Very nice video. Bonus tip: long socks. Never wear short socks, as they could revel bare skin, especially when you are assuming certain positions sitting. The color: the "ton sur ton" solution is the most classic and involves the choice of a sock that recalls the chromatic tones of the trousers or shoes. Brown socks with brown shoes or pants; black socks on black shoes or pants, and so on. The color tone should be a little bit lighter or darker so that it is noticeable, but with a pleasant chromatic transition. Last but not least: never, in any situation, wear white socks. They are bad.
I laughed out loud reading this one. It’s so true. Even the best shoes and best suit will be ruined by a pair of hairy legs. One minor correction: white socks are allowed on vintage sneakers. ;-)
Thank you for this video! As a soon-to-be first generation professional, figuring out how to dress causes me much anxiety, but I’m very eager to learn!
Hi Kevin, yes in principle agree! In most organizations, it will be OK to dress up slightly more as a consultant compared to a regular employee though, you will usually adjust to the dresscode of the C-level / senior management (which in most organizations means a suit without tie nowadays). Best! Heinrich
@@FirmLearning Absolutely regarding c-suite, steering committee, etc. Just always important to know the culture before going into any client. But none-the-less love your insight and tips!
Hi, frankly not sure I would be qualified to make a good video on this by myself, but might pair with a female consultant in the future :) Best, Heinrich
There are a lot of videos out there on how to dress as a male consultant, but rather few on how to dress as a female consultant. So if you find the time and a female consultant to support you on the topic, a video would be great
Dear Heinrich, it would be great to see a similar video for women, maybe as a cooperation with a female youtuber. As there aren't such set rules for us I find it even harder to pick the right wardrobe.
I found that two navy blue suits and one charcoal suit with two white and two light blue shirts with spread collars worked really well for me for my most recent big 4 vacationer placement. Charles Tyrwhitt was amazing as well because you get a student discount.
Great video Heinrich! I would add that the FIT of a suit or shirt is maybe the most important thing. I often see people wearing expensive brands, but one or two sizes too large which makes them look odd. You could better buy a few 50€ shirts that perfectly follow the contours of your body than a 300€ shirt with way too much loose fabric ;)
Very interested in female style please :) In addition, tips on how to manage your calendar for meetings. Thank you very much, love your content. Liked and subscribed.
If i wore a light pink shirt (simple plain) , with dark blue suits and black tie, is that decent enough, I like to be slightly different from the rest but also follow the general rules. You content is really awesome and interesting, keep up the good work, I am a college student that is aiming to go HBS for my MBA, your videos definitely gives me a guide on what to do and learn, thanks for the generous content that you share to aspiring students! Keep up the good work Heinrich!
Hi Hans, thanks for your comment! Would not recommend wearing a light pink shirt, this would be very unusual to say the least. Stick with light blues and whites :) Best, Heinrich
Hi Daniel, indeed trust other colors will be OK as will with the right combination, but this will be more challenging to pull off in a good way :) Just requires a bit more stylstic command. Best, H
Great Video, as always! However, there are some small points that I want to adress: 1. Black suits: You correctly pointed out that you should never wear a black suit to a business occasion, but I would go one step further and say that you can only ever wear a black suit to a funeral. For formal occasions, either a tuxedo will be required, which you can rent if you do nor own one, or you will be better off with a dark navy suit than with a black suit. Black suits give the impression that you know nothing about correct clothing IMHO. 2. Button-down shirts: Some more conservative people(at least in Europe) would consider button down shirts inappropriate for any business occasion. 3. Shoes: Your points were all correct, but some additional details: The Oxford shoe is characterized by the eyelets (the parts where the shoelaces ho through)being sown to the main part of the shoe on the bottom, i.e. you cannot reach under the lacing from the bottom with your fingers. This is a small detail but people will notice. Also an Oxford shoe can be a Brogue at the same time, but as you said correctly, brogues are less formal. Many people also tend to underestimate the importance of good quality shoes: You sometimes walk a lot during a business day and want your feet to be in a great condition. So these are just my small remarks - Heinrich, thank you for your amazing video, I am looking forward to the next one!
Thank you for the video. I am not a first generation academic, but I am a first generation corporate/business-world participant. So these types of situations have been often appearing for me - what to wear, how to wear, etc., since these are not things that are common on my surroundings.
Great Video! What about Brands? Any brands that are over the top like with the watches or too cheap? Is a Zara suit seen as bad even when the style is the right one?
Hi, in principle there is no focus on brands, you should avoid very visible luxurious brands and rather focus on quality. Would advise against Zara suits as they are often from cheap materials (lots of polyester etc.) Best move is to have very high quality things (potentially also from expensive brands) but the brands are not very visible ;) Best, H
While ties are becoming less common. It would be nice to know what kind of knots are "acceptable." I often choose unusual ones like the Van Wijk or trinity.
Hi, to be honest needed to google the knots you were referring to. Have frankly never seen anyone wear them, believe they do look a little bit funky ;) On the other hand, you could make something like this your "trademark".. difficult to give hard right vs. wrong advice on this. Best! Heinrich
From a British standpoint: Anything that draws attention away from your face is a no go. The objective of a suit is to blend in so much that it cannot be remembered for anything except fitting well. Your face and personality should be your memorable traits. From what I've gathered, Italians think differently though.
Not sure I am the biggest expert on this topic.. just would not pick something too heavy and noticeable, more subtle should be the way :) Thanks for watching! Best, Heinrich
Hi Heinrich, thank you for this video! Some great insights in there. I’ve got a question for you, in terms of the trousers you wear (in case you’re not wearing a suit but just a shirt instead) what colour recommendations would you suggest? Thank you!
Thanks for the video, Heinrich! Since you have worked at Accenture, what are your thoughts on the dress code on Accenture projects? Are they similar to the MBB? Thank you!
Hi Heinrich, thank you for the tips! Question about the colour of the suit - are lighter grey/blue suits acceptable? Or would they also be considered too casual?
Hi Igor, lighter suits are definitely considered more casual, especially light blue. Depends a bit on the exact shade, but in general would not advise to wear a light blue suit / looks a bit like a summer and vacation outfit :) Best, Heinrich
Awesome content! I think we have similar tastes. The guidelines are helpful to reign in my decision making while shopping. It makes me want to upgrade my wardrobe right this second! I appreciate that you don't plug products in your content, but can you - or any of the viewers - recommend any favorite brands?
Hi Juan, the one that I was showing are from Ed Meier. Another (slightly more affordable) brand that I like to wear as "everyday beater" are the shoes from Floris van Bommel. Best! Heinrich
Great video. I agree with the brown shoes, I think it is getting more common to see them also in offices. But in general the old rule oftentimes still holds true: No brown in town!
Personally I also do only rarely wear brown shoes for business purposes / find them quite casual, but trust others might have different opinions on this one. What's for sure is that they are more sportive than comparable black models.
@@Bonky-wonky Very true, but well I guess it is what it is. Overall I feel like dresscodes in most industries now get more sportive over time, perhaps this will also reach consulting sometime. And then: dark brown shoes with navy blue suits are definitely the first thing I will wear in the office :P
I found it funny that you say you don't own a Stresemann - You had just shown your cutaway, though. The Stresemann is called Stresemann because Gustav Stresemann was annoyed by the time he spent changing from parliamentary cutaway to day suit all the time, so he just changed jackets from cutaway to day jacket and kept the rest. So by taking your cutaway outfit shown and instead of the jacket wear a regular black jacket, you in fact do own a Stresemann ;) Other than that I really don't get why business dresscodes call for the most boring and dull outfits possible, thus making people hate having to wear this. I for my part absolutely love formal dress, I love ties and I basically wear some sort of tie all the time, very much inspired by the roaring twenties, thus playful and colourful - and I get complimented all the time for it by people in grey suits. (I'm also a consultant, by the way. The client is always confused when they tell me "We don't have a dresscode, you can wear whatever you want" and I reply "I do." :D)
Hi Dave, thanks for sharing, good point have just never worn that combination :) Trust that some more playful combinations are absolutely fine, just requires more stylistic command to make it look good. Best! Heinrich
Hi Maulana, not sure I 100% understand the comment. Of course everyone can decide for him / herself how to dress and express identity, though as with many other things in life, some behaviors are just more socially accepted than others. Best, Heinrich
Would you care to explain how you draw the conclusion that "working class" habitus is the reason why "working class" people are less likely to break into MBB consulting? Or did I misunderstand you?
Great video. I am an aviation consultant and I am always very conscientious about what I wear when consulting. I generally stick to a suit. I do however think brown shoes with dark navy suit go well. I’m not sure I could wear black shoes with a dark Blue suit! I think there should be a law about this 🤣. Thanks for the excellent content
Can see how brown shoes can look good in the right situation. Definitely nothing wrong with navy suit and black shoes though :) Thanks for watching! Best, Heinrich
@@FirmLearning Another option is slate grey suits with brown shoes . steel grey suits with grey shoes. dark navy suit with olive green shoes - sharp and edgy - only somebody with confidence can carry it. I love to be a men's dress consultant !
I think brown shoes on navy suit looks amazing. Wearing black on navy is too similar a color but yet not the same, and to many people, myself included, looks off. I do, however, like wearing brown shoes with black pants. It's a more informal attire, but you will look like a bad boy.
Thank you for this video, Heinrich! I agree to all of your points except the pocket square. I always wear a simple white one and I think it’s a good way to set myself visually apart especially without wearing a tie :)
So if i go with ur recommendations, i could wear a navy suit, light blue shirt, and black oxfords with a black belt. But from what i have heard and have been told all my life was: Navy and Black dont go together :/
Hi Bart, have never heard about this rule, frankly do not think this is valid. Believe a dark blue suit goes very well together with black shoes. If you google it, you also find lots of very dapper looking outfit inspiration with that combination. Best, H
Great video. Basically the style is conservative and modest. We wear suits to work too, RE management, but a bit less conservative with the colors of the shirts. Thank you for the video
Thanks a lot for the video Heinrich really interesting. A couple of small points. In case you wear any metals they should match ( watch, buckle of the belt and cufflinks ). Additionally ( it depends of the suit ) you may want to wear suspenders instead of belts. Last really marginal point is the colour of the waistcoat of your morning coat ( blue if I recall correctly from the video). In theory it should be light grey, cream or such colours. 😊
Hi Paul, m.W. kann man double cuffs auch sagen (Doppelmanschette). Mag aber sein dass ich bei den englischen Begriffen nicht ganz richtig liege :) LG, Heinrich
I would say, it depends on the watch. I would agree to Heinrich's advice to avoid very recognizable expensive watches (like the Rolex Submariner, Datejust, Patek Philipe Nautilus, Audemars Piguet Royal Oak) One glance and most fashion-savy people will directly know what you're wearing. Watch fans might like it and it could be an opener for a great conversation, other people might see it more critically though. This is a risk that you might not want to take. My tip: If you want to have an expensive watch to wear at work, choose one that is not quite as recognizable (e.g. Rolex Explorer, Rolex Oyster Perpetual, Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra, also most dress watches like a Lange und Söhne work fine) A real watch enthusiast will recognize it and start a conversation, but most other people won't. So you have the advantages of a nice watch from a famous brand without the risk of people judging you for it.
@@FirmLearning now Iam on vp Level and Iam wearing my navitimer. But when I was younger I did not wear a watch, bc it did not fit with the position and salary in my opinion.
Hi Henry! Personally I also very much like double breasted suits and believe they look great. It would still be very unusual to wear this in consulting as a junior ;) Best, H
Sorry ich mags nicht negatives Feedback auf YT zu schreiben und ich find deinen Kanal sonst wirklich gut aber (schlechteste Einleitung ever) das ganze Bekleidungsthema besonders bei Beratungsfirmen finde ich recht überholt und es gibt glaube ich wichtigere Themen im Bezug wie und warum man dort arbeiten möchte als was man dort hin anziehen sollte. Lieber im Produkt over-delivern als ne schöne Verpackung zu haben. ;) hoffe das waren genug schlechte Anglizismen damit man es versteht :)
An Oxford shoe could have brogues as well. Oxford only describes the type of shoe - not the ornament (brogueing). Kings Men got that extremely wrong. ANd I would argue, that you are always better dressed with brown shoes. Black shoes are just boring - even in consulting.
haben viele / nicht per se schlecht. finde ich persönlich aber immer etwas unnötig dick aufgetragen, insb. wenn dann das hemd nichtmal wirklich hochwertig ist.
Hi Heinrich, I usually agree with nearly a 100% of your content, however I think this video is quite misleading. While there is a lot of correct information of high value, I would like to point out that the business world has changed a lot in the last 10 years. These changes are driven by younger decision makers and are even amplified through the corona crisis. You gave "the gentleman's guide" but lets give some differentiation here: - if you are doing projects in the media industry you might wear sneakers on the project - by now we see bolder choices both in consulting (from the analyst to the partner) and on the client side - shirts with coloured buttons, no jacket, no tie, etc etc I think your guide is very informative but to anybody who is watching this, I just want to point out that if your client is not in financial services there is a good chance that all of these rules are just not as important anymore as they used to be. Dont stress!
Hi Lars! Some more business casual style outfits might definitely be OK if the whole client organization (including C-Level / Senior Mgmt which you will usually take as reference) is not wearing a suit to the office. Trust outside of Tech and certain other other companies, most senior leaders will still wear suits though (this is definitely true for majority of German DAX 40 environment). However there will for sure also be regional differences, e.g. if you work in the Bay area, outfits will surely be much more casual. Would still claim that if you wear an outfit as described, no-one will consider you wrongly dressed. You can always take off your suit jacket for a more casual look. After the first week, you can always reassess with the team whether a more casual look is fine. Best! H
@@FirmLearning ja, du hast es (meines Wissens) korrekt dargestellt. Ist nur ein Zitat aus Kingsman, wo es als Ehrensache gilt, Oxfords zu bevorzugen. Aber das nur am Rande ...
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Please can you also do one for women to show examples :) thank you
hi, I love your video. Please do one for Women consultants as well as I noticed not many qualified people talked about it
Very nice video. Bonus tip: long socks. Never wear short socks, as they could revel bare skin, especially when you are assuming certain positions sitting. The color: the "ton sur ton" solution is the most classic and involves the choice of a sock that recalls the chromatic tones of the trousers or shoes. Brown socks with brown shoes or pants; black socks on black shoes or pants, and so on. The color tone should be a little bit lighter or darker so that it is noticeable, but with a pleasant chromatic transition. Last but not least: never, in any situation, wear white socks. They are bad.
Fully agree, especially the point on wearing long socks. Legs should not be visible at all times ;) thanks for watching Fulvio! Best, Heinrich
I laughed out loud reading this one. It’s so true. Even the best shoes and best suit will be ruined by a pair of hairy legs.
One minor correction: white socks are allowed on vintage sneakers. ;-)
@@bartvrenegoor On vintage sneakers, yes… so white socks are still never appropriate for consulting (or “professional” businesses).
Thank you for this video! As a soon-to-be first generation professional, figuring out how to dress causes me much anxiety, but I’m very eager to learn!
Hi James, hope there is some inspiration in the video. Thanks for watching! Best, Heinrich
@@FirmLearning Can you recommend brands or shops? Might be worth a video as well - where and what to buy.
Also a thing to keep in mind. Dress how the client dresses in their organization. If the client doesn't wear suits don't come overdressed in a suit.
Hi Kevin, yes in principle agree! In most organizations, it will be OK to dress up slightly more as a consultant compared to a regular employee though, you will usually adjust to the dresscode of the C-level / senior management (which in most organizations means a suit without tie nowadays). Best! Heinrich
@@FirmLearning Absolutely regarding c-suite, steering committee, etc. Just always important to know the culture before going into any client. But none-the-less love your insight and tips!
Most MECE video, always great job Heinrich!
Please, can we have a female wardrobe video ?
Love your videos
Hi, frankly not sure I would be qualified to make a good video on this by myself, but might pair with a female consultant in the future :) Best, Heinrich
There are a lot of videos out there on how to dress as a male consultant, but rather few on how to dress as a female consultant. So if you find the time and a female consultant to support you on the topic, a video would be great
Agree, that would be super helpful! :)
I didn't even know I needed this video. Nice one!
Great to hear you enjoyed it - thanks for watching Diogo! Best, Heinrich
This is a really nice summary about how to present yourself when you very little about appropriate business attire.
Dear Heinrich, it would be great to see a similar video for women, maybe as a cooperation with a female youtuber. As there aren't such set rules for us I find it even harder to pick the right wardrobe.
Very much needed content
Happy to hear that Abdullah - thank you for watching! Best, Heinrich
Would love to know more on women clothing in consulting (with brands)
Thanks Ainash! Best, Heinrich
I found that two navy blue suits and one charcoal suit with two white and two light blue shirts with spread collars worked really well for me for my most recent big 4 vacationer placement. Charles Tyrwhitt was amazing as well because you get a student discount.
I find that 2 suits (navy, charcoal) is enough, but I buy 2 pairs of trousers with each suit. Agree Charles Tyrwhitt shirts are the best.
@@duppa Where I live gets pretty hot so I found a three suit rotation worked well
Thanks for sharing your tips - appreciate you watching! Best, Heinrich
Great video Heinrich! I would add that the FIT of a suit or shirt is maybe the most important thing. I often see people wearing expensive brands, but one or two sizes too large which makes them look odd. You could better buy a few 50€ shirts that perfectly follow the contours of your body than a 300€ shirt with way too much loose fabric ;)
Fit, fabric, function, in that order.
Very interested in female style please :) In addition, tips on how to manage your calendar for meetings. Thank you very much, love your content. Liked and subscribed.
I love the way you say Conzultant
I was really looking forward to this video.
Thank you Luis! How you found some value in it. Best! Heinrich
If i wore a light pink shirt (simple plain) , with dark blue suits and black tie, is that decent enough, I like to be slightly different from the rest but also follow the general rules.
You content is really awesome and interesting, keep up the good work, I am a college student that is aiming to go HBS for my MBA, your videos definitely gives me a guide on what to do and learn, thanks for the generous content that you share to aspiring students! Keep up the good work Heinrich!
Hi Hans, thanks for your comment! Would not recommend wearing a light pink shirt, this would be very unusual to say the least. Stick with light blues and whites :) Best, Heinrich
@@FirmLearning ok I am ok with that too, but what should I do if I want to look slightly different with my own personality?
I love this video but in my opinion we can keep formality with a broader set of 'happier' colors :)
Hi Daniel, indeed trust other colors will be OK as will with the right combination, but this will be more challenging to pull off in a good way :) Just requires a bit more stylstic command. Best, H
Cool video. Out of curiosity, which watch are you wearing (looks a bit like datejust 1601 or smth)?
It's a Date.. do not know the exact reference (old family piece), but the one you are mentioning definitely looks similar :)
Great Video, as always! However, there are some small points that I want to adress:
1. Black suits: You correctly pointed out that you should never wear a black suit to a business occasion, but I would go one step further and say that you can only ever wear a black suit to a funeral. For formal occasions, either a tuxedo will be required, which you can rent if you do nor own one, or you will be better off with a dark navy suit than with a black suit. Black suits give the impression that you know nothing about correct clothing IMHO.
2. Button-down shirts: Some more conservative people(at least in Europe) would consider button down shirts inappropriate for any business occasion.
3. Shoes: Your points were all correct, but some additional details: The Oxford shoe is characterized by the eyelets (the parts where the shoelaces ho through)being sown to the main part of the shoe on the bottom, i.e. you cannot reach under the lacing from the bottom with your fingers. This is a small detail but people will notice. Also an Oxford shoe can be a Brogue at the same time, but as you said correctly, brogues are less formal. Many people also tend to underestimate the importance of good quality shoes: You sometimes walk a lot during a business day and want your feet to be in a great condition.
So these are just my small remarks - Heinrich, thank you for your amazing video, I am looking forward to the next one!
This does not apply in Japanese culture, most people wear black suit in business occasion.
hi Oliver, about your point of button down shirt, for a woman what should she wear as a consultant then ?
Great video. Can you make video about bag to use for consulting for men？
Yes might do one in the future - thanks! Best, Heinrich
Great video. Can you share some advice of which brands are preferred in consulting? (related to suits and shirts)
Great video. A tip for an other topic is what kind of fragrance you can wear. Has also an impact on your client. Not too overpowering though 😉. Thanks
What about dark blue suits with a subtle, checked pattern ?
Thank you for the video. I am not a first generation academic, but I am a first generation corporate/business-world participant. So these types of situations have been often appearing for me - what to wear, how to wear, etc., since these are not things that are common on my surroundings.
Unique & different video yet super insightful. Great video, and definitely welcoming much more videos of this nature!
Thanks for this video!! One question remains though -- what about those Patagonia vests?
Great Video! What about Brands? Any brands that are over the top like with the watches or too cheap? Is a Zara suit seen as bad even when the style is the right one?
Hi, in principle there is no focus on brands, you should avoid very visible luxurious brands and rather focus on quality. Would advise against Zara suits as they are often from cheap materials (lots of polyester etc.) Best move is to have very high quality things (potentially also from expensive brands) but the brands are not very visible ;) Best, H
@@FirmLearning Appreciate you! Thanks a lot.
While ties are becoming less common. It would be nice to know what kind of knots are "acceptable." I often choose unusual ones like the Van Wijk or trinity.
Hi, to be honest needed to google the knots you were referring to. Have frankly never seen anyone wear them, believe they do look a little bit funky ;) On the other hand, you could make something like this your "trademark".. difficult to give hard right vs. wrong advice on this. Best! Heinrich
From a British standpoint: Anything that draws attention away from your face is a no go. The objective of a suit is to blend in so much that it cannot be remembered for anything except fitting well. Your face and personality should be your memorable traits.
From what I've gathered, Italians think differently though.
@@kevinlind4640 Sounds like the Japanese idea of the uniform as well. Don't stand out. Thanks for your advice.
Nice one. You should do something on fragrances. Appropriate and inappropriate. Also maybe frangrances that can potentially set moods etc...
Not sure I am the biggest expert on this topic.. just would not pick something too heavy and noticeable, more subtle should be the way :) Thanks for watching! Best, Heinrich
Hi Heinrich, thank you for this video! Some great insights in there. I’ve got a question for you, in terms of the trousers you wear (in case you’re not wearing a suit but just a shirt instead) what colour recommendations would you suggest? Thank you!
Hi Miguel, what always works well are Chino-type trousers. Dark blue always works, beige is great as well (except in the winter). Best, Heinrich
@@FirmLearning why not in the winter?
Great video! There is definately a female version needed.
Thanks for the video, Heinrich! Since you have worked at Accenture, what are your thoughts on the dress code on Accenture projects? Are they similar to the MBB? Thank you!
As someone who follows your wife’s youtube channel as well, would prefer if she makes the “female” version of this video 🤩
Green is a very underrated colour in menswear.
Hi Heinrich, thank you for the tips! Question about the colour of the suit - are lighter grey/blue suits acceptable? Or would they also be considered too casual?
Hi Igor, lighter suits are definitely considered more casual, especially light blue. Depends a bit on the exact shade, but in general would not advise to wear a light blue suit / looks a bit like a summer and vacation outfit :) Best, Heinrich
Really useful vid - thank you! 🙂
What about tweed blazers and trousers as opposed to suits?
Hi Krish, can be OK with the right combination, but do require some good stylistic command to combine them well. Best! Heinrich
What are your thoughts on attire during team social outings, networking events, dinners, and the like?
Typical "smart casual" should do in most of the cases! Best, H
Awesome content! I think we have similar tastes. The guidelines are helpful to reign in my decision making while shopping. It makes me want to upgrade my wardrobe right this second!
I appreciate that you don't plug products in your content, but can you - or any of the viewers - recommend any favorite brands?
What brand are those oxfords that you are wearing ?
Hi Juan, the one that I was showing are from Ed Meier. Another (slightly more affordable) brand that I like to wear as "everyday beater" are the shoes from Floris van Bommel. Best! Heinrich
Great, I like your channel... greetings from Perú.
Please make a video on women's clothing in consulting! Thank you
Good video Heinrich, thank you!
For me, brown shoes with dark grey suit it's oh lala
I absolutely Love your watch. Help me with the brand and model please.
Great work 🙏 thanks so much
Thank you for watching Vipul, appreciate it! Best, Heinrich
Great video. I agree with the brown shoes, I think it is getting more common to see them also in offices. But in general the old rule oftentimes still holds true: No brown in town!
That sentence could be badly interpreted.
Personally I also do only rarely wear brown shoes for business purposes / find them quite casual, but trust others might have different opinions on this one. What's for sure is that they are more sportive than comparable black models.
Quite a shame as a brown shoe would look great under a navy blue suit.
@@Bonky-wonky Very true, but well I guess it is what it is. Overall I feel like dresscodes in most industries now get more sportive over time, perhaps this will also reach consulting sometime. And then: dark brown shoes with navy blue suits are definitely the first thing I will wear in the office :P
Really nice vidéo !
I just lack one thing: Shoes x)
Alwats wearing brown but not such classy shoes :p
Female style guide as well please :)
Indeed seems like there is demand for such a video, thanks for your comment! Best, H
What about two-tone watches?
Depends on the specific model ;) in principle nothing wrong with two toned
Real Consultant, Real Style
I found it funny that you say you don't own a Stresemann - You had just shown your cutaway, though. The Stresemann is called Stresemann because Gustav Stresemann was annoyed by the time he spent changing from parliamentary cutaway to day suit all the time, so he just changed jackets from cutaway to day jacket and kept the rest. So by taking your cutaway outfit shown and instead of the jacket wear a regular black jacket, you in fact do own a Stresemann ;)
Other than that I really don't get why business dresscodes call for the most boring and dull outfits possible, thus making people hate having to wear this. I for my part absolutely love formal dress, I love ties and I basically wear some sort of tie all the time, very much inspired by the roaring twenties, thus playful and colourful - and I get complimented all the time for it by people in grey suits. (I'm also a consultant, by the way. The client is always confused when they tell me "We don't have a dresscode, you can wear whatever you want" and I reply "I do." :D)
Hi Dave, thanks for sharing, good point have just never worn that combination :) Trust that some more playful combinations are absolutely fine, just requires more stylistic command to make it look good. Best! Heinrich
Thanks. Fully echo your thoughts
Thanks for watching Krishna! Best, Heinrich
Love this, would love to see one for women pleasee:)
Just want to add that the shirt cuff be partially visible when you wear a coat.
Yes agree! Best, H
How about self-expression and/or identity, I think I heard Mckinsey support marginalized groups? Wdyt? Thanks.
Hi Maulana, not sure I 100% understand the comment. Of course everyone can decide for him / herself how to dress and express identity, though as with many other things in life, some behaviors are just more socially accepted than others. Best, Heinrich
Tuck the shirt to the pants? also: are shirts with stand-up collars accepted? thx for the video.
Hi! Yes, tuck the shirt, and no, stand-up collars definitely not recommended ;) (they are VERY sportive) - Best! Heinrich
Would you care to explain how you draw the conclusion that "working class" habitus is the reason why "working class" people are less likely to break into MBB consulting?
Or did I misunderstand you?
I can see your Italian heritage in your good taste for dressing
Great video. I am an aviation consultant and I am always very conscientious about what I wear when consulting. I generally stick to a suit. I do however think brown shoes with dark navy suit go well. I’m not sure I could wear black shoes with a dark
Blue suit! I think there should be a law about this 🤣. Thanks for the excellent content
Can see how brown shoes can look good in the right situation. Definitely nothing wrong with navy suit and black shoes though :) Thanks for watching! Best, Heinrich
@@FirmLearning Another option is slate grey suits with brown shoes . steel grey suits with grey shoes. dark navy suit with olive green shoes - sharp and edgy - only somebody with confidence can carry it. I love to be a men's dress consultant !
I think brown shoes on navy suit looks amazing. Wearing black on navy is too similar a color but yet not the same, and to many people, myself included, looks off.
I do, however, like wearing brown shoes with black pants. It's a more informal attire, but you will look like a bad boy.
Thank you for this video, Heinrich! I agree to all of your points except the pocket square. I always wear a simple white one and I think it’s a good way to set myself visually apart especially without wearing a tie :)
I believe a pocket square, especially a white one with a white shirt, with the presidential fold looks amazing and adequate.
So if i go with ur recommendations, i could wear a navy suit, light blue shirt, and black oxfords with a black belt. But from what i have heard and have been told all my life was: Navy and Black dont go together :/
Hi Bart, have never heard about this rule, frankly do not think this is valid. Believe a dark blue suit goes very well together with black shoes. If you google it, you also find lots of very dapper looking outfit inspiration with that combination. Best, H
@@FirmLearning Thanks for your answer Heinrich!
Great video.
Basically the style is conservative and modest.
We wear suits to work too, RE management, but a bit less conservative with the colors of the shirts.
Thank you for the video
Hi Lior, yes guess that is a good summary :) Thanks for watching! Best, Heinrich
Gracias amigo!
As much as I appreciate the Pierre Bordieu mention, I have to slightly rebell against using him as some sort of business coach.
James Bond auditions are down the corridor :-))
;) Thanks for your comment Alistair! Best, H
Yes please give us a female version of this video 🙃
Awesome video! So helpful!
Thank you!
Thanks a lot for the video Heinrich really interesting. A couple of small points. In case you wear any metals they should match ( watch, buckle of the belt and cufflinks ).
Additionally ( it depends of the suit ) you may want to wear suspenders instead of belts.
Last really marginal point is the colour of the waistcoat of your morning coat ( blue if I recall correctly from the video). In theory it should be light grey, cream or such colours. 😊
Ist das richtige Wort nicht French Cuffs? Habe Double-Cuffs noch nie gehört :)
Hi Paul, m.W. kann man double cuffs auch sagen (Doppelmanschette). Mag aber sein dass ich bei den englischen Begriffen nicht ganz richtig liege :) LG, Heinrich
I was / am struggling with watches. Can I wear my expensive watches?
Hi Moritz, talking about this in the end of the video (in accessories section) ;)
I would say, it depends on the watch. I would agree to Heinrich's advice to avoid very recognizable expensive watches (like the Rolex Submariner, Datejust, Patek Philipe Nautilus, Audemars Piguet Royal Oak) One glance and most fashion-savy people will directly know what you're wearing. Watch fans might like it and it could be an opener for a great conversation, other people might see it more critically though. This is a risk that you might not want to take. My tip: If you want to have an expensive watch to wear at work, choose one that is not quite as recognizable (e.g. Rolex Explorer, Rolex Oyster Perpetual, Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra, also most dress watches like a Lange und Söhne work fine) A real watch enthusiast will recognize it and start a conversation, but most other people won't. So you have the advantages of a nice watch from a famous brand without the risk of people judging you for it.
@@FirmLearning now Iam on vp Level and Iam wearing my navitimer. But when I was younger I did not wear a watch, bc it did not fit with the position and salary in my opinion.
@@PBL-50 you forgot the nicest of all. Breitling navitimer 😃
@@moritzvonlicht2322 Also a great watch, I agree! Honestly, I don't see any problem in wearing a Navitimer.
For shirts, the golden rule is no pocket. At my old workplace, for people wearing them, they used to be pinned to the ground and have them ripped off.
I personally love dressing up, but whats your opinion on double breasted suits?
Hi Henry! Personally I also very much like double breasted suits and believe they look great. It would still be very unusual to wear this in consulting as a junior ;) Best, H
Did you learn about Bordieau at McKinsey?
No ;) Have a Philosophy undergrad
I'm just here to listen to Heinrich's voice
Sorry ich mags nicht negatives Feedback auf YT zu schreiben und ich find deinen Kanal sonst wirklich gut aber (schlechteste Einleitung ever) das ganze Bekleidungsthema besonders bei Beratungsfirmen finde ich recht überholt und es gibt glaube ich wichtigere Themen im Bezug wie und warum man dort arbeiten möchte als was man dort hin anziehen sollte. Lieber im Produkt over-delivern als ne schöne Verpackung zu haben. ;) hoffe das waren genug schlechte Anglizismen damit man es versteht :)
An Oxford shoe could have brogues as well. Oxford only describes the type of shoe - not the ornament (brogueing). Kings Men got that extremely wrong. ANd I would argue, that you are always better dressed with brown shoes. Black shoes are just boring - even in consulting.
Female dress codes pls
I only want to dress like this when I see my mother so she doesnt complain abou my looks haha
;) Thanks for watching! Best, H
Do women’s, plz!!
Alright :) Now just need a female consultant who wants to help me out.. Best, H
Great video! You should approach Kajol Phadnis for collaboration, she’s an active TH-camr / current Deloitte Consultant!
Lol you can understand why people like Rolex, makes sense as you are wearing one
Initialen im Shirt? Ja/nein?
haben viele / nicht per se schlecht. finde ich persönlich aber immer etwas unnötig dick aufgetragen, insb. wenn dann das hemd nichtmal wirklich hochwertig ist.
Hi Heinrich,
I usually agree with nearly a 100% of your content, however I think this video is quite misleading.
While there is a lot of correct information of high value, I would like to point out that the business world has changed a lot in the last 10 years. These changes are driven by younger decision makers and are even amplified through the corona crisis.
You gave "the gentleman's guide" but lets give some differentiation here:
- if you are doing projects in the media industry you might wear sneakers on the project
- by now we see bolder choices both in consulting (from the analyst to the partner) and on the client side - shirts with coloured buttons, no jacket, no tie, etc etc
I think your guide is very informative but to anybody who is watching this, I just want to point out that if your client is not in financial services there is a good chance that all of these rules are just not as important anymore as they used to be.
Dont stress!
Hi Lars! Some more business casual style outfits might definitely be OK if the whole client organization (including C-Level / Senior Mgmt which you will usually take as reference) is not wearing a suit to the office. Trust outside of Tech and certain other other companies, most senior leaders will still wear suits though (this is definitely true for majority of German DAX 40 environment). However there will for sure also be regional differences, e.g. if you work in the Bay area, outfits will surely be much more casual.
Would still claim that if you wear an outfit as described, no-one will consider you wrongly dressed. You can always take off your suit jacket for a more casual look. After the first week, you can always reassess with the team whether a more casual look is fine.
Best! H
Just let someone tell me for a man,when to button on and button off when wearing a formal suit ( coat or jacket )
You forgot your Patagonia Vest XDDD
Also when are we gonna do meme review?
i wear a t-shirt and jeans tbh, 'cos i can
Shoes - never wear brown to town...
In principle, prefer black shoes as well :) Best, H
#FirmStyling
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Whats wrong with a Rolex?
Hi Patrick, nothing wrong with a Rolex! Would just be a bit careful wearing it as a junior in front of clients. Best, Heinrich
Oxfords, nicht Budapester ... ;-)
Budapester gehören eher zu den Brogues oder? Aber bin da jetzt tatsächlich auch nicht der allergrößte Kenner ;)
@@FirmLearning ja, du hast es (meines Wissens) korrekt dargestellt. Ist nur ein Zitat aus Kingsman, wo es als Ehrensache gilt, Oxfords zu bevorzugen. Aber das nur am Rande ...
Great. Now do meme review with me
So you mean no matching Ferragamo shoes and belt??? Blasphemy!
Maybe learn proper pronunciation first before...
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Awesome video. Great job 👍🏼