New Balance UPDATE Has A MAJOR PROBLEM (Review)

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    Well we got a new update with version 2.1.0 there is definetly a lot of good here but also some bad changes, including some that might lead to a problem we've seen before.
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  • @dark-death6982
    @dark-death6982 ปีที่แล้ว +1740

    As someone said before, they went too hard on nerfing machine and too soft on crab tank, crab tank’s nerf was barely anything.

    • @ultmewtwo
      @ultmewtwo ปีที่แล้ว +40

      They can't nerf it to much the last thing they want is to nerf any special to point where people will not use the that special they still want people to use the Special so they have to find sweet spot that do not make players not use the Special

    • @NotSnak
      @NotSnak ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@ultmewtwo yes however nerfing its duration by a single second and making it so it can be counteracted easily when triple crab tank is the meta is far to little of a nerf. Crab needs a harsh nerf

    • @MeloniestNeon
      @MeloniestNeon ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Said it before, I'll say it again; Crab is perfectly balanced atm, in terms of the special itself. The damage is good, the health is good, but its not overpowered. Its the horrendous map design, unfortunate weapon kits, and overall undertuned specials lead to its dominance.
      Reefslider, Tristrike, Booyah Bomb, and even stuff like Zipcaster and Inkjet all counter Crab Tank very well, and may weapons such as sloshers and splatanas can easily rip apart a crab if they get within range (Easily accomplished by doing something other than mindlessly walking at a crab surrounded by teammates). HOWEVER, these specials are (with the exception of Booyah) all VERY undertuned and weak. They need buffs, not to the weapons they're on but to the specials themselves (again, with the exception of Booyah, which I consider on-par with Crab) need buffs.
      Imagine a world where Missiles was a meta special (difficult, I know) and Nintendo nerfed it to the ground, making it useless rather than nerfing it's worst trait like they did. YAY! But wait, now that beloved special will make all weapons with it significantly weaker! Such a tragedy... There are some fun, well-balanced kits that have Crab, and to see every weapon with it be turned to dust just because Splash had too few points for special and a burst bomb would genuinely be awful.

    • @harmless9336
      @harmless9336 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      People keep insisting that shooters don't need nerfs and other weapons need to be buffed to be as good as them. Machine is the perfect example of why that logic fails. It's a good weapon that is equal or better than the high bar that is shooters and it gets nerfed to the ground until it isn't that anymore.
      Unless they plan on globally gutting shooters next this nerf was completely uncalled for.

    • @rhysduross
      @rhysduross ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@MeloniestNeon if a full charge of a hydra cannot shred a crab then it needs a nerf, which it cant

  • @tidesrising
    @tidesrising ปีที่แล้ว +810

    My big issue with this patch is that it seems to be focusing on stuff that's almost really dominant while ignoring everything that's bad right now. Almost no weapons that are currently considered very weak right now got any buffs, and it feels like the stuff that was already good is just going to get better while everything else gets left in the dust.

    • @itssnover9000
      @itssnover9000 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      As an Undercover brella main, I am greatly saddened

    • @NotSnak
      @NotSnak ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Dynamo and bamboo and nova and swig were considered pretty weak and they got buffs aswell as aerospray

    • @monkeyman55667
      @monkeyman55667 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thank woomy for dynamo buff lol

    • @bombpwr
      @bombpwr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nintendo will definitely change this, but the real thing I’m wondering is when? 😢

    • @arkethel
      @arkethel ปีที่แล้ว +16

      random points for special buffs for shooters but nothing for tons of weapons that actually need it

  • @Alex72631
    @Alex72631 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    It’s kind of crazy they essentially nerfed L3 and Splash by the same amount despite one being insanely strong and the other being kind of crap

  • @nerdnamedjerry
    @nerdnamedjerry ปีที่แล้ว +756

    it's no object shredder on cooler, but cooler being less affected by RP and haunt is still a fantastic buff im willing to take

    • @MinoriGaming
      @MinoriGaming ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It's a strong buff but IMO not a very fun one. I liked RP as a tacticooler counter, I thought it added a healthy counterplay option to a really safe, low-risk special. There were better ways to buff cooler than just removing the counterplay to it.

    • @SkyBrickStudios
      @SkyBrickStudios ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Cooler isn't a "low risk special", it has a pretty high paint cost across all weapons and it puts you in a vulnerable animation until you throw it, which is a full second or two that you're not painting. Cooler is still one of the weakest specials and it's not on any great weapons right now.

    • @epoxcide
      @epoxcide ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MinoriGaming ok charger main fed

    • @warriorking9885
      @warriorking9885 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@SkyBrickStudios there’s also the fact that enemies can see you whenever you’re buffed.

    • @NotSnak
      @NotSnak ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@MinoriGaming cooler is not low risk

  • @koo3836
    @koo3836 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    52 getting buffed for no reason is insane

    • @SuspiciousTemmie
      @SuspiciousTemmie ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I'm getting Deja Vu

    • @ProChara
      @ProChara  ปีที่แล้ว +168

      extra insane after kgal less then half a year prior

    • @babywizard9027
      @babywizard9027 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@ProChara It's like they didn't learn anything at all.
      I mean, just look at the buff list, so many shooter buffs, including ones like. 52 Gal and Splattershot that were already amazing.
      It's like they want quad shooter to be the META again.

    • @Flow-Fi-
      @Flow-Fi- ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@babywizard9027 Maybe they think they should counter crab? You got wail 5.1 which can lock onto crab and force it to ball up, and trizooka which can destroy it quickly if done correctly.
      It seems like they’re trying to counter crab with other specials but if you ask me, buffing the points for said specials on weapons with an already ridiculous paint output will lead to quad shooters.

    • @kwayke9
      @kwayke9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Vshot too. Meanwhile crab is still overtuned and splash is still super busted (it's not just crab, otherwise we'd be seeing dualies and even a little bit of vpro)

  • @yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc1447
    @yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc1447 ปีที่แล้ว +363

    honestly I'm just happy that tri strike is getting a buff of ANY kind, cause before it just felt like a worse Booyah bomb

    • @vatali2364
      @vatali2364 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      doubt it enough to make it better than booyah bomb. For that they would need to give it armor as strong as ink armor (hope that never happens), faster run speed/able to swim while using, bigger radius, or nerf booyah
      Not saying it needs all of that, just 1 of those would make it equal

    • @shadewful.
      @shadewful. ปีที่แล้ว +33

      What they need to make it better is ALLOW US TO ACTUALLY SWIM IN THE INK WHILE USING IT or at least remove it from missiles because it just feels so vulnerable

    • @SkyBrickStudios
      @SkyBrickStudios ปีที่แล้ว

      I do agree, swimming while casting tristrike would be nice

    • @hide02
      @hide02 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vatali2364 This patch literally gives it a 10% bigger radius.

    • @rouge-ish324
      @rouge-ish324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shadewful. If it's actually gonna replace Bomb rush they need to at least let you use your main weapon too cause it sucks when you gotta defend yourself but you can only throw a strike long range or at your feet

  • @Jazardly
    @Jazardly ปีที่แล้ว +210

    The devs seem to really want global range wail spam with those .52 and nova buffs

    • @ijustwantedtocomment8319
      @ijustwantedtocomment8319 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      That's what I was worried about. People talking about missiles being bad, but once they stop spamming that, wail might be next if it keeps going this way. (I'd still take wail spam over missile spam any day.)

    • @derpykid2.020
      @derpykid2.020 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ijustwantedtocomment8319 T r i s t r i k e s p a m

    • @azurajae
      @azurajae ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Maybe they want Killer Wail as an option to defeat Crab? But only for shooters apparently

    • @SorellaKez
      @SorellaKez ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ijustwantedtocomment8319 wail output isn't as easy to do as pre-nerf missiles, so i don't think it'll be that bad

    • @ijustwantedtocomment8319
      @ijustwantedtocomment8319 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@azurajae I know, right? I feel like tri stringer is a much better option for dealing with crab because of its long range and arcing shots, but nope! The 52 gal's incredible range and the splattershot nova's incredible damage are the perfect counter! Obviously. 😒😒😒

  • @DeltaTried
    @DeltaTried ปีที่แล้ว +346

    If Reefslider actually is like what you said Chara, then I’m gonna be playing a lot more aerospray than before. Also the points from special decreasing for a lot of shooters is something I didn’t think about and is a bigger problem that I’m glad Chara brought to attention.

    • @ChibiChunks
      @ChibiChunks ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was thinking the same. It got me all the way to S+ in the first season, but you become too much of a sitting duck at higher ranks, especially X rank. I still use it occasionally, but unless you have a perfect opportunity to use reef slider stealthily or use it as a get away, you just get killed too easily. It's going to be interesting to see how this buff effects future matches.

  • @YoshiTheGamer64
    @YoshiTheGamer64 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Splash o matic: *the literal meta weapon, yet gets one minor nerf*
    Sloshing: *keeps getting hit with the nerfs*
    WHAT DID WASHING MACHINES DO TO YOU NINTENDO?!

    • @goldeklee
      @goldeklee ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Sloshing Machine really reminding me of Shaman in WoW. When it's fun/ even remotely close to viable, it gets nerfed. No real reasons given. Players that like it just suffer.

    • @tsquitz
      @tsquitz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      quad/tri machine was a thing at launch, I guess they don't want that anymore?

    • @kingrippzard2027
      @kingrippzard2027 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      “Shooter privilege”

    • @d-jams
      @d-jams ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well ever since people were complaining about it in the first week of the game Nintendo is gonna nerf it to the ground

    • @Kyrmana
      @Kyrmana ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goldeklee And GW2s elementalist. Warrior too good? Better nerf ele!

  • @TreeBranchStudios
    @TreeBranchStudios ปีที่แล้ว +190

    I haven’t been hit hard with the crab meta as much as some people, mostly cause I’m a carbon main and just whack them from behind, but I hope there’s an easier way to deal with them in the future

    • @godofretards218
      @godofretards218 ปีที่แล้ว

      You like hitting niggas from the back

    • @poppy-spades
      @poppy-spades ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carbon/Inkbrush main new to Splat3 here: You can just hit them from behind????

    • @2011blueman
      @2011blueman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@poppy-spades Yes, that's the weakness of the crabs, if you shoot them from behind or the side they crack and damage the player too so you can kill them.

  • @torra9979
    @torra9979 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I really hope they give more varied weapons kits soon, we really are on the cusp of a shooter meta right now and it’s not a good sign.

    • @Zenslayer666
      @Zenslayer666 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      As a stringer main the ninja squid and the shooter buffs are gonna be the death of me

  • @loamjomes
    @loamjomes ปีที่แล้ว +36

    NOT THE SHOOTER BUFFS, NOT AGAIN 😭

  • @nice-guyhunter4013
    @nice-guyhunter4013 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    It really bugs me that ttek got the exact same kit as slosher and still has less points for special despite painting more. Only really the dedicated slosher mains (like myself) to actually play it but unsurprisingly the shooter is going to be used. Plus 52 buff for some reason and no splash nerf. Odd patch, but there was definitely some good changes. I like the mpu fixes for some weapons for sure and tri strike might be a good answer to crab at least.

    • @unl3ash3d95
      @unl3ash3d95 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      literally dropped slosher for that reason. I have more fun using the slosher but you gotta do what u gotta do to win 🤷‍♂

  • @Evan.13239
    @Evan.13239 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    That line marker change might actually still be enough to tip Jet Squelcher's combo over 100 damage. Hitting an enemy directly with the marker puts a tiny puddle of ink right under their feet, so the ink size increase means that the enemy should be guaranteed to take a little bit of extra damage if they don't both run ink resistance and immediately paint their feet upon getting hit. So rather than 99 the combo will most likely be 99-103 or so against players rather than the 99 we'll see against target dummies.

    • @thesaltgod
      @thesaltgod ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Problem with that strategy is that it necessitates hitting Angle Shooter first, which isn't ideal considering the combo would be faster and have a longer range finisher if it was capable of coming last.
      Also the fact that ink resistance and sub resistance both greatly reduce the effectiveness of this combo, even in tiny quantities.

  • @sonicrunn3r895
    @sonicrunn3r895 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Are you guys mentally prepared for the fact we'll definitely see more weapons (likely non-shooters) get crab next season and that be the moment they nerf it into the ground? Cause I'm calling my predictions in now, can't wait!

    • @GuessImSylvale
      @GuessImSylvale ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I'm also calling Splash will get ZERO nerfs for the next 6 months

    • @Aego384
      @Aego384 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@GuessImSylvale The Pikachu of Splatoon 3

    • @sonicrunn3r895
      @sonicrunn3r895 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@GuessImSylvaleTHEY'LL NERF SLOSHING MACHINE A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE THEY LET SPLASH DIE

    • @CoolMintMC
      @CoolMintMC ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Aego384 I hate how accurate this is...💀

  • @El_Fluppy
    @El_Fluppy ปีที่แล้ว +170

    I hope that shooters don’t get extremely buffed. I mean they are fun, but i think they should buff weapons that are very weak right now like as they did with dynamo. I hope other weapons get buffed like Dapples or Luna.

    • @catsinwonderland7473
      @catsinwonderland7473 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Omg, PLS PLS PLS PLS Nintendo give rollers a buff 😭😭 I’m so tired of being literally directly in the dynamos hitbox and still killing them anyway 😭

    • @DiegoG2004
      @DiegoG2004 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For me it just feels dirty to play a shooter. I just hold the ZR button and look at a direction.

    • @tomatoblate2170
      @tomatoblate2170 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Especially because we’re already often seeing double to triple shooter in comps

  • @MintyPolaroid
    @MintyPolaroid ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I really wanna play weapons other than shooters but they just feel so underpowered and unrewarding. I hope the devs see the direction this is going and bring more life back to the other classes.

    • @babywizard9027
      @babywizard9027 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I know, it's like the Shooters always have insane damage, paint, ink efficiency, mobility, special output, and just crazy stats across the board, with no significant weaknesses.
      While every other class has to deal with at least a couple of stats that are mediocre or bad, and usually have a defined and exploitable weakness, sometimes many.

    • @Huskie297
      @Huskie297 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      As an ink brush main: felt. The maps need to be adjusted for short ranges as well.

    • @babywizard9027
      @babywizard9027 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Huskie297 Yep, it's so hard to get close when the enemy E Liter can control half the map just by standing on high ground.

    • @TerrariaLuvr
      @TerrariaLuvr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON HYDRA AND TRI SLOSHER!!!!

    • @babywizard9027
      @babywizard9027 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TerrariaLuvr Hydra is pretty good, but gets hard countered by E Liter, which really hurts it. When there's no E Liter, it can pop off. Also it has a panic button special, so it can't be flanked easily.
      Tri Slosher is also solid, but has a horrible kit, Inkjet is undertuned, but can still work if the user is skilled enough with it. But then it has TOXIC MIST. One of the worst sub weapons even on its best days, and this is a combo with zero synergy.

  • @sonofacar4230
    @sonofacar4230 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You know it would be much better and healthier for the game if instead of just making another shooter (ttek) the solution to the current meta (splash), the devs actually buffed brella AKA the weapon that was made specifically as a counter to shooters.
    But no, splat devs will be splat devs ig :')

  • @dragneel3458
    @dragneel3458 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Ttek Splattershot is gonna go from pretty good to one of the best weapons in the game holy moly.

    • @kingrippzard2027
      @kingrippzard2027 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I already played the weapon, but even then I don’t know if I should be happy or disappointed. They shot my main man wiper.

    • @d-jams
      @d-jams ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah Tri Strike getting a buff is honestly crazy and now it's gonna be a better booyah bomb cause of the radius increase and damage increase now its gonna kill faster than a Booyah Bomb.

    • @Huskie297
      @Huskie297 ปีที่แล้ว

      I already see tons of Ttek spam with Special Gauge Up in turf wars, and the rate at which I get spammed with Triple Inkstrike is ridiculous.

    • @kimito3566
      @kimito3566 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Huskie297 Ttek is the new spam weapon.

  • @avantgardemetalfan
    @avantgardemetalfan ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The invincibility frames on reefslider will make it safer to use in salmon run.

    • @NotSnak
      @NotSnak ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Specials and weapons in salmon dont get the changes made to them in multiplayer unless specifically stated. So its gonna still be vulnerable

    • @dukemon6163
      @dukemon6163 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@NotSnak When Sting Ray got buffed so it did in Salmon Run so we'll have to wait and see.

    • @TerrariaLuvr
      @TerrariaLuvr ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I once used reefslider and ended up underneath a fly fish and died because of the jet output of ink 💔💔

    • @BasedMamaJames617
      @BasedMamaJames617 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TerrariaLuvr Truly one of the worst ways I've heard anyone die in Salmon Run.

    • @TerrariaLuvr
      @TerrariaLuvr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BasedMamaJames617 i also die to the slammin lid being too far out.
      So when i jump on top of it then kill it i fall straight into the water. It happens way too frequently so I've learned to just leave them to my teammates if they're above water

  • @Rehehehe780
    @Rehehehe780 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    So splash basically gets a miniscule nerf that can be counteracted with special power up and machine gets its ass suplexed with these nerfs

  • @Twig_the_Blue_Pikmin
    @Twig_the_Blue_Pikmin ปีที่แล้ว +73

    This patch has me so worried for Splatoon 3's future... I hope those worries wont become true

    • @jpuc5568
      @jpuc5568 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      bro its a nintendo game of course competitively it will always be fucked, but casually people will always be playing

    • @pelican7235
      @pelican7235 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@jpuc5568still casually having a lot of weapons feel outclassed isnt fun

  • @lottiye
    @lottiye ปีที่แล้ว +10

    what i don’t understand is why they made the endlag of reefslider invincible instead of removing it altogether, that would’ve been way cooler

    • @sonicrunn3r895
      @sonicrunn3r895 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because of Tetra. The moment you give something that can roll 4 times instant access to those rolls out of the invulnerable explosion, you have a MASSIVE problem. It's a necessary evil.

    • @babywizard9027
      @babywizard9027 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I know, now it's going to be so annoying to try to punish Reefslider, since there's no indicator of when it's Invincibility ends.
      This is why I hated fighting Splash down in Splatoon 2, because sometimes it felt like I shot them directly in the face, but they didn't take any damage.
      Now it's the same for Reefslider, I now have to wait for the Invincibility to end and then attack, with no indication of when that happens.
      Eventually everyone will learn the timing of it, but for the first couple of weeks it'll be super frustrating.

  • @SuspiciousTemmie
    @SuspiciousTemmie ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This patch makes zero sense, classic Nintendo moment.

    • @internetguy7319
      @internetguy7319 ปีที่แล้ว

      It makes sense

    • @sonicrunn3r895
      @sonicrunn3r895 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      52 and jet squelcher got more buffs than the entire Brella class combined

    • @SuspiciousTemmie
      @SuspiciousTemmie ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sonicrunn3r895 Yeah, 2 is definitely more than 0

    • @LuigisLegend
      @LuigisLegend ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuspiciousTemmie they got 3

  • @devinc578
    @devinc578 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It’s upsetting we’re already entering shooter meta because they wouldn’t nerf splash, and instead buffed like 7 shooters.
    The crab nerf wasn’t enough to change splash from being this game’s Kgal

  • @ArtAngelMouse
    @ArtAngelMouse ปีที่แล้ว +20

    If Machine was a shooter, it would get a slap in the wrist while if Splash was another weapon class, it would've gotten nerfs after nerfs in every patch. They didn't even try to hide the shooter privilege.

  • @qwertyman7564
    @qwertyman7564 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think the direction they’re going in to combat crab is a good one, taking more of a “make everything good” route then to make crab useless. But let’s hope for the next season patch they start doing that with more low tier weapons and specials while also experimenting more evenly and not pouring nerfs or buffs into one specific thing at a time.

  • @alphab93
    @alphab93 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I wish they would give us some new kits with the mid season patches. Waiting 3 months for just 10 kits is painful

  • @SolarFloof
    @SolarFloof ปีที่แล้ว +26

    machine got hit too hard with the nerfs and I find it strange how they barely nerfed splash by only slightly reducing the time of crab
    but on the other hand, I'm very happy with the reefslider and triple inkstrike buffs, I'm gonna be using ttek a lot more now

  • @noizepusher7594
    @noizepusher7594 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It felt like this patch had a weird latency to it? Like all of the nerfs were nerfs to things we were complaining about a few months ago.

  • @isaacgates5859
    @isaacgates5859 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Of all shooter games, Splatoon deserves the most to have a diverse meta. There are so many incredible designs and weapon concepts in non-shooter classes, but so many are unviable.
    The brella class is only now being fixed, and there are still only 2 brush main weapons, after 8 years. The 2 new classes (and brellas) didn't even get new kits this update. I think Splatoon 3 has a lot going for it, but the next update has a lot to make up for.

  • @omegabrain230
    @omegabrain230 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It’s telling how the only way Splash will go out of the meta after the patch is if Dualies end up outclassing it as a crab weapon rather than you know crab being less oppressive

  • @CobiaCrossink
    @CobiaCrossink ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Thank you Chara for everything you do for the community. You have been a real blessing to it! Again, Thank you!

  • @Realsheepsoft
    @Realsheepsoft ปีที่แล้ว +19

    So I'm not an expert on the comp scene by any means but my interpretation of some of these changes is that the team wants Crab format to stick around while providing more counters and also diversifying the options teams have for what crab weapon they want to run (through the buffs to Pro and Dualies). If I had to guess I'd say they'd want to officially put an end to crab format for the next season, but I could easily see that not happening as well
    However I would also like an answer to a question that's been eating at me for a while: How much do points for special buffs/nerfs matter? Is a 10 point change that significant? It seems like such a small change it won't affect anything, but all the talk about them seems to make it sound like it's going to make the weapon a lot stronger

    • @ProChara
      @ProChara  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      10 points is significant on anything that paints well

    • @arttukettunen5757
      @arttukettunen5757 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For me, I can just about feel a 10p change in specials in matches, but I don't see it really affect me when it matters, so I just assume it's a bigger deal at a higher level and to combat special spam which I don't use. Though I'd think 20p would start actually mattering somewhat, and that "somewhat" can be big in some situations

    • @babywizard9027
      @babywizard9027 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      A 10 point buff is equivalent to around 2 or 3 subs of Special Charge Up at all times.
      That doesn't sound like a lot, but the fact is that its completely separate from your gear, and is just a free boost.
      In competitive play, Specials are super important for starting pushes, getting an advantage in a fight, applying pressure, etc. Even 10 points can be the difference between having your special ready or having to give up your position and advantage.

  • @BluVapour
    @BluVapour ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wiper getting its point for special increased makes absolutely no sense considering that the weapon really only uses Ultra Stamp as a second projectile separate from torpedoes.

  • @verycleanguy1771
    @verycleanguy1771 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm a Tenta Brella main and I'm glad that they're giving some attention to brellas with the bug fixes, but from reading them I don't feel like they'll be all that impactful; I'm still biding my time waiting for them to help Tenta do the one thing it wants to do (shield) and for them to make Splat and Undercover even worth glancing at

    • @FortyTwoBlades
      @FortyTwoBlades ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm an Undercover main and the patch notes read as mostly cosmetic fixes to me.

    • @CoolMintMC
      @CoolMintMC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FortyTwoBlades Same.

  • @harleypippenger3255
    @harleypippenger3255 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like the buffs to tri strike to make it a more viable counter, but why are other weapons not getting buffs? Why did slosher not get buffed to compete with sloshing? Why are brellas still the same? Also crab being a duration buff if so frsutrating. It should have time like a startup shooting speed, or maybe there's more lag from switching from bombs to gun on crab? Decreasing damage on crab? Like there's so many things that COULD have been done that just didnt

  • @kingv-raptor840
    @kingv-raptor840 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don’t get why shooters the class that naturally has the best paint is also starting to get lower points for special numbers compared to everything else. If they were actually outclassed in combat like the Aerospray I’d get it but most of them are also solid fighters. Nearly every shooter could go to 200-220p and every non shooter could drop to 180-200p and I’m pretty sure shooters would still be meta due to their consistency and ease of use.

  • @omegabrain230
    @omegabrain230 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I love how they buffed Splattershot, Dualies and 52 points for special despite them being pretty good especially Dualies but but still haven’t buffed points for special for any of the Brella’s or Blasters despite them painting way worse

    • @martenthornberg275
      @martenthornberg275 ปีที่แล้ว

      If dualies were good you would see them used a lot more by top players. But it’s a bit odd they only choose to make adjustments to the splat dualies.

    • @christiancasaverdepertica1802
      @christiancasaverdepertica1802 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, I'm an undercover main, so while its definitely different than the other brellas, I feel like the painting isn't actually that bad. Does it get outclassed by some other weapons? Yeah, but it paints pretty decently all things considered

  • @fishblunt
    @fishblunt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Commenting because you earned it, I’ve been confused about this update(first splatoon game I’m still wrapping my head around it) and this makes SO much sense explained like this , thank you!

  • @llamallover1057
    @llamallover1057 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm glad they buffed the angle shooter though because I think it's fun

    • @babywizard9027
      @babywizard9027 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Angle Shooter is the only shooter that should've been buffed this patch.

    • @Inksanity
      @Inksanity ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it'd be interesting if they let the trail drip a bit of ink, too

    • @TerrariaLuvr
      @TerrariaLuvr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My favourite part as a Jet Squelcher main is throwing angle shooters at chargers to make them look away.
      It feels like spritzing a dog with water and shooing them away

    • @thesaltgod
      @thesaltgod ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Angle Shooter is fun, but it sucks that (despite being buffed twice now) it still uses the shooting angle sub weapons do rather than reflecting the main weapon. Considering it fires completely straight and has the longest range in the entire game, it's annoying for it to completely miss because it doesn't follow your crosshair, either going above it or below it in too many situations. If it followed your crosshair, it would be much easier to use on the fly without having to spend the time to adjust your aim.

  • @ZeldaZoura
    @ZeldaZoura ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the fourth patch note video I‘ve watched and everyone has agreed on the shooter privilege and absurdly terrible job at trying to nerf the crab. In all honesty I wish this patch never happened.

  • @santajohnsduraorduraclause4678
    @santajohnsduraorduraclause4678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sloshing machine: murdered
    Crab: slightly hit with a butter knife.

  • @Seleiance
    @Seleiance ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Random question: If 3 crabs was the meta, does that mean we can call the time of that meta the "Fish Sauce Era"? :3

    • @TrippyMoak
      @TrippyMoak ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You can still delete this bro lol ❤

  • @ryanames4168
    @ryanames4168 ปีที่แล้ว

    i LOVE this style of patch overview video it reminds me a lot of KarQ's overwatch patch vids. the quality and visual aids for each change are great!

  • @MB-bl4nl
    @MB-bl4nl ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For ninja squid, I was under the impression they meant there will be no way to return to a base swim speed while using ninja squid, even when stacking swim speed up. Maybe I misinterpreted?

    • @babywizard9027
      @babywizard9027 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The way I interpret it is that before Ninja Squid would basically act like one main of Anti Swim speed, like an ability that makes you slower. And if you had one main of Swim Speed Up, they would cancel each other out and then any more swim speed that you stacked would work like normally.
      Now the way it works is that it reduces your swim speed by 10% all the time. So no matter how much swim speed you stack up, it'll take the amount of swim speed you would've had, and reduce it by 10%.
      This means that it will be worse to stack swim speed, since you cant nullify the drawback of Ninja Squid with just 1 main of SSU anymore.

  • @thatgreyhat2208
    @thatgreyhat2208 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    wiper may have been getting a lot of stamp, but honestly, stamp is undertuned and more situational than most other specials. wiper should be allowed to have 180.

    • @NotSnak
      @NotSnak ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. Until they fix this broken and undertuned special it should be 180

  • @eethyl_1827
    @eethyl_1827 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Splat 2 was released on July 17 2017, and tri basically began to run the game pretty quickly afterwards. Then on September 7th 2017, the patch that basically killed triple tri slosher was released and the game was able to move on from the there, only about a month and a half period. On November 3 2022, during Area Cup+ 78, we had our first glimpse of double splash winning a tournament from MDZ, after which splash started taking over. Let's be fair and say 2 weeks before a patch drops in not enough time for them to figure out how to hit splash. That still gives them a month and a half before the chill season update to think of a way to hit it, even if it's just a small change to crab tank. It's the same amount of time they took to kill of triple tri in S2, so surely they do SOMETHING to it right? Nope...completely untouched. And so, they're given yet another month and a half to figure out what to do with splash, and this is all we get. If the way they handled machine is anything to go by, at this rate, splash is gonna be in a balanced state by the season 5 update and then we have to deal with whatever bullshit was hiding behind splash waiting for it's turn to be stupid and annoying (my money is on wavebreaker, cJr + liter/heavy, can't wait to see it). If they're going to have this slower patch pace, then the patches need to be more substantial. The nickle and dime style worked in 2 because patches came out way more often, there were like 18 patches in 2018 alone. At the pace they're doing it now, we're getting 8 per year. That's less than half.

  • @Iinneus
    @Iinneus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you believe Brellas literally haven't appeared in a single Patch Note outside of the "Bug Fixes" section _since launch?_ Pour one out for the Brellas, they need SOMETHING.
    also no map fixes, yaaayyyy

    • @FortyTwoBlades
      @FortyTwoBlades ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a 5-star Undercover main, I am begging Nintendo to remember we exist.

  • @xanthousizalith5641
    @xanthousizalith5641 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really hope this duration buff throws more people who liked Naut back onto Naut, because it's kit isn't bad at all, besides Point Sensor, the only special I can see working for it after my time playing it, is Linemarker or maybe Burst, but even then it still feels not bad at all and it shreds HP stuff (I soloed a Crab pre-patch without much difficulty). Crab definitely needs more nerfs, but it's difficult to figure out what to nerf while maintaining the "Peak and die" oppression that they're obviously going for with it. Reefslider's new Invincibility gives me hope that it won't end up "Horizontal Splashdown" and especially since it's supposed to be an Anti HP Special, it getting Invincibility means breaking a Crab will give you time to kill the Crab User instead of just getting murdered instantly.

  • @baileywright6476
    @baileywright6476 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I play sloshing machine a fair bit, and they definitely went way to hard on it. I also reckon they needed to do a bit more nerfing on the crab since special power up can still increase the duration.

  • @Spletz
    @Spletz ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just imagine for a second a world in which the top players decided the buffs and nerfs in patches. I'm pretty sure if Chara was in charge then the game would actually be balanced

    • @Hestoomi
      @Hestoomi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It wouldn't be much fun for us casuals

  • @mallrat.22
    @mallrat.22 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would like this patch more if the shooters didn’t get lower points

  • @sabbagecavage5690
    @sabbagecavage5690 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    honestly, the thing I'm surprised nobody has mentioned... WHERE ARE THE SNIPEWRITER BUFFS? I guess they thought buffing cooler would solve its weirdly horrible object damage or lack of mobility idk

    • @FortyTwoBlades
      @FortyTwoBlades ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone had the great idea of making it so ducking into squid form would lose you 1 shot instead of all of them.

    • @sabbagecavage5690
      @sabbagecavage5690 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FortyTwoBlades yeah chara mentioned that, would be cool (though I still think it'd be nice if it shredded stuff)

  • @_SereneMango
    @_SereneMango ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also I wouldn't mind an ink efficiency nerf for the Splash-o-matic. I barely care about that when I use it, and paints around so well.

  • @jiffyalt4259
    @jiffyalt4259 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's gonna be fun to get those direct shots on the crabs with range blaster.

  • @connormcnulty6377
    @connormcnulty6377 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I know it's very unlikely, but I'm just hoping that this will somehow turn into that magical age of the weapon triangle of Shooters>Dualies>Brellas. But as of right now, I'm just happy to see my favorite weapon getting bug fixes and its special getting buffed, even if it needs a better sub.

    • @garz5785
      @garz5785 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brella?

  • @Tiquono
    @Tiquono ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel like even just a 10p increase in points per special for shooters across the board would be very healthy for the game

  • @bleh5430
    @bleh5430 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Overall I think that this patch is relatively fine but I agree that there is too much shooter bias but I am APPALLED that they didn't nerf splash as much as they did and that the sloshing machine was nerfed as much as it was because it is one of my favorite weapons to use. I would love to see some dualies changes though such as a slight range buff for the dapple dualies but at the cost of a slower or shorter dodge roll.

  • @kwayke9
    @kwayke9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ttek might overtake stamper as the premier crab counter now. Also, why the wiper nerf? And why is splash still super busted? This thing is a strong contender for best main weapon in the game, with top 2-3 sub and special. Double splash+ttek+flex is probably the meta now

    • @kwayke9
      @kwayke9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AtomicVegetable I can see vslosher making waves too. Maybe even nova for wail spam?

  • @gabe1673
    @gabe1673 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music choices have been fire lately

  • @Correian
    @Correian ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Even though I main shooters, I want to play more weapons, but I feel like I can’t because they’re too good and my team will miss out on a significant amount of paint and special output compared to all of the double splash teams we go up against. I feel stuck and I really wish they’d nerf more shooters and buff other things so there can actually be some good variety in this game

  • @SJrad
    @SJrad ปีที่แล้ว +2

    side note: i wish splash wall was more intuitive to throw instead of having a set distance with no visualizer.

  • @howardyates4848
    @howardyates4848 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The one silver lining of this patch is that Splat Brella might have a niche of being a Splash counter.
    Hopefully.

    • @eaa1338
      @eaa1338 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably not because the ttek also got buffed with a lower pfs while the pfs for brella stays the same.

  • @prosonicgamer3221
    @prosonicgamer3221 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your videos man, keep it up

  • @kibbybipps
    @kibbybipps ปีที่แล้ว +7

    really happy with the reefshark buff

  • @thatanimetamilian5356
    @thatanimetamilian5356 ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost at 100k Chara. You deserve it

  • @ghost_rick_the_ghostian
    @ghost_rick_the_ghostian ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the nova updates im planning to main it after i get 5 star on the jr i used the nova for a bit and it is a pretty nice weapon when you understand how to use it specialty of range so im looking forward to use it

  • @chrisnugen4253
    @chrisnugen4253 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Chara, I now main Forge pro and if I may ask, is a burst tri strike a good kit for Splattershot pro?

  • @tentarj4753
    @tentarj4753 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    man i loved when sloshing machine was in the game

  • @DosDeAsada69
    @DosDeAsada69 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was afraid they would kill machine the same way they killed Brella, but I didn't thought they would do so this early
    Honestly what the fuck where they thinking

  • @puppydudefake
    @puppydudefake ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for explaining

  • @Toruma
    @Toruma ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm kind of curious about the data behind these changes

  • @tamanakio7552
    @tamanakio7552 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How is everyone ignoring the biggest nerf Crab Tank has received this patch?
    It's stated in the bug fixes that they "Fixed an issue where attacks to the rear of the Crab Tank, like Ink Storm, bounce off when the tank is in walking mode even when directly striking the player."
    They are using Ink Storm as an example of something that should damage both the crab and the user, but what this means is that the player will essentially be more vulnerable in crab mode. That's huge.

    • @juniperrodley9843
      @juniperrodley9843 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You said "buff" but then described a nerf :v

    • @tamanakio7552
      @tamanakio7552 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juniperrodley9843 my whole argument when I forgor:

  • @julien_192
    @julien_192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also for ninjasquid it in the patch the swim speed stacks worse than before instead of buffing it (source: splatoon France patch notes discord)

  • @hiemstrathijmen3924
    @hiemstrathijmen3924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid!

  • @henrycarr8714
    @henrycarr8714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should make a video on what you would do if you could make a patch

  • @Sonicspeeder2023
    @Sonicspeeder2023 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe that with the buff to tri-strike, t-tech splatershot will become part of the new meta.
    The main weapon of splatershot is already really good. I’m addition, I believe that it works much better with splat bomb. And tri-strike is also a really good special now and before the patches and I think this would work really well in the meta.

  • @CheesyLizzy
    @CheesyLizzy ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a Brella main, I was hoping they'd do some sort of buff for them but I'm at least looking forward to seeing how the bug fixes adjust things ^^

  • @atlazmoth926
    @atlazmoth926 ปีที่แล้ว

    After trying out the Nova, I'm really excited for these buffs. Better paint for better support and more Wails to cover Nova's issue with splating

  • @ericrosario2278
    @ericrosario2278 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was in a turf match with my friends and with the buff for triple inkstrike and very close team placement i was able to get a team-wipe with only one special

  • @thatoneuberedsoldier4505
    @thatoneuberedsoldier4505 ปีที่แล้ว

    I forgot how clean the lake trio theme is

  • @byrontheusurper6505
    @byrontheusurper6505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looked rlly good tho! Maybe that's selection bias tho since I was thoroughly dissapointed with the way the reg pro kit feels and I'm ecited for angle shooter buffs and crab nerfs

  • @justajuicebox0819
    @justajuicebox0819 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chara with the Sonic speed on the uploads we love to see it

  • @wasperfly
    @wasperfly ปีที่แล้ว

    It'd be nice if they buffed the flingzas kill range too. I used it with MPU in S2 and it was low-key satisfying getting the farther kills lol.

  • @stardust2441
    @stardust2441 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well. I was not expecting reefslider to get buffed like that but I might just be going back to tetras now

  • @TerrariaLuvr
    @TerrariaLuvr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope they show some shooter bias towards one of mains, Jet Squelcher. I'd like a improved ink efficiency

  • @uttsu1537
    @uttsu1537 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time to put my mini splatling down. I love this weapon so much but it's kinda hard to deal with shooters. And with the upcoming meta...
    I'm gonna try the Nautilus instead for now

  • @000Brianna
    @000Brianna ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the special point stuff is only being swapped around for the fact that they want weapons with already somewhat fast output (shooters) to be able to get special faster to target ppl popping crab tank

  • @arjunbaweja7755
    @arjunbaweja7755 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey if you see this, I wanted to ask your opinion prochara. Isn’t the tristringer like perfect with angle shooter now and is prob best case for it? I mean angle is still a little under the power curve but all aspects work. It now does as much as a normal trjstringer full charge so it’s perfect for finishing off enemies hit with two shots. It’s cheap and can now act like a panic button on your feet for turf (something normal tristringer lacks), and location really works with the goal of poking over walls and hitting enemies. I just think that it’s meant for the tristringer what do you think?

  • @littlemouche
    @littlemouche ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Changing the meta from splash/machine comps to splash/ttek comps was definitely...a choice

  • @Mek20111
    @Mek20111 ปีที่แล้ว

    The nova buff is little abit noticeable if you are aiming up and down while shooting. Therefore, you can farm killer wail 5.1 faster

  • @latch_official
    @latch_official ปีที่แล้ว

    did the brella fixes actually make the weapons more usable? it's pretty hard to tell just from reading the notes

  • @closedchill5243
    @closedchill5243 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blob got a fix to the bounces which will turn out to be a buff. I wish it got its painting MPU buff back too. Waiting for a kit with wall.

  • @yo-xd1716
    @yo-xd1716 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone at Nintendo felt bad for undercover brella but not enough to buff it directly so they slightly buffed it's special

  • @VileOkami
    @VileOkami ปีที่แล้ว

    I wasn't expecting any changes before the end of the season, so hopefully it's just some things they wanted to try out now.

  • @Marioqt2003
    @Marioqt2003 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad angle shooter is getting a buff

  • @wurtknurte7283
    @wurtknurte7283 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ngl, even though I hate Machine, it does not deserve these nerfs. I wish more unique weapons got buffs instead of shooters, but one thing I have to mention is the fact that Booyah Bomb is still a panic special, despite that dynamic basically being removed in Splatoon 3. Weapons like Splatana literaly have no answer to it before the HP Shield goes up, so you basically can't do anything if someone uses it.

  • @StoryTeller796
    @StoryTeller796 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, I guess the changing directions buff idea that I had for Reefslider won't happen yet, rip.

  • @chrisdray5325
    @chrisdray5325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are some really good changes (invincibility on Reefslider) and some really strange choices (buffing 52 and Splat Dualies), but it feels like they're really trying to buff B-tier weapons instead of D-Tier weapons (except for Big Swig, which will still be bad, and Nova). They're gonna wind up taking the meta from 2 weapons to about 8, which is both an improvement and seriously missing the point. Nautilus gets more use (as far as I can tell) than something like Ballpoint, so why is Nautilus the one getting the buff? It's a weird ethos, but at least it might end the era of 3 Splash per team.