@jacobkorf If in an unavoidable encounter situation Tknights are a nightmare. If in rams knocking out defensive buildings with paladin support you get a death ball from hell
Legionaries also have bonus damage of +4 vs other infantry. So on theyre first attack they deal 25 damage vs other infantry, even acounting for armor they still do like 20 damage in one hit, thats generally between 20-33% of a units hp and even after theyre charge attack they still do 20 damage per hit
To be fair they're really good as defensive troops, if you're reliant on the strat of smashing an initial assault and meeting the opponent with a counterattack - but definitively too slow to be used outside of that
Out of all the unit types I love infantry most, probably because for me, the fantasy of medieval battles is pretty much about infantry. I'm glad to see the love infantry is getting the past couple years.
Champion is expensive and takes time on its own. Druzhina is also somewhat expensive and requires castle. If you fight in post imp death match sure. Booming as pocket in closed type maps like arena sure. But otherwise....
definitely slept on the condottiero, many civs have condottieros that can specialize into niche roles and completely stop metagame civs, even just the italian one is good enough with it's timing to give arbalests, halbs siege, kaimayuks, shotels, normal champions, the entire bohemian and portoguese civs a run for their money, very hard to put it in a category of course but i think it's an honorable mention unit
Yeah it's like an elephant: it is only as strong as your opponent allows it to be. Being a slow unit means you can't force an engagement. Why would your opponent stand and fight the Obuch with melee units if they excel at it? The answer is they wouldn't, so the Obuch doesn't do much in the practical sense, unless both sides are just patrolling into each other
The main reason is slow walk speed. Pro players don't like slow units because they micro manage their units during battles and slow melee units can easily be outmaneuvered. Elephants do a lot of damage too.. but they are rated poorly because of their walk speed.
I initially was thinking eagle warrior number 1, before seeing anything else, but then when you talked about the kamayuk I got psyched out and thought karambit.
7:35 I'm guessing its the Mayan EEW. Its like a Huskarl with its HP and pierce armor, and it cost effectively trades against Paladins. Not to mention its built from the barracks.
Berzerk are awesome in my opinion, they just are in a weird spot to use. In late castle you have all their upgrades when you go longswords, so mix a bit of bzk is a great thing as their move speed and regen make them better than they seem. But it's hard to justify the upgrade to elite when you age up and have champion available ... Still they are pretty good to fight and raid with If you have ressources to spend, it's great topick the upgrade and sprinkle some bzk in your armies
Berserk> Champ in basically every situation tbh. The cost difference is easily paid back by their ability to self heal, the speed boost is really good and the fact that they can trade cost effectively with PALADINS makes them really good as a power unit that you want to pull and overwhelming the opponent with. Mix in some Arbs and you got a very powerful army comp. Their only downside is that you need a castle to train them, which can affect massing. But the self heal also helps here.
Obuch are slow. It might be good at lower ELOs, but pro players will outmaneuver slow units. It's like an elephant. Situationally they can be the ideal unit and pros would know best when to use them. They aren't bad, they just aren't flexible enough i think to be considered a top infantry unit in my opinion.
I was thinking Gbeto... I like Gbetoes more, despite never using them really! I'd want 6 T.C. Tigui to range/defend against my opponents, I've been wanting to do that sort of stuff - mostly on African Clearing, in this little tournament I've been going through. But as of now... no luck!
Gbeto are great units but kinda squishy very easy to lose a great mass of them. Run them into mass of xbow by mistake or an onager shot and it's a painful loss.
Celts Woad: *Sonic theme plays as they zoom to destroy your base in a suicide attack, and raid too, not even cavalry archers can keep up with their zoomies* Hehe check this magic trick of disappearing TC.
1. Either: Eagle warrior because it's versatile and counters both archers and cav pretty decently, is cheap and spamable, runs under TCs, and kills buildings and villagers Or: Armenians 100hp champions late game
I was so sure Woad Raiders would make the top 5 but when I didn't see them by 3rd I thought they probably didn't make the cut. Didnt expect Kamyuks not played in such a long time forgot how cool they are.
As for the number one unit, personally I would've gone for the halberdier followed by the eagle-line, specifically the eagle scout which can be really hard to deal with in feudal. Personally I would've put the Obuch or Gbeto or Urumi Swordsman as #5 over the legionary, but must admit that the fact alone that you can spam legionaries from barracks while only needing a single Centurion near them probably makes them better.
Berserk getting disrespect 😐 They are harder to mass than champs of course but overall a lot more versatile. (Better vs cav, faster moving, higher attack, self-healing) I think they could use a last small buff like +1 pierce armor OR +2 attack OR adjusting the hp that they end up with 80hp as elite to really put them on the top tier infantry units. I don't really see why you hate them so much though. Kinda sad. 😬
i think armor or attack buffs would severly overtune them +5 HP might be good but overall i like their place maybe a hidden bonus like +1 or 2 attack versus villagers (as viking raids are pretty famous in history)
One thing about the Halb. If I got it, I rage at how quickly they die If i don't have access to them, i miss them so much. Camels are good, but against elephants and even Cataphract, they aren't cost effective at countering cavs.
And no pierce armor. And cause they're too powerful seeing how the 30 day trek from barracks to enemy base is bound to have monks not caring that they're conversion resistant
@@Mattroid99 That's odd maybe it's because I used them as defense units because I never struggled with infantry. 😅 I just suck at getting to castle before a flush or drush kills me.
Kinda funny to have Halbs above Kamayuks, but in the context of wider application, it makes sense. Personally I love the Gbetto but I don't think it's particularly strong - still fun tho. Similarly I like Shotel Warriors. The list as a whole I agree with, it all makes sense. I think the Condottiero deserved an honourable mention for the shere flexibility it provides.
I've played 1000 team ranked games and never make Condottieri. They are good against gun-powder units but gun-powder units don't appear often enough to warrant their use. Condottieri are otherwise just an overpriced champion. They are a niche or specialized unit that is only really good at one thing. I don't know what flexibility you're talking about.
I still use your "Ideal Unit Composition For Every Civilization" video as a daily resource when playing random civs and you pointed Berserks as the main unit for Vikings. Did you change your mind and the video is outdated or am I missing something? Nice vid, as always
Not sure when that video was made, but MAA line has gotten a lot of buffs. Berserkers are still a good option if your enemy is spamming cavalry/infantry with no archers/castles to back them up, but they die much faster to arrows than champs. I'd still recommend berserkers if you're fighting a civ like the Goths with their infantry/hand cannon combo in the late game. The extra speed of the berserker might help them chase down the hand cannons while champ's PA doesn't play as much of a role due to the HC's bonus damage. They're mostly there to deal with the Huskarls and protect your own Arbalests though. Or even crossbows really, since Vikings can wipe Goths in Castle.
You can deduce #1 by logic thinking because he said "we're gonna get back into unique units for a little bit" at #2 and since helbs were already mentioned and champs are pretty surely worse than legionary and depending on if you count condotiero there's only one non-uu left
guess: The Japanese MAA, up there as the most terrifyig units with his comrads the Briton Crossbow and the Elite Mangudai. but I cant imagine Hera not mentioning Eagles.
Kinda surprised samurai didn't make the list or even appear in the honourable mentions section. They're really good in their role of countering other civ's unique units and train in only 9 seconds (very nice for when rams are pushing your castle and you want infantry to zone them out).
Warrior monks are really good aswell tbough Trouble is that u can't spam them and they get killed by light cav. But they shred everything else. Plus they got cool beards.
My guess was Urumi Swordsman because Dravidians are the best civ and you know it I wasn't even thinking about eagles simply because they exist to replace cavalry so I don't really consider them infantry, the proof is that they are the initial scout unit for the meso civs
I think they at least deserved an honorable mention if not a spot on the actual list. I would rather have a bunch of Elite Obuchs than Legionaries for sure. The fact that enemy armor is removed until the damaged unit is FULLY HEALED is huge. Even with monk support, the fact a unit damaged by an Obuch must reach FULL HEALTH to regain the lost armor is HUGE
Armor reduction, snowballs so quickly with trash like skirms and it’s crazy cost effective - so cheap for what it is. And how could we forget that attack sound *chefs kiss*
Surprised condos didn't get into the list even as a honorable mention. On paper you may think they are good only vs gunpowder but they are incredibly well rounded. You don't need too many upgrades, they are a quick answer in a lot of situations, so strong in early imp, solid stats, decent speed, shreds gunpowder units, easy to produce...
Condottiero not mentioned at all? The only melee unit that counters its counter. And being a teambonus. And being available immediately in imperial age.
I originally thought the Jag warrior forgetting about the Gbeto until you showed the Chakram thrower. But I disagree with the eagles, that's definitely a personal preference. Gbeto just have too much going for them.
my guess is mayan eagle warrior. but i think the urumi sworsdman is slept on it counters all melee so hard even teutonic knight. also obuch is strong af for how cheap it is
Eagle Warrior imo an essy guess if all civs that get it thinkbits viable to completely switch tech from good arches into infantry ... there has to be a reason
Ghulams are an anti-archer specialist, which are not really needed when everybody has Skirmishers that don't cost gold. Jaguar Warriors are anti-infantry specialists that struggle against anything else. And they struggle to be cost effective. Obuchs walk too slow. Pro players don't like slow moving units because they are easily outmaneuvered, just like an elephant.
@@WackyConundrum Situationally they can be the ideal unit to counter the enemy army of a certain composition assuming you have the gold. They are specialists that are excellent at what they do but the issue I think is they aren't particularly good outside of their specialty because they are expensive and there is other units that will trade more cost effectively against a diverse or unpredictable enemy army. Pros would know best when the right time to use them is so it's not surprising to see them used there. They aren't bad units, they are just not flexible enough i think to be considered a top infantry unit. But that's just my criteria and opinion. I don't know Hera's reasoning.
Eagle Warriors was an easy guess because you mentioned too often that those other infantry units counter them. You wouldn't do that if they wouldn't invade your nightmares ; )
I thought TK would go on honorable mention, but i guess their weakness to archers is just too great, sure it has 100hp but now that barracks units got gambeson TK now have the same pierce armor as regular champion. 😢
Vikings UU (I wanna call it "chieftain" but that's a tech I belieb) maybe? I am half cheating if I am right since I have watched a few honorable mentions and not seen it there. However the thing that makes me question is the statement that "no one will guess it", do villagers count? If so they win by far.
Before seeing the number one slot. I'm going to say Konnik Knight, because he's free and counters the halbs that try to kill his friends , and wrecks buildings. Also Konnik is my favourite unit overall. Then it didn't get mentioned at all!
5:42 cheat unit- cobra car top left corner, i thought that the urumi swordsmen would be #1
ah nice catch
Damn son cobra eyes 😅 wp
It took me a few minutes to spot it despite your comment bro. Do you have microscopes for eyes or something?
It wasn't visible?
I don’t see it
at least the Teutonic Knights have the most drip
They have their looks, and considering you have time to give a proper look at them I argue for n1
On God
@jacobkorf If in an unavoidable encounter situation Tknights are a nightmare. If in rams knocking out defensive buildings with paladin support you get a death ball from hell
I see what u did there jedi 😉
Drip meaning?
Legionaries also have bonus damage of +4 vs other infantry. So on theyre first attack they deal 25 damage vs other infantry, even acounting for armor they still do like 20 damage in one hit, thats generally between 20-33% of a units hp and even after theyre charge attack they still do 20 damage per hit
teutonic knight is the king of course, see how it shreds huskarls...
Uhhh, samurai?
But so slow to move like elephants. Makes them completely obsolete to be functional in any combat
about the only way to use the unit is to place them around your base like towers.. because they can barely move lmao
To be fair they're really good as defensive troops, if you're reliant on the strat of smashing an initial assault and meeting the opponent with a counterattack - but definitively too slow to be used outside of that
It’s good to defend siege. More of a team death match unit, not that good in rm
Out of all the unit types I love infantry most, probably because for me, the fantasy of medieval battles is pretty much about infantry. I'm glad to see the love infantry is getting the past couple years.
Druzinha Champions are giving you the bombastic side eye rn 🤣
bro he hates Slavs, i remember he put them bottom on a tier list not too long ago.
Champion is expensive and takes time on its own. Druzhina is also somewhat expensive and requires castle. If you fight in post imp death match sure. Booming as pocket in closed type maps like arena sure. But otherwise....
Don't forget the halberdier is a step above the pikeman in terms of swag
I wanted to say Eagle Warriors at first but in the end I decided to predict Gbeto as 1st place
I think dismoutned Konnik is a bit underrated here, especially since it hard counters the unit that is the hard counter to the Konnik.
@@daarom3472I think Dismounted Konniks are actually quite weak. They should probably get the Baggains armor buff lol
Depends on which Eagle warrior in question. Mayan EEW are the only ones that trade well with Paladins. The other 2 double as raiders and anti-archer.
definitely slept on the condottiero, many civs have condottieros that can specialize into niche roles and completely stop metagame civs, even just the italian one is good enough with it's timing to give arbalests, halbs siege, kaimayuks, shotels, normal champions, the entire bohemian and portoguese civs a run for their money, very hard to put it in a category of course but i think it's an honorable mention unit
Lolololol how on Earth is Obuch slept on they are insane
Slow and die to ranged or can be outrun. Way easier to counter than Mayan eagle
Yeah it's like an elephant: it is only as strong as your opponent allows it to be. Being a slow unit means you can't force an engagement. Why would your opponent stand and fight the Obuch with melee units if they excel at it? The answer is they wouldn't, so the Obuch doesn't do much in the practical sense, unless both sides are just patrolling into each other
Obuch eats buildings too
The main reason is slow walk speed. Pro players don't like slow units because they micro manage their units during battles and slow melee units can easily be outmaneuvered.
Elephants do a lot of damage too.. but they are rated poorly because of their walk speed.
I initially was thinking eagle warrior number 1, before seeing anything else, but then when you talked about the kamayuk I got psyched out and thought karambit.
7:35 I'm guessing its the Mayan EEW. Its like a Huskarl with its HP and pierce armor, and it cost effectively trades against Paladins. Not to mention its built from the barracks.
ah yes, the two-feet hussars for the american civs had to be number one haha
Berzerk are awesome in my opinion, they just are in a weird spot to use. In late castle you have all their upgrades when you go longswords, so mix a bit of bzk is a great thing as their move speed and regen make them better than they seem.
But it's hard to justify the upgrade to elite when you age up and have champion available ... Still they are pretty good to fight and raid with
If you have ressources to spend, it's great topick the upgrade and sprinkle some bzk in your armies
Hera might still be traumatized from Daut beating him with Berserkers on Arabia, in Hidden Cup 3
Best looking guy in AoE2
That's what I think. @newname4941
Berserk> Champ in basically every situation tbh. The cost difference is easily paid back by their ability to self heal, the speed boost is really good and the fact that they can trade cost effectively with PALADINS makes them really good as a power unit that you want to pull and overwhelming the opponent with. Mix in some Arbs and you got a very powerful army comp.
Their only downside is that you need a castle to train them, which can affect massing. But the self heal also helps here.
vikings champions are good too against pallys tbh
But I agree with the speed factor. It feels great to have
Just subscribed to your channel keep up the good work brother 👍
Obuch slept on HARD
Obuch are slow. It might be good at lower ELOs, but pro players will outmaneuver slow units. It's like an elephant. Situationally they can be the ideal unit and pros would know best when to use them. They aren't bad, they just aren't flexible enough i think to be considered a top infantry unit in my opinion.
Nothing will ever replace my love for serjeants
2:53 poor ACCM
I was thinking Gbeto... I like Gbetoes more, despite never using them really!
I'd want 6 T.C. Tigui to range/defend against my opponents, I've been wanting to do that sort of stuff - mostly on African Clearing, in this little tournament I've been going through. But as of now... no luck!
Gbeto are great units but kinda squishy very easy to lose a great mass of them. Run them into mass of xbow by mistake or an onager shot and it's a painful loss.
Berserker berserkers are my favorite infantry I just wish they made a mod to give them bear skins.
Celts Woad: *Sonic theme plays as they zoom to destroy your base in a suicide attack, and raid too, not even cavalry archers can keep up with their zoomies*
Hehe check this magic trick of disappearing TC.
Shoutout to the Lithuanian Champion, which they have access to despite lacking Supplies, Gambesons, Blast Furnace, and Plate Mail Armor XD
I'm surprised gbeto didn't make the list, they are actually really strong right now
SICKLE WOMEN WHERE
No mention of Armenians 100hp champions???
1. Either: Eagle warrior because it's versatile and counters both archers and cav pretty decently, is cheap and spamable, runs under TCs, and kills buildings and villagers
Or: Armenians 100hp champions late game
I was so sure Woad Raiders would make the top 5 but when I didn't see them by 3rd I thought they probably didn't make the cut. Didnt expect Kamyuks not played in such a long time forgot how cool they are.
Gbeto is my #1 guess
I was wrong. Though I do think gbeto deserved an honorable mention at least.
As for the number one unit, personally I would've gone for the halberdier followed by the eagle-line, specifically the eagle scout which can be really hard to deal with in feudal. Personally I would've put the Obuch or Gbeto or Urumi Swordsman as #5 over the legionary, but must admit that the fact alone that you can spam legionaries from barracks while only needing a single Centurion near them probably makes them better.
Berserk getting disrespect 😐 They are harder to mass than champs of course but overall a lot more versatile. (Better vs cav, faster moving, higher attack, self-healing) I think they could use a last small buff like +1 pierce armor OR +2 attack OR adjusting the hp that they end up with 80hp as elite to really put them on the top tier infantry units. I don't really see why you hate them so much though. Kinda sad. 😬
They one of the strongest they are just harder to mass and weaker to archers
i think armor or attack buffs would severly overtune them
+5 HP might be good but overall i like their place
maybe a hidden bonus like +1 or 2 attack versus villagers (as viking raids are pretty famous in history)
Im a simple man. I see aoe2 tierlist , i click
One thing about the Halb.
If I got it, I rage at how quickly they die
If i don't have access to them, i miss them so much.
Camels are good, but against elephants and even Cataphract, they aren't cost effective at countering cavs.
I don't understand, you say that halberdiers are a staple unit, when they are made at the parracks !
Surprised shotels weren't here. Especially with how easy they are to mass
tbh i thought it would be the gbetto cause of the high dps the speed and the ability to destroy buildings as a range unit
Eagle warrior and plumed archer is a very fun combo
🤣 I love how I didn't know you hated beserkers. Dang though no Teutonic knight? Is it because they are slow?
Sadly yes
And no pierce armor. And cause they're too powerful seeing how the 30 day trek from barracks to enemy base is bound to have monks not caring that they're conversion resistant
Noob trap UIs for sure bro zerkers and teutonic knights
Even I can micro down Tuetonic knights and I'm the low elo version of DauT when it comes to micro.
@@Mattroid99 That's odd maybe it's because I used them as defense units because I never struggled with infantry. 😅 I just suck at getting to castle before a flush or drush kills me.
Kinda funny to have Halbs above Kamayuks, but in the context of wider application, it makes sense.
Personally I love the Gbetto but I don't think it's particularly strong - still fun tho. Similarly I like Shotel Warriors.
The list as a whole I agree with, it all makes sense. I think the Condottiero deserved an honourable mention for the shere flexibility it provides.
I've played 1000 team ranked games and never make Condottieri. They are good against gun-powder units but gun-powder units don't appear often enough to warrant their use. Condottieri are otherwise just an overpriced champion. They are a niche or specialized unit that is only really good at one thing. I don't know what flexibility you're talking about.
My personal favourites are Eagle Warrior, eutonic knights, huskarls, serjeants, and throwing axemen/gbettos.
I still use your "Ideal Unit Composition For Every Civilization" video as a daily resource when playing random civs and you pointed Berserks as the main unit for Vikings.
Did you change your mind and the video is outdated or am I missing something?
Nice vid, as always
Not sure when that video was made, but MAA line has gotten a lot of buffs. Berserkers are still a good option if your enemy is spamming cavalry/infantry with no archers/castles to back them up, but they die much faster to arrows than champs.
I'd still recommend berserkers if you're fighting a civ like the Goths with their infantry/hand cannon combo in the late game. The extra speed of the berserker might help them chase down the hand cannons while champ's PA doesn't play as much of a role due to the HC's bonus damage. They're mostly there to deal with the Huskarls and protect your own Arbalests though. Or even crossbows really, since Vikings can wipe Goths in Castle.
11:11 Dismounted Konnik? Thats my guess anyway. :Xd
When I heard that roman legionary dies to hand cannoneer I remember how absurd is to have them in a Medieval to Renaissance themed game 😂😂😂
Byzantium fell to cannons so its not thaat crazy
You can deduce #1 by logic thinking because he said "we're gonna get back into unique units for a little bit" at #2 and since helbs were already mentioned and champs are pretty surely worse than legionary and depending on if you count condotiero there's only one non-uu left
tip for top 1: eagle or ghbeto (throwing axeman) or ghulam, maybe teutonic knight (as a meme). Tip is before honorable mention.
I like condottiero too
This was my pick.
the goth italian sling
guess: The Japanese MAA, up there as the most terrifyig units with his comrads the Briton Crossbow and the Elite Mangudai.
but I cant imagine Hera not mentioning Eagles.
I was really hoping samurai was first place hahaha
Guess the #1 is the gurjara's unit. Imo #1 is woad raider though. INCREDIBLY gold efficient. You can wear down just about any combo with them.
I thought it would be the Petard, the king of all infranty vs buildings
no 1 got to be the Chakram thrower for the pass through damage and range
edit: damn. It was in the honorable mentions though
Kinda surprised samurai didn't make the list or even appear in the honourable mentions section. They're really good in their role of countering other civ's unique units and train in only 9 seconds (very nice for when rams are pushing your castle and you want infantry to zone them out).
U blind? They are in honorable mentions...
@@miso689 Oh apparently lol. I completely missed them somehow
Warrior monks are really good aswell tbough
Trouble is that u can't spam them and they get killed by light cav. But they shred everything else. Plus they got cool beards.
My guess was Urumi Swordsman because Dravidians are the best civ and you know it
I wasn't even thinking about eagles simply because they exist to replace cavalry so I don't really consider them infantry, the proof is that they are the initial scout unit for the meso civs
number 1 : Obuch
I think they at least deserved an honorable mention if not a spot on the actual list. I would rather have a bunch of Elite Obuchs than Legionaries for sure. The fact that enemy armor is removed until the damaged unit is FULLY HEALED is huge. Even with monk support, the fact a unit damaged by an Obuch must reach FULL HEALTH to regain the lost armor is HUGE
Obuch mass is so strong
Armor reduction, snowballs so quickly with trash like skirms and it’s crazy cost effective - so cheap for what it is. And how could we forget that attack sound *chefs kiss*
What happened to the Condottiero spam with a Goth coplayer???
I was expecting the Armenia champion/Warrior Priest to at least get a honorable mention.
Mmmm looking at the honourable mentions and I'm now guessing the number 1 infantry unit will be the Gbeto.
Definitely a super fun unit to use
Top 5 infantry units:
1-Champion costing food only.
2-champion that walks faster.
3-champion with +2 melle
...
My guess was eagle warriors, because they're basically infantry knights, and knights are one of the best units in the game.
Surprised condos didn't get into the list even as a honorable mention.
On paper you may think they are good only vs gunpowder but they are incredibly well rounded. You don't need too many upgrades, they are a quick answer in a lot of situations, so strong in early imp, solid stats, decent speed, shreds gunpowder units, easy to produce...
Condottiero not mentioned at all? The only melee unit that counters its counter. And being a teambonus. And being available immediately in imperial age.
Teutonic Knights : Am i a joke to you?
I originally thought the Jag warrior forgetting about the Gbeto until you showed the Chakram thrower.
But I disagree with the eagles, that's definitely a personal preference. Gbeto just have too much going for them.
my guess is mayan eagle warrior. but i think the urumi sworsdman is slept on it counters all melee so hard even teutonic knight. also obuch is strong af for how cheap it is
Eagle Warrior
imo an essy guess
if all civs that get it thinkbits viable to completely switch tech from good arches into infantry ... there has to be a reason
my guess was Condottiero, no annoying upgrades, great stats, trained in barracks, perfect for raiding and killing gunpowder units.
The Dravidian hate is palpable in this video :p
Another honorable mention I think could be Burmese, Japanese and Malians champions. Also Aztec champions, they're all solid 💪🏿
Pike line should be number one. Cheap, bonus vs cav and available starting in feudal
Teutonic Knight with any range backup 100% snowballs anything
Ghulams, Jaguar warriors, and Obuchs: are we a joke to you?
Ghulams are an anti-archer specialist, which are not really needed when everybody has Skirmishers that don't cost gold.
Jaguar Warriors are anti-infantry specialists that struggle against anything else. And they struggle to be cost effective.
Obuchs walk too slow. Pro players don't like slow moving units because they are easily outmaneuvered, just like an elephant.
@@Whisper0ak Yet, they are being used in pro tournaments.
@@WackyConundrum Situationally they can be the ideal unit to counter the enemy army of a certain composition assuming you have the gold. They are specialists that are excellent at what they do but the issue I think is they aren't particularly good outside of their specialty because they are expensive and there is other units that will trade more cost effectively against a diverse or unpredictable enemy army. Pros would know best when the right time to use them is so it's not surprising to see them used there.
They aren't bad units, they are just not flexible enough i think to be considered a top infantry unit. But that's just my criteria and opinion. I don't know Hera's reasoning.
I guessed it right before the honorable mention !
So the best infantry units are units which counter cavalry or counter archers (or even both). Who would have thought?
Is it like the history of Vikings that hurt your ancestors that has you hating berserkers?
Eagle Warriors was an easy guess because you mentioned too often that those other infantry units counter them. You wouldn't do that if they wouldn't invade your nightmares ; )
we all know there is only 1 true contender for the topx spot in this list, teutonic knights just need to show theyre capes and its gg
Warrior priest should be in the list, think you probably forgot about it.
8:48 timestamp - I'm guessing... throwing axemen? They've always been crazy underrated IMO
Edit: ah shucks, yeah fair enough
Hera, the number 1 infantry unit
Eagle warrior is gonna be number 1.
Also do top 5 archer units and top 5 cavalry units pls.
I was guessing condos for first place.
I guess thats more of a multiplayer thing
i pick hera's favorite - the urumi swordsmen! lol!
We would have hoped for : 1. Teutonic Knight, 2. Berserk, 3. Samurai, 4. Jaguar Warrior, 5. Woad Raider. (Based on looks and coolness :PP)
I guessed right, nice!
I guess you could combine your kamayuks with some other infantry unit in front to mop up your enemies even faster?
I thought TK would go on honorable mention, but i guess their weakness to archers is just too great, sure it has 100hp but now that barracks units got gambeson TK now have the same pierce armor as regular champion. 😢
does throwing axeman count? also, I would guess, without looking, Bulgarian twohand swordman
You missed the bonus dmg that the legionary gets against infantry
Vikings UU (I wanna call it "chieftain" but that's a tech I belieb) maybe? I am half cheating if I am right since I have watched a few honorable mentions and not seen it there.
However the thing that makes me question is the statement that "no one will guess it", do villagers count? If so they win by far.
I think condos need an honorable mention too
The graph shown in HC is not your strength, but rather your civ preference.
I was expecting the Warrior Priest to be #1.
Thought number 1 was going to be men at arms, just based off play rates
Before seeing the number one slot. I'm going to say Konnik Knight, because he's free and counters the halbs that try to kill his friends , and wrecks buildings.
Also Konnik is my favourite unit overall.
Then it didn't get mentioned at all!
I don't think Berserkers are that bad, but hey you know best
😂 I probably got this wrong but I am going to say beserker? I hope it's Teutonic knight though just because they are my personal favorite.
Kamayuk it should be mentioned really are not in their prime w/o the UT fabric shields which help a lot against ranged units.
was thinking number 1 would be teutonic knights
My guess is Teutonic knights they are so tanky and very good defensively
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One, devasting counter that Kamayuks have is fully upgraded Cataphract. They just get absolutely murdered by them