This video took a lot of work to make, especially for my editor. I really hope you guys enjoy it! Edit: elephant archers are pretty good right now, dravidians and bengalis can definitely go for them as the power backline unit.
Bro this is awesome! Leaving 2 comments and a like. If I had a single friend who was into gaming I could send this to I would but alas I am a solo ai destroyer.
The way you ‘theorized’ a long time ago the partition of 1 gold 1 trash and 1 siege unit has guided my comp choices ever since- i’m still a pleb so i blame you but still ❤️
Man these videos cover things I didn't even realize I wanted. Nice to see ideal comps for civs I rarely play as well. Hera also confirming my bias that Portuguese late game is scary strong 11.
SotL on being shouted out for the Japanese: "Oh yeah" SotL on seeing Yasama Towers being suggested: * O face intensifies* SotL on seeing Supremacy villagers suggested: *Passes out from sheer pleasure*
This video is very much appreciated Hera and K1. Great quality. I struggle to know what my goal composition should be so this will be an ongoing reference for me.
Dude this a great video. So much info. The fact it’s not just pictures of the units, but the units actually in the game…idk, that’s awesome. That’s a lot of extra work/time taken to make this. So good.
I started watching your videos a few days ago, and as a low elo player it is very helpful to have a video like this that goes over which units comps are ideal for each civ. Big thumbs up.
I just rewatched your video where you spoke about the win condition for Magyar. That video is super helpful for me to think about how to play Magyar. So happy you made an entire video about the idea composition for every civ.
Great video bro. This is what I wanted and asked for in some forums a few months ago but didn't get much response. Most are intuitive enough but it's good to hear your opinion. THANKS BRO AND UR EDITOR GREAT CONTENT. I WISH U HAPPINESS AND SUCCESS
I LOVE playing Khmer knight/hussar + Scorpion/Ballista Elephant. So glad it got a mention Also, Sicilian Cavalier are stronger against all the things cavalier are somewhat weak against when compared to other civs
Would love to see you use your community stuff for youtube, polls announcements, etc. you could get a lot more attention for high effort stuff like this. Help it pop in the algorithm. Loved how precise and efficient this video is!
the bonus damage of Burgundian HC's makes it a perfect 2-shot kill vs. standard FU halberdiers, whereas all other HC's in the game take three. this breakpoint is super relevant when pairing them with cavalry, for obvious reasons
Hi Hera! Thanks for this video, I just recently got into AoE2 for the first time and your guides have been so informative. My struggle now is just deciding how big my arm should be before moving out of my base.
I think I had never really seen a well-made summary of civ comps, only video per civ, which is nice but takes more time, so I think it really can be the go-to video to help both new and a bit more experienced players to get the best comp and not use Malay light cav or Spanish archers as main army in a 45+ minute arena team game, I think mostly it all sums up to: Archer civ= archer/cav archer + halb/hussar + treb/bombard cannon (siege ram depending the case) Cavalry civ= cav/camel + skirms/HC + treb/bombard cannon Infantry civ = halb/champion/eagle warrior + skirms/ archer (double gold in some cases like meso civs) + usually SO/ treb/ siege ram As a Malian fan I was waiting for the pseudo huskarl champion mention but I guess IT DEPENDS as always. Amazing work from you and the editor, keep it up! :D
2:23 I'm not really a high skill player myself but I found for myself that halbs work great with a mix of all three archery range units (they get the hand cannon an age earlier)
Surprised not to see the hussars from Burmese mentioned, nor the nearly FU CA from Spanish (although tbf I'm probably a bigger proponent of that than most people :p ). Good video! It's interesting to see how ubiquitous the strong ranged siege options are.
yeah Spanish CA can be a little more situational but Burmese Hussars with UT especially is definitely a very solid trash unit for them - they basically become Persian knights with 2.5 times the extra damage against archer civs
I'd always go conqs as Spanish. It's an all around better unit. Even if you're melee civ, if you have thumb Ring you go CA against Teutons, but even then conqs work better. Only problem is Castles.
Loved this video! I think Vietnamese also have a great late game comp with imperial skirm + elite battle elephant. But the rattan archer is really strong too so I'll try that one out as well. :)
Absolutely wonderful video. I would love a civ guide book with this. Each page could have the tech tree, bonuses, maybe references to build orders and these compositions.
For the Byzantine, I suggest a minor change where frontline units are the combination of Cataphracts and Camel Riders instead of Halberdiers, escorted by skirmishers and trebuchets. I know this is rather gold intensive, especially when factoring upgrade but I feel like this combination is much deadlier, especially when considering that the "trash" combo cannot effectively deal with onagers or even scorpions
First of all: Really nice video. Second of all: How sad is it that there were neither Battle Elephants nor Elephant Archers present in any of those compositions? (Because they suck, which is kinda sad)
Great video, thank you for all your hard work. We might see many more high-level players who have watched your videos. I would question Bengalis after the updates. Viper just played Vivi and skirmishers are no longer a counter to elephant archers. This makes sense since skirms counter ratha. Therefore, I would go push with ratha + elephant archers in front of armored monks, and siege elephants. This sounds like a lot of gold, but Bengalis have such terrible late game (no hussar, no plate armor for infantry) they need to push the map to take the open resources. I would start with elephant archers and monks first as it takes some time to build up rathas. Then when the opponent brings in CA counter with rathas. For dravidians I would not use any other infantry besides Urami swordsmen. Their charge attacks with Wootz steel are the best choice. Again, after the patch, elephant archers are not hard countered by skirmishers. With 25% greater attack and thumb ring, you have to use them. EA and Urami followed by siege elephants and bbc should do the trick.
@@gherlwinfireson8582 Bengalis late game is so terrible. No final armor for halbs, no hussar, only elite skirm are the fully upgraded trash unit. You will die to almost every civ. It is necessary to push the map with gold units and take map control.
Loved the format, easy to listen to and appreciated the gaps between civs, helped me process what I'd just heard. I wonder if cutting footage from games where you played the civ would be easier on the editor for future videos like this. Problem would be it might not exactly match the comp content being discussed but I think it would be visually engaging
Hera's recommendations are for high level players too like for turkey for example, the janissary is much more dummy proof than cav archers but if you can micro like Hera the cav archers are the way to go for gold units, same goes for his recommendations for Bulgaria and Celts IMHO their unique units are pretty ez and effective though I admit you can do some big moves without them too otherwise I generally agree
Seeing the goth part: Who goes for siege as - oh hera said it now xD Seeing the teuton part: Not recommending pala and bad trash? Must be before the armor upgrade... Also: Etk + ram = og teuton tactic
Obuch is said as Obu and H as in Hook, in Poland we use both H and CH as H in hook, just depends on the word. So basicly you skip that "c" in obuch as if it would be Obuh with h-(ook) Greetings from Poland :)
Hi Hera, why are there so much more Arb+Halb comps compared to Cavalier+Skirm? Also, feels weird none of the suggested Pole comps include the insanely cheap Cavalier!
I think it's because it's not really worth it. Turning the Cavalier into a semi-trash unit sounds great on paper but you have to make a lot of units to make up for the research cost. Doesn't help that Hussars seem much more versatile despite their inferior stats and upgrade cost (you can save much more gold in late game for more sieges and crossbowmen)
They are great if you want to raid your opponent during Castle Age. Problem is that by the late Imperial age, you are better of saving your dwindling gold on sieges
I feel like it's a bit situational. It's really good if you have control over multiple gold mines on the map to keep the troops creation going but I think it's a bit gold intensive (especially when factoring upgrades). That and cavaliers can be a bit slow compared to hussars
I'd add magonels and mamelukes to the Saracens roster if you have good micro you can pull out some crazy KDs with the only thing being able to counter them being a very gold expensive mix of cannons halbs and onagers
Hey, thanks for the tips! Any chance you'll update this by adding the newest civs as well, and/or any other changes to the mentioned unit comps? This has been a lifesaver for new players like myself!
With byzantines I like to go arb+ alb using going imp faster thanks to the bonus and just go for the kill with arbalest power spike or doing double gold with arb+ camel or arb + cata against meso and goths
For some civs, like Celts, you have overlooked the Scorpion. 40% health and faster creation rate is insanely strong. The upgrade doesnt cost gold and its got AoE damage that doesnt kill your rams/pikes/woads.
Teuton’s halb+onagers is just so slow in castle age. Therefore, I go knight(+TK against pikes) to be mobile. In Late Game with less gold, I just go halb+BBC. Also scouts can raid enemy base 😜
Hey hera absolutely loved this video. Would you be able to make a paper guide/ website I would be able to reference for this entire video? Amazing content as always!
My turk comp is always 40% Janissaries, 10% Bombards, 60% Hussars. The startegy is use the hussars to tie up and slow down whatever the enemy is using in melee, while the Janis and extra long range bombards just fill them with lead, allowing you to even beat paladins while losing almost nothing but trash units. The reasoning is, the only things that really threaten massed janissaries are skirms (easily countered by hussars) and onager shots. The only weakness is you have to closely watch and make sure you snipe the onagers with hussars before they can get close.
I come back to this video every so often just to check what I should be playing towards with each civ. Hera I really like conqs is there an optimal late game option that includes them for Spanish?
In my experience the best comp for Sicilians is Cavalier + Halb. You don't really need the skirms to counter enemy units cuz of the 8 pierce armor on the cav and the bonus damage reduction. But when your enemy matches your cav you are usually out of luck since paladins are stronger in straight up melee fights. Hence the halbs in this comp. How do you feel about it?
Its not that it doesnt make sense, but double melee comp will always be awkward simply because of how the game works, it will require a lot of micro for your engages to be decently efficient. You can use it if it works for you but double melee is a no-no as a rule of thumb
I like it, good reasoning there. Altho next patch its only 33% bonus damage reduction so i think skirms might be necessary. Ofc if opponent is on cav then halb is better
Hey if you got a script try using a nice fluffy blanket on you and, mic and screen to help tone down the echo. Would make a major improvement to the audio quality.
For the Poles, I suggest maybe sprinkle in some Obuch instead of going full Winged Hussars for melee units. If your opponent goes skirmisher and paladins escorted by scorpions you are pretty much done for because of lack of efficient counter. The Obuch can literally break the armor of Paladins to allow Winged Hussars to deal more damage to the Paladins
So this is kinda a confirmation bias on what I had for certain civs. I’ve tried to make unit comps work but it just seems to fail and now I’m seeing it’s because they just aren’t their “best option”. Particularly the Vikings, Burmese, Teutons, Huns stood out the most for me.
the teutons could have heavy scorpions instead of catapults or ranged units, since they get extra armor they are viable in melee fights and they're cheaper than catapults too
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This video took a lot of work to make, especially for my editor. I really hope you guys enjoy it!
Edit: elephant archers are pretty good right now, dravidians and bengalis can definitely go for them as the power backline unit.
Bro this is awesome! Leaving 2 comments and a like. If I had a single friend who was into gaming I could send this to I would but alas I am a solo ai destroyer.
Thank you for making this video. I requested it so I feel so special 💓
Good job.
Thank You for your content and sharing it so well 😀
liked commented subscribed and shared, am getting into the game, and you are an amazing teacher. thank you for your videos.
00:48 - 01:25 Aztecs: Eagle warrior + skirmisher + monk + trebuchet
01:25 - 01:57 Bengalis: ratha + halberdier/skirmisher/light cav + elephants/trebuchet
01:57 - 02:23 Berbers: camel archer + hussar + bombard cannon/trebuchet
02:23 - 02:50 Bohemians: halberdier + houfnice + arbalester
02:50 - 03:41 Britons: longbowman/arbalester + halberdier + trebuchet
03:41 - 04:19 Bulgarians: hussar + siege onager/ram + halberdier
04:19 - 05:16 Burgundians: coustillier + hand cannoneer + bombard cannon/trebuchet (+flemish rev if +140 vills)
05:16 - 05:41 Burmese: halberdier + arambay + monk + bombard cannon/trebuchet
05:41 - 06:24 Byzantines: halberdier + skirmisher + monk + bombard cannon/trebuchet + catafracts/ heavy camel/hand cannoneer (depending on enemy)
06:24 - 06:47 Celts: halberdier + siege onager + siege ram + trebuchet
06:47 - 07:11 Chinese: chu ko nu/arbalester + light cav + trebouchet
07:11 - 07:30 Cumans: elite kipchak + hussar + trebuchet
07:30 - 08:04 Dravidians: skirmisher + halberdier/champion/urumi swordsman + bombard cannon (+ arbalester if needed)
08:04 - 08:27 Ethiopians: arbalester + halberdier + bombard cannon
08:27 - 09:09 Franks: paladin spam (good vs halb) + skirmisher/hand cannoneer/throwing axeman (if needed against enemy halberdier) + strong castle push/imp with +4 relics
09:09 - 09:43 Goths: halberdier + huskarl spam + bombard cannon/trebuchet if needed
09:43 - 10:22 Gurjaras: chakram thrower + shrivamsha rider/hussar + bombard cannon/trebuchet
10:22 - 10:55 Hindustanis: 1) hand cannoneer + hussar + bombard cannon/trebuchet 2) imperial camel + skirmisher + bombard cannon/trebuchet
10:55 - 11:08 Huns: heavy cav archer + hussar + trebuchet
11:08 - 11:48 Incas: kamayuk (vs cav civ)/elite eagle (vs archer civ) + skirmisher + trebuchet/siege ram
11:48 - 12:33 Italians: genoese crossbowman + hussar + bombard cannon
12:33 - 13:09 Japanese: halberdier + arbalester + yasama (tower) + trebuchet
13:09 - 13:51 Khmer: hussar spam + heavy scorpion/ballista elephant/arbalester + trebuchet
13:51 - 14:24 Koreans: halberdier + arbalester/war wagons (if enough res) + tower + bombard cannon/trebuchet
14:24 - 14:51 Lithuanians: elite leitis (with relics) + skrmishers + bombard cannon/trebuchet
14:51 - 15:20 Magyars: heavy cav archer + magyar hussar + trebuchet
15:20 - 15:56 Malay: halberdier + arbalester + bombard cannon
15:56 - 16:22 Malians: cavalier/light cav/heavy camel + gbeto/hand cannoneer + bombard cannon
16:22 - 17:01 Mayans: halberdier/elite eagle + arbalester/plumed archer + siege ram/trebuchet
17:01 - 17:34 Mongols: mangudai + hussar + siege ram/onager
17:34 - 17:57 Persians: paladin (no elephants) + crossbowman/skirmisher + bombard cannon/trebuchet
17:57 - 18:36 Poles: 1) winged hussar + arbalester + bombard cannon/trebuchet 2) obuch + skirmisher + bombard cannon/trebuchet
18:36 - 19:34 Portuguese: arbalester/organ gun + light cav/halbardier + bombard cannon + feitoria + bombard tower
19:34 - 20:21 Saracens: 1) arbalester/heavy cav archer + light cav + bombard cannon/trebuchet 2) heavy camel + skirmisher + bombard cannon/trebuchet 3) mameluke spam (vs cav civ) + bombard cannon/trebuchet
20:21 - 20:59 Sicilians: cavalier(w/UT)/serjeant + skirmishers + trebuchet
20:59 - 21:16 Slavs: halberdier + hussar + siege onager/ram
21:16 - 21:42 Spanish: supremacy->bombard tower + halberdier + hussar
21:42 - 22:15 Tatars: 1) heavy cav archer + hussar + trebuchet 2) keshik + skirmisher + trebuchet
22:15 - 22:54 Teutons: halberdier + monk + siege onager/bombard cannon/trebuchet
22:54 - 23:23 Turks: heavy cav archer + hussar + bombard cannon
23:23 - 23:43 Vietnamese: rattan archer + halberdier + bombard cannon
23:43 - 24:14 Vikings: skirmisher + berserker + siege ram/trebuchet
The way you ‘theorized’ a long time ago the partition of 1 gold 1 trash and 1 siege unit has guided my comp choices ever since- i’m still a pleb so i blame you but still ❤️
Oooor you just could go for Hussars and spam them in every direction possible 😜
Man these videos cover things I didn't even realize I wanted. Nice to see ideal comps for civs I rarely play as well.
Hera also confirming my bias that Portuguese late game is scary strong 11.
What does putting "11" after comments mean? I keep seeing it in these videos comments.
@@PlanetFromOuterSpace it's Age of Empires speak for: "hahahaha"
@@Blooticus Thanks!
Fellow Braves fan that came across your comment. Let's gooooooo!!
SotL on being shouted out for the Japanese: "Oh yeah"
SotL on seeing Yasama Towers being suggested: * O face intensifies*
SotL on seeing Supremacy villagers suggested: *Passes out from sheer pleasure*
This video is very much appreciated Hera and K1. Great quality. I struggle to know what my goal composition should be so this will be an ongoing reference for me.
Dude this a great video. So much info. The fact it’s not just pictures of the units, but the units actually in the game…idk, that’s awesome. That’s a lot of extra work/time taken to make this. So good.
I started watching your videos a few days ago, and as a low elo player it is very helpful to have a video like this that goes over which units comps are ideal for each civ. Big thumbs up.
REALLY nice esp because you included bookmarks. Thank you!
Awesome video and editing. My ideal comps used to always just be max UU and some trebs lol. This vid really helps to show the strengths of each civ.
Awsome content, I just saved so I could check at the start of games. Thanks Hera!
I just rewatched your video where you spoke about the win condition for Magyar. That video is super helpful for me to think about how to play Magyar. So happy you made an entire video about the idea composition for every civ.
Both the quality and rythm in which you are putting out this content is insane. Don't get burned out! 🙏
Great video bro. This is what I wanted and asked for in some forums a few months ago but didn't get much response. Most are intuitive enough but it's good to hear your opinion. THANKS BRO AND UR EDITOR GREAT CONTENT. I WISH U HAPPINESS AND SUCCESS
Uve said some very nasty things in comments before so i do appreciate u sending some positivity my way for a change. Thank you
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 All in good fun didn't know u read comments lmao
This has to be the most useful video you have posted yet.
Thank you Hera and to your editor too for the amazing content!
I LOVE playing Khmer knight/hussar + Scorpion/Ballista Elephant. So glad it got a mention
Also, Sicilian Cavalier are stronger against all the things cavalier are somewhat weak against when compared to other civs
what about updating this one? this is already 1yo and it's one of the most useful videos i've ever seen
Wow, incredible video. This is genuine AoE2 textbook, thank you Hera!
Massively appreciate this video! Excellent, loved it from start to finish.
Good as usual! This is honestly huge for 800 elo newbie…
Would love to see you use your community stuff for youtube, polls announcements, etc. you could get a lot more attention for high effort stuff like this. Help it pop in the algorithm. Loved how precise and efficient this video is!
Ukraine is gay. See my video on the swastika in the NATO logo. Gay Nazis.... Wow. That's even worse than Nazi zombies. Truthphobes, get triggered.
Great video :) I’m already waiting for part two dealing with castle age. Have a feeling quite a few of these ideal comps will look different there.
Got this video in my favorite and watching it each time I am trying a new civ. This video is gold. Thx Hera.
What a wonderful reference! Thank you for the work you put in to these videos!
Amazing! Thanks for giving back to the community! It's much appreciated by us casual gamers!
the bonus damage of Burgundian HC's makes it a perfect 2-shot kill vs. standard FU halberdiers, whereas all other HC's in the game take three. this breakpoint is super relevant when pairing them with cavalry, for obvious reasons
Only the tatar halb die 2 shot.
17+4+10=31 damage
-4=27 to generic FU halb
@@ninggengjapchae gunpowder ignores armour
@@ninggengjapchae nope! the +25% damage applies to bonus damage too.
@@ninggengjapchae You forgot a +1 bonus dmg vs the Spearline specifically. (Same category as the Skirms +3 vs Halbs)
Great aoe2 study from u guys thx all~
Hi Hera! Thanks for this video, I just recently got into AoE2 for the first time and your guides have been so informative. My struggle now is just deciding how big my arm should be before moving out of my base.
As soon as 3 units!
If you wait to mass up 40+ units, you're giving your opponent time to go for their ideal comp too..
I wish there was a button to MEGA-like all your videos.
Thanks for all for the effort that you put into making the videos. I thoroughly enjoy them.
I randomed into Burmese and didn't know what to do with their late game. So I just followed your suggestions and won. Thank you for that.
Wow! This took a lot of work to make this video. Great work Hera!
Great video Hera! Super helpful and interesting topic!
I think I had never really seen a well-made summary of civ comps, only video per civ, which is nice but takes more time, so I think it really can be the go-to video to help both new and a bit more experienced players to get the best comp and not use Malay light cav or Spanish archers as main army in a 45+ minute arena team game, I think mostly it all sums up to:
Archer civ= archer/cav archer + halb/hussar + treb/bombard cannon (siege ram depending the case)
Cavalry civ= cav/camel + skirms/HC + treb/bombard cannon
Infantry civ = halb/champion/eagle warrior + skirms/ archer (double gold in some cases like meso civs) + usually SO/ treb/ siege ram
As a Malian fan I was waiting for the pseudo huskarl champion mention but I guess IT DEPENDS as always. Amazing work from you and the editor, keep it up! :D
2:23
I'm not really a high skill player myself but I found for myself that halbs work great with a mix of all three archery range units (they get the hand cannon an age earlier)
Surprised not to see the hussars from Burmese mentioned, nor the nearly FU CA from Spanish (although tbf I'm probably a bigger proponent of that than most people :p ).
Good video! It's interesting to see how ubiquitous the strong ranged siege options are.
yeah Spanish CA can be a little more situational but Burmese Hussars with UT especially is definitely a very solid trash unit for them - they basically become Persian knights with 2.5 times the extra damage against archer civs
I'd always go conqs as Spanish. It's an all around better unit. Even if you're melee civ, if you have thumb Ring you go CA against Teutons, but even then conqs work better. Only problem is Castles.
Thank you very much! Awesome video ❤️
15:56 you can also go malian champion with farimba cavalier if you go against archer civs specifically
actually not a fan of that. 2 melee units is a bit of a weird thing
These videos are aesthetically pleasing, you and your editor are definitely stepping it up my man. That's some pro stuff right there
helped me alot , keep making those training videos :)
I can tell you put your heart in this one, cheers Hera
Loved this video! I think Vietnamese also have a great late game comp with imperial skirm + elite battle elephant. But the rattan archer is really strong too so I'll try that one out as well. :)
Great vid! Would love to see a similar vid of quick talking points about each civs power spike windows or main "win condition" soon!
Love your video idea about win condition! Hope Hera makes it.
15:10 it doesn't hurt to mix in a few regular hussar to deal with monks! And because castle units can be hard to mass.
Absolutely wonderful video. I would love a civ guide book with this. Each page could have the tech tree, bonuses, maybe references to build orders and these compositions.
Such a good guide, keep up the good work mate! Like dropped as always
Huge work , well done man!
So well crafted! Love the content, brother. Keep it coming
Thank you sir 😎
Awesome format and very insightful!
I love the way he pointed out the Teuton inflexibility in post late game with paladin
thank you so much, i was just asking for this
Great vid as usual Hera. Would be great to see a video around composition switches for different civs/situations sometime.
I been waiting for this video for so longggg thnksss
Ideal Bengalis composition is ctr+alt+del and End Task
Keep making these type of videos guys
When I play random civ I often get wrecked in late game cause I don't know what I should be going for, so this is so helpful, thank you bro
It sounds a bit you also couldnt believe it first, that you will suggest that spanish composition :D 21:29
For the Byzantine, I suggest a minor change where frontline units are the combination of Cataphracts and Camel Riders instead of Halberdiers, escorted by skirmishers and trebuchets. I know this is rather gold intensive, especially when factoring upgrade but I feel like this combination is much deadlier, especially when considering that the "trash" combo cannot effectively deal with onagers or even scorpions
The power of throwing axeman is that they use both the cheaper castle bonus and the same attack upgrades that the paladin
poles cheap kts are so good to ignore, much much better than going hussar. Thanks for the video!
Ive been finding success with pike, skirms, monks and treb/bbc while running around with a few knights or light cav to pick off vills and siege.
The best composition is the friends we made along the way 💜
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Surprised this wasn't just shorts video saying "scout line"
Oh you have a unique unit? That's cute. Best I can do is halberdiers.
First of all: Really nice video.
Second of all: How sad is it that there were neither Battle Elephants nor Elephant Archers present in any of those compositions?
(Because they suck, which is kinda sad)
Ele archers just got a buff so we will see over the next patch how that plays out
Yeah ele archers might be good now, and for battle eles they are solid in TGs but too easily countered in 1v1
Cool Video Hera! Sadly I cannot learn anything from it cause Fast Imp Arbs is just too satisfying to use for me, but nice vid nonetheless!
Great video, thank you for all your hard work. We might see many more high-level players who have watched your videos.
I would question Bengalis after the updates. Viper just played Vivi and skirmishers are no longer a counter to elephant archers. This makes sense since skirms counter ratha. Therefore, I would go push with ratha + elephant archers in front of armored monks, and siege elephants. This sounds like a lot of gold, but Bengalis have such terrible late game (no hussar, no plate armor for infantry) they need to push the map to take the open resources. I would start with elephant archers and monks first as it takes some time to build up rathas. Then when the opponent brings in CA counter with rathas.
For dravidians I would not use any other infantry besides Urami swordsmen. Their charge attacks with Wootz steel are the best choice. Again, after the patch, elephant archers are not hard countered by skirmishers. With 25% greater attack and thumb ring, you have to use them. EA and Urami followed by siege elephants and bbc should do the trick.
Probably that’s the best comp, but we have to think about the *ideal* comp, with some trash units mixed in.
@@gherlwinfireson8582 Bengalis late game is so terrible. No final armor for halbs, no hussar, only elite skirm are the fully upgraded trash unit. You will die to almost every civ. It is necessary to push the map with gold units and take map control.
@@mikelivingood7797 good points 👍👍👍
Great video! But we all know light cav/hussar spam is your ideal comp regardless of civ
Loved the format, easy to listen to and appreciated the gaps between civs, helped me process what I'd just heard. I wonder if cutting footage from games where you played the civ would be easier on the editor for future videos like this. Problem would be it might not exactly match the comp content being discussed but I think it would be visually engaging
Hera's recommendations are for high level players too like for turkey for example, the janissary is much more dummy proof than cav archers but if you can micro like Hera the cav archers are the way to go for gold units, same goes for his recommendations for Bulgaria and Celts IMHO their unique units are pretty ez and effective though I admit you can do some big moves without them too otherwise I generally agree
Amazing. Thank you for all the work you put in for us noobies
Seeing the goth part: Who goes for siege as - oh hera said it now xD
Seeing the teuton part: Not recommending pala and bad trash? Must be before the armor upgrade... Also: Etk + ram = og teuton tactic
2:42 i've just return to this game after a decade, bohemians and burgundians aren't they part of the game Age of Chivalry franchise??
It’s good to know the compositions that I will try but probably not manage to get 1111 Awesome video though, for real!
Obuch is said as Obu and H as in Hook, in Poland we use both H and CH as H in hook, just depends on the word. So basicly you skip that "c" in obuch as if it would be Obuh with h-(ook)
Greetings from Poland :)
Hi Hera, why are there so much more Arb+Halb comps compared to Cavalier+Skirm?
Also, feels weird none of the suggested Pole comps include the insanely cheap Cavalier!
Did hear that Polish Cavalier is missing Blacksmith upgrades in exchange for create cost.
@@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 But STILL tho.
I think it's because it's not really worth it. Turning the Cavalier into a semi-trash unit sounds great on paper but you have to make a lot of units to make up for the research cost. Doesn't help that Hussars seem much more versatile despite their inferior stats and upgrade cost (you can save much more gold in late game for more sieges and crossbowmen)
@@quakethedoombringer I understand your point, but it is most certainly worth it. :)
I’m surprised the Vietnamese comp didn’t include Imperial skirm. Is there a particular reasoning why it’s not ideal for the late game? Thanks!
If his opponent just spams siege and champions, he is doomed. Also I think it doesn't utlize gold very well for the firepower I presume
Maybe a bit noob, but isn't elite Woad Raider a good unit to go for with the Celts?
Can be strong in mid game but it's not great use of gold for endgame comp
They are great if you want to raid your opponent during Castle Age. Problem is that by the late Imperial age, you are better of saving your dwindling gold on sieges
Isn't it possible for Poles to go for Cavalier + Arbalest? Especially if you have relic advantage
I feel like it's a bit situational. It's really good if you have control over multiple gold mines on the map to keep the troops creation going but I think it's a bit gold intensive (especially when factoring upgrades). That and cavaliers can be a bit slow compared to hussars
I'd add magonels and mamelukes to the Saracens roster if you have good micro you can pull out some crazy KDs with the only thing being able to counter them being a very gold expensive mix of cannons halbs and onagers
Great video!! Appreciate it
Hey, thanks for the tips! Any chance you'll update this by adding the newest civs as well, and/or any other changes to the mentioned unit comps? This has been a lifesaver for new players like myself!
With byzantines I like to go arb+ alb using going imp faster thanks to the bonus and just go for the kill with arbalest power spike or doing double gold with arb+ camel or arb + cata against meso and goths
For some civs, like Celts, you have overlooked the Scorpion. 40% health and faster creation rate is insanely strong. The upgrade doesnt cost gold and its got AoE damage that doesnt kill your rams/pikes/woads.
Teuton’s halb+onagers is just so slow in castle age. Therefore, I go knight(+TK against pikes) to be mobile. In Late Game with less gold, I just go halb+BBC. Also scouts can raid enemy base 😜
I like to play Slavs differently than Hera presented as well!
Can someone please make a mod so that this video starts playing on the game loading screen for each civ i pick?
Wow, the Spanish comp surprised me. Instead of the MBL style you can also choose the Survivalist style and go Conqs and Donks
Hey hera absolutely loved this video. Would you be able to make a paper guide/ website I would be able to reference for this entire video? Amazing content as always!
No i cant make that but some community members might be able to make one eventually
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 why did you stop your amazing BO doc :(
Was well worth a sub
@@forsakenquery I agree the build order docs are amazing!
Hera´s videos are like AOE2 University
Wow so good, i will need to subscribe on Twitch :D
My turk comp is always 40% Janissaries, 10% Bombards, 60% Hussars. The startegy is use the hussars to tie up and slow down whatever the enemy is using in melee, while the Janis and extra long range bombards just fill them with lead, allowing you to even beat paladins while losing almost nothing but trash units. The reasoning is, the only things that really threaten massed janissaries are skirms (easily countered by hussars) and onager shots. The only weakness is you have to closely watch and make sure you snipe the onagers with hussars before they can get close.
I come back to this video every so often just to check what I should be playing towards with each civ. Hera I really like conqs is there an optimal late game option that includes them for Spanish?
Great video, as for Poles, would you not use their cheap cavalier?
In my experience the best comp for Sicilians is Cavalier + Halb. You don't really need the skirms to counter enemy units cuz of the 8 pierce armor on the cav and the bonus damage reduction. But when your enemy matches your cav you are usually out of luck since paladins are stronger in straight up melee fights. Hence the halbs in this comp. How do you feel about it?
Its not that it doesnt make sense, but double melee comp will always be awkward simply because of how the game works, it will require a lot of micro for your engages to be decently efficient. You can use it if it works for you but double melee is a no-no as a rule of thumb
Yep that's a better comp for Sicilians
I like it, good reasoning there. Altho next patch its only 33% bonus damage reduction so i think skirms might be necessary. Ofc if opponent is on cav then halb is better
Hey if you got a script try using a nice fluffy blanket on you and, mic and screen to help tone down the echo. Would make a major improvement to the audio quality.
For the Poles, I suggest maybe sprinkle in some Obuch instead of going full Winged Hussars for melee units. If your opponent goes skirmisher and paladins escorted by scorpions you are pretty much done for because of lack of efficient counter. The Obuch can literally break the armor of Paladins to allow Winged Hussars to deal more damage to the Paladins
Very good video
Love the content
So this is kinda a confirmation bias on what I had for certain civs. I’ve tried to make unit comps work but it just seems to fail and now I’m seeing it’s because they just aren’t their “best option”.
Particularly the Vikings, Burmese, Teutons, Huns stood out the most for me.
pretty often recomended light cav + cav archers ? isnt there lack of response to heavy cav ?
Gonna play some random and keep this video playing on loop.
So with Japanese you don't like to use Samurai? Or just supplement the halbadier/arbalest combo with Samurai as necessary?
the teutons could have heavy scorpions instead of catapults or ranged units, since they get extra armor they are viable in melee fights and they're cheaper than catapults too