Jim was the sound. They were still great without him, but in 1990-1993, they were unstoppable, all eyes were on them and they were meant to go on to lead rock music into the future with a limitless legacy. Instead, we got a great, and at moments, excellent band.
Yeah they kinda lost track , all albums whit jim even angel dust had that fnm sound but since kfad the band lost the original sound is not a really bad thing but is was a big change
Jim had his place but he was a pretty limited guitarist, really, both in terms of playing and imagination. Pointless for him to stay when the others where branching out. He hated Angel Dust and supposedly doesn't even play on the whole thing.
@@momomin6814 i think they never tried to talk to jim about it , and jim never talk to them about it plus he never really get alone whit the band i think puffy like him , always when he said something about jim he seems happy about that , like it was a good moment but the others not so much especially billy
@@momomin6814 bill the bass player manipulated everyone to get him out, I don't doubt he even sabotaged the recording of guitar parts somehow in order to get a certain reaction from Jim and the others side with him... people like that scare the shit out of me...
It's a shame but they were in the same band and at the same time they were in different bands! They fit but didn't click. Fantastic musicians both of them.
If they only could stuck together, they both were never better as they played together. All things patton did were great, but big Jim is the missing link
@hootyhaha no dude i'm talking about him making fun of his peers. Even Metallica for instance who were big promoters of FNM in the early years. Or Rage Against the Machine who are good friends of Tool(who Fantomas are friends with). Its just strange he doesnt seem to care who has connections to who he will make fun of anyone.
@hootyhaha he was alot different. he didn't used to make fun of bands as much and was a bit less outspoken. If you watch newer interviews with him he's different than he is in this one or the other ones from this era.
@codebabe How did he used to be as a person? He was young and weird back then. Now he's old and weird. What's the difference? But he's the only one of all of them that has kept his youthful look.
The video was remove before because it didn't match the Billy Gould's Guidelines for History Keeping LOOOL People are not supposed to find out that Jim Martin was actually a cool guy and was SACKED off the band he helped built...
Yep. Was Billy. Know as fact he wanted more of his funky bass and cut out Jim's guitar riffs and parts more and more..he turned a young impressionable Mike against Jim too.
@@nicethings2070 Yeah. It is. You know I wish that they'd get together privately, now in their mature years and talk about those times..where things were full on for Mike, he was torn in a few directions both musically and privately, with being on the road for so long and his first love and commitment to MB, he married way too young and hastily without quite "knowing" eachother in the ways needed for marriage...and just to finally forgive eachother and themselves for their mistakes made in crazy times. I hope they do.
I think Martin was just to lazy. Patton is a high level musician. Its top notch. Martin was just like. Lets have fun. Smoke pot. I got this easy guitar riff we can make a hit song off. It will end in argument at the end
@codebabe no i have to agree, he was so cute and funny, now he goes around with this cynical smirk and doesn't seem as fun and laid back, still love him but he's not the same
@codebabe consider the progression of where music has gone. Back then there were a ton of great bands. There were fewer bad bands in the spotlight than there were good bands. NOW. there's not a lot of talent anymore. So many new bands today have to cover songs from the 60s, 70s, and 80s to have anything worth playing. Every rock band today sounds exactly the same. Some whiney kid brought up in the suburbs emo'ing about how much life sucks and how much you should care for his porblems. :)
Anyone in their right minds, upon visiting the UK, would think that in fact it is its own separate thing... There's so much more to do, so much more stuff happening... And fewer scammers and lazy people that do nothing
You were in this comment section complain over and over again about Mike. You dont even know him as person ore in a personal way anyway. Stop being so butthurt.
Yeah, what an ungrateful POS having Jim kicked out after he gave him a shot, all he does is yell or pose, i never bought any more FNM after Jim was gone anyway.
Animosity? What animosity? All I see is two dudes talking... people are so so eager to fully believe in the bass player's stories, huh? gullible people... usually the masses are like that, like cattle... push them this way, now push them that way... keep playing your part in the world's hierarchy LOOOL moooooooooo HaHaHaHaHa
@@FeelingShred It is well known they didn't quite gel. And at toward the end of the Angel Dust tour..I spent time with them in Australia and yeah there was a lot of side eyes and a definite friction between Mike and Jim. But also fun too. We all had a laugh down a local park at almost midnight. I went out to a steakhouse with Jim..he's a great guy. Mike was love.ly
@bzagar1 Well you sound like you don`t know anything about the band. You sound like someone who has never heard anything passed "The Real Thing" and probably thinks they were a one hit wonder...listen to 'Angel Dust", far different then the early stuff.
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So thankful that I got to see them with Jim on the Angel Dust tour in Grand Rapids, MI, with Helmet opening. 16 bucks. Jim was their best guitarist.
Jim was the sound. They were still great without him, but in 1990-1993, they were unstoppable, all eyes were on them and they were meant to go on to lead rock music into the future with a limitless legacy. Instead, we got a great, and at moments, excellent band.
Yeah they kinda lost track , all albums whit jim even angel dust had that fnm sound but since kfad the band lost the original sound is not a really bad thing but is was a big change
Jim had his place but he was a pretty limited guitarist, really, both in terms of playing and imagination. Pointless for him to stay when the others where branching out. He hated Angel Dust and supposedly doesn't even play on the whole thing.
Jim,their best and my favorite guitarist 😍
yup, he got shit on around Angel Dust, shame as he was a big part of their sound.
@@stupidusername38 yeah man that is so true even in a song like middle crisis the guitar is a big part of the song
Yeah, it’s a shame he and the rest of the band got along so badly.
Actually it looks like Mike and Jim were getting along ok together at this point. Jim was a real chill dude as I recall
arklowrockz I read somewhere that Mike caused the exit of Martin, he was a bit of a dick to Jim
@@vannessarangel44 Mike didnt have any power in FNM. That was actually Billy. The problem was between Billy and Jim or more JHim vs the rest.
@@momomin6814 i think they never tried to talk to jim about it , and jim never talk to them about it plus he never really get alone whit the band i think puffy like him , always when he said something about jim he seems happy about that , like it was a good moment but the others not so much especially billy
@@momomin6814 bill the bass player manipulated everyone to get him out, I don't doubt he even sabotaged the recording of guitar parts somehow in order to get a certain reaction from Jim and the others side with him... people like that scare the shit out of me...
@@FeelingShred that true even to this day bill is the only guy in the band that doesn't like the idea of him back for a show
It's a shame but they were in the same band and at the same time they were in different bands! They fit but didn't click.
Fantastic musicians both of them.
Ah back in the day when they got along. Jim is the guitar sound of the band, miss him althou Jon copies his tone and parts 1:1 it still aint the same
I just got transported back in time! Used to have this on tape. Watched The Power Hour and Raw Power all the time!
@astroswon yeah me too, it's nice to see a video where jim and mike don't hate each other yet, they're actually having fun together
I thought Patton doing that mic breathing whilst Jim's talking was more mean attitude towards him.
Jim Martin joined Infectious Grooves recently
What's that? A skin rash? Not an ear infection, right?
@@NobodyCaresALot F for Fake.
@@DuspHasInfluenza I've used that joke before. Sometimes, I think it has even applied to me.. I was just kidding, by the way.
If they only could stuck together, they both were never better as they played together. All things patton did were great, but big Jim is the missing link
im pretty sure my mum watched raw power! she must have seen this, she loooves faith no more and so do i!
@hootyhaha no dude i'm talking about him making fun of his peers. Even Metallica for instance who were big promoters of FNM in the early years. Or Rage Against the Machine who are good friends of Tool(who Fantomas are friends with). Its just strange he doesnt seem to care who has connections to who he will make fun of anyone.
These guys have always been awesome, Chuck was a good singer but mike is an amazing person in all ways
@hootyhaha he was alot different. he didn't used to make fun of bands as much and was a bit less outspoken. If you watch newer interviews with him he's different than he is in this one or the other ones from this era.
Mike reminds me of Bruce Campbell. I think it's the chin and eyes.
enough patton. where is big jim martin. he a total ripper of a guitar. I wish he would put a project together.
eh, he grew up sorta you know? haha he was 22 haha, hes 44 now, hes still insane and has "wtf" moments haha
@codebabe How did he used to be as a person? He was young and weird back then. Now he's old and weird. What's the difference? But he's the only one of all of them that has kept his youthful look.
"But the switch is not there!"
"Big beds"
"Way less showers"
"Sometimes you do it because you hate the crowd"
Bahaha
he look like vanilla ice with them lines in his fro
The video was remove before because it didn't match the Billy Gould's Guidelines for History Keeping LOOOL People are not supposed to find out that Jim Martin was actually a cool guy and was SACKED off the band he helped built...
How do you know billy got it removed lmao
Don't know bout Billy doin it. Maybe Roddy..but yeah the rest is most likely true...hmmm
Yep. Was Billy. Know as fact he wanted more of his funky bass and cut out Jim's guitar riffs and parts more and more..he turned a young impressionable Mike against Jim too.
@@Gigi1111Layna Sweet seeing Jim and Mike here together. Before Mike got corrupted.
@@nicethings2070 Yeah. It is. You know I wish that they'd get together privately, now in their mature years and talk about those times..where things were full on for Mike, he was torn in a few directions both musically and privately, with being on the road for so long and his first love and commitment to MB, he married way too young and hastily without quite "knowing" eachother in the ways needed for marriage...and just to finally forgive eachother and themselves for their mistakes made in crazy times. I hope they do.
Angel dust was the last of what Jim could do....he didn't have another album in him.
Patton disrespecting Jim as usual then trades on his riffs after bitchily kicking him out.
5:05 WTF!
I think Martin was just to lazy. Patton is a high level musician. Its top notch. Martin was just like. Lets have fun. Smoke pot. I got this easy guitar riff we can make a hit song off. It will end in argument at the end
I am not to sure about that , he compose a big part of zombie eaters , jizzlober , suprise you're dead that are not your usual generic song
why did mike hate the 49ners
@codebabe no i have to agree, he was so cute and funny, now he goes around with this cynical smirk and doesn't seem as fun and laid back, still love him but he's not the same
@codebabe Oh I got ya... maybe it's an inside badgering / joke between band mates? Like friends giving each other a hard time? I dunno...
@codebabe consider the progression of where music has gone. Back then there were a ton of great bands. There were fewer bad bands in the spotlight than there were good bands.
NOW. there's not a lot of talent anymore. So many new bands today have to cover songs from the 60s, 70s, and 80s to have anything worth playing. Every rock band today sounds exactly the same. Some whiney kid brought up in the suburbs emo'ing about how much life sucks and how much you should care for his porblems. :)
0:35 song?
From out of nowhere
Mike didn't treat Jim very well. But what are you gonna do?
+Ben Wherlock Have inferior albums after. That's what you do. Still good, but dang, what could've been.
Mike was a anoying kid
Bit him in the ass later when Kiedis more or less did the same to Mike and his band
@codebabe Why is that?
12:46 57.
Carry stress in the jaw
Jim Martin sounds EXACTLY like George Lucas. Exactly.
Funny how Jim doesn't realise he makes it sound like the UK isn't a part of Europe :)
Anyone in their right minds, upon visiting the UK, would think that in fact it is its own separate thing... There's so much more to do, so much more stuff happening... And fewer scammers and lazy people that do nothing
RAIDERS Baby
I understand, but really, what else did you expect? I just want to know, for the sake of fiction fate.
I'm going to get a thumbs down for this for sure, but i honestly miss the way Mike used to be as a person.
the beauty about thumbs down is that you never see it
You were in this comment section complain over and over again about Mike. You dont even know him as person ore in a personal way anyway. Stop being so butthurt.
You don't know him in person. Stop talking bullshit, pal
Yeah, what an ungrateful POS having Jim kicked out after he gave him a shot, all he does is yell or pose, i never bought any more FNM after Jim was gone anyway.
Killer laugh @ 3:31 Loololololololol
Did them hate each other?
Don't get confused. Jim and Mike have animosity here but it's easily managed by you: Perceptive Audiene
Animosity? What animosity? All I see is two dudes talking... people are so so eager to fully believe in the bass player's stories, huh? gullible people... usually the masses are like that, like cattle... push them this way, now push them that way... keep playing your part in the world's hierarchy LOOOL moooooooooo HaHaHaHaHa
@@FeelingShred It is well known they didn't quite gel. And at toward the end of the Angel Dust tour..I spent time with them in Australia and yeah there was a lot of side eyes and a definite friction between Mike and Jim. But also fun too. We all had a laugh down a local park at almost midnight. I went out to a steakhouse with Jim..he's a great guy. Mike was love.ly
Mike Anselmo))
@bzagar1 Well you sound like you don`t know anything about the band. You sound like someone who has never heard anything passed "The Real Thing" and probably thinks they were a one hit wonder...listen to 'Angel Dust", far different then the early stuff.
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I fuckin hate Patton but love FNM
That's just stupid - Patton helped take them onto better things.