SGC Dialogue with Professor Kishore Mahbubani: The future of US-China relations - Has China Won? Link to full original video : • SGC Dialogue with Prof...
Prof Kishore Mahbubani’s enlightened remark is straight to the point. After almost two centuries of humiliation by the Europeans and the Japanese, today’s China is like a volcano ready to erupt at any moment. But as Chinese ancient philosophers millennial ago had taught the Chinese to be peace loving (和平共处), magnanimous （己所不欲 勿施于人), and patience is a virtue (百忍成金) etc. they have by far stomached the repeated US military instigations in the South China Sea. But the ancient philosophers had also taught them that if you can tolerate no more, just do it (忍不尽忍 即为之）。 US economy is fast declining. An inescapable fate which a war mongering nation would definitely suffer. This had similarly happened far too many times to a unified China since year 211 BC and even two thousand years earlier to that to various fragmented Chinese nations. Western nations are wise to pull out their moles from Hong Kong three years ago when their sabotaged acts failed to subvert China through Hong Kong. Xinjiang and Taiwan are the latest remnant cards which the Japanese and the Western politicians are trying their hands at to subvert China. No Islamic states has ever supported the Christian West’s (who had killed millions of Muslims) accusations of Xinjiang Uighur Muslims being tortured. Taiwan was ceded to Japan in year 1895 when China was down and out. It’s a serious symbol of humiliation to China which would definitely take it back, comes what may. Chairman Mao had said sovereignty is not negotiable, not even a threat could be tolerated. Hence even the new China was poor in 1951, they fought bravely and gallantly against the 14-nation UN alliance army led by the US whose Commander-in-Chief had said China would not dare to join in even their northern border towns with North Korea were bombed by the US bombers. Eventually China sent in almost a million troops and finally defeated the invincible US troops who had to beg for truce and settled in a peace talk.
China's century of humiliation is best summarized in a passage in Mencius, "thus when Tian is going to give a great responsibility to someone, it first makes his mind endure suffering. It makes his sinews and bones experience toil, and his body to suffer hunger. It inflicts him with poverty and knocks down everything he tries to build. In this way Tian stimulates his mind, stabilizes his temper and develops his weak points."
The CCP caused more harm to the Chinese people than the century of humiliation that caused harm to the foreign Manchu dynasty. Mao basically thanked the Europeans for making the evil Wing dynasty weak. Kishore apparently has not read Mao's writing on the Qing dynasty. Kishore can only fool the ignorant westerners and not the Chinese people.
@@everythingandmore5537 the ccp has lifted poverty in their country. How did that harm their people any more than the misery caused by the domination of the west over them in the past?? How has the west contributed positively to its own people? Democracy and so called freedoms are just words, when its peoples are kept in control by their ignorance and fear. How is it better than the ccp governance?
@@everythingandmore5537 look at what Europe and America did in Middle East...Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Iran.... sanction, bomb that have killed millions of people... but still Western people say but they have FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY now..... hahaha....sick...
That’s the biggest lie!! Chinese people in China are happy with the CCP. Look at China’s infrastructures, high speed rail, technology,military,space, standard of living,education, health care, property, billionaires, millionaires,trade, and status internationally. How can you don’t see that.
@@ohmikesroh5904 In 1949 china was a medium size economic powerhouse. There was no one dying of starvation in china. Mao managed to create 850 million starving people in china. Once Mao was gone the Chinese people lifted themselves out of poverty. Get rid of the CCP.
Fast forward history , Middle East always comes to mind. One just has to check & study to see the whole picture. The WEST HYPOCRICY is truly IMPRESSIVE. Greetings from S'pore.
Exactly.. the west like to divide and conquer in the name of "democracy and freedom".... never change after so many years. Their supposedly "free and open media" often mislead even their own people and often have double standards. To them the world is a zero sum game... Which country actually have improvement in their standard of living after "democracy and freedom" was introduced to them i wonder? Afghanistan? Iraq? lol
They will forget because history books are being cooked in Europe, USA and Japan. The education department in those countries do not want their people to know the truth.
The most unfortunate thing about his speech is that those who should listen don’t bother to listen - at their own peril. Maybe they will live to see their comeuppance. Maybe their next generation.
@@cheepengang7962 The US assumes it owns every part of the globe, hence its thinking is zero sum. So a negotiated settlement is better than living in ashes. But it does require a change of mindset from the US.
@@cheepengang7962 They won't. The US has never been held accountable for their atrocities. They get to go home with their still erect restaurants and go to brunch after decimating other countries. Uncle Sam would have to be shot dead before they learn that with great power comes great responsibility. And even then I highly doubt they have that kind of self reflection.
From Singapore. Never tired listening to Prof Kishore M about geopolitics. He should to be the PM after LKY but sadly he is not interested in seeking office.
Yes. Year 1860 is not very distant from now and the ruins of the Summer Palace are still standing in the western part of Beijing. What are those sanctions imposed by EU in comparison with the scale of humiliation brought on the Chinese by the imperialist forces for almost two centuries? Are the western nations and Japan thinking that they can do anything they like on the Chinese soil, such as hanging a notice saying "Dogs and Chinese are not allowed into the park" and trying to yank Taiwan out of the Chinese territory, they will surely resurface the latent and vociferous feeling of humiliation of the Chinese. What had the West to the Chinese people when they suffered with human right under the Manchu emperors? What did the British do for democracy in Hong Kongers under their rule? Only now, they talk about human rights and abuses in Xinjiang (which are maliciously fabricated for political purposes) and freedom and democracy in Hong Kong? Do reflect on your past deeds before pointing your finger, my dear descendents of the imperialists.
Human rights is a BS concept from the west. Their countries are in slumps with eroding social values. Education levels are dipping, poverty rising.. Is that freedom and human rights? Nah, i take a single party govt like China and Singapore anytime.
I think the Europeans forgot about what they did to us mainly because we aren't blaming them nor thinking that they owe us anything. "Barbarians" do what barbarians always do. The Century of Humiliation happened because we were weak and failed to reform and opening up. Every sanction the West imposed reminded us that the "Barbarians" will do what barbarians always do, and we are still weak, therefore we must continue to reform and opening up.
Very true. Although today China knows European countries don’t have independent thinkings, so China really only deals with US, and European countries are just chess pieces played by both China and US
The west have lot of independent thinker because of free speech and rule of law. But many will follow the US because of their strong historical influence on their country.
@@len2063 Independent thinkings should lead to independent policies, policies that are actually protecting your own interests. Do you see it happen? I don’t
The EU as it works today is basically an American project. There's a reason why the French call the Brits "Perfidious Albion", and the Americans as sons of the Brits and legacy holders of the British empire should be known as "Perfidious Albion 2.0". European countries ought to do themselves a favor by regaining both their sovereignty and dignity through the removal of the Anglo-Saxon influence from the continent and by reforming the EU project to be more like ASEAN.
@@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 EU is a project started by US to prevent the countries make war against each other. It have worked quite well and even China got access of new technologies and lifted their living standard.
Great, insightful comments, especially regarding China's attitude relative to the 'century of humiliation'. The US either doesn't understand it or choses to ignore it and China's reaction, probably to their peril.
The funny thing is that the European thought it was the same as America and had power to sanction other countries while not knowing it was also a chess of the US.
As Always Kishore is absolutely RIGHT . But the west has to pay for it’s sins - causes created it the past . Karma is a bitch . It always ,ALWAYS comes back to bite you . It might skip a generation or two, but surely pays a visit . We have already seeing how the west is getting degraded .Their native population is paying a price for their forefathers evil deeds . This is just the beginning . They can lessen their Karmic retribution by acknowledging China , respecting China & pray for forgiveness for their forefathers sins . But if they don’t,China is already driving the bus and the bus won’t stop to PICK UP the west .😎
@@fromtheoutside37 do you mean to say that since Mao killed more Chinese by his failed agri plans than the colonialists, the latter is absolved from any wrong doing? If you raped a woman twice but someone did it thrice, then you are less of a sinner? That’s how you see things?
At least my logic is on the right side . More so China haters who cannot digest the fact will come up with anything to keep their beliefs alive . For them , beliefs have no place ,where truth is concerned . And the truth is China has won . 😜
Yes, indeed i also believe very much it is the beginning. China is still in defensive as it is their long term policy. I wonder what would happen if ever China was 'forced' into offensive towards some provocative states although unlikely.
@@112313 Sorry to say, even if usa studied Chinese history, usa will still need more than just history to understand Chinese China created Gun powder, Russia and China will end what usa had created from the form of gun powder
Ask the European Union and the United States of America, are their economy policies always right to lead the world? China can be a better / alternative policies to correct what was done wrong by the European Union and the US. Recession in the 1990' and 2008 are was mainly caused by the Western nations and the US, as their CEO becomes too greedy
As of late April 2024, the investment agreement between the EU and China has not been renewed. China is increasingly feeling the pressure of now international sanctions and trade barriers through decreased economic performance. Its economy is feeling the strain.
Google " Yuanmingyuan - the Old Summer Palace of Qing Dynasty ". The Chinese never rebuild the Palace. They left it as it is to remind them of what had happened.....
Unfortunately, the Russian & Chinese "imperialist" card keeps EU toeing US lines. Together, they can extract more concessions from the rest of the world.
North west of China . Its huge very beautiful mixed Turkish decendant during the silk road time. Do you know the native of Xinjiang has better benifits than the normal Chinese.?? I think every country will prosecute its terrorist if they bomb or harm civilian. Go n visit n live in Xinjiang to know the truth. Dont believe in western propoganda to discredited China .
Let me put it in this perspective the Jews had thier holocaust in WWII they still have vivid memories of it 70 plus yrs ago & even hundreds of yrs will past it will be with them for thousand yrs. Consequently, the Century of humiliation that the Chinese had suffered is the same...that will remind the Chinese for a thousand yrs. That how the Chinese feel.
Western countries did a great deal of inhuman rights things toward the world. Yet they talk about human rights all the time. I don't know why they have the guts to do that. People are throwing up after listen to their human rights talks. Some how they Never notice that.
No mention of the EU- China spate over Lithuania. Also EU complains of limited Market access and non reprecocity. Kishore just spouts some anti-American rhetoric and century of humiliation. So we are to blame today for what happened over a hundred years ago. The world has changed after two world wars. The west has learned about giving in to autocratic regimes. As Kishore eludes to, have a dialogue with China. CCP definition of dialogue is we talk you listen.
Please give up your colonial/imperialistic mindset. Seems like you have not heard a word of what Mr. Mahbhubani has said? Yes, European countries need to take the blame for what happened over a hundred years ago, especially if they are still behaving the same way - not respecting other nations' sovereignty, right to choose their own form of governance, right to development, right to defend their land and ensure security, etc. etc. Lithuania violated the One China Policy. Lithuania and western nations keep trying to divide China, which is an evil and immoral act. We have only one world and humanity needs cooperation, not confrontation; Peace, not War!!!
The world actually hasn't changed that much, despite two world wars. The west is still acting like a bunch of fascistic colonial masters. Back in the day you couldn't pay up the silver for Chinese tea and so in your greed you forced two opium wars upon China to open up their market to your opium trash and looting; today you once again can't pay up for Made in China products and so you once again beat the drums of war in the hopes of opening China up for looting through excessive privatization (as you did in Russia during the days of Yeltsin), because you have nothing else to offer that the Chinese want or need.
@@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 You have highlighted my point very well. China doesn't see the world wars as important. China played a minor part in winning them but suffered hugely in WW2 maybe the country that suffered the most) China see's the world when she was No1. A world of Empires and china wants to be the biggest.
@@Andy-P By population China IS the biggest, hence it's only natural that economically China is also biggest in order to feed and clothe its population, which was the case in the past and will also be the case again in the future. The west trying to prevent that is the west still acting in the exact same imperialist way as you did in the colonial past, which is to keep other peoples underdeveloped and oppressed in order to loot them blind, because that is the only way a minority can rule with an iron fist over the majority. The west has proven that it hasn't changed one bit despite two world wars, hence why China's worldview, which reflects the unchanged reality it exists in, also didn't change.
@@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 What hasn't changed is the thucydides trap. Yes America is trying to stop China's rise. America is trying to get it's allies to help. Some are like Australia are. Some are not like Germany. CCP wolf warrior is helping America a lot. Be interesting what happens with Lithuania. If China wins it will be a big win. Proves it can force the EU to do what china wants.
China should stop be so upset for what happen 160 years ago. Some colonial power kicked China in some wars but they did they same to each other in many wars. Live and forgive.
They could if the west stop trying to interfere in China internal affair. They could if the west stop putting out fake news to demonize them. If you want them to forgive, first let them live.
@@len2063 china putting out fake news? You have to watch their news. Its boring, they just throw out the news as is reported by the west 😂 I wish they learn from the west.
Prof Kishore Mahbubani’s enlightened remark is straight to the point. After almost two centuries of humiliation by the Europeans and the Japanese, today’s China is like a volcano ready to erupt at any moment. But as Chinese ancient philosophers millennial ago had taught the Chinese to be peace loving (和平共处), magnanimous （己所不欲 勿施于人), and patience is a virtue (百忍成金) etc. they have by far stomached the repeated US military instigations in the South China Sea.
But the ancient philosophers had also taught them that if you can tolerate no more, just do it (忍不尽忍 即为之）。
US economy is fast declining. An inescapable fate which a war mongering nation would definitely suffer. This had similarly happened far too many times to a unified China since year 211 BC and even two thousand years earlier to that to various fragmented Chinese nations.
Western nations are wise to pull out their moles from Hong Kong three years ago when their sabotaged acts failed to subvert China through Hong Kong. Xinjiang and Taiwan are the latest remnant cards which the Japanese and the Western politicians are trying their hands at to subvert China. No Islamic states has ever supported the Christian West’s (who had killed millions of Muslims) accusations of Xinjiang Uighur Muslims being tortured.
Taiwan was ceded to Japan in year 1895 when China was down and out. It’s a serious symbol of humiliation to China which would definitely take it back, comes what may. Chairman Mao had said sovereignty is not negotiable, not even a threat could be tolerated. Hence even the new China was poor in 1951, they fought bravely and gallantly against the 14-nation UN alliance army led by the US whose Commander-in-Chief had said China would not dare to join in even their northern border towns with North Korea were bombed by the US bombers. Eventually China sent in almost a million troops and finally defeated the invincible US troops who had to beg for truce and settled in a peace talk.
China's century of humiliation is best summarized in a passage in Mencius, "thus when Tian is going to give a great responsibility to someone, it first makes his mind endure suffering. It makes his sinews and bones experience toil, and his body to suffer hunger. It inflicts him with poverty and knocks down everything he tries to build. In this way Tian stimulates his mind, stabilizes his temper and develops his weak points."
Thank you professor Mahbubani for telling the world that China will not be bullied again.
The CCP caused more harm to the Chinese people than the century of humiliation that caused harm to the foreign Manchu dynasty. Mao basically thanked the Europeans for making the evil Wing dynasty weak. Kishore apparently has not read Mao's writing on the Qing dynasty. Kishore can only fool the ignorant westerners and not the Chinese people.
@@everythingandmore5537 the ccp has lifted poverty in their country. How did that harm their people any more than the misery caused by the domination of the west over them in the past?? How has the west contributed positively to its own people? Democracy and so called freedoms are just words, when its peoples are kept in control by their ignorance and fear. How is it better than the ccp governance?
@@everythingandmore5537 look at what Europe and America did in Middle East...Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Iran.... sanction, bomb that have killed millions of people... but still Western people say but they have FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY now..... hahaha....sick...
That’s the biggest lie!! Chinese people in China are happy with the CCP. Look at China’s infrastructures, high speed rail, technology,military,space, standard of living,education, health care, property, billionaires, millionaires,trade, and status internationally. How can you don’t see that.
@@ohmikesroh5904 In 1949 china was a medium size economic powerhouse. There was no one dying of starvation in china. Mao managed to create 850 million starving people in china. Once Mao was gone the Chinese people lifted themselves out of poverty. Get rid of the CCP.
Fast forward history , Middle East always comes to mind. One just has to check & study to see the whole picture. The WEST HYPOCRICY is truly IMPRESSIVE. Greetings from S'pore.
It always come in their mind to ripe off Middle East's oil by rising endless wars.
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@@lisa.e5776 The same thing they want out the Middle East, they also want of Xinjiang. Sow chaos and then steal the oil and gas.
Exactly.. the west like to divide and conquer in the name of "democracy and freedom".... never change after so many years. Their supposedly "free and open media" often mislead even their own people and often have double standards. To them the world is a zero sum game... Which country actually have improvement in their standard of living after "democracy and freedom" was introduced to them i wonder? Afghanistan? Iraq? lol
Can't never trust the west. They used you and later abandon you.
Never ever forget history
They will forget because history books are being cooked in Europe, USA and Japan. The education department in those countries do not want their people to know the truth.
Ok
Very good Professor Kishohre Mahbubani on explaining to EU about China 🇨🇳
You are absolutely right sir... Salute
Well said professor!
French and English troops not only burned the Summer Palace, they looted large volume of treasures.
It is only a matter of time both will return looted gold, silver and antiquity.
Amazing …Kishore remarkable depth and understanding on china and the way he replied and explained to western folks .
The most unfortunate thing about his speech is that those who should listen don’t bother to listen - at their own peril. Maybe they will live to see their comeuppance. Maybe their next generation.
The Europeans are compliant in taking the BS put out by ASPI and Adrian zenz, getting on the wrong side of the us geopolitical tussle with China.
@@altbinhax apart from making money out of China, why would they want China to win the Cold War started by the US?
@@cheepengang7962 The US assumes it owns every part of the globe, hence its thinking is zero sum. So a negotiated settlement is better than living in ashes. But it does require a change of mindset from the US.
@@altbinhax why would they want to change their mindset?
@@cheepengang7962 They won't. The US has never been held accountable for their atrocities. They get to go home with their still erect restaurants and go to brunch after decimating other countries.
Uncle Sam would have to be shot dead before they learn that with great power comes great responsibility. And even then I highly doubt they have that kind of self reflection.
What a shame on Western Imperialist,shame on you !
From Singapore. Never tired listening to Prof Kishore M about geopolitics. He should to be the PM after LKY but sadly he is not interested in seeking office.
I an a huge Fan of Mr. Mahbubani.
A great mind.
One in a generation.
Yes. Year 1860 is not very distant from now and the ruins of the Summer Palace are still standing in the western part of Beijing. What are those sanctions imposed by EU in comparison with the scale of humiliation brought on the Chinese by the imperialist forces for almost two centuries? Are the western nations and Japan thinking that they can do anything they like on the Chinese soil, such as hanging a notice saying "Dogs and Chinese are not allowed into the park" and trying to yank Taiwan out of the Chinese territory, they will surely resurface the latent and vociferous feeling of humiliation of the Chinese. What had the West to the Chinese people when they suffered with human right under the Manchu emperors? What did the British do for democracy in Hong Kongers under their rule? Only now, they talk about human rights and abuses in Xinjiang (which are maliciously fabricated for political purposes) and freedom and democracy in Hong Kong? Do reflect on your past deeds before pointing your finger, my dear descendents of the imperialists.
.....What had the West done in terms of human rights when the Chinese people suffered under Manchu emperors?
A weak, backwards, disunited and chaotic China is what the West want to see. So, how do you expect West to spread human rights, liberty to China?
@@yl128pang3 Yes, what the west wants from China is just what they have done to China back in WWI and WWII, they want to keep China slave for them.
Human rights is a BS concept from the west. Their countries are in slumps with eroding social values. Education levels are dipping, poverty rising.. Is that freedom and human rights? Nah, i take a single party govt like China and Singapore anytime.
us up
Kishore always make me want to weep, he know China deeply.
Respect you Professor
I think the Europeans forgot about what they did to us mainly because we aren't blaming them nor thinking that they owe us anything.
"Barbarians" do what barbarians always do. The Century of Humiliation happened because we were weak and failed to reform and opening up.
Every sanction the West imposed reminded us that the "Barbarians" will do what barbarians always do, and we are still weak, therefore we must continue to reform and opening up.
Do open up, but don't open up blindly, otherwise they'll dump opium into your country and loot you blind. Strategic opening up is best.
Very true. Although today China knows European countries don’t have independent thinkings, so China really only deals with US, and European countries are just chess pieces played by both China and US
The west have lot of independent thinker because of free speech and rule of law. But many will follow the US because of their strong historical influence on their country.
@@len2063 Independent thinkings should lead to independent policies, policies that are actually protecting your own interests. Do you see it happen? I don’t
The EU as it works today is basically
an American project. There's a reason why the French call the Brits "Perfidious Albion", and the Americans as sons of the Brits and legacy holders of the British empire should be known as "Perfidious Albion 2.0". European countries ought to do themselves a favor by regaining both their sovereignty and dignity through the removal of the Anglo-Saxon influence from the continent and by reforming the EU project to be more like ASEAN.
@@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 EU is a project started by US to prevent the countries make war against each other. It have worked quite well and even China got access of new technologies and lifted their living standard.
我个人想法：没想把现在这些反华的事跟历史联系到一起，但是我作为一个了解过很多西方文化、思想、曾经崇拜西方的人，在了解西方主流媒体、政府及西方人编造事实的情况后，我对西方人及西方媒体，西方政府感到很恶心。我相信这是中国年轻人的趋势，西方人将越来越和无知、愚蠢、落后这些负面词汇联系到一起。而不是批判性思维，严谨，有道德感，发达。
So glad to see that people do wake up.
Hurrah from sg to kishore
Great, insightful comments, especially regarding China's attitude relative to the 'century of humiliation'. The US either doesn't understand it or choses to ignore it and China's reaction, probably to their peril.
US government: I have many dogs inside the EU.
Prof Kishore always shares the truth!
The funny thing is that the European thought it was the same as America and had power to sanction other countries while not knowing it was also a chess of the US.
As Always Kishore is absolutely RIGHT . But the west has to pay for it’s sins - causes created it the past . Karma is a bitch . It always ,ALWAYS comes back to bite you . It might skip a generation or two, but surely pays a visit . We have already seeing how the west is getting degraded .Their native population is paying a price for their forefathers evil deeds . This is just the beginning . They can lessen their Karmic retribution by acknowledging China , respecting China & pray for forgiveness for their forefathers sins . But if they don’t,China is already driving the bus and the bus won’t stop to PICK UP the west .😎
If your talking about sin than the CCP had killed more Chinese than any other countries have ever done , so who is the greater sinner ?
@@fromtheoutside37 do you mean to say that since Mao killed more Chinese by his failed agri plans than the colonialists, the latter is absolved from any wrong doing? If you raped a woman twice but someone did it thrice, then you are less of a sinner? That’s how you see things?
@@wayangpok Probably this is your logic.
At least my logic is on the right side . More so China haters who cannot digest the fact will come up with anything to keep their beliefs alive . For them , beliefs have no place ,where truth is concerned . And the truth is China has won . 😜
@@DK-pw2yq Won what ?
Yes, indeed i also believe very much it is the beginning. China is still in defensive as it is their long term policy. I wonder what would happen if ever China was 'forced' into offensive towards some provocative states although unlikely.
those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it...the western nations would do well to study chinese history to know their thinking.
@@112313 Sorry to say, even if usa studied Chinese history, usa will still need more than just history to understand Chinese
China created Gun powder, Russia and China will end what usa had created from the form of gun powder
Thanks Kishore!
Well said Prof
You are correct sir
I love china , for the commitment to collective growth
Sounds like the west have forgotten Adam Smith.
Louvres in Paris essentially occupied by stolen artifacts
Ask the European Union and the United States of America, are their economy policies always right to lead the world?
China can be a better / alternative policies to correct what was done wrong by the European Union and the US.
Recession in the 1990' and 2008 are was mainly caused by the Western nations and the US, as their CEO becomes too greedy
As of late April 2024, the investment agreement between the EU and China has not been renewed.
China is increasingly feeling the pressure of now international sanctions and trade barriers through decreased economic performance. Its economy is feeling the strain.
I want to see China reaction after German foreign minister from green party take tough position while in diplomatic visit in China.
Google " Yuanmingyuan - the Old Summer Palace of Qing Dynasty ".
The Chinese never rebuild the Palace.
They left it as it is to remind them of what had happened.....
Sadly some people thinks that it is deserving after screwing you, you have to beg for more.
Unfortunately, the Russian & Chinese "imperialist" card keeps EU toeing US lines. Together, they can extract more concessions from the rest of the world.
european politicians can be bought very cheap
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Where is Xinjiang exactly? Without using a digital map.
Come on it's an easy question. On the northern side of china.
@@prasanth2601 Like how you most likely live on the north Northern Hemisphere. Right....
North west of China . Its huge very beautiful mixed Turkish decendant during the silk road time. Do you know the native of Xinjiang has better benifits than the normal Chinese.?? I think every country will prosecute its terrorist if they bomb or harm civilian. Go n visit n live in Xinjiang to know the truth. Dont believe in western propoganda to discredited China .
Kishore is telling the correct thing but not Elmer Yuen talking bullshitting on China
Let me put it in this perspective the Jews had thier holocaust in WWII they still have vivid memories of it 70 plus yrs ago & even hundreds of yrs will past it will be with them for thousand yrs. Consequently, the Century of humiliation that the Chinese had suffered is the same...that will remind the Chinese for a thousand yrs. That how the Chinese feel.
Western countries did a great deal of inhuman rights things toward the world. Yet they talk about human rights all the time.
I don't know why they have the guts to do that. People are throwing up after listen to their human rights talks. Some how they Never notice that.
君子报仇十年为晚
Asia is not your subjects any more. Stop condescending on us. Asia is big enough for own trade.
Kishore, however interesting, is completely confused.
No mention of the EU- China spate over Lithuania. Also EU complains of limited Market access and non reprecocity. Kishore just spouts some anti-American rhetoric and century of humiliation. So we are to blame today for what happened over a hundred years ago. The world has changed after two world wars. The west has learned about giving in to autocratic regimes. As Kishore eludes to, have a dialogue with China. CCP definition of dialogue is we talk you listen.
Please give up your colonial/imperialistic mindset. Seems like you have not heard a word of what Mr. Mahbhubani has said? Yes, European countries need to take the blame for what happened over a hundred years ago, especially if they are still behaving the same way - not respecting other nations' sovereignty, right to choose their own form of governance, right to development, right to defend their land and ensure security, etc. etc. Lithuania violated the One China Policy. Lithuania and western nations keep trying to divide China, which is an evil and immoral act. We have only one world and humanity needs cooperation, not confrontation; Peace, not War!!!
The world actually hasn't changed that much, despite two world wars. The west is still acting like a bunch of fascistic colonial masters. Back in the day you couldn't pay up the silver for Chinese tea and so in your greed you forced two opium wars upon China to open up their market to your opium trash and looting; today you once again can't pay up for Made in China products and so you once again beat the drums of war in the hopes of opening China up for looting through excessive privatization (as you did in Russia during the days of Yeltsin), because you have nothing else to offer that the Chinese want or need.
@@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 You have highlighted my point very well. China doesn't see the world wars as important. China played a minor part in winning them but suffered hugely in WW2 maybe the country that suffered the most) China see's the world when she was No1. A world of Empires and china wants to be the biggest.
@@Andy-P By population China IS the biggest, hence it's only natural that economically China is also biggest in order to feed and clothe its population, which was the case in the past and will also be the case again in the future. The west trying to prevent that is the west still acting in the exact same imperialist way as you did in the colonial past, which is to keep other peoples underdeveloped and oppressed in order to loot them blind, because that is the only way a minority can rule with an iron fist over the majority. The west has proven that it hasn't changed one bit despite two world wars, hence why China's worldview, which reflects the unchanged reality it exists in, also didn't change.
@@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 What hasn't changed is the thucydides trap. Yes America is trying to stop China's rise. America is trying to get it's allies to help. Some are like Australia are. Some are not like Germany. CCP wolf warrior is helping America a lot. Be interesting what happens with Lithuania. If China wins it will be a big win. Proves it can force the EU to do what china wants.
Sorry , but the EU don't take advice from you.
It’s ok.
that‘s ok and it‘s eu loss. But then why invite him in the first place?
@@greentea8852 This guy make a living out of everything China.
@@fromtheoutside37 who doesn‘t? Most of our consumptions are made in China.
@@greentea8852 But the landscape is changing and changing fast
China should stop be so upset for what happen 160 years ago. Some colonial power kicked China in some wars but they did they same to each other in many wars. Live and forgive.
Try being at the receiving end and you will know whether it’s possible to forgive and forget.
They could if the west stop trying to interfere in China internal affair.
They could if the west stop putting out fake news to demonize them.
If you want them to forgive, first let them live.
@@poseidon61 Every country try to influence other countries to gain more power. China doing the same.
@@wayangpok Time heal any wound but not if you scratch your self.
@@len2063 china putting out fake news? You have to watch their news. Its boring, they just throw out the news as is reported by the west 😂
I wish they learn from the west.