for the useful information.
Hello. It depends on a few things. If that is the only EF lens that you own then just get the Canon RF version and that will save you buying the adaptor and having to adapt. The RF version has image stabilisation, I am not sure if the Sigma does? The R6 mk2 focusing system will probably out perform older lens and you therefore might not be getting the best performance out of your new camera. I made this video a few years ago and hardly ever adapt anymore, as I predicted I have slowly moved over the native glass. Depending upon what you shoot, I made a review of the EF 24-205, the RF 24-105 f4 and the RF 24-105 with variable aperture and the RF 24-105 was a bit of a disappointment for the money. Since that video I have actually sold the F4 version and use the much much light and smaller variable aperture version for shooting landscapes as it is just as sharp amazingly. Link below. th-cam.com/video/ySzMkQ0Sjik/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2wc4NXcQohFHRK29
Thanks for all the valuable information. I appreciate the response to my question in such detail. I think I will start collecting RF lenses and will start with the 15-35 F2.8 for landscape photography the thing that I like the most, thanks again.
I am looking at the new R5MKII but cant imagine my 70-200 F2.8 with a 2x extender on the adaptor with the R5 body!! Dilema?? Having said that I wouldnt want to replace it with the RF version either at nearly £3k
Without knowing which DSLR body you are going from and what you shoot, it is difficult to comment on whether you are going to achieve the results and performance on a brand new mirrorless camera with adapted lenses. Ok the basis that you are extending I am going to assume you are shooting wildlife or something that needs more reach. Honestly if you are going mirrorless then get a native Canon lens like the 100-500 and buy the R5 mark 1 if you need to save some money. The upgrades on the r5 and minimal compared to the mark 1. If you need a long lens that doesn’t have a fast aperture they make a 600 and 800 f11.
One extra comment. Having a relatively compact mirrorless camera with an adaptor, then an extender, then an EF lens is going to result in a very long, front heavy, unbalanced and odd looking setup that I personally wouldn’t enjoy using (I recently used a mirrorless camera with an adapter and extension tubes with the 100-400 L lens and although optically it was great it was not a pleasurable experience. So before you pounce on buying the R5ii have a think about what you intend on shooting with it and what the best tools for the job might be.
Interesting video and good to know these EF lenses work even better on the RF cameras.
I just purchased a Canon R3 and the RF 70-200 f/2.8. I have two 1DX Mk3 bodies, 16-35 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8, EF 70-200 f2.8, 300 f2.8, 50 f1.2 and 85 f1.2.
I'm likely going to sell both 1DX Mk3s, EF 70-200 2.8 and 300 f2.8 which I can say is never used as too long for what I shoot. The 70-200 is my go to and the weight saving in new camera and lens is worth it. However, having the ability to re-use the other lenses which are only used occasionally makes the switch less of a financial burden - RF glass ain't cheap. The long awaited R1 just didn't seem worth the extra (or on hindsight the wait) to me.
5:50 Technically, the shorter the flange distance, the more mounts the camera system can take. The case with Canon is that the adapting performance with their own lenses doesn't drop.
Thank you, you are right. It is interesting now that Canon have released a cropped sensor mirrorless camera that the APS-C lenses still use the same mount but the first two lenses release step in from the mount diameter. It doesn’t quite look right.
Been toying with the idea to jump to mirrorless from my 5D iv but not decided best option yet. Weight of gear is something that is a factor too so probably need to look into all the options including moving away from Canon but been a Canon user for years so not an easy decision
Hey Jim, send me a PM if you have any questions. I have an EOS R, and a Sony A7iii (its a bit unusual for someone to be using two camera brands! I also get to try out a lot of new cameras via my friend Gordon at Cameralabs. No better way than to try before you buy! The 5dMk4 is amazing based upon my EOS having the same inners, although I jumped from a 5d3 to the EOS R. There probably is no real reason to upgrade except for the knowledge that Canon are unfortunately no longer developing EF lenses. Which I feel a bit sad about, because I have invested in a lot of EF lenses. But there is genuinely nothing wrong with a high end DSLR and L-series lenses from a few years ago. I still use a Canon 135 f2 and that is 24 years old now. An amazing lens!!!
Please let me know that, a Canon EF 70 ~300 mm when fitted to Canon R8, via adopter, will CROP the image. Thank you.
This EF 70 ~300 lense was being used on a AP-C sensor Canon 80D
Hi Shoeb, I have not used an adaptor with any cropped sensor Canon mirrorless cameras (they were not released when I made this video), so I can’t really comment on this. I am sure there are others that have tested this though.
Hi, Ben I just recently subscribed to your YT blog so please excuse if my ?s are naive. OK so I'm just about to take a long Euro River cruise from Amsterdam to Budapest and I'm thinking of upgrading my 2007 Canon Xsi 12 MP to the new Canon RP(don't really see much advantage to the R for my enthusiast level of photog. You seemed to be impressed with the performance of the older EF lenses with the Canon Mirrorless and said that they were now "turbo" in comparison to the older APS_C bodies focus capability. I have 3 EF lenses (orig. kit 18 - 55, a 75-300 EF, and my 28 - 135 that I bought from a pro photographer who bought 3 Canon 60D bodies and straight away sold the three 28-135s. I had read at the time (2009) that this may have been the sharpest kit zoom that Canon had packed with any of their PRO bodies and it has been my std walk-around lens since I purchased it. My question is do you advise against this and if so, why? I should tell you that I prpobably waited too long and my trip is getting close and I will not have much time to acclimate to the new set-up but most of my travel photos tend to be "auto mode shots any-way. Your thoughts?
Hi Stanford, thanks for your message. It is difficult to answer your question, as I am not sure exactly what you tend to photograph, however you have given a broad description of travel - I will work with that. The RP is certainly light and compact, which you will appreciate. I just looked up the lenses that you have and they are all sub-£200, which means that in the grand scheme of things you are not heavily vested in a system. When I made this video I have something like 6 or 7 L-series lenses, so it makes sense to stay with Canon. If you jump to a full frame mirrorless Canon then you will be able to use the two longer lenses that you mention, but the 18-55 is designed for a cropped sensor camera and you will not benefit from using it on a full frame camera. I think you will also struggle in low light situations when you travel, since the lenses that you have are variable apertures. Ignore this comment if you don't shoot low light. If you are going to spend just shy of £1000 on a new camera and put some very old lenses on it then you will not benefit from the advanced tech in the mirrorless system. My advice is that when you switch to mirrorless then dive in the deep end, pick a system that suits your needs. Explore Sony and Fuji also, you have the choice to start again now - Canon mirrorless system is very expensive when it comes to lenses. I hope that this helps and enjoy your travels! Ben
Having just converted over from the Nikon ecosystem, I’ve been wondering if it’s worth getting some EF lenses for my RP.
Hi Michael, if I were starting again I would only buy native lenses. Since making this video I also got the Canon 50mm f1.8, which is a great affordable lens - but I do tend to shoot a lot with primes. Although EF lenses will work just fine on the mirror less bodies, the adaptor does add a few centimetres onto the set up. You will also get extra features on the lens itself depending upon which one you get The 35mm for example has a control ring which I use to change the ISO, which comes in handy when you don’t want to take your eye from the viewfinder.
@@benharveyphotography thank you. I was looking at the cost differences.
Hello Ben, I wonder can you answer this question for me. When doing my landscape photography I would always ensure that I was lined up with the affinity marker to assist my depth of field. But these new Canon RF lenses have no marker. How do approach this situation now ???
Hi Allan, when I am using my EOS R for landscapes, I switch my lens to manual focus, which will enable two things, focus peaking and Canon have a new focusing guide with two green arrows. When your focus point is out of focus the green arrows are further apart. You twist the focus ring until the green arrows sit on top of one another and then you have sharp focus. I find it to be very reliable. It only becomes complicated it you enable touch screen to take the photograph, which you will then have to disable to select your focus points. I hope this answers your question.
@@benharveyphotography thank you for your prompt reply Ben...
Great video Ben thank you! I’m about to buy my first full frame mirrorless camera and am deciding between a7Riii and EOS R (not sure which EOS R yet). It seems you own cameras in both systems. For landscape and creative fine art stills which do you recommend? I’m looking to buy used and buy into a system with relatively affordable and plentiful second hand lens options. Leaning towards Sony for dynamic range and low light but have always loved canon. Thoughts?
Hi Tyler, yes I am currently shooting with a Sony A7iii and the Canon Eos R. The Sony’s are technically more capable for landscapes, as they have more dynamic range, and a lot more lenses than Canon...for now. But you can adapt canon EF lenses onto the Sony and the Eos R, but a slight compromise on a few things as a highlighted in this video. The EoS R has 30MP, which is plenty for me. To get higher resolution in the Canon mirrorless system then you have the R5. That’s it. The canon is a nicer user experience but it does many things ‘well’. Depending if you shoot portraits under the banner of fine art, the the Eos R is slow. It only shoots a few frames a second and has no ibis. That is the only weakness I would say. The Sony on the other hand is much faster and wins for portraits and general speed of focusing capabilities. The -R5 and R6 however are better than the Sony for focusing and speed. I have never used the A7r3, but Sony’s are generally the same form factor and menus. They are a bit of a nightmare. They are also too small to fit in the hand, so I have a small rig l bracket to make it fit in my hands.
I would suggest that you use/borrow a Sony and if it is a miserable experience then get the Canon. If you get on with the menus then Sony might be right for you. This is on the basis that you do not intend on using the cameras for filming yourself as you will need a Canon for that! Long answer. Sorry!
For what it’s worth Tyler, I bought the a7c because it seemed so perfect. It’s the a7iii but with a flip out screen and the same new colour science as the a7siii. I returned it less than a day later. I probably should have gave it longer usage, but I hated using it immediately. So do what he’s saying, try, borrow, rent, do what you have to do to get the camera you’re thinking about getting into your hands first, before deciding on which system you’ll invest in.
@@mikebanks4796 thanks for echoing my comments. I have held the a7C and it was again quite small in the hand - but it is what I wanted the a7iii to be when I bought that two years ago.
I hope that you got all your money back and found something that works for you!?!
@@benharveyphotography I wanted to love the a7c because it’s specs are great, but I just hated using it. I did a couple test videos with it and the workflow was very annoying. Appreciate the concern and yeah, I returned it with no restocking fees. 🙂 Some will call me crazy but I grabbed the EOS R instead. I was able to get the R with the RF 24-105 f/4 brand new with some negotiating for $2,600 CAD ($2,035 USD) so it was an absolute no brainer.
@@mikebanks4796 I use the EOS R for most of my photograph and filming most of my TH-cam videos and it’s awesome. As long as you don’t need wide angle 4K (because of the crop it applies) then it’s a great all rounder.
Hello, came across your video in my search for a new camera. I have been using my moms Rebel T6 and my friend gave me all of his EF glass. I’ve been considering getting the EOS R or the R6. I mainly take product photos and landscapes, probably won’t shoot any video. My main problem is that the Rebel will not auto focus sometimes or it will hunt for a long time when I use the 100mm macro. Will the EOS R work any better? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you!
Hello Hank. The rebel t6 (known as 1300d here) is an entry level camera - so the Eos R will out perform it without a doubt. The EOS R has the inners of a 5d mk4 which is a pro DSLR. It is perfect for landscapes and product photography, you get the resolution and image quality. Where the EOS R falls down is fast shooting speed and the advanced autofocus system of the R6 and R5. I have used them all and I was using my EOS R just yesterday with an adapted EF 135mm lens. The autofocus is fine for what you need, providing you are not shooting fast moving objects. The 100mm macro has such a focus range that it will hunt. If it is the L-version you might want to flip the switch in the side of the lens to limit the focus range and therefore hunt less. The R6 has a much better focusing system but you lose resolution. Take into account the approx £100 you have to pay for the Canon EF to Rf adaptor when looking at costs.
At the comment about RF lenses not having any bright lenses - it's simply physics, you cannot cheat that. You can remove the mirror and make battery smaller and thus make body smaller. You can make the mount smaller, as the light can be pointed to almost a single point there.
But (aside of ridiculously expensive telephoto shenanigans) the lens has to be at least as long as its focal length (minus flange distance, of course) and as wide as its focal length divided by its top light performance (at the front glass element). So if you have 50mm f/1.2, it has to be at least roughly 50 mm long and 42 mm wide at top - and yes, for higher performance lenses this can look ridiculous on mirrorless, purely because they are tiny. Just imagine 85mm f/1.4, measuring ~61 mm at the front, stuck to a mirrorless.
I imagine this is something we have to get used to in the end as mirrorless will prevail. After all, we got used to it going from big boxy cameras to tiny (in comparison) DSLRs and compacts.
I love the adapted aesthetic
Big advantage ef-rf adapter with drop in filters.Butterfly knife is a bit over the top.
I have refrained from getting the adaptor with the filters for the reason that you also have to buy the clear filter for when the ND filters are not in use, and it actually equates to a few hundred quid, which is more than an 82mm high quality ND filter. I now tend to use magnetic ND filters or where I need a variable ND I use the H&Y Revoring to adapt my 82mm VND to any of my lens sizes (but this is a kick-starter and only available for pre-order at the moment).
Hi Ben....that was very helpful. By the way....you have a very honest expression style. :-)
Thank you :-)
I like this guy
Can I use my Sigma Ef lenses with an adapter? I’m in need of a new camera and thinking of switching to mirrored, but I’m not interested in investing in new lenses right now and I love my Sigma Art!
*mirrorless
Yes, if your sigma lenses are Canon EF mount then they will work on the canon EF to RF adaptor.
I am going to buy an RF lens one day… just let me get this one last EF L lens before I change…. Three years after this clip, I still buy used EF L’s for my R7 and R6ii
You have held out buying native glass for a loooong time. Congratulations. You have self-discipline
I was curious to find out whether or not EF lenses will be improved on all Rf bodies or just the R5/6 so thanks for answering that one, the colour thing although not the most elegant composition to grace the world wont bother me, its the performance Im after,. Incidentally I use MPB from time to time, lenses i haven't had any issues with, but they did sell me a body that turned out to have a control wheel issue with so a little disappointed on that front,
Sorry to hear that you had an issue with MPB. You are the first person that I have heard of with an issue. Hopefully they fixed the problem as they come with a warranty...
As for the mirrorless experience and EF lenses, you will be happy with the experience when comparing it to a DSLR.
@@benharveyphotography tell the truth I only found out what the issue was when I came to trade in, it wasn't a permanent fault it usually didn't change the shutter speed first time when it happened then if you have it a firm push it would change, didn't really cause an issue back then as I wasn't using it very regularly, it did get worse and I was doing more weddings which is the reason why I wanted to trade up and by that time warranty was gone anyway, I'm not questioning their service as it more than likely slipped through the net, but I am just a tiny bit wary now of how rigourous their system checks are,
If I adapt ef 50mm to rf mount, does the ef 50mm remain as 50 mm lens? Or the additional length of the adapter will impact to the focal length?
Hey. The lens will remain as a 50mm. The adaptor takes up the same space between the back of the lens and the mirror in a DSLR. It is simply creating a space between the EF lens and the mirrorless camera.
Watching this in October 2024, EF L lens all the way, more choice between mark one / two and three versions for budget and quality, EF-L lens still offer excellent quality for what you pay for. 🥳
The EF lenses didn’t rely upon in camera corrections like the new lenses do, but when you put them side by side with the new versions the newer are sharper and add new features such as better image stabilisation and are smaller and lighter in some instances (70-200 for example). BUT you pay for these improvements. Canon lenses are still ridiculously expensive, years after making this video and they are not allowing third party lens manufacturers to help us out. Sigma Art lenses on Canon RF would be much appreciated.
Hi Ben Harvey
Does the canon lens mount adapter affect af accuracy and also af speed and also eye af and also af tracking on canon full frame mirrorless camera
If put with ef lenses
Hi James. I have come from a Canon 5d3 and stepped up to the EOS R, which is essentially a mirrorless version of the 5d4. But I also own a Canon 80D which has dual pixel autofocus as a benchmark. I use the EOS R with many EF lenses, the eye tracking works very well, the focusing speed is equal if not better on the mirrorless camera (but still very much dictated by the lens motors. I also use my EOS R to film most of my TH-cam videos and the tracking on it is outstanding. All of this is based upon the EOS R. On the R5 and R6 the focusing capabilities are massively improved with EF lenses. I hope this answers your question!
@@benharveyphotography does the canon lens mount adapter affect anything in canon eos r5 and canon eos r6
@@jamescarlos8642 can you be a bit more specific?
I waited for canon to come out with mirrorless for years and the thanks I got was huge expensive RF glass.....it is good to know the ef glass works. but, not going to lie, there will always be a bitter sting in the thought that to replace my $1800 24-70L with the Rf version will cost $2400.
It’s painful isn’t it. There are of course improvements with the RF lenses. I haven’t used them all but you get the control ring and I am told better sharpness, but I was pretty happy with the quality of my EF lenses - I wasn’t looking to upgrade! I think I will drag out any upgrades over a few years or wait until Sigma start making art lenses in the RF mount.
I have used MPB for 4 of my cameras, plus quite a few lenses and also really would recomend them. (Canon 1Dx. user )
Agreed, they are my go to for purchasing used lenses, they provide such a good service, awesome communication. I really cant fault them.
My question is, I have the RP and adapting a Sigma DG full frame lens. While doing this you get vignette obviously. When I go into the 1.6x crop mode does this still use the full sensor or does this crop the sensor down to around an 11 megapixel image?
Hi Jason, since the RP is full frame I am not sure why you would get vignetting, as the sigma is a full frame lens and the adaptor simply recreates the distance between the mirror and the sensor on a DSLR? That aside when you crop in it is use the centre part of the sensor - which will reduce the resolution for photos (not the case for video as there is still enough pixels in the middle of the sensor for 4K on most cameras). I hope this makes sense.
I could never use my EOS R without the battery grip as the camera isn't balanced - with the grip the adaptor isn't an issue, + I use the daptor with the variable ND & polarizer which I couldn't use with my TS-E 17 as I shoot architecture - Will be upgrading to the R5 as soon as cash allows - I am a pro of 22 years. going from EOS 1Ds, 5D, 6Dmk2 then the EOS R - The mirrorless is a game changer and would never go back to DSLR!
You will appreciate the resolution boost when you get the R5. It’s a lovely camera, more than I need though.
Great video! Thank you! I have been using a Canon R6 with EF lenses, using the adapter. I have found that this combination creates very small file sizes. The file sizes are smaller than what my old Canon 60D produces. Have you run into this?
Hi Hannah, this is an interesting question which I am confident that the adaptor has no influence upon the file sizes, unless you are using EF-S (lenses meant for cropped sensor Canons) whereby the camera will automatically crop in and the R6 will be down to 12.5 megapixels as it would be 1.6x cropped in. If you are using EF lenses, and they are full frame, then its something else on your R6 that is causing it. Perhaps go into the menu and check that you shooting in RAW or High quality and it should say 20MP or similar. I hope this helps.
@@benharveyphotography Oooh! Thank you so much. That totally answers my question. I completely overlooked the fact that it was happening when I was using an EF-S lens. It doesn't happen with my full frame EF lenses. Thanks again for mentioning that....so helpful!!
You are welcome.
This video answered my questions! Thanks! New sub.
If you don’t mind my asking, what adapter are you using? I am seeing them for USD 99 - 199.
Hi Andrew, I am using the Canon standard adaptor. They do three versions, the standard, an alternative which has a control ring on it (which you can customise to control aperture or ISO for example, and a third option which allows you to slot in filters before the lens. The standard one was the only one available at the time of my purchase. I might consider the version with the control ring however the version that takes fingers is a very expensive way of using filters and you need a clear filter
Inserted where you aren’t using other filters and they are all quite expensive.
Could you confirm if the images will be cropped when using ef lenses such as the canon 17-40mm f/4 L on canon mirrorless cameras or is it just the case with ef-s lenses?
Hello. EF lenses are not cropped at all. They function as they do on a DSLR (unless you enable digital stabilisation which has a minor crop). It is only EF-S lenses that will automatically crop in by 1.6 times, otherwise you would end up with a massive solid black vignette in all of the images.
How do you like the RF 35mm?
I'm kind of the same, that's why I'm here, and I can live with the EF lenses not matching and as a bonus, putting them in an R5/6 is a significant upgrade and, an added bonus us there are some great EF bargains to be had [MPB fan here too] RF glass have to pay for all its R&D, I think it will be some time before most of the RF L's are anywhere near a sensible price...
Of course, the goal is to move over to RF glass eventually, it's a long time since I've bought a new lens, used is the way to go, it just requires some patients!
Hi Simon. I really like the 35mm. I am a big fan of primes really. Since making this video I have expanded my RF lenses, but I have been pretty sensible as they are very expensive. I have the 35mm, the 50mm 1.8 and I just purchased the RF16mm. I got my hands on a pre-production model of that a month ago (review on my Channel coming out next week). And finally I got what I considered a reasonably priced all-rounder, the 24-105 F4. And interesting what you mention about the R&D for all the new lenses, I compared this to my EF 24-105 and there is no difference at all in optical quality! The 35mm is stabilised, so that is a benefit, and it is a really nice size, well balanced on the camera. It is slow at focusing though, perhaps because it is a macro lens and has such a range. The focusing is silent, but I wouldn’t use it for fast moving subjects.
A long answer, but I am slowly Moving over to RF with some sensible purchases. I have kept all of my EF lenses though, as they work perfectly on my DSlR and when adapted onto my mirrorless camera. But I am adapting a lot less nowadays.
Ben.
I really have to work at refraining from long replies...
I think most of us would have an all prime set up in an ideal world, I tend to have a zoom/prime sandwich, something like 16-35mm, 50mm, 85mm, 100mm macro and 135mm, with a superzoom on the long end, so a huge focal range that I could not get without a second mortgage, but there are compromises, of course, mostly on the long end with smaller apertures.
I could be tempted to add the 35mm prime, I don't know why they call it a macro, it technically isn't, nor is the RF 85mm macro [which also looks interesting], but still, it possibly has a flatter field optic like macro lenses do, which generally offers sharper edges and possibly slower focusing.
I have the 85mm f1.4L IS, and aside from the RF 85mm macro is, I think is the only 85mm with IS, the new RF 85mm f1.2 lenses aside, is possibly the best 85mm on offer and I'd be reluctant to trade it in.
Canon has clearly invested a lot of time, money, and resources in the new RF lenses and R system and that of course will keep prices high for the foreseeable future [as well as global component shortages], strangley enough, though, the EF 24-105mm f4 L II and it's RF counterpart have identical retail prices, which cannot really be said of any other RF lens, maybe they feel that they need a quality and somewhat affordable standard zoom in the range and have cut there margins on that particular lens [or just changed the mount and body]
From what I've seen said of the 16mm, I don't think I would be happy with it, I may even theorise that it is meant more for an upcoming APS-C R body, as it doesn't seem so good on the 35mm sensor.
I shoot a lot at night, so the difference in the lens body colour won't even be noticeable, but as good as the adapter is, you can't beat a native mount.
Just out of interest, I bought a few adapters and keep them on my most used lenses to limit the hassle of swapping between adapted EF and RF mount lenses.
Rumour has it that there is an RF 135mm f1.4 L in the works, but I bet that will have an eye watering pricetag!
Hi Simon, there is a lot of corrective compensation going on with the RF16mm, I show that in my video that will be out 16th Nov at 4pm. The camera conceals this with the jpegs and video - but the raw file reveals a lot of manipulation of the pixels to correct distortion etc. My friend Gordon Laing at canerlabs’s video will be out on the lens this afternoon also.
I also reviewed the 24-105’s and the similar price might be explained when you compare the optical quality.
th-cam.com/video/ySzMkQ0Sjik/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, yeah, I watch some of Gordon Laing's stuff, well, in truth I just cherry-pick content that's relevant to my current interests, I had a 24-105 [first edition] and sold it as part of my move to the "prime sandwich" and the jury is still out as to whether I will get another, although the MK II and RF versions seem to have dealt with some of the issues the MK 1 had, I think it is a great walkaround range though, so I may get one if I see decent used one at a more palatable price, lens choice is almost always a compromise, zoom is convenient but you can lose quality and prime usually has the quality but you lose the convenience.
I shoot raw and I'm always a bit suspicious of wide lenses with such a tiny front element, I think the 16mm is probably a no for me, I think I'd be disappointed with it, but I'm sure there are people that it would suit very well.
Ben did you rebuild that fence to straighten it up?? ;-)
No, it’s still a bit off! I should leave DIY to the professionals, or film elsewhere!
It doesn't really matter how your lens looks on the camera .. it's not like your camera is going to a fashion show is it ?
hi Ben, i do like ur video and i wonder if the 'is' functions on old ef lenses can fit well on Eos R, could u please test that? thx 🙏
Hello. Yes the Stabilisation on the lenses work just the same as they do on a DSLR, with the added benefit that the Eos R has sensor digital stabilisation also. I have tested the 24-105, 70-200, 100mm macro and 100-400 EF lenses on the Eos R and the stabilisation works just fine. The same as they would on a DSLR.
Does the adapter works with 3rd party lenses like tamron?
Hi Vincent, I have only tried it with a Sigma lens and that worked. Providing that it’s an EF or EF-S mount it will work but I don’t know about performance.
I’m on the same boat as you. I own several of the EF L series lenses. I was thinking 🤔... now what... should I sell them all to replace them with RF ones... What pain in a butt 😂 Well I’m glad I didn’t as they still classy, beautiful glass. They might become vintage one day who knows like a Rolleiflex. Yes, ascetically the camera might look like a Frankenstein with all the different pieces but the photos speak for themselves not the tools. Great video. All the best 🙂
100% agree. I point out the aesthetics of using EF lenses on a newer camera because it will really big some people. I would also expect EF lenses to start dropping in price - but right now I don’t see any of them being a bargain?!? I still have all of my EF glass and it works great on the EOS R. Too painful on the wallet to do a complete switch to RF lens line up.
Yes, you’re right - too expensive to replace them all and you can’t keep up with technology sometimes as there will be always something better on the horizon.
I remembered buying brand new EF L 70-200mm 2.8 IS USM mk1 a while ago. After 2 months of owning it Canon released improved mk2 version. I got so hyped about new image charts that I sold my Mk1 version and lost money really (because was already considered second hand), yet I had to save up for the new one as it was ridiculously expensive. Was that really worth it... perhaps for the image quality but not for my wallet 😂.
I might buy 1 or 2 RF L lens in the near future but for now I’m happy with what I got.
I have the RF 35mm f1.8 and the 50mm 1.8 RF. They are relatively ‘cheap’ and feel well balanced on the EOS R. I don’t feel the need right now to replace all of my other L series lenses for a minor improvement upon image quality.
so if i had an ef 70-200 mark iii and put it on say an r6 or r1, with an adapter. Would it be wider than it would be on my 90d? since on my 90d its equal to like a 110-260 mm, and an rf 70-200 would be wider. Also does it effect light transmission or aperture?
Hi Adam, yes it would be wider if you mount it on a full frame camera, whether native DSLR or via an adaptor on a mirrorless camera. If you are shooting wildlife then there is benefit in using a cropped camera, otherwise you will get the most out of any EF lens by putting it on a full frame camera. I don’t think it would have any influence upon light transmission, because the adaptor doesn’t have any glass in it, it’s just a while to create the same distance for a mirrorless camera that the mirror used to occupy. You will see a difference in aperture if you use a converter (1.4 or 2x for example) as this loses you light. The aperture on the lens stays the same whether it is on a full frame or cropped camera, however the depth of field would be greater on a full frame camera. That part is complicated.
@@benharveyphotography awesome, I appreciate it. I’m investing in an ef 70-200 and once I transition to mirrorless, I’ll adapt to my rf mount. I feel as though for shooting sports indoors, 70-200 on an aps-c can be difficult
Making it possible to use EF lenses on a RF body is a boon for Canon customers. I'm almost 100% RF (still missing a 300mm f/2.8 and a 35L II equivalent) and have no regrets. But it is expensive and not for everyone. Meanwhile the R6 and R5 bring huge improvements for Canon shooters due to the combination of IBIS, eye AF and better sensors. Good time to be a Canon shooter.
I wish they did make all of my lenses in the RF mount, and I could justify the extra cost. I appreciate the innovation of the smaller 70-200 and the ability to control other functions on the lens with the control ring - but I struggle to justify replacing lenses that I am already very happy with.
can i fit a canon 2x converter between r adapter and my canon 24 x105 lens
Hi Bill, in theory yes as all of the fixing types are in the correct order, but I have never done it to say whether it will perform well. The adaptors are going to make the setup quite long and front heavy also. Depends what you are looking to achieve, but I have used and reviewed the RF 24-105 (both versions) and compared it to the EF version on an adaptor and I would choose the RF version every time. The cheapest 24-105 with variable aperture is actually my choice out of those three, very light and has optical stabilisation.
what adapter do you use for adapting ef lens to canon mirrorless camera?
Hi Jaruka - I have the standard Canon EF to RF adaptor. When I say standard, I mean the one without the built in NDs or the control ring. But they are apparently very hard to get hold of right now.
Thank you very much!
No problem.
Ben, this is exactly the review that I was looking for.
My question to myself was will my old EX glass work well on the r6 or r5 with the control ring? I'm talking about and quick focus. I use mainly a 50 1.2, 16-35mm and a 100mm macro. (also a 100-200 2.5 version 2, which I hardly ever use).
Hello! Glad you liked the video. By control ring I assume that you mean the EF to Rf adaptor with has the additional ring on it? I have tried that one unfortunately but I did use my 100mm L macro on the R6 and the focusing was much quicker than I had previously experienced. Whichever camera you are coming from (except a 1dx3) then you will see an improvement in focusing on the R6 and R5. It’s all going in the right direction!
@@benharveyphotography - Thanks Ben. The camera that I'll move FROM is a 5Dlll.
@@hom296 that’s the camera that I came from. Depending upon which mirrorless camera you go with, the only thing that the EOS R was lacking from the 5d3 was the speed (frame rate). It’s definitely not for sports and it sometimes struggles to keep up with my kids running around. The R5 end R6 will handle whatever you throw at them. They have very high frame rates and the focusing system of the 1dx - so for stills they are very impressive. I haven’t yet decided if I will upgrade....
I’m a Nikon Z6 shooter and have a similar problem. The new Z mount lens look amazing but are way too expensive. But on the flip side it’s a great time to buy used F mount lens
How do the Nikon lenses perform and look when adapted on the new mirrorless bodies?
Hi Ben - fantastic video, just what I was after - some reassurance before I bit the bullet and bagged an R6! By the way, got a great laugh out of your OCD comment, great to know I am not alone there haha!!! Seriously though thanks a million and I hope you get great joy from your RF 35mm!
Thanks Stephen - and you might have seen that the RF 50mm f1.8 is on its way!